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Speaker 6: Welcome to the occult Rejects. This episode, we got a
Speaker 6: couple of us here. We've got a special guest joining
Speaker 6: us tonight, very excited. We got Julia covering that, joining
Speaker 6: us to talk about gremlins. But before we get to
Speaker 6: everybody else. Before we get to Julia, let's introduce the
Speaker 6: other people.
Speaker 2: We got my boy, Headless Giant. What is going on, sir?
Speaker 2: How are you?
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Speaker 6: Thank you awesome, Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate
Speaker 6: you making it and my main Jules. How are you, sir?
Speaker 6: What is going on?
Speaker 3: What's going on? Guys? Yeah, I'm Jewles, host of the
Speaker 3: Great Pill podcast, The Mississippi Mystic. You know who I am.
Speaker 3: Haven't done in occult rejects here in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: I think, So it's it's good to be back, especially
Speaker 3: around the holidays. And it's good to see Doc here
Speaker 3: as well as Julia and you two gentlemen, Headless and Nick.
Speaker 3: So Happy Yule, Happy Solstice, Merry Christmas. And I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to tonight.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, thank you very much, man, man, and we
Speaker 6: got Doc Brown in the house.
Speaker 2: What is going on, sir? How are you? Thank you
Speaker 2: very much for making it with this thing?
Speaker 8: No, man, thank you for inviting me. Man. It's just
Speaker 8: most of the time, with work and everything else, I
Speaker 8: can't make these things. So but now I have no excuse, guys.
Speaker 8: I'm officially full time now, so I'll have a lot
Speaker 8: more time to hang out with you guys. But Prometheus
Speaker 8: Limb's podcast anywhere you can consume content, you can find
Speaker 8: me there and look forward to hanging out and discussing
Speaker 8: some stuff with tonight. Let's get weird and green hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Thank you sir. Hey we got
Speaker 2: Julia the Cosmic Peach. What is going on? How are you?
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm excited for this one because it's one of
Speaker 4: my favorite Christmas movies and it is a Christmas movie,
Speaker 4: not Halloween. Okay, the whole fucking first beginning of this
Speaker 4: shit is Christmas music and Christmas trees, and it's definitely
Speaker 4: a Christmas movie. I know some people are like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's not a Christmas movie like Diehard. Did they put
Speaker 4: it in like the die Hard category? Yes, but it
Speaker 4: definitely is a Christmas movie. But I'm excited about tonight.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having.
Speaker 6: Me, of course, thank you. Uh yeah, I would always
Speaker 6: I would say I remember that even growing up that
Speaker 6: was like synonymous with Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 6: I remember, like it was even like there's parts I
Speaker 6: remember all the snow in the fake town and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what's her nuts? Phoebe Cats her dad died
Speaker 4: playing Santa Claus, remember, and she tells like this horrific
Speaker 4: story about him getting stuck in the chimney and his
Speaker 4: fucking corpse got stuck in there and was just like
Speaker 4: they were.
Speaker 5: Like, what's that smell? Did somebody leave eggs out?
Speaker 3: Now, it's just that I tried to go down for chimney.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he tried to go down the chimney like Santa,
Speaker 4: and he got stuck in there and that and literally
Speaker 4: the only reason that they figured that out is because
Speaker 4: this corpse started stinking in the chimney and they were like, Oh,
Speaker 4: somebody better go look at that. Uh yeah, oh it's
Speaker 4: Dad Hello, dead in the chimney.
Speaker 8: No town set up just like that. It was the
Speaker 8: identical one for Back to the Future.
Speaker 2: Was that right?
Speaker 5: It does look like that, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4: It's almost identical to the downtown in Back to the Future.
Speaker 3: And I never thought about that.
Speaker 5: Well, there are.
Speaker 4: Plenty of conspiracies with Back to the Future, but this
Speaker 4: one in particular I thought was interesting because there are
Speaker 4: There's a there's one character he is kind of like
Speaker 4: the town crazy guy, and he's always talking about how
Speaker 4: there's they're listening to us, and there's Grimlins quote unquote
Speaker 4: in all of like the technology.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that, Nick, Yeah, I remember, I think
Speaker 5: I remember that guy. Yeah, he drives like a tractor.
Speaker 2: Ye, some ship, I remember that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a conspiracy theory guy and they're always like
Speaker 4: making fun of him and saying like, oh, it's Roger
Speaker 4: whatever the fuck his name is. But he literally he
Speaker 4: talks about how they're always listening to us, and they
Speaker 4: put like bugs in our houses and our TVs and
Speaker 4: our phones, and the reason he drives the tractors because
Speaker 4: he can't trust like foreign made vehicles. And literally he's
Speaker 4: the conspiracy theory guy in the movie. And uh, spoiler
Speaker 4: alert in case you haven't watched The Grimlins before, which
Speaker 4: if you haven't fucked you like.
Speaker 5: Who hasn't watched The Krimlins.
Speaker 4: But he dies and you know, but I just thought,
Speaker 4: you know, we could talk a little bit about it
Speaker 4: if you want, Nick, we could go around and just
Speaker 4: say when we first watched it or whatever. I was
Speaker 4: a little kid and it was nostalgic for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, trying to think what did it actually come out?
Speaker 2: You remember, let me pull it.
Speaker 8: Up really quick, eighty eight or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've always kind of grouped in with movies like back,
Speaker 3: you know, Back to the Future, The Goonies. No, no,
Speaker 3: And just so everyone knows, this is the closest we
Speaker 3: could get to a Fridgian hat right now. But we
Speaker 3: will be working on models those for the Gray Pilled store.
Speaker 5: So I love it.
Speaker 3: Look never mind, I was about to start gripping stickers again.
Speaker 8: That guy he was dripping that tractor because he had
Speaker 8: four DUIs.
Speaker 6: No, No, I noticed the show because.
Speaker 4: They said that in the movie he had forty du eyes.
Speaker 8: No, I was just you know, being caddy. You know,
Speaker 8: he didn't need a license to tractor.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 4: He drove the tractor to the bar and they wouldn't
Speaker 4: let him leave in it because he was drunk as skunk.
Speaker 4: And I thought, yeah, I thought maybe that was really
Speaker 4: part of the movie that he had forty.
Speaker 2: Well didn't they get him with his own tractor too?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they came through the dining room window, through the
Speaker 4: house and literally ran him over.
Speaker 5: Well don would then you see it?
Speaker 8: Oh, I've seen it when I was just a little kid, man,
Speaker 8: But that's probably it's probably been probably twenty years or
Speaker 8: more since I seen it, but I remember bits and
Speaker 8: pieces of it. And where as a kid, just seeing
Speaker 8: those little dudes, you know, freaked me out. But they're furry.
Speaker 8: You're like, oh man, those are cute. I want one,
Speaker 8: And then they get wet man remember all the little warts.
Speaker 8: That's there's two things that stood out to me in
Speaker 8: that movie was I can't remember if it was his
Speaker 8: Grimlin or if it was another one, but one of
Speaker 8: them got wet and just all these little boils and
Speaker 8: bubbles started popping up all over their back like eggs,
Speaker 8: and all these eggs just kept bursting like pimples and
Speaker 8: goo going everywhere, and uh that. And then I talked
Speaker 8: about pre roll the I don't remember if that was
Speaker 8: the first one or second one, but where they're in
Speaker 8: that big corporate building and they go all the way
Speaker 8: to the top level and there's the the female Grimlin
Speaker 8: with the boost the air and push up broad lipstick
Speaker 8: and peats. Brought to my attention said, no, that was
Speaker 8: a male Grimlin.
Speaker 2: It was just a trip.
Speaker 8: Would you call it a trembling.
Speaker 5: A trans Grimlin?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or as we call him in reality, gremlins.
Speaker 2: What about you.
Speaker 4: Had, Liz, when's the first time you saw it?
Speaker 7: Oh? I saw it. It had to be back in
Speaker 7: the eighties. It always sort of stuck out to me
Speaker 7: as kind of like one of these big marketing movies.
Speaker 7: So they had all these spin offs, all this really
Speaker 7: interesting march about it and stuff like that, and it
Speaker 7: had a really iconic feel with the whole water after
Speaker 7: midnight or feeding them after midnight thing, and you know,
Speaker 7: that sort of stuck around in the popular consciousness for
Speaker 7: a long time. It was also produced by Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 7: so he was kind of.
Speaker 4: In the that's what I'm saying. It's a Spielberg and
Speaker 4: he like put little like weird things in there. The
Speaker 4: guy who did the soundtrack, his name is Joe Dante.
Speaker 4: He also did the soundtrack for The Burbs, and there's
Speaker 4: a lot of weird stuff in the Burbs. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you guys have seen it recently with Tom Hanks,
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's he's a weird guy. Spielberg is obviously
Speaker 4: a weird guy. But my thing is, like it's on
Speaker 4: Hulu right now. You can watch it for free anybody
Speaker 4: who has Hulu. But I forgot how actually creepy it
Speaker 4: was until I just watched it back. Like it's a
Speaker 4: legitimate It's like Crampus or something. It's like a legitimate
Speaker 4: Christmas horror movie. Especially after they get wet and the
Speaker 4: mom goes upstairs and they're there, they've already like hatched
Speaker 4: out of their eggs or whatever, and they're like hunting
Speaker 4: her throughout the house and there's like this weird creepy music.
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't believe I used to just
Speaker 4: watch this as a kid, Like, no, big, this is creepy,
Speaker 4: Like this is actually like and then they go to
Speaker 4: the YMCA and they all jump in the pool, uh
Speaker 4: and there's they make that weird noise like ray and
Speaker 4: it's actually like legit fucking creepy as fuck. But my
Speaker 4: question to you guys is do you feel like he
Speaker 4: snuck like some little weird stuff in there? Like, mind you,
Speaker 4: this is nineteen eighty before like all the conspiracy stuff
Speaker 4: and like everything we know about right now, do you
Speaker 4: feel like the story and like I get I guess
Speaker 4: the premise of the movie, Like do you feel like
Speaker 4: he snucks some stuff in there?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so you first see these little guys
Speaker 3: at when he goes to this shop, right, this is
Speaker 3: this shop and there's this magical like Japanese that's working there, right,
Speaker 3: and you know he makes this.
