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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to dorky Out. My name is Sonya Mansfield and

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<v Speaker 1>Strap God wants you on the floor. Joining me is

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<v Speaker 1>my podcasting sister from another mister and the co host

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<v Speaker 1>of Dorkying Out, Margot d Hello, my.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, make it a good one. Strap Oh, Strap oh Strap,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian cutie pie.

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<v Speaker 1>They is such a cutie pie. They all are, they

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<v Speaker 1>all are. We are dorkying out about nineteen eighty six's Hoosiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. It stars Gene Hackman and Rip Rip we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay our respects and Dennis Hopper so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>also Rip all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right pay and one of the cast members one of

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<v Speaker 2>the boys I'll tell you about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess i'll just say the other cast too, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara Hershey, whom I love so happy day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's great and she's so good in this part.

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<v Speaker 1>It's directed by David Anspaw and Ansbach Ansbach and written

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<v Speaker 1>by Angelo Pizzo. Sure sure it's not pizza, It's Pizzo Pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see Who'siers in the theater?

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<v Speaker 2>No? My story is I saw it on a flight

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<v Speaker 2>from SF to Hawaii and it's a great plane watch

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<v Speaker 2>by the way like you could see that. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is back when you know, they had the screens on

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, like you watched that, you had nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I saw Hills, right, So we've so.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it and people by the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>like at the last shot, you know, people burst into

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<v Speaker 2>applause on the plane, which I've never never happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've like loved this movie ever since. I was

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<v Speaker 2>completely I feel like they screwed up the marketing with

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<v Speaker 2>this movie, yeah, because they released it November of eighty six,

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<v Speaker 2>but they opened it because I watched I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you watched the Cisco At Ebert review.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I read Ebert's review, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Ciskel thought it was just man because he was wrong

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wrong pretty often. I tend to be more

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<v Speaker 1>more of an Ebert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm more aligned with Ebert, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a wrong sometimes too, but oh yeah, he likes

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<v Speaker 1>Speed too famously like Speed too.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, what was I saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forget marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they released it, sorry, thank you? So Ebert said

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<v Speaker 2>they released it in November of eighty five or eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>They released it only in Indiana, and then they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to wait till after January to release it nationwide.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to New York, LA, and then release the nationwide,

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<v Speaker 2>which is stupid. This would be a perfect move to

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<v Speaker 2>see at Christmas time, Like, yeah, it's for families.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a super crowd pleaser. I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what they had.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gene Hackman also apparently didn't know what he had

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<v Speaker 1>on this movie, and he was like kind of rude

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<v Speaker 1>to the director.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he was a pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a real grouch on the set, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he ever, like really really apologized for like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the way he acted on the set. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on, it's such a good movie and he is

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<v Speaker 1>so good in it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot that's taken out, so I've I guess

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<v Speaker 2>normally we don't go into the plot and everything will

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of jump round, I guess. But yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>movie the original cut was three hours, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>told it's got to be under two. So there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the relationship between Gene Hackman and Barbara

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<v Speaker 2>Hershey and a couple of the other boys that the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that about their characters that didn't make it. And

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently that Hackman was so unhappy filling this movie

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<v Speaker 2>like only thirty nine days. And it's like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you bitching about, dude? But anyway, because he's from Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just it's okay, dude, it's thirty nine days.

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<v Speaker 1>You could do anything for thirty nine days.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to live in my life, dude. It's but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>they needed him to come back to do some dubbing

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<v Speaker 2>in La and he said, well, you have to send

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<v Speaker 2>me a rough cut first. I need to see it

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<v Speaker 2>because he's convinced it was garbage. And then he came

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<v Speaker 2>the next day to record and he went wrent up

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<v Speaker 2>to the director and said, how the fuck did you

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<v Speaker 2>make that happen? Because he had no idea how good

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I mean maybe it wasn't on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see some of the scenes they

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<v Speaker 1>cut out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on YouTube, so go, yeah, definitely check it out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I've been doing for like an hour now.

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<v Speaker 1>Deleted scenes. And I would love documentaries the extra stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with him and Barbara Hershey because I guess. The relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is really really sweet and really well done in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have loved maybe like one more scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they needed a couple more scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, But I still really really liked this movie

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw it absolutely. I saw it in the

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<v Speaker 1>theater when it first came out. I saw your mom, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely with my mom. And then I saw it like

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<v Speaker 1>one more time maybe on TV, you know, TBS or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was definitely like a crowd pleaser, and I

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<v Speaker 1>liked it watching it again. Now the movie hits me

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way. And we talked about this off

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<v Speaker 1>mic right before we hit record, was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the barber Hershey character is like our age now, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we were relate to the teenagers then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, and now we relate to the adults. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I've seen more, I've learned more. And

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of these like armchair coaches, yes, that parents

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<v Speaker 1>can be We saw it and we just did remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans a couple of weeks ago. It's also that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. But you can, like I could go

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<v Speaker 1>to a softball game right now and watch my niece play,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are parents there that think they know better.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, Yeah, hockey dad is a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey dad, soccer moms or you know, are a thing

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<v Speaker 1>where people, especially soccer for so strange reason, like parents

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<v Speaker 1>lose their shit. Yeah, like get into brawls with people

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<v Speaker 1>over that. So some of the things that are going

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<v Speaker 1>on in this movie, yeah, ring true to me in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that at the time I was like, dude, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like high school sports. People don't care that much, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>they do they super gar?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. And I've been through Indiana. I had friends

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<v Speaker 2>that got married in Chicago when you and I hung

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<v Speaker 2>out in Chicago. Yes, I remember, And we drove through

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana to go up there. And it is different in

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana than it is in Illinois. It's got its own

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<v Speaker 2>kind of flava. But I was saying to you off

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<v Speaker 2>the air, just for really wait, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>this time, I totally was paying attention to Barber. Her

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<v Speaker 2>she's character because she's more my age, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>get it, girl, He's cute, he's been places. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>places too, like she traveled outside, so she has like

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<v Speaker 2>a taste of what it's like not there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's cute, he's from out of town. Come on, he's tall, tall,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like Gene Hackman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's funny, but he's not grouchy. He's fun Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But these I think, you know, I live in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>You live in Brooklyn, Like it's easy to forget that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other towns, cities, whole other states, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>don't have their own Like they don't have national their

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<v Speaker 1>own team, or their own.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball team, right right, right, yeah right, And so they

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<v Speaker 1>do soup that these are their opportunities to like see

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<v Speaker 1>live sports, and of course they care. It's like, you know, gee, son,

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<v Speaker 1>you look outside your bubble and you realize that, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's why people super care. And for some people it's

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<v Speaker 1>their ticket out of their town too. If they do that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they could get a scholarship and you know, go like

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<v Speaker 1>actually leave this tiny little And when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a kid, I couldn't understand that. Really, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to college, what's the big deal. As an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's your opportunity, Like, yes, get the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>out of here, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's there's just all these The sports aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie is very well done, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason why sports writers are always like. Hoosiers is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best basketball movies, and it's it's held in

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<v Speaker 1>very high regard. But there's all these different smaller things

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie that I just never picked up on before.

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<v Speaker 1>One is the relationship between between Gene Hackman and Barbara Hershey.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she is very like standoffish with him because and

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<v Speaker 1>she says, I've seen people like you before, right, she

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they exchange words, and she asks him a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of questions and he gets you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Much like Zarena and Anthony and Bellow Tick down Under

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<v Speaker 2>when he showed up and she started interviewing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yes, yeah, Like she's like, you know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any experience teaching? And he's like, bitch, I already

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<v Speaker 1>have a job. But right, he doesn't say it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, so they don't they don't really get

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<v Speaker 1>off on the right foot. And but there's also how

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<v Speaker 1>he interacts with the Dennis Hopper character is like really

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<v Speaker 1>really sweet and the way it's done is very subtle

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<v Speaker 1>and not how you would see this in another movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Dennis Hopper is playing the father of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the players and he's an alcoholic. He has a substance

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<v Speaker 1>of his problem. And you know, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was this movie set in the fifties. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the town drunk basically, right, Like, you know, he shows

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<v Speaker 1>up and everyone's like, oh, here comes you know. His

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<v Speaker 1>nickname is Shooter, Like here comes Shooter, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's the town drunk. But like he does know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about basketball and how Gene Hackman like approaches him

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<v Speaker 1>and and he's very gentle about like, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to like be my assistant coach, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to clean up and yeah, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts with like you need to shave and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to wear suit.

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<v Speaker 2>He's okay with projects, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, and you need to not drink. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh that party, you know, And he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>thinks about it. And but he the way he approaches

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<v Speaker 1>it is like not Judgie at all. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do this, here's what I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to do. But if you can't do those things,

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<v Speaker 1>peace be with you, basically, right, you know. And he

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<v Speaker 1>he he's not shitty about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, No, he's very understanding. Yeah, and uh and and

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Hopper has a son that's on the team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that adds another layer of like, okay, because dad's

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck up. He's always he's always he's an alcoholic,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always drunk, and he lives in the shack. He's

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<v Speaker 2>so but that's his dad at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 2>And you also know what happens. Yes, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is not no, but it's it's just such

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I texted you when I was watching it, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I we'll just we'll go through it, like he

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<v Speaker 1>it's nineteen fifty one. It's you know, a little town

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<v Speaker 1>And like Gene Hackman has been through some shit. We

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<v Speaker 2>It or microfiche at the library.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no microfiche.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just showed up, and like Barbara her, she

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<v Speaker 2>Or he's rebuilding his life.

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<v Speaker 1>this movie? And I looked it up. Kid has four lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's like a big presence in the field

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<v Speaker 1>He does a really really good job. The actor is

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<v Speaker 1>marn Maris Valinous. I think, I don't know, and he

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<v Speaker 1>cute and really cute. But he has a very strong presence.

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<v Speaker 1>He has like four lines in the movie. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is very good at basketball. They show him shooting

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<v Speaker 1>are dead. I think, yeah, And she's like, hey, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>basketball isn't your way out of town. You should try

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<v Speaker 1>to get into a good college with academics. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pushing him in a different nudging him. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>Direction, because we should be fair to her. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the odds are astronomical. Yes, you have to have some

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<v Speaker 2>respect for professional ballplayers, whatever the sport is, because they

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<v Speaker 2>are overcoming a lot of odds. Yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>And they're taking a chance like you're gambling, like really,

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<v Speaker 1>because the chances of making getting a college scholarship or

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<v Speaker 1>that's not great odds. The idea that you would play

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<v Speaker 2>Worse, more remote, I mean, just and then.

