WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:08.560 Good evening and welcome to the Good Trouble Show. I'm 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:09.439 Matt Ford. 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.279 A few hours ago, the Pentagon released its second batch 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.960 of declassified UAP files, sixty four new records. In this time, 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.199 most of them were actually video. Tonight we go through it. 6 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.640 We're going to go through just kind of a handful 7 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.800 of them. Some more's my first time seeing most of these, 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:29.239 and the documents. 9 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.320 We're going to go through some of those as well. 10 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.640 And a clip the Pentagon itself labeled F sixteen shoots 11 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.759 down a UAP over lake here on. I can never 12 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.280 remember how to pronounce that. And we're going to do 13 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.759 this live. We are live right now, and here's the deal. 14 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.479 Drop your questions in the chat as we go. We 15 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.000 are taking audience questions at the end of the show 16 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:53.759 and we'll get to as many as we can. Put 17 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.240 your questions in all caps, so are Good Trouble Show 18 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:01.880 moderators who have volunteered their time will be able to 19 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.200 recognize what's in the chat, what's a question, and what's not. 20 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:05.840 Now. 21 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:09.200 I've got two people with me tonight who live and 22 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:13.560 breathe the issue. Let's bring them in on your left 23 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:16.200 joining me tonight. We have two leaders are both from 24 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:20.920 the Disclosure Foundation, a non partisan nonprofit built to push 25 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:24.359 this exact issue into the light. On your left, there 26 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:28.480 we have Jordan Flowers, the Foundation's executive director, twenty years 27 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:33.319 in finance and operations and Columbia NBA. Now he's running 28 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.079 one of the most aggressive transparency shops in the country 29 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.480 UAP Transparency, that is. And then on the right, Lester Nare, 30 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:45.519 the Foundation's director of operations, a Princeton educated entrepreneur and 31 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.799 co host of one of the fastest growing science podcasts 32 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.280 out there from First Principles. 33 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:53.959 And here's why these two matter. 34 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:57.920 Four days ago, their organization forced the NSA to hand 35 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.120 over three hundred and thirty four pages of formerly top 36 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.680 secret records. And we're gonna get to that. So Jordan 37 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.639 and Leicester, welcome to the show, you guys hear me? 38 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.319 Okay, yes, sir, Thank you so much. Matt having us. 39 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.039 I appreciate it. 40 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:13.879 Thanks, welcome. 41 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:17.400 Yeah, Lester, how are you're you're actually not too not 42 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.240 too far away. Hopefully in the very near future, I'll 43 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:22.599 be able to have in person guests and we'll you'll 44 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.319 have to be one of one of the first for sure. 45 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.280 So yeah, So let's see here. So Jordan Lester, I 46 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.240 shall throw it to you. Jordan, tell tell us exactly 47 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.919 what is Disclosure Fund for those of a few folks 48 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.599 who probably are not familiar with it. 49 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:42.439 Sure, sure, so thank you for asking. 50 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.960 So the Disclosure Foundation is a five oh one c 51 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:51.719 three nonprofit organization. We are non partisan, and our organization 52 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:56.520 pushes for transparency and education with respect to the UAP topic. 53 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:59.879 We have three legs of the stool for our organization. 54 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:04.639 The first is policy research, the second is a legal function, 55 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:12.439 so for whistleblower representation and protection and also FOYA submissions 56 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.280 and litigation that you mentioned, so for example the NASA, 57 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.759 the NASA the NSA release, the three hundred plus pages 58 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:26.719 there that was conducted by our legal team and there 59 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:30.000 was appeals and you know, we have credible threat of 60 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:34.719 litigation for that process. And then the final is leg 61 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.759 of that still was education and advocacy for the topics. 62 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.800 So we will go speak at universities, we will have 63 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.439 meetings with Congress, we will talk at private clubs that 64 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.479 are interested in this topic. So really from the top 65 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.960 down and the bottom up, we try to educate and 66 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:54.240 navocate for this topic. 67 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.000 Leicester, So four days ago as I mentioned, you guys 68 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.479 forced the NSA to finally cough up three hundred and 69 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:07.360 thirty four pages of these formally top secret Umbra records. So, firstly, 70 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.520 what is umbra and how long did this whole process take? 71 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.000 How did this come about? 72 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.519 So, you know, led by our chief legal officer, Hunt Willis, 73 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.120 him and the legal team have been going after what 74 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.800 was initially identified in the Yates Memo, which came out 75 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.680 quite a few decades ago. The underlying data that sort 76 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.360 of described what was in the Yates memo had never 77 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.480 been had been published in part, but not in whole, 78 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.120 and so part of the process here was to appeal 79 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.800 to have that released in full. And you know, so 80 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:43.920 the National Security Agency is one of our you know, 81 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.839 most prominent intelligence agencies that focuses on you know, foreign 82 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:52.079 signals intelligence, right spying on our foreign adversaries to understand, 83 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.160 you know, what they're doing. And the I think one 84 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.399 of the key aspects here is as we've seen this 85 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:02.120 issue become more prominent recently, there's always been the core 86 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:05.319 story about this going back decades, and there's now sort 87 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:09.800 of a continued exposure of the factual record that you know, 88 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.439 our top sort of Signals Intelligence Agency has been looking 89 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:17.360 at how foreign adversaries have been thinking about and looking 90 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.720 at and addressing this issue. So throughout the document, again 91 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.120 parts of it had been previously declassified but not in full, 92 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.240 we see different aspects such as when they've sent fighters 93 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:32.839 to do intercepts around these descriptions of these encounters. And 94 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:39.000 you know, as we continue to push for more clarity 95 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.839 around this, ensuring that the historical record around this issue 96 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.920 is well defined is important because we're not going to 97 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.759 end up being in a situation at this point where 98 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.439 this is brought up as something that just started happening 99 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:54.959 in twenty seventeen. 100 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.839 Right, Yeah, that makes sense now now, Jordan, the very 101 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:05.079 first release, what was your reaction to it was? 102 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:06.199 Was it a nothing burger? 103 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:11.519 And this is just speaking on your own personal opinion, 104 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.759 not the official opinion of Disclosure Fund. 105 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:25.800 Sure, my main takeaway there was that it is incredible 106 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:31.120 that we have now the power of the presidency behind 107 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.399 transparency for the UAP topic. 108 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.120 You know, there were one hundred and sixty something records 109 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:41.800 that were released. Were some of them available prior to that? Yes, 110 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:43.480 some of them were available prior to. 111 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:48.639 That, And detractors love to focus on that on that fact, 112 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.279 but many of the records were new, and I would 113 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:55.839 suggest we focus on the records that were new. Many 114 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:59.399 of them were newly declassified records and videos that the 115 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:00.680 public hadn't seen before. 116 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:06.000 And but again not to miss the forest for the trees. 117 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:10.680 In that first release, it is incredible that you have, 118 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:17.800 you know, this pursue program the presidential unseiling I'm blanking 119 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:22.000 on the acronym, but yeah, a presidential unsealing effort for 120 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:27.560 the UAP topic, right, that is incredibly powerful. We have 121 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:32.319 never had that before and that this really puts us 122 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:39.439 in an unprecedented situation to make progress with transparency on 123 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.680 this topic. And then of course we have a second 124 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.079 release of an incredible amount of videos and we can 125 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.959 talk about the PDFs in there too, that further add 126 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:56.399 to fuel to the fire and substantiate not only that 127 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.879 there is a there there and that significant documents exist 128 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:07.199 dating back seventy eighty years, but that you know these 129 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.600 have been there, they haven't been released, and they show 130 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:16.160 things that clearly demonstrate that we do not have control 131 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:21.160 of our airspace and we do not understand what these 132 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:21.639 things are. 133 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.519 Absolutely, and Lester, I'm curious your perspective on this. 134 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:28.959 It seems to me if. 135 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.000 If there were you know, this whole thing was just 136 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.120 a nothing burger, there's there's nothing to see here, it's 137 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:39.360 all balloons and air trash and whatnot, why would we 138 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:46.240 today still be you know, studying this stuff and the 139 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.159 military is still paying attention to it. 140 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.879 If if you if you know, we've been looking. 141 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.440 At it obviously for a very long time going you know, 142 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.159 going way way back. It's like, I would think that 143 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.240 if there were nothing to this, all of the US, 144 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.759 all of these records and investigations that we're done to this, 145 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.200 are done with this, and back in the fifties, sixties 146 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.759 and certainly before that would have been the end of it, 147 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.320 and they would have determined, oh, there's nothing to see here, 148 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:15.639 and we wouldn't be looking at this stuff today because 149 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:16.639 they would have figured it out. 150 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.240 What do you think, Yeah, I think, just piggybacking on 151 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.440 what Jordan said, I think we have to recall, you know, 152 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.320 less than two to three years ago. One of the 153 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.039 things that the public has been told about this issue 154 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:31.360 is that there's nothing to see here. We're not in 155 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.480 the UAP business. And you know, part of this release 156 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:36.679 is that there's an about face on this idea that 157 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:40.399 you know, the US government has not been engaging in 158 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.519 earnest on this issue for quite some time, and I 159 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.320 think to your point. You know, one of the largest 160 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.840 line items in the US government's budget is for our 161 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.679 military and intelligence communities. So if we're spending all these 162 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.759 resources on something that's not relevant, you know, we need 163 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.720 to better allocate that funding. But clearly, not only historically 164 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.039 but contemporaneously, this is still being viewed as an issue. 165 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.080 I mean recall that the Senate mandated the creation of 166 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:11.320 the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office because members of the 167 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.720 Armed forces have been saying, we're interacting with stuff on 168 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.759 a regular basis that we don't have a protocol to 169 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.080 deal with and we don't have a way to report, 170 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.639 and we need to get our arms around, especially given 171 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.960 the foot the global footprint that we have across the 172 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.440 planet as it relates to our servicemen and women. So 173 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:34.320 as a practical matter, this is really a phase shift 174 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:38.200 in how the US government is positioning their engagement with 175 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:41.320 this topic. That is net new. We've not actually had 176 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:48.000 this before, and that environment creates the foundation, for example, 177 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.919 our NSA release when we now go and appeal to 178 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:55.000 release more records around this issue. There's now a presidential 179 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.639 mandate that says the UAP issue is part of the 180 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.720 declassification process, and so the push back that can be 181 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:05.120 done when you have civilian and organizational efforts to declassify 182 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.720 things beyond what's a part of the pursuit program actually 183 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:12.519 becomes easier to do because the judiciary now has to 184 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:14.720 look at this and say, well, the mandate says that 185 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.120 this is no longer something that's you know, hyper classified 186 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.919 or that we don't want to talk to the public about. 187 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:21.879 So I think there's a lot of aspects to this, 188 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.039 not only in the release but in the broader context 189 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.039 that are a meaningful a sea change from where we've 190 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.799 been over the last several years. 191 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.279 Got it so now, Jordan, And of course I was 192 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.960 originally with what was UAP Disclosure Fund. You know, my 193 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.720 time there was was short, but I very much enjoyed 194 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.080 it as director of strategy, and I know firsthand for 195 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:48.919 my time there, there is considerable work that Disclosure Foundation 196 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.159 is doing on Capitol Hill, and I know when I 197 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.360 was there, you know, we were having meetings with members 198 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:59.440 of Congress. Jordan, are you sensing an increased interest on 199 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:03.519 capital from the work that Disclosure Foundation is doing. Are 200 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.440 you sensing an increased interest in this topic for more 201 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:12.080 lawmakers than say, a year ago, especially now that Trump 202 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:15.440 is clearly on this bandwagon of getting this stuff out. 203 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:21.200 Absolutely, I think you see that in terms of the 204 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:26.240 results that we're observing right now. Clearly, you know, the 205 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:30.279 Task Force on Declassification of Federal secrets has or the 206 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.360 Transparency Task Force has been pushing hard on multiple fronts 207 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:36.039 for that. 208 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.080 But also you know, in some of. 209 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:44.759 These meetings recently that we've had with lawmakers, they've explicitly 210 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:47.200 communicated this shift. 211 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.039 And why have they done that. 212 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.480 They have done that because they have recently been in 213 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:59.919 briefings where they have seen profound incursions on our sensitive 214 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:06.679 airspace and sensitive facilities in this country that undeniably present 215 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.799 a problem for national security, and they do not know 216 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.840 what these things are, we do not appear to be 217 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:20.480 able to defend against them, and our scentive assets are exposed. 218 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.120 I think that is one of the core reasons why 219 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:29.919 this is being elevated dramatically and at a much more 220 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:34.879 rapid rapid pace we've seen. I believe it was Representative 221 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:40.600 Burchett and perhaps also Representative Burlison comment on some of 222 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:45.240 these briefings that they received, and I think Burchett mentioned 223 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.720 that Steve Scalise was in one of these briefings and 224 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:54.120 the people's jaws were on the floor when they. 225 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.799 Showed the videos. And I actually think that. 226 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:59.559 Putting a few of the pieces together, it appears that 227 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.600 one of the briefings, I believe was about this late 228 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:09.240 twenty twenty five incursion. That there are documents in release 229 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.440 number one and Release number two. There are documents in 230 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:17.000 each of these releases that relate to that single incursion 231 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:20.440 that happened in late twenty twenty five, and we can 232 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.919 talk about that in more detail later. But I think 233 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:31.240 that it is the volume and frequency and brazenness of 234 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:36.480 these incursions that have now been captured across with multi 235 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:42.080 multi sensor platforms that make this undeniable for anyone who 236 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:46.519 has received these briefings. And that's why it's escalated from 237 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.159 you know, maybe a top ten priority maybe not to 238 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:55.000 like a top three priority for this administration. 239 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.679 Yeah, and are you hearing Lester that there is yet 240 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.559 more another tranche to come, a third one. 241 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.600 I think we've clearly seen that the administration at least 242 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:10.279 that a minimum sees for you know, whatever reason a 243 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:14.200 pr benefit around this. I mean, the first release, as 244 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.200 stated by the Department of War, received a billion users 245 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:21.519 you know, globally visiting in a effectively less than two 246 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.000 week period. And so this is clearly something that they're 247 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.960 going to dig in on, and there does seem to 248 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.960 continue to be the demand and the ability to respond 249 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.440 with more here. You know, with this release, what we 250 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.480 know is these there were forty six videos that were 251 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:44.519 requested specifically by Federal Task Force on Declassification, forty four 252 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.279 of which were a part of this release, two of 253 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:52.120 which were missing. And there's several documents that are now 254 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:59.200 ostensibly declassified that don't have accompanying video released alongside of it. 255 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:03.039 So that creates a very easy on ramp for fallow 256 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.639 up releases to say, we've already we already know these 257 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:09.200 events now exist. Where are the videos that accompany these 258 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.120 reports that have clearly already been declassified? 