Speaker 4: Deal like China, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And he makes this bargain right, and the guy tells
Speaker 3: him so he kind of tells him that there's these
Speaker 3: rules to these these kind of creatures, you know, don't
Speaker 3: feed them past a certain time and make sure that
Speaker 3: they don't get wet and all this stuff. So already
Speaker 3: he's presenting him with this supernatural creature, right that that
Speaker 3: uh you know, who knows how ancient it it is,
Speaker 3: and there's all these rules and kind of guidelines to it,
Speaker 3: these like magical. Uh you'd even call it like you know, uh,
Speaker 3: I will when when I was younger, it really reminded me. Now,
Speaker 3: well now kind of still reminds me of an elf
Speaker 3: or like a leprechaun.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 3: And if you look into the lore of the elves
Speaker 3: and the dwarves, there's light elves and there's dark elves
Speaker 3: and lights, so like there's different forms of So basically
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is, uh, these grimlins could be like
Speaker 3: an elemental uh, but it's it a nastral elemental that
Speaker 3: attached on to I don't know what I'm trying to say. Basically,
Speaker 3: it's this, it's this magical creature. Headless can maybe explain
Speaker 3: it a little better than me.
Speaker 7: Well, if I was going to classify it as as
Speaker 7: some kind of a cryptid, I would I would definitely
Speaker 7: be going for more of like a you know, kind
Speaker 7: of a definitely like an ancestral spirit. It's got that
Speaker 7: feel to it, like there was some sort of a
Speaker 7: linkage back to the place that it was from som
Speaker 7: Chinese at least, and some kind of a yeah, a
Speaker 7: feeling in that regards. But I don't know, I have
Speaker 7: to I'd have to actually see, like is this this
Speaker 7: seems like a monculous type right, because.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to say it, but like, yeahs you know this this crat.
Speaker 4: And a cat fucked you get a mug why, which
Speaker 4: is what Gizmo was right, because there's grimlins and then
Speaker 4: there's the mug why, which is what they start off
Speaker 4: as when they're all furry and cute and they're big
Speaker 4: little giggly eyes. But let like, let's just let's just
Speaker 4: take this and like unpack it for a second. Maybe
Speaker 4: it was just bad acting, but this guy's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I needed a last minute Christmas gift for my son,
Speaker 4: and I went to Chinatown in this weird little Chinese
Speaker 4: kid told me to go underground, down an alleyway, through
Speaker 4: a pathway down underground into this shop with a bunch
Speaker 4: of like incense burning and a weird Chinese guy with
Speaker 4: one eye. And he told me about this cat hamster
Speaker 4: thing that could sing, couldn't get wet, I could talk,
Speaker 4: shouldn't eat after midnight, and what was the last role?
Speaker 4: Uh food, sunlight.
Speaker 5: And we can't get wet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like no questions for the Chinese guy, Like,
Speaker 4: no questions. If you went into Chinatown and you saw
Speaker 4: this fucking thing in a cage, singing, talking, looking around,
Speaker 4: looking like a half cat, half hamster, You've got no questions.
Speaker 4: You're just like, name your price. I need a gift
Speaker 4: for my kid for Christmas, this cat hamster that's singing
Speaker 4: and talking, Like like, what's going on here? He was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: that's really cool, this half cat, half hamster thing that
Speaker 4: sings and talks. But hey, would you like to buy
Speaker 4: this bathroom buddy? And then he tries to sell him
Speaker 4: this toothbrush thing like what's good? Like that's that's like
Speaker 4: your main concern after you just saw that creature. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would be facetiming people if somebody pulled that out.
Speaker 4: I'd be like, look at this, look at this thing.
Speaker 5: It sings and talks.
Speaker 4: And he was like with a mug, y comes much responsibility.
Speaker 4: I can't sell it at any price. And the little
Speaker 4: Chinese kid is like, oh, fuck him, we need the
Speaker 4: extra money. Sold it to him for like two hundred
Speaker 4: dollars or whatever, and he just takes it home. Just
Speaker 4: takes it home, no questions asked. Don't get it wet,
Speaker 4: don't feed it after midnight, and don't get it in
Speaker 4: bright lights. This thing could be like a caged monkey
Speaker 4: that when you let it out it rips your face off.
Speaker 4: No questions, unidentified creature. Somebody needs to call National Geographic
Speaker 4: on this thing. No questions asked. He puts it in
Speaker 4: the car and he takes it home to his family.
Speaker 4: I just think it's weird, Like.
Speaker 7: Is weird straight home from the wet market. Don't make it.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 6: I mean one thing I do find well, I mean
Speaker 6: I guess you're looking at the movie now too. I
Speaker 6: mean the whole idea of the Gremlins. I mean that
Speaker 6: was already like heready took that from Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: But the one thing I do find.
Speaker 6: Like interesting even with that, like in the movie, it
Speaker 6: was kind of like a plane failure, like there was
Speaker 6: mechanical failure.
Speaker 2: Going on the plane. No, I know, not all of it.
Speaker 6: It always is like that, but in the movie you
Speaker 6: always do see them also like toying around with electronic devices,
Speaker 6: the TV, the fucking toaster lights.
Speaker 5: And the dad is always making.
Speaker 6: It's always fucking shit up. So I even kind of
Speaker 6: see almost like that gremlin now crossing over into that movie.
Speaker 6: It's still closing problems with appliance. Isn't just breaking shit
Speaker 6: for no reason.
Speaker 4: Especially with like the dad's weird inventions. He's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I made a juice maker that sprays fucking pulp all
Speaker 4: over the kitchen, or like he has like, uh, something
Speaker 4: that's supposed to be a can opener. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 4: but he's just got all these inventions that don't work.
Speaker 4: And he brings the weird thing to meg yeah literally.
Speaker 8: The kids, Yeah, weird gadgets.
Speaker 4: He brings this thing to his house, wraps it up
Speaker 4: it like with wrapping paper because it don't need to
Speaker 4: breathe or anything, I guess, gives it to his kid
Speaker 4: and he's he's like, oh, is it a puppy. No,
Speaker 4: it's an unidentified creature I got from a blind Chinese
Speaker 4: man in an underground cave. In Chinatown, like no questions asked,
Speaker 4: Like that's just supposed to be normal, And he opens
Speaker 4: it up and he's like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a mug.
Speaker 4: Why And then he tries to call it the Peltzer
Speaker 4: pet like he wants to make more of them and
Speaker 4: like market them and like sell them to people. Wow,
Speaker 4: it's it's just it was weird to me, because again,
Speaker 4: what the like if somebody brought that home to you,
Speaker 4: would you just be like, yeah, let's just start trying
Speaker 4: to breed them, just like sell them to people.
Speaker 5: It's Christmas gifts.
Speaker 4: And no, no, nobody's all the National geographic on this thing.
Speaker 4: It literally talks and sings and can play the piano.
Speaker 6: I'm almost positive the name too goes back to late
Speaker 6: the spirit demon.
Speaker 3: These are the spirits right here. And if you notice,
Speaker 3: you see serpents, you see crescent moons and horns, well
Speaker 3: horns in the shape of crescent men. But you know,
Speaker 3: so you see a lot of symbolism here already. I
Speaker 3: mean that doesn't really look like what they look like
Speaker 3: in the movie. I'd like to see a movie with
Speaker 3: with these guys. This looks looks more like the teenage Mutant. Uh,
Speaker 3: teenage mutant. Who are the two guys from that one
Speaker 3: movie Oh I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, But you know, magway is Cantonese for
Speaker 6: demon of spirit a monster shut up.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's just one depiction of them.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's a spirit.
Speaker 3: Of course, it is all. All these things are spirits
Speaker 3: that physically manifest and that that's what I was saying.
Speaker 3: So when I was a kid and I saw this movie, like,
Speaker 3: it really scared me, but it just reminded me of
Speaker 3: like you know, like I said, like just this little creature,
Speaker 3: like a little elf or something. But as yeah, I
Speaker 3: kind of I think I saw it a few years
Speaker 3: ago with my son, and uh, you know I kind
Speaker 3: of got, you know, picked up on these magical little
Speaker 3: undertones here here and there that uh I should have
Speaker 3: done more research on the ancient Chinese aspect of it.
Speaker 3: But you know, bringing up the the magua being, I
Speaker 3: think that that's how you say it, right, being ancestral spirits.
Speaker 3: It goes along with what Headless was saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, do you remember the movie the Chinese movie with well,
Speaker 7: it was the Disney movie be about the Chinese girl.
Speaker 7: What was that mulan right where she's in the temple
Speaker 7: and there's all these sort of deities on the wall
Speaker 7: that's associated with their family lineage. That's sort of the
Speaker 7: same idea here, he's got it with them, so he's
Speaker 7: keeping it fat and then it's giving the family line
Speaker 7: good luck because they're like immortal beings and just as
Speaker 7: long as he goes by the rules, they keep getting
Speaker 7: good luck from it.
Speaker 3: So right, that kind of.
Speaker 4: That was like an ancestral spirit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if it's immortal and he's got to keep it
Speaker 7: with them.
Speaker 3: But with the water, you know, you see a little
Speaker 3: bit of alchemy there, like you go through this alchemical transformation. Also,
Speaker 3: you know there's an elemental aspect to it as as well.
Speaker 3: That's why I had brought up you know, are these
Speaker 3: some kind of like elemental spirit that had manifested or
Speaker 3: you know, conjured into something.
Speaker 7: It was all about the four elements, so reversed alchemy too.