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<v Speaker 1>To be successful at it, like your unicorn, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so she is, she's smart. She's trying to push because

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<v Speaker 1>her academics and was able to you know, get out

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<v Speaker 1>and see other things. She came back because her father

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<v Speaker 1>died and her mother was sick, and her mother is great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh. I love the scene where the mom runs

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<v Speaker 1>into Gene Hackman and invites him over for dinner, like

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out that she just super loves basketball because.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, she's a basketball freak, yes, And I really like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So he chats with the principal. The principle is like

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<v Speaker 1>his old friend, and there is this vague like your

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<v Speaker 1>slate is clean here, and again we don't know like

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<v Speaker 1>what he's they did, right, And he goes to like

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<v Speaker 1>a meet and greet that's at a like barber shop

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and it's all men, of course, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all these dads and other men who just live in

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<v Speaker 1>basketball is played there, and very strong opinions about making

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy rejoin the team. And yeah, they just want an

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<v Speaker 1>armchair coach. Basically, they're very obnoxious about it, to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the truth. And one of them is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>from a major league. Oh god, right to me, he's

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<v Speaker 1>always that like grouchy old picture that is so shitty

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<v Speaker 1>to Charlie Sheen and major league.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a character at a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff, and he's very good at playing those kinds of parts.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like the douchebags.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a total yeah, douchebag guy like who maybe redeems

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<v Speaker 1>himself a little bit at the end, but yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>plays a douchebag. But Gene Hackman tells them all like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you mind your business? Then let me take

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<v Speaker 1>care of this. He has his first practice and the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are some of them are shitty, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are great. We meet one that's named Ali. Ali's so

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<v Speaker 1>cute you could just put him in your pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of the people call him Big Ali.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor Ali.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like a spudweed sized.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's probably he's probably like five six yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else is like six foot or taller.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Prince played basketball, and apparently he was really fucking

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<v Speaker 2>good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that's what we learned from the Chappelle Show. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Charlie Murphy. Charlie Murphy, Prince could really ball,

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<v Speaker 1>so go go Allie, and he just really he tries

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<v Speaker 1>to break them down and build them back up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tale is old at time for sports movies. Basically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we meet Dennis Hopper at one point as the town drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>also the father of one of the players they meet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of scenes where like Gene Hackman meets

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, and Gene Hackman does all the talking.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the other thing that happens, Oh, this scene is

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrating. There's like a rally, like a pep rally

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<v Speaker 1>at school and he brings the team out and the

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<v Speaker 1>team just or the school just starts chanting like we

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<v Speaker 1>want Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's so rude, it's so dude, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We want Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>We have almost four hundred students in this school. We're

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like poor that poor team. And he gives them like

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<v Speaker 1>a real you know, he gives them the whole Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you support who we are, not who we aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>These boys have made the choice to put in the

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's like crickets tumbleweeds blow through. They're like, eah,

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<v Speaker 1>they play their first game, it doesn't go well. They

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we get a lot of angry dads on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline going on, you know, barging in during halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking they know best. It's so shitty, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He just keeps doing what he's doing and he's breaking again.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like breaking them down and building them back up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing we just we saw it and

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<v Speaker 1>remember the Titans. You see it right sports movies. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think this movie doesn't give all the players their

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<v Speaker 1>individual little moments and personality traits the way some other

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what some of them do. I I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's missing anything. I feel like I know them

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<v Speaker 2>well enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Strap is the one who like he really

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<v Speaker 1>loves the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves to pray, love he's good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like I did laugh out loud where like

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<v Speaker 1>they're all praying and like they're done and he's still

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<v Speaker 1>just there praying and he's like, well make sure you're done,

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<v Speaker 1>but tip On, Like he just he really loves the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he's playing really well, he's like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>the power of the Lord flowing through me. It's like, okay, Strap, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Ali's thing is that he's short.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's actually a good ballplayer. Yeah, he played.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he was a senior in high school. He

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<v Speaker 2>was really young, but he played basketball, so he was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good at it. It was the guy who played

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy who hadn't played ball. He didn't know right, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was a big deal, like for him because he

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<v Speaker 2>never misses, like he's like there's a whole scene with

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<v Speaker 2>him in gene Ackman. Yeah, and he doesn't talk. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just shooting the ball. He just he dunks it. Every

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't dug but he just shoots it just NonStop, like

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<v Speaker 2>he never misses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's it's pretty impressive. And so yeah, their first

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<v Speaker 1>game doesn't go well, and at one point, like so

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<v Speaker 1>he has no assistant coach, he has the principal as

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<v Speaker 1>his assistant coach. Things get too stressful, the assistant principle

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<v Speaker 1>has like heart issues and he can't do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when Gene Hackman goes to visit Dennis Hopper

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<v Speaker 1>and asks him to like kind of clean up and

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<v Speaker 1>join him on the bench. And again, like fifteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old me wasn't into this, but now I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool to see a scene with Gene Hackman and

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Hopper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's so they're so good together. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>there's such great chemistry, and and I got Dennis Hopper

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<v Speaker 2>was such a great actor. He was absolutely you just

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<v Speaker 2>your heartbroken dealing with this guy, because yeah, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a part. It's you know, he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a fuck up. He doesn't want to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just he's got a problem. Yeah, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>throwing him a lifeline and helping him out. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And again, I love how gently is about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a dick about it, And I love. I love,

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<v Speaker 1>love love Dennis Hopper in this movie. Like I he

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<v Speaker 1>dark cloud, like yeah, a real brooding asshole type or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not. He's actually really he's actually really sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and like like you know, he has a lovely smile

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<v Speaker 1>and like there seems like there's something amusing about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just has this problem that's like more than

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<v Speaker 1>good and again, like fifteen year old me didn't appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen year old me was like, he should have

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<v Speaker 1>been nominated for Blue Velvet, and I see why he's

421
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<v Speaker 1>nominated for this movie now.

422
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>He anchors the movie he does. Yeah, he's so good

423
00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:31.440
<v Speaker 2>in it.

424
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 1>And I think Gene Hackman should have been nominated too,

425
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 1>but oh, absolutely, what are you gonna do? They had

426
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to make room for William Hurt and Children of a

427
00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Lesser God.

428
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>That movie. I never liked that movie of You. I

429
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>did not.

430
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought Marley Mattlin was very good in it, by

431
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the way.

432
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I did too, but I just found it. I just

433
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<v Speaker 2>it's not my it's it's a choice, a choice.

434
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I would rather have seen Gene Hagman in that category.

435
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 2>But yes, yeah, I think this movie, I think more

436
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.359
<v Speaker 2>people should see it. I think it's uh yeah, you

437
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>really do care about these kids. I mean, yeah, it's there.

438
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just a ballgame. And but they do get better

439
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and better as they go.

440
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is that the rules changed.

441
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.039
<v Speaker 2>They were saying, like in the fifties, you could still

442
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 2>be a really small school and wind up playing a

443
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.960
<v Speaker 2>big team. Now they changed the rules, like you had

444
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<v Speaker 2>to stick to different districts depending on the size of

445
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.960
<v Speaker 2>your school. So this was much more democratic, and that

446
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.279
<v Speaker 2>like you really did egalitary. Maybe you want to say,

447
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like you did have to earn that spot. But

448
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.160
<v Speaker 2>when you get there, and then when they get to

449
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>their they get to the finals, they got their their

450
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:49.839
<v Speaker 2>final match, and it's the championships, the state championships, and

451
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:56.839
<v Speaker 2>they're from like Muncie or East Bend, Indiana, South South Bend. Sorry,

452
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:00.160
<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, those and those dudes are gigan to

453
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<v Speaker 2>compare to these kids, and you're like, this is not

454
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna this is total you know, Davy and Goliath, k Yeah,

455
00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and spoiler they make it.

456
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>What what's funny is I know how the movie ends,

457
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was still like, go allie, make that best.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Oh I still and I love Super Care. I care

459
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>so much.

460
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:26.799
<v Speaker 2>And then the smart thing that Dennis Hopper did was

461
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 2>that they in the original script he falls off the wagon,

462
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, once again he falls off the wagon. But

463
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>then he comes back for the final game. And then

464
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<v Speaker 2>he's there when they the f and Dennis Hopper, who

465
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>had just quit drinking, said no, he would stay in

466
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>the hospital because that's where he needs to be, because

467
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>he's this is his last chance to really get sober

468
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 2>and make it county. And so he's staying for his sobriety.

469
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>And so then you have him in the hospital and

470
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 2>it's much better having him reacting in the hospital with

471
00:25:58.440 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the radio that.

472
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:01.839
<v Speaker 1>It would have been him there with the world's most

473
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 1>patient nurse.

474
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.680
<v Speaker 2>This nurse just working doing her paperwork in the room

475
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>with the patients.

476
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I love this, and he's just like, you don't understand,

477
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and she's just

478
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.599
<v Speaker 1>like whatever.

479
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 2>But still it really it's it's it just rang true

480
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:19.839
<v Speaker 2>to me.

481
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love And there's a whole thing too where

482
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>they of course, a movie like this needs to have

483
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a town hall meeting where they're like, we're gonna get

484
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 1>rid of him because he's an outsider and he's not

485
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.039
<v Speaker 1>doing it the way we want to do it. And

486
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 1>this is where Barbara Hershey could have She really could

487
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>have put the nail in the coffin here and like

488
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 1>sent him on his way. She at this point has

489
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>found out like why he got why he lost his

490
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 1>old job, which was he actually like punch, punch, punch player.

491
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But you can't do you no, no, no, no, we don't.

492
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't punch kid.

493
00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:00.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not okay.

494
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's a college coach, so I guess this

495
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>kid would have been eight. We don't punch. We don't

496
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>no hitting.

497
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no hitting, allow, You're not allowed to no hitt.

498
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>And you know they have a very you know, they

499
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about it and he's like, this is my second chance.

500
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why, you know, I wish I

501
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>could go back and take it back. I think about

502
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it all the time.

503
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure, yeah, yeah.

504
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And the truth is she likes him. And they go

505
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 1>to the town hall and she it looks like she's

506
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. She's brought the story. She stands up

507
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 1>there and then she just says, like it would be

508
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>a huge mistake if you guys let him leave. Like

509
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 1>it's because she likes him.

510
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Because she likes him and she sees the potential and she.

511
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Sees the potential and like the team is getting better,

512
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's like the big moment, of course, is Jimmy

513
00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>comes in and he's like, I will join the team

514
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, see you told you you were. Yeah,

515
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like you'll play and he's like, no, I only play

516
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>if the coach stays and everyone's like what.

517
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>What.

518
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's when everything starts to click into place and

519
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they start winning and Dennis Hopper shows up and he's

520
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>sober and he's he's doing the assistant coach thing. And

521
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I do love the scene where Gene Hackman purposely gets

522
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>himself thrown out of a game so that Dennis Hopper

523
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 1>has a moment to shine. And I what I love

524
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>about it is he he tells Dennis Hopper like, Dennis

525
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Hopper's like, don't get thrown out of any more games,

526
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's all, I totally won't, basically, and yeah, next game,

527
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>he's like, look, I just want to discuss it with

528
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the ref and he walks up to the rep and

529
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like, do you have pigeon shit?