259 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:13.279 Right? 260 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.399 Yeah, that makes sense, So so let's dig into this thing. 261 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.559 So again, we've got uh got a bunch of videos records, 262 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.080 and I also want to point out to Disclosure Foundation 263 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:29.039 is not in the business of analyzing videos uap stuff. 264 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.799 I you know, even on this show, I don't get 265 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:33.799 into this because I don't you know, I don't know 266 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.600 what's real and what's not. I'm I'm reacting to it 267 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.120 the same way as everyone else, so and and I'm 268 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.600 seeing a lot of this for the first time. So 269 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.759 the point here is to look at it just your 270 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.960 personal reactions, personal opinions. 271 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.840 Uh and uh yeah, so super casual. 272 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.720 We put obviously, we put this show together very last 273 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.919 second because none of us got a got a heads 274 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.639 up on any of this thing. No no embargo videos. Okay, 275 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:05.319 so I'm gonna go here to uh, let's sing, bring 276 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.200 up the website. 277 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.079 I appreciate that, Matt, while you're while you're bringing up 278 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.119 the website, thank you for pointing that out. Yeah, we 279 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.839 often say, as you recall internally, that we're not in 280 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.599 the siting's business at the Disclosure Foundation. You know, we 281 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:23.720 think it's fraught to you know, another of us are 282 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:28.759 sensored experts, and we think it's fraught to attach the 283 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:32.039 credibility of an organization to any specific siting. 284 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:32.319 Or what have you. 285 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.680 But that's kind of what makes it difficult about the 286 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:38.000 situation we're in now, right it's that this is a 287 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:44.599 document dump with no synthesis, with no no analysis, no contextualization, 288 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:49.880 no synthesis, and so the public is I mean, I'm 289 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:56.119 blown away at the the messaging coming from you know, 290 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.920 the Public Affairs Office that you know, basically we have 291 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.519 nothing else to offer you. The public can make of 292 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:05.640 it what they will, and. 293 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:06.599 You know, I'm sorry. 294 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:10.119 I thought it was your job to take the tax 295 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.480 dollars that we give you and figure out what these 296 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.200 things are that are flying around over our airspace. 297 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:19.559 So it's difficult to not want to. 298 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:24.680 Try to help provide context and have these conversations because 299 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.079 of that just total vacuum, right. 300 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:35.079 Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. We're paying hundreds of millions 301 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:39.160 of dollars. I mean, I can tell you that the 302 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:43.279 Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, 303 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:49.359 they spent nearly one billion dollars on information and perception management. 304 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.200 With sand Corp. It was like eight hundred million, so 305 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.799 I mean an insane amount. And oh, by the way, 306 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:00.240 that that same contract actually it's not sand Corp any more. 307 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.119 It's a company called Arlow Solutions. So they're the ones 308 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.160 running the shop at Arrow. They are the contractor running 309 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.440 the shop at Arrow, and they are also the same 310 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:13.839 company doing information and perception management, both under the same 311 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.960 roof of OUSD I and S. 312 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.440 So I don't know, that's pretty that's pretty fishy to me. 313 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.480 And you and again touching on what you're you know 314 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:27.559 what you just mentioned, Jordan, we're paying I mean tons 315 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:33.680 upon tons of taxpayer dollars. And where is the Arrow analysis? 316 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:38.119 Where are the reports the first historical report from Arrow? 317 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.559 A fifth grader could have done a better job right 318 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:42.640 in that thing. So here we are, I mean, we're 319 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.559 grateful for these videos. We're certainly grateful to President Trump 320 00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:50.039 and the administration for putting this out. We know whether 321 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:52.680 President has frankly had that you know what to do it. 322 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:55.559 But you know, we need to see more from Arrow. 323 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.359 Arrow needs to be doing it. It's a damn job. 324 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.599 And and yeah, I'll just leave it at that. 325 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.680 So anyway, I'll catch up in here briefly relate with 326 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:09.920 one additional note, which is, you know, both the intelligence 327 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.720 assessments and technical assessments related to these and other events exists, 328 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.440 and so the lack of the sharing of those. You 329 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.519 can maybe make the argument around the technical assessments, but 330 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:24.680 we have national intelligence assessments on a variety of topics 331 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.279 that are made available to the Congress and the public, 332 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:32.079 which gives confidence levels and future looking analysis on what 333 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:35.880 is our best interpretation of what it is we're dealing with. 334 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:37.920 And that is yet to be a part of the 335 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.079 releases that we've seen so far, but it is there, 336 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.680 especially given when you look at the historical documentation, you 337 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.599 do begin to see some of that, and we saw 338 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.519 in some of the PDF documents in this release that 339 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:55.000 some of that context is a part of the written documentation. 340 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:57.480 It is not at a level where you can have 341 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.480 independent scientific researchers begin to engage with it. But this 342 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:04.400 is stuff that certainly exists but has yet to be 343 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:05.759 shared with the public. 344 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.359 Yeah, and I think it's it's high time. 345 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:14.079 Last week we had intelligence analyst Sarah Gammon, and who 346 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.319 makes her living looking at these looking at videos and 347 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.880 providing an intelligence assessment. And some of the videos that 348 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.000 came out in that first trench she had actually vetted. 349 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:29.359 Now she wasn't allowed to comment on which ones she vetted, 350 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.000 but the thing that she was pointing out was that 351 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:37.400 without an arrow assessment, a public assessment, and without the 352 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.759 sensor data, you know, the stuff that's redacted in the 353 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.559 heads up display in these videos. Her point was, you 354 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:50.119 can't really it's difficult to analyze them without that data. 355 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.440 Without that data, obviously the public isn't going to be 356 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.599 able to see that data because it's classified. So that 357 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:01.240 is all the more reason for ARROW to provide a 358 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.680 unclassified assessment of what we're looking at. In my in 359 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:09.160 my opinion, So okay, let's let's look at some stuff here. Okay, 360 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.960 So again I'm going to bring up the bring up this. 361 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.599 So this is I can't see the thing. Let's see 362 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:19.960 what is this? 363 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.720 War dot gov? So, war dot gov. You go to 364 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:29.519 the to the UAP part and and you know, I 365 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:31.240 have to say, so it says here the Department of 366 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.759 Wards just released the second tronch. 367 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:35.079 First time I'd ever heard that word. 368 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.359 By the way of records under pursue, the first tronch 369 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.720 should be the that should be a drinking game, although 370 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.759 I don't drink was released on May eighth. Scroll down 371 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:47.160 to view the second trench released on May twenty second. 372 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:47.839 Today. 373 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:53.079 So and Donald Trump, based on the tremendous, tremendous interest shown, 374 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.799 I will be directing the Secretary of War and other 375 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:59.799 relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying 376 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:05.920 releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life. Interesting 377 00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:11.119 that he says that unidentified Aerial Phenomena UAP and Unidentified 378 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:15.319 flying objects UFOs, and any and all other information connected 379 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.920 to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters. 380 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:24.039 God bless America. Okay, so I agree with everything he 381 00:23:24.079 --> 00:23:27.640 says here. Okay, so the thing that's cool, So you 382 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:31.000 can go to the first release look at stuff, but 383 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:34.160 we're going to look here at the second release. You 384 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:39.440 can download all of the documents sevn d megabytes. You 385 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:43.000 can also download all of the videos five point six gigabytes. 386 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:47.039 But what Arrows has done a good job of setting up, 387 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.440 I must say, is this search engine. And Leicester was 388 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.720 kind of walking me through how some of this some 389 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.000 of this works. But you know, you can come in here. 390 00:23:55.119 --> 00:24:00.359 You can type a DISC and it'll just show you, 391 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.200 uh you know, what is related to that word disc. 392 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.960 Or I'll type in orb. Actually an interesting ORB doesn't 393 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:10.960 come up. But uh, over on the right here you 394 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:12.279 have the ability to filter. 395 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.400 So uh, you know, we can look at all types. 396 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:16.480 Look up at ORB. 397 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.680 I'm gonna type in Kirkpatrick now he's you know, he's 398 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:25.440 busy making money at Oakridge. And uh and here what 399 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:26.200 we're gonna dow? 400 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.160 So u s O is one is listed a few 401 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:30.160 times in this release. 402 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:33.480 Really, h us what is us O. 403 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:36.880 Sub Merged objects? 404 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.200 Oh okay, all right, well let's start there, okay. 405 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:42.880 So anyway, so yeah, you can type in a thing 406 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:45.759 filter by all types. So we're just gonna look at 407 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:50.640 videos right now, and uh yeah, here we go. So, uh, 408 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:57.119 let's see that's pretty corazy. So that's underwater. I didn't 409 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.599 realize that the first time I saw that, I that 410 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:07.440 these were I didn't see the USO part. I thought this, 411 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.480 these are flying against clouds. So yeah, so I'm just 412 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:14.000 gonna let it play here, and guys feel free to. 413 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:16.319 Chime in. 414 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:21.559 You know. I would say one thing, just as a 415 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:22.440 little table. 416 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.559 Setting for some of these videos that I think is interesting, 417 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.200 there's a what I can only describe as a disclaimer 418 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:30.880 on the description. 419 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:33.319 Field in the. 420 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:39.440 In the each each file has like a page and 421 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.559 like a description field, and the videos have this disclaimer 422 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:46.319 that says something to the effect of eight members of 423 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:51.079 Congress requested these videos on I think it was like 424 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.960 March sixth, twenty twenty six or something like that, there's 425 00:25:55.920 --> 00:26:00.359 a date associated with it, and that then Arrow went 426 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:06.839 and found these documents on whatever servers these things were on. 427 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:12.440 It's really interesting context because it implies that you know, 428 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.279 which there's been some discussion about on social media, and 429 00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:18.559 you know where this list came from, et cetera, That 430 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.319 it was members of Congress that had the list of 431 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.720 these videos and provided it to Arrow and said we 432 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:33.680 know these exist, go get them, as opposed to the 433 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:38.079 other way around of Arrow saying, hey, we've done our job, 434 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.240 We've found these things, Congress, would you like to come 435 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.279 take a look at them. I mean that fact pattern 436 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:51.240 in itself is interesting for the dynamic at play there 437 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.079 of what is happening at Arrow and what is Congress 438 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.319 trying to get released. So I thought some of that 439 00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.359 context was was interesting and helpful. I know it's not 440 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.599 germane to this specific video, but thought it was worth 441 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.680 pointing out to your your audience here. 442 00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:10.400 I agree. 443 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.720 You know what's truly fascinating at the beginning of this 444 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:16.680 video the speed at which those things are moving. 445 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.880 It's pretty h pretty pretty insane less journey. 446 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:25.079 Any thoughts, I don't really have much to add here, 447 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.640 I think, you know, just in talking about you know, 448 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.079 I think one of the things that happens with these 449 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.319 video releases is we've so far in this targe we 450 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.240 have gotten a few like colorful motion video as opposed 451 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:43.839 to forward looking infrared or fleer video. And for a 452 00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.039 lot of the general public, when we're looking at forward 453 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.279 looking infrared, you know, we don't people don't have a 454 00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.279 context to really understand what they're looking at. And so 455 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.759 I think some of the ones in this batch from 456 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.920 the flear that were you know, put out on you know, 457 00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.960 the ABC News launched earlier were some of the spherical 458 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.640 and instantaneous movement stuff, which again continues to need further 459 00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.160 analysis to understand what's really going on here. But in 460 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.839 this batch we did see for the first time color 461 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:16.000 and full motion video, which we see all the time 462 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:22.640 when it comes to our current misadventures or adventures abroad, 463 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.640 where within almost real time we will get color four 464 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.240 K from fighters, etc. So there is still a delta 465 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.759 between you know, what the capability set is and what 466 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.960 could be released when it's in other categories of information 467 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.880 versus as it relates to this subject. But I think 468 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.000 one difference here is that we did see a few 469 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.240 color videos for the first time. 470 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.960 Agreed. Okay, so let's see here. We're going to type in. 471 00:28:50.200 --> 00:29:07.640 Apparently Lake Huron is of interest. Beautiful black screen, wait 472 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:08.079 for it. 473 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:17.759 There we go. Okay, wow, this is uh this thing 474 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.119 looks like it has some kind of what. 475 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.480 I'm going to echo on your mic, Matt currently, how 476 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:27.759 about now still there? 477 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.839 Okay, I've been having that for some reason. Let's see. 478 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:35.279 Oh I know why appears to be gone? 479 00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:42.200 Now okay, let's see. Can you hear me? Is did 480 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:43.200 the echo go away? 481 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:43.920 Yes? 482 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:44.759 Okay? 483 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:45.000 Good? 484 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.400 Uh? Yeah, So so this one's interesting. 485 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:55.559 It's I don't know if that's the jellyfish or or 486 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:56.559 something that it's got a. 487 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:01.519 Tail hanging down and uh, I'm just gonna freeze it there. 488 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:05.400 And I don't know what that is. 489 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.759 It looks like, I don't know, maybe the drone went 490 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.359 through the car wash or something. 491 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.480 I have no idea what the hell that is. 492 00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:18.079 That's yeah. 493 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.559 I'm I'm no expert analyst here with respect to that, 494 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.319 but I don't know if balloons explode in that kind 495 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:31.000 of way. But I'm sure the sleuths out there can 496 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.279 I can try to answer that for us. 497 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.680 Yeah, This appears to be to have been a part 498 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.160 of the sort of twenty twenty three shootdowns that where 499 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.319 we had the Chinese spy balloon that led to a 500 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:47.240 variety of shootdowns across the continental United States. It is 501 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.880 interesting that they released the Lake Huron one, but the 502 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.240 I believe it was in dead Horse, Alaska, the one that, 503 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:59.839 if our call correctly, General Glenn van Heirk had come 504 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.039 in an interview and made some pretty interesting comments around 505 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:06.799 that one still appears to not be a part of 506 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.279 this release and was the one that had the most 507 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.119 amount of let's call mystique around it, and a lot 508 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.640 of people who have been following this issue have been 509 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.559 demanding be released in here. So I do believe that 510 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.000 this is a part of that twenty twenty three shootdown 511 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:26.960 kind of era that we had for a brief period 512 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.759 of time where for folks who might not remember what 513 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.799 initially started that whole process was, you know, the initial 514 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.759 Chinese Bible and that was shot off the coast of 515 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.519 I believe it was South Carolina apparently. You know, when 516 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.519 we have all these tracking and radar systems, they are 517 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.319 you know, these are military systems, so they're tuned to 518 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.759 specific use cases which are more related to identifying you know, 519 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.839 foreign intelligence drones and other apparatus fighters, etc. And they 520 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.920 turned the filters off or down, and then all of 521 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.200 a sudden started seeing all of this additional stuff that 522 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.559 they had not previously seen, and there was a little 523 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.400 bit of then a you know, oh my god, we 524 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:10.119 have to take care of this. You know, there's all 525 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.480 these objects, what's going on? And that kind of led 526 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.960 to all of these shootdowns that being a part of 527 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.319 that that sort of time period, at which point they realized, 528 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.720 you probably shouldn't be you know, having fifty million dollars 529 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.119 or however much of his missiles over you know, densely 530 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.039 populated areas to try to deal with this issue. 