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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't turned down those jukeakes?

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<v Speaker 4>How does Sasa Jonnithan Diasberry jukes?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, this is Tom Chapin.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, this is preaching in Rock and Roll History Show.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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<v Speaker 2>Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about old stuff thanks to Mercedes, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>I took a different interpretation than everybody else did. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna have to sit and wait and see

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<v Speaker 2>how that turns out. But before we hop in as always,

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<v Speaker 2>allow me to introduce all the crambones who are joining

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<v Speaker 2>us here tonight. First and foremost from the Richter Observatory.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a fear of really tall people. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>fee fi phobia.

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<v Speaker 4>E five four. How you doing, everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>And from paranormally yours, she figured out that pirates never

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<v Speaker 2>finish the alphabet because they keep getting lost at sea. Gil.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to try to remember that one because I

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<v Speaker 3>have a friend who's older.

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<v Speaker 4>He go as a pirate.

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<v Speaker 7>You need to center.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that just opens up more questions, doesn't it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's come back to that, all right, welcome back, and

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<v Speaker 2>from the silver screen she saw a Buddhist walk into

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<v Speaker 2>a bar until the bartender make me one with everything.

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<v Speaker 8>Mercedes here, Wow, that's a good one. Brian, Hey, everybody,

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<v Speaker 8>very teep.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, though right, we try to make you think around here.

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<v Speaker 2>And our officially retired teacher, he wanted to try planting

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<v Speaker 2>an apple tree, but he was nervous. He wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 2>about it, so his wife told him to grow a pair.

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<v Speaker 2>John Kelly is here.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh boy, ouch, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody? At last, but not least, the host of shaving cream.

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<v Speaker 2>She recently asked the toy store clerk where the Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>Schwarzenegger action figures were. He said, I'll be back barbarveal.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, Hey, everybody, all right. So Mercedes came up with

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<v Speaker 2>tonight's topic. I don't know how. It's just old. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the one word to go on, was old.

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<v Speaker 4>Old.

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<v Speaker 2>So did something happen that kind of prompted that or.

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<v Speaker 8>There's no perspective none whatsoever. It just popped into my

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<v Speaker 8>head and I was like, well, we haven't done that,

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<v Speaker 8>so let's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true we haven't done that. And yeah, so knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming. I don't know the stories. I know the

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<v Speaker 2>tracks that everybody picked. Mineus so far the outlier for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody that, yeah, bless you exactly we are.

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<v Speaker 8>We are all curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well why don't we hop in? And this week, Neil,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to lead us off?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's age before beauty, right, Yes, indeed, And for

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<v Speaker 4>this topic, no one here amongst the crambones is more

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<v Speaker 4>qualified to speak on the subject of being old than

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<v Speaker 4>I am myself. I am the septagenarian of the group

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<v Speaker 4>that say that five times fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're the only one who uses s A T

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<v Speaker 2>words in the whole group too.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, it's the glorious results of a misspent youth. What

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<v Speaker 4>can I say? Anyway? The song I picked is called

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<v Speaker 4>The Old Man Down the Road by John Fogerty now

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<v Speaker 4>John Cameron Fogerty born in nineteen forty five is an

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<v Speaker 4>American musician, singer, and songwriter. Now Fogerty began his musical

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<v Speaker 4>career way back in nineteen fifty nine. Now that's going

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<v Speaker 4>that's old baby when he was a.

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<v Speaker 8>Junior and I remember it well.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually so do I. But anyway, his first band was

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<v Speaker 4>in junior high school. It was a cover band that

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<v Speaker 4>was inspired by the rock and roll pioneers, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Chuck Berry and all that. Elvis along with bassist Stu Cook,

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<v Speaker 4>drummer Doug Clifford, and a little bit later on his

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<v Speaker 4>brother Tom. So I think you can see where this

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<v Speaker 4>might be going. They were originally called the Blue Velvets

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<v Speaker 4>and they signed The band signed with Fantasy Records in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen sixty four. Now, unbeknownst the Blue Velvets, Fantasy Records

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<v Speaker 4>changed their name to the Gollywogs against their better judgment

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. They recorded several singles that frankly were not

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<v Speaker 4>all that successful, although they did have one called fight

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<v Speaker 4>Fire that I've heard and I actually liked that. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's neither here nor there. Because this, of course laid

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<v Speaker 4>the groundwork, laid the foundation of what would become Creeden's

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<v Speaker 4>Clearwater Revival, a band that lasted from nineteen sixty eight

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<v Speaker 4>known as swamp rock to the world. Would dominate the

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<v Speaker 4>charts with ten top I'm sorry, nine Top ten singles

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<v Speaker 4>and eight gold albums, and all of them with John

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<v Speaker 4>Fogerty as lead singer, lead guitarist, and the primary songwriter.

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<v Speaker 4>So moving along. After CCR parted ways in nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 4>John would release several albums and singles that had some

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<v Speaker 4>moderate success, but he was pretty disillusioned with the whole

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<v Speaker 4>music business. He was kind of beaten down by it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what I read. He wouldn't even perform CCR

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<v Speaker 4>songs at concerts at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>He got hosed by Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we'll get to that in a minute. But after

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<v Speaker 4>his hiatus of several years, he re emerged in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five with an album called center Field, and it

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<v Speaker 4>went right to the top of the charts. The title

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<v Speaker 4>track is frequently played on classic rock radio stations and

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<v Speaker 4>at baseball games right to this day. The LP also

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<v Speaker 4>included the critically acclaimed top ten hit The Old Man

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<v Speaker 4>on the Road, which we'll hear a little bit shortly,

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<v Speaker 4>and it also led to some big legal problems for Fogerty,

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<v Speaker 4>which we will also talk about a little later. But first,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't we hear the song?

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<v Speaker 10>You take um the problem the Mountains, You take a

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<v Speaker 10>Langan problem scat, you bring a prong man to the bag,

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<v Speaker 10>and you make the young mom crack.

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<v Speaker 6>You got the had it had You got the jump

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<v Speaker 7>You got the had.

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<v Speaker 9>The old man.

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<v Speaker 11>Down the road.

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<v Speaker 6>You got the voices beating riddles.

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<v Speaker 10>You got the hash black coat, you gotta foot tape coat,

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<v Speaker 10>rasteak hat and staying right in the road.

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<v Speaker 6>You got the had it hat.

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<v Speaker 9>You got to jump up the way.

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<v Speaker 6>You got the hid it hide it half.

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<v Speaker 9>The old man.

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<v Speaker 6>Down row.

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<v Speaker 10>Stemaker rim call you love, you make the barget of

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<v Speaker 9>Put a shed up.

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<v Speaker 10>Across the window when the old man comes around.

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<v Speaker 11>You got the half of half.

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<v Speaker 6>You got the jump bare round you, you got the

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<v Speaker 6>hid hide it half the old man. It's down a roup,

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<v Speaker 6>the old man, it's down a rough.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an awesome song. I think it's cool now. Lyrically Lyrically,

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<v Speaker 4>the song depicts a mysterious kind of supernatural figure or

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<v Speaker 4>wizard or sorcerer or something like that who commands the

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<v Speaker 4>forces of nature and strikes fear into the hearts of

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<v Speaker 4>men with an almost demonic presence, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 4>voodoo hoodoo that they do do so well, that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing. But the lyrics are also analogous to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the ugly side of the music industry that Fogerty

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<v Speaker 4>had been experiencing firsthand when he was with to See

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<v Speaker 4>Records and its owner of Saul's Ants. Now, how do

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<v Speaker 4>we get into this story?

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<v Speaker 2>Which story you got?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, well basically, well, let me go, let me

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<v Speaker 4>go back a little ways. That back when CCR broke up,

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<v Speaker 4>Fogerty had to give up his copyrights and publishing rights

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<v Speaker 4>for all the credence songs that he wrote to Saul's Ants,

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<v Speaker 4>the president of Fantasy Records and Fancay Records themselves, in

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<v Speaker 4>order to be released from his contract, which sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty hefty price to pay. I mean, but you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta do what you gotta do. So anyway, he lets

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<v Speaker 4>you know, releases Old Man down the road and finds

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<v Speaker 4>himself getting sued for plagiarism by pall z Ants and

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<v Speaker 4>Fantasy Records. Accused of plagiarism for sounding like himself. How

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<v Speaker 4>does that? How does that happen? Well, as I say that,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's a pretty underhanded thing if you

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<v Speaker 4>ask me for you know, but this is the music business.

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<v Speaker 4>People they are not they are not good people. They

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<v Speaker 4>are not nice people, not musicians. That's another story. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about the suits. So yeah, he gets sued

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<v Speaker 4>for ripping off himself. Basically the song was run through

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<v Speaker 4>the Jungle that Fogerty had written for CCR many years before,

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<v Speaker 4>and they said, no, it's just like that. But ultimately,

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately Fogerty did prevail in the Landmark case and proved

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<v Speaker 4>the two songs were distinctly different compositions by actually playing

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<v Speaker 4>them on his guitar in court on the witness stand, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is I never get a jury duty for that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, for that, that would be the best concert ever.

