Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody that surely you can't be serious podcast.
We are going to pick up right where we left
off with thirty something guys discussing the Star Wars holiday special.
Time for some trivia on that note, Okay, characters will
show up in other movies?
Speaker 2: Which character from the prequel trilogy? Prequel Trilogy makes a
surprise appearance in Solo. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it
that I got multiple choice, but I feel like you're
gonna know the answer anyway. John's got his hand up.
Anybody else which one?
Speaker 3: Which character from the prequel trilogy?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Shows up in Solo?
Speaker 2: Yes, John has to answer last, given that he's the
eleven Ye. Okay, Pat, what do you think Darth Maul?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's it.
Speaker 4: You got it?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, you got that one.
Speaker 2: I could have got that one.
Speaker 3: I didn't think.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. So we were talking masks earlier. Mala's mask
was repurposed from a Chewbacca mask from the original film,
and the actress that played Mallard was not an actress.
It was a man baby.
Speaker 6: They couldn't.
Speaker 7: Used to.
Speaker 2: Or what. Yeah, So the actor's name is Mickey Morton,
and he was not only Mala, he was also Torque.
And he was also Chief Gormanda's second pair of arms.
Speaker 3: And I wonder he was reluctant to give it Urt
Carney a kiss.
Speaker 2: Already been hugging on the back of Carvey Korman.
Speaker 3: Okay, do we want to talk about Mark Hamill in makeup?
Speaker 2: He had some guyliner going on, didn't he?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Have you seen That's terrible?
Speaker 2: It's really bad. Have you seen the pictures where they
like change the characters from Star Wars into the opposite gender,
where like uh luke and yeah are made to look
like their women. When I saw this, I was like,
holy crap, this is where they got the idea, because
he's he's got some major makeup going on in this one.
Speaker 9: Well, and I felt a little bad. Like one of
the first times I saw that, I was like, what
did they do? Like why did they just they?
Speaker 4: They? They?
Speaker 9: I don't know, He's got at least like seven coats on,
Like the first couple didn't take so they just kept going.
And but then I kind of felt bad about that
because I'm like, then I read up something on it
and they're like well, it could have been because he
was in that really bad car accident and he needed
to have some additional makeup or yeah, so that maybe
I read something. I don't know how valid that is
or how accurate that is, but one of the things
I read said he was in such heavy makeup because
he had been in that near fatal car crash in
Oh gosh, it was right. It was not long after,
or actually right before Star Wars came out in seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was the year before.
Speaker 3: See that's yeah, I don't buy that for one second,
because you don't need eye liner to cover facial scars,
and he didn't wear all that crap and then fire
strikes back.
Speaker 4: Yep, you guys are right.
Speaker 2: It's January of seventy seven is when he into that accident.
Speaker 9: But now just a terrifying amount of makeup, so orange
he looks like franken Furder from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Speaker 3: Can we talk? Are we ready to talk about Carrie
Fisher singing voices.
Speaker 4: We sa way.
Speaker 5: Ho day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I loved it, Yeah, I loved it. And I loved
that she looked like she was as high as a
king too. She's stone out of her gourd.
Speaker 3: Listen, this is the last time that Carrie Fisher smiled
in any Star Wars anything. She was sad and Empire
strikes back. She was sad and returned the Jedi. She
was at least happy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that that scene in particular,
that was probably the the only for me, the only
couple of segments or scenes that made some of it bearable.
Like if I was gonna fast forward and I know,
I don't remember who it was earlier, that might have
been Dentis or I somebody else was saying to me,
I don't know.
Speaker 4: The b Arthur scene.
Speaker 9: If you take out the weird you know, sexual harassment
from the guy who drinks through his head. If you
take that out, to me, that wasn't even a bad scene.
I mean, if you're gonna do you're gonna do something
in the Star Wars canteena at least that one takes
place in a Star Wars location, and you've got Star
Wars characters. Like some of the other acts, they're not
they're completely devoid of Star Wars. Like you could remove
it from the Star Wars Holiday special, dump dump it
in some other holiday special and it would have been
totally fine. So the b Arthur song like that was
actually one of my I don't want to say favorite,
that's really too strong of a word, but that was
that was one of the most tolerable parts parts of
this whole thing. And then the Princess Leah part too.
Like everything else, I totally tossed that out the window.
