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Speaker 1: review of the Dynasty Guru positional rankings. So, Chris, have
Speaker 1: you been And today we're going to talk about some
Speaker 1: post hype prospect?
Speaker 2: Would you rather? You ready for that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I'm actually pretty excited because I you know,
Speaker 3: I like to shop at Goodwill and this isn't quite
Speaker 3: the good will discussion of prospects, but you know, bargain
Speaker 3: beIN sort of deal.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't figured out what we've done is
Speaker 1: we've compiled a list of players who at one time
Speaker 1: or another have been hyped up as prospects and maybe
Speaker 1: didn't make the first impression we'd hoped for this year.
Speaker 1: The question is will they still break out or is
Speaker 1: this who they are? We've come up with we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about hitters today. We've come up with fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen names, and we're going to kind of pair
Speaker 1: them off, and then would you rather format? And you know,
Speaker 1: the big question being you've got two guys here. If
Speaker 1: you have to keep one and cut one on your
Speaker 1: dynasty roster, which one are you keeping? So we're gonna
Speaker 1: jump right in and we're gonna start off with a bang.
Speaker 1: These are two headliners.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: There was no question that they've been hyped and and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're not saying it's undeserved by the way,
Speaker 1: we're just saying maybe hype delayed. But these are two
Speaker 1: names that you heard a lot about last year and
Speaker 1: have not heard a lot about over the course of
Speaker 1: the season in terms of their statistics. But they are
Speaker 1: Victor Scott the second and noelbe Marte and noelve and
Speaker 1: Marte missed part of the season due to his suspension,
Speaker 1: and Victor Scott spent most of his season in the minors. So, Chris,
Speaker 1: what do you think of these two guys and you
Speaker 1: can only keep one in your roster for next year,
Speaker 1: which one is it going to be?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to say it's sunk cost fallacy,
Speaker 3: but I have a lot of shares of Noelvie and
Speaker 3: he's more of the profile I would say entering the
Speaker 3: twenty four season, he's more of the profile that I like,
Speaker 3: more known power in the bat and then the speed
Speaker 3: to supplement as opposed to the VS. Two game of
Speaker 3: a lot of speed and mostly a what noodle type
Speaker 3: bat questionable. So noelv has been the bigger disappointment, I
Speaker 3: would say, you know, you had the the PD suspension
Speaker 3: the spring, and then he has not let the world
Speaker 3: on fire since coming back. As we're obviously highlighting him here,
Speaker 3: but I would still lean to his more complete game,
Speaker 3: or what we assume to be a complete game going forward,
Speaker 3: carrying the profile. I can listen to a Victor Scott argument, though,
Speaker 3: if that's what you're gonna come with, because you know,
Speaker 3: the flashing red flag that avoid avoid signed for Marte
Speaker 3: is the fact that he was busted for performance enhancing
Speaker 3: drugs and since he got in trouble for that, he
Speaker 3: has not been performing, so it seems like they were
Speaker 3: adequately enhancing him. I just it's half a season, not
Speaker 3: even of poor MLB performance, and I would rather chalk
Speaker 3: that up to growth, you know, in an optimistic sense,
Speaker 3: as opposed to Victor Scott, the second who maybe his
Speaker 3: lost season where he's barely I mean, he's only I
Speaker 3: guess he's almost played the same amount of games all
Speaker 3: in all fifty for Victor Scott, where it's been like
Speaker 3: sixty something for Noelvie. But in the majors. I'm just
Speaker 3: more afraid of the fact that he's not able to
Speaker 3: hit the ball with authority throwing in the Cardinals outfield
Speaker 3: or just Cardinals development, you know, not to mock too
Speaker 3: much about their outfield history. The Saint Louis Cardinals have
Speaker 3: had with poor performing outfielders in their system who move
Speaker 3: on to greener pastures and then start performing. But I
Speaker 3: just all in all, I just trust the skill set
Speaker 3: that Marte came with prior to his suspension, and I'm
Speaker 3: hoping that all of that performance was not due to
Speaker 3: his peds.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm going to give you a bit
Speaker 1: of a Victor Scott argument, and I'm gonna say and
Speaker 1: this is the only pairing where I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I was low person on both these guys last offseason.
Speaker 1: With Marte, I even wrote him as a faller in
Speaker 1: the third base write ups, which I took heat for.
Speaker 1: I got a very scathing email about that from a
Speaker 1: reader up in Maine.
Speaker 2: According to his IP address, That's as far as I went.
Speaker 2: I stopped this.
Speaker 1: Sure, who was a fury that? But the thing about
Speaker 1: Marte is you look at his scouting grades and you
Speaker 1: look at his performance to the miners, and they don't
Speaker 1: match up. And I just think that I've always wondered
Speaker 1: if the drive has been there and then the PD happened,
Speaker 1: and then you know, he's done nothing since coming back.
Speaker 2: From the PD. Suspension, and I truly.
Speaker 1: Hope the off season somebody sits down with him and
Speaker 1: and he does turn it on. I mean, I've always
Speaker 1: root for these guys and we talk about that, but
Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen it in Marte yet, and
Speaker 1: I just wonder if the if the inner drive is there.
Speaker 1: And then with Scott, uh, I know somebody was saying, well,
Speaker 1: at least he's not Billy Hamilton, because look what he's done.
Speaker 1: And then I pulled up Billy Hamilton's Double A stats
Speaker 1: and they were slightly better than Victor Scott. And those
Speaker 1: of you who don't remember Billy Hamilton he was came
Speaker 1: up with. Uh, I think he came up with Cincinnati
Speaker 1: right and bounced around a couple of times, fastest man
Speaker 1: on the planet. Practically just couldn't get on base, and
Speaker 1: really at the major league level, wasn't able to put
Speaker 1: the bat on the ball. But Billy Hamilton could in
Speaker 1: double A just the same way that Victor Scott could.
Speaker 1: And people said, well, we have we have more information
Speaker 1: about Victor Scott, but we don't know how that more
Speaker 1: information compared to Billy Hamilton.
Speaker 2: Had we had that at the time. However, the reason.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a Victor Scott argument is looking
Speaker 1: at you know, for a short time in the major leagues,
Speaker 1: and I look at his his contact skills. It was
Speaker 1: his zone contact and the Majors this year was eighty
Speaker 1: six point six percent eighty eight point nine in TRIPAA.
Speaker 1: Those are very hot. You know, anything over nineties as
Speaker 1: you considered very good. And then you've got Luis Arias
Speaker 1: who's like ninety nine. That's off the chart. Could and
Speaker 1: even his his chase rates not that bad. He's swinging
Speaker 1: at about thirty percent of pitches outside the zone, so
Speaker 1: that's not horrible. His his major league bad bit was
Speaker 1: two twelve. That's not sustainable. And he wasn't hitting the
Speaker 1: ball hard. He's got some things.