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<v Speaker 4>But and well, by the way, Yeah, Fogerty also wrote

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of other songs directed directed towards Zance, which

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<v Speaker 4>I think he got, you know, sued for too, like

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<v Speaker 4>for defamation or something he was going to be so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was it caused a little bit of a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But Zance Can't Dance was the track on there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>dance can't dance. But he'll steal your money watch them,

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<v Speaker 2>or he'll rob you blind. And so I know he's

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<v Speaker 2>threatened another lawsuit, so they chang instead of Zance it

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<v Speaker 2>was Vance Can't Dance. But the video for that is

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<v Speaker 2>a pig that's literally robbing the singer in the video.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there there was no ambiguity in that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was another one called mister Greed. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that was obviously maybe a little less uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't mention him by name. But yeah, But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>aside from all that, in my opinion, the old Man

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<v Speaker 4>down the Road is also a metaphor kind of for

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<v Speaker 4>what's waiting for us all at the end of the line,

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the road. And I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the grim Reaper missed the death that we

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<v Speaker 4>all have to come down the end of the road

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<v Speaker 4>and meet eventually. But on a lighter note CCR. They

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<v Speaker 4>were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 4>back in nineteen ninety three. Fogerty was placed on the

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<v Speaker 4>Rolling Stone magazine's list of the one hundred Greatest Songwriters,

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<v Speaker 4>landing at number forty, and on its list of the

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred greatest singers of all time, and that would

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<v Speaker 4>be number seventy two for him. He was also inducted

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<v Speaker 4>into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in two thousand and five. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>believe it or not, and I full transparency here, I

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<v Speaker 4>never saw Creeden's Clearwater Revival perform live in concert. It

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<v Speaker 4>was well, they broke up in seventy two. I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to stuff, but I don't even remember them playing

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere particularly that was accessible to a sixteen or fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>year old at the time. But I am going to

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<v Speaker 4>see John Fogerty this fall, possibly twice, so I can

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<v Speaker 4>make up for that. And back in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>eight at the south By Southwest Festival in Austin, Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant with Creden's Clearwater Revival's bass player Stu Cook, who

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<v Speaker 4>we've gelled as those all sorts of tales of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Much dislike there is amongst Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that, And he was also with Doug Clifford. They

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<v Speaker 4>had a group called I don't know, they may still

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<v Speaker 4>be doing it Creden's clear Water Revisited, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>doing that at the time, which apparently I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 4>things that they almost sounded better than the originals. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think there were issue legal issues with the name too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they tried to take Creeden's clear Water Revival,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that turned into a mess, so they wound

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<v Speaker 2>up renaming the group.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I remember I was somewhere and they were in

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<v Speaker 4>the area, but I didn't get to see them. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just not feasible. Anyway, That's that's my story

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<v Speaker 4>for today. And now go see a concert.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you and I are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>at the same show, at least one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh, that's right. Yet at the site of Woodstock itself,

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<v Speaker 4>they played at, and we're kind of overshadowed or undershadowed

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<v Speaker 4>by the Grateful Dead, who took more time tuning their

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<v Speaker 4>guitars than they did actually playing. Yeah, and by the

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<v Speaker 4>time Creden's came on, if I'm not mistaken, it was

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<v Speaker 4>like way you know, everyone in the morning, Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well he puts on a great show. His

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<v Speaker 2>two sons are in the band, you know, they each

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<v Speaker 2>play guitar and all that, So definitely worth going to

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<v Speaker 2>see him.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to it. Like I said, I never

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<v Speaker 4>saw him, so this is this will be a first

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<v Speaker 4>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's eighty now, I believe right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yeah, if he was born forty five. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>he hated a birthday last year and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, definitely a good show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm catching up to him, but not not quite.

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<v Speaker 2>And the video for the Old Man down the Road

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely eighties but it's worth watching. It was simple

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of creative. It follows a guitar cable everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>through the woods, down the road, blah blah blah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just snakes all over the place. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the cable is John playing and singing.

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<v Speaker 4>So he appears in it a few times as you

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<v Speaker 4>travel through the you know, in different not disguises, but

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<v Speaker 4>different different guys. Is I guess it's good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fun, excellent. All right, you got a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 2>for me so far one of my favorites, so works

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Good lead off, all right, thanks Neil, Gail.

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<v Speaker 2>We're up to you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always looking for something a little different. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to just pick, you know, anything too well known,

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<v Speaker 3>although some of the people in this group might know

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<v Speaker 3>some of these people's work. The band I chose is

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<v Speaker 3>Bowling for Soup. Yes, did you, Barbara, didn't you do

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<v Speaker 3>a Bowling for Soup song once.

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<v Speaker 6>On a while back?

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<v Speaker 13>But I don't remember which one I picked because I

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<v Speaker 13>love them all.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I did one on this show also yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I knew somebody. Yeah yeah yeah. So apparently they

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<v Speaker 3>are commonly abbreviated to BFS and they're an American rock band.

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<v Speaker 3>Formed in Wichita Falls, Texas, in nineteen ninety four. They've

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<v Speaker 3>had various member changes over the years, between people going

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<v Speaker 3>to do solo projects and people having health issues, and

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<v Speaker 3>it all ended up where following the lead guitarist, Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Bernie's retirement in twenty twenty five, Jarrett Reddick is the

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<v Speaker 3>only remaining original member now. Before they were Bowling for Soup,

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<v Speaker 3>they were a band called Rubberneck, but they decided in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety three to change the name of their group

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<v Speaker 3>to Bowling for Soup, which was derived from the phrase

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<v Speaker 3>bowling for and it's a word that begins with S

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<v Speaker 3>but is poop from a comedy act by Steve Martin.

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<v Speaker 3>And in nineteen ninety six, Bowling for Soup relocated to Denton, Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>They have done some work with the Dolly Ruts. September

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<v Speaker 3>eighth of ninety No September twenty fifth, twenty twelve, they

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<v Speaker 3>released a split album with The Dolly Ruts and Patent

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<v Speaker 3>Pending called One Big Happy, where the bands performed covers

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<v Speaker 3>of each other's songs. Those three bands went on tour

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<v Speaker 3>of the same name that year. In October twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Bowling for Soup had planned and announced a Surf the

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<v Speaker 3>UK tour in twenty twenty one with Litt and The

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<v Speaker 3>Dolly Rots, but they were forced to cancel due to

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<v Speaker 3>why what happened in twenty twenty COVID. It had to

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<v Speaker 3>be rescheduled, and it got rescheduled to April of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two. Now, the song I chose.

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<v Speaker 2>Is from.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the song itself is getting old sucks, but everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, which that's true in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know I'm getting older. I'm kind of liking it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as the older you get, the more you

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<v Speaker 4>like it too, because from what I'm told, it beats

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<v Speaker 4>the alternative.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, when you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Young, you say, oh, I don't want to get old.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get old, and suddenly it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, this doesn't sound like actually a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'll keep signing up for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's better than not getting old. So getting

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<v Speaker 3>old sucks, but everybody's doing it. Is a catchy pop

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<v Speaker 3>punk song I Didn't know that was a thing? Pop

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<v Speaker 3>Punk released as a single on May seventh, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>and later featured on their twenty twenty two studio album

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<v Speaker 3>Pop Drunk Snot Bread Now. The name of that album

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<v Speaker 3>was a riff on uh, pop Punk's not dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha? Okay, that was a long walk, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>you there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>You may think it's funny, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>The song itself pokes fun at the physical and cultural

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<v Speaker 3>realities of aging, such as going to bed early, guilty,

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<v Speaker 3>hurting knees, got one, and not understanding TikTok. While I

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<v Speaker 3>deal with is Facebook, I don't have the energy to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with anything else. Also, the themes are complaining about

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<v Speaker 3>loud cars, fading tattoos, early bedtimes, asking what's TikTok, and

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with modern media and realizing that while aging hurts,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone goes through it together. So let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 15>He grew up three blocks away the same old neighborhood

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<v Speaker 15>to do much time on is one, then there's no

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<v Speaker 15>football on.

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<v Speaker 12>Where did the time go?

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<v Speaker 6>What's that on his face?

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<v Speaker 7>So we thought we live forever out of thing? We're

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<v Speaker 7>up to that.

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<v Speaker 6>By nine?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, then the streets sound we come playing. When cons try,

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<v Speaker 7>he said, saying the music is insanely love turn.

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<v Speaker 6>To No Wady and looking back, it was all worth it.

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<v Speaker 16>The truth is getting all suss, but everybody's doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>We were t on the Saint John.

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<v Speaker 15>We changed the same girls, we played in, all the

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<v Speaker 15>same beads, each other's bestest.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>You had a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got too bunnies.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want to live forever? What the fuck is

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<v Speaker 7>tip to child checkers.

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<v Speaker 15>In the streets, how we complained when cons try to say,

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<v Speaker 15>saying the music is insanely not crazed, and looking.

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<v Speaker 9>Back it was all worthy.

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<v Speaker 6>The truth is getting all subs good. Everybody's doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think we.

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<v Speaker 15>Can do bridges anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>We need a break.

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<v Speaker 16>Sounds like words original in here and old Milwaukee and Folgers.

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<v Speaker 12>For those new ballads, we.

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<v Speaker 7>Have to run with them the streets.

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<v Speaker 15>Now we complain when const she says him the music

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<v Speaker 15>and anything.

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<v Speaker 7>Now the smoothies our car shots and remakes and ship

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<v Speaker 7>down when we playing on music to our memories away

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<v Speaker 7>and looking that she was all worth it, all worth

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<v Speaker 7>the true is getting all sucks.

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<v Speaker 14>But everybody's doing it.