531 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.799 Okay, agreed. 532 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.079 Yeah, And of course that's the one that we hear 533 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.440 was actually a UAP and not a Chinese drone, the 534 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.160 one that they're they're not wanting to release. 535 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:44.240 Okay, let's let's look. I typed in here clouds. 536 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.079 Sean Kirkpatrick called me up and said, type clouds in 537 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:52.200 there and you'll see some really interesting stuff. So let's 538 00:32:52.240 --> 00:33:15.440 see here. This one is crazy. You know, from what 539 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.160 I can tell, this thing looks pretty damn big. Uh, 540 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:22.960 you know, you see this thing kind of going in 541 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.519 and out of in and out of the clouds. Uh. 542 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.279 Of course, we don't know the altitude or anything, but 543 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:37.160 that is definitely not a balloon. It's definitely maneuvering, you know. 544 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.200 If you you know, if we go back and you watch, 545 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:48.880 I mean that's made that's a pretty significant, uh change 546 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.440 in direction and seeing this thing go in and out 547 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:53.160 of the clouds. 548 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:56.720 Yeah. Wow, one of. 549 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.799 The things that our balloons don't make right angle turns. Uh, 550 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.519 you know, I'm sorry, Lester, go ahead. 551 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.240 But no, no, So I think this you know again, 552 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.400 if you look at the broader context of commentary that's 553 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.159 been made around this stuff. So one of the challenges 554 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.159 with a lot of these is when you don't have 555 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.519 like a background context, it's hard to be able to 556 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:22.400 gauge size and speed and all these other factors. So 557 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.039 that that's one of the challenges here. But the sort 558 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:29.760 of metallic spheres is something that you know, doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, 559 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.440 you know, at during his time as director of the 560 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:37.880 UL Demand Anomaly Resolution Office, publicly stated that these are 561 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.280 a morphology that we are consistently seeing, you know, globally 562 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:47.719 and don't or at least publicly, don't have an explanation 563 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:49.960 that they want to provide as to what they are, 564 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.039 what they relate to, and and so that was at 565 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.800 least one of the quote unquote morphologies that at the time, 566 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.559 for whatever reason he was willing to is sort of 567 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.760 outside of the quote inventories of domestic or foreign you know, 568 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.679 adversaries that we can kind of categorize easily, right. 569 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:14.239 Agreed, Okay, Let's let's take a look at Let's see 570 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.199 where the do we know if the other two ones 571 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.760 with clouds? Was there anything useful there? I haven't looked 572 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:29.320 at these. Let's take a look. This is a pretty 573 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.239 clear video. I mean the amount of detail. Wow, Okay, 574 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:53.480 I guess we can't look there. And the other the 575 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.800 other thing that comes to mind too, is if if 576 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:05.360 this were an aircraft or a bird, something that drone 577 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:10.320 operators and pilots are used to seeing, they they would 578 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.119 not be spending their time filming something like this. If 579 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.639 these guys they're there, and women, these men and women 580 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.480 they're you know, millions of dollars of training is invested 581 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:26.199 in in UH into training these people to identify what 582 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:31.840 is of interest and a bird, a seagull, uh, and 583 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.280 most certainly air trash is not going to be of interest. 584 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:41.039 And uh, you know, and clearly they are tracking this thing. Uh, 585 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:45.199 it has drawn their attention. So that's uh, that's a 586 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.719 good one. Let's see, we'll go into see what the 587 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.840 third one is. I wonder if this is kind of 588 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.239 the same same area and guys feel free to jump in. 589 00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.159 So I think another aspect of like you know, as 590 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:01.400 the as the public tries to you know, again, these 591 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.079 aren't structured, these are document dumps, and so the question 592 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:08.599 is like, ultimately, what are we looking for here? And 593 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.679 you know, as we sort of I think mentioned earlier, 594 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.760 the the A TIP framework seems to be an entry 595 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.880 point in terms of trying to be able to have 596 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.320 some kind of standards of evidence around uh, you know, 597 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.840 identifying the possibility that there's quote anomalist technology happening. So 598 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:32.000 you know, any of any of these flear videos or 599 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.840 full motion video capture that encapsulate two or more of 600 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:41.199 these you know observables, uh, are going to be the 601 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.840 things of most interest. You know, this covers stuff such 602 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.280 as you know, quote unquote anti gravity lift, hypersonic velocity 603 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.800 without signatures, which again is a technical description which is 604 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:54.800 why you want flear because that's part of why you 605 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.400 can tell those signatures are there, trans medium travel, Uh, 606 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:03.880 you know, there's biological effect is another category. And so 607 00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.840 what really would be a category of something that would 608 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:11.360 require or particularly for the scientific community get the more engaged, 609 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:14.119 is are we actually seeing something that cannot just be 610 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:18.480 pointed to as being any of the continued prosaic explanations 611 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:22.920 that we see normally, which is birds, balloons, natural phenomena, 612 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.519 and a couple of dynamics that would move the conversation 613 00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.400 into this has real potential to be quote anomaloust technology 614 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.239 would be things that encapsulate you know, two or more 615 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.199 of these observables as sort of defined by the Advanced 616 00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:45.440 Aerospace Threat Identification Program or ASAP the Advanced Aerospace Weapons 617 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.280 Systems Applications Program as again a means to distinguish between 618 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:56.119 what we would call as mundane and not interesting versus interesting. 619 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.559 And so currently there clearly seems to be a position 620 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:03.480 that we're not going to make that distinction in these releases, 621 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:07.199 and I think moving forward, part of the challenge here 622 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.000 is I sort of say we sort of have the 623 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.440 Tarantino Nolan problem, which is we've already gotten the end 624 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.880 of the movie first, you know, post the Grush hearings 625 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.599 in twenty twenty three, the public has been identified as like, 626 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:24.639 what the core most sensational allegation is that there are 627 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:29.199 technological objects of non human origin both that are near 628 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.920 Earth in atmosphere and also have physical material captured by 629 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.880 the US government. This part of the conversation has been 630 00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:40.519 mostly absent from the current conversation because that's the conclusion 631 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.079 has already been defined. You know, at the beginning of 632 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.400 this process, much of the public demand is basically trying 633 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.239 to fast forward to the end of the movie and say, Okay, 634 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.000 well we already know what the end of the movie is, 635 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.199 and where is that stuff? And so there's a sort 636 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.960 of a gap between what the expectation that's been said 637 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.519 about what the US government has and these initial tranches 638 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.519 that again and are you know, in some cases some 639 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.840 have what appear to be maybe two or more of 640 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.199 these observables that would put it in that category of 641 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.559 anomalous technology, but they're not limiting it to that, and 642 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.960 a variety of people are trying to then, you know, 643 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.719 make a characterization about there's muddying of the waters. That's 644 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.360 happening here between mixing mundane with the non mundane as 645 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.719 a means to kind of obfuscate what's happening here, right. 646 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.039 Yeah, I totally agree. 647 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:32.679 So interesting. 648 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.599 I got a message from a whistleblower who said, so, 649 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.719 I guess ERO doesn't feel like analyzing anything or producing 650 00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.719 the reports that are late apparently nothing. Volume two is 651 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.519 almost two years late, and no twenty twenty five annual report, 652 00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.840 just giving the middle finger to Congress. 653 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.960 And that certainly certainly seems to be the case. It's like, 654 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:57.039 what the hell are they doing? 655 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.840 Yeah, there was messaging out of the Public Affairs Office recently, 656 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.320 I think today that said something to the effect of, 657 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:12.239 you know, the aero's trying to complete its statutory obligations 658 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:18.119 by releasing these videos, and of course the d byrony 659 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.760 there is that if they actually cared about completing their 660 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.400 statutory obligations, they would have turned in their homework on 661 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.719 time and not be in violation of law by not 662 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.199 having completed that homework, and perhaps would not have have 663 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.800 the have had the ball taken from them by the 664 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.480 executive branch to advance down the field here. So you know, 665 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.800 a little bit it's a little bit rich to get 666 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:53.079 some of those to accept some of those comments from 667 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.079 today coming out of the Public Affairs Office. 668 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.719 Yeah, yeah, the bullshit office. 669 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.239 Okay, so we're going to take a break from doing 670 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.840 some videos and actually look at a couple of the PDFs, 671 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.599 and Jordan, you brought this one up that I'm going 672 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.400 to bring up here that is. 673 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:16.239 Interesting, and let's you can zoom it in here. Let's 674 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:17.440 see maybe maybe not. 675 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.400 Let's see. 676 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.960 Let's see, clearly are not well rehearsed here. Here we go. 677 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.880 Okay, now what out of this? 678 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:29.679 Let's see, I'll just read it here. 679 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.840 Late twenty twenty five, during evening hours, I, a senior 680 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.440 US intelligence officer, along with the colleague and two pilots, 681 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.119 departed Joint Operations Center and a helicopter. Mission was to 682 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.760 investigate loud thuds heard in the mountains on the Test Range, 683 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.400 which coincided with UAP phenomena UAP sidings reported over the 684 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:52.400 previous several nights. Waimed to remote search mountain areas or 685 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.760 possible debris or objects that might explain to orb like sidings. 686 00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:02.079 After leaving JLC, we flew low outitude map the Earth 687 00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:05.000 rout through the mountain range for several hours. Multiple times 688 00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.519 we spotted debris on the ground and descended for closer inspection. 689 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.880 Each time we determined it was remnants for. 690 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.440 Rockets and other projectiles that had crashed during years of 691 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:18.400 weapons testing, so we continued searching the areas of reported 692 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.559 orb activity. We discovered a large cave entrance with no 693 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.079 visible end in sight. 694 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.639 I know it sounds like Land of the Lost. Maybe 695 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.840 Chaka's in there. 696 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.599 The terrain around the entrance offered no safe landing spot, 697 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.079 so I instructed the pilot to orbit it several times 698 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:35.800 for observation. 699 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.880 We noted the location. Impressed on. 700 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.039 Running low and fuel, we headed to a pre arranged 701 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.320 rendezvous point to meet a ground team. 702 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.719 Excuse me and let my colleague disembark. 703 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.719 The two pilots and I then proceeded to a prepositioned 704 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.679 tanker on the range for refueling. Our plan was to 705 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:58.480 return to base afterwards, but the JLC raider radioed with 706 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.760 the request to search a nearby mountain for debris spotted 707 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.559 by one of the ground teams. By this time, the 708 00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.639 sun had set and the pilot switched to fleer and 709 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.400 MVGS while I continued using the unaided naked eye. After 710 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:15.920 a brief search of the mountain yielded no findings of 711 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.199 pilots began navigating back to JLCT and the mission. I 712 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:23.239 then received a message from JLC radar head detected HITS 713 00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.719 several miles up range from our position, the same area 714 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.400 where UAP activity had been observed on prior nights. I 715 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.360 relayed this to the pilots and we altered course to intercept. 716 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.039 What followed was a series of close UAP encounters lasting 717 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.519 over an hour. En route, ground teams reported spotting UAP 718 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:47.000 on fleer, describing it as super hot, low to the 719 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.599 ground and moving east then south at high speed. The 720 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.559 object then split into two and changed direction again. A 721 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.559 balloon's not going to do that. Upon arrival, we scanned 722 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.320 the area using MVG and fleer and the naked eye. 723 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.639 The ground team suddenly radioed that the object had risen 724 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.960 from the ground, approached within ten feet of the helicopter 725 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.960 dropped below us, then sped away. The pilot observed through 726 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:17.760 mvgs and saw it split into two, smaller into two 727 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.800 as a smaller object emerged before it accelerated out of sight. 728 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:26.519 We briefly pursued, but broke off and unable to match 729 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.920 at speed, and helicopter probably goes around one hundred and 730 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.360 fifty knots maybe two hundred. At one point, the JAILC 731 00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.559 informed us that several fighter jets had launched on a 732 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:40.039 training mission in our operating area and requested their assistance 733 00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.280 to identify. Minutes later, the JLC directed us to nearby 734 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:48.079 radar detections. We took up a hovering position at seven 735 00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.199 hundred feet AGL and the distance we saw countless orange 736 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.440 orbs swarming in all directions against the backdrop of the mountain. 737 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.599 The display lasted several minutes before fading. The JLC then 738 00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:06.639 redirected to our previous position based on fresh radar hits. 739 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.719 I provided coordinates to the pilots of the MVGS. The 740 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.440 pilots and I observed two large orbs flare up side 741 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.480 by side, close to the helicopter stationary and just above 742 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.280 the rotor disc to our right. They were oval shaped, 743 00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.519 orange with a white and yellow center, and emitted light 744 00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:30.440 in all directions. After a few seconds that a third 745 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.519 orb flared up below the pair, followed by a fourth 746 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.599 below that, forming a total of four or five in 747 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:43.480 a T formation. So these things are obviously intelligently controlled. 748 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:47.039 This isn't some weather phenomenon. Moments later, they dimmed in 749 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.320 reverse order remained stationary until they vanished from view. The 750 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.320 entire event lasted ten to fifteen seconds. I didn't take 751 00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:57.519 photos as I was focused on assessing what it was 752 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:02.039 and whether it posed a threat. This encounter, the pilots 753 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.159 briefly considered landing due to the object's proximity, but opted 754 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.920 to remain hovering at seven hundred feet AGL above ground level. 755 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.400 We then spotted the fighter jets entering the visual range 756 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.039 at about twenty three hundred feet AGL, identifiable by their 757 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.280 blinking nave lights. As watched from AFAR, the same type 758 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.480 of orbs appeared directly above the fighters. So these things 759 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.920 are going from seven hundred feet AGL these orbs up 760 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.639 to twenty three thousand feet AGL. They flared up one 761 00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.800 at a time in a horizontal formation, matching the jets' 762 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.119 speed and flight path, so at a minimum, those jets 763 00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.480 are going probably two hundred and fifty knots. They flared 764 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.960 up one at a time in a horizontal formation. After 765 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.320 ten to fifteen seconds, they dimmed sequentially and disappeared. This 766 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.840 repeated several times as the jets transited the airspace and 767 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.119 eventually landed. I remarked to the pilots that it seemed 768 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.519 the same orbs we encountered were now chasing the fighters. 