Speaker 8: You know, in alchemy you get you take something black
Speaker 8: and put it through the process and whiten it and
Speaker 8: purify it. But here you had something white and purified
Speaker 8: that you had turned black.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, All the little mugwise that like popped off of
Speaker 4: Gizmo were evil from jump Street. They were like messing
Speaker 4: with the clocks in the house so they could get
Speaker 4: fed after midnight. They had like a whole agenda so
Speaker 4: they could transform, and they were all evil the ones
Speaker 4: that And.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I.
Speaker 4: Took it as this is what they were implying. But
Speaker 4: he takes one to school with him in a box
Speaker 4: and gives it to his teacher. And I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: that one killed the guy, the black guy, the professor guy.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it murdered him.
Speaker 7: Was he just so?
Speaker 4: I think I think he was the first one to die,
Speaker 4: and because he had it in a cage and it
Speaker 4: ate like a turkey sandwich or something. And when he
Speaker 4: came back into the school, it was like up in
Speaker 4: the ceiling and like jumped down on him and decapitated
Speaker 4: him or something. But it's just like it's it's one
Speaker 4: of the weirdest and of course it's Spielberg. But I
Speaker 4: think the fact that Corey Feldman is in this movie
Speaker 4: is a little bit telling, because he, of course has
Speaker 4: a lot to say, but he was so young. The
Speaker 4: Grimlins was one of his very first movies, and I
Speaker 4: actually watched his new documentary last night. It's called Corey
Speaker 4: Feldman Versus the World. You can get it on YouTube.
Speaker 4: It's like an hour and forty minutes long. I yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a money grubbing, grifting, dazzled, crotchless panty wearing like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of problems. But he does talk
Speaker 4: a lot about like the age he was when he
Speaker 4: did The Grimlins and like people messing with him and
Speaker 4: molesting him and he I mean, this was a Spielberg
Speaker 4: and he was in The Goodies, which was also a Spielberg.
Speaker 4: But I can only imagine, like what was going on, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, the guy, the the main kid in
Speaker 4: the Grimlins never really did anything after that. I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure that's the only thing I ever saw him in too,
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: Just it's all weirdness.
Speaker 8: And one thing I was thinking about as you guys
Speaker 8: are talking, Like I said, it was many years since
Speaker 8: I've seen it, But as you guys are talking, I'm getting,
Speaker 8: you know, some flashbacks and stuff. But uh, one thing
Speaker 8: that stood out to me. And tell me if I'm
Speaker 8: reaching a little bit, guys, because uh, I'm kind of
Speaker 8: new to the esoteric kind of stuff. But it's like
Speaker 8: it's almost like a duality with them. Yes, you have
Speaker 8: this you know, good wise sage, and then on the
Speaker 8: other hand, you have the evil trickster spirit. Like you said,
Speaker 8: they were changing the times on the clock, messing with
Speaker 8: all the electronics, and uh so it's kind of like
Speaker 8: this this trickster.
Speaker 3: Element to it.
Speaker 8: And you have the whole ayahuasca trips and stuff, and
Speaker 8: they talk about these uh mechanical trickster elves. You know,
Speaker 8: could this Yeah, you know, maybe so I took some
Speaker 8: some bad mushrooms or something back then and seen these
Speaker 8: little guys and maybe that was the inspiration.
Speaker 3: So I said that kind of reminded me of some
Speaker 3: dark elves or something.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, totally agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they because they they string the dog up outside
Speaker 4: and try to kill it. They just do like all
Speaker 4: kinds of weird stuff. But I do have two references.
Speaker 4: And I know it's been a while since you guys
Speaker 4: watched this, but anybody in the comments who has watched
Speaker 4: it recently will get this. But I've always talked about
Speaker 4: how I think The Wizard of Oz was probably one
Speaker 4: of the first MK ultra movies ever made.
Speaker 5: I talk about how.
Speaker 4: The colors, the storyline, the disassociation She's leaving and going
Speaker 4: to this magical place.
Speaker 5: And it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of like before Alice in Wonderland, there was Wizard of
Speaker 4: Oz for kids to watch, and it's along those same
Speaker 4: lines of like disassociation hallucinogenic weird stuff. And the beginning
Speaker 4: of the Grimlins is kind of telling the story of
Speaker 4: Dorothy and the mean lady that lived down the street
Speaker 4: that wanted to murder her dog. Do you remember that?
Speaker 4: So in Grimlins, the mean lady, the kid's dog knocked
Speaker 4: over her snowman or something. Her name's missus Deegele, and
Speaker 4: she goes and she uh finds the dog and says
Speaker 4: she wants to give it a slow, painful death and
Speaker 4: she's gonna get it and she's gonna like torture the
Speaker 4: dog and stuff like that, and she's always coming after
Speaker 4: the little boy and his dog. And she literally looks, yeah,
Speaker 4: she literally says something like that, and she looks like
Speaker 4: the Wicked Witch of the West. If you pull up
Speaker 4: Wicked Witch of the West and Missus Deegle, they both
Speaker 4: have like that long, pointy, weird nose. And I just
Speaker 4: thought it was it was odd that he would have
Speaker 4: started the movie with almost like because that's how the
Speaker 4: Wizard of Oz starts because she's like, I'll get your
Speaker 4: little dog, and then she turns into the wicked Witch
Speaker 4: of the West after she goes to Oz. And that's
Speaker 4: exactly how the Grimlin starts out. Is this mean, pointy
Speaker 4: nosed lady coming after his dog, saying she's gonna torture
Speaker 4: it and give it a slow death and she's coming
Speaker 4: after it and blah blah blah. And then later on
Speaker 4: in the movie there is a scene where they go
Speaker 4: the Grimlins like take over a movie theater and the
Speaker 4: movie they're watching is Snow White and it's about the
Speaker 4: Dwarves or the elves or whatever the fuck they are, those.
Speaker 3: Little tiny guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, it's yes. I just feel like he
Speaker 4: put little weird stuff, like a little Wizard of Oz
Speaker 4: reference and a little bit of like Alchemy reference and
Speaker 4: a little bit of Disney reference with the Snow White
Speaker 4: and the Seven.
Speaker 5: Dwarves, and uh.
Speaker 4: Then it's like Doc said, there's a trans grim in there,
Speaker 4: and there's a weird conspiracy guy that keeps saying like
Speaker 4: the government's bugged in his house, and I don't know,
Speaker 4: there's just like so much too unpack with this movie,
Speaker 4: ilog you guys go, well.
Speaker 7: In the narrative arc, you've got the idea of leaving
Speaker 7: home and going into the the call to adventure, right,
Speaker 7: so that's sort of like a departure, and then once
Speaker 7: this thing shows up, it's like they're in a different
Speaker 7: world because the rules that they used to have didn't
Speaker 7: work anymore. So in essence, it's kind of the same thing,
Speaker 7: like everything's been shifted to a different plane of existence,
Speaker 7: kind of like the Wizard of Oz. So that could
Speaker 7: be the pattern between the two of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like where's after they kind of attacked
Speaker 4: the mom in the house, where are the fuck? Where
Speaker 4: the fuck are the parents? For like the rest of
Speaker 4: the movie, right, because it's just the two older kids
Speaker 4: and they're literally downtown doing all this stuff, trying to
Speaker 4: catch all the grimlins and like cook them in microwaves
Speaker 4: and blow them up and stuff, and it's like, where
Speaker 4: are the parents when this is going on? Like literally,
Speaker 4: and he even takes Gizmo to the police station and
Speaker 4: he's like, look this, watch when I put water on
Speaker 4: it and these little things pop out and they're evil
Speaker 4: and they're taking over the town. The police officers are
Speaker 4: just like laughing, like oh ha ha. It's like, who what,
Speaker 4: Why the fuck are we not calling national geographic on
Speaker 4: this shit. It's if somebody brought that into my house,
Speaker 4: I would literally have a conniption. This is an entire
Speaker 4: mystical creature being. And they're just like, oh, it's a
Speaker 4: grimlin whatever or a mug why? Uh yeah, what the
Speaker 4: fuck is it? It's a hamster cat that sings and
Speaker 4: plays the piano. And nobody's upset about this. Nobody's upset
Speaker 4: about this.
Speaker 3: You know, I never thought about that. How they called
Speaker 3: the witch from the West the wicked one? Right, nice
Speaker 3: play on words. There another thing I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: And I know, you know, I'm the king of beating
Speaker 3: dead horses. We talk a lot about Tulpa's on my show,
Speaker 3: and this is the thing with the Grimlin, the idea
Speaker 3: of it. Uh, these kind of rules and these guidelines,
Speaker 3: it's the same idea with the tulpa. You know, you
Speaker 3: you you have the consent or you give the consent
Speaker 3: to buy this grimlin. Right, you're you're it's this transaction.
Speaker 3: You do the same thing with the tulpa when you
Speaker 3: meditate on it, right, you're consenting to creating it. Now
Speaker 3: you look away, you don't take care of this thing,
Speaker 3: you may you know. And in the case of the Grimlins,
Speaker 3: they eat after a certain time, right, they get wet,
Speaker 3: uh you know you then they start to kind of
Speaker 3: get a little uh malicious and start to have you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, act like little tricksters and whatnot. It's
Speaker 3: it's the exact same idea when it comes to the Tulpa.
Speaker 3: So interesting and.
Speaker 4: Their murder is they're literally murderous.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, doc, oh, I just want to say, there's
Speaker 8: something about that time period too, uh with these little
Speaker 8: Grimlin little monster dudes, because uh, you guys remember that film.
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, there's one of there.
Speaker 3: There's I just pulled up the depiction of one, an
Speaker 3: actual stone carving of the Magua in China. That's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a grimline.
Speaker 5: Literally heads under his paul.
Speaker 3: Right, there's an egg.
Speaker 7: There's a motif for this. Uh. The lions have their
Speaker 7: their their pause on this like what's it called flower
Speaker 7: of life motif And it's interesting that it's using that
Speaker 7: same sort of pattern and he has.
