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<v Speaker 1>Taddy, y'all, and welcome to the Deep Blue Sea the Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>On this a here show, we've been through the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Blue Sea trilogy, scene bass scene. We're doing it again,

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<v Speaker 1>but not today. Today we're targeting about a Western. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to do that much on this here show,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get to start the show like this.

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<v Speaker 2>And no more of that. Talk about Rango today. I

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<v Speaker 2>am Ja Clow. I'm your host, Jake Cluer. I like

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<v Speaker 2>doing Western voices when I can sometimes. What about Rango?

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<v Speaker 2>It's our year of reptiles, and hey, Rango stars a chameleon,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Rango, so I wanted to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're doing. What is Rango? It was a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven film directed by Coorovinski, starring Johnny Depp, Ida Fisher, Abbigil, President,

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<v Speaker 2>Alfred Molina, Bill Nye, Haroydine Stanton Ray Winston, timoth Yonovant,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Root In like five roles stacked cast of people

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<v Speaker 2>doing funny Western voices in this film about a hampered

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<v Speaker 2>theatrical chameleon who gets ejected from his cozy but lonely

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle and stumbles onto the town of Dirt, where there's

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<v Speaker 2>some water crisis. The water is the currency. The bank

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<v Speaker 2>holds the water, the bank's run dry. It's a metaphor.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it's. It's very vague. I just

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<v Speaker 2>could be for anything. I don't know. We'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So no Mark today, but I have a wonderful guest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's his third time on the show. He loves animated films,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's the perfect guest for this one. From Blueprint Review.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Andy Gording. Andy, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Jay, it's great to be back. During that on introduction,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just weighing up my options as to whether

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<v Speaker 3>I sho Western voice as well, but I'm I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't see myself getting away with it, so I

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<v Speaker 3>decided to come on as knee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why early on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always it was a pleasure to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you day. It's a shame Mark couldn't be here. But

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<v Speaker 3>when you said the email saying that that Mark can't

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<v Speaker 3>make it today, honestly I was there was a slight disappointment,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there was an element of relief because you

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<v Speaker 3>just have to be so on your toes with Mark

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to unpredictable tangents. I've said before, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think you and Mark are one of the

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<v Speaker 3>great comedy double acts when it comes to podcasting. And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously I've got you both as Facebook friends now, so

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you look like. But back before that,

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<v Speaker 3>when I used to listen to you, I used to

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<v Speaker 3>picture you as a sort of abane and sort of

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<v Speaker 3>endlessly patient British dog owner and Mark as a sort

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<v Speaker 3>of anthropomorphic labrador puppy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's there's some episodes where I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just hanging on for your life. See where is

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<v Speaker 2>this going? When it's just like just me. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>tend to talk about the film where Marks marks and Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You're more likely to ask something like what did you

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<v Speaker 3>think of Deep Blue cy two? Mark is likely to

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<v Speaker 3>have something like so if if a shark ever he've

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<v Speaker 3>dropped on you, what would that conversation be about? And

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<v Speaker 3>how would that shark use that information against you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which something we'll be talking about very soon because

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<v Speaker 2>we are gearing up for our Deep Blue Seed to coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>I am currently working on the script for it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going through line by line, listening to it and just

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<v Speaker 2>just getting back into the deep Spirit of Things, but

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<v Speaker 2>you watched it recently for the first time. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go into it too much because we will

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<v Speaker 2>of course have you on as a guest for that season.

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<v Speaker 2>But any initial thoughts, any regrets at this point that

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be coming on to talk about, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked onlikes. I've bought a copy of this from ourselves,

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<v Speaker 3>as I did with the previous Deeply Uh. I looked online.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the strong feelings about this film online. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got I think it's got like a one point eight

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<v Speaker 3>on letterbox or something like that, and everyone talks about

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<v Speaker 3>how what a disaster it is. And people kept saying

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<v Speaker 3>that it's just dumb, and I thought that's the worst

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<v Speaker 3>thing a film can be for me. It's just dulle

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<v Speaker 3>So I went into it with very low expectations. But

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<v Speaker 3>I comed through to try and find a positive review.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all. One of that I found just said

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<v Speaker 3>sharks are never done, and I agree. I actually had

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<v Speaker 3>a fun time with Deep Blue C two. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you've got it about right with your letterbox rating, which

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<v Speaker 3>is two point five stars. It's not it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>good film, but it's not boring at all.

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<v Speaker 2>When when people ask us about the sequels, We say

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<v Speaker 2>two is fun. Three is good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because because next time I come on here, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>watch three and I see that that it's quite a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I think the main issue people have with

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<v Speaker 2>two is it feels like it's trying to do one again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>likes it follows a lot of the similar beats, but

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<v Speaker 2>on a much smaller budget and kind of sillier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, with the whole plot's kind of B movie thing

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a charm to that that that small scale

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<v Speaker 4>version of the the original.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas three is its own beast. It actually follows directly

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<v Speaker 2>on from two, but the only continuing characters are the sharks.

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<v Speaker 2>In the two, there are some sharks out there, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't solve the problem, and so three is like, well

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<v Speaker 2>there's some sharks out there, what happens next. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>different thing, it's a different beast, and it's well done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very good. And because we have the director and

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<v Speaker 2>star on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, I can listen now I've seen it, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot I liked about it. I like Michael Beach,

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<v Speaker 3>like Nathan Lynn's performance, but he's good. I like some

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<v Speaker 3>of the effects are quite cool. The partially eaten face

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<v Speaker 3>at the window.

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<v Speaker 2>And a guy gets perforated in half my little baby,

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<v Speaker 2>that's very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>In the man tan the shark to kiss his ass

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<v Speaker 3>and then immediately getting his head bitteren off, that's cool

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<v Speaker 3>and of course too early, which I imagine is a big

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<v Speaker 3>talking point which she'd probably gone over in detail before.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the deves dropping sharks?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it's the Limitless Juices? Mark always calls it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the it's that whole plot of like he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make shark smarter so he can defeat the robot apocalypse. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>sure h is the film? Okay, so yeah, we'll listeners

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<v Speaker 2>look in your feed soon for our second go around

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<v Speaker 2>covering deep chapter chapter. But now we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Wrango.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>So you jumped this when when I send you the

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<v Speaker 2>email that the list actually I had sent you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>the first personal emailed to be on the rept hole

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<v Speaker 2>charge just going through my list, but when I got

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<v Speaker 2>to you, I was like, wait a minute, Rango, and

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<v Speaker 2>I put Rango.