530
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 2>And you're just throw me out, now, throw me out,

531
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 2>just throw me out.

532
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he tells him to throw him out and

533
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he does, and then he lets shoot her take the

534
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>lead and he he does. He comes up with like

535
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a great play that they are able to use to

536
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like win the game, and you know, he gets some

537
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>respect from his and it's like it's such a good moment.

538
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of it so much.

539
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 1>And then there's like a semi final game, and this

540
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 1>is the game that I always think in my head

541
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.519
<v Speaker 1>is the final and that's the one with like Ali

542
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>doing the like what they call a granny style.

543
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the free yeah, the free throw. But it's yeah, yeah,

544
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>they do it underhanded. I don't think they do that anymore.

545
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>No, I looked it up. I don't think anyone's done

546
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that since like ninety, right, yeah, or maybe they said

547
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>eighty or ninety. I forget. It's not really something that

548
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>they do anymore.

549
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Now.

550
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>That's how I do it when I play with my son,

551
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm because I am an old lady. That's that's why.

552
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>But that's not even the final game. Like it's like

553
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 1>this huge moment that like Ali makes these baskets and

554
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone's like yay. But that's just the game

555
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that gets them. The championship game, which is in this

556
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 1>like auditorium that's so huge to them. They've never been

557
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 1>in a building that big before. And I love the

558
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>scene where Gene Hackman measures.

559
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>You're right, you know the distance?

560
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's like same size, you know as what

561
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.119
<v Speaker 1>we have at home. And and then they play and

562
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.119
<v Speaker 1>you have those kids are way bigger and it's a

563
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>way bigger town and a way bigger school district and

564
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they probably have more resources than all of those things too.

565
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So right, it's a it's a big thing, and you know,

566
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>like all sports movies, it's got a very exciting final game.

567
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious how they even shoot these kinds of movies,

568
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, because there's so much cutting. Do they

569
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 1>just let them play and film it.

570
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I hate wonder.

571
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>And like, I guess I should watch making of or

572
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 1>something so I could get it.

573
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I saw one of the making of there's a little

574
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>featurette and it's Gene Hackman and he said he's in India.

575
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>They filmed this in Indiana. And then this really small

576
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>town and There's a woman that's in one of the

577
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 2>crowd scenes. She goes up to Gene Hackman and says,

578
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I knew your mother, your mom, your mom. My mom

579
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>and your mom were friends. And she brings a picture

580
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to Gene Hackman. It's her mother with his mother, and

581
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>then he tells us, my mother died in a house

582
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>fire and all of her photos were in there in

583
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that house. He goes, I only have this photo now

584
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>of my mother.

585
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, right, oh my god.

586
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I gave you the chills.

587
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why would he be so shitty about this movie?

588
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I he just well, when you watch the extra clips,

589
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>because the deleted scenes, they're not all jug up, they

590
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>don't have the proper you know, they just looked kind

591
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of rough, and he's probably walking around like and it

592
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>was rare, like there thirty nine days they said it

593
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>rained like thirty one of them. Yeah, you know, in

594
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere in Indiana. You know, he's like,

595
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you're with a bunch of you know, amateurs that weren't actors.

596
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>He had to teach these kids stuff, and he's probably like,

597
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here, Like, what's going to make it

598
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>into the final film? Right?

599
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's go ahead.

600
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, who knows what makes a movie good anyway, Like

601
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>it's they're always taking a risk.

602
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 1>They are absolutely and like he gene happened, he was

603
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a big star. But at this point he'd won afe. Yeah,

604
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>you're all ready for the French connection, Like he's a

605
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 1>big deal.

606
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And he was also filming Superman four, like write this,

607
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>and he apparently was like super excited to do that

608
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>one because it was an anti nuclear war. He did

609
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.279
<v Speaker 2>not have a big Dude, you didn't really you should

610
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 2>really just go by script. Go by the script, dude,

611
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Speaker 2>just go by the script. Okay. But he thought that

612
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 2>would be the big movie. And he thought this, yes,

613
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 2>which is a notoriously horrible Superman movie.

614
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He really directed his anger at the wrong movie. Right,

615
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a bad movie.

616
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Bad, It's an objectively terrible film.

617
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Like I get, I I there's things in Part three

618
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that I actually think are good. I don't know if

619
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I could say the same for Superman.

620
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>No.

621
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to like it because it had John

622
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Cryer in.

623
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>It, exactly. And I was at the Alex Bennett show

624
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 2>when John Cryer was there and he was promoting Hiding

625
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Out and Alex said, to which we did an episode

626
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>of The One and Alex Wana was a radio show

627
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco by the way back in the back

628
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>in the eighties, and he was on the show and

629
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Alex said to him, you know what I really enjoyed

630
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Superman for and John Cryer looked because I know you're

631
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 2>a liar. That's a terrible movie.

632
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>He's also you're the one.

633
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly. He was like, dude, it's okay, it's

634
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>a terrible It's fine, it's not that's a horrible movie.

635
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 2>He's like very much like right off the bat. And

636
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I like John Cryer, He's just very normal.

637
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>He seems like good people, good people. Yeah.

638
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 1>So they play in their big game. You'll never believe this.

639
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>It comes down to like the last second of what's

640
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, and there is this moment where like

641
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Gene Hagmany calls the time out and they're like, we're

642
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 1>going to do this. This is the play, this is

643
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do, and the team just kind

644
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of takes a step back and takes a moment and

645
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>he's like, what's wrong with you? What is it? And

646
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy says, I'll make it and he's like, all right,

647
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.039
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. And it's like actually kind of a

648
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 1>big moment.

649
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Like it's they're really well filmed. I mean, these guys

650
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>are good ballplayers, so it is like watching a real game,

651
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and it is exciting. It's like really good players. Basketball

652
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 2>is an exciting game to watch. I mean absolutely, their

653
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>shit going on all the time. You have add it's

654
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.559
<v Speaker 2>perfect because just it's just boom boom boom. See.

655
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>This is why I like, I love to go to

656
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>basketball games, like we have we have a Warriors like

657
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Chase Stadium here now in San Francisco. I love to

658
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.280
<v Speaker 1>go to games. I don't watch basketball at home because

659
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't find that relaxing, like because it is like

660
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>constant you have to pay attention.

661
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like and hope the same thing.

662
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I like baseball because it's it's because

663
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it's slow. It's yeah, I like that pace when I'm

664
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>at home. But I love to go to baseball games too.

665
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 1>But I love the he this movie, I'm like, I love,

666
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I love I love remember the same member.

667
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Remember You and the Beatles.

668
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 1>That was awesome. He he's the one who's called the shots.

669
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>You will do what I tell you you're in my

670
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>army now, like all of this stuff. And then at

671
00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the end there they very politely push back. They like

672
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>take a pause, they take a breath, and Jimmy's like,

673
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll make it, and he changes his mind. He listens

674
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to them and he lets them do their thing, and

675
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't again, I don't think that at fifteen that

676
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>hit me And now I'm like, oh, they made their

677
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>own choice there and it worked, and he trusted them

678
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 1>to make the call.

679
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>And when he says I love you, guys.

680
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Go, that's where I cry.

681
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I bet you. I bet so many men cry at

682
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>that moment because they don't like the guys that don't

683
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>like to cry. I'm sure they watch this movie to

684
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>cry so they can have that that and uh, what

685
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:44.119
<v Speaker 2>am I thinking of that? Of course, Dreams, Field of Dreams.

686
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>It's got that kind of that kind of a sports movie.

687
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>It's got that scene where you can kind of give

688
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>yourself permission to cry, which I did.

689
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, we we all have those movies that,

690
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>yeah watch because we need to cry.

691
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>When I have trouble accessing emotion. Yes, I've just put

692
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>that on and that'll just make me cry and I'll

693
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>get it out.

694
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>A movie can do that for you, Yes, absolutely, and

695
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 1>you know spoilers, but they totally win. They win, you know,

696
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 1>they score just as the buzzer sounds. Of course they do.

697
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 1>They're like the smallest school to ever win, like the

698
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Indiana State championship and we get the shot of them

699
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're like championship photo and the whole I love

700
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys, And I'm like, it's just.

701
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>A perfect little movie. It really, there's nothing. I mean,

702
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I would add more to it. If anything else I would,

703
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be I would be totally fine if they

704
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>were like twenty minutes longer.

705
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 1>The love I would love like a couple more scenes

706
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 1>with him and Barbara Hershey, Yes, when he shows up

707
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 1>at her house and like she's doing some gardening or whatever,

708
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and they take a walk and like they're chatting forbid

709
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and they kiss and she says like it's been it's

710
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 1>been a while or it's been a long time, and

711
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>he's like for me too, and I'm like it's.

712
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Just so sweet.

713
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 1>It's yes, like you know it again, Like it's not

714
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like they could just go on the apps and fucking

715
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>swipe around and meet.

716
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you're in a town of like nineteen hundred, Like,

717
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to meet everybody in no time you've dated everybody,

718
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.239
<v Speaker 2>or everyone's dated each other.

719
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need someone to move to town in order

720
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, get a little action. And you know,

721
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 1>she finally has met someone that she likes. And I

722
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like there's a scene like right after it where people

723
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>are he's answering questions for reporters and they're like, are

724
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.679
<v Speaker 1>you going to be staying in Hickory? And I love

725
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that she picks up the little bullhorn and she's like.

726
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great question.

727
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, of course he will, because he really

728
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>likes her.

729
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he's finding his stride. He also likes the school,

730
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>he likes the town, and yeah, he's ready to settle

731
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:58.760
<v Speaker 2>down there. He's good with it.

732
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I think so. And I just I read that originally

733
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholson was going to play the Gene Hackman part.

734
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, and he was polite enough to tell the director

735
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that I thought everyone was terrific. He says, but if

736
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it were me, it would have been a mega hit.

737
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And he's not wrong. I mean, Jack Nicholson was a

738
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>huge star in the eighties, Like yeah, but he was

739
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 2>in some lawsuit and couldn't work for the time that

740
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>they were filming it, so that's when they had to

741
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>get Gene Hackman after that, who just complained the whole time.

742
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 2>But it turns out it's like one of his best movies.

743
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

744
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I think so easily.

745
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And Harry Dean Stanton was supposed to play the Dennis

746
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Hopper part where I was.

747
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say he would have been good too,

748
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>by the way he was. That was his role to play.

749
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think there's something about Dennis Hopper. And also

750
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Dennis Hopper was good friends with James Dean. They made the.

751
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>End and Rebel without a Cause together.