Those to me, that in the in the bolb of
Het cartoon, which I'm sure we'll talk about too, but
those are really like the only three parts that I'm
even quasi okay with in this whole thing.
Speaker 2: I kind of dig the Jefferson Starship song I thought
that was and it kind of looks like he's trying
to impale his head with a lightsaber while he's singing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if only they would have sung we built this city.
That would have helped.
Speaker 4: They could have switched up there.
Speaker 9: They probably didn't want to spoil anything, but they could
have done we built cloud City.
Speaker 3: Oh, that would have been great.
Speaker 5: Man would be nice.
Speaker 2: That would have been nice.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I thought was funny. Okay, So,
mister star Wars gig John, does it bother you that
they called the wikie planet Kazook the whole time.
Speaker 9: Well yeah, I mean yeah, I kind of I kind
of knew about that, so I just kind of was like,
all right, all right, it had never been mentioned before.
Well we'll chalk this up as a well, I'm just
gonna chalk it up as a hand han Leah Leah.
Speaker 4: Kazuk kashik. We'll just do that.
Speaker 9: It's people don't know how to pronounce names in the
Star Wars universe, so I'm totally fine.
Speaker 3: With the death of that stormtrooper would not be noticed
apparently by anyone.
Speaker 10: It's like, I'm gonna say, the one thing that helped
is when Hans solok the one thing that made me laugh.
Hansol was like, oh wow, what did he say? He
said something like they're gonna see him down there, or
they're gonna find him eventually or something and or whatever
his comment was. It was just his offhand like oh yeah,
and then he just picks up.
Speaker 5: The gun and just kind of drops it over. Why
was that so funny to be?
Speaker 10: I don't know, but he's just like, oh yeah, they're
gonna find those guys who drops the gun.
Speaker 3: Okay, you do get a great willem scream right before
that storm yes to his death.
Speaker 11: So I'm just wondering how the investigation is going to
go when they go up there and they find the
guy that was left with them to watch them, and
they see the broken railing. Yeah, yeah, and he's the
last place he was at and they're like, where did
he go?
Speaker 6: Well, that our Carney story is really gonna hold.
Speaker 10: I was waiting for the Imperials to show up and
demand Prema Nacta with you know, with the wookies. The
Emperor has dissolved the Senate and reinstituted Prima Nacta with
all non humanoid species.
Speaker 4: The trouble, the trouble with Kashik is it's full of wookies.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. That's what we're gonna have to do.
We're gonna have to recut this far Worth Holiday Special
and shirt all of the dialogue from Brave Heart.
Speaker 3: I think, nice, we need to and we need to
take the Star Wars Holiday Special and put it into
the Brave Heart. Have somebody going stir whipster whip sip whip.
Speaker 2: Okay, trivia question, This is actually pretty easy. Who is
the only stop Who is the only actor to have
appeared in every theatrical Star Wars film.
Speaker 5: Is it the C three po character? Is it Anthony Daniels.
Speaker 3: I guess that is?
Speaker 10: Now are we counting with the theatrical? Does that count
like Solo and Rogue One?
Speaker 5: Yep, I'm trying and see. It's funny because I vaguely
remember C three p Oo in Rogue One. I don't
know if I remember him in Solo?
Speaker 6: Wasn't Where was it when they went to that?
Speaker 4: He might not have been in Solo.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's that trivia question. Maybe just like you or Solo.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know who was in Solo?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 3: Mala Mala was in Solo?
Speaker 5: Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 6: When they were Yes?
Speaker 9: Was she supposed to be that Wookie that Chewbacca kind
of like he touches heads with before they separate.
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 10: Okay maam wow wow, Well that proves it.
Speaker 5: The Christmas Special is canonical Star Wars.
Speaker 3: It is. I had this argument with my son right
before I came up here or not. He's like, this
is crap. This is not Cannon. I'm like, this is cannon.
He's like, no, it's not. I'm like, yes it is.
Speaker 10: So I'll say, this is such an interesting this is
this is like a time capsule if the only thing
that existed in this whole world was just Star Wars
the movie, not even thinking of it as Star Wars
episode for a New Hope, but just Star Wars like like,
and everything else didn't exist. Like if you put some
dude on a desert island and just gave him Star
Wars and said and cocaine and said come up with something.
Speaker 5: But it it's just interesting.
Speaker 10: Because it's like all the last forty five years of
everything else that has been written and created doesn't exist.
Speaker 5: It I'll give it that.