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<v Speaker 3>In the list and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you think about it worked and I jumped for it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about Rango that I predicted you in love.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the animation, isn't it. It's obviously it's a it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw Rango there and it's it's a film that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd see. I think I might have seen it twice before,

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<v Speaker 3>even but I've kind of forgotten a lot about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember when it came out. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>really good year for the animated feature Oscar category. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>and this this broke. This won it and it broke

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<v Speaker 3>a four year run by by Pixar. It's happened to

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<v Speaker 3>be the year the Pixar submission was Cars two, so

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't going and Disney's submission was just there, so

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<v Speaker 3>good but fairly modest. Winnie the Poo re Boots. So

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<v Speaker 3>the big the big names were kind of out of

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<v Speaker 3>the run. But the other the other nominees that years

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<v Speaker 3>A Cat in Paris, which is a great little French

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<v Speaker 3>animated film. There's Puss in Boots, which I really like,

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<v Speaker 3>but I kind of had a grudge you get Trang

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<v Speaker 3>because it beat two of my absolute favorites. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>Spanish film called Cheeko and Rita, which is a film

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<v Speaker 3>I love. And then there was also Kung Fu Panda Tu,

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<v Speaker 3>which is my favorite dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Works but oh wow, okay I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a blueprint reviewer rundown of all the DreamWorks

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<v Speaker 3>films and that that came out on top. And then

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<v Speaker 3>also that that year, that's like I looked up the

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<v Speaker 3>other submissions that yet, there's some good films. The Adventures

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<v Speaker 3>of Tin Tins submitted for consideration ares a film called Wrinkles,

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<v Speaker 3>a Spanish film setting old people saying, which I really like,

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<v Speaker 3>and Arthur Christmas was also something. It's like, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of a lot of good possibilities that year, But

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, so, why is it about Rango that won?

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<v Speaker 3>So I rewatched it and it's terrific. I really loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched it twice in the last week in preparation

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<v Speaker 3>for this, but also just because I wanted to watch

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<v Speaker 3>it twice because I I don't know if I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>how good it was or just that I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>the first time around how good it was. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I really loved it. I don't know a lot about

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<v Speaker 3>gor Vibinski as a as a director. I've seen The Ring.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the first of Binsky, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>the first Pirates of the Caribbean and Rango, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>the only ones that I've I've seen, but this stands

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<v Speaker 3>out as his best film to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask because he's a director that I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen all but his most recent too. I missed a

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<v Speaker 2>Cure for Wellness, and I really I really tried to

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<v Speaker 2>see Good Luck, How Fun Don't Die, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't line up. So I will track down someone

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<v Speaker 2>this year. But he's a director who I do really enjoy,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've covered all of his Pirates films. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Pirates films on this show, really, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you haven't seen mouse Hunt. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like a very andy film.

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<v Speaker 3>I did see that when I was looking to her,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, oh, he directed that, And then I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen Mason. You think I've enjoying Mason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a little while since I've seen it. I

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<v Speaker 2>recently put it on my list of top five films

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<v Speaker 2>with brothers in on Movie Rob's Band of Brothers podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's got Lee Evans and Nathan Layton as brothers

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<v Speaker 2>who like Inherit this textile factory and it's got a

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<v Speaker 2>mouse in it, and like hilarity ensues and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to catch it. So it's like if it I think

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<v Speaker 2>it relies a lot on Lee Evans as a comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like physical comedy. So if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 2>into that, which quite so I would recommend and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to. We're we're debating like doing a Mammal Year

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, and I've already like mid the list,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got mouse on on it for Mammal Year, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm thinking, should we do the Kung Fry Pounder

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<v Speaker 2>Trojan of Quartette because I love the first one. The

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<v Speaker 2>first one is is maybe my favorite dream Works film.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the first one. I think it came third

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<v Speaker 3>on my list of DreamWorks films, just after The Wild

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<v Speaker 3>roboton number two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair. I think I've only seen I have not

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<v Speaker 2>seen Company Pounder four, but two and three i've seen

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the two is the one with Gary Alban

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, So we could do that for bird year

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, you get, you get Occasionally they try

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know. I didn't really have to think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have heard that it's not about The Australian

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<v Speaker 2>A breakdowncer It's just something else. It follows Raymond Gunn,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Yeah, that's who's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rango has stood out on his TV. To me has

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<v Speaker 2>been like he did Rango, okay, and then you watch

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<v Speaker 2>it and you haven't seen the rest of the Pirates films, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no, no, but I can. I can get that

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<v Speaker 3>remember quite enjoying the first one. But that Johnny Depp's

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<v Speaker 2>How how so I get it? And like that in

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<v Speaker 2>the first film, that's the one that's got the least

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<v Speaker 2>two and three, I'll be honest, I really I think

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<v Speaker 2>Babinski the first three he did and you can really

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<v Speaker 2>At World's End and Rango like the the dream sequence

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, the stuff with the Spirit of the

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<v Speaker 2>where Jack Sparrow is like just in this other world

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks the same, it's all bleached. And the

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<v Speaker 2>bit where all the little pillbugs carry him along the

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<v Speaker 2>exact exact same thing happens in that Pirates film with

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a stone that turns into a crab and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's a million crabs and they're all like carrying

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<v Speaker 2>him on a boat, and it's my favorite bit of

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<v Speaker 2>like what is this doing at a Pirates fill? What

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<v Speaker 2>are we watching here? Not at Weld's End doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of love, so bear that in mind if

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<v Speaker 2>you are gonna watch more of that franchise. Get Long

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<v Speaker 2>Ago as well as A Little Bit Too Long two

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<v Speaker 2>has my favorite action sequence in the franchise, which is

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<v Speaker 2>its giant wheel rolling around with people like fighting on

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<v Speaker 2>the giant wheel, and you get Davy Jones introduced Bill Nye,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best CGI characters of all time, just

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<v Speaker 2>the full time just of all time, there's enough in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, they are for kids, so I think your

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<v Speaker 2>son would probably be all right with them. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>how old he is, he's six in a few years, yeah, yeah, two, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe give a give it four or five years.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got about The Lone Ranger? Is that any good?

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<v Speaker 2>No? The Lone Ranger is very much a This film

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<v Speaker 2>is too long. This film is too long. It stars

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<v Speaker 2>are cannibal And how long is it is? It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's two and a half hours. It feels it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a good action sequence in it, but it's like quite

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<v Speaker 2>near the end, I think, And it's been edited all

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<v Speaker 2>to pieces, like when Helen Carter is in it as

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<v Speaker 2>a character who I think in one draft was a

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<v Speaker 2>were wolf and then she wasn't, and then what there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's like some bits of the plot where she is

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<v Speaker 2>a wolf when she's it's it's a mess. I've only

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<v Speaker 2>seen it the once. I don't plan. I don't plan

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and do it watch it again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm intrigued by it because our mutual friend David

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<v Speaker 3>Brooke has given it for Stars later Box amongst all

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<v Speaker 3>the or the terrible reviews. So I'm interested to see

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<v Speaker 3>what he sees in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he watched it on a weekend of trash.

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<v Speaker 2>You just like a bit of track, doesn't he, David,

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<v Speaker 2>We can't all be right all the time. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's gos an interesting career. I hope he keeps making

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<v Speaker 2>films because they're always weird. I like that he makes choices,

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<v Speaker 2>and the choice he made when he made Rango is

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<v Speaker 2>to make all the characters look disgusting, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my first written down. Incredibly ugly characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the most off putting things you'll ever see

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<v Speaker 2>in a film that's inherently for kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, straight away, the mole, the moral character called Boufa,

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<v Speaker 3>that he might be the most distressing creation, enormous like phallic,

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<v Speaker 3>drooping face stangler. It's I guess the nose would be

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<v Speaker 3>the technical I'm sure. Yeah, creeping phallic face danglers. That

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<v Speaker 3>it just you can picture it from that, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>And there's like there's a character with an arrow through

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<v Speaker 2>his eye.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Background characters is like a turkey that looks just appalling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's some very disturbing frug breasts, and there

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely yes. Sure, Even even the merry Archie band consisting

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<v Speaker 3>of small owls, which should be an intrinsically cute notion,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's one bit where they've seen singing while was

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<v Speaker 2>being hung or perhaps like from nooses, which feels I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I didn't really appreciate that bit. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a spider.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I forgot about him. He does this big like

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<v Speaker 3>tooth not toothless, but very strange tooth grin.

