1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,839 Epstein Chronicles. As much as I despise Jeffrey Epstein, as 3 00:00:11,919 --> 00:00:15,279 much as he sickens me, as much as I think 4 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,480 that he was an absolute disgusting piece of garbage, there's 5 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:23,519 no denying that he was charismatic, and there's no denying 6 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:27,640 that he had a way of attracting people into his orbit, 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,199 and a lot of those people had a whole lot 8 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:34,439 of money. So I'll never sit here and tell you 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,880 that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a con man. He was one 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,640 of the best to do it. But unlike the vast 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,439 majority of con men, Jeffrey Epstein was playing the long 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,079 con and he had a long term game plan that 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,520 he was carrying out, and that game plan included collecting 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,520 billionaires at every turn. And one of those billionaires was 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,280 Mortimer Zuckerman. Now we've talked about mister Zuckerman several times 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,879 on the podcast previously, and if you recall, he was 17 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:13,120 getting dragged into the lawsuit between Dershowitz and Virginia Roberts. 18 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:17,719 Now that never went anywhere, considering that Virginia and Dershowitz 19 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:21,280 came to an agreement, but Mortimer has been somebody that's 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,959 been a close friend to Jeffrey Epstein for a very 21 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:27,319 very long time. So it does not shock me to 22 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:31,680 find out that Jeffrey Epstein was trying to get Mortimer 23 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:36,879 to give up control of his affairs. Now, Jeffrey Epstein 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,480 said that he was giving that advice because Mortimer was 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,560 declining right He was having a mental and physical decline, 26 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,560 and Jeffrey Epstein wanted him to take care of his 27 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:55,319 affairs before that decline slipped even further. However, it wasn't 28 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:57,840 because Jeffrey Epstein was a nice guy and he cared 29 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:01,040 about Mortimer. He wanted to get his hands on some 30 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:04,599 of that dough. So today we have an article from 31 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Al Jazeera and the headline Epstein urged media mogul to 32 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,840 give up control of affairs, citing health. This article was 33 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:19,960 authored by John Power. Jeffrey Epstein urged Canadian American media 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,159 and real estate mogul Mortimer Zuckerman to relinquish control of 35 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:27,520 his financial affairs over what he claimed was the magnates 36 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:32,680 potentially dangerous cognitive impairment. According to files released by the 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,360 United States Department of Justice, While Epstein's business ties with Zuckerman, 38 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:40,199 now eighty eight years old, have been a matter of 39 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:43,879 public record for over two decades. The file suggests that 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,159 the late sex offender also served as a confidant with 41 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:50,680 access to the most intimate details of the billionaire moguls 42 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:54,360 personal life. Well, that's what he did. That's what Jeffrey 43 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,120 Epstein's function was. Once he weaseled his way in, he 44 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,919 was there and there was no rooting him out because 45 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,560 once he was there, he acted like the parasite he was. 46 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,840 He leached on and he started bleeding people dry. And 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,639 that was Jeffrey Epstein's m O time and time again. 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,759 And having all this money, all this access to all 49 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,520 this wealth from people like Mortimer and people like Les 50 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Wexner and people like Leon Black, it gave Jeffrey Epstein 51 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:30,039 great power. Right when you're controlling that amount of money, 52 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:33,479 when you're able to make decisions for people like Leon 53 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Black and mister Mortimer Zuckerman, that certainly gives you a 54 00:03:38,039 --> 00:03:41,319 level of financial ability that most people can never even 55 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,960 dream about. And if you don't think Jeffrey Epstein was 56 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,039 making a bag while he was doing whatever scumbaggery he 57 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:51,599 was doing for these people, you're crazy. He was getting 58 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:54,639 his cut. And we're not talking about the usual banker's cut. 59 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:00,719 We're talking about a criminality cut, right, probably anywhere from 60 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:05,080 twenty five to forty percent. When you're trying to stash 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,520 money and you're trying to hide money, that's how it 62 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,240 works out right. You think people like Epstein are just 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,599 going to bundle that for free. Oh yeah, here's the 64 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:16,959 homie hookup. He doesn't have any homies. He never did. 65 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,720 It's always been about Jeffrey Epstein, and I've been trying 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,839 to tell people that for a long time. After meeting 67 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,040 with Zuckerman and the Norwegian diplomat Terry Rod Larsen in 68 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:32,639 October of twenty fifteen, Epstein wrote an email urging the 69 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,639 tycoon to enter a guardianship or a conservatorship for his 70 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,720 own protection. Epstein told Zuckerman, the owner and publisher of 71 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,600 US News and World, to report that the mogul had 72 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,079 requested his help during their meeting several days earlier, but 73 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:51,160 that he might not remember or is it Epstein making 74 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,240 a move, knows that this guy is losing his marbles 75 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:57,199 and says to himself, you know what, this is an 76 00:04:57,199 --> 00:04:59,879 easy way to pick up another thirty forty to fifty 77 