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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday edition of our program and coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>As usual on Wednesdays, we have our West End Bureau chief,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Moore Hill join us in our number two, as

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<v Speaker 1>will the unforgettable guard Sean Woods. But we'll talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Sean about Pete Rose, about UK football, and we'll work

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<v Speaker 1>in some basketball as well, what with UK's Pro Day

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next week as well as Madness also coming

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<v Speaker 1>up at the bottom of the hour, JJ Weaver, who

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<v Speaker 1>of course is a really talented outside linebacker for the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 1>and he and his teammates pulled off that upset of

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<v Speaker 1>ole mission. If not for the Georgia Alabama game, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been the lead story in college football day long.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't care. They got the win down in Oxford,

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<v Speaker 1>and JJ has been selected to the NCAA Football Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>Subdivision All State AFCA Good Works Team, which puts him

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<v Speaker 1>in the running for the Danny Wirfol Trophy, named of

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<v Speaker 1>course after the really gifted former Florida Gator quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>led Florida to the ninety six nca Championship under Steve Spurrier.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk with JJ at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I covered the SEC. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this before. I know I have the SEC Football

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<v Speaker 1>Championship game for about fifteen years for the SEC Radio network.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Florida wins the SEC Championship that season

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<v Speaker 1>and Danny Warfol came into the hotel bar, not that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a bar hopper or whatever or whatever, but as

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<v Speaker 1>he came back from the stadium and the team was

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<v Speaker 1>staying in the Hyatt and Man, when he walked in

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<v Speaker 1>bought the cheers went up. But a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>worked for the Florida equivalent back then of the cat's

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<v Speaker 1>paws was called Gator Bait, and he told me, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that weekend about Danny Wirfole and how Werfel was

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<v Speaker 1>able to handle Steve Spurrier. If you're a Kentucky football fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been around for a while or maybe you know

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<v Speaker 1>about the game in nineteen ninety three, that's when Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>had Florida down beaten and then lost it at the

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<v Speaker 1>last second on Chris Doring's first touchdown catch. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Worfol threw it, but it might have been Terry Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember exactly, but I know this that Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Spurrier shuffled his quarterbacks all night long, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, because both of them kept throwing picks

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<v Speaker 1>one through four the other through three. But Kentucky didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage, didn't score. And then Doring, who's been on

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<v Speaker 1>my show many times, and as I've mentioned before, I

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<v Speaker 1>have chosen to forgive him for catching that pass. But

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<v Speaker 1>Worfle went on to become a real solid leader for

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<v Speaker 1>that team, played briefly in the NFL as a backup

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad guy. But my friend Mark Bradley, who writes

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<v Speaker 1>for the Atlanta Journal Constitution so well for many many years,

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<v Speaker 1>he once told me, because he covered that game for

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<v Speaker 1>the Harold Leader, he said, I think Spra and Spurrier

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<v Speaker 1>flip flop quarterbacks all the time, not just in that

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<v Speaker 1>game or just for that season. He said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Spurrier changes quarterbacks so much because he can't put himself in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was a perfect explanation of why

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<v Speaker 1>he did that. But what my buddy told me about

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<v Speaker 1>Danny warfol was Worfel was a very strong Christian, divided

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<v Speaker 1>in his faith and therefore answered as they say to

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<v Speaker 1>a higher power, and to too many kids, the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach is that higher power. But Worfel, my friend said,

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<v Speaker 1>never worried about Spurrier like that because of his faith

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<v Speaker 1>and that helped him get through the tough times playing

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for Steve Spurrier. But a good man, good player,

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<v Speaker 1>and has a trophy named after him. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>there is one of those trophies because when you win that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the kid gets a trophy. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the school gets a separate trophy, but I know this.

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<v Speaker 1>In the UK trophy case at the Fieldhouse there is

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<v Speaker 1>a Werfel Trophy thanks to Courtney Love who won it

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<v Speaker 1>not so long ago. And now it's JJ Weaver who

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<v Speaker 1>gets the opportunity Courtney Love wanted back in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that. So we'll talk to JJ a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on. Speaking of Alabama Georgia, such a great

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<v Speaker 1>game and hyped all week as well it should have been,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to ABC and ESPN their streaming platforms, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it was on ABC. ESPN streamed it. The Nielsen

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<v Speaker 1>ratings were incredible. It averaged twelve million viewers, most watched

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<v Speaker 1>regular season primetime game since twenty seventeen, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama Florida State game on Opening weekend got twelve point

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<v Speaker 1>three million. Alabama Georgia was ESPN's most streamed regular season

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<v Speaker 1>game ever. Audience peaked at fourteen point one million from

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to fifteen to eleven thirty PM. That's when Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>was fighting off that rally from Georgia and Ryan Williams

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<v Speaker 1>caught that seventy five yard touchdown pass from Jalen Milroe

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple minutes left, and of course, Carson Beck

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<v Speaker 1>throws a pick in the end zone to end the

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<v Speaker 1>game and any chance that Georgia had. But the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>were phenomenal. And here's what's even more amazing. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Fowler, who called the game for ABC, those fans,

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<v Speaker 1>the million who tuned in almost didn't see it because

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<v Speaker 1>Fowler said, they had a power generator die and so

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<v Speaker 1>that could have meant no broadcast. He said at one

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<v Speaker 1>point he couldn't hear himself or his partners, and the

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<v Speaker 1>crew of course scrambled to get things back on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>to get things powered back up, and as he pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>when your computer goes down or when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>restart it, it's got to reboot, right, Well, imagine all

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<v Speaker 1>those trucks plural, multiple trucks having to reboot, and how

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<v Speaker 1>much time it would take. So the generator dies and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to get a backup really quickly. They died

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<v Speaker 1>before they went on the air, and they brought in

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<v Speaker 1>the college game day generator. Of course it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of campus. Needed a police escort, so they

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<v Speaker 1>get into the stadium, they hook it all up and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever was in charge of that and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>equipment didn't get fried. I get nervous just thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't even part of the production team. Amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing that they were able to survive that. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw the game, good for you. He enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, but you almost didn't get to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>About that follow up on Pete Rose, the coroner has

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<v Speaker 1>issued a report stating that the hit King died of

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<v Speaker 1>natural causes, meaning it was his failing health basically high

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<v Speaker 1>blood pressure, hardening of the arteries, heart disease caused. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain by then. I'm no doctor, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>diabetes and I'm always warned about these things. I take medication,

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<v Speaker 1>try to follow the diet, and I'm sure he did

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<v Speaker 1>too to a point. But at eighty three his body

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<v Speaker 1>finally succumbed. And that's the insidiousness of diabetes. This disease

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<v Speaker 1>can really ravage your body at an accelerated rate. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete was eighty three but always kept himself in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good shape. But he finally caught up with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the report from the corner in Nevottom. People have

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<v Speaker 1>weighed in on Pete Rose, and Tony Korneiser had a

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<v Speaker 1>great point on PTI with Mike Wilbon. Why he and

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<v Speaker 1>so many reporters loved talking to Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose was a sports writer's dream, and I covered

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<v Speaker 2>him here and there. He would talk to anybody and everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would talk for hours. He knew all of

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<v Speaker 2>his numbers, all of his numbers, and he knew all

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<v Speaker 2>of your numbers. He knew how many career doubles you had,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew how many sacrifice flies you had. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's abilities. I mean it was like he was a

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<v Speaker 2>human computer, a baseball computer. Remember that firstbee computer, UNIVAC.

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose was the UNIVAC. He knew everything about baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>could he be a caveman. Yes, yes, he could be

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<v Speaker 2>a caveman, Yes he could.

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<v Speaker 1>But he'd fill your notebook, he would fill your recorder,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd fill your camera with everything you needed because he

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<v Speaker 1>loved talking to reporters, just love talking baseball. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more with Gary Moore, Western Bureau Chief about Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 1>coming up an hour number two. Baseball playoffs under way,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we're pre recorded, so I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go with scores or anything. But book Shamby made

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<v Speaker 1>a great comment on one of the national broadcasts. This

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to how different people hate different announcers, And

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<v Speaker 1>having been in this business for a long time, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard it. I've had stuff directed to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has about our biases, and you hate this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you hate that guy, you hate these fans you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you always hear it's more about the national guys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially Joe Buck, who I think does a great job

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he shows any bias toward anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but so many people rip him from being biased one

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<v Speaker 1>way or the other. And Shawby made a great point,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a sarcastic line. He wasn't mean about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he shared these thoughts with the national audience yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was referring to the fact that all the

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<v Speaker 1>local broadcasts, the announcers you've heard all year calling games

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<v Speaker 1>for your team, well they're done for the season and

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<v Speaker 1>all the games now belong to the national network. So

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<v Speaker 1>they bring in the national announcers and they're not biased

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<v Speaker 1>as there shouldn't be, and they really aren't in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what Shabi said, as.

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying earlier, this is the time of the

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<v Speaker 3>year the national guys come in. Were force scouting against

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite team, both teams. That's usually the way people

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<v Speaker 3>take in giving a shout out to Gary Keathan Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>Sideline reporters are people to Steve Gelbs love you so

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<v Speaker 3>via minerd on the Milwaukee side bold do I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's too great broadcasting. So I didn't need to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to amend that because leaving Gelzzi out, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Helpe that hit home with people who are already gearing

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<v Speaker 1>up complaints for how biased toward the other team. This

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<v Speaker 1>announcer is One other note before we hit the brake,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst kept secret in the NBA. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a secret anymore. But the Knicks and

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<v Speaker 1>the Timberwolves are swapping Wildcats, among others, Karl Anthony Towns

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<v Speaker 1>for Julius Randall. I gotta get my New York Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Mike Sephosnik on this story. But now it's a

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<v Speaker 1>three way deal Nicks, Timberwolves, Hornets, and the Hornets end

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<v Speaker 1>of it does not include any former Wildcat. But anytime

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<v Speaker 1>there's a trade in the NBA, now I look closely

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<v Speaker 1>because the odds are thanks to Caliperi putting all these

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the league, it just might involve a former Wildcat.