Speaker 10: It is an interesting insight into you know, when Star
Wars was kind of raw and not as you know,
hashed out.
Speaker 9: All right, so I found it. Anthony Daniels was in Solo.
He was not C three po oh wow. He played
a corroscanti human male who was a slave working in
the spice minds of Kessel In Solo, his characters his
character's name was tack Nice.
Speaker 2: So who was he in Rogue one?
Speaker 9: Rogue three po was in like for like two seconds
in Rogue one, just as everybody's taken off at the
end and they make some comment about like we're the
last to hear about anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't everything now more adventures?
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's talk about this.
Speaker 2: The cartoon cartoon is big because it is the first
appearance of Bob Effect.
Speaker 3: What do you guys like the cartoon, John, do you think.
Speaker 9: Other than the animation being a little wonky? I thought
it wasn't bad like it was, you know, for a
kid's cartoon, totally fine as an adult watching it, Like, Wow,
you guys are really trusting of this masked bounty hunter,
like real fast, Like I don't know any anybody keeps
calling me friend too often, and he's carrying this big gun,
and you know, wants to be my friend, and it
seems to have some ulterior motives here. I don't know
that I'm gonna question that a little bit, but I
Luke going to be as trusting as he wants to be.
But yeah, no, I thought it was fine. I thought
it was fine being the first. I think this is
actually also the first Star Wars animation ever. I don't
think there was ever any other animated.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean after this, in.
Speaker 9: The nectandition, you would have had like droids and ewoks
and you know, some of those other cartoons that would
come out later. Yeah, other other than the animation being
a little weird, I'm fine with it. And and it's
the first time we get you know, now that we've
had the Mandalorian, it's the first time we get the
amb and phase rifle and all that other stuff. And
I mean, even which is funny, you see. I know
some people have kind of argued, like the movies that
Boba Feed is in, you know, before the special editions,
and it was really just Empire Strikes Back and Return
of the Jedi. Does he really do that much that
proves that he's such a you know, cool guy that
everybody says he is in the movies. No, not really,
not necessarily. I mean he kind of gets taken out
like a chump in Return of the Jedi. And other
than being able to you know, follow somebody other than
tailing somebody in his car, he really doesn't do a
whole lot in Empire Strikes Back to just show just
how cool he is. In this one, I mean, he's
he's riding a dinosaur.
Speaker 2: I started watching it, and as Luke lands on whatever
planet it is he's going to, suddenly there's a dragon
that comes out of the ground, it starts attagging him
and then whatever it has to escape dives back into
the ground, And I just thought, did they totally get
this for the first episode of season two of Mandalorian?
Speaker 9: Well, because I think I think John Favreau and Dave Filoni,
you know who are are running and directing Mandalorian. I
think they've said several times that there are there's quite
a bit of stuff that was inspired by this cartoon.
It was called The Faithful Wookie, I think is the
title of this cartoon, and I think they've said, yeah,
there's several things like especially the gun, but some of
the other stuff is directly from the holiday special that
they've tried to put into The Mandalorian.
Speaker 3: The Skeleton and the creak Dragon is in a New Hope.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and even even Life Day Life Day gets referenced
in the first episode of The Mandalorian.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I need to do unless.
Speaker 9: There was that first guy, that first guy that the
Mandalorian is trying to catch when he first goes into
that one bar, and it's the Blues guy. I forget
what his name is, and he captures him and he
says something about you know, I just I got to
try to be home in time.
Speaker 4: For Life Day or something.
Speaker 9: And I think that was the first other that was
the first ever other than the holiday special that ever
gets mentioned. So that's why you know, at the time
Life Day they kind of imply it's just a Wookie
thing in this one, but in the Mandalorian, now you've
kind of gotten the idea that it's probably more than
just Wookie. So that's I really would have in hindsight
obviously twenty twenty, but I would have really liked to
have just explored Life Day a little bit more. But
that's getting off from the Boba Fet cartoon. No, I
really I dig the Boba Fet cartoon.
Speaker 10: I like it, and I don't know if you guys
are going to jump into it. I'm curious who thought
up of who thought of Bob Effet, Like I'd love
to know, like a like Joe.
Speaker 9: Johnston, guy that directed The Rocketeer did Captain America. He
designed Boba Fett and based him off of those like
King of the Rocketmen and some of those old movies.