Speaker 8: That thing that things around its just that those little
Speaker 8: demon dudes off the gate, That's what I was getting
Speaker 8: at you remember that the Gates.
Speaker 2: Movie, The Gate with that hole in the backyard.
Speaker 8: You remember this, Yeah, the little brown dudes running out.
Speaker 8: I got it, I got the three bucks.
Speaker 2: I thought about covering that on the fucking show.
Speaker 6: I have tell you.
Speaker 8: That's why about it.
Speaker 2: That is funny as held you that you thought, you know,
Speaker 2: that is classic. That was like playing the record backwards
Speaker 2: and everything like, oh yeah, be gone, be gone, very pleasant.
Speaker 6: Oh but you know, I do want to kind of
Speaker 6: go back to some of that Doc was saying earlier
Speaker 6: that I was actually thinking about, as he said it
Speaker 6: kind of with.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, with the Maguay and the Gremlin.
Speaker 6: I would kind of almost look at the Maguay a
Speaker 6: little bit more like almost like the hermit, but kind
Speaker 6: of like somebody who's very b drawn, you know, not really.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go by those rules.
Speaker 6: You're not really you're not eating much, which would be
Speaker 6: kind of like a magician possibly working on something serious.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not going out as much.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you're doing an abramellin ritual, you're just
Speaker 6: stuck inside that house for fucking how long.
Speaker 2: So it's almost very like almost very like serious.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe people that are devoting themselves to a magic
Speaker 6: act or ritual. And then you have the tricksters, who,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, would almost be like the complete opposite
Speaker 6: or the person that has experienced it now and comes
Speaker 6: back and understands the joke of this reality, and they
Speaker 6: understand how to play.
Speaker 2: People and fun with people because they understand psychology. But
Speaker 2: I do see like almost like very ying.
Speaker 6: And Yang too, like saying like very extremes. You know,
Speaker 6: I see that very much.
Speaker 2: I think with those two characters.
Speaker 3: The duality. Yeah, man, the Doctor Jekyll hide thing going on, right.
Speaker 4: And I so the guy who did the soundtrack for
Speaker 4: the Grimlins I mentioned earlier. His name is Joe Dante,
Speaker 4: and I think Dante. I don't know if that's his
Speaker 4: real last name or not, but you know, sus he
Speaker 4: did the soundtrack for The Burbs, which is a movie
Speaker 4: about It's got Tom Hanks in it and Corey Feldman
Speaker 4: and it's another Spielberg and it's about a family of murderers,
Speaker 4: serial killers who move into the suburbs and all the
Speaker 4: neighbors are trying to like oust them because they feel
Speaker 4: like there's something where they're like digging graves in the
Speaker 4: backyard and shit.
Speaker 7: It's literally satanic panic the whole.
Speaker 4: Moment, Headless, have you seen it? Can you help me
Speaker 4: here describe it, because.
Speaker 7: Well, they're all convinced that these guys are like into
Speaker 7: evil shit. They start having hallucinations about it too. It's
Speaker 7: it's very strange. And the whole time they're just freaking
Speaker 7: out that there's like bodies in the backyard or they're
Speaker 7: up to really strange stuff at night. So Tom Hanks
Speaker 7: is in this total paranoia mode. And it's funny because
Speaker 7: it's right in the middle of the Satanic panic as
Speaker 7: it's going on. And I don't know, I think the
Speaker 7: Urbs maybe either it was before or maybe a little
Speaker 7: bit after the whole phenomenon, but yeah, right into that.
Speaker 4: The Burbs came after the Grimlins, and I have I
Speaker 4: don't know if I can do a share screen because
Speaker 4: I'm not logged in, but there is a scene in
Speaker 4: the Burbs where Tom Hanks is in the kitchen with
Speaker 4: Corey Feldman and they're like talking, and there is a
Speaker 4: scene where it like pans across the kitchen and it
Speaker 4: zooms in kind of on this box of cereal and
Speaker 4: it's the Grimlins and it's this. It's the Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 4: Joe Dante. He did the soundtrack for The Burbs and
Speaker 4: the Grimlins. Corey Feldman is in the Burbs and the Grimlins.
Speaker 4: And then there's this this box of cereal. It's actually
Speaker 4: so cute, but I wanted to show you. Can I
Speaker 4: do what share a screen?
Speaker 5: Let's see?
Speaker 8: Is it Captain Crunch Gremlins at least I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Did they have that? I don't remember they should. What
Speaker 2: is it again that you're looking for? Maybe I can
Speaker 2: find it.
Speaker 5: I got it right here.
Speaker 4: Can you see this? See the box of cereal in
Speaker 4: the back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Griblins.
Speaker 4: I think there's two. This is the box that's in
Speaker 4: the background, just for reference, and it's literally like consuming
Speaker 4: little mogwise.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's weird to me they made a cereal huh.
Speaker 3: It is eating itself.
Speaker 4: It's weird to me because like this scene right here,
Speaker 4: this is a completely different movie, and it's like they
Speaker 4: just put that in the background for you, those little
Speaker 4: box of Grimlins cereal, And.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like what Headless was saying.
Speaker 4: The movie has a lot of like weird occultism and
Speaker 4: like satanic panic stuff. But let me see, how do
Speaker 4: I stop?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a scene where they're in the basement and
Speaker 4: it's they're talking about do you remember this headless? And
Speaker 4: they have this big book with a bunch of occult
Speaker 4: rituals in it, and they're talking about worshiping the devil
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and literally in the background in
Speaker 4: the kitchen is this box of Grimlin cereal. And I
Speaker 4: think that they just put that in as like kind
Speaker 4: of an easter egg. Like these two things might be connected,
Speaker 4: like the stories might be similar, this story of weird
Speaker 4: satanic serial killers that live in your neighborhood and weird magical,
Speaker 4: devilish creatures that you can just bring into your house,
Speaker 4: and like, it's it's odd to me that. And Corey
Speaker 4: Feldman's in both of them, and I don't he's never
Speaker 4: said anything about Tom Hanks, but there's some weirdness that
Speaker 4: went on between those two because Tom Hanks was like,
Speaker 4: I will not be on a set with children, and
Speaker 4: they made him be on the set with children. He
Speaker 4: and he he didn't even want to do the movie
Speaker 4: because Corey Feldman was going to be in.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, what, you can't be tempted. Is that
Speaker 5: too much for you?
Speaker 4: Like, like, what the fuck is going on? I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's just weird.
Speaker 3: Dude, Oh my god. He made so Corey Feldman made
Speaker 3: this movie. It's like The Life No a Tale of
Speaker 3: two Corey's and it was about him and Corey Headless
Speaker 3: and uh, it's just it's awful, Like it's just a
Speaker 3: terrible movie. But uh he depicts like in the movie
Speaker 3: how like Corey Haym was like gay and he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Like it's really.
Speaker 3: Just like kind of a hack job on his dead friend,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I actually saw that one. It was terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was terrible.
Speaker 8: I saw like he wasn't he wouldn't do anything, was
Speaker 8: getting his hair pulled.
Speaker 3: Graphic graphic. It was fucking and you're you're thinking, like
Speaker 3: why is he portraying his friend like this? But he's
Speaker 3: like he got he only uh you know, to do
Speaker 3: it all or something, and it's like, oh, okay, why
Speaker 3: it was on the Lifetime too. I was very surprised.
Speaker 4: It was like documentary style or like a movie.
Speaker 3: It was like a documentary. Yeah, it was like yeah.
Speaker 4: Jesus, well, I mean, if you've watched that when you
Speaker 4: should just go ahead and watch this new one that
Speaker 4: just came out, because oh my.
Speaker 3: He went on Good Morning America.
Speaker 5: He got roasted by the way.
Speaker 3: He shouldn't have gone on Hes just that, I mean,
Speaker 3: he just shouldn't have been on there. I if I
Speaker 3: would raise.
Speaker 4: A million dollars, that's what he said. Oh yeah, he said,
Speaker 4: he said, I need to raise ten million dollars so
Speaker 4: I can give out the names of the people.
Speaker 7: Who tell I remember that.
Speaker 3: Everyone was like dude, yeah, no, no one.
Speaker 4: Was with his bedazzled crotch pants and his ed heart.
Speaker 3: Well, he would go and get these drug addled women
Speaker 3: off the streets of l A and then like get
Speaker 3: them on like methadone and fucking like put him in
Speaker 3: his house and then be like, okay, there's these rules.
Speaker 3: You can't eat meat, you can't do this, you have
Speaker 3: to call me like sir, and like all this really
Speaker 3: like there were some girls that that like, uh escaped.
Speaker 3: I guess you could say it's like a colt, Like seriously.
Speaker 4: They they compared him to like Charles Manson and ship
Speaker 4: And honestly, there was the yeah, they he has all
Speaker 4: these rules for the girls and and they can't like
Speaker 4: leave the bus without him, and they can't like drink
Speaker 4: water without him and like stuff. Yeah, and he calls
Speaker 4: him his angels.
Speaker 7: But you, guys, the rules, you'll you'll be a fallen angel. Guys,
Speaker 7: do you want me to read the account of the
Speaker 7: rape of Corey Haim.
Speaker 5: As by Corey Feldman.
Speaker 7: As told by Corey Feldman.
Speaker 8: Okay, I say, Julia, she's all about the anal bleeding
Speaker 8: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the b whole action we got to get into.
Speaker 5: At some point I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, are we going to go one show
Speaker 3: without talking about Phallis or buttholes?
Speaker 5: Thee hole hole for Christmas Mary?
Speaker 7: Right, we backed right into it with Corey Feldman.
Speaker 9: That's what.
Speaker 4: Literally, Oh no, okay, okay, sold by Corey Feldman.
Speaker 8: Let's hear this first time. It was the first poke.
Speaker 7: So Charlie Sheen on the set of his nineteen eighty
Speaker 7: six film Lucas Uh between two trailers where she'd allegedly
Speaker 7: bent ham over and used Crisco oil as lubricant and
Speaker 7: did it in broad daylight before did he.