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<v Speaker 2>The first character that Rango meets is called road kill

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<v Speaker 2>yellow that's been run.

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<v Speaker 3>Through, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And even not even the big like Rango himself. He's

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<v Speaker 3>probably the most attractive character in it, which isn't insane,

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<v Speaker 3>like even like the big like beans is pretty hideous.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean you're forgetting that, Like the mayor's assistant Fox,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, the the one character could sort of edge in

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<v Speaker 3>towards cute. What's he called? He's one of the one

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<v Speaker 3>of the ones that I have forgotten His names? Well Stephen,

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<v Speaker 3>step yeah, of course is this the bank I love

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<v Speaker 3>Stephen who who voice? Yeah, the banker, And he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>like a squirrel character and he's he's not horrior like

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<v Speaker 3>Abysmal Bucket, but he gets murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets drowned in the desert. Well mostly we don't

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Yeah, and you know, there is a child character,

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<v Speaker 2>Abigail Bresident voices Priscilla, who I'm not sure what animals

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<v Speaker 2>she's supposed to be some kind of but she's like

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with death and being killed and taking their boots

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<v Speaker 2>and things. So like she's the child surrogate of this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not gonna know. She's not very cute. She looks diseased,

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<v Speaker 3>a strange kind of a strange kind of sickness in

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<v Speaker 2>She is apparently a cactus smell a cactus mouse. Wikipedia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all there's a bunch of like I love this one.

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<v Speaker 2>It picks animals that a lot of us have never

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<v Speaker 2>seen before. I think, like when he there's that rock

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<v Speaker 2>creature that he just cann of. Oh yeah, those camouflage

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<v Speaker 2>of the rock that tries to help me out that

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<v Speaker 2>what is that thing? What is it? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a rock thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was predisposed to like because all of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite animals are ugly and awkward. There's something I've

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<v Speaker 3>been drawn to that. I love the moose. They're really

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<v Speaker 3>awkward looking turkeys. I've always loved turkeys Selena Dunn's They're

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<v Speaker 3>they're weird looking things, and I love that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine it's easy to get such hideous creations

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<v Speaker 3>past studio executives. They must have given go O Verbinski

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<v Speaker 3>quite quite free reign to to create this, because normally

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<v Speaker 3>they in animated films, they're trying to push cute, pushing

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<v Speaker 3>the toys. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's famously in Moonlan

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<v Speaker 3>there's the character called Kricky, a little cricket who was

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<v Speaker 3>forced on the production by Michael Eisner, and the mats

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<v Speaker 3>hated Criky so much because they had to keep putting

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<v Speaker 3>him in there and they had nothing to do with it. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a meeting where they went through a big

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<v Speaker 3>they fleshed out like a big action scene with Milan everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>They had it all covered, and then at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of at the end of the big speech where they've

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<v Speaker 3>got it all worked out, someone put the hand up

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<v Speaker 3>and said, what's the cricket doing during all this? And

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<v Speaker 3>the guy said, to hell with the cricket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just googled like Rango toys and there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, so I don't think or there's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a three D printed thing. There's like a soft toy,

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<v Speaker 2>like a plush thing, but it looks possibly homemade and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a three D printed figure.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if anyone's in like a knitted boucazar.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet, So Andy, you've got to fill that hole. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>be the merchandise maker you want to see in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be like a sort of punishment you put

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never heard of us of a Selena don

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been googling. Ma like that that's new on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mole shrew venomous thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember it was. It was I first heard

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<v Speaker 3>of it. It was in David Attenborough's Top ten Creatures

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<v Speaker 3>of all Time. Okay, and it's its nose is on

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<v Speaker 3>a born socket.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, prehensile nose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I you know, we're a shark movie podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I love deep sea creatures, So if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see things that are ugly, head to the one other see.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite shark is the Goblin shark. Because it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Sulena Don of sharks. It's weird, preposis thing, no

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to see. It never been in a film,

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<v Speaker 2>never will be in a film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think when you say about live action directors

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<v Speaker 3>to do a sort of smaller, easier film after like

419
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 3>all the Pirates films and everything, And I think he

420
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.880
<v Speaker 3>said he didn't really quite understand the intricacy and expense

421
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 3>of animation. It turned out to be a lot, a

422
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 3>lot more difficult than he was expecting, but it turned

423
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<v Speaker 3>out looking fantastics.

424
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the budget for this apparently is one hundred

425
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:30.799
<v Speaker 2>and thirty five million dollars, which is quite a lot

426
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:34.319
<v Speaker 2>of money for a film. You know, it made more

427
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>than that back, so I'm almost surprised. Yeah, because as

428
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.519
<v Speaker 2>much as this is great, it's also quite weird.

429
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. It's not very yet. It's not very

430
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 3>It didn't seem commercially viable really, It's got a lot

431
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.920
<v Speaker 3>of very adult tendencies. I mean, I hate it when

432
00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:56.720
<v Speaker 3>people judge animated films artistics success on how well it

433
00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:01.160
<v Speaker 3>appeals to kids. But I don't see this is is

434
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 3>having a lot of appeal to kids. There's a lot

435
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>of dirty jokes, a lot of groupesome ones, like you said,

436
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>the hanging oils and everything, and there's a lot of

437
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.880
<v Speaker 3>it's very sort of sinny litter film. It's it's absolutely

438
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 3>crammed with references, and there's a lot of death, as

439
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.480
<v Speaker 3>we were saying, and the story line is quite convoluted

440
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 3>for young kids as well.

441
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and like you know, Vivinsky Is said an

442
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 2>interview that he considers El Topo to be an inspiration

443
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 2>for the film. That's not that's not a kid's film.

444
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Just imagine going to see Rango with a five year

445
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:41.599
<v Speaker 3>old and the kid just sitting in the audience, go half, I.

446
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>See he's Rowski in this one. I see. I like

447
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing.

448
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Did you did you get any of the other references?

449
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Because I started writing down the ones that I recognized.

450
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 3>I looked it up afterwards and there's there's loads more

451
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:56.640
<v Speaker 3>that I didn't get.

452
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Better. Well, the fear and loathing in Las Vegas is

453
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>an obvious one because he's on the windscreen of their car. Yeah,

454
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 2>you've got Clint Eastwood yea in it. And even saying

455
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 2>like don't aren't you like a guy with no name?

456
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Ye spelled out a little bit. But I'm sure there's

457
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>there's many, many others.

458
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 3>The ones that I tried down, the ones that I noticed.

459
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 3>This once upon a time in the West, when there's

460
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 3>the shootout, there's the creaky old windmill making the sound

461
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>in the background. That's once upon a time that I

462
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 3>was still one of the again David Brook's favorite films

463
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>than the I haven't seen The Lame Ranger, but it's

464
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>better than The Loame Ranger.