769 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:05.599 We also observed orange orbs flaring up and down US 770 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.719 for several minutes, low and fuel, we decided to return 771 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.960 to the JLC after landing. I briefly spoke with them, 772 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:18.239 mostly to express thanks. We were virtually speechless after these observations. 773 00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:23.440 I then entered the JLC for a quick debrief. Driving home, 774 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:30.000 I mean, holy shit, I mean wow. 775 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.360 Yeah, so what do we okay again? Context Setting. 776 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:43.079 Representative Burroson was on Twitter today saying that this document 777 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:48.519 that you're pointing out is unequivocally the most important document 778 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.360 released today. 779 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:56.960 Now, why is that we note the date? This is 780 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:58.239 late twenty twenty five. 781 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:03.960 If you go on the system and search for this 782 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.559 particular filing, you'll see that it's also linked to some 783 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.400 of the documents from the first release that are marked 784 00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.719 looks like this. It's all blacked out and it says secret, 785 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:20.400 no foreign on it. Right, So these two documents reference 786 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:26.400 the same event. Why would Eric Burrowson be saying that 787 00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.760 this is the most important document in there. And by 788 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.480 the way, there's other folks that have pointed out how 789 00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:38.960 important this is. I believe Dan Warren, who makes great content, 790 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:43.480 has pointed this out. I believe Jeremy Corbell and others 791 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:47.719 that do great work have pointed out this specific incident. 792 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:52.039 Why does Eric Burrelson think that reading the tea leaves 793 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:52.280 for me? 794 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:59.079 It's that this event is one of the briefings, is 795 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:06.039 one of the encouragion which required congressional briefings about and 796 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:12.960 in those congressional briefings, members of Congress saw the videos 797 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:19.960 and the multi sensor platforms that were associated with this incursion. Now, 798 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:25.239 what's interesting is that there aren't any videos posted from 799 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:30.639 for this event in late twenty twenty five, but there's 800 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.679 multiple pieces of writing that substantiated, so that you're left 801 00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:39.880 with the question, why are none of the videos associated. 802 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.440 With this event part of the public release yet? 803 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:49.079 My guess is that you know, our advocates in Congress 804 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:55.440 for this are desperately trying to get those those assets released, 805 00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.119 perhaps only in a subsequent. 806 00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.679 In a subsequent release. So I think that. 807 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.440 These documents are very interesting. The public should be aware 808 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:12.719 of this and should be really clamoring for more detail 809 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:19.719 and for more of the sensor platform data, be it flear, video, 810 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:26.519 radar data, or other corresponding data, for this particular citing 811 00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:31.000 or incursion to be made more clear about what the 812 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:32.039 heck is happening here. 813 00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:34.719 I think that's an excellent point. 814 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:37.320 And you know, and Leicester, one thing that comes to 815 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:43.920 mind is these things are operating in close proximity to 816 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:48.960 rotary aircraft. You know, this thing this report they said 817 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.559 that these orbs were just off I think it was 818 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.679 to the right of their of their main rotor. 819 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.400 They are in a test range. 820 00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:03.480 So this is restricted airspace. I mean, it's it's it's 821 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.599 it's pretty crazy that that people people, as you. 822 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:11.519 Mentioned Jordan, should be clamoring for more UH Lestra. What 823 00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:12.440 are your thoughts on that. 824 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:18.280 I think that's that's certainly true and especially more important 825 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:22.800 in the current twenty twenty six context. And Jordan, you've 826 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.880 mentioned this uh in the last two weeks as well 827 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.519 as you've been talking about this issue, because if these 828 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.760 things are continuing to occur, now you know, these are 829 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.719 now war war time incursions that are occurring, and so 830 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:43.639 ostensibly the stakes are extremely high, especially given the economic 831 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:47.199 impacts that we're seeing as well as the you know, 832 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.320 the stakes around access to nuclear material and and uranium 833 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.719 enrichment and all these things. So there's there's a variety 834 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.400 of different layers to look at this issue and analyze 835 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.519 this issue. There's sort of the separation of powers problem 836 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:09.159 between the executive branch and Congress in terms of are 837 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.639 they illegally withholding classified information? Is there misappropriated funds, So 838 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.119 that's more of like a procedural issue. There's the national 839 00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:19.039 security aspect to this, which is again, you know, if 840 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:23.679 we are now in active hot you know, war type 841 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:27.559 situations in multiple theaters across the globe, and we're shutting 842 00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:30.800 down Barksdale Air Force Base because of this stuff. The 843 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.920 Alpaso Airspace just a couple of weeks ago was shut 844 00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:38.519 down under very mysterious circumstances that was supposed to be 845 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:42.480 a cartel drones, which seems to be a little bit 846 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.599 of an overreaction to shut down all the airspace over 847 00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.039 al Paso, which just happens to be very close to 848 00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:52.000 some of these same locations White Stands, for example, where 849 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.400 we're seeing now all this factual and documentary evidence that 850 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.679 encouragees have been happening at these places all of the time. 851 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.960 And then there's sort of the technological objects of non 852 00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.119 human origins aspect. So there's a lot of layers here 853 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.400 where you know, you can enter at whatever level that 854 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.000 you feel is necessary. But there there are a lot 855 00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:16.960 of aspects to this that require some attention, even if 856 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.440 just for some of the conventional aspects where the stakes 857 00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:24.519 are extremely high, again because we're in a wartime environment. 858 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.960 So it's just it is very interesting to me that 859 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.440 for nuclear facilities, for location, military facilities and bases where 860 00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.800 we have our B fifty twos, and it's nuclear both 861 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.519 energy and weapons. It's not one or the other, it's both. 862 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.880 That the continental United States is having these incursions and 863 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:49.559 in a post nine to eleven world, people aren't running 864 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.960 around with their hair on fire. Continues to confuse me, 865 00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.840 because again, this is the example that we just looked 866 00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.199 at from late twenty twenty five. This is not a 867 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:03.800 Cold War era incuragion. This is happening in our current environment, 868 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.639 and that at least warrants you know, from a congressional perspective, 869 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.039 both the Armed Services Committees and the Intelligence committees to 870 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.599 take this seriously. For example, if you were to just 871 00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.320 throw if you were to say in these descriptions that 872 00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:21.119 someone identified the insignia or a flag of Iran on 873 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:25.719 any of these objects, we would be having a very 874 00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.239 very very different conversation. 875 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.480 Agreed, Absolutely, agreed. 876 00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:35.039 And I think one of the lessons out of this, 877 00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.239 And Jordan, would you agree with this that you know, 878 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.480 the low hanging fruit are always videos and photos, but 879 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.400 the real meat of this the same as the real 880 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:53.039 meat of the congressional hearings. It wasn't videos or photos, 881 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.840 it's the testimony. 882 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.800 It's you know, what is in these pds. 883 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:03.239 And I worry Jordan that the people are overlooking and 884 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.519 not taking the time. 885 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.960 To really read this stuff. Would you agree? 886 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:08.559 Yeah, I definitely agree. 887 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:12.360 I mean, we wrote an entire policy memo on, you know, 888 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.519 our legal theory of protected disclosures that has been sitting 889 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.719 out there for quite some time, and there's very little 890 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.119 engagement with with reading the work. So we felt like 891 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.079 we had to create a video about it to get 892 00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:30.119 more engagement about it. So yeah, there's somewhat of a 893 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:33.679 higher bar, it seems, for for digging in and reading 894 00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.920 the documents. But I'm glad you brought that up, Matt, 895 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.239 for this dump data dump, because. 896 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.440 I think that I was. 897 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.280 I tweeted about this earlier today before Burleson. Burleson had 898 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:54.840 said that his favorite release was that two pages. I 899 00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:59.239 tend to agree generally that the most interesting the shiny 900 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:05.519 objects this release of the videos, but the PDFs are sensational. 901 00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:11.280 So in addition to that two page, you know, testimonial 902 00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:15.280 from a senior intelligence officer, there's also a I think 903 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.559 one hundred and sixteen, one hundred and twenty page PDF 904 00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.559 that we may want to show here, which I really 905 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.840 hope your audience will engage with. 906 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.480 So what does this PDF show? 907 00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:33.360 Well, this is a document from I believe it's the 908 00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:39.639 Air Force Office of Special Investigations. That there's a few instants. 909 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:46.159 It has thirty pages. There's a literal database included in 910 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.679 this one hundred and sixteen page pdf. Thirty pages of 911 00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:55.039 it are a literal database. Another portion of it describes 912 00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:01.320 how in nineteen forty nine they the volume and frequency 913 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:07.400 of these incursions of what they were seeing required them 914 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:13.000 to have two separate secret meetings with the a FOSIE, 915 00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:17.920 the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, the FBI, the 916 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:23.360 Atomic Energy Commission, you know, the precursor to the Department 917 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:28.159 of energy that and they had secret meetings in nineteen 918 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:31.559 forty nine with those entities to discuss what they described 919 00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:36.239 as the quote a green fireball phenomenon. 920 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:38.079 So they had seen. 921 00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:44.440 Green glowing orbs what we now think of as you know, 922 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:48.199 sort of the orb phenomena or the plasma orb phenomenon. 923 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:52.960 They had seen that in spades, and it's talked about 924 00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.679 in that other document from twenty twenty five. They're still 925 00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.639 seeing orbs out there. They were described as yellow and 926 00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:02.679 orange in in that document, so maybe they've you know, 927 00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:07.119 changed clothes, changed colors, but still generally the same phenomena. 928 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:11.079 These in that one hundred and sixteen page document I 929 00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.760 think had markings on it that indicated that it was 930 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:21.079 only declassified as of May like recently, like May thirteenth, 931 00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:24.159 twenty twenty six or something like that. So these are 932 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.400 documents that have never seen the light of day before 933 00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.480 as far as I'm aware. But I'm sure there will 934 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.960 be people that point out if I'm wrong there. 935 00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:38.960 And that these secret meetings have been happening since the forties. 936 00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.679 I mean, do you think that there aren't any other 937 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.519 documents like this from nineteen forty nine, like up until 938 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:52.920 now that haven't been released about meetings to discuss these 939 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:57.119 strange phenomena that they can't make sense of. I would 940 00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:59.679 wager that there's lots of them that have yet to 941 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.000 be made be made public. So I would encourage your 942 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:08.639 audience in the public generally to engage with with some 943 01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.039 of those PDFs as well. 944 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:12.960 They're really. 945 01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:18.199 Surprising in terms of in terms of the content, and 946 01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:23.079 they they just belie an entirely different set of facts 947 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.719 than what we have been led to believe about this topic. 948 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:34.119 Yeah, for sure. And Lester, you mentioned the l Paso thing. 949 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.559 Folks in especially any staffers or. 950 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.400 Lawmakers that are that are watching this thing, you can 951 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.559 absolutely take this to the bank. What occurred in l 952 01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.960 Paso is whatever the store, whatever story the d O 953 01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.280 D or the executive branch is telling you about what 954 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.320 happened over El Paso is not what happened. It was 955 01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:02.159 not anything prosaic, it was not an anything from cartels. 956 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:05.119 And what I can tell you is that what happened 957 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:11.159 over El Passo is absolutely frightening and absolutely a threat 958 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.760 to the national security of the United States. 959 01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.599 So those of you in Congress you need. 960 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.559 To specifically ask for a classified briefing over what happened 961 01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:25.679 in El Paso, because what they are saying is an 962 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.559 absolute lie. And when you find out what happened, you're 963 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.199 going to be enraged if they haven't told you already. 964 01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.800 So that, in and of itself. 965 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:41.480 What occurred over El Paso should alarm the public. It 966 01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:46.559 should alarm members of Congress because some stuff is getting 967 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:50.039 hidden from you, and what is getting hidden from you 968 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.719 is a direct threat to the sovereignty sovereignty of the 969 01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:56.960 United States. So I'm going to leave that there, and 970 01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.000 we're going to get into some more stuff here, but 971 01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.320 we're going to real quick, just do some housekeeping before 972 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:04.760 we get to the documents and some more videos. 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So, 1000 01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:31.679 as many of the listeners probably recall, there was a 1001 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.519 lot of effort to when it was initially introduced by 1002 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:40.000 Senator Schumer and Rounds and Jill Brandon Rubio the UAP 1003 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.880 Disclosure Act. One of the reasons why people felt so 1004 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:48.000 strongly about the importance of the UAPDA was that it 1005 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:52.440 was going to standardize the process of this release of 1006 01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:55.840 information to have it be more structured in a way 1007 01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.239 that would enable and now allow the kind of analysis 1008 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:05.679 and robust amount of information coming out. So there's actually 1009 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:11.679 three simultaneous sort of declassification or release pathways that exist 1010 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:15.519 right now that appear to be sort of uncoordinated. And 1011 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:17.679 this is kind of an annoying process point, but I 1012 01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:21.639 think it's relevant here. So in twenty twenty two, we 1013 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:25.239 had ARROW get established based from legislation, and part of 1014 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.679 their mandate was to do the declassification process. Then in 1015 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:32.400 twenty twenty four we had parts of the uap Disclosure 1016 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:37.559 Act past that required agencies to provide the National Archives 1017 01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:41.960 as a part of the uap Records Collection all of 1018 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:44.920 their files they had related to this with a deadline 1019 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.199 of September twenty twenty five that was then pushed back year. 1020 01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.280 And then the third sort of pathway now we have 1021 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.559 is this new Pursue program being run out of the 1022 01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:57.440 Executive Office of the President. There does not seem to 1023 01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:01.079 be coordination between these three efforts to to some degree. 1024 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:03.519 You could argue, arrow and pursue. There's maybe a little 1025 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.559 bit there, but this is something that you know, we 1026 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:10.679 now have multiple different you know, there's a congressional mandate 1027 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:15.519 from legislation that requires agencies to provide this information. It's 1028 01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.519 unclear if the pursue program supersedes that. Are we still 1029 01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.480 going to get the documents from the parts of the 1030 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.320 UAPDA that passed by the deadline that's going to come 1031 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:29.599 later this year. And this was a circumstance that folks 1032 01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:33.280 who are advocates for the UAPDA, we're trying to avoid 1033 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:38.599 because now there is basically duplicate efforts happening without really 1034 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.039 a clear structure or mandate for what to come out, 1035 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.679 which now gives the whoever is in charge the ability 1036 01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:48.000 to dictate whatever they want to do with it. So 1037 01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.119 it's a process point, and I know people's eyes might 1038 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:53.480 glaze over, but I think this is why some of 1039 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:56.920 the process matters, because if we're saying, okay, we want 1040 01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:00.320 something differently, this is exactly why we want the U 1041 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.639 A p d A in the first place, to avoid 1042 01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:05.320 this situation that we are now sitting in today. 