752
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, And James Dean paid basketball in the early fifties

753
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.039
<v Speaker 2>in Indiana and he played against the team that was

754
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>from Milan or Millan, Indiana. So he like, it's based

755
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>on a real story ish that happened in like nineteen

756
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 2>fifty four in Indiana and it was two different schools

757
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and James Dean played against the school that won and

758
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it was like the school school it was a big

759
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>story blah blah blah. So there's all kinds of places,

760
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, that things kind of coalesce and are

761
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 2>interesting but I think it's it's really well done. The

762
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 2>script is good, the acting's great. It's very realistic. There's

763
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing anachronistic about it. Like I feel like I'm totally

764
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty two in Indiana, and not in a

765
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 2>crazy way. I just feel like, I just I understand.

766
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>And how much do you want to eat that food?

767
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I bet all that food was so good. When I

768
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 2>see movies like in the fifties and diners, I'm like,

769
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's some damn good food.

770
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a good biscuit.

771
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I want good pie.

772
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they're eating pie in one of the scenes.

773
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh. And I'm like, you know, that's tasty.

774
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That's some damn fine pie. They would say in Twin Peaks.

775
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>So Dennis Hopper was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for

776
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>this movie, and.

777
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 2>We're with Velvet, which he thought he would get aphoria.

778
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I get why he's not blue. Velvet is very very weird,

779
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and he's very very good in it. But this feels

780
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>more like the kind of movie the Academy likes to

781
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>get awards for.

782
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And also I just finkly like I find the character

783
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 2>more relatable. I love David Lynch's movies. But there's nothing

784
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.280
<v Speaker 2>relatable about them. And that's fine.

785
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for that, I don't.

786
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I watch them because I want to look in

787
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 2>a mirror at my life, like I I. But but

788
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the problem with it is it can be so strange

789
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>that it's hard to re uh to connect with it

790
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 2>on a human level. Whereas Dennis Hopper with Gen like

791
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you said, if that scene with Gene Hackman in his

792
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 2>crappy house, you know, with barely electricity and anything, and

793
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 2>this guy's like add his whitworst and Gene Hackman's like,

794
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you this lifeline. I'm gonna I

795
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 2>want you to do this, and I bet you could

796
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 2>do it. And he's like, I got a sue that's soon.

797
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I got married. In I you can see he's getting excited,

798
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like somebody believes in him. It's so warm, it's it's

799
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>so good.

800
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>He's he is at his lowest. He's living in like

801
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>a house that's falling apart. It's yeah, no electricity probably,

802
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's still like trying to be a good host, like, yeah, here,

803
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 1>sit at the fire. Do you want to do? You

804
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>want to I think already you want to snort. I

805
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>think and offers him the bottle and he's like, no,

806
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 1>thank you, but like you can still see like his humanity. Yeah,

807
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess, And I feel like playing in blue velvet

808
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 1>that's just a it's not real.

809
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not real. It's a performance of material, and so

810
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 2>is what he's doing here. But one, I just it

811
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 2>seems natural to me and more grounded in reality, and

812
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the other is more of a movie, it's an art project.

813
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Which is they're both fine. I mean, they both serve

814
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>their purpose. But if you're telling, like which one do

815
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 2>I connect with more, I'm good. It has to be

816
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Hoosiers every time, And every time I watch Hoosiers, I'm like, god,

817
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>damn it. Dennis Hopper was good. He was such a

818
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>good actor. He was. It's so much charisma. He had

819
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 2>so much. He really did.

820
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 4>If you connect to Frank in blue velvet, yes, like

821
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 4>he's huffing a tank, yeah, I have questions for you.

822
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I love Lynch but yeah he was weird.

823
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's super weird. So he's nominated for Hoosiers. I

824
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>thought you might like to know.

825
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, please.

826
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I also have a list of Gene Hackman movies for us,

827
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 1>so other people nominated Denholm Elliott for A Room with

828
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a View Denham Denham, I've never seen a Room with

829
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>a view? Should I It's fine, Okay? I mean I

830
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>like those kinds of movies.

831
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I probably, yeah, yeah, it's fine. It's good.

832
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Two people from Platoon Willem Dafoe.

833
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I just saw a documentary about Platoon. It was a

834
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.159
<v Speaker 2>few years old. I didn't realize it, but those men

835
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.599
<v Speaker 2>fucking love each other, like they really went through the

836
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>shit together.

837
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 1>They went through like a boot camp together.

838
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah in the Philippines.

839
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn yeah, no, thank you. And Tom Behringer was also nominated.

840
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>And he's hot.

841
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Tots And normally the winner was Michael Caine for Hannah

842
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and her Sisters.

843
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 2>He's really good in that movie. He is.

844
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>And also I think it was like a it's his

845
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 1>year kind of thing. Yeah, it was like it's his turn.

846
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Because he's always good. Like Gene Hackman, he's always good. Yep.

847
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And then some other Gene Hackman movies that we haven't

848
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about on the show because we've done a couple

849
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Gene Hackman movies. So if you're like, what about the

850
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Bird Cage, we already did The Bird Cage so uh

851
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>not the French connection and the French connection and the

852
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Quicken the dead right, and maybe that's it. There might

853
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 1>be one more in there that I'm not there.

854
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 2>We should do the first Superman movie one of these

855
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 2>days we have.

856
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we have done Superman. Really, I can

857
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>look it up.

858
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 2>You gotta look up in the files.

859
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's see Superman. I'm almost positive we did the door Key. Now,

860
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe we did it. Let's see. Oh my god, you

861
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and I have not done Superman.

862
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>The seventy eight one. No, we gotta do that. Okay,

863
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>all right, because I saw the Christopher Reeve documentary a

864
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago. You did.

865
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did Superman back when the show first started

866
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 1>with my previous host. I would love to redo it,

867
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>so we will do.

868
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>We deleted those episodes.

869
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Those episodes are missing in action. So other other Gene

870
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Hackman movies. The Conversation, great movie, really great. Mississippi Burning,

871
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>such a hilarious, hilarious, so fun. That played at my

872
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.079
<v Speaker 1>movie theater, and it played for quite a while too.

873
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it was supposed to win a lot of awards.

874
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 1>It didn't, but it had that Oscar run to two

875
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>courtroom movies. He did the Firm, which I think we covered.

876
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We have not it's on our list though.

877
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>We did that.

878
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 1>We did The Client, and we did a Time to Kill.

879
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 1>But we did the Fir and the Pelican Brief and

880
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the Pelican Brief. That's right, we did that one with Adamirski. Yeah,

881
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>he was also in Runaway Jury.

882
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a good movie.

883
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>That's an entertaining one too. And then of course Get

884
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Get Shorty.

885
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Get Shorty. I have not seen in so long and

886
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm dying to watch it again.

887
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we could put and we could bump any of

888
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 1>these up to the top of the list if we want. Yeah,

889
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Crimson Tide.

890
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Never seen it.

891
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I love Crimson Tie.

892
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I know people love it. I don't.

893
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>It's an acquired not A submarine movie is not for everybody.

894
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 2>My brother was in submarines too. He was in the

895
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Navy for eight years, so he.

896
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Was also an unforgiven obviously.

897
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good movie.

898
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I really like He's in Postcards from the Edge.

899
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Great fucking movie based on a really great book.

900
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Love Postcards from.

901
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>The Edge rip Carrie Fisher.

902
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I saw that genius so many times in the theater

903
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 1>because it played at my theater, and I would just

904
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>go and see it because I loved it so much.

905
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Two more, the Royal ten in Bombs.

906
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Great movie.

907
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 1>He's so good in that movie.

908
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>He's good in that. I mean, if you like Wes Anderson,

909
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that is the caveat Yes.

910
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 1>And then his last movie is Welcome to Mooseport.

911
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>God bless him for doing that.

912
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 1>But wow, it's fine. It's fine. It's like, hm, like,

913
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 1>that's not how he well whatever, he made his choices,

914
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that's not he maybe after Royal ten in Bombs,

915
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 1>like you could just cut the list, but whatever, Welcome

916
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to Mooseport is a thing that happened.

917
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 2>No, and then he did all those commercials for years.

918
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>He was the voice of what was the carrier, Oh

919
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 2>my god, Sprint T Mobile. I think he's the T

920
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Mobile voice.

921
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's see, Gene Hackman, because he did it for years

922
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and that you make serious fucking money doing that over commercials.

923
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

924
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>He did stuff for Lending Tree. Oh my god, he

925
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>did Missed, he did like Doctor Clean, he did a

926
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.559
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch. Oh my gosh, who knew?

927
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I think he had a studio at his house.

928
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 2>That the one that he unfortunately passed away in. But

929
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he had like a studio set up there.

930
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 1>He did over for United Airlines.

931
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did a lot of that. Dude.

932
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 1>That's good money.

933
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>It's great fucking money. But I think it's yeah exactly,

934
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 2>we're here. I told you, like my book. They sold

935
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the rights for the audio, and then I said to

936
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 2>my my editor, I'm like, oh, well, will I be

937
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 2>doing it? He goes, well, I don't know. I don't

938
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>know if they're even gonna ask you. And I'm like,

939
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>really like, oh, hello.

940
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. It's like, what I do?

941
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I have got hours and hours you could listen to.

942
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't even tell you how many work things I've

943
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>been roped into just because of the fancy Mike. Yeah,

944
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 1>she's not kidding. I I am not.

945
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

946
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's hear some songs.

947
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this is the top ten. This movie came

948
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>out November fourteenth, eighty six. Right, yep, alright, so number God.

949
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I love this list. Number ten it's Cidey Laupper, True

950
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Colors Love Cindy makes Me Cry. I love that song. This.

951
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I love this song the Rain Orange Juice Jones song

952
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:42.079
<v Speaker 2>You and Him and Him in the Rain. Number eight.

953
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>This song The Next Time I Fall Peter Setara and

954
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Amy Grant.

955
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're not escape that song.

956
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:53.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a mall song. It everywhere. Number six I didn't

957
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 2>mean to turn you on. Robert Palmer. I loved Robert

958
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Palmer and I love that album so good. Number five

959
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 2>bon Jovi, You give have a Bad Name.

960
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 1>I love that song You Get a Bad Name.

961
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 2>I love when Triumph the Dog went to see Bunch of.

962
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Everything Triumph does.

963
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He gets high on the tour bus with everybody. Oh

964
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 2>it's hilarious. Okay. Number five sorry, Number four take Me

965
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Home Tonight, Eddie Money. Great song. Number three True Blue

966
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 2>by Madonna when she was married to Sean Penn. Oh yeah,

967
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Number two that was three. Sorry. Number two Human League

968
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Human that's a good song.

969
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 1>That's a good song.

970
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.920
<v Speaker 2>And number one Amanda by Boston. That was like, oh my.

971
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>God, totally forgot about that song.