465
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

466
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 3>Good Band and the Ugly. There's that that moment where

467
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.000
<v Speaker 3>there's a toad and he gets picked up by a

468
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>bird and it carries him away and he says you

469
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 3>son over and that's the end of The Bad and

470
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 3>the Ugly. Uh, and the Lee van Cleef from The Good,

471
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 3>the Bad and the Ugly as well. Rattlesnake Jake sort

472
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 3>of looks like even with like.

473
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a snake with a mustache, kind of it's kind

474
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>of in the scales.

475
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Draw it looks cat Balu is a film about a

476
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 3>gun fact with a sober nose, and that's like the

477
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Hawk has the sober tip beak. Uh. I think Rango's

478
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Western costume at one point later and looked a bit

479
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 3>like the costume from The Three Amigos as well.

480
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's it's a very kind of three

481
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>and goes plot of like this guy coming in pretending

482
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to be yeah, a sheriff. He is, he's an actor,

483
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 2>he's like theatrically minded, he's so, yeah, it's very three

484
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 2>of me.

485
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 3>And then they were just the Western ones, I mean

486
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a couple of There's some chase scenes with like a

487
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 3>sort of yodling soundtrack which are very like the Raising

488
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 3>Arizona scenes sound track. There's a bit at the beginning

489
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 3>where Rango is sort of put a tear in a

490
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.680
<v Speaker 3>headless mannequin to keep putting its hand on his leg,

491
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 3>and that's what Donald Dake Carnor does in the make

492
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 3>Him Last sequence and sing.

493
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>The does indeed yes uh.

494
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>And then just the whole plot about water, it just

495
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 3>seems very like Chinatown.

496
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, ned Beaty. It feels like he could have

497
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>been that role in Chinatown. Yeah, John Houston ll yeah,

498
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 2>he's probably he's posibly playing JOHNN. Houston in this. I

499
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know, yeah, I mean so the clearest references is

500
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Timmy Golivant as the Spirit of the West. That's Clint

501
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>east Wood. Yeah, yeah, I that might be my least

502
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite part of the film. Me too, Me too, because

503
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I I don't think it's a My main problem is

504
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I love Tim Olivant, I like Clint Eastwood, not his politics,

505
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and and but I feel like they've they've animated an

506
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 2>old Clint Eastwood face and so he'll Olivant's doing a

507
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 2>young Clint Eastwood voice. Yeah, and that disparity bothers me. Yeah.

508
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean honestly, if you if you took the

509
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:14.759
<v Speaker 3>clothes off it, I probably wouldn't recognize it as Clinice would. No,

510
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that I know what should have looked

511
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 3>like naked. Don't think just the costume gives it why

512
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 3>it's that it's it. But yeah, I did think that's

513
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>not very well done. And the kind of that whole

514
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of spiritual side of it. I like some of it.

515
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I like some of the sort of Hallosiner Tory desert stuff,

516
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 3>but but the whole Yeah, it was when it goes

517
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 3>towards that Spirit of the West thing, it kind of

518
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>lost me a bit. They have had something to make

519
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 3>him go back didn't they have to have some sort

520
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 3>of like turning point. But yeah, yeah, yeah it's and

521
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>I think that would certainly lose. I mean, what I

522
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>like about the references in this is that you don't

523
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 3>have to get most of them, like the like the Good,

524
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 3>the Bad, and the ugly one with the son of

525
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.599
<v Speaker 3>a squaw that just plays as like a joke.

526
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a good band. I didn't remember that as

527
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>being the end of that film, So I just liked

528
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that as I wrote it down as a fun thing

529
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I liked about the film.

530
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, getting around when you remember when you see it's

531
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 3>the good and the ugly, it makes it better. But

532
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to know. But if you don't really

533
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>know anything about western or then this whole spirit of

534
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>the West bit is a bit it will be completely

535
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 3>lost on you.

536
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just don't enjoy that scene. It doesn't. It

537
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sit well with me. It doesn't. It's just like

538
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 2>no man can walk out of his own story kind

539
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 2>of thing, Okay, I don't like.

540
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>I think maybe if he just if you're going to

541
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>go down that kind of spiritual route thing again, like

542
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe he could have just then counted roadkill again and

543
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 3>have that similar sort of conversation with him. Yeah, it's

544
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 3>just a bit too out there at that point.

545
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's at that point, like, so what is real?

546
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>What is a dream? Because now we're talking about the

547
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 2>cacti can move as well, which said is like it's

548
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a myth earlier in the film, but it's not. And

549
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>they not only can they move, but they can also

550
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>like turn a wheel on a pipe. Sure. Great, there's

551
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>a film where like a comedian in the West closed

552
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 2>So whatever, who gets It's these these films where like

553
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't you can't dig into the logic. You just

554
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 2>have to go with it because like you're just thinking,

555
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>why can't the road runners talk? Why can't the hawked

556
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and like beans has a boar as a horse? What

557
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>none of these things can talk? But everything else can talk?

558
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Like does does Rango? What's the world? What's Wrango's world?

559
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Like is he aware of like other animals and like

560
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>does he talk to them? Is he should? He be

561
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>surprised at the existence of this town in the desert.

562
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>There's just just animals because he's he's a pet. He's

563
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>in he's in a tank, in a car.

564
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of questions there definitely is.

565
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 2>He's got a little glass of water in the tank.

566
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>That's that's him sized where that come from. You can't

567
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>dig into it, you just have to go with it. Fine.

568
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Surprised that we didn't see as much of the you

569
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 3>wind up Fish, because.

570
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's all over the marketing.

571
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in fact that the marketing seems to play down

572
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>the Western angle just it's all just a pictures of

573
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 3>rango most of the time. Uh, what's he called the fish, mister, mister.

574
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Tims, Mister Tims, mister Tims. Yeah, he's got he's got

575
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>wind up fish, a female like Barbie Torso. It's just

576
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>a torso in an arm and like a dead book

577
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's his companions.

578
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. One one thing person we haven't mentioned is involved

579
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 3>in actually is the writer John Logan. He wrote Gladiator.

580
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 3>There's a bit like there's a hint of that kind

581
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 3>of like hallucinatory stuff at the end of Gladiator with

582
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 3>all the floating that sure thing here. I didn't know

583
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>the name John Logan really, but he's written a lot

584
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 3>of films that I've seen. Written Gladiator, you wrote Sweeney Todd, Hugo,

585
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>The Aviator, a couple of Bond films, that don't really

586
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:50.200
<v Speaker 3>care about. And and he wrote another of my favorite

587
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>DreamWorks films which is one of the ones that hardly

588
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>anyone likes, Simbad Legend of the Seven Seats, which was

589
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>the last hand drawn dream dream Works, but it does

590
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 3>have some some like badly incorporated CG as well. Isn't

591
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 3>it that the monsters are like computer animated amidst the

592
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:17.159
<v Speaker 3>hand drawn stuff? And he also apparently wrote Michael, the

593
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>current controversial Michael Jackson by Picnic is doing the runds.

594
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have I haven't seen that, nor will I.

595
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 2>How much for credit that is to his name?