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<v Speaker 1>And this one is a blockbuster, multiplayer, multi team deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Karl Anthony Towns going to New York and he's

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<v Speaker 1>from New Jersey for Julius Randall. So I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks giving up on him. And it's financially driven. I've

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<v Speaker 1>read up on this. It's what could the Timberwolves afford

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<v Speaker 1>to keep because it's not just Towns they're dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>but other players, So part of it, a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is financially driven, and both the Knicks and

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<v Speaker 1>the Timberwolves have flirted with success and maybe a new

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<v Speaker 1>change of venue for both Randall and Towns. Will help

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<v Speaker 1>them take the next step. So we'll find out more

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<v Speaker 1>when we can. Up next, a little Kentucky football history

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<v Speaker 1>for you want to come here on the Big Boon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirty wlap Welcome back to the Big Boon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider coming up in just a few minutes away from JJ. Weaver,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky senior outside linebacker, selected as one of only eleven

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<v Speaker 1>members from the NCA Football Bowl Subdivision to the All

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<v Speaker 1>State AFCA Good Works Team, which puts him into running

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<v Speaker 1>for the twenty twenty four All State war Full Trophy

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<v Speaker 1>name for former Gators quarterback Danny Whirfel. That was something

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<v Speaker 1>that Courtney Love, a former Kentucky linebacker, won a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. So we'll hear from JJ about that, about

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<v Speaker 1>his season, but of course about all the good work

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<v Speaker 1>from UK football and basketball to the late great Pete Rose,

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<v Speaker 1>And Darren Hedrick, the radio voice of UK Baseball, knows

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<v Speaker 1>as much baseball as anybody I know, so that should

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting. But like I said, we'll run the goale

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<v Speaker 1>as we always do football, baseball and basketball. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to share with you though a little history and I

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear Bryant Coach of the Week, given by different agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's ironic about that was Bobby Dodd and Bear

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<v Speaker 1>about this only because when Bill Curry was hired at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you do a little deep dive on the background,

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<v Speaker 1>at Alabama. The reason number one couldn't beat Auburn. But

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at what happened at Alabama before

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<v Speaker 1>the new standard for everybody. But there were times that

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<v Speaker 1>being a head coach there. And then Curry worked against him.

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<v Speaker 1>He played for Bobby Dodd at Georgia Tech. And so

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<v Speaker 1>now Alabama has hired a Georgia Tech guy. Well why

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<v Speaker 1>did they do that? Well, Job Thomas was the president,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Sloan, who had a great relationship with job Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>was the athletics director, and Steve Sloan had a great

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Bill Curry. So now the three of them

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<v Speaker 1>came in and like I said, they won. But Curry

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<v Speaker 1>was never popular, never at Georgia Tech. And ironically enough,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Wikipedia, it was in nineteen seventy five that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't give any If I ever get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Curry kind of got the two coaches together, and

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<v Speaker 1>this had to have been big. Bill was still playing

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<v Speaker 1>a sportscaster in Atlanta in the offseason. But he got

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<v Speaker 1>the two guys together and they buried the hatchet somewhat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how intensely they got along after that,

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<v Speaker 1>history and quite the coincidence that Mark Stoops is or

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<v Speaker 1>has been honored by two different groups, one representing Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>initially to Georgia Tech versus Alabama at Legion Field. After

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Chick Graining was playing coverage relaxed after the

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<v Speaker 1>knocked him out concussion. He was never able to play

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<v Speaker 1>football again. Dodd sent Brian a letter asking him to

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<v Speaker 1>suspend Holt after the game, said he had done it

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose. Brian never did. That infuriated Dodd, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of lit the fire under Dodd to pull

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<v Speaker 1>out of the SEC. Georgia Tech lost that game, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, ten nothing. Bama goes on to win the

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<v Speaker 1>AP National Championship. It's first. Now supposedly the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech left the ACC. Many of you know Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Tech used to be a member of the SEC, But

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly Dodd was upset with over recruitment. Back then, you

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<v Speaker 1>could sign only one hundred and forty football and basketball

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<v Speaker 1>players total, but those teams were still allowed to sign

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<v Speaker 1>up to forty five players a year, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>recruit your full allotment of players each year, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be well over the one forty max even with normal attrition.

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<v Speaker 1>Dodd worked to meet the guidelines. Other schools kept right

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<v Speaker 1>on piling up people and allotting all of a nominal

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<v Speaker 1>amount to football, and Dodd was upset about that, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about it, and eventually Georgia Tech left the league.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to have the rule changed and said we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna leave unless you change that rule. Bear allegedly had

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<v Speaker 1>promised Dodd he would get his president to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>Dodd's position, which would have changed the rule. But in

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<v Speaker 1>January of sixty four, Alabama's president voted against Dodd's position.

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<v Speaker 1>The president split six to six, but Georgia Tech's president

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<v Speaker 1>immediately in that meeting walked to the podium and announced,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out. We're pulling out of the sec How about

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<v Speaker 1>that now. One of the sidebars here was a story

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<v Speaker 1>in the Saturday Evening Post Kids, that's an old magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>Furman Bisher, who's a legendary sports writer, wrote a story

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<v Speaker 1>that charged Bear Bryant with encouraging his players to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in brutality once again. This was in nineteen sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>against Georgia Tech. And that story also six months later

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<v Speaker 1>there was a story called the Story of a College

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<v Speaker 1>Football Fix and charged Bryan and Wally Butts, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the ad at Georgia, was conspiring in sixty to fix

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<v Speaker 1>their game, the Georgia Alabama game in Alabama's favor. Both

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<v Speaker 1>sued Bear Bryant sued Wally Butt sued Bear settles out

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<v Speaker 1>of court for the publishing house for three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars but got three point one million landmark case and

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so much history involved with Alabama and Georgia Tech,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Dodd, Bear Bryant, And as I said, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until I had looked into this and googled Bobby Dodd

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<v Speaker 1>that Bill Curry's name came up, and he negotiated the

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<v Speaker 1>peace settlement in nineteen seventy five. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>those teams obviously had stopped playing and they started playing again.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you look back at the history of SEC football,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of little nuggets like that, just like

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<v Speaker 1>notes from today's show. It was on this day in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine that Kentucky upset Arkansas, which was number

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen at the time in USA today number twenty in

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<v Speaker 1>the AP and Kentucky was supposed to be it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I think two and two, and Owen

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<v Speaker 1>in and Clapper the Wildcats, but did not mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>in the first segment. So I like history. I like

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<v Speaker 1>when you can look back on days like today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that Kentucky team. I don't specifically remember that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Kentucky won it. But that was a season

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<v Speaker 1>that was full of surprises, nineteen ninety nine when the

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<v Speaker 1>defense ruled the day. And as I said earlier, that

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<v Speaker 1>could the case for this Kentucky team. Up next, JJ

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<v Speaker 1>Weaver part of that UK defense. Later on, Sean Woods

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<v Speaker 1>Moon Sider joining us. Now we've talked before JJ Weaver

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<v Speaker 1>and I at practices and after games on the UK

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<v Speaker 1>about being part of the All State Good Works Team,

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<v Speaker 1>one of eleven players in FBS football. Congratulations on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I'm honored to be on the All State

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<v Speaker 1>What's so cool about that is you get to see

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<v Speaker 1>that trophy every day, don't you? In the field as

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<v Speaker 1>because of Courtney Loves doing back in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know Cody Love and want to see once

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<v Speaker 5>I got nominated, once I got honored, You're a first

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<v Speaker 5>one to shoot me a test like that's what we

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<v Speaker 5>do at UK congrat good work teams, Let's go. So

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<v Speaker 5>it was honor just just getting an award, just being

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<v Speaker 5>just just showing the word that I'm blessed in honor

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<v Speaker 5>to have of good works.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like now every game that you play in

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<v Speaker 1>the national announcers bring up the fact that you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing so much work to help kids who were in

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes. Everybody knows your story. All the UK fans

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<v Speaker 1>know about how you lost your dad, you lost your coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a terrible injury. And I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm belittling that by just listing them, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's because you've handled it so brilliantly. And now you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a group that you've put together to try to

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<v Speaker 1>help kids your age, college age kids deal with stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Tell me about how that all came around.

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<v Speaker 5>It came along because I was hurting myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>once I lost my dad, once I lost my coach

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<v Speaker 5>and told me I said, I was destroyed inside. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know what else to do. You know, I needed help.

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<v Speaker 5>At the end of the day, I needed help. I

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<v Speaker 4>With losing.

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<v Speaker 5>Both peoples I loved and losing the game I play.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was hard to cope a lot. So actually

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<v Speaker 5>I needed help. I figure that I needed help, and

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<v Speaker 5>once I got help, it was okay. Once I got help,

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<v Speaker 5>it's time to help others because I knew I was struggling.

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<v Speaker 5>I knew when somebody lose somebody they loved it hurt

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<v Speaker 5>and once and once when I was hurting in school,

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<v Speaker 5>I stopped going to class. You know, I stop, stop

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<v Speaker 5>stop taking football serious, you know, cause I was hurt.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't want nobody else to go through I

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<v Speaker 1>You really get blindsided.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know your dad was murdered, your coach died suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>then ACL injury can happen, as you know, to any

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly you're forced to deal with that. That's just tough,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, most definitely it was. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 5>But definitely it was hard for me and my family

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<v Speaker 5>and the peoples around me because I affect a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people are with the energy I I give off

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<v Speaker 5>man the good the goods I give off to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>So and now you've got a group together. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're I know you're you're working on trying to

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<v Speaker 1>have a policy put in place at the university because

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<v Speaker 1>students such as yourself you talked about not going to class,

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<v Speaker 1>not taking practice. Seriously, You've got all kinds of support

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<v Speaker 1>with the football program. It's still difficult. But for your

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<v Speaker 1>run of the mill, everyday student who's dealing with bereavement,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're down so far, they could go into class,

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<v Speaker 1>they could flunk out, you know, which isn't fair, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And so now you're trying to help there, aren't you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sir, I actually started the last two weeks the

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<v Speaker 5>but I heard it was like nine students end up

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<v Speaker 5>coming in last yesterday. They have every Monday at for

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<v Speaker 5>thirty and NA people's game.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's it's growing. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait to come to to actually go to

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<v Speaker 5>the pallette this year. I haven't been this year because

417
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.319
<v Speaker 5>the season and everything. But I'm excited. I'm honored at

418
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<v Speaker 5>U can actually started something like this. It's it's I

419
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 5>knew a lot of people's on my team just lost

420
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<v Speaker 5>a parent and just lost a granny, so it's honored

421
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<v Speaker 5>to have a grieving program at you are Chikentidy.