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:04,959 hundred million, whatever it might be. Because remember again, Jeffrey 78 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:08,000 Epstein has no friends, and just like any shark in 79 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,120 the water, when they smell blood, a feeding frenzy occurs, 80 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:15,800 and that most certainly is the case for people like 81 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,839 Epstein when it comes to money. Your friends, including me, 82 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,240 are very concerned that your cognitive impairment has now reached 83 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,079 a serious and potentially dangerous level. Their serious concern for 84 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,399 your financial, emotional, physical, and psychological safety. Epstein wrote, using 85 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:41,120 his typically idiosyncratic approach to spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Well, 86 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,120 that's a nice way of saying that Jeffrey Epstein typed 87 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,800 like a tween. I mean he wanted to be around 88 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,079 a bunch of teenagers. Is anybody shocked at his grammar? 89 00:05:50,439 --> 00:05:52,879 Looks like a teenager was the one that was in 90 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,759 charge of writing the email. Nobody should be shocked by that. 91 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,879 And again there's this big myth that Jeffrey Epstein was 92 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,360 some kind of genius. He most certainly was not. He 93 00:06:04,439 --> 00:06:09,959 was a snake oil salesman, a huckster, a manipulator, a cheater, 94 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,319 a liar. A genius certainly not that Epstein suggested that Zuckerman, 95 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:19,519 Grant Rod Larsen, Zuckerman's nephews, and anyone else you trust 96 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,360 authority to manage his affairs, warning that his remarkable abilities 97 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:28,279 were no longer enough to protect him. I'm aware that 98 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:31,399 your condition makes you prone to suspicion, but that being said, 99 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:35,560 the future predictable decline will be an ever increasing danger, 100 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Epstein wrote, the concerned predator, putting on his nurse's hat. Meanwhile, 101 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:44,399 what he really means is turn your money over to 102 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,439 me so I can pill for it. Admitting you have 103 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,439 a problem will take courage and determination. Zuckerman, who previously 104 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,600 owned The Atlantic and the New York Deli News, appeared 105 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,439 to take Epstein's advice seriously, thanking him for his thoughtfulness 106 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:03,360 and French, and asking for recommendations for a lawyer with 107 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:07,720 experience in such matters. Imagine turning to Jeffrey Epstein for 108 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,639 any kind of advice whatsoever. Like you have your own kids, 109 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,480 you have people around you, but it's Jeffrey Epstein you're 110 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:20,480 relying on. I just don't understand. I truly don't get it. 111 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 It's one of the most confusing things in this whole, 112 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,199 entire disgusting ball of shit. Like, you have all this 113 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,360 access to the best people in the world when it 114 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:34,560 comes to tax advice, of state planning, whatever, but you 115 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,399 choose to go to Jeffrey Epstein. You choose to associate 116 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:42,120 with a man who's already been convicted of crimes against miners, 117 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:46,040 Like make it make sense. And look, I'm not saying 118 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,959 that people can't be duped. They most certainly can. But 119 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:52,560 when you know what somebody is, you know what they've done, 120 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:55,399 you can't come off and say, oh, well, I had 121 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:58,800 no idea. I didn't know he was a predator. I 122 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,360 didn't know he was an evil man. And it's not 123 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,040 like this stuff was hidden like nobody reported on it. 124 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,800 It was reported on a lot, and everybody knew what 125 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Jeffrey Epstein was. And all these people that were in 126 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,759 his circle that tryum bullshit about that, they really are repugnant. 127 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:17,519 And it's one of the main reasons I don't care 128 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,639 about their reputations. I really don't give a flying fuck 129 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,160 about any of their reputations. All these people that have 130 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,959 been hiding from this, running from it, knew about it 131 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 but kept it secret. Now that you've been outed, I 132 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,759 should care about you. Well, maybe you should have cared 133 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:37,279 about those survivors. Maybe you should have cared that Jeffrey 134 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,080 Epstein and his band of bank robbers were stealing from 135 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,399 all of us. So I really don't care about their 136 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 reputations being put on blast. They should be put on blast, 137 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,480 and if they can explain themselves, they should. But the 138 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,879 problem is most of these people they can't explain themselves, 139 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,200 and that's why they ran from it for so long. 140 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,600 Zuckerman suggested the two men meet after he from an 141 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:03,799 upcoming trip to San Francisco, but Epstein advised him to 142 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,200 cancel the trip and said the mogul had told him 143 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,039 about his travel plans on four separate occasions. I know 144 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 you don't remember each time. Mort you need a guardian, 145 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,639 Epstein wrote, you should choose one now while your judgment 146 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,799 peaks through the haze. Waiting too long will mean most 147 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:25,440 likely accord imposed solution, not fun. Epstein also discussed Zuckerman's 148 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,960 health with his nephew, Eric Gertler, advising the relative to 149 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,360 oversee the sale of the businessman's stocks, art collection, helicopter 150 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:37,320 and plane. Well, I'm sure that Jeffrey Epstein was gonna 151 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,879 benefit one way or the other from that stuff being 152 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:43,799 sold off again. There is not an altruistic bone in 153 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,399 this dude's body. Everything's about Epstein, Everything's transactional, and everything 154 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,360 is parasitic. My expertise is the financial take any other 155 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,879 suggestion as merely transmitting from other skilled in this terrible situation. 