596
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I will avoid that.

597
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean he wait, okay he a film that comes

598
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>up all the time on this show he wrote, which

599
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 2>is Bats. He wrote, Bats, I haven't happen. Yeah me

600
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>neither Mark loves it. And we're going to talk about

601
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>it when we do Mammals. We've already got a guest

602
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 2>lined up for us. I haven't even worked out what

603
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>year it's going to be. We've got a guest. So

604
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in ninety nine he wrote Bats and any Given Sunday

605
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 2>with el On cool j So that's two deep with

606
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 2>the adjacent films. The year he came out, so, yeah,

607
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about this this guy again and Sinbad Legends

608
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>of the Seven Seats feels like a deep with the

609
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>adjacent film.

610
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

611
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And yeah you might not care about for the Bond films,

612
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>that's fair enough, but sky Fall is my favorite Bond film.

613
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 2>And he wrote so good, I'll allow it. That's got

614
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Kimodo dragons in it, so relevant for this conversation. Good, okay,

615
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think of the metaphor in rank

616
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>like the real, the real hidden? What is? What is?

617
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 2>What is it really about? Is it capitalism? Yes, it's capitalist.

618
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to be honest, yeah, I didn't really it didn't

619
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 3>really even register with me. There's there's so much were

620
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 3>not in it that I it didn't even occur to

621
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 3>me to look for any kind of meaning.

622
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't, you don't need to look for it. I

623
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 2>think it's just kind of it's very surface level of

624
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>like the bad Guys all the Wall.

625
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you meant there was there

626
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 3>was something a bit more than just the flat out.

627
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's it, because like, yeah, they it's fine.

628
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 3>It's I knew, I knew who was who was who

629
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<v Speaker 3>and what was what I really liked the idea of

630
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Rango as a as a character. It's because you get

631
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 3>like the obviously, like the evil man and all that,

632
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of characters are sort of what you expect.

633
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 3>But Rango is a really interesting character and that he's

634
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 3>he's so dramatically theatrical that keep himself in harm's way

635
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 3>just because he's committed to the part. I think the average,

636
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the average sort of script would have adding be theatric

637
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>and dramatic until his cowardice took precedence. But he will,

638
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>he will stay in the part even when he's in

639
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 3>the harms.

640
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That, yeah, I was as a danger that being a

641
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Depp performance, it can be he can be a

642
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>bit much sometimes, as we've talked about in the Pirates films,

643
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I did feel like the character of Rango was very

644
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Captain Jacksborrow esque in that he's just getting by on

645
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 2>more u luck than judgment in every situation.

646
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Is it worked okay for me in this I think

647
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>it's it allows Johnny Depp to unleash his hammy attendancies

648
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 3>in the appropriate come do it. I was thinking about

649
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Depp in general. Actually, there's an episode of the

650
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 3>TV series Community where they talk about they have a

651
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 3>course at a community college, which is asking Nicholas Cage

652
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 3>good or bad? Yeah, and obviously like they go through

653
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 3>our bad goes through very must care that's the god. Yeah,

654
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 3>But the lists he lists the actors and so he says,

655
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Robert down Danny Jr. Is good, Jim Belushi is bad,

656
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Jean clud Van Dam is the good kind of bad,

657
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Depp is the bad kind of good.

658
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but.

659
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 3>I totally get it, totally get that description.

660
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Room. You've got to wonder how long they spent dedicted

661
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>those names come like, okay, bad good? Uh, found out

662
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 2>how many al turns did they have for them? Who

663
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>else is on that list? But yeah, it makes sense

664
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<v Speaker 2>because he he's undeniably a good actor. Yeah, yeah, very

665
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>good in many things.

666
00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Writing down sort of what what I like him in

667
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.599
<v Speaker 3>what I don't say I really liked him. It's mostly

668
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Tim Burns I've had Wood said with to Dan's sweety.

669
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 3>I think he's good in Dead Man, I like him

670
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 3>in the Jim Jarmuchfield, but then like he could like

671
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Sleepy Harlem, I think is a film where he really

672
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.440
<v Speaker 3>started to go towards that that about those bad tendencies.

673
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Alice in Wonderland, he's awful and charleing the Chucolate Factory's

674
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>awful and and like Parates of the Caribbean, he's probably

675
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 3>if I go back and watch, he's probably bearable enough

676
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.760
<v Speaker 3>for what it is. But I think it's just that

677
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 3>loads of people absolutely love him. In Parates of the Caribbean.

678
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 3>He was Oscar nominated, wasn't he for that? He was

679
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 3>keeping across people. I watched the film Mystic River the

680
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 3>other day and I was looking up about Sean Penn

681
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 3>won that year Best Actor, and the Internet is full

682
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 3>of people saying it should have been Johnny Depp.

683
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, now were late in Himes. Champagne has three oscars.

684
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he does have three asks. Yeah, two leads and

685
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 3>supporting thing, isn't that? Uh?

686
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it might be the way around. I don't

687
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>could wrong. I don't know.

688
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I think Mystic River and lead, yes, sorry, I.

689
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Thought he was supporting a Mystic River, but he's lead.

690
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 2>It was Tim Robbins I think was nominating.

691
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, he got the supporting for it. Yeah.

692
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because yeah, and I would be fine with Sempayne

693
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<v Speaker 2>having two Yeah.

694
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I don't. I don't think Mystic river Is

695
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 3>is an arcoring performance is a bit over the top

696
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and place as well. But but it's better than Johnny

697
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 3>dept in Grabean. Yeah, because I like it when a

698
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 3>performance like Jacks Barry gets nominated because they're the sort

699
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>of performances that do often get overlooked. I like it

700
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 3>when something a bit more unusual like that gets nominated.

701
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 3>But I just don't think that's a very good performance.

702
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, I'm happy to see that kind of

703
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 2>thing be discussed. Like, you know, I don't. I didn't

704
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>particularly enjoy Bridesmaids as a film. I thought, I think

705
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll take it back. It's fine. It was a little

706
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>bit over hyped, but I enjoyed bits of it. But like,

707
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that ms McCarthy was nominated yea for that

708
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 2>because that's a different kind of performance. It wouldn't remally nominate.

709
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 2>That's that's great.

710
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a few of those unusual ones. Robert Downey Jr.

711
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 3>In Tropic Thunder, which is a controversial well now, but I.

712
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't think it should be. I still stand by that

713
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 2>being very phenomenal performance.

714
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and a Rubbert Downey junior cast was the was

715
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the example of a good actor given in community.

716
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 2>There we uh yeah, I'm just trying to I'm trying

717
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to find what year. I'm trying to find who else

718
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>was nominated that year, just to see if it shouldn't

719
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 2>have been. Okay, So we also had Ben Kingsley for

720
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>House of Salemon, for Jude Law for Cold Mountain, and

721
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Bill Murray lost in translation. Okay, Sean, So yeah, but

722
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>then you know, oh no, that was sorry, that was

723
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.119
<v Speaker 2>nomicely for a lead performance. I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

724
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:22.639
<v Speaker 2>supporting Okaya hich.

725
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 3>But you see you said that that's the that's the

726
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 3>actual that's the parents of the Cambean film where he

727
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 3>is the supporting character, isn't it.