Speaker 4: Chrisco for the people? Yeah, and Chris Cole So that
Speaker 4: was supposed to be Corey Haynes.
Speaker 7: Between with Crisco. Charlie she just I guess that's just
Speaker 7: not a rampict. I don't know.
Speaker 4: He went on a ram page. He rampaged through his people.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I just imagined Charlie she going there.
Speaker 7: He is grab the running out there.
Speaker 4: You had to be like, come prepared, though, if you
Speaker 4: just like had Crisco at the raining. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, you just had Crisco at the ding. I
Speaker 4: asked him for some Crisco when I was in labor.
Speaker 4: I said, you better put something down there and get
Speaker 4: some Crisco. Louve that ship up, because I ain't trying
Speaker 4: to bust my taint wide open. But they didn't have nothing.
Speaker 4: They didn't have nothing. I wish Charlie Sheen would have
Speaker 4: been there, because she would at least came prepared.
Speaker 10: Julia, Well, I'm just saying, yeah.
Speaker 4: Of course, one hundred Jules, what you've got?
Speaker 5: What was you about to say?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 3: But yeah?
Speaker 4: No, So the Grimlins, it's.
Speaker 8: Get this training back on the track.
Speaker 4: No for real, though, I do think it's a fucked
Speaker 4: up Christmas movie.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 4: It's got some occultism and ship in.
Speaker 3: It, where the Grimlins came from.
Speaker 4: Right right, that I mean, and Corey Fellman, he was
Speaker 4: so little in this movie and the the guy. Oh yes,
Speaker 4: of course we're best friends. I feel like I'm best
Speaker 4: friends with everybody that listens to my show. If you
Speaker 4: listen to my show, we would probably be best friends.
Speaker 4: Because it's either you love me or hate me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But yeah, I so just And
Speaker 4: I don't know how how much you can take his
Speaker 4: word for it, because it's, like I said, with his
Speaker 4: crotchless panties or whatever.
Speaker 5: He's just so hard for me to believe.
Speaker 4: But he said some weird stuff went on on the
Speaker 4: set of Grimlins, And obviously with the birds and the
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks thing, it's obvious, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: No references in the movie Gremlins.
Speaker 4: I bet the dad came up with like a Crisco applicator,
Speaker 4: because you know, he had the bathroom buddy and the
Speaker 4: Peltzer Peeler and the Crisco dispenser.
Speaker 3: O't Filman have like a reference in the Goonies where
Speaker 3: he refers to Martin Sheen or something. Oh, man, I
Speaker 3: wonder if they did that, like fucking with them.
Speaker 4: There is a reference. Actually, I wonder if I could
Speaker 4: google it.
Speaker 5: Hang on.
Speaker 7: Martin Sheen reference in the in the Goonies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever think.
Speaker 6: The time or anything like that has any kind of
Speaker 6: a type of cult significance?
Speaker 2: Told anything, I don't know.
Speaker 6: The whole Midnight I always wonder if it's just where
Speaker 6: they just made that up, just threw that in there.
Speaker 4: It's when they find the coin and the wishing well.
Speaker 4: They said, well, look it's Martin Sheen and he was like, no,
Speaker 4: that's President Kennedy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like, well he played Kennedy want Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's just weird though. How they? Uh was that released?
Speaker 9: There?
Speaker 3: What came first? Lucas or the or the Goonies?
Speaker 4: Uh, Grimlins came first and then Goonies.
Speaker 5: I want to.
Speaker 3: Say Lucas, but we can we can. Uh in that
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 5: About his.
Speaker 8: Lucas movie where they put the icy hot in the
Speaker 8: dude's jockstrap need he's running outside naked and stuff.
Speaker 4: Is it got Corey Feldman in it? It's got Corey
Speaker 4: haven't Oh well, oh oh, I bet he did need
Speaker 4: some icy hot after all that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was dirty kid that wanted to play football,
Speaker 8: so they probably need dock strap and just loaded it
Speaker 8: down with it.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only people that go to see Corey Feldman in
Speaker 4: concert with his angels or whatever, they all bring posters
Speaker 4: of the Goonies.
Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty sure Dan Soder and Big Jay Oakerson
Speaker 3: went with their whole like casting or their whole crew
Speaker 3: from the Bonfire back when they both did The Bonfire
Speaker 3: on Comedy Central. That's when I first I used to
Speaker 3: listen to that show sometimes because they're they went and
Speaker 3: sawn and that's when I first like saw the whole
Speaker 3: Corey Feldman the and they would like rip into him.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm laughing so hard.
Speaker 4: But they heard the ship.
Speaker 3: They all went to his concert and we're all out
Speaker 3: there just like like singing along and it's just but
Speaker 3: they were just there because they were just like, you
Speaker 3: know this, but we're here for you because someone has to.
Speaker 8: Cheer any moan just so they can get a better
Speaker 8: show to make fun of.
Speaker 3: They were live streaming it too.
Speaker 4: I think, uh yeah, well, I mean the only people
Speaker 4: who show up there are just like, oh, that's that
Speaker 4: kid from the Goonies.
Speaker 5: Like literally they're not there.
Speaker 4: He literally is so psychotic if he can't get his
Speaker 4: moves down. He'll just break out of power wheels. He'll
Speaker 4: just get on a power wheels and just like ride
Speaker 4: it to and fro across the stage a power wheels.
Speaker 5: Literally, I mean the guy, the guy.
Speaker 4: Lost his mind. But it's like the chicken or the egg.
Speaker 4: Has he lost his mind because of be whole stuff, Scott.
Speaker 5: Or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He had already lost his mind and then got be
Speaker 4: whole stuff done to him, and now he thinks he's
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson and he does this stuff. Maybe he thinks
Speaker 4: he's a kremlin.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He didn't have the glove going on too.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's got the hat and the jacket and the
Speaker 4: crotchless panties and the glove and all the stuff. And
Speaker 4: then he he says stuff like Michael Jackson was not
Speaker 4: a child molester or a pedophile. We just used to
Speaker 4: go to Disneyland together and watch pornography. Totally normal stuff
Speaker 4: to do with. You know, a forty year old guy
Speaker 4: who has a Neverland ranch and drinks milk and cookies
Speaker 4: with kids for Christmas. That's a totally normal behavior. Sleep
Speaker 4: in the bed with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know people can say all day along
Speaker 3: like MJ was. I mean, look, the media was portraying
Speaker 3: them as this this freak, this this monster, so you
Speaker 3: gotta like think, you know, can we trust what they're
Speaker 3: telling us? But then at the same time, you know,
Speaker 3: look at this guy. I mean, I feel bad because
Speaker 3: it kind of you know, it was forced on him
Speaker 3: at a very young age. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 3: know the story with Bob Hope was if you know,
Speaker 3: you know, with the Jackson five and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: what their dad did to him basically pimped him out,
Speaker 3: and the very well known politicians and uh actors and musicians.
Speaker 3: But I digress. And it's just sad, you know. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, you gotta hold them
Speaker 3: accoun because he was an adult, even though he thought
Speaker 3: he was a child. I legitimately think he thought he
Speaker 3: was a child. He was that damaged and broken from.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, he was in like a permanent disassociated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the Neberlin ranch and stuff. I really do think.
Speaker 4: I mean, just just watch any South Park episode where
Speaker 4: they're making fun of them. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 4: totally clear to me that everyone knows like he was
Speaker 4: almost insane a little bit, but he was Michael Jackson,
Speaker 4: so it was child That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 4: Borderline insanity, cutted his nose off, and then got like
Speaker 4: a plastic one stabled on. There's just so much to
Speaker 4: unpack with that guy. But Corey Feldman did say like
Speaker 4: he used to take him to Disneyland and like let
Speaker 4: him buy whatever, and then would go back to his
Speaker 4: house and they watch pornography together and drink milk and
Speaker 4: cookies and have a sleepover in his bed.
Speaker 5: But he wasn't a molester.
Speaker 4: It's like, come on, man, like that. If I found
Speaker 4: out anybody did that with my.
Speaker 3: Kid, oh yeah, he his head would be on a
Speaker 3: pipe saying.
Speaker 4: Right, you know.
Speaker 7: But here's an angle. So let's say that maybe this
Speaker 7: was Corey Feldman's image of cool was a guy who
Speaker 7: did that, And so a guy who never grows up,
Speaker 7: who you know, watches porn whenever he wants to and
Speaker 7: then has milk and cookies, and then maybe that's the
Speaker 7: guy he became for the rest of his life. Is
Speaker 7: that very person. That's why he's still dressing up cool
Speaker 7: mimix a cooler.
Speaker 3: He dresses the way he dances in his music videos
Speaker 3: like it's all Michael Jackson. Like you could say, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, So you have a part of Michael, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, attached to him spiritually?
Speaker 5: I think I think, yeah, oh, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, you know does that that you know, are they summoning?
Speaker 3: Are they summoning Michael's ghosts?
Speaker 7: Did you see the video of the burn victim that
Speaker 7: was interviewed after Michael's Michael's death that exactly like him.
Speaker 3: His name was Dave. Dave, Yeah, and yeah, No, you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right. And I was gonna say if he's even dead, right,
Speaker 3: because you got to ask that question these people.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, if death mm hmmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he made it, maybe made it like a
Speaker 4: weird Faustian bargain, because I don't know how long you
Speaker 4: can live as Michael Jackson. I don't think he was
Speaker 4: allowed to like leave his house and shit like that.
Speaker 4: But I also know there was something weird about the
Speaker 4: doctor who gave him like that last dose or whatever.
Speaker 4: Maybe he dosed him up a little too much on purpose.