You know, he loved those old movies and that was
he was the one responsible. He did a lot of
the like I don't remember if did he do part
of the design for the Millennium Falcon, which I know
would get you excited, Pat, but he I know he
designed Boba Fette and then and that's why.
Speaker 4: That's why.
Speaker 9: Then ultimately, like when he had the opportunity to direct
The Rocketeer later on, he's like, sign me up this,
this is my bag, baby, And.
Speaker 11: Some of the texts leading up to this this podcast,
somebody had referenced that sexual harassment things.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was thinking, like, we refer to that, we
refer to that as R two me too, Speaking of
which I did look up a picture. They had some
of the prototypes for the action figures for the Holiday special,
and the only prototypes they made were Chewbacca's family, and
basically all it is is it's the I don't know
if you guys ever had the like the classic just
the first round like Phase one action figures that came
out after after Star Wars. It's the class Chewbacca action figure.
And basically the difference is they've just kind of colored
each one a little differently, so it's it's Chewbacca and
then it's like they've shrunk down Chewbacca for Lumpy and
that the coloring is a little bit lighter. And then
they've got another Chewbacca and they've taken off the bandolier
and they've just colored his head white and the rest
of him is brown. And then Mala is basically Chewbacca
colored a very light tan with a little bit of
how shall I say, test articulation, and so it's it
makes looking at them, and I haven't zoomed in on
the picture, and I really don't want to.
Speaker 4: It's a little awkward. It's a litt awkward.
Speaker 9: The other thing they said, I was reading this article here,
and they said that one of the things that they
never made a prototype of, but they had sketched out
was a toy of Boba the Sea Serpent that Boba
fet is writing on there. So they had plans to make.
Of course, they made Boba fet prototypes and had the
original ones were colored the way he's colored in this
holiday special, and then they did Chewbacca's family, and then
they were planning to do a sea serpent toy. And
then they got the reviews of the show and Kenner's
just like, nope, pull the plug.
Speaker 7: Start, let's talk about the final scene.
Speaker 3: The final We waited an hour and twenty minutes for
Chewbacca to show up at home. The Imperials have just
trashed Lumpy's room. They're looking for rebel stuff. They can't
find anything. Art Carney is trying his best to help out.
Han and Chewy show up. As soon as Chewy shows up,
he's taken under gunpoint to protect Lumpy, and Han wax
the gun out of the Stormtrooper's hand and then the
stormtrooper trips over some firewood falls to his death. And
then Han proceeds to tell Chewbacca's family how much they
mean to him. It's this very touching moment. Then they're
off to hear Princess Leah scene. What do you guys
think about that final scene?
Speaker 10: I I just, I mean, how hard is it to
have a somewhat decent fight like, I mean, they weren't
even asking for a long fight scene. I mean that
could have redeemed some of it if if there would
have been a little bit of a of a fights
you know, I mean there, uh, I know, I know
I'm kind of missing the point, but I mean, you know,
have something where Chewbacca picks up the guy and chucks
him over or I mean, heck, you know what just
drop in you know, drop in the scene from the
Death Star when they get into the shootout where you know,
they bring Chewy in and they're they're trying to break into.
Speaker 5: The look out. He's loose like that. Just drop that in.
I would have enjoyed watching that again, Like.
Speaker 11: And they're just going to come in and save the
day and wrap it up for the kids, the little kids.
You know, it was like because they can't make it
too violent, is what it seemed like. But then at
the same time you had all those other weird things
going on, So where were the thoughts of the kids,
you know, like, can't show them any violence here, but
we can definitely throw in the sexual harassment.
Speaker 2: In the uh Eleen Horn and all that. Yeah, softcore porn.
Speaker 4: Yeahah.
Speaker 9: I do want to say what redeems that that fight
scene for me is the fact that the Stormtrooper did
perform the Wilhelm scream as he did fall over the railing.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's something we didn't really talk about.
What do you guys think about the sort of at
the beginning, you have the hologram chess board that they
had in Star Wars where they played Kuss, and then
you have all these weird circus performers that doesn't even
thought that would be a good idea.
Speaker 2: We have to take what should have been a thirty
minute episode and expanded into two hours.
Speaker 6: What can we do? Yeah, nothing seemed connected, that was
what it was so weird. You could literally make you know,
just nothing was connected.
Speaker 2: And talking about not connected during the cartoon. Suddenly in
the middle of the cartoon we get a voice which
almost sounds like Captain James T. Kirk saying starlog and
then explain it going on in Boba FET's head. I'm
just like, where did that guy come from? Why is
why are we saying starlog?