728
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I would say, so, yeah, he is like the comic relief.

729
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>It's it's well, it's cleary nightly story more anyone else.

730
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and bloom is he for he just takes

731
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>over power?

732
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess you get You get a lot about

733
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 3>that that sort of people quite category for order that

734
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 3>they were think people were nominated for. And it depends

735
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.280
<v Speaker 3>how you look at it. Like Marlon Brando in The

736
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Godfather is what people remember about the Godfather and he

737
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 3>won for lead Actor, but he's in it far less

738
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:04.960
<v Speaker 3>than a Patino who was nominated for a supporting actor.

739
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And some of them are some of them are leaders,

740
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 3>like Mahersha Relley in Green Book was supporting and that

741
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.800
<v Speaker 3>is clearly a lead lead performance.

742
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:22.199
<v Speaker 2>That's the film that has two lead acting perfore. Yes, yes,

743
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 2>and he went back to back years, which fine. But

744
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I think if they had put Johnny Depp in supporting actor,

745
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he might have won.

746
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Tim Robins.

747
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>He might have been nominated over I don't know. Alec

748
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Baldwin for the Cooler A film is fine, but no

749
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 2>one has watched it in a decade. Yeah, and it's

750
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 2>if you asked me what film was Normage for, I

751
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 2>would not have been able to guess the bare film.

752
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh good. We have drifted far far away from It's

753
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like Mark is here with us. So did you enjoy that?

754
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:14.920
<v Speaker 2>You're you're a music guy, did you enjoy the music

755
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>of this film? Is maybe the four hour Mary Archie band.

756
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:21.360
<v Speaker 3>I do think it's cool. I like I like music,

757
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and I like a Greek chorus. Yeah, I enjoy the owls.

758
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I like the way they sort of bookend it. I

759
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 3>always like that when a Greek chorus gets the last

760
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 3>word there is a so you get that great like

761
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 3>ending bit where it's a that speech about perhaps he'll die.

762
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 2>In a household, surely he will die one day.

763
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I like that that little cheap that they that they

764
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 3>keep keep teasing that he's going to die and that

765
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 3>he just doesn't. That's a bit in the middle of

766
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 3>where one of the owls just is, when's he going

767
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>to die?

768
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 2>You keep a certain demise, Well, it's it's going to

769
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.039
<v Speaker 2>happen when. I enjoyed that too, But.

770
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 3>You get that big frorish at the end where they

771
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 3>say rango and it ends. But on on the DVD

772
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that I got, there's a there's a whole alternate ending

773
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 3>which goes on and on and he is dreadful.

774
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that there was an extended

775
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>cut on my DVD version, but I didn't have a

776
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>time to have a chance to watch the extended version.

777
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I just I just watched.

778
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.559
<v Speaker 3>I just watched that fight. The final deleted scene. I

779
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 3>don't I've seen the extended version is just just bungs

780
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 3>on the deleted scenes back in does it? And I

781
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 3>do not know.

782
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I will check.

783
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess I watched it. Like I said, I watched

784
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 3>it twice. In the second time, it did occur to

785
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 3>me or maybe should watch the extended version, But one,

786
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to get mixed up, and two I

787
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 3>didn't think it needed to be any longer.

788
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.159
<v Speaker 2>According to Wikipedia, the extended version adds a final scene

789
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 2>in which the flooded town is now a beach resort

790
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 2>renamed Mud and Rango rides out to deal with news

791
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that bad Bill is causing trouble elsewhere and gave his

792
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>final speech before he falls off his road runner steed.

793
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Of course, the Geela Monster voiced by Ray Winston, who

794
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 2>not in the film enough as far as I'm concerned.

795
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a very short part, isn't he.

796
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed that, like first meeting where he liked him

797
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 2>on the fire a couple of times.

798
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, Tray Winston in a minute he

799
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 3>comes in drug Because there's certain voices in there which

800
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't like. I would never have guessed that it

801
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 3>was Bill NAII Ah, yeah, I mean that seems like

802
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 3>a very strange piece of casting for rats like Jake,

803
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>but it works well.

804
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's it's coming off of the Pirates films

805
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 2>where he's David Jones, so they've worked together before, and

806
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he's excellent. The Pirates one was doing doing a voice,

807
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 2>it sounds more Bill Nai, but there's a lilt, there's

808
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 2>an accent to a kind I can't quite place it.

809
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 2>But he's like a squid monster, like a humanoid octopus

810
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 2>faced squid being who sounds like Bill Nye and so,

811
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and he's the bad guy. He's a bad guy in that.

812
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>So I think just having him be a bad guy

813
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.039
<v Speaker 2>in this too. I love Bill night voice, so whenever

814
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>he crops up and stuff, it's great, and just having

815
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>him play just the whole character. The character of rattles

816
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Sneak Rattlesnake Jake is I think possibly my favorite character

817
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 2>in the film. Just the design of him. He's a

818
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 2>big snake, sure because everyone else is so small. When

819
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>he's like attacking you, he's everywhere. There's just so much

820
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>of him on the screen, and I just the time

821
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>would have taken to animate just him, he would have

822
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>been incredible. And the fact that his tail is gatling gun,

823
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>he's got an adele and.

824
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like that's he's kind of a bad guy.

825
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't get a come upance. There's sort of a

826
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 3>it's a teared bad guy thing, isn't it. So his

827
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>role ends up being to meet out the come upance too,

828
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the worst bad guy.

829
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Who is the Yeah, and there's even like respect between

830
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.480
<v Speaker 2>him and Range at the end. You did it with

831
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>one bullet. I tipped my hat to you.

832
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 3>It's one thing that I made that is I've always

833
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 3>been quite disturbed by endings or like endings of character

834
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 3>arcs that involve people being dragged away screaming. It's then

835
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I just spend a lot of time imagining what happened

836
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:48.039
<v Speaker 3>off screen. So you see you see the I mean,

837
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 3>obviously he's getting his come up and he dragged away screaming.

838
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 3>But then it just we stay with the other characters

839
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 3>and we get the sort of happy end and it's

840
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 3>sort of lightings and the music gets bright and everything,

841
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>and I think, I'm thinking, what's happening, like over there

842
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.320
<v Speaker 3>in the distance.

843
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:04.280
<v Speaker 2>How far is he going? And what's he going to

844
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 2>do when he gets there?

845
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to think of other examples of people

846
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 3>being dragged away screaming at the end of films, but

847
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't think of that many a.

848
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing is coming to mind, but I'm sure whenever

849
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I see anymore again, it's gonna I'll be like haunted.

850
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Drag me to hell. This is one I thought.

851
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, yeah, clear what Yeah? When Beans tells to

852
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 2>hell is where do you think I came from? It

853
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is just a great retort.

854
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

855
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 2>So there's one scene in this where the whole town

856
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 2>had done like a water dance to come for water.

857
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a very odd sequence, like how how do they

858
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 2>determine this was the dance to do? How many times

859
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 2>they dance? Does it often work? But that scene turns

860
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>into Mad Max Fury Road. I'm not the first person

861
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to say it, but it's it's the same scene. It's

862
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the bad guy up like the mayor of the town,

863
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 2>up on an elevated platform, dishing out the water to

864
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 2>this town that have come to It's the same. It's

865
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the same scene.