422
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<v Speaker 1>Word of mouth. It's catching on right, Yeah's definitely. You

423
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 1>have always though, been summon to give back. Looking at

424
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<v Speaker 1>your bio, I mean backpacks for kids and different programs

425
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>like that, it just seems like that comes to you

426
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<v Speaker 1>second nature. Is that? Is that the case?

427
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<v Speaker 5>I'm in love with a person. You know, I'm a heart,

428
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<v Speaker 5>I'm once, I love, I love hard, and that's me.

429
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm a caring person. So I'm gonna open up to you.

430
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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna care for you and make sure you're okay

431
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<v Speaker 5>because I didn't have that one and so I'm just

432
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 5>making sure you okay.

433
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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, if I told somebody

434
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>about you and what you're doing, I said, oh, by

435
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the way, he's a linebacker in the Southeastern Conference. That's

436
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>quite the balancing act, isn't it. How do you balance

437
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that with football and being one of the best linebackers

438
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<v Speaker 1>in the conference.

439
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 5>Not that had you just got to be humble with it.

440
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm a humble guy. So once you humble,

441
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 5>everything just it's gonna come to you. So I'm just

442
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 5>a very humble guy, you know, keep God first and

443
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 5>everything else gonna come to me.

444
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to JJ Weaver about being a member of

445
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<v Speaker 1>the All State Good Works Team, now eligible for the

446
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Danny Warfel Trophy. Billy Miller's with us from All State.

447
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>But what would you like to add here?

448
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<v Speaker 6>No, I just I'm so proud of you know, and

449
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<v Speaker 6>I would add that everyone on behalf of All State

450
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 6>is so proud of these twenty two students and head

451
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 6>coach for making it being elected to the twenty twenty

452
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<v Speaker 6>four All State a FCA Good Works Team. Hand these

453
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<v Speaker 6>this this selection committee handpicked these students, at student athletes

454
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<v Speaker 6>and head coach from a record one hundred and seventy

455
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 6>eight nominees representing every corner of the country. So we're

456
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 6>so proud of all of them, including JJ Hare.

457
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Jj. You guys are coming off that big win over

458
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Old Miss, and I know people look at you as

459
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>a football player, but I think if they looked at

460
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 1>your biography as I did, and I knew this going in,

461
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you're a lot more, aren't you. You're a guy who

462
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.920
<v Speaker 1>plays football, You're not just a football player. And I

463
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 1>think these these programs you're part of that that proves that,

464
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

465
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, most definitely we go yeah, UK, we go thing

466
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<v Speaker 5>about four for forty you got four years, forty years off, so.

467
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 4>We take that serious at UK, so we more than

468
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<v Speaker 4>a football player.

469
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Most definitely tell me about it as well. The fifteen

470
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<v Speaker 1>for Freddie Foundation. You started gosh back in twenty fifteen.

471
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, fifteen for Freddy my grandfather. He under the cancer.

472
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 5>He beat a cancer for four years, then two o

473
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 5>fourteen he ended up having a stroke and he passed

474
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:06.559
<v Speaker 5>away from a stroke.

475
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 4>That was one of my first loss I ever felt.

476
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 5>And that was my first foundation I did for him,

477
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 5>for people who losing who have cancer, who are suffering

478
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 5>a cancer man, my mom, we did like I was

479
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 5>a sophomore in high school, junior year in high school,

480
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 5>so that's when we started. But it's not called fifteen

481
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 5>for thirty. The more called it perfect fit and I'm

482
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 5>getting the Nike deal. With Nike they end up giving

483
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, I have six fingers on my right hand,

484
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 5>so as a child, you know, I was getting bully

485
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 5>about it and everything, and nikeing up. I usually picked

486
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 5>five or five five fingers. They made me assist phenis glove.

487
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 5>I usually picked two pingis in one. So now they

488
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 5>gave me Osi fin gloved me and my mom came

489
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.119
<v Speaker 5>with the new logo the new foundation called the Perfect Fit.

490
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>And you talk to the other kids who have the

491
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>same situation, don't you.

492
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely like last year. I went to elementary school

493
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 5>Taste Week. Elementary talked to the kids two end up

494
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:08.799
<v Speaker 5>two kids having six fingers and it was amazing.

495
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, what are the odds of that? I wonder?

496
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Definitely gonna Stephanie was it was crazy.

497
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I know you're terribly proud to be a part of

498
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the All State Good Works Team, but that's not why

499
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you do this. As I said, you've been doing this

500
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff for a long time. You feel like

501
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>being a part of the All State Good Works Team

502
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>can can help encourage other athletes to give back a

503
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

504
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, most definitely. A lot of my teammates honored and

505
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 5>they want to help me. So it's an honor just

506
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 5>to be on an All State good Ers team. But

507
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.200
<v Speaker 5>the work I've been doing for over the years, you're

508
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 5>just the love I have for others. You know, I'm

509
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 5>just a caring person, so I'm always working on others,

510
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 5>working on making sure everybody else straight around me.

511
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 1>You were like this back at old More High School,

512
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>weren't you in Louisville.

513
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what it started from. It started from going

514
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 5>to More High School.

515
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

516
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 5>I was the first ever big time athlete to come

517
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 5>out of More High School. You know, so there's an

518
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 5>anemost definitely just to put on from the kids back

519
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 5>at More High School.

520
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, growing up in Louisville, as I did, we knew

521
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>More if it had a good basketball team. But yeah,

522
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 1>you didn't think much about football, did you. A lot

523
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of pride was that. Well, while I've got you, I

524
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>got to ask you about what it's been like since

525
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys, And of course I fly with the team,

526
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm in the back of the plane. You know.

527
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 1>You guys are are back on campus before I get

528
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to my car at the airport. But I'm wondering what

529
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>has it been like for you coming You've got a

530
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>little time off. We talked about that little rest, relaxation,

531
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 1>But tell me about what life has been like since

532
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>pulling off that upset man, Man, wonderful.

533
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, we needed that big one. You know, we

534
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 5>lost to South Carolina. That hurt us. You know, we

535
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 5>was in in dolphire Georgia, you know, and then DOLPHI

536
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 5>we old man.

537
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 4>So we got it.

538
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, we almost as I keep batting bounding every

539
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 5>other week. You know, our next our next opponent's vending

540
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 5>Beild and we're not gonna take vending Beild like it's

541
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 5>another SEC opponent.

542
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, SEC have the.

543
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 5>One of the best conference in the nation, So we

544
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 5>gotta look forward to keep fighting chopping chopping wood every year.

545
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 1>You're part of a defense that now really you guys

546
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 1>play fairly well against SoC Carolina, great against Georgia, great

547
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 1>against Dole Miss. It's becoming I think perhaps the identity

548
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of this Kentucky team and people across the country now

549
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 1>are seeing just how good your defense is. What is

550
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it like to be a part of that?

551
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Man, you know, I mean for six years and I

552
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 5>tell the guy, this is one of the best defense

553
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 5>I've been in a UK.

554
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 4>You know, the brothers is tight. You know, we battle

555
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 4>every day.

556
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 5>You know, we we argue like brothers, you know, so

557
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 5>it's once you argue each other.

558
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, he got my back off the field. So man,

559
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

560
00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 5>Ain't gonna lie love it, you know, I know they

561
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 5>got my back, so I can go to war with

562
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 5>these with these guys, you know, I know they're gonna

563
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.599
<v Speaker 5>stand on all ten for I mean, I'm gonna stay

564
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 5>all ten for them.

565
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 4>So it's a I love this team, this defense. I know.

566
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 4>I know we got the.

567
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 5>Chance to to upset a lot of teams this year.

568
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I know that when you were going through your toughest

569
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>times with your family members and your coach and your injury,

570
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>being a part of the team was your extended family.

571
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

572
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>And I got to think that with this work you're

573
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>doing now with a bereatman group on campus, you're trying

574
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to extend that kind of feeling like that that friendship

575
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that you know people can bond over over things like

576
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>this and and and handle their mourning their grief.

577
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Most definitely.

578
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I didn't know a lot of my

579
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 5>teammates lost a mom or dad, So that made us

580
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 5>even more closer.

581
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a. That's a that's a that's the goal.

582
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:57.759
<v Speaker 5>I have making more worldwide at university in Kentucky period.

583
00:33:57.799 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, I want to have a I want to

584
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 5>build me a house fut grieving for all for Yeah,

585
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 5>most thefit for the whole state of Kentucky. Anybody ages

586
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 5>ages from forty through you through thirteen, you know that's

587
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 5>the goal I want to have or even younger.

588
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 4>So that's me.

589
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I lost my dad when I was little, when

590
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 1>I was eight, and it just rocks your world. I

591
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>know that. But I know how important family can be.

592
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And and again, as I said, you didn't set out

593
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to win any awards, but it's all those fitting that

594
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you're part of the Good Works team and then the

595
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>running for the word For Trophy, And I would think

596
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a great help if you end up

597
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>winning the worf For Trophy. Just getting that message out

598
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 1>even more is going to mean a lot to you,

599
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

600
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Most definitely it's gonna You're gonna even put the ice

601
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 5>on the cake for me right there. I mean I

602
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.559
<v Speaker 5>can do a lot with that, just show the stale

603
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 5>can take you.

604
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 4>That's more than that. So most definitely.

605
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Showed a nation Billy. Is there anything else we need

606
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 1>to know?

607
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 6>No, I just tell fans, as you said, JJ's in

608
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 6>the running for the All State Warflo Trophy.

609
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 4>So go vote.

610
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 6>You can go vote at ESPN dot com slash all.