Speaker 2: To work on.
Speaker 1: I you know, the first to say that. But in
Speaker 1: his triple A babbub this year is two thirty three,
Speaker 1: and you look at average is you're going to be
Speaker 1: around three hundred, and you know, unless you're not. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, robbin you out. Christian Yelich here he
Speaker 1: brought up before you know who run particularly high babbots.
Speaker 1: So you know his babbitts and the miners were over
Speaker 1: three thirty three, sixty I it's a big jump. He's
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. He's got some development to do.
Speaker 1: You can't teach speed. He's got the speed. So that's
Speaker 1: gonna give me the field hit. It's going to give you
Speaker 1: the stolen bases. Can't get in either of these guys.
Speaker 2: Heads.
Speaker 1: You don't know which system is going to be better,
Speaker 1: you know, for which player.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Somebody might say Cincinnati should have done a lot better
Speaker 1: with a lot of different guys this year, but you
Speaker 1: can say the same thing about Saint Louis too, So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not quite sure organizationally, anybody's particularly helped
Speaker 1: or hurt by where they are. But if I've got
Speaker 1: both on my roster, I don't like cutting the Welby.
Speaker 1: I think they both got a lot of potential, but
Speaker 1: forced choice, I'm gonna go with Vs.
Speaker 2: Two and see what he can do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm still gonna stick with the Welvy
Speaker 4: based off of the pedigree, I guess more than anything,
Speaker 4: you can hit the ball.
Speaker 3: You can make contact, but if you're you know, if
Speaker 3: you're hitting it softly up the middle or wherever, you
Speaker 3: can be the fastest man in the world. As long
Speaker 3: as the outfielder's able to got plenty of time to
Speaker 3: run underneath it, you know. But that being said, since
Speaker 3: Nowelvie's come back, his average exit velocity, you know, he's
Speaker 3: got one hundred plus bat ated ball events. He's not
Speaker 3: even in eighty seven eighty seven miles an hour. I
Speaker 3: don't know that percentile, but that is not fast, you know.
Speaker 3: I ideally we're looking for average X of the last
Speaker 3: That he's eighty nine and above nineties is awesome. So
Speaker 3: he's not hitting the ball hard. He's also not barreling
Speaker 3: it a lot, and I like to chalk up the
Speaker 3: humanity aspect. I guess again, it could be some sunk
Speaker 3: cost fallacy on my end. On my part here, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying there's got to be something that's not in
Speaker 3: the numbers. But he's not making good contact, and I
Speaker 3: think that hopefully with the proper offseason, hopefully then he'll
Speaker 3: just you know, be put everything behind him and be
Speaker 3: ready for his first full season, his first second full yet,
Speaker 3: or however you want to jokingly say that. So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna stick with Noelvie. But I I get I get it,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: I just want to quickly point out that we're only
Speaker 1: one matchup in. We've already brought in some economic and
Speaker 1: psychology philosophy into it, so uh, stay tuned.
Speaker 2: For Greek literature and will geography coming up soon.
Speaker 1: All right, our next pairing, let's go to the top
Speaker 1: of our list, and uh, we're looking at Kyle Manzarto
Speaker 1: and Curtis Mead. All right, who I think in terms
Speaker 1: of hype and rankings in the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: Minzarto was much higher, and in terms of performance, particularly
Speaker 1: at the major league level, remarkably similar.
Speaker 2: You know, slash.
Speaker 1: Mazardo's slash has been two twenty six sixty two three
Speaker 1: eighty three in Mead two thirty eight to eighty two
Speaker 1: to eighty seven. Quick note, I pulled these stats last
Speaker 1: week last weekend, getting ready for this, and Minzarto's had
Speaker 1: a really hot week, so his numbers a probably little
Speaker 1: bit higher than that as we write, as we are
Speaker 1: recording right now.
Speaker 2: But who are you taking to that one, Chris?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna the man. I can never say the nickname,
Speaker 3: but Manzil Larian Manzarto. I'm taking Kyle, mister Manzardo. You know,
Speaker 3: he was all the rage after Vinnie was all the
Speaker 3: rage kind of following in that same profile of on
Speaker 3: base questionable power from your first baseman. But he's, as
Speaker 3: you alluded to, he's been picking up with consistent playing
Speaker 3: time in Cleveland the last couple of weeks, he's been
Speaker 3: turning it on, and I think to me, that just
Speaker 3: gives more faith that, yeah, he might not be a
Speaker 3: top ten first baseman in his prime, but he may
Speaker 3: He's gonna definitely be on a first basement or corner
Speaker 3: infielder that should be rostered everywhere. Curtis Mead, on the
Speaker 3: other hand, I have more concern with that just of
Speaker 3: him being viable in a starting position on the fan
Speaker 3: at fifteen teamer in the long run, just based off
Speaker 3: of Tampa Bay and they always seem to have new
Speaker 3: hot to trot prospects coming up, and we you know,
Speaker 3: Xavier Isaac, Trey Morgan, no slouches. Who knows what their
Speaker 3: future holds, but there's going to be competition, There's going
Speaker 3: to be other people that they're going to prioritize with
Speaker 3: their platooning and whatnot. So I just have more faith
Speaker 3: that Manzarto will be a consistent first baseman and worthy
Speaker 3: of fantasy rosters in our fifteen teamers that we focus on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot argue with you on that one. I
Speaker 1: think this is one where I do look a little
Speaker 1: bit more at the organization. Something that picked up from
Speaker 1: you earlier in the years is looking at how an
Speaker 1: organization treats a player. And again, twelve months ago, I
Speaker 1: would have thought Curtis Mead would have been pretty much
Speaker 1: the full time first baseman h this year, and he
Speaker 1: had again as last weekend, one hundred and thirty two
Speaker 1: Major League played appearances, and he didn't. You know, he
Speaker 1: had a two thirty eight to eighty two to two
Speaker 1: eighty seven slash line with those, so he didn't seize
Speaker 1: the job either when he had the opportunity. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Manzarto had some some issues that kind of held him
Speaker 1: back a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I think he's really kind of breaking.
Speaker 1: Into his own I think Cleveland does do a great
Speaker 1: job of putting the young players in the position to succeed,
Speaker 1: and when they're hot, they play him, and when they're not,
Speaker 1: they don't really bench him per se, but they'll, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll kind of cool them off, work with them, and
Speaker 1: then then bring him back. They're not They're not forgotten.
Speaker 1: I So for me, I think it's almost an easy.
Speaker 2: One for me.
Speaker 1: With Manzarto, I think Meat is sneaky one. I kind
Speaker 1: of keep an eye on him because he's just the
Speaker 1: kind of guy might be a good late breakout prosper
Speaker 1: break up being a relative term, I think with his ceiling.