Speaker 5: Who? What my last thought on Boba Fet?
Speaker 10: Because I know you said he really didn't have much
of a role in that original trilogy, and that's why
I was wondering who wrote that character, because somehow he
managed to capture our attention, and I mean the fan
favorite kind of like not even cult status, but like
that was a fan favorite aspect of Star Wars to
even before the prequels came out. People were like, man,
that was such a cool character, and really that's how
you kill him off?
Speaker 5: Han bumps him and he flies Like that's not right.
Speaker 10: And I just think it's cool that you have a
character like that that was able to capture fandom's feelings
about it something that came out in the cartoon. And
I mean, like, if I had to pick one thing
that I enjoyed in this Bobaffect cartoon, right, Like, I
just think that's cool that, you know, whatever, that character
was able to attain like mystical status with not a
lot of material. And that's where like now with Mandalorian
and everything, we're going cuckoo for Cocoa puffs because like, wow,
we get to see more of this character.
Speaker 3: You're right, we've waited since nineteen eighty or nineteen seventy
eight for Boba Fet to do something, and last week
he finally did. That's forty years. Yeah, that's forty years
of capturing our attention.
Speaker 10: So kind of my earlier point, see where the Boba
Fet character the cartoon came from. I mean, I just like,
I didn't know hardly anything about this until I heard, Hey,
you know, the Surely podcast wants to do and have
you guys.
Speaker 5: For the Star Wars special.
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys have talked about the
Star Like I literally knew nothing about this till about
a week ago, right, So somehow I was, you know, able,
and then they said, well, it's the origination.
Speaker 5: Of origin of of of of Boba fet and it's like, well, dang,
that's pretty cool. So I would say the Boba Fat cartoon,
you know.
Speaker 10: And I know we've kind of had mixed reviews on
Carrie Fisher singing and like I said, I mean singing
as Princess Leah, Okay, that was a little bit like okay,
But I mean, you know, sometimes we've got movies that
come out now where actors or actresses are trying to
sing in the movies. And then the second thing is
then you've got some movies where it's like, no, they
can really sing. They they got to, you know, they can,
they can bring it.
Speaker 5: It's just they've never had a role yet. And so
I don't know.
Speaker 10: I always like to I always like to see that
extra dimension of certain actors and actresses. And I always
frame it with no one's hiring me to do any
kind of professional singing, No one's hiring me to do any.
Speaker 5: Kind of professional trumpet playing.
Speaker 10: So I say that humbly because it's like I don't
have any Christmas specials that I'm singing on. But that
was kind of like a Oh, that's just cool to
see her, you know, in a different light.
Speaker 4: Pat.
Speaker 9: The fact that you I know I can say this
to you, and I almost want to apologize that up
until a week ago, you were still pure as the
driven snow, and you haven't seen this yet. I know
that you are also a church going person, So I'm
just gonna put it this way, Pat. In Matthew Chapter eighteen,
it says, whoever causes one of these little ones to sin,
it would be better for him to have a great
millstone fastened around his neck and be drowned in the
depth of the seat. I feel a little bit of
responsibility for having you watch this now when a week
ago you were just fine.
Speaker 10: Hey, you know what's It's better to know what's out
there before, you know, I grow up and leave the house,
and then, you know, it's better that I experience it
with you, John, where it's a place of safety before
I leave the house and have to face that in
it they you know, in the dangers of the world, we.
Speaker 4: Have a safe word in his life. Day.
Speaker 2: That's right, Hey, Pat, I got something for you, since
this was your favorite part. The voice of Boba Fett
is a guy named Don Franks who hasn't really done
a whole lot of stuff. I mean he did a
whole lot of stuff, but nothing spectacular. But he was
also a jazz musician and really good jazz musician from
what I have read, so maybe something to check out.
Don Franks spelled f R A n.
Speaker 5: C K S Don Franks.
Speaker 10: All right, hey man, thank you, like seriously, when we're
when we're run here tonight, I'm gonna, uh, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna check that out. Yeah, right on, that's cool, thank you?
Speaker 11: All right, Dennis, anything worthwhile, I would just not not
really much. I mean this this, but if you've heard
our podcast, I mean this makes if I had a
choice between this and Howard the Dog, I mean I
might watch Howard the Dog.