1043 01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:09.840 Yeah, and clearly there were some forces behind the scenes 1044 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.719 at play to make sure that the UAP Disclosure Act 1045 01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:17.320 did not make it make it into law, you know, 1046 01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.280 the full, the full part of it. And I think 1047 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:23.679 Lester's you know, a really really great point and excuse me, 1048 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:27.199 and I'm sure that was probably one of the reasons 1049 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.719 that they derailed the thing, was to make sure that 1050 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.559 they didn't have this this accountability. Okay, let's let's jump 1051 01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:38.039 into another video here, ye please, yeah. 1052 01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:42.679 Yeah. Another reason why that's such a great point is 1053 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:47.360 that just because just to put a fine point on this, 1054 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:53.960 just because some documents have been released by executive orders 1055 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:58.079 through this pursue program what have you, doesn't change the law. 1056 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.559 And the law says that ARROW needs to put out 1057 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.920 a report, and it needs to you know, the historical report, 1058 01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.639 It needs to put out its annual report. There is 1059 01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:11.559 work to be. 1060 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:16.360 Done there that is written in the law. It is 1061 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:16.840 written in. 1062 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:21.559 Statute, and it doesn't change regardless of what is released 1063 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:24.719 through this pursuit program. It does not change the law 1064 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:30.199 and the obligations there. So I continue to hope that 1065 01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:36.480 ARROW will do its job and meet its statutory obligations 1066 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:38.000 and not just talking. 1067 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:40.519 About I want to add on top of that, Jordan 1068 01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:45.599 that's correct, and that Arrow obligation is independent from the 1069 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:50.440 National Archives obligation that's directly to agencies. Right, So they 1070 01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.000 are both true, and they are both in the law currently, 1071 01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.639 and so it will be interesting to see again how 1072 01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:03.239 this gets deconflicted or unified or not. But as it stands, 1073 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:07.159 both agencies that are not Arrow and Arrow have these 1074 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:09.199 obligations that have already been established. 1075 01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.360 Well said basically, Errow, do your damn job. Okay, let's 1076 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.960 see here. So we're going to look at some spheres. 1077 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:23.600 Have note here to look at the second one is 1078 01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:33.279 going to click on that that thing sure seems to 1079 01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:34.039 be moving. 1080 01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:34.960 Wow. 1081 01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:42.840 I mean that is clearly showing one of the five observables. Guys, 1082 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:50.920 feel free to jump in, you know, it may. 1083 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:54.760 You know, I keep pointing out that I'm not qualified to, 1084 01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:57.199 you know, make an assessment on these things, but I have. 1085 01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:00.760 I think it's an opportunity to point out that I've 1086 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:06.479 really enjoyed, you know, Mark von running Comp's work on this, 1087 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.199 like he is someone who brings a legitimate skill set 1088 01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:14.600 to the table in terms of analyzing these videos, being 1089 01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:19.199 able to differentiate, to both make a logical argument based 1090 01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:24.600 on data and to be able to differentiate prosaic things 1091 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:26.319 from truly anomalous things. 1092 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:29.079 I'm very grateful for the. 1093 01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:34.640 He's a true warrior for for disclosure and transparency and 1094 01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:41.239 seems to have a tireless efforts in engaging with online 1095 01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.720 with the people that he engages with to to make 1096 01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:49.920 his points. So more power to him. So we don't, 1097 01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.119 you know, we can turn the volume down on the 1098 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.000 voices who would say that, you know, oh, this is 1099 01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.439 a clearly a seagull, right. 1100 01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.720 Right, Yeah, I agreed. Okay, let's look at another one here. 1101 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.359 I think this is fourth one. 1102 01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:10.000 And I think another aspect of this whole process that's 1103 01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:13.239 that's interesting is you know the scientific community, right, which 1104 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:17.359 is a group that is poised to be very valuable 1105 01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:19.239 in this process. 1106 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:20.000 You know. 1107 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.720 Part of the challenge is the largest funder of fundamental 1108 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:28.159 research in the United States is the US government. There 1109 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:33.000 is currently not grant funding allocated in any substantive way 1110 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:38.520 for UAP research, and these research institution institutions and universities 1111 01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:41.760 are looking at these data dumps and saying there is 1112 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:48.359 not yet enough substantive evidence to give us the incentive 1113 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:53.600 to move in creating and addressing this issue without the 1114 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:58.039 existence of that grant funding ecosystem, and so there's been 1115 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.920 a little bit of you know, either reticence or hesitation, 1116 01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:04.760 which is changing slowly over time as we've now seen 1117 01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:08.520 more of these come out because of that twofold problem. One, 1118 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.199 the grant funding isn't there, and you know, funding for 1119 01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:16.840 science research has been under threat, you know, in this 1120 01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.720 and past administrations, and so a lot of these research 1121 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.199 institutions are fighting over smaller and smaller amounts of funds 1122 01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.319 that are being allocated to other areas, and the evidentiary 1123 01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.359 basis that currently exists is not sufficient for them to 1124 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:33.920 do it without that monetary incentive. And so this is 1125 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:36.039 kind of the rock and the hard place that I 1126 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.920 think a lot of scientists and researchers are stuck in. 1127 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.000 And then because of that, they don't necessarily spend the 1128 01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.439 time looking at some of the documents we've talked about 1129 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.960 because they just feel like, look, I have limited budget 1130 01:11:48.119 --> 01:11:50.119 and limited time, and I have to spend it where 1131 01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.439 it's most useful. But I think one of the aspects 1132 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.079 of this is going to be raising that evidentiary bar 1133 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:57.880 that then creates the incentive for the science community to 1134 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:00.960 actually engage with this and then once that's there, also 1135 01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:04.640 providing the grant funding accordingly, so we can expand the 1136 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.720 scope of the groups of people that are doing this 1137 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:12.800 beyond just the sort of military industrial complex architecture. And 1138 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.560 this is totally independent of the fact that there's a 1139 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.520 deep side of this issue within the defense contractor space, 1140 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:25.399 the federally funded research center space that is sort of 1141 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.319 kind of a black box that's going to be difficult 1142 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.920 to crack open. And so there are a lot of 1143 01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:35.399 dynamics here which are now changing because of this environment 1144 01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:39.319 that's being driven by more and more of these videos 1145 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:40.600 and tranches being released. 1146 01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:42.119 Okay, I want to. 1147 01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.119 I want to because I know, Jordan, your times limited here. 1148 01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.319 Let's just quick look at look at this video. And 1149 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:52.079 you know, so this yet another one that is you know, 1150 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.159 pretty pretty bizarre. Looks like some kind of spherical object. 1151 01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:00.800 And I don't know if the kind of of sort 1152 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.840 of star flaring or something is a sensor artifact or 1153 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.800 but yeah, this one's uh, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty crazy. 1154 01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.399 Even the description on that one, I believe, uh says 1155 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:23.399 like pulsing or pulsating light and so clearly I don't 1156 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.119 think it's just a sensor artifact. I think that was 1157 01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:29.760 You're right, you know, demonstrated phenomenology from from this thing. 1158 01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:35.840 Yeah, aerow assesses whose uploader defined title is spherical u 1159 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:40.520 AP pulsing over water is likely derived from infrared sensor 1160 01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.920 but US military, I mean, how would they not know 1161 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:47.319 where this is from? I mean that seems pretty pretty silly, 1162 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:49.520 silly to me. I want to look at another one, 1163 01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.079 and then then after that, I want to get into 1164 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:56.239 this this document that you you, Jordan, you would you 1165 01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:08.039 would pointed out. So this one, I think this, this 1166 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:12.760 may have been one that was kind of difficult. Yeah, 1167 01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.560 you can kind of see if I can stop it 1168 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:23.920 in time. Yeah, so you can kind of see just 1169 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:29.479 to the right of that car, you know, something flying by. 1170 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:32.640 I mean it's seeing if there was any more to it. 1171 01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:34.560 I think they just slowed it down. 1172 01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:35.000 There you go. 1173 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:37.960 Now now you can see the slow motion version of 1174 01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:40.720 whatever this thing is that appears to be. 1175 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:46.319 Cylinder shape. Yeah. So let's let's. 1176 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:50.560 Jump into this because this was a really extensive PDF. 1177 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.840 And uh and this is something that you really thought 1178 01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:59.640 was was definitely worth taking taking time to look at. 1179 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:06.399 So first, first off, Jordan, what is what is you 1180 01:15:06.399 --> 01:15:10.119 know what is this document? So this is from Sandia Labs. 1181 01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:13.359 Yeah, that's right. 1182 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:20.479 So this appears to be a bunch of letters, memos, reports, 1183 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:25.560 and database related to you know, Sandy A Base, now 1184 01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:32.880 Sandia Labs. And yeah, there's the reference to Sandia Base 1185 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:39.279 there classified documents. If you scroll through, there's a little 1186 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:44.000 sort of rectangular declassification box with a date in it 1187 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:50.239 that says, I believe May thirteen or something, twenty twenty six. 1188 01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:56.840 What I thought was, there's a lot of juicy stuff 1189 01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.079 in this document. This what you're on right now. I 1190 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:05.880 think it's especially interesting. A few paragraphs here or is it? 1191 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.680 Is it this one? I thought it was pages like nineteen. 1192 01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.119 And oh yeah, let me get let me get to 1193 01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:11.039 that one like. 1194 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:12.119 That of the of the pdf. 1195 01:16:12.159 --> 01:16:18.119 But there are it's nineteen there, I think the. 1196 01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:25.960 Can you go back to Uh yeah, I think that's it. Yep. 1197 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:31.239 So summary of aerial Phenomena in the new in the 1198 01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:38.680 New Mexico area. So paragraph two there describes what is 1199 01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:43.880 sort of in this database that's also attached to uh 1200 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:49.199 you know, there's a few pages after this, uh uh 1201 01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:51.359 this executive summary here. 1202 01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:54.399 Uh so paragraph two is interesting. 1203 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.000 I thought that paragraph four was interesting if you if 1204 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:01.039 you scroll down to the to the next page, that 1205 01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:04.319 might be worth reading. So here it says on on 1206 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:08.399 seventeen February forty nine, and again on fourteen October forty nine, 1207 01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:13.199 conferences were held at Los Alamos, New Mexico, to discuss 1208 01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:20.760 quote green fireball phenomena. Representative representatives of the following organizations 1209 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.199 were there. You know, It's included University of New Mexico, 1210 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:31.000 the FBI, the Atomic Energy Commission, University of California, US 1211 01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:38.159 Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, significant amount of you know, 1212 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:47.600 military and intelligence organizations, and academic organizations as well. Generally 1213 01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.079 concluded that the phenomenon existed and they should be studied 1214 01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:57.239 scientifically until these occurrences have been satisfactorily explained. Further, that 1215 01:17:57.279 --> 01:18:00.239 the continued occurrence of unexplained phenomena this name sure in 1216 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:04.319 the vicinity of sensitive installations is cause for concern. 1217 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:06.359 Right. Uh. 1218 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:12.920 It's as if nothing has changed between then and now 1219 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.920 and we continue to get you know, the the the 1220 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:21.680 vector of disclosure here really has one direction, and it's 1221 01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:27.560 that there is more things like this that reference real 1222 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:31.239 data with real cause of concern than there is in 1223 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:34.920 the opposite direction of saying, Oh, there's there's nothing nothing 1224 01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:38.680 to see here. You know, I would just say, as 1225 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:43.439 a quick aside, I was on an interview recently for 1226 01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:48.399 a large network. Uh there were there was a representative 1227 01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:52.359 from NASA there, there was a representative from the d 1228 01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:57.600 o D there, and the representative from NASA kept saying, Oh, 1229 01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.119 there's nothing to there's nothing new in these releases. I've 1230 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:04.800 seen all of this before. I've seen these like Apollo Mission, 1231 01:19:06.199 --> 01:19:11.119 you know, transcripts and documents, and you know, he's just 1232 01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:16.960 factually wrong that there were new releases in right in 1233 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:22.479 like new information in both of these releases, and this 1234 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:25.960 is you know, a perfect example of something new in 1235 01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:27.600 this one that hasn't been out before. 1236 01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:29.479 And then the represented from the d D. 1237 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.359 Said something to the effect of, you know, I'm not 1238 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:36.800 sure who is studying this, but you know, there really 1239 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:38.159 should be. 1240 01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:38.680 Someone studying it. 1241 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:43.000 And I'm sitting there sort of like with my mind blown, 1242 01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.600 being like the d d's own rep that they sent 1243 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:48.800 out to talk to a. 1244 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:50.199 News network. 1245 01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:56.680 Has no idea that like, there was legislation that created 1246 01:19:56.720 --> 01:20:00.359 an office at the Pentagon called Arrow to actually study 1247 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.520 these things that's solely dedicated. 1248 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:06.079 To presumably trying to. 1249 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.199 Figure out what the heck is going on with with 1250 01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:14.880 UAP that is their only job, and just the it 1251 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:20.199 just was bordering on like willful ignorance that the representatives 1252 01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.600 had no idea, supposedly about about these things, and we're 1253 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.880 communicating that in the media. And I had to interject 1254 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:31.920 and just say, you know, I'm kind of surprised to 1255 01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:37.560 hear you say that, but let me tell you about 1256 01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:38.640 this office called ERRO. 1257 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:43.079 And how did he react over years and how did 1258 01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.119 he react when you corrected him on air? 1259 01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.159 You know, I mean I was I was professional about it, 1260 01:20:50.079 --> 01:20:52.840 but there there it wasn't a format where you know, 1261 01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:56.560 he sort of responded. It was was allowed to respond 1262 01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:58.920 to that directly. It was sort of at the end 1263 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.560 of the segment, you know. But I try to do 1264 01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:04.880 it in a professional way. I didn't want to make 1265 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:09.079 anybody look bad. But it's mostly the most important thing 1266 01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:14.920 is for the audience to be educated that these things exist, 1267 01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:22.279 and they exist because senior lawmakers in this country know 1268 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:25.319 that there's a reality to this phenomenon, and it enacted 1269 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.319 legislation to try and get to the bottom of it. 1270 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:31.520 Yeah, and I want to point out here, if there's 1271 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:34.800 nothing to see here in nineteen fifty Look at all 1272 01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:38.920 of the people that were This was distributed to US 1273 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:43.760 Air Force OSI Material, Air Force Material Command, Special Weapons Command, 1274 01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:49.680 Armed Services, Special Weapons Project, San Dia, Headquarters for the 1275 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:55.399 Army Holman Air Force Base, I mean FBI, i'l passo 1276 01:21:55.640 --> 01:22:00.439 FBI Albuquerque Air Force Scientific Advisory Board. And it just 1277 01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:03.920 goes on and on and then you know, and again 1278 01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:06.680 this is one hundred and sixteen pages. 1279 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:08.800 Yeah, is crazy. 1280 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.960 See in these things that you're scrolling through right now, 1281 01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:17.159 Matt is you see this is the database? 1282 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:17.760 Right? 1283 01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:20.840 So this is the nineteen fifties equivalent of a database 1284 01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:21.680 on a piece of paper. 1285 01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:24.960 I would love. 1286 01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:29.640 To, you know, challenge your viewers. There's so many amazing 1287 01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.760 like tech tools and AI tools out there right now. 1288 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:39.920 You know, who is going to download and index, organize, 1289 01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:41.640 and synthesize all of. 1290 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.720 The data that is in this database? 