Speaker 2: But you know, it could be there.
Speaker 1: And you never know Tampa Moose players, and there's no
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason that some of the trades they make
Speaker 1: either that we can see. I'm sure the the organization
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing. But you know, me could find
Speaker 1: himself in a totally new situation next year and really blossom.
Speaker 1: But I think Manzarto is the call there. I see
Speaker 1: a little. I see a lot of NYP in Manzarto.
Speaker 1: I mean, I, you know, today, for like, for a
Speaker 1: roster for next year, I'll take vn ep. But for
Speaker 1: roster for three years from now, I think they'd be
Speaker 1: a toss up between the two of them.
Speaker 2: Am I dreaming?
Speaker 3: No? I don't think so. There there's a lot of similarities.
Speaker 3: I think Vinnie has you know, the few years, although
Speaker 3: he hasn't had any complete seasons. I think he's had
Speaker 3: both of them cut short by injury, so he hasn't
Speaker 3: started banging homers like we were hoping he would develop into.
Speaker 3: But again, his Vinnie's careers very early on too. I
Speaker 3: will say I was actually diving in and a little
Speaker 3: bit as you were talking here. I do want to
Speaker 3: mention that Manzardo has only played one game at first
Speaker 3: base since he's been back up here. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: the Guardians have Naylor and Big Christmas who could potentially
Speaker 3: play first base. David Frye probably is still getting rotated
Speaker 3: in there, so you know, it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 3: what happens as they maintain this roster for a while.
Speaker 3: If Manzardo will finally move to first base and then
Speaker 3: Naylor takes more of the DH opportunities. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I don't I shouldn't consider it a lock when
Speaker 3: I when I look and see that that he's not
Speaker 3: playing even fifty percent of the game since he's been
Speaker 3: up there. He's been DH a lot this end of
Speaker 3: the month of September, so, but comparing Manzarto to Vinnie,
Speaker 3: hopefully that we're getting that twenties power from both of
Speaker 3: them and as soon as next season would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I think one of at least one of Kyle's home
Speaker 1: runs this week was a pinch it yeah appearance. And
Speaker 1: so all right, our next grouping, uh, two guys who
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of at the major league level.
Speaker 1: And I think that these are two they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to if you're interested in them, you'll probably
Speaker 1: be able to make a trade for him and get
Speaker 1: a hold of them without giving up to too much.
Speaker 1: One is Jonathan class A, recently traded to the Blue Jays,
Speaker 1: and the other is Tyler Black the Brewers.
Speaker 2: I'm a heugh first again, not like this.
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's it's this is a toss of
Speaker 5: this one's tough.
Speaker 3: I probably with a you know, in a tough situation,
Speaker 3: would probably go with class A. And that's because looking
Speaker 3: at the organization they traded for him, whereas Tyler Black
Speaker 3: and nothing against him. It wasn't like he was on
Speaker 3: the marketers in hot Water by any means. But he's
Speaker 3: still within the Brewers and and without a position, whereas
Speaker 3: class A is pretty much you know, he's got he
Speaker 3: can play a mean center field, left field even better.
Speaker 3: And it's all about whether he can develop that the
Speaker 3: pop enough thump in his back, kind of like our
Speaker 3: discussion with Vs. Two. Probably only slightly slower than VS. Two.
Speaker 3: I don't know his speed numbers, but you know, Class
Speaker 3: A was a big, a big jumper. What was that
Speaker 3: last year where he had the dominant it run in
Speaker 3: the lower miners into double A and then he showed
Speaker 3: some of that pop, the pop that we hoped for,
Speaker 3: but then that really failed to materialize further, although it
Speaker 3: looks as if he had twelve home runs this year
Speaker 3: combined in the miners both Seattle and Toronto, So I
Speaker 3: would lean. I would go lean Class A based off
Speaker 3: of the fact that he has a true defensive position
Speaker 3: and his team just acquired him, whereas Tyler Black is really,
Speaker 3: you know, to borrow the term from the NBA, but
Speaker 3: the tweener type where he doesn't have a defensive home
Speaker 3: and will continually have other roadblocks with the org. They're
Speaker 3: in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Black has played mostly at first base this year. In
Speaker 1: my mind, I thought he's really a third base. When
Speaker 1: he was coming up.
Speaker 3: He was second base and third base, I believe mostly
Speaker 3: until this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't bring the both bring a lot of
Speaker 1: speed to the game, and so if Tyler Black is
Speaker 1: playing first base, you don't often get a lot of
Speaker 1: stolen bases out of the first base position. Goldschmid used
Speaker 1: to get you a bunch when he was younger, So
Speaker 1: there may be a kind of a nugget of value
Speaker 1: there in terms of positionally and your roster composition.
Speaker 2: You know, neither of them.
Speaker 1: Put the bat on the ball a whole lot this year.
Speaker 1: Blacks got better on base percentage and kind of walks
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Neither of them have a hard
Speaker 1: hit rate that it's awesome, But you're right, class A
Speaker 1: is I thinks he is going into himself. He is
Speaker 1: very young. He was I thought he was hyped quite
Speaker 1: a bit when he was signed, and he signed at seventeen,
Speaker 1: so we've been talking about the guy for five years.
Speaker 1: But he's still only twenty two years, you know, and
Speaker 1: Blacks and old man of twenty three, so they're both
Speaker 1: in the same boat that way. But so I think
Speaker 1: I think class A, you're right. I think his ceiling
Speaker 1: is a little bit higher in terms of power and
Speaker 1: bringing you kind of what you're looking for across the
Speaker 1: most statistics we were playing with and we'll probably get
Speaker 1: a lot of playing time in the outfield.
Speaker 2: I know I've said this before.
Speaker 1: Everything I keep reading is that Toronto is just gonna
Speaker 1: make a lot of moves this offseason. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if that means signing in veterans and pushing these
Speaker 1: guys out or just saying, you know, we want to
Speaker 1: look like Houston in twenty seventeen to Detroit in twenty
Speaker 1: four and you know, see what our youth can bring us.
Speaker 2: And you're laughing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: They'll be talking about him for decades.
Speaker 1: So but but Toronto may you know, there may be
Speaker 1: a clean sleep and then and again, I don't have
Speaker 1: inside information. I'm kind of reading the same things everybody else,
Speaker 1: But just kind of what I'm picking up and seeing
Speaker 1: is aside from Vladdie, I don't think they're happy with
Speaker 1: a lot of their guys, but Shatt is talking and
Speaker 1: playing his way out of town. Anyhow, I agree with
Speaker 1: you in terms of the playing time and the power,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sleeping on Tyler Black and so fourth choice,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Class A, but I don't love it because
Speaker 1: if I had, if I had to hold on to
Speaker 1: Tyler Black, and I do have Tyler Black roster in
Speaker 1: a few teams, and I am holding on to him.
Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't break my heart to have to
Speaker 1: hold onto Tyler Black. But I think claus A has
Speaker 1: got a more immediate path, higher ceiling.
Speaker 2: I have more hope for the power there. Right.
Speaker 3: Oh, I said it's a tough one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is. Now the next one is interesting,
Speaker 1: and I'll let you off the hook. I'll go first
Speaker 1: on this one, not just because Parker's there, but Parker
Speaker 1: Meadows and Evan Carter. I was very low on Parker
Speaker 1: Meadows in the off season. I was right at that time,
Speaker 1: at the time last year, last last fall, he was
Speaker 1: overmatched and he had you know, decent spring training and
Speaker 1: people were really really high in him, and he's like
Speaker 1: fantastic center fielder. And he in April and May he
Speaker 1: was overmatched again. And I don't know what the Tiger's
Speaker 1: doing in triple A. But he came back up and
Speaker 1: he is the player that we all hoped he would
Speaker 1: be last offseason.
Speaker 2: So now I am wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't nearly rank him as low as
Speaker 1: I did then, Still going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: careful with the ranking, but he he is fast. I
Speaker 1: in the games we've been watching lately. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: stolen a couple bases, but you know, I thought we
Speaker 1: would see more than nine stolen bases out of them
Speaker 1: nineteen down below. So yeah, maybe a speed isn't translating
Speaker 1: to stolen base ability because the Tigers do run like crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want judge that too harsh
Speaker 1: to one way or the other. I guess in terms
Speaker 1: of whether or not he's going to steal bases, but
Speaker 1: he's putting on the he's putting his bat on the ball,
Speaker 1: so he's putting his bad on the ball much better
Speaker 1: than he was during the first call up. Then, Evan
Speaker 1: Carter is just an interesting one to kind of look
Speaker 1: at and think about.
Speaker 2: I know that last year.
Speaker 1: I know I was surprised by the power he showed
Speaker 1: last year when he got called up. I knew he
Speaker 1: was a good baseball player, and I knew he had good,
Speaker 1: good hit tool. But you know, I think he kind
Speaker 1: of surpassed expectations last year with the eight home runs
Speaker 1: in his Uh oh wait, I'm not going to triple a.
Speaker 1: Fifteen home runs in seventy five played appearances in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three with with with with Texas fifteen.
Speaker 2: Five Yeah, yeah, five five.
Speaker 3: You're looking at runs.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at runs.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was it was okay.
Speaker 2: Five and seventy five. Yeah, I say that that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Drew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh six forty five slugging percentage and he
Speaker 1: hid high slugging percentages. But you know, he only had
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years of double He's not
Speaker 1: going to be the up source of power, and I
Speaker 1: think that is where people get disappointed, like, oh, where's
Speaker 1: where's the power from Evin Carter. I don't think he
Speaker 1: was ever going to be that player, but he is
Speaker 1: going to high batting average. He's going to give you
Speaker 1: high on base percentage and playing a very you know,
Speaker 1: powerful line up there in Texas.
Speaker 2: The Fortune Review forced choice.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Carter, but again by a little bit.
Speaker 1: You did a good job parenties together. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: this is good one to talk about. But I'm leaning
Speaker 1: Carter when he's healthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I liked this one because of the hype
Speaker 3: for both of them coming into the season. Like you mentioned, right,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of I would if I got
Speaker 3: a deal that was you know, it depends on value,
Speaker 3: I guess, but I would like to go roster both
Speaker 3: of these players. Still, I think you would get a
Speaker 3: better trade or a I think Evan Carter's still going
Speaker 3: to cost more, but I think relative to preseason costs,
Speaker 3: this is how Yeah, this is how I want to
Speaker 3: which this relative to preseason costs, I think Evan Carter
Speaker 3: is going to be a much better value right now.
Speaker 3: So it depends on what you think his ceiling ultimate
Speaker 3: will ultimately will be. Yes, Parker Meadows is doing what
Speaker 3: I drafted him for in a couple of startups, not recently,
Speaker 3: but in the last offseason and my Best Ball drafts.
Speaker 3: He's finally doing it. He wasn't really valuable in Best Ball,
Speaker 3: but he's you know, he is coming to what we
Speaker 3: thought he could do. So Evan Carter is interesting because
Speaker 3: of that hype he gathered from September and October last
Speaker 3: year and pairing him then with Langford and that outfield
Speaker 3: everyone was drooling at the future. And then he had
Speaker 3: this back injury and if you look at Evan Carter's homers,
Speaker 3: his last home run was on April twenty sixth, So
Speaker 3: obviously this will be the small sample size that we
Speaker 3: haven't had a chance to talk about in a while,
Speaker 3: but his WRC plus from the beginning of the season
Speaker 3: until that last through that last game where he last
Speaker 3: homeward was WRC plus won twenty four. He had five
Speaker 3: homers in that first thirty ish games or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: That's almost on the same pace almost as what he
Speaker 3: was doing at the end of last year. Then he
Speaker 3: hurt his back like two weeks later, a week later,
Speaker 3: something like that, and then was finally placed on the
Speaker 3: IL a month later, and those you know that the
Speaker 3: month of May basically was lost and drained his cost
Speaker 3: in my eyes, and then he's been out with this
Speaker 3: back injury ever since. So how concerned are you long
Speaker 3: term on a back injury on someone who's a baseball player.
Speaker 3: You use your back quite a bit. I think people
Speaker 3: will see the big picture of twenty four, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: the full season numbers of twenty four, and see the
Speaker 3: injury and be more likely to move to Evan Carter
Speaker 3: versus what he did before he got hurt. And I
Speaker 3: just think he was starting maybe not gonna fully repeat, right,
Speaker 3: we're talking to two different small sample sizes. I don't
Speaker 3: think he could have extrapped I don't think it's wise
Speaker 3: to extrapolate that over the course of the season, but
Speaker 3: it was looking good, so I also, i'm on would
Speaker 3: go for Evan Carter. And to be honest, if a team,
Speaker 3: if a league mate has Parker Meadows right now, he's
Speaker 3: on fire, I'm not gonna trade him. Someone else might say,
Speaker 3: I've had Evan Carter just burning a hole on my eel.
Speaker 3: I'm sick of this game. I want to move him.
Speaker 3: So I think you're more likely to probably find a
Speaker 3: seller as well in your league. So I put Evan
Speaker 3: Carter back in a strong like buy category.