972
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

973
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I have one of my I remember one of my

974
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 1>longest friends is his name Amanda, and one of our

975
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 1>coworkers at the theater used to have this song on

976
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a t and I was like, he has a crush

977
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 1>on Amanda, and that's why this song is honest.

978
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I think about that song. Hey, Delilah, do you remember that song, Yeah,

979
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Hey Delai La blah, And it was because the singer

980
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 2>had a crush on a girl named Delilah and she

981
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:18.159
<v Speaker 2>told him no like a thousand times, and then he

982
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.079
<v Speaker 2>made a song that she had to hear for like

983
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.840
<v Speaker 2>a year and she yeah, And she did some interviews

984
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>and she was kind of like, yeah, we just you know,

985
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 2>there's no chemistry for me. I'm sorry. You know. The

986
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 2>answer is still no. The answer is still no.

987
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on your novelty hit, but no, yeah, no, no,

988
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

989
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Good try though, good try if he can go into

990
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 2>what we're doorky out about. Yes, I have I have

991
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>a Boston thing I have to talk about.

992
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

993
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Because my thing on people on people have different things

994
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. So my co host for Book versus Movie,

995
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Margo likes people taking things out of their bag, like

996
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 2>the purse, your sack.

997
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I want to see what's in your purse?

998
00:52:57.480 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, that's her thing. And you know some people

999
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 2>like unboxing things is their thing. For me, it's people

1000
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 2>reacting to music and it's it's my favorite. And there's

1001
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 2>one that I found it it's from if you just

1002
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to do and react to Boston for play long Time,

1003
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's a there's an instrumental and then it leads

1004
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 2>to a song called long Time. I haven't heard it

1005
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in twenty years, thirty years, I don't know. It's from

1006
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>their first album, and it is so fucking amazing to

1007
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 2>watch all these people reacting to this song because it

1008
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 2>actually is like a really good song. It's got way

1009
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 2>over production and you know, guitar solos and it's got

1010
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a spaceship looks, young people, all kinds of people. Okay,

1011
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that's what I love about it. It's like there's a

1012
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 2>mixture of different kinds of people, different races, different genders,

1013
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>different places in the world that they live in, and

1014
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.840
<v Speaker 2>they just react. They pick songs and then the person

1015
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.239
<v Speaker 2>like edits it to see everybody's reactions to it, and

1016
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>they did that. They do that a lot with Kendrick

1017
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Lamar because of the Super Bowl thing, right, But during

1018
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>COVID there were a lot of people who were doing

1019
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>putting these kinds of videos out on YouTube because everyone

1020
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>was bored and they were home, and so there was

1021
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 2>there's like there was this group of of vloggers that

1022
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>would just like they come up with a playlist and

1023
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 2>they would react to songs and then one of them

1024
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 2>would put them all together. And I've just been watching

1025
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 2>that like and it's it was so fucking good.

1026
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>I for a while loved watching these twin boys.

1027
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 2>The twins are the new trend or something. They broke up. Oh,

1028
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.800
<v Speaker 2>they had a fight. They had an argument and they

1029
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 2>broke up, and then it was just one of them

1030
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 2>doing it and then he had to let it go

1031
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.039
<v Speaker 2>because it wasn't the same. They were so cute because

1032
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 2>they they they were durable boys. And they also they

1033
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:49.320
<v Speaker 2>were young kids. They're like teenagers and they were twins

1034
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 2>and they remember they listened to Uh in the Air tonight,

1035
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah when it gets to the drum fill and they

1036
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 2>freaked out.

1037
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they were like, what.

1038
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 2>What is it? Yeah, it's that. It's basically that, and

1039
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just different people. And there's one that one there's

1040
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 2>an opera singer in Scotland and.

1041
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 5>She's really but she's, oh, this is quite good threefold,

1042
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 5>and then there's like you get a guy that's totally

1043
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 5>high and baked in Detroit and just laying on his

1044
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 5>bed reacting.

1045
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 2>But he I could just tell you, guys, just just

1046
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.440
<v Speaker 2>do it. It's just really great anyway, So that's something

1047
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 2>you won't be sorry. We brought up Boston, so I

1048
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 2>had to bring it back to Boston. That's why. So

1049
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking out paying attention to let's talk about. Amazon

1050
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 2>has a documentary about the Tragically Hip that I've waited

1051
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>for months to watch because it's called No Dress Rehearsal Okay,

1052
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's three or four parts, and it's a band

1053
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I love. They They're like they were the kings of Canada,

1054
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 2>like they're huge there. And then the lead singer, Gordon died.

1055
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Gordon Downey died from brain cancer and his fuck cancer

1056
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:01.559
<v Speaker 2>and oh got it so heartbreaking, like they did a

1057
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.679
<v Speaker 2>final tour and then he died a few months but

1058
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 2>it happened super quickly, like and it's just there. He

1059
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 2>went to Europe to get to try to get cures

1060
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 2>for it, like he had millions, like he had he

1061
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>had all this access and he's free health care in

1062
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.639
<v Speaker 2>Canada and he and his wife were going through a

1063
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 2>divorce at the time and then they got back together,

1064
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 2>but he had these tumors in his head and they

1065
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't figure it out. And the one thing they

1066
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 2>could do to help him, and it was basically with

1067
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the pain because he had just these headaches that were

1068
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.559
<v Speaker 2>just blinding. Is they did this treatment, but it caused

1069
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:36.519
<v Speaker 2>him to have memory loss, so he couldn't drive because

1070
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 2>he get lost. He couldn't remember the lyrics, he couldn't

1071
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.119
<v Speaker 2>make it was it's so heartbreaking. But so it took

1072
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>me months to watch this and then I finally got

1073
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.079
<v Speaker 2>to do it, and then it's really beautiful. But it's sad,

1074
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 2>but it also it's really nice and I hope they

1075
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 2>have like this renaissance of people kind of discovering them

1076
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:57.800
<v Speaker 2>because their music is great. And he's just it's you know,

1077
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.000
<v Speaker 2>fuck cancer man, what can I say? Especially Yeah, So

1078
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 2>that's on Amazon YouTube. They're oh, there's a documentary about

1079
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 2>this movie called for the Small Schools. And it's the

1080
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>guy that says that in this movie, the player that

1081
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.599
<v Speaker 2>says that let's do this. Oh that line kills me.

1082
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's do this for all the small schools that can't

1083
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 2>make it here that I'll never know what it's right

1084
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.519
<v Speaker 2>and he unfortunately he died by suicide. Oh I know,

1085
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 2>And so it's like the it's very sad. So it's

1086
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the cast, but the just meeting these actors, like twenty

1087
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.000
<v Speaker 2>years later, like talking about the movie and what it

1088
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 2>meant to them.

1089
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>It was really yeah, because they weren't professional actors.

1090
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>These no only a couple of them had any kind

1091
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of training, So like Gene Hackman had to teach them like,

1092
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 2>this is your light, this is your spot, this is

1093
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.519
<v Speaker 2>your you know, your mark, and this is what you do.

1094
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:51.159
<v Speaker 2>And he was he had to give them like this

1095
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 2>mini you know, training camp for acting. And think about it,

1096
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 2>these kids are like eighteen nineteen years old and Gene

1097
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Hackman is teaching them to be in this movie that

1098
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 2>they're doing.

1099
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>They're like, it's Lex Luthor, right.

1100
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>They were like this is so fucking cool. And they

1101
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>all just seemed like really they're a nice, nice Midwestern people.

1102
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm max they have white lotuses in their

1103
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:22.719
<v Speaker 2>third season. Are they doing incest? Is that what's going

1104
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 2>on here?

1105
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but that it makes me very uncomfortable.

1106
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there's Patrick Schwartzenager. We've seen his schwartznaga. Uh. He's

1107
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.079
<v Speaker 2>been naked a couple of times in this and he

1108
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.119
<v Speaker 2>has a younger brother.

1109
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they the way he looks at him, he's like, yeah, Cleary,

1110
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:46.360
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, it's it is making me uncomfortable. When they

1111
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>finally make the Donald Trump Junior movie, I think Patrick

1112
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger might be the natural.

1113
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 6>Choice, Like, my god, you're right, he's like this is practically.

1114
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 6>This is practically He's more handsome by like a thousand persons.

1115
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean that's what they do with movies. You

1116
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>get a handsome we're a better looking version of the person,

1117
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:09.840
<v Speaker 2>because it just has to.

1118
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Be just like Sebastian stan playing Donald Trump, like no.

1119
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Exactly or.

1120
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, right never, but yeah, he would be good at.

1121
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Parker Posey is in there, Jason Isaacs is in there.

1122
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I miss Jennifer Coolidge. I'm just I'm curious where they're

1123
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 2>going to go with this.

1124
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that every season of the show.

1125
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm just true.

1126
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, where are we going with this? But I'm

1127
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 1>always along for the ride because the casting chef's kiss

1128
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>always yes. And I loved the scene in the most

1129
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 1>recent episode where they realized that Leslie Bibb is a trumper.

1130
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Like the three girlfriends who have known each other since

1131
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 1>like grade school or on the right and they're having

1132
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 1>dinner and it's just it's to slowly come out that,

1133
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 1>like because one of them is an actress who lives

1134
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:11.800
<v Speaker 1>in la and the other one is a lawyer in

1135
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 1>New York. And Leslie Bibbs's character with this like short,

1136
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>little blonde bob and she lives in Austin with her husband,

1137
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and it just slowly starts to come out that like

1138
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that she goes to this mega church and everyone's like,

1139
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that awkward because you're probably surrounded by all these

1140
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.719
<v Speaker 1>trumpers and she's like, doesn't really answer the question.

1141
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>And we've all had these questions, yeah, conversations like you

1142
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 2>start to talk to somebody like, oh wait a second,

1143
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I've also lived this.

1144
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I've lived this with people.

1145
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.039
<v Speaker 2>And how do people do see on TikTok that are

1146
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 2>like I voted for him three times. I was very proud,

1147
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But does anybody care about Kansas now? Like now, fuck y'all? Yeah,

1148
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel bad for the people who voted

1149
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>differently in Kansas, but you no, I don't feel sorry

1150
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 2>for you.

1151
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 1>No, you fucked around and now you're.

1152
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Gonna find out enjoy enjoy.

1153
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I've said that, Yeah, I'm sad for people who didn't

1154
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:17.079
<v Speaker 1>ask to fuck around. Right, But that scene is so

1155
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>well done about her, Right, they're obviously like they now

1156
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's starting to slowly come out the way. She tries

1157
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 1>to like like diffuse the situation with like are we

1158
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.960
<v Speaker 1>really going to talk about Trump right now? Like it's

1159
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 1>fine like me, you know, because it doesn't affect her.

1160
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 1>She's like a rich white woman.