Speaker 7: Yell the courtroom, the courtroom for his trial. That just
Speaker 7: sort of sealed the deal for me because I went
Speaker 7: back and watched some of those videos. The entire courtroom
Speaker 7: is filled with stuffed animals. They don't do that, and
Speaker 7: this is a murder trial. And then if you look
Speaker 7: at the seal behind his head, like they don't have
Speaker 7: the right number of stars for the actual state of California,
Speaker 7: so they're just from it. Yeah, the whole thing's fake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost as if there is this like shelf
Speaker 3: life to his persona and he had to die. There
Speaker 3: had to be that mass energy drain of the world, right,
Speaker 3: I mean you have to say billions of people were
Speaker 3: affected by that, not I because I was never a
Speaker 3: fan of Michael Jackson. Same thing with the Beatles eyes,
Speaker 3: it's just not good music to me. Sorry, fair enough.
Speaker 7: I think what he did was he just figured, you know,
Speaker 7: I either do this or they're gonna do it to me,
Speaker 7: so right as well fake it myself. And so the
Speaker 7: guy the doctor supposedly got convicted but never did a
Speaker 7: single day of time, like it was all commuted sentence.
Speaker 4: Well, and there's someone in the comments who just said
Speaker 4: autopsy doc was the same one from George Floyd.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 6: That is wild because even George Floyd that that same
Speaker 6: person also lines up with a lady bird Lake, a
Speaker 6: smiley faced killer Browning. What that's like three three cases
Speaker 6: now that that same person cases.
Speaker 2: That's a shady motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's like the three strikes rule.
Speaker 5: Right after three strikes.
Speaker 3: They take you out after you kill three people or
Speaker 3: they program you too.
Speaker 9: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, I'll give you one suspicious death, maybe
Speaker 4: two suspicious deaths, but you get to three and it's like, Nope,
Speaker 4: you're confirmed in on this shit.
Speaker 3: That's his career, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4: How many bodies have to pile up before we're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: definitely they're in on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, but yeah no, oh go ahead.
Speaker 6: Nick Random weird, weird, I guess fun fact with the
Speaker 6: movie Gremlins. I didn't know that that and Ghostbusters came
Speaker 6: out in the same night too, the same night.
Speaker 4: Why would Ghostbusters come out during? Did it come out
Speaker 4: for Christmas? What month did it come out? Because that's
Speaker 4: like a Halloween movie and a Christmas movie coming out
Speaker 4: and like the same night.
Speaker 5: That's weird.
Speaker 6: June eight eight, nineteen eighty four and open Ghostbusters Ghosts
Speaker 6: versus Grunnings.
Speaker 4: Why would you put, why would you release a Halloween
Speaker 4: movie in a Christmas movie in June in the middle
Speaker 4: of the fucking summer when nobody wants to see that ship.
Speaker 5: That's not good marketing to me. But I mean, I guess.
Speaker 8: Burning up in July thinking of cooler weather to come.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I guess, so, I guess so. I just
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't release a Christmas movie or a Halloween movie
Speaker 4: in the middle of June.
Speaker 2: I don't know. They could have been even marketing reasons
Speaker 2: for all that.
Speaker 7: Do you know what movie I want to break down
Speaker 7: when it comes to like symbolism, Last Action Hero with
Speaker 7: Arnold Schwarzenegger. Ever since you guys ever seen that one?
Speaker 2: Think of that as a.
Speaker 4: You've got somebody said, say, Julia, that's so nice of you,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 7: Is it your birthday?
Speaker 4: My birthday is November thirtieth, So maybe they didn't see
Speaker 4: me before now and they're just saying.
Speaker 2: Thank you, good to see.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I just think it. I just wanted
Speaker 4: to do something fun for Christmas, though, and I thought
Speaker 4: this movie was especially like drenched in weirdness, you know,
Speaker 4: compared to what Christmas with the Cranks, there's not there's
Speaker 4: not a lot of like good Christmas movies to break down.
Speaker 4: I mean the Crampis Crampis.
Speaker 3: We could even I was going to say, you couldn't
Speaker 3: do it to YouTube. You can always do a watch
Speaker 3: party of Crampis.
Speaker 5: Frampis is a weird story for sure.
Speaker 3: The vocal behind it's even weirder.
Speaker 8: You know, I got a whole chapter about him in
Speaker 8: the book.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, it's the duality of Santa, right, It's the
Speaker 3: it's dark side to Santa, his shadows A wow. Man? Yeah, man, what.
Speaker 4: About did you guys see I think it came out
Speaker 4: last year actually Jack Black and it was called Satan Clause.
Speaker 8: Did you see remember that?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, Jack black Is.
Speaker 4: He's trash, he's turned. I mean I used to love
Speaker 4: watching School.
Speaker 6: Uh uh shallow wow.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a few movies that I really liked
Speaker 3: him inn but you know, he's just he's just.
Speaker 4: A oh my gosh. Teresa said, Julia, didn't we do
Speaker 4: a Crampis episode a couple of years ago? I totally
Speaker 4: forgot about that ship. Thank you for reminding me. We
Speaker 4: definitely did do a Crampis episode. I think actually Teresa
Speaker 4: talked about it I didn't because I looked up something else,
Speaker 4: but I think we did, like weird traditions for christ
Speaker 4: Smith's or something like that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's me and Teresa and a couple other people, but yeah,
Speaker 4: So that Satan Clause movie is about like a dyslexic
Speaker 4: kid writing a letter to Santa and instead of putting Santa,
Speaker 4: he puts Satan. And then Jack Black's supposed to be
Speaker 4: the devil and he shows up and he like gives
Speaker 4: him some wishes or something like that. Yeah, for kids,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's another movie that came out with the
Speaker 3: dude from Stranger Things, a guy that plays the cop.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He's a fucking communist faggot. I mean he's that like
Speaker 3: and and he's he's he's a bitch. But uh, he's
Speaker 3: a good actor, you know, but he he was Santa.
Speaker 3: And in this one movie, I don't I think was
Speaker 3: it called Deck the Halls maybe or something. Shit, he's
Speaker 3: killing everybody. It's just it's just.
Speaker 5: It's a kid's movie, you know.
Speaker 3: No, but it's just like why, I don't know, just
Speaker 3: bastardization of culture. I mean they've already bastardized it, you know,
Speaker 3: as much as they can. A good scary Christmas movie
Speaker 3: Jack Frost about Snowman and the serial Killer. It's very uh,
Speaker 3: I forgot that, very similar to Chucky the serial Killer.
Speaker 3: U Snowman. Well, they're in they're transporting him, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he gets uh, you know, like they have a wreck
Speaker 3: and then he gets covered in all this like acid
Speaker 3: or something and melts into the snow and then reincarnates
Speaker 3: as the Snowman. And it is so good. I saw
Speaker 3: in the third fourth grade. Scared these ship out of me.
Speaker 4: I totally forgot about that one. That one's on Hulu
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 5: Shouldn't watch who cares.
Speaker 3: At at a friend's house, shouldn't have watched it.
Speaker 7: So have you guys seen the cramp best parades that
Speaker 7: they go on over in Austria all.
Speaker 3: That Adam Green had posted, uh that he was over
Speaker 3: there and he.
Speaker 7: At they're spreading the demons. Yeah, they're starting to do
Speaker 7: in more cities. There's one in Richmond, Virginia. There's one
Speaker 7: in Des Moines, Iowa. There's one did you say it
Speaker 7: was in Georgia?
Speaker 8: Atlanta?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Atlanta. Yeah, So that's spreading.
Speaker 4: Because he's like what he's supposed to be like unchained right,
Speaker 4: and he's like let loose.
Speaker 3: Well on some cultures, you know, the kids, I think
Speaker 3: they enjoy it. You know, my daughter likes it when
Speaker 3: I like, like, I don't know, do scary faces with
Speaker 3: her and stuff. It's real weird, it's it's odd, but
Speaker 3: she thinks it's funny. So some kids are I think, uh, well,
Speaker 3: if you don't like I don't know, I think if
Speaker 3: you let him see too much horror, you know, then
Speaker 3: they'll start to But I mean some things, you know,
Speaker 3: just I think it's good. Maybe if they don't perceive
Speaker 3: some things as like monster verifying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 4: I guess we should go around for Christmas and just
Speaker 4: say what our favorite Christmas movie is.
Speaker 5: Doc You Go.
Speaker 8: First, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck you, you stole my Leave the Neck for
Speaker 4: Me Clark, Yeah, that is my absolute favorite Christmas movie.
Speaker 7: Edless you go, I don't know, pass gome back to me.
Speaker 5: Okay, and mind you this.
Speaker 4: You can only watch one Christmas movie for the rest
Speaker 4: of your life forever. This is the one Christmas movie.
Speaker 4: So don't say something shitty like Christmas with the Cranks. Okay,
Speaker 4: really think about the it could be Santa Claus with
Speaker 4: Tim Allen loved that when I was little. It could
Speaker 4: be literally home alone whatever.
Speaker 5: Christmas story.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say bad Santa. But it's
Speaker 3: a wonderful life. Oh, very very cliche. But movie makes
Speaker 3: me cry every time I watch it, and it's very
Speaker 3: It's a little esoteric as well, if you if you
Speaker 3: pay attention, especially when they're like talking as like in
Speaker 3: the Constellations as angels, it's like the actual depiction of
Speaker 3: what you like. I don't know. Uh, very interesting, but I.
Speaker 5: Love that answer.
Speaker 4: That's so classy of the Jewels.
Speaker 5: I was not expecting that.
Speaker 3: Pretty cliche. But I was going to say bad Santa
Speaker 3: because I just when I think Christmas, I think of
Speaker 3: that movie and just the relationship between him and the
Speaker 3: kid is one of the funniest things. Ever, how the
Speaker 3: kid is is just like.
Speaker 9: What about Jesus and Joseph and Mary and the donkey
Speaker 9: and the talking walnut or something, And he's just like,
Speaker 9: what the fuck is wrong with you kids?
Speaker 3: So fucking funny. Section scene is Granny's fry.
Speaker 5: Nick you have to go now.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I probably say maybe a Christmas Story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that one too.
Speaker 3: That mm hmm, yeah you do.