611
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>State sounds good, JJ and enjoy the time. I know

612
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>your guys are back at practicing, but you guys got

613
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to be walking a little taller I think these days.

614
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Right Yeah, just up and high right now. Most definitely.

615
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 1>That's Kentucky linebacker JJ Weaver, part of the All State

616
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Good Works team and now in the running for the

617
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Warfle Trophy. And we're back in just a minute here

618
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.079
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Mollon Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back.

619
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Thanks again to JJ Weaver for joining us. Coming up

620
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 1>and hour number two. Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, joins

621
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 1>us each and every Wednesday, as well as Weston Bureau

622
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Chief Gary Moore. A couple of other notes for you

623
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<v Speaker 1>before we hit the Braak. Diamonds Sports Group, which carries

624
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.639
<v Speaker 1>the local broadcasts of the Cincinnati Reds, says we're out

625
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>on all but one of the twelve Major League teams

626
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that now televises. Those other cities will either need to

627
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:17.079
<v Speaker 1>renegotiate new contracts with Diamond or find another option elsewhere.

628
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So diamond says we're good with the Braves, but now

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds, the Tigers, the Royals, the Los Angeles Angels,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins, Myke Cardinals, and the Tampa Bay Rays are

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<v Speaker 1>without a broadcast partner. They may end up back with Diamond,

632
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<v Speaker 1>but as of right now they're out and the Reds

633
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<v Speaker 1>and those other teams likely if they stay with them,

634
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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to take less money, and nobody wants that

635
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 1>somebody will have them, But now it is up in

636
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<v Speaker 1>the air. Kentucky fans who keep track of former Wildcats,

637
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.199
<v Speaker 1>you might know that Kevin Knox spent the last season

638
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 1>for the most part in the G League with the

639
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Rip City Remix and now he has signed with the Warriors.

640
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Got to make the squad, but he averaged last year

641
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty two and a half points, almost nine rebounds, and

642
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>almost three assists per game. He's only twenty five years old,

643
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>still got a lot of good basketball ahead of him,

644
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but he has not had the career, of course, that

645
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>he hoped and that others had predicted for him. And again,

646
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 1>maybe he should have stayed another year. But Kevin Knox,

647
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 1>now with a shot at making the Golden State Warriors,

648
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 1>saw an interesting note on the interweb about Shannon Sharp,

649
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>who's now Talking Head, used to be a great receiver

650
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, and he said when he had just

651
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>signed with the Ravens. He had some money to play

652
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 1>around with, and he told his financial guy, I would

653
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>like to buy three hundred thousand dollars worth of Google stock.

654
00:37:55.360 --> 00:38:00.079
<v Speaker 1>And his financial guy said, Nope, it's overpriced, don't do it.

655
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 1>It's worth more than three trillion now. And Sharp was

656
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 1>talking to Mark Cuban about it. He said, I would

657
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<v Speaker 1>have been a billionaire with you about that. It wasn't

658
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>quite the same, but it reminds me of when Adolph

659
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Rupp got some advice from Ty Cobb about stock and

660
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Rubb was like, no, I don't think so. Turned out

661
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to be Coca Cola before we hit the brake. I

662
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<v Speaker 1>gotta share this with you. It's the call from the

663
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Alabama Georgia game via the Japan Network. They were calling

664
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<v Speaker 1>the game. Don't know if they were there, did it

665
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>off TV, but here it is. That guy must have

666
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<v Speaker 1>had a bet on the game. I remember two is

667
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<v Speaker 1>next with Sean Woods and Gary Moore A on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty w A p. Welcome back to the Big Blue

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00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and Cider join us down our celebrity hotline as he

670
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<v Speaker 1>does each and every Wednesday. Is the Unforgettable Guard. Sean Woods,

671
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<v Speaker 1>a Jersey hangs in the rafters of rup coach. Before

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<v Speaker 1>I get to talking about Kentucky basketball and basketball in general,

673
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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts, first of all, in the passing of Pete Rose,

674
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<v Speaker 1>because you and I have talked baseball before, and you

675
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>liked playing baseball, and you grew up in Central Indiana,

676
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if it's still REDG country, but

677
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 1>for the longest time, Indianapolis was a Red Triple A affiliate.

678
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah in the UH Indian the Indians too, Yeah, not

679
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 7>Indians Montreal, Uh yeah, the Indianapolis Indians was the was

680
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<v Speaker 7>the minor league for the UH. I couldn't remember, but

681
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 7>I know, uh yes, changed a lot. And then also

682
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 7>I grew up in Gary. I was we were my

683
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 7>little league team, Brunswick Little League was two games away

684
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<v Speaker 7>from making a Little league wor.

685
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<v Speaker 1>Up there though, Yeah, no kidding, Wow.

686
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So I've had a you know, major experience in

687
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 8>baseball and then you know, watching you know, pros and

688
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 8>Major League all my life, and you know, how can

689
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 8>you not watch Pete Rose, who was the epitome of

690
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 8>what hard work and over achievement was all about. And

691
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 8>as a kid, you know, especially you know, there was

692
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<v Speaker 8>no social media back then about people's personal lives and

693
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 8>things like that. You know, growing up knowing what we knew,

694
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 8>he was as pure as ivory Snow, you know what

695
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm saying. You know, as far as his work ethic,

696
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 8>you know, gave one hundred and ten percent, Charlie Hustle,

697
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.519
<v Speaker 8>the whole nine yards. But you know, like everyone else,

698
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, everybody has a life, and you know, I

699
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 8>didn't got to a point in my life where you know,

700
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 8>it's not about judging people anymore, you know, and I

701
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 8>think that you know, whatever happened, you know with his

702
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 8>gambling and betting on baseball, did he make a major mistake? Yeah,

703
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 8>but what he did on the baseball field as a

704
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 8>player cannot be denied. And there's no you can't talk

705
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 8>about baseball and have a Hall of Fame. I don't

706
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<v Speaker 8>care without Pete Rose being in there. You know, you

707
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 8>got I wasn't around when Ty Cobb was around, But man,

708
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.719
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure Ty Cobb was more of a tyrant thing

709
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 8>than Pete Rose was. Looking at a documentaries and things

710
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 8>like that, and you know, some people who made more

711
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.239
<v Speaker 8>mistakes you look at, you know, these other players with

712
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 8>drug problems and domestic violence situations, and they still got in.

713
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<v Speaker 8>You know, he made him at a mistake, but no

714
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 8>one proved that he was betting on the Reds when

715
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 8>he was the manager. But I don't think that that

716
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 8>keeps him from being in the Hall of Fame because

717
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 8>the Hall of Fame is not about your personal life.

718
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 8>The Hall of Fame is but you can get in

719
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 8>that particular sport while you were playing, and that's what

720
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<v Speaker 8>you got to be.

721
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<v Speaker 4>You know, uh.

722
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<v Speaker 8>Looked upon as you know, yeah, and he did that.

723
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.960
<v Speaker 8>You know, no one hit you know, he's the best

724
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 8>hitter in the history of baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>The qualities have made him a great player, I mean

726
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>by sheer force of his will, because when he first

727
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>came up, he was kind of a pudgy, unathletic guy.

728
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<v Speaker 1>Although I don't know how you could describe him as

729
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>unathletic looking at the achievements that he that he had,

730
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>but like the hard work, the work ethic, you know.

731
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<v Speaker 1>And when they first called him Charlie Hustle, some of

732
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<v Speaker 1>the players are kind of making fun of them. They

733
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>had to swallow their words because Hustle is what made

734
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>him one of the greatest ever. And I know, a

735
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<v Speaker 1>guy like you, even though you coach a different sport.

736
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>You got to love that when you see that in

737
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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, no matter what the sport.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, he's a winner. You know, who doesn't want to

739
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 8>coach that? That's right, you know, he's a winner. You

740
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 8>know what you're going to get day in and day out,

741
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 8>and you want to be able to count on players,

742
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 8>you know, as a coach and every day I know

743
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 8>their manager whoever he was at the particular time, could

744
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 8>knew when he was going to get out of Pete Rose. Yeah,

745
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.079
<v Speaker 8>you know, he was the most consistent baseball player maybe

746
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 8>in the history of baseball.

747
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>It's been really interesting for me partnering with Doug Flynn

748
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>on UK baseball games and hearing the Pete stories on

749
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and off the field. You know, Pete introduced Doug. Do

750
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>was to Doug's wife. They've been married for more than

751
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>forty years. Pete was the one who broke the news

752
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to Doug about Doug being traded to the Mets, you know,

753
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 1>and Doug was one of the guys I'm not going

754
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 1>to repeat the word that Sparky Anderson used, guys who

755
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>were not in the starting lineup, but you know the

756
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>guys who were, they were penciled in every day, and

757
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>yet the guys on the bench were held at the

758
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>same standards that Pete Rose held himself to and his

759
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>other teammates. So, like I said, and like you said,

760
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what coach wouldn't want to coach a guy like that?

761
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Let me shift gears over there.

762
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 8>You're talking about Doug Flynn. Now, you know what I'm saying.

763
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 8>It doesn't get it any better than him, you know,

764
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.719
<v Speaker 8>as far as morals and morality and doing the right thing.

765
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 8>And for him to look up to a guy like

766
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.239
<v Speaker 8>Pete Rose and not have too many negative things to say,

767
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 8>come on, that speaks volumes. You know what I'm saying.

768
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 1>And I think the.

769
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<v Speaker 8>World at Dug Flinn. I have so much respect for

770
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 8>Doug Flynn and he if he okays your character, then

771
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 8>you're pretty good.

772
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

773
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 8>And you know, and Pete Rose, all kudos from Doug Flynn.

774
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 8>And from that standpoint behind the world. Can he be

775
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 8>out of out of baseball?

776
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Well, Dougs conflicted about that, turno.

777
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Doug has conflicted. Dougs conflicted about that too. But I

778
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>think ultimately what you say is right.

779
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, betting on baseball, I get that. Yeah,

780
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 8>but you know, time heals all things. Let time he'll

781
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 8>you know what I mean, pete rose and I just

782
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 8>don't get that they didn't Let time he'll pee rose situation.