1161
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Right and in Texas, and we have listeners in Texas

1162
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:44.679
<v Speaker 2>and Florida, and they tell us, like a lot of

1163
01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 2>them say like I want to leave or because yeah,

1164
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:50.119
<v Speaker 2>but you just can't pick up and move.

1165
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's no defensive and hard.

1166
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's also like you know somebody that you knew

1167
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 2>in your twenties and you're more idealistic of that. And

1168
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.159
<v Speaker 2>then to talk to them twenty thirty years later her

1169
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:03.719
<v Speaker 2>and I like to watch them give up basically those

1170
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 2>kinds of values. To trade them in for something more

1171
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 2>convenient is disappointing.

1172
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly. But it's white. Lotus is always fascinating. I

1173
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:21.000
<v Speaker 1>never know where it's gonna go. Yeah, and I and

1174
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I do like super care about Oh gosh, what's her name?

1175
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna have to look it up, the one

1176
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:27.119
<v Speaker 1>from the first season.

1177
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're talking about. And she had a

1178
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.960
<v Speaker 2>great show on that you got me hooked.

1179
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.079
<v Speaker 1>On How How Not to Die?

1180
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1181
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm gonna look up her name where's the

1182
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 1>cast because I want to give her her props? Oh

1183
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:44.119
<v Speaker 1>my god, you don't show her right away? What is

1184
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 1>wrong with you people? Natasha Rothwell, yes, she's so good.

1185
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I super care about her character. I don't want anything

1186
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 1>bad to happen to her. And I really I really

1187
01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:01.639
<v Speaker 1>like Emmy Leewood, Amy Lee, Sorry, Amy? Who would? Who's

1188
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 1>playing Walter Goggin's like girlfriend. I think she's doing such

1189
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.800
<v Speaker 1>a great job. I love Walter Goggins always. He's one

1190
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 1>of those people that's always great. Yes, like they're they're

1191
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:20.679
<v Speaker 1>doing such such good work. I'm just I'm really enjoying it.

1192
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just do I understand what's happening?

1193
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:27.280
<v Speaker 2>No? I do not. No same here, but I watch

1194
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it every week, like I watch it real time, like

1195
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait. Also, we need to talk about MATTLOCKOK. Look,

1196
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to say I think this show is so good,

1197
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and I think I like what they're doing with the

1198
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Mattlock character. So Maddie who's played by Kathy Bates, I mean,

1199
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.599
<v Speaker 2>of course it's good. I mean I'm I'm like, why

1200
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.559
<v Speaker 2>is she doing a TV series. I'm like, oh, this

1201
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 2>is why, because they probably her character is amazing. She

1202
01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:02.039
<v Speaker 2>plays this older woman in her seventies, sixties or seventies,

1203
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and she's joining a law firm and she's telling them,

1204
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:06.159
<v Speaker 2>my name is Maddy Mattlock.

1205
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:08.599
<v Speaker 1>And just like the old TV show.

1206
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:10.880
<v Speaker 2>She does like the TV show, and she really plays

1207
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 2>up like, you know, being the older lady. And I'm

1208
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.679
<v Speaker 2>starting to pick up those cues like people just don't

1209
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 2>think you're dangerous, like you can kind of get away

1210
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 2>with more.

1211
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 1>You start to be invisible, you can, yes, yeah, And

1212
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.679
<v Speaker 1>people aren't looking at you, they're not paying attention to you.

1213
01:04:25.639 --> 01:04:27.679
<v Speaker 2>And there's this there's a power in that if you

1214
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 2>use it correctly, and that's what she's doing. But she's

1215
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 2>her I love this show. Her her daughter died, her

1216
01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:39.000
<v Speaker 2>daughter was a drug addict and died. And then there's

1217
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 2>this she works for this law firm that represents this

1218
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:49.440
<v Speaker 2>pharm pharmatological company that released some kind of medication that

1219
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:54.920
<v Speaker 2>they knew could cause harm. And so she's the whole

1220
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 2>thing is so somehow it's tied to her daughter dying

1221
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and this, and so she's go to find out who

1222
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.960
<v Speaker 2>at the law firm knew what was going on and

1223
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.559
<v Speaker 2>hid it from the public because it caused all this,

1224
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:11.079
<v Speaker 2>all these deaths, and so you're like, is it Jason Ritter,

1225
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it Lloyd Bridge not Lloyd bow Bridges. Is it Olympia?

1226
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Like? Who is it? And that that she's

1227
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.119
<v Speaker 2>becoming friends with, and it's like you're getting to Maddie

1228
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 2>and at first she's playing kind of this daffy older

1229
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 2>lady to get in with good with everybody, but then

1230
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you realize, then you get to see her previous to this,

1231
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and she was really hard on her daughter, like for

1232
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 2>being an addict and really was doing the tough love thing,

1233
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like I think a little too hard, and so does

1234
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.599
<v Speaker 2>her husband, which is an interesting dynamic. But the daughter's gone.

1235
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 2>She's raising the sun her her grandson. But she's lying

1236
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to these people at this firm. So anyway, it's really cool.

1237
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But she's and she's starting to really care about a

1238
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people at the law firm. So she's developed

1239
01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 1>like a really sweet friendship with a Lympia who's her

1240
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.679
<v Speaker 1>boss played by sky P Marshall, and they are starting

1241
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to like be really close and like she's at a

1242
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.840
<v Speaker 1>certain point she's like it couldn't be her, she wouldn't

1243
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 1>do this, right, but but it keeps swinging back around

1244
01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:18.199
<v Speaker 1>where it's like maybe she did, maybe she was involved.

1245
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.800
<v Speaker 1>So there is all of that that this most recent episode,

1246
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they introduced Julie Haggarty as Kathy Bas's sister, who's so good.

1247
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Julie Haggerty does also daffy really well, so good.

1248
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:37.840
<v Speaker 1>She's so good, so good.

1249
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 2>So I'm honest, I'm sorry, go ahead.

1250
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was just gonna say, I love that Kathy

1251
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Bates' Mattlock based some of her quote unquote Mattlock character

1252
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:52.559
<v Speaker 1>on her sister, so like her husband's all, just think

1253
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of it as more research for your character that you're playing,

1254
01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 1>because she's the one that's like I just keep buying

1255
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.480
<v Speaker 1>all these words originals and I don't know why, and

1256
01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 1>like she is, she's so daffy, Like, I just love it.

1257
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:07.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

1258
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:11.599
<v Speaker 2>So I was saying, I did a Reddit group about Mattlock,

1259
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I think the last shot of this season,

1260
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 2>it's the first season, it's gonna be Olympia showing up

1261
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 2>at Maddie's reelhouse. Yeah, that's how I think it's going

1262
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:22.760
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

1263
01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Could be, could be, Like the creators behind this show

1264
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:30.880
<v Speaker 1>are the same people who did Jane the Virgin, which

1265
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I never wanted, but I have a friend who, my

1266
01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:37.800
<v Speaker 1>friend John loves Jane the Virgin, and that show had

1267
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:41.119
<v Speaker 1>like its original like hook, you know, and then it

1268
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 1>turned into something else. So the Mystery of Mattlock can't.

1269
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not sustainable. They can't do it forever, right, At

1270
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:52.119
<v Speaker 1>a certain point, it's going to have to turn into

1271
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 1>something else, and I'm very curious what that's going to be.

1272
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 2>It's really well done.

1273
01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 1>It is super well done, and I love the support cast.

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01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I look, Jason Ritter's killing it. He's I just I

1275
01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.159
<v Speaker 1>have such a soft spot for him because because of

1276
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:08.599
<v Speaker 1>his dad.

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01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.719
<v Speaker 2>His dad was John Ritter, yeah, who I got to

1278
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:13.800
<v Speaker 2>meet once a Good Morning America.

1279
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:15.119
<v Speaker 1>And I bet he was lovely.

1280
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 2>He was so lovely and really tall, very handsome, yeah,

1281
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 2>but nice to everybody. Like he showed up on the

1282
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.079
<v Speaker 2>set and it was one of those things like everybody

1283
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of just stopped to look at him for a

1284
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 2>second because it's.

1285
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 1>J Yeah, and he has he has it. He had it.

1286
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:33.319
<v Speaker 1>He's like he had arithma man. Yeah. I saw some

1287
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:36.920
<v Speaker 1>tiktoks going around where So Jason Ritter is married to

1288
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Melanie Lynskey Lynsky and they went to the Critics' Choice Awards,

1289
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And she looks beautiful, right, She's like in

1290
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a gorgeous like red sequin dress, and like all the

1291
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.119
<v Speaker 1>commenters are like, can Jason Ridder fight, like, because I

1292
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.159
<v Speaker 1>want to take your woman? And then he's been making

1293
01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 1>all these videos of him like trying to fight.

1294
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 2>He's, oh, that's what that is, Okay, we're wondering what

1295
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 2>that was about.

1296
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's like he's got like a mustache and

1297
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:13.279
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yo, like trying to like fight, Like he's

1298
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 1>like you, you know, trying to defend his wife, you know,

1299
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like lol. All the comments are from lesbians

1300
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:23.199
<v Speaker 1>that want you like he's going to be fighting all

1301
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 1>these win but they've been married for quite a while.

1302
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very sweet, wholesome stuff.

1303
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he seems very sweet and wholesome. Yeah.

1304
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I hope, I hope that is true. I yeah, I

1305
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:39.000
<v Speaker 1>hate to be wrong about him, but he's doing a

1306
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:42.640
<v Speaker 1>good job on that show. Anything else on your list?

1307
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:43.640
<v Speaker 2>No, that's it.

1308
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Shall we talk about below? Deck down Under? Oh my god?

1309
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Such a great show, so good.

1310
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 1>So they got rid of the Sioux chef, like he's

1311
01:09:56.119 --> 01:10:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like Anthony, yeah, I don't like washing dishes or taking orders,

1312
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.159
<v Speaker 1>and Jason's like, bitch bye. So they kick him off,

1313
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:07.279
<v Speaker 1>and then shall we talk about that fuck boy? What's

1314
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:10.159
<v Speaker 1>his name? Wihan Wiehan who?

1315
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Like is he south African? I don't know. They usually

1316
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.079
<v Speaker 2>the fuck boys are South African on below deck just

1317
01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, Zarina, they tend to be.

1318
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, She's like, I've got a little crush and she

1319
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.279
<v Speaker 1>she tries real hard. She did this in the other

1320
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:34.439
<v Speaker 1>season that she was on, right, like she likes wrapping

1321
01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:37.239
<v Speaker 1>her legs around him. She's doing everything.

1322
01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I love you. Yeah, she was like I love Sorry,

1323
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 2>that's a clip for next week, Like hello, I love you.

1324
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:47.279
<v Speaker 2>How are you? It's like play it more chill, Yeah,

1325
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 2>nobody wants I mean she yeah, she really is. They

1326
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I loved. Laura said on the ship they were on

1327
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:54.479
<v Speaker 2>before that that Serena had a crush and a guy.