1291 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:49.560 It has that data been released previously in any way 1292 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:55.800 through Project Grudge, through Project Bluebook that I'm not sure, 1293 01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.319 but I certainly would love to know the answer to that. 1294 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:02.319 And I would also love for there to be some 1295 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.720 integration and synthesis of this data. 1296 01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:07.439 What can we learn from this? 1297 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.239 Is there stuff here that's that we could use to 1298 01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:14.479 corroborate other incidents that have happened. Is there information here 1299 01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:19.640 that we could use to FOYA for you know, just 1300 01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:27.840 incremental interesting FOYA submissions that under no circumstance should be 1301 01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:31.960 the obviously twenty five years you know, older than twenty 1302 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:35.119 five years. I mean, geez, they're whatever, seventy years old. 1303 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:40.159 There should not be any reason to withhold other information 1304 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.079 about these sightings for a FOYER release. So anyway, I 1305 01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:47.920 think that this could be a to the extent that 1306 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.520 there's you know, new information in this database in particular, 1307 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.119 certainly fertile ground for more discovery. 1308 01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:59.079 Yeah, just kind of going through here, and I'm looking 1309 01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.640 at a few things, looking at the shape ping pong ball, 1310 01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:10.159 flat spheriotic oval round, ping pong ball, flat sphere oval. 1311 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.479 There's one that's really interesting here that I came across, 1312 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:19.920 flying wing, flying wing And if you you know, this 1313 01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:23.119 is on March twenty second, case number two O FORARD 1314 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:28.920 eleven hundred Kirtland Air Force based New Mexico, northwest northwest 1315 01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:32.079 changing to north so it's changing direction twenty five thousand 1316 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:38.720 to thirty thousand feet AGL. This thing is tanned to Brown. 1317 01:24:39.239 --> 01:24:44.199 It's a flying wing. A flying wing about size of 1318 01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:49.399 golf ball held at arm's length, so that is pretty 1319 01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:55.239 pretty big. I mean, you know, it's you know again, 1320 01:24:55.680 --> 01:25:00.720 one round like ball from Roman candle roughly circular, cylindrical, 1321 01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:06.720 the cylindrical one may first at fifteen hundred I was 1322 01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:15.680 silver lucid metallic object. I mean, this is I mean, 1323 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.600 this is a gold mine. And Jordan, thank you for 1324 01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:23.079 pointing this out. I had not looked into really just 1325 01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.800 frankly didn't have time today trying to get ready for 1326 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:26.199 the show. 1327 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:30.439 But I mean, this is just a gold mine. I mean, 1328 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:31.279 what is this here? 1329 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.720 Let's see And this goes back to what we talked 1330 01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:41.279 about earlier, Matt, which is the analysis and the context 1331 01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:46.720 surrounding the video or the photo, which provides a much 1332 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:50.319 richer picture, especially for folks who are in the scientific 1333 01:25:50.359 --> 01:25:53.159 or research community, to kind of get their arms around this. 1334 01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:58.000 And these historical documents are examples of technical drawings and 1335 01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:01.720 analysis and kind of the internal workings and process that 1336 01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:04.159 was happening at the time. And I think a couple 1337 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:07.199 of pages back you saw there's still a large redacted 1338 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:09.640 block right at the top of one of the documents 1339 01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:13.479 which is that an image, right? And what is that 1340 01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.479 image showing that it's still redacted in the context of 1341 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:20.880 these documents, and it is. It's really really interesting. I 1342 01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:22.520 think it's a little bit further up from where you 1343 01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:25.720 are currently it was before this chart. And again it's 1344 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:29.319 just you know, these things are so old right here, right, 1345 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:32.920 I'm assuming that this block here is it's either capturing 1346 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.760 the orb in some kind of IR or that's just 1347 01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:38.079 an artifact from the scanning and it's still redacted. But 1348 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:40.760 this is there's a lot I think to just lean 1349 01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.479 here to understand that can better arm us as we 1350 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:47.279 continue to push for transparency on this issue. And I 1351 01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:49.560 think one just small detail kind of push out there 1352 01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.840 is I am and this is something I think I 1353 01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:54.880 saw someone mentioned in the chat. I am very surprised. 1354 01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.039 Maybe they've tried, and he's declined that no one has 1355 01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:01.920 had doctor John Kazlowski, who is the current director of 1356 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:10.439 the All Dominated Anomaly Resolution Office, come and provide an explanation, context, perspective, 1357 01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.800 comment or anything as it relates to what is his 1358 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:20.920 mandate and his purview. Now getting a billion views plus globally, 1359 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:24.399 I mean, there is literally a person that media organizations 1360 01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:27.439 can go to that is leading up this issue and 1361 01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:29.960 putting the feet to the fire. I think on the 1362 01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:32.800 questions that people are asking, he's actually someone in a 1363 01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:36.199 position to be able to either expand on what's already 1364 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:40.760 public or give actual information that many people outside of 1365 01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.760 the government can't provide as it relates to the specific issue. 1366 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.600 I want to point something out here that I just 1367 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:52.600 found report trip to Los Alamos, New Mexico, sixteen, nineteen 1368 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:56.880 forty nine by Richard Commander Richard I can't pronounce it, 1369 01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.880 research and developed subject. On sixteenth February, conference was held at 1370 01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:06.199 Los Alamos to consider the so called green fireball phenomena, 1371 01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:11.239 which commenced about fifth of December nineteen forty eight. The 1372 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:19.000 following were present. Holloway, who I think was I've seen 1373 01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:24.560 that name before, but right here Edward Teller, the father 1374 01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:28.960 of the hydrogen bomb, is at this meeting. 1375 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:34.039 So the guy that developed our. 1376 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:40.479 Thermonuclear device, invented the thermonuclear warhead is in this meeting. 1377 01:28:42.119 --> 01:28:47.439 I think Hoyt was a somebody in the Air Force, 1378 01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:51.159 but I mean the father of the new. 1379 01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:57.319 Atomic bombyli people on social media that also quickly saw 1380 01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:00.359 that reference as well, Matt, Yeah, I think you're you're 1381 01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:01.199 you're honing. 1382 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:04.399 In on the on the right things. Uh and uh, 1383 01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:06.199 you know there are. 1384 01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:09.960 Edward Teller seems to be his name seems to pop 1385 01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:15.279 up frequently in this, and you know he had a 1386 01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:18.720 relationship with other people involved in the UAP topic who 1387 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:19.359 are still alive. 1388 01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:24.520 Yeah, I mean this, I'm going to go when I 1389 01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.319 get home tonight, I'm going to look at all of this. 1390 01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:31.920 I mean, I can't see this one. I can flip around. 1391 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:36.760 You know, these are different. So I'm guessing this is 1392 01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:40.720 in relation to the base or something moving oblong fire body, 1393 01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:45.359 fixed flash, moving fireball, moving oblong firebody. 1394 01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:47.359 I mean, if you assume out of that when it's 1395 01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:50.560 actually kind of a pretty picture, it's saying, you know, 1396 01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:53.239 here's the angle at which I first saw the thing, 1397 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.000 here's what it looked like, and here's how it like 1398 01:29:56.399 --> 01:30:00.640 changed in color and morphology as it went across the 1399 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:02.479 sky and at different angles. 1400 01:30:02.920 --> 01:30:03.239 Wow. 1401 01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:08.680 Okay, Yeah, this is an absolute treasure trope. So let's 1402 01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.000 get to some audience questions here. I know, Jordan, you've 1403 01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:14.439 got little ones to take care of. So this is 1404 01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:17.720 from Rica Bowen a question, how likely is it that 1405 01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:23.439 agencies are purposely faking UAP videos in mixing it in 1406 01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:29.199 with genuine unexplainable UAP video UAP videos. 1407 01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:32.680 Just to muddy the waters. Leicester, what do you think. 1408 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:36.760 I don't know that there's necessarily even a need to 1409 01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:40.399 generate a fake per se. There's likely the case that 1410 01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:43.760 there's mundane ones that any number of reasons, there's an 1411 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:47.000 active disinformation to put it out there to muddy the waters. 1412 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:50.479 It's they have other responsibilities and they don't really care 1413 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:52.319 about this issue, so they just pick something from the 1414 01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:55.439 pile and send it out to meet the mandate. So 1415 01:30:55.479 --> 01:31:00.199 I think there's a number of options here. Clearly there's 1416 01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:06.159 several things within both tranches that, with very straightforward analysis, 1417 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:09.479 are again likely not having any of the five observables 1418 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.720 or the six observables that are really what people are 1419 01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.920 looking for in the public, which is leading to anomalist technology. 1420 01:31:16.199 --> 01:31:18.239 I think there's a variety of things that could be possible, 1421 01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:21.439 but I don't think they need to generate fake data 1422 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:24.079 and information. I think there's enough mundane stuff they can 1423 01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:26.119 just throw in the pile and say I did my job. 1424 01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:28.720 Let's move on to what they perceive to be quote 1425 01:31:28.760 --> 01:31:32.399 more serious matters as an example, Jordan, your thoughts. 1426 01:31:34.119 --> 01:31:37.800 I think that is almost a perfect answer, Lester. I 1427 01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:43.880 agree with you. You don't need to create fake things. 1428 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.239 There's enough. There's enough gray area. And that's the problem 1429 01:31:47.279 --> 01:31:50.119 with the lack of context, right, and the lack of analysis, 1430 01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:52.960 is that there's enough there too. If you want to 1431 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.680 try and steer the conversation in one way, you can. 1432 01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:58.920 It's like the. 1433 01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:03.319 Argument of you know, if you take the hyperbolic example there, 1434 01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:07.399 it's like, oh, we've got you know, we've got ten 1435 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:14.760 thousand we've got ten thousand videos and you know whatever, 1436 01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:20.039 all of them but one are prosaic. And then you're like, okay, 1437 01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:21.680 well I want to see the one that's not prosaic. 1438 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:23.880 And they're like, yeah, well, don't worry about that one 1439 01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.199 so much, you know, you know, but ninety nine point 1440 01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:31.359 nine nine percent of these things aren't, you know, they're 1441 01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:34.000 prosaic and not worthy of our attention. 1442 01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:38.039 It's like, yeah, you only need you only need one. 1443 01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:44.560 To be to be interesting dispositive, right, just from a 1444 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:49.960 first principles thinking perspective, you know, this isn't a you know, 1445 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.279 we need seventy percent of the things to be. 1446 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:55.000 You know, earth shattering. 1447 01:32:56.960 --> 01:33:00.960 You know, there's some cognitive biases happening here respect to 1448 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.800 how this is managed. So yeah, that's my that's my perspective. 1449 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:06.439 But it's just adding on to I think what is 1450 01:33:06.479 --> 01:33:07.960 an excellent point from Leicester? 1451 01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:11.319 Absolutely okay, from Sea Kenzo. 1452 01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:16.279 Should we be concerned that Aaron Lucas has replaced Tulsi? 1453 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:22.760 Either of you have any perspective on that. I don't. 1454 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:24.960 I don't have any real background. I think there's been 1455 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:29.279 a lot of chatter in both directions, so it's happened. 1456 01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.159 There's a lot that's happened over the course of the day. 1457 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:33.800 I think more information will come out, and obviously the 1458 01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:36.359 proof's going to be in the pudding. I've just I 1459 01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:39.000 don't have any personal reference point to provide any value 1460 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:39.840 to that question. 1461 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:41.640 Yeah. 1462 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.600 I've heard a lot of negative things on social media, 1463 01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.560 but in private, I've heard a lot of positive things 1464 01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:53.439 about what this person's intentions could be. 1465 01:33:54.920 --> 01:33:57.079 I don't know this person. I don't have a relationship 1466 01:33:57.079 --> 01:33:57.399 with them. 1467 01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:02.960 It is somewhat painful that Tolzi resigned because she seemed 1468 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:07.239 to be a true advocate for this. So I think 1469 01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:11.079 I'm cautiously optimistic, But of course you know the I 1470 01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:12.640 think the proof is going to be in the pudding 1471 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:16.720 for what we see coming out of Odie and I 1472 01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:17.680 from from here out. 1473 01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:19.079 Yeah. 1474 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:22.239 One thing I was told is that Aaron watches this 1475 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:26.119 show so and he does pay attention to what we 1476 01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:27.800 say as well. 1477 01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:33.079 As deliberation time. So I, you know, I'm going to 1478 01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:35.279 give this guy the benefit of the doubt. I'd heard 1479 01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:36.560 been told. 1480 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:39.800 Some negative things, but I'm going to let that, let 1481 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:43.520 that go and hope that maybe that was some bad information. 1482 01:34:44.319 --> 01:34:47.760 So Aaron, you know, here's here is your opportunity to 1483 01:34:48.279 --> 01:34:54.359 right this wrong, bring transparency, and get control of this 1484 01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:58.000 quote unquote deep state sort of effort that's been going 1485 01:34:58.039 --> 01:34:59.880 on for you know, over eighty years. 1486 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:03.439 So Aaron, it's time to step up to the plate. Uh. 1487 01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:06.960 Tulsi sorry to see you go, but Aaron, you're in 1488 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:11.479 the driver's seat. Do your job, okay? Uh u ap leo, Matt. 1489 01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:15.359 If the pursue site is hitting one billion views, will 1490 01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.119 this pressure Congress to audit the Department of Energy files 1491 01:35:19.359 --> 01:35:24.800 that were notably missing from the second batch? I certainly hope. 1492 01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:28.000 So what I can tell you is that stuff was 1493 01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:33.479 specifically squirreled away in the Department of Energy because the 1494 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:41.399 classification mechanisms are so opaque and buried that that was 1495 01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:45.199 the reason that a lot of stuff is stuffed into DOE, 1496 01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:49.720 because Congress doesn't have access to it. And this kind 1497 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.880 of archaic classification infrastructure that they that they picked up 1498 01:35:53.920 --> 01:36:01.119 from the Manhattan Project serves a very specific purpose to 1499 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:03.399 keep this stuff buried deep. 1500 01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:07.039 So I personally don't think that anything. 1501 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:09.359 Is going to come out of DOE. It was put 1502 01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:10.760 there by design. 1503 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.359 I'm curious, briefly. I will just know briefly, Matt. There 1504 01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:18.960 are three documents from Release two that are from the DOE. 1505 01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:23.279 Two of them are like letters and mundane things that 1506 01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:26.800 are not quite related to the scope of work that 1507 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:29.600 the Department of Energy is really exposed to. And then 1508 01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:35.520 there was the Enhanced pan tax Imagery, which again had 1509 01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:40.640 something very nondescript, and again given the mandate of something 1510 01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:44.039 like the Department of Energy, alongside the National or Connaissance 1511 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:48.960 Office or Reconnaissance Office, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, which 1512 01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:52.720 have the best instruments and the best tools, seem to 1513 01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:56.199 be the least represented in the releases so far. And 1514 01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:58.399 so when people say, you know, the good stuff, the 1515 01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:02.479 places with the good stuff. Are suspiciously quiet as it 1516 01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:03.920 relates to what's come out so far. 1517 01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.319 Excellent, excellent point, and I'll have to take a look 1518 01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:10.039 at that, okay, curious George seven five one five. Thank 1519 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:12.600 you to our guests. I found them to be very 1520 01:37:12.920 --> 01:37:17.880 informed and intelligent. And uh, you know, folks, go to 1521 01:37:18.279 --> 01:37:21.359 U what is it a disclosurefoundation dot org. 1522 01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:22.319 What is the website? 1523 01:37:22.720 --> 01:37:27.199 Just disclosure dot org. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, just literally 1524 01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.239 disclosure dot org. We have a bunch of our work 1525 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:31.239 up there. You can catch up to everything we're doing. 1526 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:34.920 I mean, there's there's really work to do to continue 1527 01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:38.560 to you know, bridge the gap between what the public 1528 01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:43.560 understanding of where we are is and you know, the 1529 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:46.680 way the media and the current media channels kind of 1530 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:50.359 characterize this issue and this is weird. You know, we 1531 01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:52.159 have a lot of work that's coming up. One of 1532 01:37:52.199 --> 01:37:54.359 the big things that we're looking forward to is our 1533 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:58.439 disclosure form on June twenty fifth in the Kennedy Caucus 1534 01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:02.560 Room in the Senate the Russell Stent Office building. I mean, 1535 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.319 this is going to be you know, in terms of 1536 01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:11.119 inside Congress, actually inside Congress, not just in Washington, d C. 1537 01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:14.239 We have senators, we have members of the House. It's 1538 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.279 going to be an all day panel. And what is 1539 01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:22.279 a historic location for you know, historical you know situations 1540 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:26.239 where we talk about you know, whether it's Watergate, whether 1541 01:38:26.279 --> 01:38:28.520 it's the nine to eleven hearings. You know, there is 1542 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:31.560 a real gravitas to the location in the history of 1543 01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:36.800 really pushing for clarity around historical issues we've had around 1544 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.800 the subject of transparency and the momentum we're seeing now 1545 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:43.079 in terms of the amount of media that is now 1546 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.119 digging their heels into this and no longer kind of 1547 01:38:46.239 --> 01:38:48.880 just looking at it and passing it by. You know, 1548 01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:52.920 obviously with these dumps, people have to get the news cycle, 1549 01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:56.800 but in the background, reporters are now being giving a 1550 01:38:56.800 --> 01:39:00.399 little bit more of a leash to really get into 1551 01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.560 this issue. So as you see more investigative reporters with 1552 01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:07.920 larger resources and networks start to really go after this 1553 01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:11.359 issue independent of whether what the administration does with the 1554 01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:15.159 Pursue program, the appetite seems to be there, and we've 1555 01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:18.840 just seen this even from the demand from folks within 1556 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:21.920 the media to come to the forum, to participate and 1557 01:39:21.960 --> 01:39:24.239 to collaborate and really digging into this issue. 