Speaker 1: Almost yeah, the price would be right to buy him
Speaker 1: universely farm rostering Parker Meadows, which I don't anywhere. I
Speaker 1: actually I did trade him in one league, the one
Speaker 1: place got him rostered to trade him right when he
Speaker 1: got sent down. All right, but right, yeah, right about that,
Speaker 1: I think, and Dinasha leaks is somebody want to take
Speaker 1: a flyer on him, and they're doing pretty well by
Speaker 1: him now. But if I am on a roster right now,
Speaker 1: I'd be shopping him around because I think you're going
Speaker 1: to get some nice value for him, or for most
Speaker 1: of our leagues starting to talk about it right now
Speaker 1: and then trade him when the trade trading opens after
Speaker 1: the season. But yeah, so Parker Medals is a very
Speaker 1: fast guy. Hasn't stolen a base since August eighteenth, which
Speaker 1: really surprises me because he is getting on base and
Speaker 1: the target has been very aggressive base running. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's scoring from first on the singles, so maybe he
Speaker 1: doesn't need to Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh, next pairing.
Speaker 1: Somebody who's started hot after he got called up and
Speaker 1: cooled off, and then somebody who's been hot lately, Ben
Speaker 1: Rice the New York Yankees and Hunter Goodman, who still
Speaker 1: has catcher eligibility in Colorado, and I think they've caught
Speaker 1: him enough games that he'll have it for next year
Speaker 1: or so. I think long run Goodman will play more
Speaker 1: outfield than catcher. But this is a really really interesting choice.
Speaker 1: I'll kind of jump in here. I think the Major
Speaker 1: League slash lines this year for Rice has been a
Speaker 1: one seventy four, two sixty nine, three fifty six, and
Speaker 1: for Goodman it's been one ninety one, two thirty one
Speaker 1: four ten. But I bet if we look over September,
Speaker 1: we'd see I know, we'd see much higher for Goodman,
Speaker 1: uh than for Rice. Uh, even even a bigger difference
Speaker 1: than is there. As I've talked about Ben Rice a lot,
Speaker 1: and I like him as a player a lot, I'm
Speaker 1: still gonna go with Goodman right now if I have
Speaker 1: to pick one to keep on a roster. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to get more playing time. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to steal a few bases for maybe a couple
Speaker 1: bags here and there, not not a lot, but.
Speaker 2: The power is there.
Speaker 1: The power has been consistent, you know, through his career,
Speaker 1: and now I'm worried about Ben Rice's playing time again.
Speaker 1: Austin Wells got hot as soon as Ben Rice got
Speaker 1: off the bus. So he's holding out of the catching position,
Speaker 1: first base. They've been kind of moving guys in and out,
Speaker 1: and Russo is somehow talk about back injuries. I wrote
Speaker 1: Riso off two and a half years ago, and he's
Speaker 1: proven me wrong there.
Speaker 2: So who knows what the Yankees to doing.
Speaker 1: They're always active in the free agent market, and you
Speaker 1: know they may bring in somebody there. So Rice, so
Speaker 1: I thought, had a clear path of playing time, may not.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm looking at these and although we
Speaker 1: didn't hear a whole lot, we didn't hear as much
Speaker 1: all year.
Speaker 2: About a good minutes, I thought.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think he's a classic for this conversation,
Speaker 1: because he had he had a lot of helium in
Speaker 1: the off season, and it was climbing up, particularly prospect lists,
Speaker 1: maybe not overall lists, but he was. He was climbing
Speaker 1: up pretty quickly, and that catch you eligibility was really
Speaker 1: uh tempting to look at and then not so much
Speaker 1: most of the year. But he's been hot the last
Speaker 1: month or so, and I think that he's showing us what.
Speaker 2: He can do.
Speaker 1: And I think Colorado by playing him at catcher's doing
Speaker 1: fantasy managers a really big favor. So and I don't
Speaker 1: think Ben Rice has caught since.
Speaker 3: He's been called up right, he has one game.
Speaker 1: Okay, So depending on your league's sitting settings, he may
Speaker 1: keep eligibility for one more year based on what he
Speaker 1: did last year, but he's probably more likely to lose
Speaker 1: his catcher eligibility sooner than Goodman, if that's part of
Speaker 1: your decision making process. But I think I think opportunity,
Speaker 1: I think the power, I think kind of what I've seen.
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of recency bias, but I'm going
Speaker 1: Goodman with this matchup.
Speaker 2: Where are you? Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't bury that one too far. I agree
Speaker 3: with Goodman. Yeah, I paired him because of the catcher
Speaker 3: heritage in the miners, I guess, and going forward, and
Speaker 3: I think Goodman is at nineteen games, so he just
Speaker 3: needs to catch one more time for the majority of
Speaker 3: league settings in the twenty twenty fourth season to carry
Speaker 3: that over next year. And looking at his game log
Speaker 3: the last we are, he looks like I see basically
Speaker 3: ten since September fifth here, it looks like ten games
Speaker 3: at catchers. So they're really Colorado's helping us. We love it.
Speaker 3: And because that's I mean, I think anyone with a
Speaker 3: league average bat who plays catcher is a good, viable
Speaker 3: candidate and redraft And you know, when you're young and
Speaker 3: have a future in front of you and play in Colorado,
Speaker 3: that's even more checkboxes that I like. Yeah, Goodman, as
Speaker 3: you said, he's he started off really mediocre. August he
Speaker 3: was about league average with a one oh nine WRC plus,
Speaker 3: but then the month of September he's been in Fuego
Speaker 3: and at a buck forty six WRC plus, he's had
Speaker 3: five homers, this month alone, so you know, his overall
Speaker 3: season numbers aren't going to look good. But as long
Speaker 3: as he gets that next catch catcher game, I definitely
Speaker 3: would take him over Ben Rice because that will help
Speaker 3: shore up that position and give a little bit more
Speaker 3: flexibility going forward. And who knows, maybe the the Rockies
Speaker 3: will continue using him as that, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: want to say emergency catcher, but just lengthening their bench
Speaker 3: by rotating him in there and in the outfield and
Speaker 3: making him more viable. I don't I think, you know,
Speaker 3: people consider Colorado as a homer booster park, but it's
Speaker 3: more of an average batting average booster park. I think
Speaker 3: when you look at the actual stat cast. Ben Rice,
Speaker 3: on the other hand, you know he does play in
Speaker 3: the Yankee stadium any bats left handed. That does boost
Speaker 3: his viability for power. But I think you hit the
Speaker 3: nail on the head that Rizzo's not going away yet.
Speaker 3: He still has a few more years under contract, even uh,
Speaker 3: and the Yankees can Yankee at any at any second,
Speaker 3: who knows, so they haven't given him a long leash,
Speaker 3: and I think I think everything's just leaning towards Goodman
Speaker 3: as the preferred option between those two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, your next set is a group of three
Speaker 1: three infielders, and I'm gonna let you go first because
Speaker 1: I'm still scratching my head over to these guys a
Speaker 1: little bit. We have Grand Pauli, who is now a Marlin.