783
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Let me shift you over to Kentucky football and I

784
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 1>know that again we've talked about how much of a

785
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.320
<v Speaker 1>football fan you are. What was it like for you

786
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Saturday watching and I hope you listen to the radio

787
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 1>as well, watching your beloved Wildcats pull off that upset?

788
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 8>What did I tell you the week before? And he

789
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 8>was like, you know, should they pack it in? This?

790
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 4>And that?

791
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 8>So on and so forth. You know, people give in

792
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 8>Stuits a hard time. You know, it's move on to

793
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 8>the next one, you know. So you had an opportunity

794
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 8>to beat the number one team in the conference. You

795
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.920
<v Speaker 8>were right there. What is so amazing about Stoops and

796
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 8>his staff is these guys believe in them. They no

797
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 8>matter what their record is, They're coming to work every

798
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 8>single day. They giving it everything they got. And when

799
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 8>you can compete like that every single day, it gives

800
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 8>you a chance. And in sports, that's all you want

801
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 8>is a chance. And you know I judge coaches on

802
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 8>that more so than wins and losses, because you know,

803
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 8>you only going to be as good as your players.

804
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 8>You can be the best motivator known and man, you

805
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 8>can have all the ex'es and oo's, but if your

806
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 8>Jim and Joe's don't line up, you have no shot.

807
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 8>And He's continued to keep these guys motivated, hungry, they

808
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 8>still have a vision. And you lose to Georgia, you

809
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 8>know what I'm saying. Had them beat that was the

810
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 8>biggest morale builders that they could have had. And the

811
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 8>next opponent that they were playing was in trouble and

812
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 8>it showed, you know, you got the number one defense.

813
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 8>I think they're the best defense in America myself, you know,

814
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 8>because you don't hold these high powered offenses under twenty

815
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 8>points or twenty one points under. You know, that's given

816
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 8>you a chance. And you know they always say that,

817
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 8>you know, offense brings you know, people, puts people in

818
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 8>the stands. The defense wins championships. Well, hey, this defense

819
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 8>may carry them all the way to where they're trying

820
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 8>to go to a to a bowl. Deal because no

821
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 8>one gave after they lost to South Carolina, no one

822
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 8>gave them a shot except to beat Vanderbilt. And look

823
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 8>at them right now, every team in the SEC is

824
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 8>scared to play them because you know, you got to

825
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 8>bring your pail head, you know what I'm saying every possession.

826
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I wonder I don't know if you've ever had any

827
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 1>interaction with Vince Marrow, but as a professional coach, I'm

828
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 1>wondering your thoughts on what Vince said about the fact

829
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 1>that after the South Carolina lost Stoops not only had

830
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to kind of coach up the players, but he had

831
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 1>to coach up the coaches and kind of got the

832
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>coaches reinvested in and re excited about what was going on.

833
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really interesting and it and it worked.

834
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<v Speaker 8>Well. You know what, that's your job as a coach.

835
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 8>You got to coach everybody, you know, and and if

836
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.519
<v Speaker 8>football is a little bit different than basketball, because head coach,

837
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 8>don't you know you can't be hands on or both

838
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 8>both ends of the I mean both sides of the ball. Yeah,

839
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, but you can motivate these guys to do

840
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 8>their job and to stay enthusiastic. Stay enthusiastic, because if

841
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 8>your coaches are coming out of that meeting room or there,

842
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 8>or the players are going into the meeting room and

843
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:48.679
<v Speaker 8>their coaches attitude is, you know, whatever it is, everybody

844
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 8>feeds on that, and when you lose, everybody's looking for misery.

845
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 8>Everyone they're looking at each other to see how each

846
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 8>other is going to respond. And that's how to overcome

847
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.599
<v Speaker 8>and for stoops to overcome that, your whole building, not

848
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 8>just your players, but your coaches are down. You know,

849
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 8>do you know how quick you can lose your team

850
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 8>just because of that? Yeah, he could have lost his

851
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 8>team two weeks ago. And the fact that he's got

852
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 8>everybody on board. He's probably done the best coaching job

853
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 8>in America right now and they're not underseated just because

854
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 8>of the circumstances.

855
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Shawn Woods is my guest, the Unforgettable Guard. We'll come

856
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more with Sean on the other side

857
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 1>of the break here on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back.

858
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.920
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Unforgettable Guard Shawn Woods. And before I

859
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>ask about the UK's Pro Day and madness coming up,

860
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you said something before the break that I've never heard before,

861
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious. She said, when things are going bad,

862
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody looks for people look for misery. What do you

863
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 1>mean by that?

864
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 8>Because you're looking for someone that you're looking for here

865
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:59.400
<v Speaker 8>we go. You know what I mean, isn't worth anymore? Yeah,

866
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 8>you know in an athlete. Today's athlete are so impressed

867
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 8>with social media. They read all that stuff. You can't

868
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 8>you can't hide it anymore. So kids see and hear

869
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 8>the negativity that goes on with a coach, and sometimes

870
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 8>a kid can lose respect. Your parents get involved. You know,

871
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 8>the coach may not have played you as much, so

872
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.920
<v Speaker 8>you got that I told you so attitude or waiting

873
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.840
<v Speaker 8>for the next guy to fail, you know, and that

874
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 8>that that just infest into your camp and it becomes

875
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 8>a negative sea that you can't you know, and it's

876
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 8>like a fire that you can't stop. And for him

877
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:41.039
<v Speaker 8>to stop that within six days.

878
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It is miraculous interesting.

879
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 8>You know, I was shocked that people were talking down

880
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 8>on him early. This is Kentucky. We you know what

881
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.840
<v Speaker 8>I'm saying. Whoever decided the ads and the president decided

882
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 8>to bring in all these big twelve schools and things

883
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.840
<v Speaker 8>like that to the SEC and make it more competitive,

884
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 8>you just made it more harder for yourself, so you

885
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 8>didn't give your own program a chance, you know what

886
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 8>I'm saying. So now this man has showed you that

887
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 8>even though we are Kentucky, we still we can still

888
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:18.599
<v Speaker 8>compete with the best, which they are speaks volumes. You know,

889
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 8>sometimes you can't fire a coaches. You can't get down

890
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 8>on the coach because of his record. You got to

891
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 8>understand the circumstances, and his circumstances are way tougher than

892
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 8>Georgia Alabama. You know, Texas, you understand what I'm saying. Yeah,

893
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 8>from that dead point, you're playing at a high level,

894
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 8>just as high as any team in the league right now,

895
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 8>even though you lost by too. You know, if Alabama

896
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 8>and Georgia play tomorrow, somebody's gonna lose, right, But if

897
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 8>Georgia beats Alabama twenty one to twenty three, does that

898
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 8>make Alabama a subpar SEC school?

899
00:51:59.320 --> 00:51:59.559
<v Speaker 1>No?

900
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 8>And for Kentucky to be in that mix them be

901
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 8>able to compete and give give themselves a chance to

902
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 8>win every Saturday in the SEC. Oh my gosh, it's

903
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 8>not traditionally to a top SEC school.

904
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Come on, well, let me shift over to basketball in

905
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the time we have remaining UK Pro Day coming up Monday.

906
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Madness is on the way. We all know about the

907
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>value of madness when it comes to recruiting and being

908
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a window into Kentucky basketball. But how do you feel

909
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 1>about Pro Day. That's something cali Perry created. For one thing,

910
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>it kind of gave him more control over the pro scouts,

911
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 1>but it was also a way to further celebrate UK basketball.

912
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>It was something innovative. Whatever you felt about Cali Perry,

913
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 1>he's an innovator and this was just another way to

914
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>bring the spotlight back to election and didn't have it

915
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>when you were playing, of course, But what are your

916
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that today?

917
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 8>I thought, like you said, and Cal was was an innovator.

918
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 8>You know a lot of teams, a lot of schools

919
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 8>start to do what he was doing, and like, like

920
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 8>now it's magnetized even more. Every kid thinks they're pro.

921
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 8>Every kid wants to be a pro, so they're gonna

922
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 8>go to the spot to where there their chances of

923
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 8>becoming a pro are much greater. Just think about it

924
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 8>for a minute. Cal's got so many guys in the

925
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.920
<v Speaker 8>NBA right now and are playing at a high level.

926
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 8>Just think of how many guys didn't even didn't even

927
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 8>average double figures while they're here at Kentucky. You know,

928
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 8>that's huge and the only way they could do that

929
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.800
<v Speaker 8>is get these pro scouts in here to see the

930
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.440
<v Speaker 8>real them because in the game there's only so many shots.

931
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 8>You know, that doesn't mean if that kid can't be

932
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.599
<v Speaker 8>a pro because he's not. He's on the shoot two

933
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 8>three times a game. So Cal brought, you know, invited

934
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 8>the pros into his camp to see the real person,

935
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 8>that the real player that he had, because you know,

936
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 8>come game time, that's the same kid that everybody's high on.

937
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 4>One.

938
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.760
<v Speaker 8>You know, that may be a late first round pick

939
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 8>or he's a second round pick, may only played seven

940
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 8>minutes a game or ten minutes a game. So from

941
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 8>that standpoint, he was a hit and two. From a

942
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:21.880
<v Speaker 8>recruiting standpoint, doesn't want to practice the front of pro.

943
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Goodness?

944
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 8>You know what I'm saying. Who doesn't want to practice?

945
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.400
<v Speaker 8>And I thought last year there was only one guy

946
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 8>that had hurt because it just messed him up mentally.

947
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Was justin Newicks, Yeah, no question, justin.

948
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 8>Thatwi was was the deal up until pro up until

949
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 8>pro day. Pro Day. I was there. He didn't play well,

950
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 8>couldn't make a shot, and and he carried he thought

951
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 8>that that was his one chance to play against pro

952
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 8>I've been playing in front of the pros, and he

953
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 8>thought he messed up, and you know, for him to

954
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.880
<v Speaker 8>go through what he went through, and and still, you know,

955
00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 8>because he was so touted coming out of high school

956
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 8>that he was a can't miss that even though he

957
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.519
<v Speaker 8>had a subpart year, it still gave him an opportunity

958
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.559
<v Speaker 8>to get drafted because of what he played for cal

959
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 8>and he played at Kentucky and the tradition of guys

960
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 8>that don't do as well from a percentage standpoint, the

961
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 8>odds of them doing well in the NBA are pretty

962
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 8>good compared to some other guys.