Speaker 8: It's a major award.
Speaker 4: Oh, Teresa said the night before. I haven't watched that yet.
Speaker 4: I love that one. It's got like uh Seth Rogan and.
Speaker 5: The one guy's name from Oh what is it? He's
Speaker 5: like a famous guy.
Speaker 3: Hang on.
Speaker 5: The Night Before I got to.
Speaker 8: Is so uh hot dealer.
Speaker 7: It's got to be my favorite Christmas It's a good one.
Speaker 7: Home alone. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They it has a solid soundtrack. I will, I will
Speaker 4: give you that it has. Oh yes, George Joseph Gordon Lovitt.
Speaker 4: Sorry blanked on that.
Speaker 3: Yes, the night great movie. Muppet Christmas Carol. I just
Speaker 3: watch Underrated. Yeah it's so good, dude. The music in it,
Speaker 3: like everything about it is so good.
Speaker 4: I love the Muppets, my favorite Christmas Carol.
Speaker 3: My kids won't watch it. It's like it's like, damn man,
Speaker 3: it's a different time. Yeah, man, I know, it's weird.
Speaker 4: Muppets Christmas Carol is my favorite Christmas Carol. They do
Speaker 4: have one with Jim Carrey, but it's and it's like
Speaker 4: animated and it's pretty good, but it's not like the Muppets.
Speaker 5: The Muppets is my favorite.
Speaker 7: The most bizarre Christmas movie unintentionally has got to be
Speaker 7: Polar Express.
Speaker 3: What I just Okay, first of all, just watched it
Speaker 3: two nights ago, and he's just about to say, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I give you the creeps I never did before from
Speaker 3: this movie. And but and because I had uh just
Speaker 3: watched this thing on the similarities between Odin and Santa,
Speaker 3: and so it's I just I saw a lot of
Speaker 3: symbolism in the movie. I was like, wow, dude, this
Speaker 3: and then the soundtrack to that is awesome. I think
Speaker 3: it's very Christmas y uh and gives you holiday cheer.
Speaker 3: But it's a great movie.
Speaker 5: They have this.
Speaker 4: I just went with my sister literally yesterday, and I
Speaker 4: took baby Hankster with me. He obviously got overstimulated because
Speaker 4: he's two months old.
Speaker 5: But they put you on a train and they.
Speaker 4: Literally have decorated it like Polar Express, and they play
Speaker 4: the music and they do like all the hot chocolate,
Speaker 4: and they bring you hot chocolate, and they bring you
Speaker 4: snacks and stuff and that you get a bell at
Speaker 4: the end of your trip on the train or whatever.
Speaker 4: It takes you to the North Pole, and all the
Speaker 4: little kids were like, oh, this is cool. This is
Speaker 4: so fun, and all the adults that are our age,
Speaker 4: we're having way the fuck more fun because first off,
Speaker 4: we understand the concept of what we're doing. Second off,
Speaker 4: we've watched Polar Express a million times and they even
Speaker 4: have like the conductor all aboad and yeah, sure the
Speaker 4: kids have fun, but the parents were all having a
Speaker 4: fucking blast.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, this is I can't believe about the Polar Express.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just think it's weird because it's supposed to be
Speaker 4: for kids and they were having fun. But it was
Speaker 4: like all the like parents our age who have watched
Speaker 4: it like year after year after year, who were actually
Speaker 4: having the best time.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my.
Speaker 7: God, it's got to be the biggest mk ultra movie
Speaker 7: of all time.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, with Tom Hanks and everything. Kolbe won't
Speaker 4: even let me play it in the house.
Speaker 7: Well fuck you hard.
Speaker 3: Well I like it, and so.
Speaker 2: I never saw the movie.
Speaker 3: Shut up either really get those vibes from it. But
Speaker 3: I can see I can see, uh, I can see
Speaker 3: what you mean.
Speaker 4: I bet if you watched it, you would pick out
Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff from it, even ruined.
Speaker 7: Your childhood let me pause the movie and tell you
Speaker 7: exactly what's going on as they're going through it, because
Speaker 7: that's it's rough.
Speaker 3: Express so like trafficking children on orphan train.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it the orphan train thing?
Speaker 7: The whole fucking thing. It's all like if think about
Speaker 7: the motifs that you get from the Wizard of Oz
Speaker 7: and uh, you know Dorothy, No, not Dorothy, the one
Speaker 7: where she goes into the rabbit hole. What was that,
Speaker 7: Alison Alice in Wonderland. It's the same type of movie,
Speaker 7: and they're just packing in a bunch of stuff to
Speaker 7: make the subject more pliant along the way. That's what
Speaker 7: the movie's about. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can totally catch that program.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can totally get that vibe from that.
Speaker 5: Incubator. Baby's Galore, said someone in the chat.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have not seen that one.
Speaker 4: You should watch it, just because I think you would,
Speaker 4: as someone who dissects stuff, you would like it. I
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of little stuff in there, just
Speaker 4: especially with Tom Hanks. He plays like four different characters,
Speaker 4: and he's Santa, you know what I'm saying. He plays
Speaker 4: like a homeless guy, he plays the conductor, he plays Santa. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's the Homeless guy too.
Speaker 7: Got a lot of disguise.
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I feel little differently now why because of the homeless.
Speaker 3: It does that? Because of Tom Tom Hanks, I'm not
Speaker 3: a I can't watch Toy Story anymore. You know, you know,
Speaker 3: you know the guy's true nature. You know, dude's fucking
Speaker 3: sick of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no ship.
Speaker 4: But that's also why I brought up the Burbs with
Speaker 4: Corey Feldman, because he did that right after Grimlin's and
Speaker 4: they put that Grimlin cereal box in that movie, and
Speaker 4: it was all about like weird satanic serial killers and
Speaker 4: like just a bunch of weird stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, we should. We should ruin your entire childhood.
Speaker 7: Let's do a watch along party of Polar Express. I
Speaker 7: just hit the pause bus.
Speaker 3: It wasn't really my childhood per se. It was more
Speaker 3: of my little brother's childhood. I was a teenager. But
Speaker 3: would you all consider Harry Potter a Christmas movie?
Speaker 4: I think that's a that's the question of the season,
Speaker 4: because I watch it for Halloween. Oh well, yep. I
Speaker 4: watched one through seven.
Speaker 3: Well before Christmas, Christmas or Christmas Halloween Christmas.
Speaker 7: You think both.
Speaker 4: Both because it starts off with this is Halloween, This
Speaker 4: is Halloween, and then by the end of it you're like,
Speaker 4: I can't wait for Christmas, right, so it could it
Speaker 4: could double.
Speaker 5: I mean Grimlins can double.
Speaker 4: Die Hard, Uh Christmas?
Speaker 7: Yeah, how long They've just been selling NonStop Nightmare before Christmas?
Speaker 7: Merch Dude.
Speaker 4: If I see a fat lady at Walmart with Jack
Speaker 4: Skellington leggings on, I just leave.
Speaker 5: I just leave.
Speaker 4: I'm so sick of it. I can't take one more
Speaker 4: Jack Skellington merch item in my life. I don't want
Speaker 4: to see it on people. I don't want it in
Speaker 4: my house.
Speaker 7: I don't want it ever anywhere.
Speaker 4: I'm sick of seeing it. I'm sick to death of
Speaker 4: seeing it. It's always a blue haired lady with long
Speaker 4: pit hair. And if Jack Skellington Stanley Cup and I
Speaker 4: just can not. I mean, they must make a million
Speaker 4: dollars off that movie. It's like, out of all the
Speaker 4: Tim Burton movies, I think I would like to see
Speaker 4: Corpse Bride a little bit more, or any of them,
Speaker 4: Edward Scissorhands, Beetlejuice, But it's always Jack Skellington, Right, it's
Speaker 4: always Jack Skellington.
Speaker 7: Because it merches both holidays.
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, Edward scissor Hands is a Christmas movie,
Speaker 4: so debate me on that.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: He cuts up the ice at the end and the
Speaker 4: little snowflakes and all the ship in the Christmas tree.
Speaker 4: You remember. So Edward Scissorhands, unpopular opinion, is also a
Speaker 4: Christmas movie for anybody out there wants a little darkness
Speaker 4: for Christmas.
Speaker 6: The Rings trilogy that come out around Christmas.
Speaker 3: A little of The Rings and I think it's some more.
Speaker 5: M not as much as.
Speaker 2: Die Hard Christmas, of.
Speaker 8: Course, some planes, trains and automobiles Christmas.
Speaker 9: Trying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people really like love actually for Christmas. I'm
Speaker 4: not I love actually kind of gal or what are
Speaker 4: some of those dopey ones. There's one with.
Speaker 3: Like oh the family Stone.
Speaker 5: Oh the Family Stone.
Speaker 2: You like that Family Stone?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Watch it with my mother in law and my wife.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say that's definitely a female pick.
Speaker 3: It's a good movie, dude. The fucking mom gets breast cancer.
Speaker 7: It's set.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really sad.
Speaker 3: It's like God and uh and uh the Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a good movie. It's a good movie for family guys.
Speaker 3: Screwge Man and he watched that with my son. I
Speaker 3: think he liked that.
Speaker 2: Now that I thought had some.
Speaker 5: I did too.
Speaker 4: I just watched it last night. It's on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 4: Oh mm hmm, yeah, it's free on Amazon Prime. Somebody
Speaker 4: should just hit me up. I know where all the
Speaker 4: Christmas movies are for free.
Speaker 3: A good movie to Rise of the Guardians with Santa
Speaker 3: and he's like all tat it up. And then you
Speaker 3: got The Easter Bunny. The you have the Tooth Fairy,
Speaker 3: Sandman and Jack Frost and they're fighting this guy named
Speaker 3: pitch Black and it's so it's very uh probably a
Speaker 3: lot of esoteric themes in that movie as well. A
Speaker 3: great kids movie though, and it's a it's a Christmas movie.