1328
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So she took candy one day and like led this

1329
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:00.000
<v Speaker 2>candy to her room, like laid it on the floor

1330
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like hansoling Gretel with breadcrumbs, and Lara was like rolling

1331
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 2>her eyes. Yeah, She's like, dude, come on.

1332
01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Play a little hard to get.

1333
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have some Yeah, I have some self respect.

1334
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>So she's like throwing herself at him. They play Truth

1335
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 1>or Dare and they kiss and all of this stuff.

1336
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Then it turns out that Marina, one of the one

1337
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of the billion, yeah, one of the stews, also like

1338
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:26.439
<v Speaker 1>has a crush on him, so she like makes her

1339
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:30.159
<v Speaker 1>move and then Zorena's like, she broke girl code and

1340
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he's not.

1341
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Yours, he's not yours.

1342
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 1>It's exactly, there's no code to break here, right, And

1343
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:40.640
<v Speaker 1>they go on a date and they come back and

1344
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:42.119
<v Speaker 1>they make out and she's.

1345
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.239
<v Speaker 2>All like, yeah I did that, blah blah blah, and

1346
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:46.520
<v Speaker 2>we Hunt's like, yeah, that was fun. But I think

1347
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I like a Dare, and a Dare is somebody who

1348
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 2>works for him.

1349
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:54.039
<v Speaker 1>She's just underlings. Yes, it's not appropriate, and she looks.

1350
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 2>I love her because she is so wants to get daffy,

1351
01:11:57.279 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 2>like she's Southern and like everyone saile, like she sniffs

1352
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.279
<v Speaker 2>her armpits and makes a sound or she's she's just goofy.

1353
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:05.720
<v Speaker 2>But she's also like this gorgeous face, like she's really

1354
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 2>beautiful but doesn't play that up at all. Yeah, and

1355
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's part of but she's also somebody who

1356
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.720
<v Speaker 2>works for him. But at the end of the episode, Johnny,

1357
01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.760
<v Speaker 2>who's the Greek guy who lost lost his temper but

1358
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and he think he gets somebody gets kicked off pretty soon.

1359
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:23.359
<v Speaker 2>But Johnny and Adare are looking at a jet ski

1360
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're both like, oh, this has got water in it.

1361
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.479
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's got a leak or something, and we

1362
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Hank goes, nah, that's fine. Yeah, And so Johnny takes

1363
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>one of the passengers out who's afraid, who doesn't know

1364
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:38.319
<v Speaker 2>how to swim, and he takes her. In the end,

1365
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:41.720
<v Speaker 2>it like they basically eat shit in the water. This

1366
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 2>jet ski clips, it flips over, and then they showed

1367
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.760
<v Speaker 2>if they if you go on YouTube, they showed like

1368
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a few minutes for the next episode, and he basically

1369
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:55.479
<v Speaker 2>we Haun is like, so Johnny and a Dare like, yeah,

1370
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.359
<v Speaker 2>this stupid thing like was leaking. We shouldn't have given

1371
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it to somebody, And we Haunt is very snaky and

1372
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:03.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to make it sound like he had this idea

1373
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, I know what to do to fix it.

1374
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:07.239
<v Speaker 2>When it sucked up because of you, dude.

1375
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, well, and he took like Laurie's idea of

1376
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:14.319
<v Speaker 1>the check list for the day, and he just took

1377
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 1>credit for it like it was his idea when it

1378
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was her idea to come up with it. And Harry

1379
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.680
<v Speaker 1>is the one who like told him what would actually

1380
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:27.119
<v Speaker 1>go on the checklist, Like.

1381
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.399
<v Speaker 2>He's a real he didn't know that. Yeah, he's a snake,

1382
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:31.239
<v Speaker 2>so it'll be of.

1383
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Course, And of course he wants the one girl who's

1384
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:38.239
<v Speaker 1>like not interested, right, like but just just move by

1385
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the way.

1386
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah you can't and yeah, no it's not okay,

1387
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:46.720
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, exactly, like that's his immediate reaction.

1388
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 1>What a fucking creep.

1389
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a fun boy.

1390
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you're not watching. You started the new season

1391
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of Severance and you're like, I'm not.

1392
01:13:56.760 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't get into it, So I said to so,

1393
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I'm going to give it a few more

1394
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple more episodes, and then do a binge. Yeah,

1395
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:06.279
<v Speaker 2>because I know people are really into it. I liked

1396
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it last year very much. But it is kind of

1397
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 2>weird and slow too, Like it's just a pace that

1398
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the show has that you kind of have.

1399
01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:16.319
<v Speaker 1>To be in the mood for I loved the first season.

1400
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Loved the first season, thought it was so good, couldn't

1401
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.319
<v Speaker 1>wait for it to come back. And now it's back,

1402
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and I am very much into I'm very interested in

1403
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the part of the idea that somebody would choose to

1404
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.439
<v Speaker 1>like put an implant in their brain so that they

1405
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:39.520
<v Speaker 1>could go to work and not be really themselves for

1406
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like eight hours, to be a totally different person for

1407
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:47.039
<v Speaker 1>eight hours and then go home and not know what

1408
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you did all day. I think the idea of like

1409
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.119
<v Speaker 1>separating they you know, they talk about its like in

1410
01:14:54.279 --> 01:14:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Ease and outis you know. I think all of that

1411
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff is super interesting. But this second season, and I'm

1412
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.600
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not spoiling anything for you, is spending a

1413
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of time on why that company exists and like

1414
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the history of that company and all of the and

1415
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not as really into that hart

1416
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.720
<v Speaker 1>as everyone else seems to be, and they're spending a

1417
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:25.479
<v Speaker 1>lot of time on that stuff, and so I'm finding

1418
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 1>myself less engaged this season. But everyone I know, everyone

1419
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.359
<v Speaker 1>around me is obsessed. And I love a show that

1420
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like you can be as obsessed or not obsessed

1421
01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.119
<v Speaker 1>as you want to be right, Like, I don't excuse me.

1422
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do homework to watch a show,

1423
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like I just want to watch it. But I know

1424
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.239
<v Speaker 1>other people who love that, Like they love to like

1425
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:53.000
<v Speaker 1>dig in and watch all the TikTok takes and you know,

1426
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.960
<v Speaker 1>go in the reddit forums and did you know about

1427
01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 1>this and that and all. I love that that's a

1428
01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:00.720
<v Speaker 1>thing that people can take from a show. I just

1429
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:04.199
<v Speaker 1>want to watch it. But the like history of the

1430
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:07.560
<v Speaker 1>company they work for is less interesting to me than

1431
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the I guess am emotional component of the show. So

1432
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I've been finding myself. Yeah I'm not as connected. Yeah,

1433
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 1>but I I think I might be a outlier, an

1434
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:26.359
<v Speaker 1>outlier on this one, because everyone else I know is

1435
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>quite obsessed. So that's why I was asking you about

1436
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it earlier, because I was like, maybe maybe maybe it's

1437
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's just me. I'm not that special.

1438
01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's other people who are like, fuck that show,

1439
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:43.039
<v Speaker 1>it's up its own ass. But hmm, there are parts

1440
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:45.840
<v Speaker 1>about that. I really I love John Taturo. And by

1441
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, John Taturo is like my favorite part.

1442
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 2>He's so great he's so great.

1443
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:53.600
<v Speaker 1>We just watched The Big Lebowski last weekend.

1444
01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I'm thinking of, right.

1445
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And he's just so fucking good.

1446
01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:05.880
<v Speaker 3>He's she's so good and playing like people and people

1447
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:08.800
<v Speaker 3>who are just a little off like, he's just so

1448
01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:09.920
<v Speaker 3>he's so good.

1449
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I love him. He was in a HBO limited series

1450
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 1>called The Night of Do you remember that one? He

1451
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 1>plays like a lawyer and Riz Ahmed is a guy

1452
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 1>who is like wrongly accused of something, and John Taturo

1453
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:29.479
<v Speaker 1>is the lawyer that represents him. It's the first episode

1454
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:32.319
<v Speaker 1>of it gave me anxiety. It was so fucking good.

1455
01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Highly recommend. The other thing I wanted to talk about

1456
01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:42.159
<v Speaker 1>was the movie Heart Eyes, which just it's called heart

1457
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Eyes like Hearts, like Hearth Heart Heart, and it's like

1458
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a romantic comedy slasher movie. It doesn't think it might

1459
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:57.439
<v Speaker 1>include a few people, you know. Actually it's got in

1460
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:03.239
<v Speaker 1>supporting roles. It's got Jorddane, a Brewster from I'm Sure.

1461
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Dana, Sorry, sorry, now I go somebody his friends with her.

1462
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's in there from the Fast and Furious movies.

1463
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:16.279
<v Speaker 1>And then Beautiful She is beautiful. And then Devin Sawah

1464
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 1>was in he's in it too, both of them in

1465
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:22.520
<v Speaker 1>supporting roles. Is like the cops investigating. But basically it's

1466
01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:28.079
<v Speaker 1>about like there's a there's a slasher running through towns

1467
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and he wears a mask and the mask has like

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01:18:30.399 --> 01:18:33.640
<v Speaker 1>heart eyes, and he kills people on Valentine's Day, people

1469
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:36.199
<v Speaker 1>who are out and like in love, and part of

1470
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:39.880
<v Speaker 1>me is like, I fucking get it whatever, but he

1471
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 1>like mistakes this like these two co workers who actually

1472
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:48.439
<v Speaker 1>don't really get along, he mistakes them for a couple

1473
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and he targets them, and that's kind of the whole

1474
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:55.159
<v Speaker 1>gist of the movie. And then there's like a big

1475
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:58.640
<v Speaker 1>reveal at the end that's like really fucking stupid. And

1476
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I just actively hated it in a way that I

1477
01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 1>haven't hated a movie what wow like. And it was

1478
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>one where I was like, I can't believe I rented this,

1479
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and I really wanted to like it because I think

1480
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:17.039
<v Speaker 1>there's a really good idea here about like the fact,

1481
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like there is a romantic comedy slasher that could be

1482
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>made here, but unfortunately the two leads. It's like the

1483
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:30.039
<v Speaker 1>lead woman is like she plays an ad executive who

1484
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 1>works for like a jewelry company, and she designs this

1485
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:40.319
<v Speaker 1>whole jewelry ad around like like infamous couples who die,

1486
01:19:41.159 --> 01:19:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and then her boss is like, how dare you because

1487
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:48.039
<v Speaker 1>there's this murderer going around killing all these couples. And

1488
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:52.119
<v Speaker 1>she's like and I'm like, girl, read the room, like

1489
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:56.119
<v Speaker 1>did you do any Like she's stupid, She's so stupid,

1490
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and we're supposed to feel sorry for her. And then

1491
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>they bring in some and I'm sorry. His name is

1492
01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Mace Gooding, that's the actor, and he's just like so

1493
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:10.039
<v Speaker 1>like he could be in a Hallmark holiday movie. It's like,

1494
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:14.199
<v Speaker 1>so there's like no chemistry between them. You don't believe

1495
01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>them as a couple, you don't believe them as adversaries.