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<v Speaker 8>Everybody's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything that almost sounds like it could be a theme

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<v Speaker 3>song for like a sitcom.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally definitely yeah, you know, yeah, growing old but doing

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<v Speaker 4>it right reminds me of the phrase, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 4>old disgracefully.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't they do a theme for a was it a

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<v Speaker 2>Nickelodeon show?

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<v Speaker 9>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>So, Ricking No, rick and Morning.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Now it was a kids show. I know they

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<v Speaker 2>did a theme for a kids show. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>look it up. I don't remember which one.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I had never heard this song before I

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<v Speaker 3>did the research for tonight's show. The album charted and

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<v Speaker 3>this I don't know. I don't know if it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>chart over here or what, but this is just the

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<v Speaker 3>UK figures. UK album sales peak position was eighty. UK

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<v Speaker 3>album downloads official charts peaked at twenty seven. UK independent

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<v Speaker 3>albums official charts peaked at thirty seven, UK physical albums

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<v Speaker 3>peaked at seventy three, and UK Rock and Metal Albums

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<v Speaker 3>official charts peaked at number thirteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Their musical style has been described as pop punk, pop rock,

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<v Speaker 3>alternative rock, and power pop. Wow, that's kind of a variety.

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<v Speaker 3>AllMusic describes Bowling for Soups style as a feverishly catchy

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<v Speaker 3>and humorous blend of power pop, ska punk, and hardcore,

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<v Speaker 3>further characterizing it as a cheeky take on pop punk

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<v Speaker 3>and melodic alt pop. Bowling for Soups influences include Green Day, Bad, Religion, Ramones, NFX,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea who that is, descendants Elvis Costello

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<v Speaker 3>and Willie Nelson.

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<v Speaker 2>Willie's the og.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think you might have something to do

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<v Speaker 4>with habit ah, just one just guessing, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimate Guitar Senior editor David Slavkovich named Bowling for Soup

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<v Speaker 3>the fifteenth weirdest band name of all time, highlighting a

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<v Speaker 3>quote from one of the site's users who asked, are

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<v Speaker 3>they bowling to obtain soup? Or are they bowling in

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<v Speaker 3>the name of soup?

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<v Speaker 2>Too?

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<v Speaker 4>Deep?

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<v Speaker 3>Valid question, Yeah, very philosophical.

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<v Speaker 13>So they actually the theme song that we're thinking of

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<v Speaker 13>is Phineas and Ferb and It's cold today is going

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<v Speaker 13>to be a great day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep ah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was Disney, not Nickelodeon, Disney Disney yep. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>does Disney own them yet?

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<v Speaker 4>I know? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, considering since Disney owns the Star Wars, uh everything. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that makes Princess Leah a Disney princess.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have heard they bought you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the Fox Yeah TV shows and all that, including

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<v Speaker 2>mash So Corporal, And I.

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<v Speaker 14>Think that would make him very happy.

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<v Speaker 9>I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>Section eight all the way.

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<v Speaker 14>Ye, pibity bobbity boo.

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<v Speaker 17>Wasn't he the only one that actually served in the

431
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<v Speaker 17>Korean War on that cast?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a veteran. Yeah. Interesting, All right, well done,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to step on you if you're Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good one. That was cute. I like that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't heard that one either. All right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a real quick break and then uh we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back with more.

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<v Speaker 1>So stick around Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>This concludes the first part of this cassette. Please turn

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<v Speaker 2>the cassette over and begin again on side to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Hudson River Radio dot Com. Don't make us come

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<v Speaker 2>and find you and welcome back. We're talking about old

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00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 2>stuff and mercedes, it's your turn, it is my turn.

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<v Speaker 9>I am up.

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<v Speaker 8>I was the one that picked this and when I

447
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 8>picked the topic, I had no idea what I was

448
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 8>going to pick for this song.

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00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It was just vague enough that it could go in

450
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<v Speaker 2>so many directions and that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So when I actually thought about this topic, my immediate

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<v Speaker 8>thought was Aquilung. And I know it's a song that

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<v Speaker 8>like everybody knows, so it's a little cliche, but it

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00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 8>absolutely fits for me. It is a song that really

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00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 8>personifies an aging, old homeless man for me. The lyrics

457
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 8>are very vivid and detailed. I mean immediately when you

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<v Speaker 8>hear the opening lines, sitting on a park bench eyeing

459
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.559
<v Speaker 8>little girls with bad intents, not running down his nose,

460
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 8>creasy fingers, smearing shabby clothes, you get a very descriptively

461
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:55.160
<v Speaker 8>clear picture of where you are and who the person

462
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<v Speaker 8>is that you're observing.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>It was written by Ian Anderson of the bandje Throtel

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<v Speaker 8>and his then wife Jenny Franks. Anderson has said, and

466
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<v Speaker 8>apparently she wrote those first two lines that I just recited.

467
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<v Speaker 8>And Anderson has said Aqualung wasn't a concept album, although

468
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people thought so. The idea came from

469
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 8>a photograph that my wife at the time took of

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<v Speaker 8>a tramp in London. I had feelings of guilt about

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<v Speaker 8>the homeless, as well as fear and insecurity with people

472
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<v Speaker 8>like that who seem a little scary, and I suppose oh,

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<v Speaker 8>that was combined with a slightly romanticized picture of the

474
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<v Speaker 8>person who is a homeless but yet a free spirit,

475
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<v Speaker 8>who either won't or can't join in society's prescribed formats.

476
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 8>Although the album is not a concept album, it is

477
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<v Speaker 8>interesting to me that the Aquelon character is mentioned again

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<v Speaker 8>in another song on the album, Cross Eyed Mary, which

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<v Speaker 8>gives you an insight on the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 8>she is. Aqualung is on the album called Aqualung, released

481
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<v Speaker 8>in nineteen seventy one and never released as a single

482
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<v Speaker 8>because of its length six minutes and thirty four seconds.

483
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<v Speaker 8>At the time, there was a very clear divide between

484
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 8>AM and FM radio stations. AM played three minute pop

485
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 8>hits while FM played deep cuts. The album was Jethro

486
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<v Speaker 8>Tell's first American top ten album and reached number seven

487
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 8>in June of nineteen seventy one. The members are Ian Anderson,

488
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<v Speaker 8>David Goodear, John O'Hara, Scott Hammond, and Jack Clark, with

489
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 8>many more past members the Watercolor album. The Watercolor Album

490
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<v Speaker 8>cover art was created by the artist Burton Silverman. Jethro

491
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<v Speaker 8>Tell's manager, Terry Ellis, commissioned him after seeing his work

492
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<v Speaker 8>in Time magazine. Burton took some photos of Ian Anderson

493
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<v Speaker 8>wearing his old overcoat before he painted the cover, and

494
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 8>the resulting work looked a lot like a haggard version

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<v Speaker 8>of Ian, who was not pleased with the painting. Despite

496
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 8>his objections, the cover became, of course, an iconic image

497
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<v Speaker 8>in rock. The effect that you this is fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 8>The fact that you hear when the song hits the

499
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 8>line sun Streaking Cold is called telephone burbles. Has anybody

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00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 8>heard of that hope where you remove all frequencies except

501
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 8>for a narrow band around the one thousand hertz mark.

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<v Speaker 8>This is to reproduce the sound of a telephone. Anderson

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<v Speaker 8>is quoted as saying, it's also like when you're a

504
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 8>dressing a crowd through a megaphone, or even perhaps the

505
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 8>tiny sound of a voice trumpet, which is a non

506
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.679
<v Speaker 8>active megaphone. It's a form of address. It's a sound

507
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 8>that woke up young pilots in nineteen forty one and

508
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<v Speaker 8>sent them into the skies to battle the the hun

509
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<v Speaker 8>This is the sound of the Tonoi, the calling to

510
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 8>arms of young men going up in their hurricanes and spitfires.

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<v Speaker 8>It's something that's very much part of the blood of

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<v Speaker 8>an Englishman.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony is what they call like a public good arrest system.

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<v Speaker 8>Ah, thank you, I did not look that up. So

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<v Speaker 8>let's hear it and know we are not playing the

516
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<v Speaker 8>six minute version. You can thank me later.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, really, we'll just fade it out at some

518
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 2>point then.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess I did send you the radio edit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 5>Stung spunding down his nose, raising big.

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<v Speaker 6>Spirit, shabby flood.

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<v Speaker 12>Hailove, crying in the full sun, watching over greeny pad

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<v Speaker 12>is love Love, feeling like a dead dock.

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<v Speaker 9>Smith out lobby, the.

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<v Speaker 7>Love Manlove.

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<v Speaker 18>Sunstreak and cold, a hold man mon drink lovely taking

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<v Speaker 18>time the only way.

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<v Speaker 9>Mad.

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<v Speaker 19>As it bends to pick Duggan, it goes down to

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<v Speaker 19>the bark and warns his feet feeling alone. The army

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<v Speaker 19>is up park road.

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<v Speaker 12>Solihlam boat and a club teeth equal longer, friend, don't

534
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<v Speaker 12>just start away, leasing.

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<v Speaker 9>Your poor old sort.

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<v Speaker 6>You see it's only me. Do you still remember when.

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<v Speaker 12>Decembers fucking freeze, when the ice the krings.

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<v Speaker 6>Onto your fill w a sqeak, make agony, making a

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<v Speaker 6>sat rattle.

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<v Speaker 20>The glass threats with deep sea diam sounds, and the flowers.

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<v Speaker 7>Fill night lamps and the screaming.

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<v Speaker 11>Sunscreaming cold.