156 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,519 Epstein wrote to Gertler, who is the current executive chairman 157 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:06,000 of US News and World Report, in one email. It's 158 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:09,200 not clear of Zuckerman followed Epstein's advice to pass over 159 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:14,039 control of his affairs. Zuckerman announced that he would step 160 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,879 down as chairman of the Boston Properties, one of the 161 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,440 largest real estate investment trusts in the US, about six 162 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,120 months after his correspondence with Epstein. Well, he probably took 163 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:27,639 his advice, and I'm sure that the people around him, 164 00:10:27,639 --> 00:10:31,919 his nephew whoever, saw the decline, so I have no 165 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,080 doubt that they took Epstein's advice. What I'm shocked by 166 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,919 is that Epstein didn't weasel his way in and get 167 00:10:38,919 --> 00:10:43,200 the keys to the kingdom. That's what I'm shocked by. 168 00:10:44,159 --> 00:10:46,600 Zuckerman did not cite any health issues at the time 169 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:49,519 and kept the title to chairman at the company, which 170 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:54,039 he co founded in nineteen seventy his philanthropic organizations, the 171 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:58,840 Zuckerman Institute and Zuckerman's STEM Leadership Program, and Gertler did 172 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,159 not reply to Alja's Zra's request for a comment. Zuckerman's 173 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,759 relationship with Epstein, who died in twenty nineteen while awaiting 174 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:10,840 trial on sex trafficking charges, occasionally made headlines during the 175 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,440 early two thousands, before Epstein's two thousand and eight conviction 176 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,039 for soliciting a minor for prostitution. In two thousand and three, 177 00:11:19,159 --> 00:11:23,799 Zuckerman partnered with Epstein and several other prominent businessmen, including 178 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,440 the disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, in an unsuccessful bid 179 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,320 to buy New York Magazine. The two teamed up again 180 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:35,080 the following year to invest twenty five million in the 181 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,080 short lived relaunch of the entertainment in gossip magazine Radar. 182 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:42,480 And We've talked about the New York Magazine bid plenty 183 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:48,080 of times. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and mort Zuckerman. Are 184 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,600 we calling that Predators Inc? LLC? Or something like holy shit, 185 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,320 I'm surprised that Jimmy Saville wasn't part of that team. 186 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,200 Investigative files released by the US Department of Justice in 187 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,080 January showed that the late financier viewed Zuckerman as a 188 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,320 client and close associate, as well as a business partner. 189 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:11,399 In twenty thirteen, Epstein drew up a twenty one million 190 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:16,600 dollar proposal to provide Zuckerman with analyzing, evaluating, planning, and 191 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,879 other services relating to the passing of his estate. According 192 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:24,240 to emails in the files, and that's what Epstein really 193 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,240 was doing. That's what his money maker was, if you will, 194 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,320 the thing that got him in the door. He knew 195 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,000 how to move money, he knew how to hide it, 196 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,960 and he knew how to make sure you didn't have 197 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,399 to claim it. And that's what opened the door for 198 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Epstein into this world. Epstein also pressured Zuckerman to alter 199 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:49,120 coverage of his alleged sexual abuse of girls in the 200 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,360 New York Daili News, suggesting a proposed answer to questions 201 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:55,879 put to him by the newspaper in two thousand and nine. 202 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,519 Zuckerman owned the New York Daily News at the time. 203 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,440 You know, the whole entire media was in on it. It's 204 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,679 laughable when the legacy media talks about how nobody knew 205 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,320 about this, nobody had any idea what Epstein was. Yo. 206 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,279 If my dumbass knew, I promise you people in those 207 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,879 newsrooms they knew too. The difference is they didn't care, 208 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:19,519 And if I'm keeping it a buck, I don't think 209 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 they care now either, not about the whole story. They 210 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:25,759 care about making their political points, they care about trying 211 00:13:25,759 --> 00:13:28,080 to use it as a cudgel. But do they care 212 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,279 about the story overall? I have my doubts, But as 213 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,320 far as Zuckerman goes, there's no doubt that there was 214 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,720 a deep relationship between him and Jeffrey Epstein, and what 215 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,120 was speculation previously about how deep those ties ran has 216 00:13:42,159 --> 00:13:45,080 now been confirmed by the emails in the files, and 217 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,399 I think it just shows you once again how deep 218 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,879 the tentacles of Jeffrey Epstein reached, and just how many 219 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:56,000 powerful people were affording with them and in some cases 220 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:01,320 enabling them. And folks, we've only begun to scratch the surface, 221 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,200 So like usual, we're going to continue swimming through the 222 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:09,919 muck looking for that clarity. All the information that goes 223 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,519 with this episode can be found in the description box.