963
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>The Kentucky effect.

964
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 8>The Kentucky effect. If he's anywhere else, I don't think

965
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 8>he gets drafted like he did.

966
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 1>He's in a position that it No, you're absolutely right,

967
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and for better or worse, it's a Kentucky effect, and

968
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.679
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes it is for the better. And like you said,

969
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.079
<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't want to play in front of scouts? I

970
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>mean scouts go everywhere, you know that, but yeah, but

971
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to have an army of scouts and to have it nationally.

972
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's like you had basketball camp in high school

973
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 8>and you're playing in front of thousands of you know,

974
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:04.159
<v Speaker 8>hundreds of of college scouts and coaches. It's the same situation.

975
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, Yeah, those summer events like an AU.

976
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 8>Tournament that's like an AAU basketball camp or whatever, five

977
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 8>star BC Nike camp. That's what it feels like. Yeah,

978
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 8>when you playing in front of these scouts like that,

979
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 8>because it's an evaluation that you're getting that's magnetized. People

980
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 8>just dream of that. So why am I not going

981
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 8>to a touch Please recruit in Kentucky because I want

982
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 8>to play in front of this type of situation. They

983
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:32.599
<v Speaker 8>have the opportunity to uh to to to you know better,

984
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.119
<v Speaker 8>my family and for still a dream of playing at

985
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 8>the NBA.

986
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 1>Just give me a chance and put me in front

987
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 1>of those scouts and I'll show you exactly.

988
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.599
<v Speaker 8>They're not coming to more Head, they ain't coming to

989
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 8>this city state. Maybe a few of them, few, you know,

990
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 8>the NBA team was represented at cows Hill.

991
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Every NBA team sometimes more than once. Yes, yes, because

992
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>there are scouts and then there are checkers. The same

993
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>thing in baseball. I'm scouting a kid, Why don't you

994
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>go look at him and tell me if what I

995
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 1>saw was right. So, yeah, you're going to get a scout,

996
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe an assistant coach at GM maybe a head coach.

997
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So that just swells the ranks, doesn't it.

998
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And then you know people knew that I was

999
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:19.599
<v Speaker 8>going to practice. Every day, I would get calls from

1000
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 8>scout saying, tell me what he's looking like right there?

1001
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 8>Really tell me this? Yeah?

1002
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

1003
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:27.679
<v Speaker 8>Well, so you know they do their homework and they'll

1004
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:29.800
<v Speaker 8>continue to call and check in. You know that they

1005
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.800
<v Speaker 8>can't make it in, They're gonna call somebody who they respect,

1006
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, and you know it's it's bigger than what

1007
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:36.840
<v Speaker 8>you think.

1008
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, it happens on Monday the seventh, and I'll actually

1009
00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 1>be on the TV side with Jack Gibbons and hope

1010
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to see their coach. Thanks as always, all right, Dick,

1011
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I'll be there.

1012
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 8>I'll see you on Monday.

1013
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Up next, West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore right here

1014
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 1>on six thirty Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider.

1015
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 1>It is Wednesday. That means we look to the west,

1016
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>look to our West n Bureau Chief Gary Moore at

1017
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 1>the other end of I sixty four. The word sports

1018
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.239
<v Speaker 1>for a long time for us on the West coast

1019
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>for KAILA West Radio, but now he's back in La

1020
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Louisville area and often comes to us with so much

1021
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 1>on his mind.

1022
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 9>Two guys and a six pack, you and me and

1023
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 9>six swigs as we say, And Dick, I just want

1024
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 9>to preface this by saying that I had a very

1025
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 9>unforgettable moment with Pete Rose at Dodger Stadium before he

1026
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.079
<v Speaker 9>was ever banned, although it was that same summer now,

1027
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 9>And I'll go into that on our last swig here.

1028
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, because I think you'll you'll enjoy this.

1029
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 9>But our first swig here kick things off. Let me

1030
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:36.760
<v Speaker 9>just say, because I haven't had a chance to talk

1031
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.840
<v Speaker 9>to you about it yet, Mark Stoops has guts. Say

1032
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.760
<v Speaker 9>it again, Mark Stoops has guts. And because Mark Stoopens

1033
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 9>has guts, UK football and Big Blue Nation is still

1034
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 9>reveling in glory. Fourth and seven, we know the whole state.

1035
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.559
<v Speaker 9>This is like the greatest This is the greatest game

1036
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 9>of Stoops's career. I think fourth and seven, four minutes,

1037
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.480
<v Speaker 9>four seconds to play from their own twenty, and they

1038
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 9>go for it. Dick, normally, as Dennis Miller once said,

1039
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:07.760
<v Speaker 9>you only see balls that big chasing Indiana Jones. Okay,

1040
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 9>clearly a game plan from Brad and Bush, DC and

1041
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.000
<v Speaker 9>OC that worked. A surgical perfection and it couldn't happen

1042
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:20.159
<v Speaker 9>against a better coach because in La Dick we had

1043
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 9>to put up with some of Kiffin's crap.

1044
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, on a.

1045
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 9>Daily basis just a real pain in the rear end.

1046
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 9>So good for them. Now the Cats get one of well,

1047
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:31.920
<v Speaker 9>the first of two bye weeks this season. They return

1048
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 9>home to Vandy a week from Saturday. So I ask you,

1049
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 9>between now and then, besides everybody getting arrest from some

1050
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 9>already intense SEC games, who needs to heal up and

1051
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:42.440
<v Speaker 9>what has to happen?

1052
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they would love to get Chip train

1053
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>them back eventually, you know, the guy with the running back.

1054
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>They brought in to key their offense, at least their

1055
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.199
<v Speaker 1>ground attack, and yet they've done pretty well without them.

1056
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>All all hail let me sum will karn Bay. But man,

1057
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a couple of freshmen, especially Willcox, just as Jeff Pacrosse's

1058
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.960
<v Speaker 1>runs angry. You know he didn't create that, but he

1059
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>applies it to him, And boy, what a job they did.

1060
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 1>That's to me Gary, And there were so many things

1061
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:14.639
<v Speaker 1>to be impressed about. Is what impressed me the most

1062
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.440
<v Speaker 1>about Kentucky is the way ground out the offense and

1063
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>forced ole miss to play defense for longer stretches than

1064
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it has all season, control the pace of the game.

1065
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think when they can get linemen healthy again,

1066
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 1>they'll be even better at it. And did Maxwell Harriston

1067
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>back right?

1068
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.320
<v Speaker 9>And when you can control the game for forty minutes

1069
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.000
<v Speaker 9>oh man out of sixty?

1070
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you got.

1071
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.400
<v Speaker 9>A good chance of winning. So our second swig in

1072
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 9>the six pack Cats have Saturday offense? Do my Hilltoppers

1073
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:47.159
<v Speaker 9>who dropped a winnable game at Boston College, Like some

1074
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 9>of the receivers dropped wide open passes, especially in that

1075
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.840
<v Speaker 9>fourth quarter when they could have well, it probably cost

1076
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 9>him the game, to be honest with you. And by

1077
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 9>the way, I think that's a very underemphasized stat in

1078
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 9>both college and in the pros dropped passes. You know

1079
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 9>it being a Packers fan, I think, And well it's

1080
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 9>not under emphasized for Saquon Barkley this season. But anyway,

1081
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:11.159
<v Speaker 9>we go on number twenty two, Louisville back home after

1082
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 9>basically beating themselves up at South ben and the Notre

1083
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.400
<v Speaker 9>Dame loss, they'll face four to one SMU Mustangs. The

1084
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 9>Mustang's latest to abuse and degrade Florida State forty two

1085
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:23.519
<v Speaker 9>to sixteen cards had better play their a game. This

1086
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 9>could be some sort of a trap game. Their seven

1087
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 9>point favorite out at the stadium on Saturday. Any other

1088
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:31.480
<v Speaker 9>games looked like fun? Well, we got number nine Missoo

1089
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 9>at number twenty five Texas A and m Aggie's a

1090
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:38.159
<v Speaker 9>two point favorite. Number twelve Old Mess at South Carolina

1091
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.400
<v Speaker 9>Rebels a nine and a half point favorite.

1092
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:40.639
<v Speaker 4>That one.

1093
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 9>Number one Bama at Vandy probably not a trap game.

1094
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 9>Number twenty three Indiana at Northwestern possibly a trap game,

1095
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.559
<v Speaker 9>but I think the Hoosiers will win. And dick two

1096
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 9>ridiculous examples of expanding conferences for the money whores that

1097
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 9>are running them. For example, UCLA flying four thousand, five

1098
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 9>hundred miles round trip to get their brewin butts blistered

1099
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 9>at number seven Penn State a twenty eight point favorite.

1100
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 9>But wait, Miami says, hold on to our Gatorade. Number

1101
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 9>eight Hurricanes flying five thousand, one hundred and seventy six

1102
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:17.159
<v Speaker 9>miles from Miami to Berkeley to play cal where you

1103
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 9>can see the Pacific Ocean from the Berkeley campus while

1104
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 9>you're playing an Atlantic Coast Conference game? Am I not

1105
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 9>the only one shaking his head in this.

1106
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:30.199
<v Speaker 1>You know what's gonna happen here, don't you? What's that?

1107
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 1>This is all going to wear down on these athletes

1108
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:39.199
<v Speaker 1>and coaches will begin to complain yep, and administrators will

1109
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 1>begin to see the fact that, hey, this isn't working

1110
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:47.239
<v Speaker 1>very well when dopes like you and I saw it

1111
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, what are you thinking? And again, it's

1112
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 1>not just the football teams only. It's exacerbated by the

1113
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>size of the travel party. And as you know, I

1114
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.840
<v Speaker 1>travel with UK and by the way, the team that

1115
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 1>flies into Penn State, no matter who it is, I'll

1116
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you there's a bus ride waiting for him, because

1117
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 1>what airport near that university is big enough for one

1118
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of those jumbo jetliners. Yeah, not that it matters. After

1119
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you've already flown across the country. What's another hour bus ride,

1120
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, with your knees in your chest. So, oh,

1121
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this is stupid.