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00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 6>An old man wanderloaded, taking time the only way heloads.

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<v Speaker 12>Leg turning bad events a pair to tucket. It goes

545
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 12>down to the bark and walk his feeling at home.

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00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 12>The army und salvation had bad covert.

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<v Speaker 6>Aqualung.

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<v Speaker 12>My friends, don't just got away unathing your brown son,

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<v Speaker 12>you see it.

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<v Speaker 21>Turn back along, my friend, don't just start away uneasy,

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00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 21>your poor old summat your seats.

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<v Speaker 9>Sitting on the monk bench.

553
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<v Speaker 14>I met the girls with fading heads.

554
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:18.000
<v Speaker 20>And stop spuning down his nose, reasying a smearing, shabby.

555
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<v Speaker 12>Headlong trying in the full.

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<v Speaker 9>Sun what tring have a brady pan?

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<v Speaker 6>Is long.

558
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 12>Headlong feeling like a dead duck, spending out cases of

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<v Speaker 12>his brow long.

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<v Speaker 8>Hackld Brian, thank you for playing the whole time. It's

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00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 8>so good, though it's so good. I really do get

562
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 8>lost in that song. So I don't think I have

563
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.800
<v Speaker 8>to say much more about the band. They are John's

564
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 8>favorite band and he's done many of the songs. But

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<v Speaker 8>I do want to add that an aqualung is a

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00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 8>portable breathing machine, which Anderson had seen on the TV

567
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.760
<v Speaker 8>show Sea Hunt, where there was a lot of heavy

568
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 8>underwater breathing. Anderson thought that. Anderson thought that's how people

569
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 8>might refer to this character in the song because of

570
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 8>his heavy breathing from being unhealthy. He didn't know that

571
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 8>it was a brand name, and the company Aqualunge sued

572
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 8>after the album came out. The case was eventually dropped.

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00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 8>I looked up a few of the terms that I

574
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 8>had never understood. So a dog end is a cigarette butt,

575
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<v Speaker 8>not what you always thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a British thing? A dog?

577
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 8>Not that I know, but maybe it's an old British thing.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It isn't It isn't the bad end of a dog,

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<v Speaker 4>you know?

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<v Speaker 12>You know?

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<v Speaker 9>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, it's a cigarette yeah.

584
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<v Speaker 8>And going down to the bog to warm his feet

585
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 8>is probably about peeing on his shoes to warm his feet.

586
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 8>That's from a comment on song facts, so that's not verified, but.

587
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<v Speaker 2>That seems counterproductive in the long run.

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00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, yeah, But you never know what you're going

589
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 8>to do in a pinch either, so who knows. There's

590
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 8>a lot of comments about Aqualunge being a pedophile, which

591
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 8>some people say that it is actually the impression of

592
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 8>the people walking by him, not necessarily what he is.

593
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 8>So people are just assuming all kinds of things about

594
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 8>him as they see him sitting on the park bench.

595
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 8>Whether he is really all those things or maybe happy,

596
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 8>we don't know. Also, there was a comment on song

597
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 8>song what did I say? Song Facts from Jenny Franks

598
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 8>from Colorado saying this is all wrong. I was married

599
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 8>to Ian Anderson and I wrote the lyrics. Unfortunately, it

600
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 8>seems I'm being edged out of my credit. I'm going

601
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 8>to assume that that was his actual wife, but it's

602
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 8>hard to tell what she was referring to exactly the

603
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 8>way the comments landed. Oh and there is an official

604
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<v Speaker 8>video of the song that was released in Anybody No.

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty twenty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow really twenty twenty one?

607
00:45:59.239 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

608
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, free time during.

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<v Speaker 8>COVID huh I guess yeah, I mean, who knew? I

610
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 8>thought that was super interesting. I did watch it.

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<v Speaker 14>It was it was good. It wasn't great, but.

612
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 8>That's aquaalum.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. Well, I think that that opening riff that dead.

614
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 4>That that is like as iconic as like you as Beethoven.

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00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:30.239
<v Speaker 2>M it's you know what it is the moment you

616
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:30.559
<v Speaker 2>hear it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, Neil do knew anything about

618
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 8>the story about when they were in the studio and

619
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<v Speaker 8>they were recording it and they came to the riff

620
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 8>and apparently in those days you had to get a

621
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 8>riff sort of on first take. And oh my gosh,

622
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 8>now I can't remember what the other band was that

623
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 8>it was in the studio next to them, and they

624
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 8>came out somebody like really huge and they came out

625
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 8>out in there. They were like waving to the guitar

626
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.400
<v Speaker 8>player is he was trying to lay down these tracks

627
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 8>and he was very stressed out. I didn't hear that one,

628
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 8>but I'm going to have to look up who it was.

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<v Speaker 14>But but it worked.

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<v Speaker 8>The riff is great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. Yeah. No, if I say that that,

632
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, one hundred years from now people are going

633
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 4>to hear that and know what it is. Yeah, that's

634
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 4>what I think exactly the same thing with maybe like

635
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 4>the opening chords to uh Purple Haze by Yeah, yeah,

636
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.920
<v Speaker 4>you know you can name that song in one you know,

637
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 4>one note.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a good one. All right, thank you, Mercedes, John,

639
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 2>You're up okay. Well, as Mercedes pointed out, jeth Rotell

640
00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 2>certainly is just about my favorite band, but I also

641
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 2>have another favorite, and it's a decidedly different form of music,

642
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Harry Chapin and his folk rock, and I have been

643
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I've loved that man's story songs my entire life, you know,

644
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 2>ever since I was a kid. I remember having vinyl

645
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>with Harry Chapin on it, and you know, and it's

646
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just.

647
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 11>Take to it.

648
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 17>And there's a lot of selections there. You know, this

649
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 17>is a great topic. It's an interesting topic. What's interesting

650
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 17>is you can go in so many different ways, the

651
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 17>way Mercedes went, you know, the way Neil had gone

652
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 17>and everybody. It's just so many different directions. My direction

653
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 17>was Cat's in the Cradle. Now everybody knows Cat's in

654
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 17>the Cradle. I know that, But a couple of little

655
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:47.599
<v Speaker 17>bit interesting points about it.

656
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 2>It is from the.

657
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 17>Album Verities and Bouldered ash from nineteen seventy four, when

658
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 17>Harry Chapin was about thirty one years of age, So

659
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:58.119
<v Speaker 17>we're talking.

660
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 2>About age and growing old.

661
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.000
<v Speaker 17>When he wrote this, he was thirty one, so I

662
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.199
<v Speaker 17>think in a lot of ways, I think he's a

663
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.639
<v Speaker 17>very old soul. You know, you could see a young

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00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 17>child sometimes and you can say they have a very

665
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 17>old soul. I really think Shapin had an old soul

666
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 17>if you go back to some of those original cuts

667
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 17>that he had done, and it just it just as

668
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 17>a certain sophistication to the songs themselves. The song itself

669
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 17>cats in the Cradle. It's narrated by a guy who

670
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 17>becomes a father. He's constantly too busy with his work

671
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 17>to spend time with his son, despite his son looking

672
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 17>up to him and promising he will grow up to

673
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 17>be just like him, and when the son graduates from college,

674
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 17>he declines his father's offer to relax with him and

675
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 17>instead ask for the car keys. In the final stanza,

676
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 17>the now retired father calls his adult son and asks

677
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 17>to spend some time together, but the son is now

678
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 17>too busy with his own work and family time. Obviously,

679
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 17>the son had grown up just like his old man.

680
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 17>So the song itself, I think is about the full

681
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.800
<v Speaker 17>circle of life, you know. And I think no matter

682
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 17>what kind of past somebody might have, whether it's with family,

683
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 17>whether it's whatever it happens to be, life always seems

684
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:21.320
<v Speaker 17>to have these these circles, as I think Harry Chapman

685
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 17>would say, So, why don't we play the song and

686
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 17>we'll talk a little bit.

687
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 9>After the child arrived.

688
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 22>Just the other day he came to the world and LEU,

689
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 22>you were way, but there were planes to catch and

690
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 22>bills to pay. He learned to walk while I was away,

691
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 22>and he was talking for and doing, and as.

692
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 23>He grew he'd say, I'm gonna be like you. And

693
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 23>you know, I'm gonna be like you and the cats

694
00:50:54.760 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 23>and the man when you're coming.

695
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 6>Home that or don't don't win?

696
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 9>Who will get together there?

697
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, we'll have a good time.

698
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 9>Man. My son turned in just the other day.

699
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 6>He said, thanks for the ball that tomorrow let's play.

700
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 9>Can you give me the throw?

701
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 6>I said, or not today, I got a lot to do.

702
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 6>He said, that's okay.

703
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.679
<v Speaker 14>Then you want a way boy smile never tim and.

704
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 9>Said I'm gonna be like him.

705
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I'm gonna be like him and the

706
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 6>cats in the brail and the.

707
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Seas little ball with the man on the ball when.

708
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 6>You're coming home that or don't don't win.

709
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 9>Will get together there? You know we'll have a good time.

710
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 6>Then.

711
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Well it came from.

712
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 12>Gollege just the other day, so much like a man

713
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 12>I just can't to say his son, am brown of you?

714
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 6>And you said for a while. He shook his.

715
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Head and he said, with a smile.

716
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 12>What I feeling like, Dad, is the power of the

717
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:24.840
<v Speaker 12>car keys, see you laid again, have them breathe, and

718
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 12>the cats in.