1496
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I just never believe them at any point. If

1497
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>it was like a real if these were like movie

1498
01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:28.560
<v Speaker 1>stars that you wanted to get together, this movie might

1499
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.279
<v Speaker 1>have worked. But instead I was like, she's an idiot

1500
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's nothing. So I was like, I don't care.

1501
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Devin sa Yes, that's so. Yeah, he's

1502
01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>playing one of the cops, so three cops. Yes, that's yes,

1503
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:55.479
<v Speaker 1>it's just and I really wanted to like it, really

1504
01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:58.199
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to like it. Because I do think there's

1505
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a really good idea here, and I think the casting

1506
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:07.319
<v Speaker 1>let it down and it's got a real dumb ending,

1507
01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Like real dumb.

1508
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Did you pay nineteen ninety nine for it?

1509
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I did? And I hate myself?

1510
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:15.920
<v Speaker 2>You hate? Do you hate yourself? Now? Sorry?

1511
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do hate myself now. I give myself no

1512
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>heart eyes. I did not rent it on Amazon, just

1513
01:21:23.399 --> 01:21:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in case anyone is wondering, because I'm trying not to

1514
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. So I watched it on Apple, which is

1515
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>better or not? Do you decide? But yeah, that's where

1516
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I rented it, and I was like, well, that was

1517
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a fucking mistake, So lesson learned. I have a friend

1518
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>who tried to warn me I should take her advice

1519
01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in the future, so I cannot recommend. I'm sorry everybody.

1520
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I usually like to give us stuff that it's good

1521
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.079
<v Speaker 1>to watch, but there's always.

1522
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Madlock and Elsbeth Yep and Hoosiers.

1523
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there you go. It's a perfect night. Last night,

1524
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I have to say I went to bed in a

1525
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:06.439
<v Speaker 2>really good mood.

1526
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah, it's because it's it's so entertainment. It's

1527
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:15.640
<v Speaker 1>so good. Did you start the Charles Manson documentary at all?

1528
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh, what's that.

1529
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's some new Charles Manson documentary. I

1530
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I have the stomach for it, to

1531
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>be honest.

1532
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.039
<v Speaker 2>So, but they're kind of over Manson. I've I've watched

1533
01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:28.680
<v Speaker 2>so much Manson in my life. It's like who else

1534
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:31.000
<v Speaker 2>is left to talk to? Yeah, you know, once they

1535
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>found Gypsy, I was totally I was totally fine.

1536
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:37.159
<v Speaker 1>They started. I started it and they were like opening

1537
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it with like they were playing one of his songs,

1538
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, I don't want to music.

1539
01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1540
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if you're going to try to like,

1541
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess. I'm like if they're trying

1542
01:22:51.600 --> 01:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to like make him like interesting or like people are

1543
01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like I think his music is really great, like fuck off,

1544
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't. I'm like, I guess, I'm not.

1545
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, I don't give a shit of his music.

1546
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 2>It's good or not, that doesn't mean anything to me.

1547
01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>He was a fucking murderer. He beat women, he he

1548
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:12.079
<v Speaker 2>was a misogynist, He killed people, He had people kill

1549
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:14.880
<v Speaker 2>other people on his behalf. Fuck him. He was a loser,

1550
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>a totally huge, fucking loser. And yeah, I'm over it.

1551
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well. Also, they're like, why why do you think

1552
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:27.640
<v Speaker 1>people followed him? Why do you think he you know,

1553
01:23:27.680 --> 01:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>why would they do his bidding? And I was like,

1554
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, why don't you interview some fucking

1555
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Trump supporters right now and find out why exactly? I

1556
01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't have time for you to go

1557
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>back and talk to fucking Charles Manson people. I'm like,

1558
01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>do one on these weirdoh's right?

1559
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:50.680
<v Speaker 2>The people who actually vote against their interests? Yes, so

1560
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.159
<v Speaker 2>many people once again, like I was on TikTok, and

1561
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>it's people like I voted for him three times. I

1562
01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.479
<v Speaker 2>worked for the Defense Department. I worked from home, and

1563
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>this was my job, and then I got fired and

1564
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm really upset about it because I didn't want that.

1565
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Like who did you want to hurt with your vote?

1566
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>By the way, yeah, you wouldn't mind other people being bactly.

1567
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:13.560
<v Speaker 2>So that's why if we're laughing and you're wondering why

1568
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:17.399
<v Speaker 2>that's it. Yeah, you did it because you thought you

1569
01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:19.319
<v Speaker 2>liked him being a bully. You like the fact that

1570
01:24:19.319 --> 01:24:21.760
<v Speaker 2>he's a bully. Yep. You think he's smart, So you're

1571
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>not very smart, you know, you think he's a good businessman,

1572
01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't. You know, you lack that. I mean you

1573
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>lack empathy. That's a problem. You really lack.

1574
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Empathought he was going to hurt other people.

1575
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:35.319
<v Speaker 2>He was going to hurt the gays, the trans kids,

1576
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>not me.

1577
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, fuck you seriously, fuck you. Did you

1578
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:43.239
<v Speaker 1>see that? My governor has a new podcast and he

1579
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>had Charlie Kirk.

1580
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:48.640
<v Speaker 2>On, and then he's also like, yeah, trans.

1581
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not fair to have trans people playing and sport.

1582
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:54.479
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, fuck you, No, not voting for

1583
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you now.

1584
01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1585
01:24:56.119 --> 01:25:01.239
<v Speaker 1>No, Like, if your platform is hey, let's throw vulnerable, let's.

1586
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Have a conversation with Charlie Kirk, the duest human being alive.

1587
01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Way, we don't need to convince that asshole of shit.

1588
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Why do we have to bridge with him? Why? Why? Why? No,

1589
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>he's wrong, he's fucked up and wrong. No, I don't

1590
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:17.479
<v Speaker 2>have to bridge with that.

1591
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have to either.

1592
01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:20.319
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

1593
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>And if your political strategy is like I'm gonna throw

1594
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:28.199
<v Speaker 1>like vulnerable communities under the bus right so I can

1595
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:34.439
<v Speaker 1>win elections, fuck no, no, yeah, I want to throw

1596
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you into the ocean, like hell no, that is a

1597
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>no for meat dog. I'm not going to vote for you.

1598
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:45.279
<v Speaker 1>And I've been a newsome defender. I have been a

1599
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>big like people talk a lot of shit and I'm like, no, no,

1600
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a desire for public service there, like he's doing

1601
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the best he can and the political no, no, no,

1602
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it. So anyway, and that is I'll

1603
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>just get off my soapbox now and put this aside.

1604
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>There we go.

1605
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1606
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>If you like the sound of our voices after our

1607
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>political rant, you might like our other podcast called what

1608
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a Creep, where we talk about creeps in the past

1609
01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>and the present. Right now, our episode that is out

1610
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>is about the Billionaire Boys Club with a Joe Hunt.

1611
01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Joe Hunt, Mike not Mike Hunt.

1612
01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>It's Joe Hunt. It's the eighties, y'all. We got very

1613
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.079
<v Speaker 2>chueven All with her jokes.

1614
01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Why not you have to you have to so And

1615
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we had a really great non creep at the end

1616
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of that episode. So feel free to join us there.

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01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>And my friend, where can people find you on the Internet?

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01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>You can find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at

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01:26:56.960 --> 01:27:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn Fitchick for Threads and Instagram, and I'm a Brooklyn

1620
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Margo for TikTok and Blue Sky and my YouTube is

1621
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>at my name Margo Donahue.

1622
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Y'all follow her on all the things. Her new book

1623
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>is coming out very soon and she is sharing all

1624
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>kinds of great clips. I can't. I've already pre ordered

1625
01:27:17.560 --> 01:27:18.239
<v Speaker 1>my book.

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01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yeah, I've had a few people tell me

1627
01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thank you, thank you so much because it

1628
01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:27.399
<v Speaker 2>gets the publisher excited. Yeah. If people are getting excited,

1629
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to get to do the audiobook, so.

1630
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone should be getting excited because it's going to

1631
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:38.279
<v Speaker 1>be fucking dope.

1632
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's hope.

1633
01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So it is it is, I know.

1634
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:41.039
<v Speaker 2>So uh.

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01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>You can find me at the Sonya Show dot com

1636
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and the Sonya Show on Blue Sky and threads and

1637
01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Instagram sometimes and TikTok sometimes. And you can find dorking

1638
01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Out at dorkinoutshow dot com. Leave us a review wherever

1639
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts. That would be great help helps

1640
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>us find our people. Somebody left us a review on Apple. Yes,

1641
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it was don in Northern California. She said, I look

1642
01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>forward to the show every week. These are these two

1643
01:28:13.399 --> 01:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>are smart and funny and they love it when Adam

1644
01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>joins the show and they said stay for the Rex

1645
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:22.479
<v Speaker 1>at the end, there's always something fun or thoughtful to learn.

1646
01:28:23.079 --> 01:28:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Ah, thank you.

1647
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Don We appreciate you, Ross Do. We appreciate you.

1648
01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Reviews help us find our people, So thank you for

1649
01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>doing that.

1650
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>If I could tell a friend about the show.

1651
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I would go to Spotify, but Spotify won't

1652
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>let me see. So if you're leaving reviews there, I

1653
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. Thanks for doing that. Or you can also

1654
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.239
<v Speaker 1>email us at Dorking Out Show at gmail dot com.

1655
01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>If you give us your address, Margot will send you

1656
01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>stickers because she's a good human who does that for people.

1657
01:28:57.720 --> 01:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>And we take requests, so you could send us a

1658
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>request quest as well. We've done I think Double Jeopardy

1659
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was a request.

1660
01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:07.159
<v Speaker 2>That we did that like right away too, Like they

1661
01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 2>told us on a Tuesday, and like the next day,

1662
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>we're like, yeah, let's do that one. Yeah.

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01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>We love a request. It makes our dape so easy.

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01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did it with what a creep Actually, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Nathan, he listens to both shows and he gave

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<v Speaker 2>me an idea and it was a week like I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't think of anything, so I just did his and

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<v Speaker 2>he was super psyched about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we love.

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<v Speaker 1>It so fall and dorky and out. Show is also

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<v Speaker 1>on threads and Blue Sky and Instagram and uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's not on TikTok, but I am and Margo is,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could find that there. Margo, thanks for talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Hoosiers with me. This was super fun. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it so much. Hickory Batt