1122
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 9>Something's going to have to happen. We'll address that, I

1123
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.840
<v Speaker 9>think a little bit later on. Oh yeah, here our

1124
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:30.519
<v Speaker 9>third swig and the six packs. Let's go on to

1125
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:33.760
<v Speaker 9>the NFL, both here and in the mother country this

1126
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.519
<v Speaker 9>weekend Dick Tomorrow Night, Thursday Night Football three and one

1127
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 9>Tampa Bay at number two at the two and two

1128
01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 9>Atlanta Falcons. That's going to be on Amazon at eight

1129
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 9>to fifteen Falcons a point and a half favorite. Early

1130
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:48.679
<v Speaker 9>Sunday morning, I know you'll be up at nine thirty

1131
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.000
<v Speaker 9>with a pine of London Pride from London Town Tottenham's

1132
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 9>Hot Spurs Stadium. Two and two Jets, who look beyond

1133
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 9>awful against Denver, face the four and oh Vikings, who

1134
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 9>looked somewhat decent against your Packers. They're at the Lambo

1135
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 9>over the weekend. Vikings are only two and a half

1136
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.079
<v Speaker 9>point favorite, though in that game. Must see games on Sunday, well,

1137
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 9>I think the big one up I seventy five Ravens

1138
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:12.559
<v Speaker 9>two and a half point favorites at the Bengals.

1139
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 1>That's at one o'clock.

1140
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 9>You also get at one o'clock in Houston the Bills

1141
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 9>and the Texans. Your Packers out West my old stomping

1142
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.519
<v Speaker 9>grounds against the Rams. Packers a three and a half

1143
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 9>point favorite, and then you got Dallas and Pittsburgh, reminding

1144
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 9>me of Super Bowls. I always hated Sunday night.

1145
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night.

1146
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 9>Only one game that's the Saints and the Chiefs. So

1147
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.760
<v Speaker 9>I ask you what happens if the Bengals lose to

1148
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 9>the Ravens on Sunday.

1149
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they can pack it in because it's

1150
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 1>hard enough to come back from oh and two then three,

1151
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 1>they finally get a win, but it's so hard to

1152
01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:50.400
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs this year playoffs. But I think it

1153
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.199
<v Speaker 1>also underscores, you know's what's wrong with the Bengals. You know,

1154
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they ease their way into a season and make it

1155
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.679
<v Speaker 1>difficult on themselves and in the pass. Their defense really,

1156
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>despite having Chase and Burrow, has been the calling card

1157
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's not been up up to par lately. So

1158
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:10.719
<v Speaker 1>if the Rams can score on them, they're in trouble

1159
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year.

1160
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 9>Fourth Swig and the six Pack last night, two more

1161
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 9>games in the w NBA Semifinals and two more non

1162
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 9>sellouts in New York and Minneapolis. Why Well, mainly because

1163
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.559
<v Speaker 9>the Taylor Swift of basketball Caitland Clark ain't playing. That's

1164
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.360
<v Speaker 9>one reason. But to be fair, the TV ratings for

1165
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.760
<v Speaker 9>the first two semis on Sunday afternoon up against the

1166
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:33.559
<v Speaker 9>NFL were pretty decent. In fact, they were a massive

1167
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:36.480
<v Speaker 9>improvement over the same window from last year by about

1168
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:41.079
<v Speaker 9>five times Sunday's New York Vegas Game one had nine

1169
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.119
<v Speaker 9>hundred and twenty nine thousand viewers. That's more than all

1170
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:47.639
<v Speaker 9>four of last year's Finals games. Maybe that's a combination

1171
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 9>of the Caitlin effect and the Olympics, but there's plenty

1172
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.840
<v Speaker 9>of seats still available at both of those arenas. Brooklyn

1173
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.119
<v Speaker 9>at Barclay Center seats about nineteen thousand. They've had just

1174
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 9>over fourteen thousand for the two games, even worse at

1175
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 9>Target Center in Minneapolis, less than eighty eight hundred at

1176
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 9>both games for nineteen thousand plus arena. Now, I haven't

1177
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:10.639
<v Speaker 9>seen the overnight ratings from Tuesdays games, but after Minnesota

1178
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.280
<v Speaker 9>and Connecticut opened their Game two missing their combined fourteen

1179
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 9>first shots, no, Caitlin Clark, I asked, why would you

1180
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:22.639
<v Speaker 9>want to see any more of the WNBA, especially those two?

1181
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kaitlin Clark. Clearly, it's like Debbie Antonelli calls it clarkonomics.

1182
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.079
<v Speaker 1>It's so simple to see for people to still dig in,

1183
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, against the notion that this skinny kid from

1184
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Iowa could have that kind of an effect. But again,

1185
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 1>between Kaylen Clark Asia Wilson, it's easy to draw that

1186
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 1>parallel between them and bird Magic, who saved the NBA.

1187
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying these people are saving the WNBA,

1188
01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but they're giving it a much needed infusion of interest

1189
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and excitement and Paul play, which it has to be

1190
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 1>that way. I mean, you're not gonna do all that

1191
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 1>with bells and whistles. You've got to be able to play.

1192
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And both of those kids can play incredibly well, and

1193
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:11.639
<v Speaker 1>there's so much fun to watch.

1194
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.719
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I agree, Fit Swig. Let's talk Major League. I

1195
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 9>love October baseball. I know you do too, even these

1196
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:20.079
<v Speaker 9>wild card games like the four we got today in

1197
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 9>the night. That's the best two out of three. Of course,

1198
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.199
<v Speaker 9>division series begin on Saturday, best three out of five

1199
01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.880
<v Speaker 9>for that. But the big baseball news for me, along

1200
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:31.320
<v Speaker 9>with the games, big middle finger to Nike, not once,

1201
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 9>but twice. First, MLB announced that Nike will be going

1202
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 9>back to the original uniform material before this disastrous sweat

1203
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.639
<v Speaker 9>inducing vapor premier junk that they're wearing still wearing, and

1204
01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:47.480
<v Speaker 9>introduce this season and larger letterings so you can actually

1205
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.639
<v Speaker 9>see the names in the back, plus custom tapered pants

1206
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 9>that they stop.

1207
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 4>Doing this season.

1208
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 9>Hey look good, play good, right, and then finally, what

1209
01:07:57.599 --> 01:07:59.320
<v Speaker 9>you and I have been harping about for years now,

1210
01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 9>those nausea All Star Game costume pajamas that players have

1211
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 9>had to wear. MLB said, hey, even we can't stomach

1212
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 9>these things, these rags anymore. So MLB came to their senses,

1213
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.280
<v Speaker 9>and all the All Stars from here on out, like

1214
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.039
<v Speaker 9>they used to do proudly from the thirties into twenty nineteen,

1215
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:20.000
<v Speaker 9>will wear their primary home uniforms in the Midsummer Classic.

1216
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:21.920
<v Speaker 9>Can I get a Hallelujah?

1217
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I read some place where it said major League Baseball

1218
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 1>listen to his fans, and I really wonder was their

1219
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 1>formal holding. Was there a survey? But my response to

1220
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that is you didn't even need one. I mean, come on.

1221
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:40.199
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm afraid Gary, is that the merch numbers reflected.

1222
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And I say that because they're making these moves based

1223
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 1>on merch numbers, there are more stupid moves coming up

1224
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in the future, you know. And I will tell you this.

1225
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 1>In my travels this summer, and I flew three or

1226
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 1>four places. I saw one kid, one wearing a jersey

1227
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it was at the College World Series wearing

1228
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 1>one of those stupid All Star Game replica jerseys. Saw

1229
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hats, you know, and I got to

1230
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think those are people. And you're a bit of a

1231
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.760
<v Speaker 1>collector who thought, oh, I'm going to get one and

1232
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.760
<v Speaker 1>add that to my collection. But no one's gonna wear

1233
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And I talked about this on the show

1234
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the other night, how much I love Baseball's All Star Game.

1235
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.680
<v Speaker 1>It's the only true competitive all Star game, and I

1236
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.600
<v Speaker 1>just one of my favorite parts is the player introductions

1237
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 1>with all the different uniforms represented and things like that.

1238
01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.159
<v Speaker 1>And I might sound like I'm a hundred years old

1239
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and I almost am, but who cares. It's fun. The

1240
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 1>other thing, too about baseball playoffs is baseball from ten

1241
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet probably has too many teams involved. But like

1242
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you said, when you're right in the middle of it

1243
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and all these games mean so much, imagine what the

1244
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 1>games today are meaning. And some are already in the books.

1245
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, teams that just clinched a spot the playoffs

1246
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:06.479
<v Speaker 1>are celebrating with champagne. That's a good thing. Why would you.

1247
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:10.840
<v Speaker 9>Want to dilute all of these teams that have the

1248
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<v Speaker 9>legends and the tradition by taking their legendary like the

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01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.680
<v Speaker 9>Yankees pin stripes or some of these other uniforms away

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<v Speaker 9>right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, finally Dick our sixth and final swig.

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<v Speaker 9>I was leading to. Earlier summer of eighty nine, I

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<v Speaker 9>had one of those memorable moments with Pete Rose. The

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<v Speaker 9>Reds were in town playing the Dodgers, and I was

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<v Speaker 9>down there and I noticed there was a gathering over

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<v Speaker 9>in the visitors dugout where Pete was. Pete was holding court.

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<v Speaker 9>Brent Musburger was there, and a few of us were

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<v Speaker 9>standing around, and somebody's talking about batting stances, about how

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01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:44.840
<v Speaker 9>you know Pete would crouch and had that batting stance

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<v Speaker 9>for several years. And he said, you have to be

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<v Speaker 9>comfortable at the plate. He said, for example, Bobby told.

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<v Speaker 9>Then he stood up and he goes Bobby told and

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<v Speaker 9>held the bat way up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here over his head. Yeah, and he did. Fine.