Speaker 1: Last offseason he was a Padre, Tyler Locklear from Seattle,
Speaker 1: and Zach Descenzo from the Houston Astros, all players who
Speaker 1: have spent a little bit of time in the major
Speaker 1: leagues this year, probably not as much as we anticipated.
Speaker 1: I think Decenzos had fifty five played appearances as the
Speaker 1: last weekend to lead that trio. I think coming into
Speaker 1: the year we thought all three would probably have possibly
Speaker 1: had more.
Speaker 2: But who's emerging from this group.
Speaker 3: For you, you know, it's my choice to be Zach Decenzo. Decenzo.
Speaker 3: I'll get into him in a bit. Polly, I think
Speaker 3: kind of got rushed. He was really good coming up
Speaker 3: through San Diego, and San Diego does what San Diego does,
Speaker 3: and it was I was surprised to see him making
Speaker 3: the opening day roster for them over in Korea this year,
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people were. And after
Speaker 3: they send him, you know, they jerked him around on
Speaker 3: the lineup. I don't think he played consistently if I
Speaker 3: remember right, and then they sent him down to Triple
Speaker 3: A and he just wasn't didn't seem to be the
Speaker 3: same batter even pre and post mid season trade, So
Speaker 3: he doesn't have a standout tool. Maybe he'll have a
Speaker 3: longer leash in Miami come next year, but it's kind
Speaker 3: of cloudy in my opinion. Lockleer, especially when it comes
Speaker 3: to fantasy value. Lockleyar is kind of that same boat
Speaker 3: of uh. I'm not really sure what he's I've never
Speaker 3: been all in on his potential as a power hitter.
Speaker 3: He does take a walk pretty nicely, but that's not
Speaker 3: what I necessarily look for in my first baseman, which
Speaker 3: brings me to act Genzo. I think he's going to
Speaker 3: be another sneaky buye for anyone who's paying relatively close attention.
Speaker 3: He was hurt for the vast majority of the season.
Speaker 3: I don't think he came back. I don't have it
Speaker 3: pulled up the game log. I don't think he came
Speaker 3: back into August and he played well in Triple A
Speaker 3: and they promoted him and he did not play well
Speaker 3: in the majors. But I think that's fine. It was
Speaker 3: a risk injury that he was coming back from, and
Speaker 3: we all know that that can be have some long
Speaker 3: term impacts to swing in a baseball bat. I really
Speaker 3: he had that popping of a season two years ago
Speaker 3: in High A, which maybe it was low way, I
Speaker 3: forget where playing in Ashville where he kind of started
Speaker 3: jumping of people's radars and Jay and Ashville's a power haven,
Speaker 3: so you kind of take those with a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: But he kept doing it through Double A last year,
Speaker 3: and so I'm I'm leaning into this. I think with
Speaker 3: Bregman as a free agent, with the whole at first
Speaker 3: base he could get because he came up as a
Speaker 3: third baseman. I think Zach Decenzo will be on the
Speaker 3: major league roster next year. I've actually I'm actually wrapping
Speaker 3: up my third Best Ball draft for twenty twenty five already.
Speaker 3: He he's my He's my last end of the draft
Speaker 3: scoop that I'm getting to shore up my my positions.
Speaker 3: So hopefully I'll have him drafted in this third one
Speaker 3: before anyone listens, if anyone on in that league listens.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Zach to Chanzo, I think he's gonna have power.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna just he's a right handed batter,
Speaker 3: so he's got the Crawford boxes to aim at. You know.
Speaker 3: It's I think he's gonna have a big fantasy future
Speaker 3: in Houston, probably starting next year.
Speaker 1: Okay, from these three, I'm probably gonna stick with where
Speaker 1: I was in the preseason, and that was I think
Speaker 1: Grand PAULI might be the highest of these three.
Speaker 2: I think I remember feeling bad.
Speaker 1: He was on my first j TR thirty list, and
Speaker 1: I felt bad keeping him on there, even bringing him on,
Speaker 1: because I thought he was pretty highly ranked and not
Speaker 1: really hitting the spirit of overlooked except he wasn't that
Speaker 1: that percentage rostered at the time.
Speaker 2: He just he he's had a bad year. I can't yet.
Speaker 2: Just kind of wonder the early call up.
Speaker 1: Again, not getting the plenty of time, not you know,
Speaker 1: not not doing well with that and getting you know,
Speaker 1: sent back down. Is that help a guy? I heard
Speaker 1: a guy you know, oh, I've seen that. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get back there. And the other hand's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just for me, Am I overmatched? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't know the guy. I
Speaker 1: haven't read any articles about that. And you hope the
Speaker 1: kind of change of scenery. I will say his since
Speaker 1: the trade to Miami, kind of looking at his his
Speaker 1: hit tool, he's see like fifty percent line drives, so
Speaker 1: it looks like they're tinkering with the swing there, kind
Speaker 1: of kind of working with them in the in the
Speaker 1: in the system there. You know, I think in Miami
Speaker 1: more for what they do with pitchers, but I think
Speaker 1: they develop all their young players pretty well. And I
Speaker 1: and I don't think what pay did in double A
Speaker 1: and single prior to that was a fluke. You know,
Speaker 1: he was basically a three. It was a three hundred
Speaker 1: hitter until this year, uh, you know when he kind
Speaker 1: of got the you know, the quick call up and
Speaker 1: moving around. So we'll see Tyler lockleyer. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I've I've I'm not down on him. I just never
Speaker 1: really caught my eye as a wow factor either, you know.
Speaker 1: And and like you're right, you're the the The OBP
Speaker 1: is nice, and we look at OBP leagues. The walk
Speaker 1: grade is nice, but first base, you know, you want
Speaker 1: to see double digit you want to see.
Speaker 2: Twenty home runs on your first basement.
Speaker 1: I don't care what else to do for you you've
Speaker 1: just got to you gotta be able to lock in
Speaker 1: some power at that position unless you've got a really
Speaker 1: interesting roster build. But I like to sense a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: argue with anything you said.
Speaker 2: About him other than and.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the leagues I'm in. I think people are
Speaker 1: on him. I think he would be hard for me
Speaker 1: to get right now in the leagues that I'm in because, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and I try to throw on time his
Speaker 1: call up is being announced, and I threw out some
Speaker 1: flyers to try to get try to get ahold of him,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, oh no, Houston's calling him up.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hold on to him. So I could probably
Speaker 1: have a little bit better look going after in the
Speaker 1: off season. And I agree, it's probably a great best
Speaker 1: ball draft right now for you to generate the best
Speaker 1: ball it's already. So my pick out of this group is, uh,
Speaker 1: if I got to do a roster trade, cut roster poly,
Speaker 1: you know, trade Descenzo, but.
Speaker 2: And cut locked the I don't.
Speaker 3: Know this, This pot is taking a turn.