Speaker 3: I'd say it's a Christmas movie, but they basically guard
Speaker 3: uh like I don't know, they guard like the Holidays.
Speaker 3: I don't know. They had their own realms and uh,
Speaker 3: you know they exist, how much she believe in them?
Speaker 4: Was it on Netflix?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Okay, never mind, if it's.
Speaker 3: It may have a long a while ago, but but
Speaker 3: it's not on Netflix anymore.
Speaker 5: Were they murderers.
Speaker 4: Wait what, No, Okay, no, I'm thinking of something else.
Speaker 4: Se you look how twisted my mind is. I watched something.
Speaker 4: I've watched something on Netflix that sounds like and they
Speaker 4: show up and they kill the kids. Okay, yep, see
Speaker 4: this is a totally different thing.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to but uh no, Wow?
Speaker 4: How old is too old to still be believing in Santa?
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I've talked about my experience with Santa.
Speaker 8: It's not real.
Speaker 5: Doc, shut your mouth.
Speaker 9: Doc?
Speaker 5: Is Santa my mad.
Speaker 3: Or do we just perceive him as Santa? You know?
Speaker 3: He is Santa.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 4: I found a bunch of presents in my mom's closet.
Speaker 4: That's how I knew.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, it was because of that too. Honestly, I
Speaker 2: think it was because they sort of fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, what's already here?
Speaker 4: Headless never believed in Santa? Look at his face?
Speaker 7: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I figured that.
Speaker 8: I went along with it because I wanted the extra
Speaker 8: presents with Headless.
Speaker 3: If you believe in Santa, you know you'll you'll get
Speaker 3: some extra gifts. You just gotta have faith.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, my parents were strict Christians. They
Speaker 7: didn't believe in telling kids about Santa.
Speaker 4: Really, my parents were Pentecostals, and they was all up
Speaker 4: in Santa's bieh hole. They was putting out milk and
Speaker 4: cookies and little reindeer snacks and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: It was put the reindeer food out, a little reindeers.
Speaker 3: Now I drink the milk for my kids.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, those are classics.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Santa Claus is coming to town. I love
Speaker 4: that one.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, what what's what's another?
Speaker 5: Both of those are free on on Hulu.
Speaker 8: By the way, what about Christmas songs?
Speaker 4: I like to go classic, like so you should appreciate
Speaker 4: this doc.
Speaker 5: But like that one.
Speaker 4: I think it's Ray Charles Spirit of Christmas from National
Speaker 4: Lampoons when he's up in the attic watching like the
Speaker 4: Old Home movies.
Speaker 5: That's like my.
Speaker 4: Ultimate favorite Christmas song. That and like Carol of the
Speaker 4: Bells mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Charlie Brown Christmas. It's a classic to Charlie Christmas.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. Man.
Speaker 5: You have to say your favor.
Speaker 4: I have to say your favorite, yeah, your favorite Christmas
Speaker 4: song and then sing it with the elf hat on.
Speaker 3: I can't. I have to have to take the hat
Speaker 3: off and do the jingle. I have a bell, I
Speaker 3: have a whole percussion. I having two drum sets over here.
Speaker 3: I don't know, put me on the spot, you know.
Speaker 4: Uh, you can only listen to it for every Christmas
Speaker 4: for the rest of forever. And if it's last Christmas
Speaker 4: by Waam, that's okay, or if it's Mariah Carey, we're
Speaker 4: kicking you off the podcast.
Speaker 7: I want Christmas.
Speaker 2: That's one of them that we just can't deal with.
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably something that Bing Crosby saying.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh yeah, from your favorite movie.
Speaker 8: The Rape, such one, the rape.
Speaker 5: The rape song. Maybe it's cold outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where are you guys laughing?
Speaker 5: That is the rape song?
Speaker 7: Corey Feldman, do you think that's what happened? Cory hay
Speaker 7: A baby listens to it.
Speaker 5: He listens to it every year.
Speaker 4: It's been putting the hip in row hip no since
Speaker 4: nineteen forty two or whatever whenever the fucking came out.
Speaker 11: Like baby, it's warm inside, right, But now I have
Speaker 11: to watch maybe your back door man.
Speaker 5: Back door saying it.
Speaker 8: I want to be your back.
Speaker 3: I have to go back and rewatch Gremlins.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, everybody should rewatch it because it's it's definitely
Speaker 4: full of weird stuff and it's it's one of my
Speaker 4: faves for Christmas. But uh yeah, we can wrap it
Speaker 4: up whenever. That's really all I had for you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that was great. That was fun. Definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely a cult on the tones in that movie for sure.
Speaker 5: I think so too.
Speaker 3: And we learned about the magua. There's always some ancient
Speaker 3: folklore behind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't buy your kids Christmas presents from a one eyed,
Speaker 4: blind Chinese man in an alleyway, Yo.
Speaker 3: Reminds me a lot of the la booboo thing if
Speaker 3: you think about it, the gremlin.
Speaker 4: What's a boo boo?
Speaker 3: Thet boo boo little things that all the all the
Speaker 3: rappers carry around.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is it.
Speaker 3: Never mind, you guys don't know what the la booboo is.
Speaker 3: They're the little they're the little like for their fucking demons.
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're these little creatures that people carry
Speaker 3: around on like their belt and stuff. Look it up.
Speaker 3: It's real weird.
Speaker 4: And uh like little spiritual totem things that they Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think there's something else to it, especially with the
Speaker 3: name La Boo Boo. It comes from U I did.
Speaker 3: I went on nephliin dev Squad and we talked about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the ones I'm seeing they look very cartoony. Well,
Speaker 6: they almost look like pikachus.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're kind of like horns, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody said that the.
Speaker 8: They look like forstic Grin.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Ferbies. That's another Grimlin offshoot, right, you have
Speaker 3: a Ferbie in the bedroom and like three in the
Speaker 3: morning is just.
Speaker 1: Like I love you.
Speaker 5: That mine did that too. It would just go off randomly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Gremlin little mm hmm, married.
Speaker 3: Little uns Grimlin, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: You think like the the Gremlins were like almost like
Speaker 6: uh like reptilian like for the conspiracy guy.
Speaker 7: Both they were, you know, they had the idea of
Speaker 7: being warm blooded and reptilian and at the same time.
Speaker 5: Yes, shape shifters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody should go back and watch it, especially since
Speaker 4: it's free on Hulu right now, you have no excuse whatsoever.
Speaker 3: No someone saying it's a Celtic spirit. Mm hmm. This
Speaker 3: thing right here, I think I think that's what young
Speaker 3: Stitches is saying. I'm pretty sure, you're right, But anyway,
Speaker 3: that's a whole y'all should look into that. It's pretty
Speaker 3: interesting if you have time.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, they don't look. They don't look. They look for.
Speaker 8: Real evil, very creepy.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not getting one.
Speaker 8: Greens told my son, look, no.
Speaker 5: I don't want a boo boo. I don't want one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had We had done an episode on it stitches.
Speaker 3: You can go watch. I don't know which one I
Speaker 3: had done. Is flow death Squad but interesting topic. But yeah, guys,
Speaker 3: this was fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah I had fun to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they thank you all for jumping on.
Speaker 6: Also, tomorrow we're gonna be uh at four thirty, we're
Speaker 6: going live with Greg from a Cult of Personality.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty pretty big cult podcast.
Speaker 6: It's been around for a long time, so if people
Speaker 6: want to check that out, we do have that going
Speaker 6: live tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure I plug that Nick.
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive to get that guy.
Speaker 6: So is our stro live tomorrow and oh yeah, somewhere
Speaker 6: I totally forget the Vulging podcast. I think me and
Speaker 6: Jules are going live at two o'clock with him. I
Speaker 6: think he already has us up on YouTube. Already. Okay,
Speaker 6: check that out. Cool and then at four thirty the
Speaker 6: Occult Rejects has u. Yeah, Greg from a cult of personality,
Speaker 6: so interesting, should be fun. Uh and thank you all
Speaker 6: everybody in the chat.
Speaker 2: That's what's up. There was a lot of people here
Speaker 2: bullshit and chopping it up. Julia, thank you very much.
Speaker 6: I really appreciate you bringing up the idea and getting
Speaker 6: this all together. Let everybody know where they can find
Speaker 6: all your amazing stuff.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't usually like take the time to plug properly,
Speaker 4: so let me just take a second. I'm not on
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Speaker 5: I love you, stop it.
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Speaker 2: So thank you for having me, Nick, of course, no,
Speaker 2: thank you, Julia always appreciated my man Headle's Giant. What
Speaker 2: is up, sir?
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Speaker 2: Thank you, yeah, thank you very much. And we got
Speaker 2: Jules what is going on?
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Speaker 7: Uh anytime spot I'll be there.
Speaker 3: Oh, in Austin Picard on January ninth. Everybody is going
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Speaker 3: Let's fucking go anyway again. Thank you Nick for for
Speaker 3: hosting this tonight.
Speaker 2: This was fun of course. Place.
Speaker 3: Oh and me and Dot got a show coming soon.
Speaker 3: He has He's he he's going to be dropping our
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Speaker 3: So did Julia.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know I saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so y'all, y'all go check that out. If
Speaker 3: y'all y'all have.
Speaker 6: It yet, good stuffs, good stuff for sure. And Doc Brown,
Speaker 6: thank you so much man for jumping on and joining
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Speaker 8: So it was a pleasure, no, man, I appreciate the invite. Man.
Speaker 8: I don't get many opportunities to sit down and hang
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Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's great stuff. Man. Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 2: But dude, I always appreciate it.
Speaker 6: And uh, yeah you helly, thanks yeah uh and again
Speaker 6: thanks to chat everybody. But I was here from the
Speaker 6: beginning to end.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of you. That's why we do it.
Speaker 2: And uh, until the next one. Everybody be well later
Speaker 2: it just might be a grimlin in your house. Put
Speaker 2: to gre