866
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 3>When was When was? When was Mad Max?

867
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Four years after this?

868
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

869
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>That was twenty fifteen and this is twenty eleven. But

870
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I know that George Miller was making Fury Road for

871
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like twenty years, so I think it's it is just coincidence.

872
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he's actually judgement is another example of live action

873
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:45.639
<v Speaker 3>directory A happy yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's I quite

874
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 3>like that that water dancing because it's it's set to

875
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 3>the sun cool water, which I've always really liked. It's

876
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 3>on the on an album called what's it called? Gunfighter

877
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Bounds and Trail Songs by Marty Robbins, which is one

878
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of my favorite kind of Western themed albums.

879
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a favorite Western theme album.

880
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not something that a lot of people I was.

881
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Our brother, We're not though, maybe the soundtrack on on

882
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 2>On Facebook, you you have a project where you're doing

883
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>your like top one hundred albums from every.

884
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Decade, going on endlessly every time, every.

885
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Time you post one. My initial reaction was like, there's

886
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 2>not one hundred albums. What are you talking about? Not

887
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>for many just in general? How going to be a

888
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred albums? Surely not. I don't think I've listened to

889
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.559
<v Speaker 2>one hundred albums. I think, let alone my best a

890
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>one hundred from this particular ten year. No, not a chance.

891
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I should definitely go and listen to some of the

892
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>ones that you've you've suggested.

893
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I am always bang up to date now, I mean

894
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 3>in the twenty twenties and become a top seventy list

895
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.280
<v Speaker 3>because I haven't had time to listen to one hundred

896
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 3>this decade yet, but we are only seven years into

897
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.719
<v Speaker 3>the decade, so I think it fits.

898
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>This episode is going to come out just after we

899
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 2>did our final chapter of DC one where we went

900
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 2>into the local j song in which our musical taste

901
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 2>came up a lot on the episode. And I basically

902
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 2>don't listen to music, so this will be a surprise

903
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.559
<v Speaker 2>to no one. Nick Rehag was one of the guests

904
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>on that episode, and he was like, so, why do

905
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 2>you like listen to new music? What do you do?

906
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And I don't. I've got that. There's the twenty songs

907
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that I listened to, and I've got the twenty songs

908
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I listened to, and I'm I'm good with the twenty

909
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 2>songs that I listened to. I don't why do they

910
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 2>make new mus I don't understand why they make new music?

911
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think I broke him a little bit.

912
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Is that why why you'll be avoiding the film? Michael?

913
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Then?

914
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Just your general version to music, no other controversial elements.

915
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't. What else is there? I've heard those songs? Before,

916
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:11.679
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't hear them again. We're getting to the

917
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 2>end of my notes. I just wanted to point it

918
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.800
<v Speaker 2>when they when they go underground. Yeah, and of my

919
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>favorite romans. They're going there following this pipe on the

920
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>ground and they walk past a giant eye. It's the

921
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 2>giant I watching them never explained.

922
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is that is odd.

923
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 2>What is it? What is this creature? So if they're

924
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 2>going underwater, then it's a big squid, but I don't

925
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>know what will be a giant eyed creature that's under

926
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the desert.

927
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I even like, momentarily I thought it was

928
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.280
<v Speaker 3>a Lord of the Rings reference.

929
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it could be.

930
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's chucked for a reference and so it

931
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 3>could could have just been stick that in there.

932
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's preceded by one of my favorite jokes

933
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 2>in the film was like what do you do now?

934
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like, now we ride and it cuts to the

935
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 2>posse riding out, and then like what are we going?

936
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.559
<v Speaker 2>And then they just go back because I know where

937
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going.

938
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 3>I think, I think my favorite, my favorite joke in

939
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the show and you the guy who killed the Jenkins brothers. Yep,

940
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 3>with one bullet. Oh seven of them, and.

941
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Then he explains the whole how he killed seven people.

942
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>He kills a from one bullet. He doesn't have everything

943
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>with one bullet. The whole film. Yeah, like there's silly stuff.

944
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 2>What's actual for it's it's yeah, it's very silly, and

945
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it quite a lot. And there's one of

946
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the townspeople is just like a bird of some kind

947
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of like a white scragger of the old bird. I

948
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.960
<v Speaker 2>loved his voice. I don't know what his character name is.

949
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who the actor is who did it.

950
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.480
<v Speaker 2>He sounds like Slim Pickens. It was not Slimpiggins, but

951
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I love Slim Pickens's voice. And anyone doing a Slim

952
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Pickens impression great.

953
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I know the one you mean that.

954
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I can't I can picture him. I can't quite see

955
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:06.920
<v Speaker 3>him as a bird. I can see the scraggliness, the

956
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of whiteness, but he's just sort of vague nightmare

957
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 3>image in my head. Now it's just.

958
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Film. It's just a collection of vague nightmri images.

959
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.440
<v Speaker 3>That a cracking coat for the poster.

960
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I think we've talked abou everything

961
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about is there anything else that

962
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to talk about about Wrango, Not really.

963
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean I had I have a note which just

964
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 3>doesn't go anywhere. It just says a human spinal column

965
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 3>in fecal matter, which is sure. I think I just

966
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:51.239
<v Speaker 3>wrote it down because I thought that is well, it's

967
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 3>part of a conversation they have about what are they

968
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 3>even talking about? Just grim things that they've.

969
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>They've in there, I think, yeah, And.

970
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I think it comes. It comes immediately

971
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 3>after a there's some sort of joke about a anal

972
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 3>exam or something.

973
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Is probably sure.

974
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 3>The doctor puts on a rubber glove and someone says

975
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.679
<v Speaker 3>awkward or something, and it was it was just a

976
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:32.199
<v Speaker 3>bit of a barrage of grim poo jokes at one point,

977
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 3>which I got a bit weighed down by. There's a

978
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 3>tendency for it to go a bit a bit grim

979
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and a bit too much in places. That's that's the

980
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.079
<v Speaker 3>only thing that I didn't really like about this wedding.

981
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because that's like one character says, they coughed up,

982
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and I coughed up an entire tribe of pygmies. They

983
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:54.760
<v Speaker 2>started looking at me weird. Yes, The character of Spoons says,

984
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.519
<v Speaker 2>like you found a human spoiler column.

985
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:57.719
<v Speaker 3>In that's right.

986
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I looked up and the the bird guy

987
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.760
<v Speaker 2>that I like is voiced by Lou Temple, So shout

988
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 2>out to Lou Temple, who was Adam Banjo in The

989
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Devil's Rejects, like Unstoppable, and he's been he's one of

990
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 2>those guys who's do a lot of things.

991
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Unstoppable, the Train, yes, which.

992
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 2>They stopped the train. Yeah, it's a lie. The film

993
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 2>was a lie. But great, So I think it's I

994
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>can't even see why it's anymore because it is now dark,

995
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 2>so that's talking so long. I can't see. It's so good.

996
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 2>But I I if you've got this far and I

997
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 2>haven't watched Ranger, then what are you doing? Go watch Rang?

998
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Ranger's great.

999
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if if we will have convinced

1000
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.360
<v Speaker 3>people to or not with our conversation.