1558 01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:27.840 Excellent Jordan anything to add to that. 1559 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:34.880 We're really excited about this forum, and I think one 1560 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:38.319 thing that might be addedive there is, you know, what. 1561 01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:41.760 Is the purpose of this what's the purpose of the forum? 1562 01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:43.720 We would like to. 1563 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:50.119 See in addition to having you know, senior leaders in 1564 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:53.239 both the House and the Senate be supportive of these 1565 01:39:53.279 --> 01:39:56.640 efforts and be showing up to speak. 1566 01:39:56.920 --> 01:39:59.000 You know, what we are trying to do is. 1567 01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:05.039 This is not an event to try and convince anyone 1568 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:08.039 really that there's a reality here. The purpose of this 1569 01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.680 event is to really take the position of Congress, which 1570 01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:16.479 is to stipulate that there's a reality to this phenomenon, 1571 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:19.560 and to try and move into problem solving mode, to 1572 01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:23.600 move into problem solving across how do we address this 1573 01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:35.359 from a from the perspective of national security, non proliferation, science, technology, innovation, economics, markets, 1574 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:42.840 and even religion and philosophy. We're delighted that Professor of 1575 01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:48.840 Religion at Yale, Carlos Air, has committed to come speak 1576 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:54.079 with us about his work and his perspective on how 1577 01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:55.479 societies have. 1578 01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:59.960 Coped and evolved. 1579 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:04.079 When they've come into contact with quote the impossible, you know, 1580 01:41:04.239 --> 01:41:07.560 Carlos Air and doctor Jeffrey Kreipe will have a wonderful 1581 01:41:07.880 --> 01:41:11.319 corpus of work on that subject. So just to give 1582 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:14.600 a flavor of, you know, what we're trying to do 1583 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:16.920 here and how we're trying to make it a little 1584 01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:19.720 bit different. I'm delighted to say that, you know, this 1585 01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:26.600 event is free and open to the public, and we're 1586 01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:30.680 really glad to be able to welcome folks into this 1587 01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:32.159 event in the Senate. 1588 01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:34.359 So that's it. Thank you so much. 1589 01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:40.720 Absolutely, and I certainly hope I RSVP'd for it. At 1590 01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:43.439 the present moment, I'll be attending. Hopefully that'll be the 1591 01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.439 case of if the day job allows. But but yeah, 1592 01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:50.399 you guys are really just doing fantastic work. I'm excited 1593 01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:54.600 for this event and I'm sure others that will be 1594 01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:58.000 that will be coming down the pike. And then also too, 1595 01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:05.239 just continuing Disclosure Foundation, continuing to engage lawmakers on Capitol Hill, 1596 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:08.319 bringing the lawmakers that have not paid attention to this 1597 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:12.119 particular national security issue up to speed. I mean, you 1598 01:42:12.199 --> 01:42:15.279 guys are really doing great work, and you know, just 1599 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:19.079 just super excited and the kind of last thing I'll say. 1600 01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:20.680 You know, I'm no Trump fan. 1601 01:42:20.760 --> 01:42:23.560 I've been very very open about that, but you know, 1602 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:26.680 you have to give credit where credit is due. He 1603 01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:30.479 has has done what no other president has done, which 1604 01:42:30.520 --> 01:42:33.960 has compelled the release of these videos. But the one 1605 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:36.079 thing I would say to the president at the end 1606 01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:39.680 of end of that first release, he kind of put 1607 01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:41.880 it out there and said, you guys have fun with it. 1608 01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:44.199 You guys figure it out. But at the end of 1609 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.920 the day, this is the government's job. This is what 1610 01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:51.079 we're paying for for them to figure it out, for 1611 01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:54.279 them to inform the public of what is going on 1612 01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:58.079 in our skies. This isn't, you know, just some you know, 1613 01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:02.800 social media project. This is the government's job to be 1614 01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:06.199 straight with the public and tell them why these things 1615 01:43:06.279 --> 01:43:10.800 are flying in restricted airspace and moreover arrow This is 1616 01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:16.000 their job to be providing this analysis. The historical report 1617 01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:21.279 is two years overdue. Two years overdue. There's no excuse 1618 01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:26.199 for that. Had I not turned in my final report 1619 01:43:26.279 --> 01:43:29.520 for English or whatever, I probably would have never graduated. 1620 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:33.079 So I certainly hope they'll do that. But anyway, a 1621 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:34.800 lesser any closing thoughts. 1622 01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:38.720 No, I think you know, we covered a lot here. 1623 01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:42.359 We are certainly in a different place than we were 1624 01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:45.840 a year ago, a year before that, a year before that, 1625 01:43:46.399 --> 01:43:48.960 and so you know, I think it's important in the 1626 01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:52.680 broader context to understand the progress that we've made and 1627 01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:56.239 how much more of the larger not only American public, 1628 01:43:56.279 --> 01:44:00.319 but global public are now leaning into this. I mean, 1629 01:44:00.479 --> 01:44:04.319 you know, the France is having their you know, first 1630 01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:10.279 real serious parliamentary event related to UAP, I believe, in 1631 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.199 the next month, which is at least in part being 1632 01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:17.399 driven and motivated by the moves here in the United States. 1633 01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:20.399 So it continues to be as goes the United States, 1634 01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:24.399 so goes the world on this subject. Japan similarly has 1635 01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:26.119 said they're going to move forward with this. So I 1636 01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:33.239 think the import here it is both we need more 1637 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:37.479 of the actual information, particularly the ones that show these 1638 01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:42.600 observables and point to if there is that anomalist technology here. 1639 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:46.279 But this is beginning the process of spreading this even 1640 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.920 beyond our borders, and that in and of itself is 1641 01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:50.359 extremely important and powerful. 1642 01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:58.800 Jordan, last thoughts, I think it makes a world of 1643 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:03.279 difference when you have presidential will behind this topic. 1644 01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:07.520 You have seen arrow fall into line, you know, have 1645 01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:12.840 Glad handing pictures with members of Congress after this, you know, 1646 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.800 that is quite the That is a shift in tone. 1647 01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:22.680 It's difficult to overestimate the amount of impact that presidential will. 1648 01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.680 Can have on pushing this forward. 1649 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.119 I think that there, you know, the the initial release 1650 01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:34.079 may have been a trial balloon to try and you know, 1651 01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:37.439 run the political calculus to try and establish how much 1652 01:45:37.439 --> 01:45:42.479 political capital is in this topic, and the feedback there 1653 01:45:43.119 --> 01:45:47.600 was astounding. The answer is that there's a billion views 1654 01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:51.319 to the site right now. We have a green light 1655 01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:58.239 for more releases. And I think that we've really shown 1656 01:45:58.680 --> 01:46:01.199 through the and the public has shown through its interest, 1657 01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:07.439 the public is begging for the truth. They're just begging 1658 01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:10.840 to be told the truth on multiple topics, including this. 1659 01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:14.079 And finally that you know, there's an administration and a 1660 01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:21.359 and you know, a Congress that is listening to the 1661 01:46:21.399 --> 01:46:27.760 people and realizing that there is significant political capital in 1662 01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:34.039 transparency and in truth telling. And I hope that that continues, 1663 01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:38.560 and all signs indicate that it will. 1664 01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:45.079 Yeah, speaking of truth telling, my message to Susan go directly, goffer. 1665 01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:49.319 However you say your name, we would absolutely welcome doctor 1666 01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:54.319 John Koslowski on the show to talk about the good 1667 01:46:54.319 --> 01:46:59.439 thing Zero is doing. So Yeah, Susan, there's your opportunity. 1668 01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:02.439 You've got my email send them on over. 1669 01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:03.560 Awesome. 1670 01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.319 Well, guys, thanks, thank you so much for joining us. 1671 01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:09.399 Truly appreciate your time. We threw this thing together at 1672 01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.000 the very last minute, and I can tell by the 1673 01:47:12.039 --> 01:47:15.600 comments people are just incredibly impressed with what you guys 1674 01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:18.199 have brought to the show today, and I really do appreciate. 1675 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.560 It so our pleasure. Matt, You're doing wonderful work. So 1676 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:23.800 thank you, thank you, thank you. 1677 01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:24.640 Awesome. 1678 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:30.239 Okay, great, so again, Jordan Flowers and Lester Nare from 1679 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:31.680 a Disclosure Foundation. 1680 01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:35.119 Really appreciate you guys joining us. Okay, great, I'm just 1681 01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:36.840 gonna mute their audio here. 1682 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:42.960 Yeah, And this Sunday we have a very special live 1683 01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:49.000 edition with the author Steve Aspin, who has been studying 1684 01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:52.039 scientifically the abduction phenomenon. 1685 01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:55.520 This is a part of this whole puzzle that I 1686 01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:57.199 think is slowly. 1687 01:47:56.880 --> 01:48:01.399 Beginning to make its way into the as we've had 1688 01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:07.319 lawmakers discuss it. Congressman Tim Bershett, I believe Anna Representative 1689 01:48:07.359 --> 01:48:09.560 Annapoline A Luna, who I'm a very big fan of, 1690 01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:13.159 I think she had touched on it, and and former 1691 01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:18.039 Representative Matt Gates has has brought this particular issue ofup. 1692 01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:22.000 So again This is author Steve Aspen will be on 1693 01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:25.600 this Sunday at one pm. His book is called Out 1694 01:48:25.680 --> 01:48:31.560 of Time. You can get his book at https Colin Forward, 1695 01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:35.920 Forward Slash, out of timebook dot info. This was the 1696 01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:40.600 book you guys may have heard about that Amazon mysteriously 1697 01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:44.960 removed this. This book was highly detailed with watch of 1698 01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:49.760 scientific findings on these implants and other things that that 1699 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:52.399 are found in these people that claim to have been 1700 01:48:52.439 --> 01:48:57.239 abducted by non human intelligence, and the book was selling 1701 01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.119 like crazy and Amazon, for some reason magically. 1702 01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:02.600 Pulled the plug. 1703 01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:06.920 Now, speaking of pulling the plug, there was a article 1704 01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:12.279 that I co wrote with Josh Boswell and Christopher. 1705 01:49:11.800 --> 01:49:14.000 Sharp that was in The Daily Mail. 1706 01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:19.520 It was a bombshell article where we revealed a classified 1707 01:49:19.640 --> 01:49:24.239 office within the CIA called the Office of Global Access. 1708 01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:28.279 It operates under the the what's called the CIA Directorate 1709 01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:34.760 of Science and Technology. This office, we revealed in this 1710 01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:40.079 exclusive reporting on the Daily Mail, was essentially the kind 1711 01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:41.560 of coordinator of. 1712 01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:44.600 Crashed UFOs, crashed UAP. 1713 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:48.279 This was a story that we spent a couple of 1714 01:49:48.279 --> 01:49:50.239 months researching. 1715 01:49:50.680 --> 01:49:53.119 We had absolutely some of the. 1716 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:58.039 Highest level sources that you could possibly imagine who told 1717 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.920 us on background exactly how while the CIA Office of 1718 01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:06.439 Global Access ran as one of the as one of 1719 01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:13.319 their missions global Recovery of crashed UAP crashed UFOs, they 1720 01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:18.000 would recover these objects. They would they would generate the 1721 01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:21.720 missions to they would send a team out to recover 1722 01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.239 these things, bring them back to the United States where 1723 01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:28.920 they would either go to the f fr DR f 1724 01:50:29.039 --> 01:50:32.399 f r d c's a federally funded research development centers, 1725 01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:35.840 or they would go to the private contractors. 1726 01:50:36.079 --> 01:50:39.439 Anyway, we were warned when this article. 1727 01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:43.640 Came out would come out that it would cause a 1728 01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:50.319 panic in the CIA and our sources following this article 1729 01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:54.119 that the Daily Mail put out around three years ago 1730 01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:59.800 that we were told that it caused a literal firestorm 1731 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:05.880 at Langley, a literal firestorm at CIA, and they would 1732 01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:08.720 want to know how the hell we found this out. 1733 01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:13.680 This article went live at six am Pacific. At eleven am, 1734 01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:17.880 I'm in Las Vegas on a television project at the 1735 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:22.000 top floor the Waldorf Astoria bar, and someone either from 1736 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:26.520 CIA or most likely from one of the defense contractors 1737 01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:31.119 came and harassed me while I was sitting there. 1738 01:51:31.159 --> 01:51:32.359 I don't drink alcohol. 1739 01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:34.920 I'm sitting there drinking a soda water at the top 1740 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:36.600 floor bar the Waldorf Astoria. 1741 01:51:37.439 --> 01:51:39.399 Anyway, here's the deal. 1742 01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:46.199 The Daily Mail appears to have purposely removed this article. 1743 01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:50.439 Let me say it again, The Daily Mail appears to 1744 01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:55.800 have purposely removed this article about the CIA Office of 1745 01:51:55.840 --> 01:51:57.119 Global Access. 1746 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:02.279 The error a this server error. 1747 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:08.560 Specifically is reserved for removal of content off of a 1748 01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:13.399 website that is removed by a human. Now, we spoke 1749 01:52:13.640 --> 01:52:18.680 Josh Boswell, who is the chief investigator, a chief chief 1750 01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:24.399 investigative correspondent for the Daily Mail three months ago. Both 1751 01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:26.520 Chris Sharp and I reached out to him and said, hey, 1752 01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:31.079 just so you know, sometime in the past two months, 1753 01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:35.119 three months ago, somewhere in that window the office that 1754 01:52:35.439 --> 01:52:37.800 the article that we all wrote for the Daily Mail 1755 01:52:38.039 --> 01:52:39.039 had been removed. 1756 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:41.359 Josh Boswell looked into it. 1757 01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:45.239 He reached out to the editor was told that it 1758 01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:50.760 was a over zealous SEO search engine optimization robot that 1759 01:52:51.119 --> 01:52:55.479 had taken this thing down and had been promised by 1760 01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.560 the editor of the Daily Mail that the article would 1761 01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:03.520 be reinstated. So here we are, three months later, and 1762 01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:11.680 the most damning article about the CIA mysteriously was removed 1763 01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:15.880 by a human at the Daily Mail we actually we 1764 01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:19.520 dug into this further, and that particular I don't have 1765 01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:25.800 it in front of me, but that particular HTTP error 1766 01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:28.239 that comes up when when you go and you click 1767 01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:31.640 on the dead link for this article in the Daily Mail, 1768 01:53:32.600 --> 01:53:36.720 we did some research and what we were told was that, 1769 01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:41.560 as I mentioned that, that error indicates that a human 1770 01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:47.159 removed that article from the server. But secondarily, the only 1771 01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:52.760 time that that happens is for two reasons. One due 1772 01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:58.640 to a court case involving defamation. And second, and this 1773 01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:03.079 is the kicker, the second reason that that airpup pops 1774 01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:07.600 up is the article was removed for national security reasons 1775 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:13.359 or at the request of a government. So the Daily Mail, 1776 01:54:14.720 --> 01:54:21.680 which had this highly I mean millions of views, this 1777 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:27.199 article that we spent months on revealing the CIA office 1778 01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:31.199 a Global access and their dirty tricks, their dirty deep 1779 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:36.920 state tricks, this was removed by the Daily Mail three 1780 01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:41.840 years later. Three years later, so you have to ask yourself, 1781 01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:44.960 and maybe this is an opportunity for everyone watching this 1782 01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:50.199 show right now to email the editor of the Daily 1783 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:52.920 Mail and say what the hell. 1784 01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:53.399 Is going on? 1785 01:54:54.239 --> 01:54:57.600 I suspect Josh Boswell has done everything that he's can 1786 01:54:57.920 --> 01:55:00.880 that he has been able to do. I suspect they're 1787 01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:04.960 probably lying to Josh Boswell about this. You know, he's 1788 01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:07.640 got a job he's got to worry about. He doesn't 1789 01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:10.800 want to get get fired over there. So it's up 1790 01:55:10.800 --> 01:55:14.439 to all of you watching right now to email the 1791 01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:21.760 Daily Mail and ask them why. Right now, when the 1792 01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:28.239 UAP conversation is being is at its sort of height 1793 01:55:28.840 --> 01:55:33.800 with President Trump releasing these videos, the second batch of 1794 01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:38.039 videos and documents, when it's all over the news, it's 1795 01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:44.239 all over the mainstream media. This is the time if 1796 01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:48.880 you are a print publication, to have every bit of 1797 01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:54.399 your content that you have related to UAP, you have 1798 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:59.239 to ask yourself why the Daily Mail removed it? Of 1799 01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:05.520 all times, of all times, to remove your biggest story 1800 01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:11.399 about how the government recovers these damn things, the Daily 1801 01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:15.840 Mail decides to remove it and again, so we let 1802 01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:20.319 Josh know about this three months ago, and we couldn't 1803 01:56:20.399 --> 01:56:25.680 quite tell from the wayback machine when it was removed. 