719
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 14>The braider and the silverspoon, little boy, and the man

720
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:30.599
<v Speaker 14>of the bone.

721
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 6>When you're coming home.

722
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 12>Son, I don't know when we will get together there,

723
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 12>and you know we'll have a good time.

724
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 6>Then.

725
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 9>I've long since your time.

726
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 6>My son has moved away. Call him up just the

727
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 6>other day. I said, I'd like to see you if

728
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 6>you don't mind. He said, I'd love to.

729
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 9>Dad, if I can find the day you've seen. My

730
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 9>new jobs are hassled and the kids of the flood.

731
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.880
<v Speaker 23>But it's your nice talking to you that if mature

732
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 23>nice talking to you.

733
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 8>And as a hung up the phone, it occurred to me.

734
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 9>He grown up just like me.

735
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 6>My boy was just like me. And the Cats in

736
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 6>the Cradle and soon the little.

737
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.719
<v Speaker 9>Warclue and a man on when you're coming home son.

738
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 9>I don't know, man, but we'll get together there that

739
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 9>we're gonna have a good time there, Okay.

740
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 17>Cats in the Cradle from Veriteth and Balderdash teen seventy

741
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.280
<v Speaker 17>four Harry Chapin, as we said, it was thirty one

742
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 17>when he wrote this particular song. A couple of interesting

743
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 17>facts about the song. The chorus itself references a children's

744
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 17>game called Cat's Cradle, silver Spoons and silver spoons Excuse

745
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 17>me as traditional baby gifts, as well as the nursery

746
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 17>rhymes little Boy Blue and the Man in the Moon,

747
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.559
<v Speaker 17>and part of the beginning of the song was influenced

748
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:29.000
<v Speaker 17>by Chapin's wife, Sandra, in a poem she wrote. Another

749
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:33.280
<v Speaker 17>interesting point, Chapin himself is quoted as saying the song

750
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 17>was about his own relate. This song was actually about

751
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.920
<v Speaker 17>his own relationship with his son Josh, and frankly it

752
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 17>scares him to death. So interesting points there. So it's

753
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 17>that whole first full circle of life that comes with

754
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 17>growing old. Sadly, Harry Chapin did not grow old, as

755
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 17>we know, at the age of thirty eight, in nineteen

756
00:54:56.519 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 17>eighty one, he was in a violent automobile accident on

757
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 17>the Long Island Expressway in a New York state and

758
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:09.920
<v Speaker 17>where he was heading westbound on the highway, and he

759
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 17>was in a rather bad accident with a truck and

760
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 17>was flown to Nassau County Medical Center in East Meadow,

761
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 17>New York, where he passed away. What I have always

762
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.760
<v Speaker 17>found chilling and eerie about this story and the fact

763
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 17>that I've always loved his music, was in nineteen ninety five,

764
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.519
<v Speaker 17>when I was twenty six, fourteen years after Harry Chapin,

765
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 17>I was also on the Long Island Expressway in the

766
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 17>very same stretch of roadway, in the same direction as

767
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 17>Harry Chapin. I was also in a violent accident. I

768
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 17>was also flown to Nasau County Medical Center by a

769
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:47.480
<v Speaker 17>police helicopter, And I of course am here to talk

770
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 17>about it, and Harry Chapin is not. And I always

771
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.920
<v Speaker 17>find that kind of eerie. So whenever I hear his

772
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.559
<v Speaker 17>music that it just comes to mind, it really comes

773
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 17>to mind.

774
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.280
<v Speaker 2>But sorry to be a real buzz killed everybody, but

775
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just no more going along island. That's the end

776
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.679
<v Speaker 2>of this. So I will say this this song is

777
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:11.519
<v Speaker 2>about being old, or the topic of old and or

778
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 2>to get a ride in a helicopter.

779
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, but it was all about the full circle of

780
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 17>life in Cats in the Cradle. So that is my

781
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 17>selection for this evening.

782
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, if it's If it is any consolation, there

783
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 4>is a hard rock version of the song that came

784
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 4>out in like ninety two by a band called Ugly

785
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Kid Joe. So I mean it's this same message, I suppose,

786
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.559
<v Speaker 4>but at least it's a little more you know, a

787
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 4>little more upbeat musically, but lyrically same, don't.

788
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 17>I'll make it up on the next show. I'll pick

789
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 17>out something that's just I don't know, happy, fastly, happy,

790
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 17>different whatever. I'm sorry, Mercedes, I stepped.

791
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 2>On you there.

792
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:52.639
<v Speaker 14>That's okay.

793
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 8>I was just going to say I actually met him

794
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 8>at a convention, like a national music convention for.

795
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 17>Like, what was he like?

796
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he was great, he was great.

797
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 8>He was actually sitting on the dais behind me, so

798
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:12.880
<v Speaker 8>we sat through dinner together. But you know, I didn't

799
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 8>really get my nerve up to turn around and like

800
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 8>like I was younger then, Okay, today would be different.

801
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, you've you've changed your way, I've changed.

802
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 8>But I did turn around finally and start talking to

803
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 8>him because I had to. I mean, he's behind me

804
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:35.840
<v Speaker 8>on the dais are you kidding me? So I actually

805
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 8>I got his autograph, and which I was not going

806
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 8>to do because how tacky is that? But I did

807
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 8>it anyway, And yeah, he was really nice. He was

808
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 8>very sweet. I mean, his brother is sorry. His brother

809
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 8>is Tom Chapin, who lives in Piemont. And Tom is amazing.

810
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.039
<v Speaker 8>He's amazing. I just love him so much. And his

811
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 8>wife is amazing.

812
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 17>So my uncle actually met him trying to sneak out

813
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 17>at the end of a show one night. My uncle

814
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 17>was a police officer in New York City and he

815
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:12.239
<v Speaker 17>he was kind of in the back area, you know,

816
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.920
<v Speaker 17>kind of guarding the back of the stage area, I guess,

817
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:16.920
<v Speaker 17>and he actually caught shape and trying to climb a

818
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:18.000
<v Speaker 17>fence to get to his car.

819
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 8>To leave Witch Chapin Harry, Oh, okay, yes.

820
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:26.079
<v Speaker 17>I'm sorry, not Tom but Harry, Yes, Harry Chapin. But yeah,

821
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 17>And in case anyone was wondering, another little piece of Trivia.

822
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 17>The car he was driving was a nineteen seventy five

823
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:37.360
<v Speaker 17>Volkswagen Rabbit, and his wife got twelve million dollars in

824
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 17>a lawsuit against the company of the for the the

825
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:43.320
<v Speaker 17>company that owned the truck that hit him.

826
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 8>Wow, yeah, Can I Can I just go back to

827
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 8>my topic for a second, please do.

828
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 9>So.

829
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 8>It was Jimmy Page in the next studio from obviously

830
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 8>from Led Zeppelin, and he was at the control room window,

831
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:03.559
<v Speaker 8>and he was waving to him to say hi, and

832
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.199
<v Speaker 8>he was waving madly at Barr.

833
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That would be a little intimidating, I would say, yeah.

834
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 8>So Barr was in the middle of recording his icond

835
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 8>of improvised guitar solo and simply turned his back to

836
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 8>keep playing.

837
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 4>Martin is no slouch young guitar either, let's you know.

838
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 4>So I don't think I don't think he'd have anything

839
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 4>to be embarrassed about.

840
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:28.519
<v Speaker 2>But no, it's just nerds to get you. You know,

841
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:30.639
<v Speaker 2>you're all balanced now something like that.

842
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, no, I well, And at that point Jimmy

843
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 4>Page was actually established. He had been with the with

844
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:44.280
<v Speaker 4>the Yardbirds, and Martin had just pretty much joined a

845
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:47.639
<v Speaker 4>couple of years earlier. He was not the original Told guitarist,

846
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:51.239
<v Speaker 4>but he was the longest standing and you know most

847
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, he is the Jethro Tolds guitar player, let's

848
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 4>put it that way. But yeah, I could see him

849
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 4>being a little bit little rat.

850
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 17>I saw a Tall at all enduring a thunder and

851
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.920
<v Speaker 17>lightning storm at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center in upstate

852
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:08.719
<v Speaker 17>New York, and it was like one of the best

853
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 17>shows I've ever been in my life because it was

854
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 17>a pretty violent storm with wind and rain and thunder,

855
01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 17>and you know, that's an outdoor venue and they didn't

856
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 17>stop the show and he just played right right through

857
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 17>the lightning strike. It was just incredible, absolutely incredible.

858
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I think there's a few groups I've seen,

859
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 4>like more than I can count, and obviously it would

860
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:31.639
<v Speaker 4>be The Ramones, the Rolling Stones, the Who, and probably

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01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Jethro Tall. And the first time I saw Jethrow Tall,

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01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 4>they didn't play acalone, no, because.

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01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:41.079
<v Speaker 9>I didn't see them.

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01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 8>It's their most played song in concert after.

865
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 4>Locomotive Breath, and they didn't play that either.

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01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 2>You know why they They hadn't been written, written, It.

867
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 4>Was nineteen seventy. They hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Happen Okay, you got us there, Neil, So Marvin Barry

869
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't backstage. Guess not guess not? All right, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>The times after that they played them Yester, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, all right. I think I think we need a

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01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.320
<v Speaker 2>break after that one. That's yeah one, yeah, so, but

873
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<v Speaker 2>we have two more to go, so don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Hudson River Radio dot com. Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back, Barbara. We're up to you.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, I chose something a little more obscure, but believe

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01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 13>it or not, I played this on my show at

880
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 13>least three times because I keep getting requests for it,

881
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:51.760
<v Speaker 13>and I happen to like this song a lot, and

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01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 13>it's a song that many folks of my age can

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01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 13>relate to. It's called I Look Good Naked Anymore and

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01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 13>it's by the Snake Oil Willy.