Speaker 5: Whoa, oh wow, whoa.
Speaker 6: I couldn't. I couldn't sit through this again.
Speaker 4: Wow because you I mean.
Speaker 10: When you got angry and left the podcast, you you
rage cast.
Speaker 6: I couldn't sit through this again at this moment.
Speaker 11: If you told me you have to sit through another
movie that's going to be about hour and a half
long or two hours of either Howard the Duck or
it's this right now, having watched this, watched this just
so so recently, it would have to be howerd the Duck.
Speaker 10: You stopped out of you like you like left during
Howard the Duck and came back and we're just like
you didn't even.
Speaker 5: Sound you were just sitting there during our podcast, just
like the Duck.
Speaker 9: Like I had to do a lot of editing. I
had to do a lot in that episode because you
dropped a couple of f bombs and then you walked.
Speaker 2: One of the quotes about this show is that is
the not one of, but the worst two hours of
television and television industry. And so I think this is
a great measuring stick. If you picked the movie or
movies that you hated most and had to choose between
that or this movie, which one would you watch? And
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about Showgirls and I'm thinking about
Jaws three. I think I would pick Holiday Special above
those two Showgirls. Okay, that's fine, I might watch Josh,
I might watch Jaws three before Holiday Special, but I
would never ever ever watch Showgirls again. If you had,
if you had, okay, I've got pinking shears. You can
lose a toe or watch Showgirls. I'd have to think
about it for a little.
Speaker 3: Show Girls is terrible.
Speaker 2: It's worse.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I had to pick between Kindergarten
Cop two and this.
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, there is Cop two.
Speaker 6: Yes, movies are coming out now.
Speaker 3: You had to pay a whole bunch of money and
late fees for Kindergarten Cop two?
Speaker 4: Right, what?
Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a thing.
Speaker 4: The year was twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6: But you didn't get through the roof? What did you
get through the room?
Speaker 5: John?
Speaker 11: Though, that's what we what you were talking about. You
did the pad we kind of did to you at
the room.
Speaker 4: Yes, I got through the room. Thank you. Dennis.
Speaker 6: Here's where he gets angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what the actual.
Speaker 4: Hang don't don't do it, don't and don't tell me.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, don't look into the trap. Ray, don't look
into the trap I looked at for ego.
Speaker 9: Let's pretend that you and I are Let's pretend that
you and I are tied up to a steak. Don't
look at it, Marion, your eyes shut, don't look at it. No,
I made I made like twenty twenty maybe two minutes,
twenty two minutes into that movie. It was a It
was a weekend where my wife was going to be
gone for the weekend, and I went to the library
and I checked out a whole bunch of movies. I
was like, I guess I'm time to watch some movies now,
and yeah, I started that one, got twenty two and
it's into it. No, no, this is not good. I
will rarely turn off a movie, and especially I'll normally
give it even longer than that. But I was like, nope,
wasting my time. I'll move on to something else. And
then I thought I returned it to the library until
like a month and a half later when I ended up.
Speaker 4: Having to pay light feet. Stupid movie.
Speaker 10: I really, honestly, I struggle with the movie Pearl Harbor.
That's the one the guys always give me a hard
time with. I struggle with that one on several levels.
And I don't want to take everyone's time and just
go on go on a rant with that one. But
that's one that's I mean, I can't even like cringe
watch it. It's just like, okay, I'm.
Speaker 5: Down, I'm out.
Speaker 10: And that's one that i'll that's one that I'll turn off.
And if it's someone's favorite show. Like, hey, that's fine,
it just didn't work for me. That's all I'm gonna say. Like,
I want to be careful of that that deal.
Speaker 2: But okay, so if you get a pick between Star
Wars Holiday Special and Pearl Harbor, which one are you
going to watch?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 10: See, you know what, Honestly I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh. I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh, and like the Pearl Harbor one,
like I just start to get like kind of angry.
But but yeah, the Star Wars one because I could laugh.
And I mean seriously, like even like the you know
when Itchy Bun or whatever the bookie's name was that
was watching the the thing is just.
Speaker 5: Like, oh my gosh, this is really inappropriate. You know,
like I can kind of I could kind of find
the humor in that whole thing, you know.
Speaker 2: So Okay, Jason, Star Wars Holiday Special or Last Action Hero.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I really dislike Last Action Hero. But the
movie that I hate is The Last Jedi.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: Wow, I have a very emotional response to the Last Jedi.