1804 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:29.359 It was removed somewhere in about a two month period, So. 1805 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:31.479 What five months ago? 1806 01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.760 As far back as five months ago, the Daily Mail 1807 01:56:36.199 --> 01:56:43.520 removed from their servers, from their archives, this article where 1808 01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:48.359 we revealed the classified operations of the CIA Director of 1809 01:56:48.399 --> 01:56:52.119 Science and Technology with their Office of Global Access this 1810 01:56:52.359 --> 01:56:58.000 huge program to go and recover crashed UFOs not only 1811 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:03.000 in friendly territory, but in denied territory. So, in other words, 1812 01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:06.239 we have the ability to go into China, Russia, wherever 1813 01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:10.560 and pick these things up at a whim. We also 1814 01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:16.520 revealed in this article that the United States government, the 1815 01:57:20.520 --> 01:57:27.640 National Geospatial Agency, has sensor systems, constant staring, sensor systems, 1816 01:57:27.680 --> 01:57:33.520 sensor platforms, ISR capability that detects these things, whether they 1817 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:37.640 are cloaked or not, detects where they go down and 1818 01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:41.079 where they crash. And then they message up to the 1819 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:43.960 Office of Global Access, Hey, you need to spin up 1820 01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:47.199 this recovery mission. You need to generate this mission to 1821 01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:50.720 go recover this thing out of China, Russia, North Korea, 1822 01:57:50.920 --> 01:57:56.560 whatever in the continental United States are within our five 1823 01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:57.279 ICE partner. 1824 01:57:57.479 --> 01:57:59.039 They have this capability. 1825 01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:03.399 The CIA has this capability to go and recover these vehicles. 1826 01:58:04.239 --> 01:58:07.000 And Members of Congress and your staffers, you need to 1827 01:58:07.039 --> 01:58:10.680 ask about what the Office of Global Access is up to, 1828 01:58:11.600 --> 01:58:15.920 What dirty little things, what naughty little things? The CIA, 1829 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:18.640 it's probably CIA messaging right now. 1830 01:58:18.760 --> 01:58:20.319 The CIA is up. 1831 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:23.560 To and what they're hiding from all of you in Congress, 1832 01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:26.079 and what they're hiding from President Trump. 1833 01:58:27.479 --> 01:58:29.079 You need to ask those questions. 1834 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:33.359 And I hope lawmakers will also reach out to the 1835 01:58:33.439 --> 01:58:34.960 Daily Mail editor. 1836 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:38.520 And ask them who told them to remove. 1837 01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:43.399 The CIA article, because I almost guarant dantee it it 1838 01:58:43.560 --> 01:58:48.560 was the CIA. You have to wonder what kind of 1839 01:58:49.359 --> 01:58:56.319 democracy we live in when the Central Intelligence Agency, in 1840 01:58:56.399 --> 01:59:02.199 all likelihood made a call to the Daily Mail magically 1841 01:59:02.399 --> 01:59:09.640 months before Trump starts to release this stuff magically, this 1842 01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:16.000 article disappears that talks about the one thing the CIA 1843 01:59:16.239 --> 01:59:20.079 does not want to talk about, and that's the fact 1844 01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:26.239 that they have, for since its inception, been recovering vehicles 1845 01:59:26.359 --> 01:59:30.399 of non human origin from our neighbors, either. 1846 01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:32.199 Out there or down below or whatever. 1847 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:39.079 But this wasn't a search engine optimization AI engine that 1848 01:59:39.239 --> 01:59:42.680 just magically went in and deleted this article from the 1849 01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:43.439 Daily Mail. 1850 01:59:43.680 --> 01:59:46.000 A human did it. A human did it. 1851 01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:52.279 So again, ask yourself, why would the Daily Mail remove. 1852 01:59:52.239 --> 01:59:54.840 One of their highest rated articles on this topic? 1853 01:59:56.600 --> 01:59:59.439 Why would they do that when this is all over 1854 01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:03.840 the news right now and I can virtually guarant dann 1855 02:00:03.920 --> 02:00:07.720 tee you it was the CIA told the Daily Mail 1856 02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:11.119 to take it down because they probably knew that Trump 1857 02:00:11.199 --> 02:00:14.920 was going to start releasing this stuff, and all they 1858 02:00:14.960 --> 02:00:19.239 want people to focus on are videos. They don't want 1859 02:00:19.239 --> 02:00:23.279 the American public asking, hey, what is the CIA doing 1860 02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:28.439 to recover these crashed UAP and reverse engineering them? 1861 02:00:28.479 --> 02:00:29.840 The CIA doesn't want that. 1862 02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:34.520 And I guarantee you the harassment that I received as 1863 02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:38.039 an American journalist who does not hold a security clearance, 1864 02:00:38.640 --> 02:00:42.960 the harassment I received at the Waldorf Astoria six hours 1865 02:00:43.239 --> 02:00:44.560 after this. 1866 02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:47.319 Article went live in the Daily Mail, it told you 1867 02:00:47.399 --> 02:00:49.039 two things. Told me two things. 1868 02:00:49.359 --> 02:00:53.319 One, the CIA or the NSA had been monitoring our 1869 02:00:53.399 --> 02:00:55.000 signal conversations. 1870 02:00:55.239 --> 02:00:56.479 We were very locked down. 1871 02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:02.399 And two, it told me that the CIA had been 1872 02:01:02.479 --> 02:01:05.840 monitoring my movements, because how the hell did they know 1873 02:01:06.319 --> 02:01:10.319 that hours later I would be flying to Vegas. How 1874 02:01:10.520 --> 02:01:13.479 in the hell did they know our hours after this 1875 02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:17.039 article came came out, that I would be staying at 1876 02:01:17.079 --> 02:01:19.119 the Waldorf Astoria on the Strip. 1877 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:22.520 How would how did the CIA know that I was 1878 02:01:22.640 --> 02:01:23.039 up at the. 1879 02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:29.479 Twenty eighth floor, top floor bar of the Waldorf Astoria. 1880 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:36.399 So what it tells you is the CIA was illegally 1881 02:01:36.720 --> 02:01:40.960 monitoring the movements of an American journalist. It tells you 1882 02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:45.800 that the CIA was monitoring the communications of an American 1883 02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:52.760 journalist and representative Anna Polina, Timburshett, Eric Berlison. I implore 1884 02:01:52.840 --> 02:01:56.239 you to look into that because I guarantee you if 1885 02:01:56.279 --> 02:02:03.239 the CIA or NSA is monitoring my communications, I guarandamn 1886 02:02:03.319 --> 02:02:10.560 to you, Congresswoman Luna, Burshett and Congressman Berlison, they're monitoring 1887 02:02:10.640 --> 02:02:16.720 your stuff too. I guarantee you the CIA is monitoring 1888 02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:22.000 the communications of members of Congress, and that I can't 1889 02:02:22.039 --> 02:02:25.439 even tell you how much that makes my blood boil. 1890 02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:30.800 So Congresswoman Luna, Congressman Burshett, Congressman Burlison, and the other 1891 02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:33.800 folks on the UAP Task Force, you can take this 1892 02:02:33.880 --> 02:02:38.399 to the bank. The CIA is monitoring your communications. They 1893 02:02:38.399 --> 02:02:41.560 are looking at your emails, they are listening to your calls. 1894 02:02:42.920 --> 02:02:46.560 And General Mike Flynn, who I politically disagree with on 1895 02:02:46.680 --> 02:02:51.119 most things, set it best today on X The CIA 1896 02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:55.880 needs to be splintered into a thousand pieces. In its 1897 02:02:55.960 --> 02:03:02.600 current form, the CIA needs to be dismantled period. The 1898 02:03:02.640 --> 02:03:08.079 fact that the CIA is illegally monitoring the communications and 1899 02:03:08.399 --> 02:03:12.159 movement of an American journalist, the fact that the CIA 1900 02:03:12.600 --> 02:03:16.840 was spying on former OD and I director Tulci Gabbard 1901 02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:20.880 and their dig group. There is nothing more on American 1902 02:03:20.960 --> 02:03:25.800 than that. And when President John F. Kennedy said, just 1903 02:03:26.000 --> 02:03:30.079 days before he was assassinated by the CIA that the 1904 02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:34.800 CIA needed to be splintered into a thousand pieces, President. 1905 02:03:34.479 --> 02:03:36.960 Kennedy was right. He was right. 1906 02:03:37.279 --> 02:03:41.399 General Mike Flynn is right, And folks in Congress, it 1907 02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:47.000 is damn time to hold the CIA accountable. Senators, United 1908 02:03:47.039 --> 02:03:50.640 States Senators, who I guarant Dan tee you the CIA 1909 02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:55.960 as monitor monitoring your emails, your telephone calls. You know 1910 02:03:56.000 --> 02:03:59.920 what time it is. It's time for a Church style committee. 1911 02:04:00.720 --> 02:04:04.720 Senator Frank Church held in the early nineteen seventies a 1912 02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:12.199 series of Senate hearings where they revealed to the American 1913 02:04:12.279 --> 02:04:16.319 public all of the highly highly illegal stuff that the 1914 02:04:16.359 --> 02:04:18.560 Central Intelligence Agency. 1915 02:04:18.279 --> 02:04:20.239 Had been up to in the nineteen fifties. 1916 02:04:21.399 --> 02:04:24.840 And one little tidbit that did not make it out 1917 02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:28.359 into the hearing was the fact that the CIA had 1918 02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:34.920 been paying off American journalists, American newsroom editors, American network 1919 02:04:36.279 --> 02:04:37.119 network heads. 1920 02:04:37.279 --> 02:04:40.439 The CIA had been paying them cash to. 1921 02:04:40.520 --> 02:04:45.079 Spread disinformation that was supposed to be out in the 1922 02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:49.319 Senate hearing, and you know who quashed that. CIA Director 1923 02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:54.479 George Herbert walker Bush. He cut a backroom deal with 1924 02:04:55.960 --> 02:05:00.479 a Senator Church to bury that little thing. The one 1925 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:03.600 thing they did not want out was that the CIA 1926 02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:08.800 had been paying off and basically controlling American journalists to 1927 02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:12.840 spread anti Russian propaganda. I mean, yes, it was anti Russian, 1928 02:05:12.880 --> 02:05:14.840 but nonetheless it was propaganda. 1929 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:17.600 This is what the CIA does now. 1930 02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:20.680 The other thing I will say to Congresswoman Annapoline a Luna, 1931 02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:26.680 Congressman Timbershett, and Congressman Eric Berlison is that this is 1932 02:05:26.760 --> 02:05:31.560 still going on. The CIA and the Pentagon are using 1933 02:05:31.600 --> 02:05:38.159 a legal loophole called the Smith Munt Modernization Act. This 1934 02:05:38.359 --> 02:05:43.000 was signed into law, unfortunately by President Obama. And basically, 1935 02:05:43.079 --> 02:05:47.399 this law signed into law, or this legislation signed into 1936 02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:52.479 law by President Obama, gave the deep state the green 1937 02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:59.760 light to sow disinformation, to target the American public with disinformation, 1938 02:06:00.279 --> 02:06:02.600 not only about UAP, about whatever they. 1939 02:06:02.479 --> 02:06:05.680 Want that my friends in Congress, that is. 1940 02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:11.760 The legal mechanism and again the legal mechanism the Pentagon 1941 02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:17.079 and the CIA are using to target the American public 1942 02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:18.520 with disinformation. 1943 02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:22.840 It is a legal loophole it is. 1944 02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:28.479 And I don't remember the executive order that prohibits the 1945 02:06:28.520 --> 02:06:33.600 CIA from targeting American citizens with propaganda, but that is 1946 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:39.039 what the Smith Modernism Smith Mont Modernization Act does. That 1947 02:06:39.279 --> 02:06:43.760 is the whole that President Obama signed into law that 1948 02:06:43.920 --> 02:06:47.800 lets the Deep State run amok and target all of us, 1949 02:06:48.720 --> 02:06:55.000 every American, every member of Congress with disinformation. It is 1950 02:06:55.039 --> 02:07:02.439 the mechanism that they can have the journal and their 1951 02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:06.039 little agreement, CIA's agreement with a Wall Street Journal to 1952 02:07:06.439 --> 02:07:08.439 spread disinformation. 1953 02:07:08.239 --> 02:07:11.520 About the UAP issue. And I'm talking about. 1954 02:07:11.760 --> 02:07:14.840 Wall Street Journal reporters Joel Scheckman and a ruin of 1955 02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:15.520 this Janatha. 1956 02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:18.399 That is how they are able to do this stuff. 1957 02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:22.119 And folks in Congress and the staffers that watch this show, 1958 02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:26.000 it is your duty in protecting the Constitution of the 1959 02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:32.479 United States from all enemies foreign and domestic, to shut 1960 02:07:32.520 --> 02:07:37.439 this CIA stuff down, to shut down the disinformation, to 1961 02:07:37.520 --> 02:07:44.079 shut down the CIA targeting of whistleblowers, to shut down 1962 02:07:44.359 --> 02:07:48.840 what Northrop Grumman has been doing and targeting whistleblowers. And 1963 02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:52.000 believe me, it is stuff that would land people in 1964 02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:58.800 federal prison for life. And this entire program, which the 1965 02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:03.399 CIA is one of the primary stakeholders is having Northrop 1966 02:08:03.439 --> 02:08:09.399 Grumman and security contractors go and do some really highly 1967 02:08:09.479 --> 02:08:15.840 illegal things that violate federal law that would land anybody 1968 02:08:15.840 --> 02:08:20.640 committing them in federal prison for life. So think about 1969 02:08:20.680 --> 02:08:23.600 what would land somebody in federal prison for life. And 1970 02:08:23.640 --> 02:08:26.760 those are the things that a couple people in Northrop 1971 02:08:26.800 --> 02:08:34.840 Grumman are directing to particular security contractors to execute. When 1972 02:08:34.880 --> 02:08:41.319 you are executing whistleblowers, when you are targeting whistleblowers with 1973 02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:46.840 directed energy weapons. Folks in Congress, it is incumbent on 1974 02:08:47.039 --> 02:08:56.000 you to protect this nation against domestic enemies because they 1975 02:08:56.039 --> 02:08:58.720 are in our midst. This has been going on for 1976 02:08:58.760 --> 02:09:02.720 a very long time, and only all of you in 1977 02:09:02.800 --> 02:09:07.640 Congress that have the power to shut this shit down. 1978 02:09:09.239 --> 02:09:10.920 Because at the end of the day, when you have 1979 02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:18.119 the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency, directing directing defense contractors 1980 02:09:18.560 --> 02:09:24.079 and security contractors such as wacken Hut and Pinkerton and 1981 02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:27.279 the companies that they have involved, that they have evolved 1982 02:09:27.319 --> 02:09:30.600 to which by the way, those companies got moved into 1983 02:09:30.680 --> 02:09:36.319 shell corporations overseas to hide the athelonies that they are committing. 1984 02:09:37.119 --> 02:09:39.439 It is up to all of you in Congress. 1985 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:42.960 To do the right thing, do the right thing for 1986 02:09:43.039 --> 02:09:46.199 the people that elected you, that put you in that chair. 1987 02:09:47.600 --> 02:09:53.039 Because guess what, there aren't just foreign enemies. There are 1988 02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:57.960 domestic enemies that are on the government payroll. There are 1989 02:09:58.000 --> 02:10:02.560 domestic enemies in Northrop g and others that are are 1990 02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:07.399 undermining the constitution of the United States, and they are 1991 02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:13.920 undermining the national security of the United States. It is 1992 02:10:14.039 --> 02:10:18.000 damn time, Congress, you gotta do something about this because 1993 02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:20.439 if you, if you, if you, if you're fine with 1994 02:10:20.640 --> 02:10:23.720 just a bunch of videos coming out and things of 1995 02:10:23.760 --> 02:10:26.720 that nature, you're you're missing the forest from the trees. 1996 02:10:29.600 --> 02:10:32.760 Because what the CIA is doing to this country, it 1997 02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:33.760 is a cancer. 1998 02:10:34.079 --> 02:10:34.960 It is a cancer. 1999 02:10:35.199 --> 02:10:39.520 The CIA needs to be splintered into one thousand pieces. 2000 02:10:39.800 --> 02:10:45.399 There need to be Senate hearings. And the people that 2001 02:10:45.479 --> 02:10:49.199 are working for Northrop Grumming and other contractors, and in 2002 02:10:49.239 --> 02:10:55.760 particular for the security contractors Pinkerton and Wackenhut, these people 2003 02:10:55.840 --> 02:10:59.560 need to be brought up on federal charges. There needs 2004 02:10:59.560 --> 02:11:06.199 to be grand jury investigation right now. These people need 2005 02:11:06.439 --> 02:11:10.439 to be held to account. They cannot be allowed to 2006 02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:14.319 get away with this. And they're laughing at all of 2007 02:11:14.359 --> 02:11:18.319 you in Congress with they're laughing behind your backs because 2008 02:11:18.319 --> 02:11:22.439 they're listening to your conversations, they're monitoring your emails. They 2009 02:11:22.479 --> 02:11:25.600 don't give a damn about the Constitution. They certainly don't 2010 02:11:25.640 --> 02:11:28.800 give a damn about any of you in Congress. You're 2011 02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:33.159 all temporary employees in their minds. But at the end 2012 02:11:33.159 --> 02:11:35.439 of the day, all of you in Congress, you are 2013 02:11:35.439 --> 02:11:38.800 the only thing protecting the constitution of the United States. 2014 02:11:38.960 --> 02:11:43.720 You're the only body that is protecting the citizens of 2015 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:47.039 the United States. You're the only ones that are protecting 2016 02:11:47.319 --> 02:11:50.760 the national sovereignty of the United States. And like I 2017 02:11:50.800 --> 02:11:54.399 said earlier, you need to ask about El Paso because 2018 02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:57.560 the CIA and the Pentagon, if you haven't been read 2019 02:11:57.560 --> 02:12:01.119 in to the high side information on this, they are 2020 02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:05.119 aligning to you because what happened in El Paso is 2021 02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:10.960 unbelievably frightening. It is not the cartels, it is not 2022 02:12:11.319 --> 02:12:16.079 some drone. What happened in El Paso, what truly happened. 2023 02:12:16.279 --> 02:12:21.840 What they are not telling Congress is terrifying. It is terrifying, 2024 02:12:22.920 --> 02:12:26.359 and it is damn time that the Pentagon and the 2025 02:12:26.399 --> 02:12:31.119 Executive Branch and the Trump administration come clean with the 2026 02:12:31.199 --> 02:12:37.039 American public. President Trump speaking directly to you. You are 2027 02:12:37.039 --> 02:12:42.239 the only president that will ever do this. If this 2028 02:12:42.319 --> 02:12:46.279 switches to a democratic administration, or if the House and 2029 02:12:46.760 --> 02:12:50.640 Senate flip Democrat flip to the Democratic side come midterms, 2030 02:12:50.840 --> 02:12:55.079 this issue is dead. The Democrats won't do a goddamn 2031 02:12:55.119 --> 02:13:00.520 thing about this nothing. So to every everyone in the 2032 02:13:00.520 --> 02:13:04.119 Trump administration, to President Trump, this is your chance to 2033 02:13:04.319 --> 02:13:08.039 make history. This is your chance to give the middle 2034 02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:11.079 finger to the deep state. This is your chance to 2035 02:13:11.079 --> 02:13:14.319 give the middle finger to the CIA and the Pentagon 2036 02:13:14.600 --> 02:13:17.800 and the Lifers and all of the folks that are 2037 02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:23.039 doing their dandist to undermine President Trump. If it doesn't 2038 02:13:23.079 --> 02:13:26.600 happen now, it's not going to happen. So for all 2039 02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:30.239 of my Republican friends, my MAGA friends that are watching this, 2040 02:13:30.600 --> 02:13:33.800 you need to let this administration know. You need to 2041 02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:38.600 let your Republican lawmakers know that this thing's got to 2042 02:13:38.640 --> 02:13:43.439 get fast tracked. It's now or never, because when and 2043 02:13:43.479 --> 02:13:46.800 if the Democrats take back over, the issue goes away, 2044 02:13:47.199 --> 02:13:50.439 they will make it go away. You cannot trust the 2045 02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:52.760 Democratic Party to do the right. 2046 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:56.439 Thing on the uap UFO issue. 2047 02:13:56.720 --> 02:14:01.399 All right, So enough of my rant again, My hat 2048 02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:05.800 is off to Representative Anna Polina Luna tim Bershett, Eric 2049 02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:09.800 Burlison and their staffers that have really made all. 2050 02:14:09.720 --> 02:14:10.840 Of this possible. 2051 02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:14.920 I encourage all of you, all of those lawmakers that 2052 02:14:14.960 --> 02:14:18.960 I just mentioned, to please hold the administration to account 2053 02:14:19.359 --> 02:14:24.720 and don't let Arrow off the hook. Sean Kirkpatrick had 2054 02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:31.880 a particular senator completely bamboozled, completely bamboozoled. Don't let John 2055 02:14:31.920 --> 02:14:34.720 Koslowski or Arrow do the same thing to all of you. 2056 02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:36.359 Hold them to account. 2057 02:14:36.640 --> 02:14:40.479 Ask them where this where, this two year old, this 2058 02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:45.680 historic to this historical report that's two years overdue. 2059 02:14:45.520 --> 02:14:47.039 Ask them where that's at. 2060 02:14:48.760 --> 02:14:53.279 Ask them what Arlow's solutions, the contractor that is running Arrow. 2061 02:14:53.600 --> 02:14:56.479 You should also ask them what they're up to and 2062 02:14:56.640 --> 02:15:00.399 ask them why they sent me a message on LinkedIn 2063 02:15:01.239 --> 02:15:04.880 to apply for a job at Arrow. Where the desired 2064 02:15:04.960 --> 02:15:10.439 qualification was qualifications was for me to have a background 2065 02:15:10.600 --> 02:15:17.760 in information operations, information activities, and deception activities. So Members 2066 02:15:17.800 --> 02:15:21.880 of Congress, you need to ask doctor John Koslowski why 2067 02:15:21.920 --> 02:15:25.840 they tried to hire me and wanted me to have 2068 02:15:25.960 --> 02:15:31.720 a background in propaganda. Because I tell you what, at 2069 02:15:31.720 --> 02:15:33.439 the end of the day, I don't care if Arrow 2070 02:15:33.520 --> 02:15:36.319 or the federal government came and offered me a half 2071 02:15:36.359 --> 02:15:38.520 a million dollars to go work for them and to 2072 02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:39.880 tow their party line. 2073 02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:43.560 I can't be bought off at all. 2074 02:15:43.600 --> 02:15:45.239 And I said it one time, and I'll say it 2075 02:15:45.279 --> 02:15:48.520 again if something ever happens to me. It wasn't suicide, 2076 02:15:48.520 --> 02:15:51.680 it wasn't a depression, it wasn't drugs, it wasn't a 2077 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:56.560 petty crime, it wasn't a car crash. Because unfortunately it's 2078 02:15:56.640 --> 02:16:02.720 journalists and whistleblowers who get targeted by the CIA. And uh, 2079 02:16:02.800 --> 02:16:06.800 and it's an American, it's frankly, Uh, it's it's perverse. 2080 02:16:07.119 --> 02:16:08.199 It's disgusting. 2081 02:16:08.720 --> 02:16:13.439 Uh. The way that the CIA is operating themselves is perverse. 2082 02:16:13.560 --> 02:16:17.520 It's disgusting. It is the deep state. This ci A 2083 02:16:18.079 --> 02:16:21.279 is the deep seat of the deep state deep state. 2084 02:16:21.920 --> 02:16:25.600 And it's time we hold them to account and disintegrate them, 2085 02:16:25.800 --> 02:16:29.279 put them back into some some form that where there 2086 02:16:29.319 --> 02:16:32.600 is actually some true accountability. But anyway, thank you to 2087 02:16:32.639 --> 02:16:34.479 President Trump for what you're doing on this. 2088 02:16:34.840 --> 02:16:36.280 Please keep pushing the ball. 2089 02:16:36.879 --> 02:16:40.159 Talk about the crash retrieval program, talk about what the 2090 02:16:40.159 --> 02:16:43.799 CIA Office of Global Access is doing, Talk about what. 2091 02:16:43.840 --> 02:16:45.959 The the illegality that. 2092 02:16:45.840 --> 02:16:49.040 The defense contractors such as Northrop Grumming are up to 2093 02:16:49.440 --> 02:16:54.920 talk about the targeting, the physical harassment and physical attacks 2094 02:16:55.200 --> 02:17:01.639 against whistleblowers by these defense contractor of these security contractors 2095 02:17:01.680 --> 02:17:04.639 that are working for the defense contractors to insulate the 2096 02:17:04.680 --> 02:17:08.360 CIA from the bloody things that they are working on. 2097 02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:11.000 It is time to do this. It's time to put 2098 02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:12.159 America first. 2099 02:17:12.399 --> 02:17:15.440 It is time to say fuck you to the deep State, 2100 02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:20.079 fuck you to the CIA, and stand up for Americans, 2101 02:17:20.280 --> 02:17:23.120 and stand up for the men and women that wear 2102 02:17:23.319 --> 02:17:27.719 the uniform and put their lives on the line for 2103 02:17:28.040 --> 02:17:32.520 this country, and especially for the whistleblowers who have given 2104 02:17:32.559 --> 02:17:38.079 it all to right this wrong, whistleblowers who are on 2105 02:17:38.120 --> 02:17:44.239 the verge of bankruptcy and have lost their security clearances 2106 02:17:44.280 --> 02:17:48.000 all because of the CIA, the Deep State, the Pentagon. 2107 02:17:48.399 --> 02:17:50.280 This shit's got to come to an end, and it's 2108 02:17:50.319 --> 02:17:52.319 got to come to an end right now.