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01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.440
<v Speaker 17>Band, Snake Oil Willie Band.

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01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 14>I'll get to. I'll get to how they call themselves

887
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 14>that in a bit.

888
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 4>Is that on the same list as bowling for Soup

889
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:20.920
<v Speaker 4>being a weird top ten weird names? I think?

890
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 13>Well, I think this band formed, like you know, after that,

891
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:30.599
<v Speaker 13>they actually formed a New Jersey in ninety Yes in

892
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 13>nineteen ninety five, and although they went through various lineup changes,

893
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:41.639
<v Speaker 13>the core members consist of Tony Krusinski on drums and vocals,

894
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 13>and he also handles all their bookings because they do

895
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 13>perform live still Seth Fleischmann on lead guitar and vocals,

896
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 13>and he does the songwriting. And after I wrote that line,

897
01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 13>I realized that they basically have two original songs and

898
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.960
<v Speaker 13>the rest of us all covers, So I don't I

899
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.480
<v Speaker 13>couldn't find anything else that was original, but and if

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01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 13>anybody does, please let me know. Also band member Frank

901
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 13>de Bonus on bass and vocals, and he handles the

902
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:18.800
<v Speaker 13>band's social media and their repertoire includes classic rock of

903
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.719
<v Speaker 13>the sixties through the nineties, and southern and country rock.

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01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 14>As you'll hear.

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01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 13>Some of their influences include Leonard Skinnyard, Johnny Cash, and

906
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 13>the Doobie Brothers, among others. I Don't Look Good Naked

907
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.199
<v Speaker 13>Anymore was released digitally in twenty fourteen.

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01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 14>So let's pause here and have a listen.

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<v Speaker 6>Will my body could use a little swimming?

910
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I bet my shirt all when to go swim in?

911
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:48.440
<v Speaker 4>And I ain't seen my feature.

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01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Speaker 6>It's nineteen eighty four. The old lady watch a roll

913
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:54.480
<v Speaker 6>in the haye.

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01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 16>We turned the lights down all the way because I

915
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:04.079
<v Speaker 16>don't look good in a kid a anymore. No, I

916
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 16>don't up could naked anymore. I'm a deep fried, double

917
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.039
<v Speaker 16>white version of the.

918
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:13.760
<v Speaker 6>Man I was before.

919
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 16>If I keep on like I'm doing it, I won't

920
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.280
<v Speaker 16>fit through the door, and I don't look good naked anymore.

921
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, it used to be a hell of a man.

922
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.880
<v Speaker 6>I chump wood with just one hand. But I can't

923
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 6>do the things I've done before.

924
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 16>Well, it all happened kind of slow, but I guess

925
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.000
<v Speaker 16>I kind of let myself go. Now I don't You

926
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:50.559
<v Speaker 16>couldn't naked anymore, No, I don't luck couldn't naked anymore.

927
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:55.360
<v Speaker 16>I'm a deep fried, double white version of.

928
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 6>A man I was before. If I keep on like

929
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:03.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm do it, I won't fit through the door or

930
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 6>and I don't look good naked anymore.

931
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 16>With each and every passion year came a lot of

932
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.000
<v Speaker 16>French fries and beer.

933
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 6>And Mabelly hung a little closer to the floor. Now

934
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 6>Mabella as big as a truck.

935
01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:24.360
<v Speaker 4>And the old lad he don't want to.

936
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:31.000
<v Speaker 6>She don't want to because I don't look good naked annymore. No,

937
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.159
<v Speaker 6>I don't look goodn't naked anymore.

938
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 16>I'm a deep fried, double white version of the man

939
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:41.000
<v Speaker 16>I was before.

940
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:45.440
<v Speaker 6>If you keep on like I'm doing, I won't fit

941
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 6>through the door. And I don't look good naked anymore.

942
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 9>No, I don't look.

943
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.840
<v Speaker 14>Goodn't naked anymore.

944
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:01.320
<v Speaker 16>I'm a deep fried, double white verson of the man

945
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 16>I love before.

946
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 6>If on noon a long fade through the door, and

947
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:15.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't look good naked anymore. No, I don't look

948
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 6>good naked anymore.

949
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 13>Then I cannot tell you how much I love that song.

950
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 13>It's very catchy. It's a catchy tune.

951
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:28.559
<v Speaker 14>I confess. I walk around the house singing it.

952
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.079
<v Speaker 13>And if you have like an earworm, a song that

953
01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:39.400
<v Speaker 13>got stuck in your head and you don't want it there,

954
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 13>sing this one. It'll get rid of it, which is

955
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 13>another reason why I like it. So The Snake Oil

956
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:50.639
<v Speaker 13>Willy Band got their name from a Halloween party that

957
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 13>had a fake tombstone duration that had the inscription here

958
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:59.880
<v Speaker 13>lies snake Oil Willy. So besides, I don't look good

959
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.360
<v Speaker 13>naked anymore. They recorded another original song called Gift Card.

960
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:07.519
<v Speaker 13>It's a Christmas song about receiving gift cards. According to

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01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 13>their official website, they describe themselves as seasoned professional musicians

962
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 13>with many years of dedication.

963
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:17.960
<v Speaker 14>To their craft.

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01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 13>They go on to note that they are firmly implanted

965
01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:26.199
<v Speaker 13>in classic rock, but appeal to a variety of musical tastes.

966
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 13>Their website also provides a schedule of their appearances in

967
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 13>case anybody wants to go see live music, and links

968
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:37.159
<v Speaker 13>to live videos of them performing both of their original

969
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 13>songs as well as their covers.

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01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 14>And I just love them.

971
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:46.360
<v Speaker 13>It's crazy. People are always asking me to play this song.

972
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 13>They're just they're such an obscure band. But a lot

973
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 13>of people I know just know this song. And I

974
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 13>think that's really cool.

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01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.559
<v Speaker 4>And I love them a lot, so and now a

976
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:01.480
<v Speaker 4>lot more people know them. So there you go.

977
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:03.079
<v Speaker 2>I see the appeal.

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01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 14>Yes, all right, that's what I got.

979
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. That's a good one, all right.

980
01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna throw a monkey wrench in this whole

981
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:16.840
<v Speaker 2>thing because I went in such a completely different direction.

982
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Everybody went with, you know, songs about old people are

983
01:08:20.439 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 2>getting old, you know, the logical choices. But I went

984
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:27.520
<v Speaker 2>with an old song. But crambones, I'm gonna I'm gonna

985
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 2>be picking your knowledge on this, so jump in. All right,

986
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 2>So we all know that the Star Spangled Banner is

987
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.319
<v Speaker 2>the national anthem of the United States of America. Right,

988
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 2>So who wrote it? Scott Francis Scott Key. Do you

989
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 2>know what he did for a living? In his story?

990
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 4>Wrote songs about flags?

991
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:52.600
<v Speaker 2>You would think so, But no.

992
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:56.119
<v Speaker 14>Was he a journalist, no partian?

993
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 2>No, No, he was actually an attorney and an all

994
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 2>He was from Maryland. He wrote a poem called Defense

995
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:08.039
<v Speaker 2>of Fort Mahenry. Now the fort's name is Mick Henry.

996
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:10.920
<v Speaker 2>He took out the sea and put in the apostrophe

997
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.199
<v Speaker 2>because you clearly saved a whole lot of time. I'm

998
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 2>sure that's why he did it.

999
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Well the copyright infringement thing, yeah.

1000
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:19.359
<v Speaker 9>It could be.

1001
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how copy was going on at

1002
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:21.960
<v Speaker 2>the time.

1003
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:23.439
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you would be surprised.

1004
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be. Could be. So his poem Defense

1005
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of Fort ma Henry, which would become the Star Spangled Banner?

1006
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Now during which war was it written? Eighteen twelve? Bonus

1007
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.760
<v Speaker 2>point to Gale. I'm gonna keep track of bonus points

1008
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>because they might be worth something someday. I don't know.

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01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Very briefly, the War of eighteen twelve took place between

1010
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:54.800
<v Speaker 2>eighteen twelve and eighteen fifteen. England and France were at

1011
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 2>war over maritime rights in trade, and the US wound

1012
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 2>up joining because England was all so messing around with

1013
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:04.880
<v Speaker 2>American trade as well while trying to interfere with French trade,

1014
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 2>so they were using blockades all that kind of stuff,

1015
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:10.159
<v Speaker 2>So the United States wound up going back to war

1016
01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 2>with England. A friend of Francis scott Key, doctor William Beans,

1017
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was arrested and held by the British on the ship

1018
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:23.720
<v Speaker 2>HMS Tunant, accused of detaining British soldiers who had been wounded.

1019
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.760
<v Speaker 2>The President at the time, James Madison, sent Franciscott Key

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01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:32.399
<v Speaker 2>to meet Colonel John Skinner, an American colonel, and then

1021
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:35.800
<v Speaker 2>proceed to negotiate with the British to try to gain

1022
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Bean's release. They were invited aboard the British ship. They

1023
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 2>wound up having dinner with British Major General Robert Ross,

1024
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:51.079
<v Speaker 2>who ultimately agreed to release Bean because the general had

1025
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 2>received letters that were written by injured British soldiers about

1026
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 2>the compassionate care that they actually received. From American doctors.