They took something I loved and they turned it against me.
So I will take the Star Wars Holiday Special over
the Last Jedi.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, Wow, I understand that was made at a better quality,
but I still get Luke as Luke. I don't get
Luke as bitter old man.
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 10: Is that what you were referencing before, the thing that
you felt kind of turned against you, is how Luke
was bitter old man?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a real strong reaction to the Last JEDNI.
So I know you guys have been okay with it.
I'm not okay with it.
Speaker 5: So got it now?
Speaker 3: I'm still mad about it. So sounds like it's yeah.
Speaker 2: I was really I was going to say I didn't
even think about the Rise of Skywalker that I got
that right name right this time?
Speaker 4: Right? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Rise of Skywalker is my hated Star Wars movie,
and I'm sitting here thinking myself would have watched Holiday Special. Yeah,
I'd pick Holiday Special over Rise of Skywalker as well.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 4: What is the d what? What is Rise of Skywalker?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 6: What movie is it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I've never I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 2: Good good, just block it out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't even know what you I don't even
know what you're talking about. I mean, is it is
it part of the is it one of the anthology
ones or is it part of the eight canonical movies.
Speaker 3: It's one of the Yeah, it's not one of the
seven movies.
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay. I would love to see them do some
kind of holiday special with the Mandalorian, like if they
wanted to bring back some more of this Life Day stuff.
I mean, if they wanted to have and I know
with their seasons, they've only got like ten episodes per season,
so it's not like, you know, you don't want to necessarily,
you know, chunk in a whole a whole episode just
working on Life Day stuff. But I don't know with
these different anthology things that they're putting out. I know
they just did a Lego Star Wars holiday special. I
haven't seen that one yet. I'm sure my kids will
want to watch it at some point. I think it
just came out maybe a few weeks ago. Sure, we'll
watch that. But I would love to see the whole
idea of Life Day Lord in some way in some
of these shows, whether it's I don't know whether it's
in Kenobe, whether it's in the and or series with
whatever it is, like, I would like to see this
come back because I think there's some merit to the idea,
like the concept of the whole thing is just it's
completely wasted on this because this is you know, and
I said it earlier, it's not a good holiday special,
even separate from the Star Wars. If it was just
any kind of holiday special, it's not a good holiday special.
It's not good Star Wars. So it's really not good
anything but the idea of there being a holiday, and
especially if you wanted to tie that into like the
overall mythology of Star Wars, I mean, tie it into
the Force. And that's what I'm really curious about is
that even though in the original trilogy everybody seems to
have forgotten about the Jedi and the Force and nobody
seems to know anything, you have a holiday like Life Day.
So what is Life Day celebrating like it a Is
it a religious thing? Is it a you know, part
of this Jedi mysticism? I mean, how how tied into
all of it is the idea of Life Day. So
I mean I'd be really curious to see that it.
Speaker 6: Could be something with the Wookie history.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I know Fabroas joked about doing redoing this
or doing not redoing that exact story, but it would
I would totally be up for that see him do
an updated sub set somehow holiday special, because it wouldn't
look anything really like that, but like you said, it
would take some of the interesting concepts that were possibly
introduced him here. And I think he would do him
justice because he being a fan. And also I think
you would do a pretty decent job with it.
Speaker 5: Just popped up. Someone just my sister just sent me
a text.
Speaker 10: The Mandalorian Special to debut on Disney Plus on Christmas Day,
Get out of Here just popped up.
Speaker 4: It's the well, but it's not like.
Speaker 5: A holiday no no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: You know, Disney does the Disney Gallery show that they
do where they do like behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 4: For their different some of their different shows.
Speaker 9: It's that one they're going to do like a I
don't know if it's like a holiday themed Disney Gallery
Mandalorian episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, everything I'm looking at just looks like a regular
I'm just saying it was kind of funny because you like,
I'd like to see a Mandalorian like Christmas special. And
then all of a sudden, my text just came in
from my sister that said Disney plus Mandalorian Special.
Speaker 5: It was like, wow, John, you really are on eleven.
This is amazing.
Speaker 3: That an eleventh level right there.
Speaker 9: It's like Doctor Who. It's like Doctor Who. They wait
till the season's over and then at Christmas they always
have a Christmas special. It could be the Mandalorian Christmas Special.