1001
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Really, it's like a nightmare. It's a nightmare of hideous screechers.

1002
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Go watch it with your kids.

1003
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.719
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm surprised in retress fact that it won

1004
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the Oscar. It's I think probably it was just it

1005
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:07.800
<v Speaker 3>was the lack of a Pixar or Disney big hitter

1006
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 3>that year that opened up the opportunity for it.

1007
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that Tintin didn't get the nomination. Yeah, I

1008
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:16.239
<v Speaker 2>love that tint film.

1009
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Tin Tintin is a great film.

1010
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, apparently they're making it. They're finally making another one.

1011
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I heard recently.

1012
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I'm surprised After Christmas didn't

1013
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 3>as well.

1014
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I love After Christmas is in our house. It's

1015
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>it's our Christmas film. We watch it. It's Christmas tradition.

1016
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Christmas a tradition is after Christmas.

1017
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like if they were nominating now, after

1018
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Christmas would be in that. I don't know what it

1019
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 3>is about the changing time, which makes me think maybe

1020
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 3>after Christmas would get nominated now.

1021
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe, who knows. Well, Listeners, if this is your

1022
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>first time listening to the show, welcome we when we

1023
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about shark films, but because this is Deep Blue

1024
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Sea the podcast, every film that we watch, I go

1025
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.199
<v Speaker 2>through and work out how deep the action on screen is,

1026
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 2>how much of it takes how blue everything on screen is,

1027
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and how much it takes place at sea. So, of

1028
00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 2>course Deep Blue Sea or an average fourteen and a

1029
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.280
<v Speaker 2>half meters of forty seven and a half feet deep,

1030
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:15.760
<v Speaker 2>thirty one percent blue, and eighty nine per cent of

1031
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>it takes place at sea. And do you think Rango

1032
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 2>is deeper, bluer, and more at sea than deep blue Sea.

1033
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing no, no, of course not, of course not.

1034
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.320
<v Speaker 2>The only part where they go deeper to was when

1035
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>they go under the ground to follow a pipe, and

1036
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 2>it's not very deep. Also, I factored in that this

1037
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>these are all animals, and like Rango, would be about

1038
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>ten to twenty centimeters high, So basically everything is at

1039
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 2>ground level. There's some stuff up in the air. There's

1040
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>like aerial battles with bats, which actually one thing I

1041
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 2>do really enjoy is when the bats go into a

1042
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:51.519
<v Speaker 2>wall they explode.

1043
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a good scene. That is a good

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if there's any any reference to the film

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<v Speaker 3>Bats in that scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe have to I'll let you know once I

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01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 2>watched Bats. Yes, ain't no, harg it's nothing but bats.

1048
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:11.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's our depth Wise, this works out being

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01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:15.559
<v Speaker 2>eighteen and a half centimeters or point six feet up

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01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 2>in the air, which means it's slightly higher than the

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01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 2>reef stalked and slightly lower than Orca seventy first on

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01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 2>our ranking list. Blue Nus This is fourteen percent blue

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<v Speaker 2>because the sky is very blue throughout it is.

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01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:32.800
<v Speaker 3>That's true. Yeah, that's all the skies, though.

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01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of clouds in this film. And I

1056
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.880
<v Speaker 2>think beans Is clothes are blue as well, so it

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01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:42.119
<v Speaker 2>means it's slightly bluer than Sea Fever and slightly less

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01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 2>blue than conn Air of course, and Fever.

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01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Sounds like it would be a very blue films it does.

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01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it was more green anythink is a green film,

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01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:59.519
<v Speaker 2>and yet never at sea for a single second. This

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01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:03.559
<v Speaker 2>film zero percent and five point seven percent of it

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01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>is in or around water, So that's when they're in

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01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the water bottle and like the opening scene where he's

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01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 2>like by the pool acting that kind of stuff, and

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01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 2>then or at the end when the town's flooded, Yeah,

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01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 2>that's water. So five point seven cent of water, which

1068
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 2>is slightly more than Boa versus Python, slightly less than

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01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Mega Python versus Gatroid. So good company on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of reptile films all clubbing together near the

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01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:36.599
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the sea ranking as expected. Really good, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to do it for a discussion

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01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of Rango Andy. Do you have anything that you would

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01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:43.239
<v Speaker 2>like to plug, No, you can.

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01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Just just my usual writing can be found over at

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01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 3>a Blueprint review. I think my latest article was a

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01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 3>full chronological watch of all the films by George Cukor

1078
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 3>and these ranked them and reviewed old. There's also I've

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01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:06.280
<v Speaker 3>just mentioned it briefly. Yeah, we're not giving away any

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01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.800
<v Speaker 3>details ready yet, but myself and Todd Lebanow have Forgotten

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01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Films are working on a new podcast, which is we're

1082
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:21.280
<v Speaker 3>hoping to debut this July. I mean it's it's not

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01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 3>much of a trailer for it because I can't really

1084
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 3>tell you anything about it at the stage. But if

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01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.199
<v Speaker 3>you like me, and if you like Todd Lebanou, or

1086
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 3>if you like one of us and think that we'll

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01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 3>cancel run out, tune in for that.

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01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Todd, friend of the show has been on seven times.

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01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.360
<v Speaker 2>We'll have them on again soon, I hope. Yeah. I

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01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 2>will listen to any podcast that he or you do,

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01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 2>so that you're doing one together. It's great, can't wait. Yeah,

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01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:50.480
<v Speaker 2>it's I'm looking forward to it. Excellent. So yeah, you

1093
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>can follow this show all over social media at Deep Blue,

1094
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:56.920
<v Speaker 2>seapod or email us Deep SPoD at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week is the show that we recorded three years ago.

1096
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.880
<v Speaker 2>It's finally coming out. It is our full Deeply Cy

1097
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 2>script reading a little palette cleanse before. It's the opposite

1098
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:13.119
<v Speaker 2>of palate lens, which is diving straight back into it

1099
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:15.280
<v Speaker 2>before we get into Deep C two. You can hear

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01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 2>the full script, the full script reading of Deeply Cy

1101
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 2>with the Deeply C players that's been chapped by chapter

1102
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 2>all through this season. It's all pieced together in one

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01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>long thing. So come back next week for that, plus

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01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 2>all the little silliness that happened before, after and during

1105
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that I cut out of the individual episodes. It's all

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01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 2>going to be in there next week because that was

1107
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 2>a silly, fun time that we all had recording that show.

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01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's playing the role for Ronnie Cox in that reading.

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01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I think you played Ronny Cox if you listen carefully.

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01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.960
<v Speaker 2>He listened carefully before he was ever on the show

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01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 2>for an episode Andy Gordon playing Ronnie cos I of

1112
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 2>course played the bird because why not. Because I was

1113
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 2>screeching into the microphone. A lot of it didn't get

1114
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:06.599
<v Speaker 2>picked up, so that was good.

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01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.039
<v Speaker 3>But he tied it just as someone was calling someone

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01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:11.400
<v Speaker 3>as son of a bitch so it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A screech great so yes, that will do it for Rango.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you once again to my wonderful guest, Andy Gordon,

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01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 2>thank you for having me. I have been to Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Kluer and will deep Blue. See you next week.