1027
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.279
<v Speaker 2>So it was a compassionate kind of thing. So the

1028
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 2>American doctors treated British soldiers well. So the doctor was

1029
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 2>granted his release. But the three of them, Francis Scott,

1030
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Keef Skinner and Bean, had overheard the British plans to

1031
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 2>attack Fort McHenry, so they were not allowed to return

1032
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:21.439
<v Speaker 2>to land. They were transferred to an American ship that

1033
01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.199
<v Speaker 2>was actually lashed tied to a British ship, and they

1034
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.039
<v Speaker 2>were held out on the water until after the attack

1035
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 2>was complete. So this is where the story comes from.

1036
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Why didn't they just why didn't they text them?

1037
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 2>You would think everybody blow to cover all that kind

1038
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:42.039
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.

1039
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:44.760
<v Speaker 14>So so what I'm taking from this is the guy's

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01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 14>name was Billy Bean.

1041
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know he Does that mean he was

1042
01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:50.399
<v Speaker 3>mister Bean?

1043
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was doctor Bean, So he didn't go through

1044
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:56.840
<v Speaker 2>four years of medical school to be mister Bean.

1045
01:11:58.720 --> 01:11:59.119
<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

1046
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.279
<v Speaker 13>I know some people that that would fit the description

1047
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:02.319
<v Speaker 13>fair enough.

1048
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:07.840
<v Speaker 2>All right. So at dawn on September thirteenth, eighteen fourteen,

1049
01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the British bombardment of Fort McHenry off the coast of

1050
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore started. It went for twenty five hours straight. This

1051
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 2>is where Franciscott Key observed the rockets red glare bombs

1052
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:24.680
<v Speaker 2>bursting in air. The British fired around eighteen hundred bombshells

1053
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and seven hundred rockets at the fort, but they had

1054
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to do so from a maximum distance, so they would

1055
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:35.039
<v Speaker 2>be out of range of the fort's cannon, which were

1056
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 2>superior weapons to what the British had, so the Americans

1057
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 2>could have knocked them out of the water if they

1058
01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.439
<v Speaker 2>got closer, so they had to stay far away, so

1059
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:48.159
<v Speaker 2>they wound up sacrificing accuracy at the well. By the

1060
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 2>end of the battle, four American soldiers died and twenty

1061
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:53.760
<v Speaker 2>four were wounded, which is a lot, but it could

1062
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:55.920
<v Speaker 2>have been a whole lot worse, considering it was the

1063
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:59.159
<v Speaker 2>whole fort under attack. At the start of the attack,

1064
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the fort was flying what's known as their storm flag,

1065
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the smaller version, which was twenty five feet by seventeen feet.

1066
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>That's the small flag that is roughly the size of

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01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:12.159
<v Speaker 2>two full sized pickup trucks park next to each other.

1068
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 2>That's how big the small flag was. At the end

1069
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of the battle, when they realized that they had come

1070
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 2>out on top, they lowered the storm flag and raised

1071
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the garrison flag, which was forty two feet by thirty feet,

1072
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.039
<v Speaker 2>just to make the statement that is a giant flag. Now,

1073
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 2>this garrison flag is the actual star spangled banner that

1074
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 2>is on display at the Smithsonian in Washington, d C.

1075
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Which is worth the trip. It's one of those displays

1076
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 2>that you walk in, you go around the corner and boom,

1077
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:45.279
<v Speaker 2>it's laid out and very impressive, and you realize how

1078
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:50.840
<v Speaker 2>big that flag really was. So all patriotic, it all

1079
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:54.600
<v Speaker 2>sounds good, right all you know, Americans came out on top, yay,

1080
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and we write a poem about it. But you know,

1081
01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not leaving it there. It should be noted that

1082
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Francis Scott Key was a slave owner. He owned eight

1083
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:10.640
<v Speaker 2>when he died. He publicly would denounce slavery while owning them.

1084
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 2>He represented both enslaved people who were fighting for their

1085
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:18.479
<v Speaker 2>freedom and slave owners in court cases. I'm guessing it

1086
01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 2>was whoever wrote the check got represented. Maybe maybe not.

1087
01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:27.840
<v Speaker 2>His poem Defense of Fort ma Henry has four stanzas.

1088
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.760
<v Speaker 2>We only sing the first one as the US anthem.

1089
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.000
<v Speaker 2>The other stanzas have some pretty racist language in them.

1090
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 2>If you care to go ahead and read them yourself.

1091
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to leave that to you. Make that your

1092
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 2>homework assignment, because we're not going to read them here.

1093
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I will leave that to you.

1094
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 12>Now.

1095
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.119
<v Speaker 2>The words that he wrote happened to fit a popular

1096
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 2>tune called the Anacreontic Song, which was the official tune

1097
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:58.439
<v Speaker 2>of the Anacreontic Society, which was an amateur musician gentlemen's

1098
01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:01.880
<v Speaker 2>club in London, England. Nowadays we would just call it

1099
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like a garage band, but they didn't have garages back then.

1100
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:11.079
<v Speaker 2>A horse barn, a carriage house, ben.

1101
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:13.479
<v Speaker 4>A garage, a garage.

1102
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.479
<v Speaker 2>I stay corrected, You are absolutely correct. You know we

1103
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:21.680
<v Speaker 2>could call it a bro jam. How about that. There

1104
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you go, so you get the idea. Things were a

1105
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:27.399
<v Speaker 2>little bit more formal back then. The society was named

1106
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.520
<v Speaker 2>after the ancient Greek poet Anacreon, who wrote drinking songs

1107
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and erotic poems. Rock and roll. So at their yeah.

1108
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Awesome.

1109
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.119
<v Speaker 2>So at their meetings they would have a guest, either

1110
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a composer or a performer, come in, often quite famous,

1111
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 2>like Hiding the composer Hyden, who was still famous to

1112
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 2>this day. He was famous in his day. He would

1113
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.920
<v Speaker 2>come in, speak, perform, do his own songs and then

1114
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 2>and the members of the group would perform their own songs,

1115
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.239
<v Speaker 2>have their little jam sessions themselves. Now the Society seems

1116
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.439
<v Speaker 2>to have fallen apart because in seventeen ninety two they

1117
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:14.279
<v Speaker 2>had a duchess attend as a guest, and their subject

1118
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:17.479
<v Speaker 2>material was questionable, to say the least at the time,

1119
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.119
<v Speaker 2>and would not have gone over well with a duchess

1120
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:23.560
<v Speaker 2>being present. So I think everybody kind of side eyed

1121
01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:25.680
<v Speaker 2>it and everything fizzled out after that.

1122
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.399
<v Speaker 8>Prior to that, were there women, there no.

1123
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Gentlemen's club, Nope, nope, nope, nope. So yeah, that kind

1124
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.239
<v Speaker 2>of burst the bubble just a little bit. But the

1125
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Society's theme was composed by John Stafford Smith, who was

1126
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 2>a well known composer and music historian at the time.

1127
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 14>Why do these guys always have three names?

1128
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:46.800
<v Speaker 4>Who?

1129
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Because they had a lot more time. The lyrics are

1130
01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:57.199
<v Speaker 2>attributed to Ralph Tomlinson two names, who was president of

1131
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the Society at the time. The whole thing was ritten

1132
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:04.680
<v Speaker 2>around seventeen seventy three. Nobody's entirely sure of exact timeframe,

1133
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 2>but the melody became so popular that people would write

1134
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 2>new lyrics over it and there were just countless versions

1135
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.319
<v Speaker 2>over and over. Like folk songs. They knew the melody

1136
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and they would just write lyrics to fit whatever occasion

1137
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:15.800
<v Speaker 2>they want.

1138
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Mike, that's like one of the most unsingable pieces on

1139
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the planet.

1140
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, why do.

1141
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:21.239
<v Speaker 4>You hear it?

1142
01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1143
01:17:22.479 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 2>So our national anthem is actually a spoof on a

1144
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.000
<v Speaker 2>body British drinking song.

1145
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:31.319
<v Speaker 14>Yea, I love it.

1146
01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:34.880
<v Speaker 2>So let's go over the first verse of the original song.

1147
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:39.039
<v Speaker 2>The idea of the tune is the society is asking

1148
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:43.680
<v Speaker 2>an Acreon to basically be their party bro, come join us,

1149
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.439
<v Speaker 2>be the group leader, and he agrees to it. So

1150
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics to an Acreon in heaven, where he sat

1151
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.079
<v Speaker 2>in full glee, a few sons of harmony sent a

1152
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 2>petition that he there inspirer and patron would be all right.

1153
01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:03.600
<v Speaker 2>So the sons of harmonies are asking him to come

1154
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:07.520
<v Speaker 2>join us. When his answer arrived from the jolly old

1155
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Grecian voice, fiddle and flute no longer be mute. I'll

1156
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>lend you my name and inspire you to boot. And besides,

1157
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll instruct you like me to entwine the myrtle of

1158
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Venus with Bacchus's vine. Now the Myrtle of Venus is

1159
01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a plant dedicated to Venus, the goddess of love, and

1160
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:32.119
<v Speaker 2>was thought to be an aphrodisiac at the time. Bacchus

1161
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>was the Roman god of wine and agriculture, so Bacchus's

1162
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 2>vine would be the wine that they're talking about. So

1163
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>this song is sex and alcohol.