Speaker 1: U Polly's my guy out of this list. Our last
Speaker 1: grouping of three that we have lined up, which is
Speaker 1: a real let's call this the roll of the Dice group.
Speaker 1: Nacho Alvarez, A D. L Amador, and brooks Lee. And
Speaker 1: brooks Lee is named after I heard I was watching
Speaker 1: the Twins game of the day because I've got to
Speaker 1: hope for them to lose. So Brooksley is named after
Speaker 1: Brooks Robinson and his father wanted to name him after
Speaker 1: Lou Brock but couldn't name a kid Broccoli. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's true, but it's what the announcer said.
Speaker 1: He claimed it was true. That's pretty good anyhow, Broccoli aside.
Speaker 1: So we've got broccoli, we got nachos, and we got
Speaker 1: Audi al Amador.
Speaker 2: I can't make a food out of that one.
Speaker 1: I you know, I really like what Amador's hit tool was,
Speaker 1: and I'm really nervous about what he did and didn't
Speaker 1: do this year, both in the minors and in his brief,
Speaker 1: very surprising call up to Colorado kind of mid season.
Speaker 1: I think, I think brooks Lee is going to be
Speaker 1: a really good major league baseball player, like a good major.
Speaker 2: League baseball player, you know, And and but I.
Speaker 1: Think maybe not. Choe Alvarez is the highest ceiling from
Speaker 1: this group. But what were you thinking we can I
Speaker 1: may come back to I will come back to this,
Speaker 1: but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a lot of yeahs, but I agree,
Speaker 3: and I would take Nacho Alvarez. I think again reading
Speaker 3: organizational tea leaves a little bit. The Braves obviously like
Speaker 3: him to pull him up to uh, bring him up
Speaker 3: to the majors for a bit this year. I think
Speaker 3: it's as what his second full season. Yeah, so that
Speaker 3: seemed pretty quick to me. I don't know what his
Speaker 3: amateur profile was or history was, but the guy has approached.
Speaker 3: He knows how to you know, what to swing at one,
Speaker 3: to swing at it. The Braves like him, I think
Speaker 3: the right. He might not be a full time or
Speaker 3: next year. I was looking at their depth chart Rcia
Speaker 3: who they so I will say that Alvarez is listed
Speaker 3: as a second basement, but the Braves have been playing
Speaker 3: him at short and third. I don't think Austin Riley's
Speaker 3: going anywhere, and Orlando Arcia is the incumbent at short,
Speaker 3: which I think that says enough right there, He's got
Speaker 3: two more years, I'm sorry, one more year. He's under
Speaker 3: contract next year as his final year before he there's
Speaker 3: a team option. So I think we're gonna probably have
Speaker 3: another partial season on Oh I'm sorry, that's our Sia,
Speaker 3: not not Nacho. Nacho still probably on the not yet
Speaker 3: eligible for arbitration list, but so I think the riding
Speaker 3: is on the wall, that that's where the Braves see
Speaker 3: him is at short. I don't know his ability to
Speaker 3: play good defense or not, but for the time being,
Speaker 3: I think that's what they have. I have him lined
Speaker 3: up to be obp leagues. He gets a bump, he
Speaker 3: can put the but not much because he does put
Speaker 3: the bat on the ball a lot. He might not
Speaker 3: have huge power, but in that offense, as long as
Speaker 3: he's getting on base, he's probably gonna score some runs,
Speaker 3: and probably his defense hopefully then will allow him to
Speaker 3: at least just stick up there enough, even if it's
Speaker 3: at the back end of that order. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a it's amatur I know a lot of people did
Speaker 3: like I I like people with more. I like my
Speaker 3: fantasy pross to have a standout tool or more, and
Speaker 3: usually if it's just the hit tool like some of
Speaker 3: like these three, I'm not super excited about him but
Speaker 3: I think Alvarez might have the higher ceiling, brooks Lee.
Speaker 3: I don't know how long Correa is under contract. They
Speaker 3: keep having that rotating door at second base, so maybe
Speaker 3: he'll play there. Yeah, just a lot of I don't
Speaker 3: know shrugs. So that's why I think Alvarez has the
Speaker 3: most likelihood of an opening here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Well, Lee's been playing all over the
Speaker 1: infield so far. Second based through it in short, which
Speaker 1: is I mean, good for what we're looking for. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're working together them in I think it's been
Speaker 1: partly to spell people and partly to keep.
Speaker 2: His bad in and Kari is not going to give
Speaker 2: you one hundred and sixty two games.
Speaker 3: So not many people on that roster will.
Speaker 2: No, so you know Lee's going to be there for
Speaker 2: you filling in.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a good asset, both for a
Speaker 1: major league team and as a fantasy team. He being
Speaker 1: brooks Lee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like all three of these guys, but I
Speaker 2: think I'm holding one. I'm holding Alvarez.
Speaker 1: And it hates me to say that because I was
Speaker 1: a really really high in Amadour for the past few years,
Speaker 1: and I still am high on him.
Speaker 2: I like to hit tool.
Speaker 1: I I like having a player on the roster who
Speaker 1: is who is just going to get on base and
Speaker 1: keep the the batting verge ob peaks.
Speaker 2: I think with that comes runs.
Speaker 1: If you're getting hits and those guys in base, you're
Speaker 1: getting some RBIs, you know, some of the cunning stats
Speaker 1: are are going to follow. It's kind of the Luisa
Speaker 1: Rias model. You know, he could also be Jeff McNeil
Speaker 1: and do it once and then not do it again.
Speaker 1: So I think Albaretz probably is the is the call
Speaker 1: here from these three, but I'm not totally giving up
Speaker 1: on any of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'll they'll they kind of fall into
Speaker 3: that better in real life I'll get, which also I
Speaker 3: think makes them more attractive and deeper leagues right where
Speaker 3: they might go underappreciated. So if you're in a deep league,
Speaker 3: I'm to thinking twenty team plus with two three hundred
Speaker 3: prospects perhaps rostered. I think that's where these guys are
Speaker 3: going to have a lot more allure because that they'll
Speaker 3: likely all be major league baseball players, just not top
Speaker 3: fantasy options.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we start, that was all the groupings that
Speaker 1: we had We had a few of the names on
Speaker 1: our worksheet. As we're putting this together. I'm going to
Speaker 1: read them real quick, and Chris, I'll pick one. You
Speaker 1: pick one just to talk about for a minute, if
Speaker 1: I can put you on the spot for that, Okay,
Speaker 1: So just so listeners other players were looking at were
Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo, Kyrain Paris Jackson, Holiday, Addison Barger, Brian Rochio,
Speaker 1: Joey li Brafido, Jase Young, in On Helmer, Tina who
Speaker 1: jumps off the page, anybody you want to talk about
Speaker 1: for a second.
Speaker 3: I'll let you go first, all right.