Speaker 3: They know Mandalorian because at the end of last Jedi
was like, they have no idea what they're doing. Disney
is clueless. But I'm back on track.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah with the movies.
Speaker 3: Thank you, John Favreau.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, Between John Favreau and Dave Filoni, like they
if they want to, you know, whatever you want to
hand over to Dave Todave Filoni and John Favreau, go ahead, seriously,
I'm with you. Before we wrapped up, did you see
the other stuff on the Rogue Squadron movie? And how
is it Catherine Bigelow is directing that one. O. Yeah,
she's going to do a Rogue Squadron movie.
Speaker 3: And she does great wharf stuff right No, no, no.
Speaker 9: Not Catherine Bigelow, that wrong director Patty Jenkins, Wonder Woman director.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh okay, And she.
Speaker 9: Has this great there was this great video that she
put out, so maybe about a week ago now she
has this great video put out where she's she's like
rollerblading down what looks like a runway and then she
gets to her car and she sits down in like
the back of the car, and she's taken off her
roller blades, and she's talking about how her dad had
been a pilot and that he I think, she says,
he lost his life serving our country and all this.
She kind of goes into the stuff and she's like,
I've been looking for a movie where I feel like
I could do service to how he served our country
and what that meant to him and what that meant
to our family and his sacrifice. And then she says,
and I finally found the movie that will allow me
to do that. And she reaches behind her and she
puts on an x Wing pilot's helmet, and then she
stands up from the car and she walks down the
runway and the camera turns and she's walking towards an
x Wing and then and then they make the announcement
that she's doing a it will actually be the next
theatrical Star Wars movie, and it's right now it's just
titled Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a release date at this point of
December of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That conversation right there is better than the Star Wars Special.
Speaker 2: Yeah fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that that like two minute, three minute whatever it
is video that she does. That'll make up for watching
the Star Wars Holiday Special.
Speaker 3: Guys, Thank you so much for joining us. We are
so thankful for you, guys, and thank you for being
mentors and being friends, and thanks for taking the time
to join us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody, be sure and go check out the thirty
something Movie Podcast. We're about to move into nineteen ninety one.
Any movie you're excited about.
Speaker 9: Well, I've got Pat levels excite of excitement for our
first one coming up in January. Because Pat, when we
first started the you guys have probably heard this story,
but a bunch of times when we first started the
podcast back in eighty or back in twenty fifteen, and
we were in eighty four eighty five, like, guys, what
movies are you excited for? And somebody said back to
the Future, and somebody said something else. Pat goes Batman.
Hold on, that's four years from now. Buddy, but I know,
I don't care Batman, all right, that's fine. So then
when I started actually paying attention to the different movies
that were coming up, I was like, wait a minute,
ninety one, that's The Rocketeer, all right, cool, So yeah,
that's that's probably the one for me. That's our first
episode of ninety one is going to be The Rocketeer.
And then from there we've we've got a whole bunch
of like our first few months, We've got The Rocketeer,
We've got Double Impact, Like that was a fun one
to watch. I had never seen Double Impact before. We've
got in the span of like two or three months,
we've done Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles two,
and we even did was that back in November we
did the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Coming out of their
Shells tour. So it's been like a it's been like
a trifecta of Ninja Turtles for the last few months
for us. But uh, yeah, we've we've got some we've
got some good stuff coming up, and some good stuff
on our Patreon episodes too.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do Clash of the Titans.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, I started for Clash of the Titans though.
Speaker 9: Okay, so as long as we never do The Last
Jedi as part of our Patreon episodes, we will have
taken one Patreon person we didn't offend.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, show Girls, Yeah.
Speaker 4: No show Girls, no Last Jedi? All right, got that,
but no.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you guys so much for having us on here.
I mean, it's it's always we we love talking movies
and we've loved getting to know you guys and having
you on our show and being on your show, and
you know it, any I mean, I think you just
reached out to us like two days ago, and the
moment you said, I mean, you could have said any
movie at all, but the fact that you said, hey,
we're talking Star Wars Holiday Special, and the first thought
that popped into my mind was good lord, I hate
that thing.
Speaker 4: But yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Well, guys, Thank you so much. Great to see you guys,
and Merry Christmas to you, and we'll see you on
the other side of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see you next year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you guys.
Speaker 6: Nice to meet you guys. Thank you you guys.
Speaker 5: It's great seeing you guys again.
Speaker 2: Bye guys,