1164
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:44.319
<v Speaker 4>I thought Bacchus was.

1165
01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And mister Magoo, yeah he's a few generations later. Oh yeah,

1166
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:54.159
<v Speaker 2>he's coming back. So all right, so that is the

1167
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>song that our national anthem is based on. We're going

1168
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to hear the original song. And this recording was done

1169
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.039
<v Speaker 2>by a group called the Star Spangled Music Foundation, which

1170
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was a nonprofit back in twenty thirteen. I went digging.

1171
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to find out more about them, but their

1172
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:14.239
<v Speaker 2>website is down, so I don't know what their status is.

1173
01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the group disbanded or what happened.

1174
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But when they did this recording, they used the harpsichord,

1175
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:25.039
<v Speaker 2>which would have been accurate for seventeen seventy three. Harpsichord

1176
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:27.359
<v Speaker 2>has a very distinctive sound. You've heard it before, even

1177
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:29.399
<v Speaker 2>if you didn't know what it was. If you've never

1178
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:33.039
<v Speaker 2>seen one, they look like a little grand piano, but

1179
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:36.039
<v Speaker 2>they're often embellished with a lot of artwork and brighter

1180
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:37.960
<v Speaker 2>colors and figures.

1181
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.119
<v Speaker 3>And it's what Lurch plays.

1182
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Lurch plays yep, yep, but you only see

1183
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that in black and white. You don't actually see how

1184
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.039
<v Speaker 2>fancy that they would make these harpsichords. They really they

1185
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:51.800
<v Speaker 2>would deck these things out. You know Eddie van Hilen's

1186
01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Franken guitar kind of thing, same idea, that's nothing new.

1187
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:01.319
<v Speaker 2>The difference is that in a piano, the strings are

1188
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:03.920
<v Speaker 2>struck by a hammer, so the player presses a key,

1189
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the key moves a hammer, the hammer hits the string,

1190
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>so you can play loudly, you can play softly, depending

1191
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.439
<v Speaker 2>on how hard you hit the key. On a harpsichord,

1192
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the keys are a little bit smaller. The scale of

1193
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the keys is smaller. So it's funny if you see

1194
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.199
<v Speaker 2>an experienced piano player sit down and try to play

1195
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:23.279
<v Speaker 2>a harpsichord, because they invariably mess it up because their

1196
01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>fingers are hitting the wrong keys because the scale is

1197
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit smaller. And when a key is pressed

1198
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.800
<v Speaker 2>on a harpsichord, it lifts up a strip of void

1199
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:35.600
<v Speaker 2>called a jack, and the jack is attached to a plectrum,

1200
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.239
<v Speaker 2>which is usually the tip of a quill, and the

1201
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:41.079
<v Speaker 2>string is actually plucked instead of hit with a hammer,

1202
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>so it's actually plucked upward with the tip of a quill.

1203
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.439
<v Speaker 2>So no matter how hard you hit the keys on

1204
01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>a harpsichord, the volume remains the same. It's always plucked

1205
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:53.199
<v Speaker 2>with the same same amount, so it's the same volume.

1206
01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>So if you wanted to make something louder on a harpsichord,

1207
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.199
<v Speaker 2>they would play octaves, so you'd get the same note,

1208
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:00.880
<v Speaker 2>but you'd hear, you know, two notes at the same time,

1209
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>so it would be a little bit louder. Yeah, gotcha,

1210
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>all right, So we went over the lyrics. It's a

1211
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:10.640
<v Speaker 2>song in more of an operatic style with the harpsichord,

1212
01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>but it's still sex and drugs and alcohol. So here

1213
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.359
<v Speaker 2>you go the Anacreontic song from seventeen seventy three. Oh,

1214
01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, we're only gonna do two verses. So

1215
01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:24.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a verse in the chorus, a verse and the chorus,

1216
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and then you get the idea and that's enough, all right,

1217
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:28.359
<v Speaker 2>so we don't have to do the whole thing, all right.

1218
01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Here we go on.

1219
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:32.880
<v Speaker 10>Where he's hot.

1220
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:36.359
<v Speaker 11>A few songs of.

1221
01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:39.399
<v Speaker 9>And talk about this.

1222
01:21:40.359 --> 01:21:47.479
<v Speaker 11>That's the inspirer on the page on when it's a answer.

1223
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:48.840
<v Speaker 9>All arrived from.

1224
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:49.760
<v Speaker 6>The jolly.

1225
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:52.199
<v Speaker 9>Boy spit on.

1226
01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:59.279
<v Speaker 11>No longer be huge, Ill lane you my name and

1227
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:05.239
<v Speaker 11>inspire you to boot. And besides, I'll instruct you like

1228
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:06.239
<v Speaker 11>me too.

1229
01:22:06.399 --> 01:22:13.479
<v Speaker 19>In fine they in us when a bacasas line and

1230
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:25.680
<v Speaker 19>SI shot you like me to in finetic.

1231
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:28.199
<v Speaker 23>News to.

1232
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:30.840
<v Speaker 11>Passing media.

1233
01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:38.319
<v Speaker 21>If when a fonder preturn to agave himself pays, These

1234
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 21>mortols are sofer the team to pursue the time.

1235
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:51.720
<v Speaker 11>God, this will stay hardt. But already they cry, and

1236
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:58.239
<v Speaker 11>transports of joy all way to the sons of anacron

1237
01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:03.520
<v Speaker 11>will fly under that. We've got a puddles weln to

1238
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:10.359
<v Speaker 11>in wine. That's a lot as coss whine.

1239
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we all had the urge to raise our

1240
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:32.720
<v Speaker 2>drinks and sway back and forth right, absolutely a drinking song. Right,

1241
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So there we go. That's our anthem right there.

1242
01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:40.760
<v Speaker 8>So what did they think of it when they changed

1243
01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:43.000
<v Speaker 8>it or was vastly different.

1244
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>It didn't become our national anthem till the nineteen thirties.

1245
01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:51.640
<v Speaker 8>Oh okay, so officially anybody around for that version had

1246
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:52.319
<v Speaker 8>no clue.

1247
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:54.960
<v Speaker 2>They've heard so many versions of it because it was

1248
01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:59.560
<v Speaker 2>such a popular melody that I don't think anybody cared.

1249
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:06.039
<v Speaker 8>I would guess, yeah, I mean it's just funny because

1250
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:10.279
<v Speaker 8>it's too completely different, uh.

1251
01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:19.000
<v Speaker 13>Huh and drinking and bombs, yeah, the whole concept of everything.

1252
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:23.039
<v Speaker 8>So who decided to change it to the national anthem?

1253
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:25.640
<v Speaker 8>Like knowing the history of.

1254
01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:28.479
<v Speaker 2>It, I don't know. I don't actually know, you know what,

1255
01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>that would have been a good thing to look into.

1256
01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:36.119
<v Speaker 13>I guess you were so be funneled by what you

1257
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.680
<v Speaker 13>did find out that it distracted you from further investigation.

1258
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>It's the kind of thing, you know, papers are written on.

1259
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>And how long can I make you sit there and

1260
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:46.159
<v Speaker 2>listen to.

1261
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:50.920
<v Speaker 17>Complicated and colorful.

1262
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you know, we have to find that

1263
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:57.239
<v Speaker 2>right balance of entertainment and facts, so.

1264
01:24:58.800 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 12>We'll have.

1265
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I think so well, now, you know, right next time

1266
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you hear it, you're gonna start giggling and no one

1267
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>else is gonna know why.

1268
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:15.399
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely every day, I'm just impressed, As I said off air,

1269
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm just impressed. The one guy hit that high note,

1270
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and that is not easy, trust me.

1271
01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it was those tight pantaloons they will.

1272
01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hoist up your breeches.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>And also in those days, they didn't have a right

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<v Speaker 13>or a left shoe. They just had one a shoe

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<v Speaker 13>and yeah, those must have hurt. So that would really

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<v Speaker 13>help you hit those high notes.

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<v Speaker 14>Pantaloons and tight shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's all I've got for tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>You know you're leaving you're leaving out a very important,

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<v Speaker 4>very important fact here, but I don't think you even

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<v Speaker 4>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what's that?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? The topic for today was what Okay, now, the

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<v Speaker 4>star Spangled banner is what the American flag? What is

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<v Speaker 4>another nickname for the American flag?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the grand old flag, Old Glory, Old Glory.

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<v Speaker 4>You completely glossed over that, and I'm like waiting for it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, I have to, I have to point

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<v Speaker 4>this out to you, old Glory.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, you totally nailed the topic.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Cool, So that means it's the perfect time

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<v Speaker 2>to pull the plug.

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<v Speaker 8>And you get all the points.

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<v Speaker 14>Kick off those big buckled shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sit back, loosen your breeches. All right, Yeah, it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to go. Definitely time to everybody, holds your drink up

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna we're gonna make our our classy exit.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, all right. Thank you Mercedes for a

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<v Speaker 2>good topic, excellent choice as always, Crambones, awesome selections across

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<v Speaker 2>the board, and thank you all for joining us here

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<v Speaker 2>for the Rock and Roll History Show. Please remember to

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<v Speaker 2>is something for everybody. We'll see you next week with

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<v Speaker 2>another brand new episode. Until then, start singing drinking songs

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<v Speaker 2>and wave your drink in the air and have some

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<v Speaker 2>fun and we'll see you next week. Peace out, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Bottom Okay, bye bye.

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