Speaker 1: I I am a sneaky high on on hell Or
Speaker 1: Angel Martinez with the Cleveland Guardians, who's back with the
Speaker 1: big club right now? He was, He was up for
Speaker 1: a while and they sent him down and they brought
Speaker 1: him back up recently, hitting two forty eight at the
Speaker 1: major league level, got a strong hit tool, great's pretty
Speaker 1: high at speed, average is slightly below average power. But
Speaker 1: when you put it all together, at he's listening to
Speaker 1: outfield right now. But I think that for most of
Speaker 1: his career he's been a middle infielder, So I think
Speaker 1: for a middle infield piece, he kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: that Amandra Sario or him and am I trying to
Speaker 1: blank and Himanez's first name Andre Andre. Yeah, he's kind
Speaker 1: of give me that kind of above somebody who's going
Speaker 1: to be really, really useful on a fantasy major league
Speaker 1: roster too, but on a fantasy roster, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people he he was really low ranked
Speaker 1: to the point of being unmosterable coming into the season,
Speaker 1: and I don't really know why, Like he didn't wow
Speaker 1: last year in the minors, so I think the helium was,
Speaker 1: you know, came all the way out. But he's had
Speaker 1: he's had decent progression. He's still a young guy, uh
Speaker 1: so twenty two years old right now. He's somebody if
Speaker 1: I've got him stashed somewhere, I'm holding on to him,
Speaker 1: you know somebody, and then I don't get him any
Speaker 1: offers for him. As somebody make an offer, i'd always listen,
Speaker 1: of course, But he's somebody I think is going to
Speaker 1: again break out into a solid major league, solid fantasy
Speaker 1: league fantasy piece on this one. And he is probably
Speaker 1: on your waiver wire right now. You probably don't even
Speaker 1: have to trade to get a hold of him, unless
Speaker 1: you're playing in a league with me, who you got?
Speaker 2: I'm sure I didn't take yours, but well.
Speaker 5: You know, I I of wanted to avoid the Orioles
Speaker 5: because they're well known and I don't think their value
Speaker 5: is going to be dropped all that much.
Speaker 3: I was interested that you put Jayce Young on here,
Speaker 3: and so I was going to give you the opportunity
Speaker 3: to see if you were going to talk about him,
Speaker 3: because I'm curious, how did you you think he's underperforming?
Speaker 3: Did you anticipate? What did you expect out of him?
Speaker 3: I guess more than because I'll be honest, I am
Speaker 3: not a He's never high on my ranks. He's never
Speaker 3: high on my target list. But the fact that he
Speaker 3: made it to the major leagues this year wasn't completely
Speaker 3: out of the question, but also pretty quick, right. I
Speaker 3: think he didn't even play double A this year, so what's.
Speaker 1: Oh did they move him from? I don't have his
Speaker 1: thing though, Yeah, he didn't. I didn't expect to see
Speaker 1: him up this year, I really, Chris. What I did
Speaker 1: is I took I took the rookies off of the
Speaker 1: fangrass and then I was doing filters on their WRC
Speaker 1: plus at the major league level as well as here.
Speaker 1: You know, the slash figures the average OBP and slugging,
Speaker 1: and I was actually kind of surprised.
Speaker 2: His slugging is to seventy three.
Speaker 1: His yeah average to twenty seven, OBP three forty six,
Speaker 1: And I knew that he can he can take away.
Speaker 2: He is an aggressive.
Speaker 1: Walk taker like he just from watching him, and you know,
Speaker 1: I really don't want to be that Tiger's guy, but
Speaker 1: I've been watching the past month, of course, because they're
Speaker 1: so exciting right now. He's he can foul off a
Speaker 1: difficult strike, like he puts the bat on the ball
Speaker 1: and can stay alive and dry that walk. Usually somebody's
Speaker 1: that kind of back control has got a little bit
Speaker 1: of higher batting average, So I'm not disappointed. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna be particularly down on him. It was
Speaker 1: more of a that's why the filtering came out, and
Speaker 1: I did take a couple of guys off because of
Speaker 1: very small sample sizes, but I justly I throw him
Speaker 1: on there and see what, you know, kind of where
Speaker 1: you fell out in relationship to everybody else that we
Speaker 1: were talking about today. So yeah, I probably didn't pretestantly
Speaker 1: fit as a post hype. But maybe there are people
Speaker 1: play fantasy who as soon as we gets called up
Speaker 1: if they don't win Rookie of the Year, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta move on. And if you're in the league
Speaker 1: with that guy, then you know, trade for Jase Young,
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 3: Think, yeah, and that's kind of yeah, That's why I
Speaker 3: was a surprised be not homer homer ismwithstanding here, just
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have called this a post hype, right, but
Speaker 3: it makes sense that he hits those uh checks those
Speaker 3: boxes here. Yeah, he's known if I remember right, and
Speaker 3: I apologize, but he's been a power bat, correct, just
Speaker 3: like a second baseman, kind of third baseman power bat.
Speaker 3: Now with Colt Keith playing second base, Young is a
Speaker 3: better defender at third, so that's where there's been sticking him.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I think it's just that his power
Speaker 3: hasn't happened. As you called out, his slugging was pretty low.
Speaker 3: And I would say, if you have the opportunity to
Speaker 3: get him, yeah, he seems more reasonable than a lot
Speaker 3: of other options that if you're trying to buy hypes,
Speaker 3: this does seem like a good opportunity to get him.
Speaker 3: It just caught me off guard and including him on here,
Speaker 3: and I think that that's a totally reasonable target. It
Speaker 3: makes him almost a target, I think because of the
Speaker 3: mediocre power out lack of power completely. So yeah, cool,
Speaker 3: all right, hey, good talk. Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 1: So that brings us to the end of our list
Speaker 1: and the end of our show. So we've got one
Speaker 1: more coming out. I have a JT thirty JTR thirty
Speaker 1: wrap up and end of the season update on that
Speaker 1: list before we hit into our off season. So, Chris,
Speaker 1: thank you. Has always been talking to you in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Any last words for today.
Speaker 3: You know, if this is our last quote unquote traditional
Speaker 3: join the Ranks episode, It's been a hell of a year, Drew.
Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed it. So I'm glad you're to come
Speaker 3: looking for me if I was to hide from you,
Speaker 3: because I want to come back and do this some more.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I am glad you say that, because again,
Speaker 1: I've also had a great year and it's been a
Speaker 1: wonderful getting to know you as well as to talking
Speaker 1: baseball with you as somebody who's as passionate about it
Speaker 1: as I am. Each each tend me it together. So
Speaker 1: it's been a blast listeners. I hope you've enjoyed it
Speaker 1: as well. We get some good feedback and it's really
Speaker 1: nice to hear. So great spending time with you, and
Speaker 1: as I always say, we know your time is valuable.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending some of it with us today.
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