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<v Speaker 9>You got your guy Kurt Gibson right now. Now he's

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<v Speaker 9>got the bat way down here and he holds it

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<v Speaker 9>like this. He said, that's the main thing. You have

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<v Speaker 9>to be comfortable at the plate. You find a stance

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<v Speaker 9>and you work with it and you stick with it.

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<v Speaker 9>And that's like rule one before you even step into

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<v Speaker 9>the box. And as you know, and I know, Pete

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<v Speaker 9>was always great with the media. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 9>may not have seen these kind of things that happened,

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<v Speaker 9>but Pete was always ready to talk to you, good

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<v Speaker 9>mood or bad mood whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at four day four day hiatus.

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<v Speaker 9>Back in seventy five in that World Series between Games

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<v Speaker 9>five and six, Pete went over to the media hotel

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<v Speaker 9>every day to talk to the reporters because they needed stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, there was like four days in between because

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<v Speaker 9>of the head He went to them. Yeah, yeah, he

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01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:45.239
<v Speaker 9>went over there to talk to them. And yet there

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<v Speaker 9>is the whole betting thing. There's the other side that

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<v Speaker 9>that's unfortunate. In two thousand and two, as Jason Stark

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<v Speaker 9>wrote in The Athletic Yesterday, you know, he had that

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<v Speaker 9>handshake agreement with Bud Selig to fall him the sword

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<v Speaker 9>to press conference, never go into a casino again and

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<v Speaker 9>all that stuff. And what does he do after the

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<v Speaker 9>handshake agreement walks into a casino to a sports book

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<v Speaker 9>and the whole deal was off. And maybe, you know,

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01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 9>with baseball in bed with betting sites now it's not

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<v Speaker 9>as big a deal. Maybe he felt that, hey, I'd

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<v Speaker 9>rather bet than be in the Hall of Fame. It's

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01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 9>an addiction. I can't kick whatever. But as we know

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<v Speaker 9>as a player, clearly a Hall of Famer without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 9>But you know, if they had a Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 9>for being your own worst enemy, I think Pete would

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<v Speaker 9>Pete would be a charter member.

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<v Speaker 1>He would he would have he would have cut the

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<v Speaker 1>ribbon to let people in. Gary Maher is our Western

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau chief. We'll come back with some hot reads for

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<v Speaker 1>Gary in just a minute. Here on the Big Moon

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<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirty WLA, Welcome back. We are chatting with

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<v Speaker 1>our Western Bureau chief, Gary Moore. He is presented with

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<v Speaker 1>us two guys in the six back. So a couple

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01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:45.039
<v Speaker 1>of hot reads for Gary to go back to the

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01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.199
<v Speaker 1>West side of the country where you used to work.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to cover the PAC twelve. It is furiously

1308
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 1>dog paddling, trying to keep his head above water and

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01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 1>adding teams. Honestly, it's kind of a joke. On the

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<v Speaker 1>one hand, I'm in favor of it because it never

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<v Speaker 1>should have had to dissolve in the first place. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a big step. Gary Gonzaga non

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01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.920
<v Speaker 1>football player, but Gonzaga joining the PAC twelve and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I think that's good for both because Gonzaga

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<v Speaker 1>has always been dismissed as a bully and a bad conference.

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<v Speaker 1>That might begin to change.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to take a while, but it might begin

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<v Speaker 1>to change.

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<v Speaker 9>I agree, And alluding to what we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 9>If if you can get Cow and you can get

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01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.680
<v Speaker 9>Stanford to come to their senses, come back and somehow

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01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.359
<v Speaker 9>leave the ACC get back into the pack with football,

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<v Speaker 9>and have both these pack egos and the Mountain West

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<v Speaker 9>egos to merge, which they should have done in the

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<v Speaker 9>first place. Get the Mountain West and these pack teams

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<v Speaker 9>together make one big Power five conference. Even though they

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<v Speaker 9>wanted to try and get rid of the dead weight,

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01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:57.680
<v Speaker 9>they overleveraged and they thought they had more leverage than

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01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.319
<v Speaker 9>they did. It didn't work out for either side. Right,

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<v Speaker 9>That's what needs to happen. That's the common sense thing.

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<v Speaker 9>But we know what happens when you're trying to deal

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<v Speaker 9>with common sense and conference realignments. It doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 9>go very far.

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<v Speaker 1>In all your time covering the PAC twelve out there,

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<v Speaker 1>which began as a Pack eight. Of course, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was a PAC ten when you first arrived in California.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering what was the arrogance there that had those

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<v Speaker 1>schools blindly following Larry Scott, the horrible commissioner who's the

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01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:30.079
<v Speaker 1>conference died on his watch. He wasn't a commissioner when

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01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it formally broke up, but he did the horrible job

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01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:37.239
<v Speaker 1>turned down the ESPN package, and these schools just went, oh, okay,

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01:14:37.279 --> 01:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever you say, boss. Was that happening when you were there?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And initially he was lauded for some of these

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01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 9>great TV deals when he first got in there, and

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01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:50.840
<v Speaker 9>then they started to see what the Big ten was getting.

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01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:53.279
<v Speaker 9>Then the SEC started getting a little bit stronger, and

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01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 9>then all of a sudden it wasn't so great, and

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01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.880
<v Speaker 9>then the money was being waved in front of the

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01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.119
<v Speaker 9>USC president UCLA and then you see where we are

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<v Speaker 9>now with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Larry was the guy. And as I've said

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<v Speaker 1>many times, those schools, UCLA and USC they could not

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01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.159
<v Speaker 1>afford to turn it down, you know, they were they

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01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:19.039
<v Speaker 1>were just hemorrhaging money, especially the USC. Yeah, they needed

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01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to go. So we'll see. It's going to take a while,

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01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:25.079
<v Speaker 1>but we'll see our second hot read will Levis with

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01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>yet another bad interception and the Titans actually a win

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01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:33.319
<v Speaker 1>over Miami. But some say the Titans won that game

1360
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<v Speaker 1>because Levis was injured and it was Mason Rudolph who

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01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 1>led them to the victory. But the Titans say, when

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01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:44.399
<v Speaker 1>he's healthy, when he comes back from the injury, and

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<v Speaker 1>it may be more serious than they're letting on. Will

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01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Levis is still the starter? How much longer do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Titans can afford to stick with him? And

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01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:55.159
<v Speaker 1>do you see him coming around?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I hope he does. Yeah, he's certainly got the

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01:15:58.359 --> 01:15:59.840
<v Speaker 9>talent to it. He just looks like he needs to

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<v Speaker 9>him down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>Again, this is his first full year of being a

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<v Speaker 9>starter so far, and he's had nine turnovers in four games.

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01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 9>If that keeps up, he'll definitely be sitting down. And well,

1374
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:13.680
<v Speaker 9>look at some of the other quarterbacks that are coming around.

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01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.520
<v Speaker 9>Finally Sam Darnell comes around. Who would have thought that

1376
01:16:16.600 --> 01:16:19.159
<v Speaker 9>a few years ago. Maybe it takes some seasoning on

1377
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:21.840
<v Speaker 9>some of these young guys, you know. You know, so

1378
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.640
<v Speaker 9>many young guys were like Donald, They were with bad teams.

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01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.960
<v Speaker 9>Levis is not with a bad team, But there they

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01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.680
<v Speaker 9>go in the wrong direction when he throws to the

1381
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.359
<v Speaker 9>other guys. Right, Yeah, he's got three was it three

1382
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:37.439
<v Speaker 9>fumbles and six interceptions, so that's not good. And Rudolph

1383
01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:39.560
<v Speaker 9>is just calm. You look calmer in the pocket. He

1384
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:41.119
<v Speaker 9>just kind of stood there and just kind of waited

1385
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.199
<v Speaker 9>a couple of minutes, took a couple of hits. So

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01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:46.079
<v Speaker 9>I just think it's seasoning at this point. But again,

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01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.119
<v Speaker 9>the turnovers I think will make a difference if he doesn't.

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01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:50.840
<v Speaker 9>If he keeps the the fumbles interceptions down, he'll probably

1389
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.640
<v Speaker 9>keep the job. He's got some good receivers.

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01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he does, and he's got a he's got a

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01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:57.159
<v Speaker 1>big league arm, and he can make be has made

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01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:01.439
<v Speaker 1>big league plays, but he's made boonehead play and it

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01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 1>just might cost him a starting job. And once that happens,

1394
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and you're a draft pick as highly taken as he was,

1395
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 1>then they move you, they trade you, they release you,

1396
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and you become a nomad. You become a career backup,

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01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and you wear a lot of baseball caps and hold

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01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of clipboards. So you hope that's not the

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01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 1>case for really anybody. But as you said, some guy's

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01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:26.239
<v Speaker 1>new life that brings new promise. Larry Mars at Pittsburgh.

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01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a great point. Yeah yeah, probably Mishandled in Chicago.

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01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 1>That might be the best example of all. Gary Moore

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01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:36.119
<v Speaker 1>is our West End bureau chief. Find him on X

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01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 1>or Twitter or wherever you want to look at.

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01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:40.199
<v Speaker 9>And I just hit it at nine to five to five.

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01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.119
<v Speaker 9>Gary Off should be around here somewhere, and you're the

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01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:43.159
<v Speaker 9>same place too, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>The big bloom cider one. Thank you, sir. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend, you too. And that's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to my guest, Gary Moore, to Sean Woods and

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01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>of course the JJ Weaver and congratulations on being named

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01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.439
<v Speaker 1>to the All State Good Works Team and being eligible

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<v Speaker 1>now for the werfol Trophy. And a programming note coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow night. It's the Chain Gang, the garage guys.

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01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:07.600
<v Speaker 1>They'll be right here, Doug Flynn, Keith Madison, Darren Heddrick

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01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:11.199
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about anything and everything, including probably some

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01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:13.920
<v Speaker 1>sports mixed in. But it's always fun when the guys

1418
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.840
<v Speaker 1>from the Chain Gang show up here in the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune in tomorrow night for all the festivity. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good night from the Garage in Lexington. What makes you

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<v Speaker 1>think she's a witch?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, She turned into a NEWT.

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<v Speaker 4>A

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<v Speaker 8>Go better
