1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: He's Disney John and he's Dayton, and we're from the 2 00:00:03,319 --> 00:00:05,519 Docking Base seventy seven podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Friendly Nerds discussing what they're listening to, watching and reading. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 3: But we're not here to talk about us. Oh heck, now, 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,679 we're here to talk about our friends, Jason. 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Indeed, today the guys are diving into two of the 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,359 most gloriously oddball comedies. The nineteen eighties ever gave. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Us Tim Burton's Pee Wee's Big Adventure and Weird Owl's UACHEF. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,320 One's about a man and his beloved bicycle, and the. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,519 Speaker 1: Other is about a man and his beloved UHF station, 11 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:31,600 which is basically the same thing, right. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,799 Speaker 2: Well, except one gave us Lark smart and the other 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,320 gave us Gandhi with a machine gun. 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,799 Speaker 1: One taught us how not to chain up your bike. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: And the other taught us that, yes, you really can 16 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,560 open a store that sells only spatulis. 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,039 Speaker 1: So put on your red bow tie court grab a 18 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:47,719 twinky Wiener sandwich, because Pee Wee and Weird Al are 19 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:50,840 about to get weird. Wait, surely you can't be serious. 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Okay, boys and girls, Today's secret word is weird. All right, 22 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:17,359 we are here to talk about a couple of weird movies. 23 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:23,280 We have got two incredible icons of the eighties who 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,200 are famous for being quirky and different and changing the 25 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:29,920 way that we view things. We're here today to talk 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,439 about pee Wee Herman's Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes, and 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:43,280 we're here today to talk about weird Al Yankovic's uh F. Yes. Yeah, 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,200 we're gonna have to call him Al or we're going 29 00:01:45,239 --> 00:01:48,120 to be screaming the whole show. That's right, that's right. 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,680 We are comparing these two movies. Pee Wee's Big Adventure 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,799 came out in nineteen eighty five. UHF came out in 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,840 nineteen eighty nine. Both of them are cult classics. One 33 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:00,879 of them did well in the and one of them 34 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:04,400 did not. And we're gonna kind of explain why and 35 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:06,599 just a bit. But this is just gonna be a 36 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:09,520 fun little ride. I talked to Jason. He's been bugging 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,759 me to do Pee Wee's Big Adventure four years now. 38 00:02:12,879 --> 00:02:15,960 I have, and I never I had never seen the 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 movie all the way through. It's seen bits and pieces 40 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:20,080 of it. I remember seeing Pee Wee's Playhouse a bit 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,439 when I was young. I remember seeing Peewee at the 42 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,479 Big Top. Is that what it was called? Peewee Big Top? Peewee, 43 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,919 that's it. I saw that one in the theater. Thought 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,960 it was great. Apparently I was one of the few 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,879 people who thought it was great. 46 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 47 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, did not do well. But I got to finally 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,560 watch it all the way through for the first time. 49 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:40,919 You kind of dragged me kicking and screaming so anxious 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,240 to hear what you think. I'm excited to talk about it. 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,960 I had a good time to you know, no spoiler, 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,159 but yeah, I had a good time watching this movie, 53 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:50,560 even though I had a lot of reservations about watching it. 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,719 And we're talking about UHF, which I listened to our 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,199 weird episode which came out back in twenty twenty too, 56 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:03,439 almost this time back then, and we had talked about that. 57 00:03:03,479 --> 00:03:07,759 We had bumped UHF to cover that movie, the biopic 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,840 starring Daniel Radcliffe. It was interesting, you know, it's three 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,919 years ago and we have talked about doing UHF every 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,159 single year since then, and then finally it just it 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,199 dawned on us as we were trying to figure out 62 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:23,199 what to compare Pee Wee's Big Adventure to UHF was 63 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:24,960 the obvious choice. Yeah, it was. 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,599 Speaker 4: So for the longest time, I've had kind of a 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,280 special connection with UHF because it was filmed in my hometown. 66 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:34,159 The Outsiders was filmed in my hometown. 67 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:36,759 Speaker 3: But I was a little kid. I was like nine, right. 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,719 Speaker 4: So I couldn't have gone anywhere, you know, But UHF. 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,280 I remember on the local radio station the guys saying, Hey, 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,240 they're shooting a scene at sixty first in Peoria today. 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,479 They need extras. It's weird Al. Everybody, come down. You 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,080 want to be in a movie, come on down. And 73 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,560 next song on the countdown is Sweets Out of Mine. 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,879 So that was summer of nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, so 75 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:02,639 weird Al was in town. I knew where he was staying, 76 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:06,080 like the place, you know, the Kingsington Mall allowed him 77 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,439 to It was a hotel connected to a mall, so 78 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:10,400 you could stay and shoot kind of all in the 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,280 same spot. 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: All right. 81 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then just a few weeks ago, you and 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,599 I took a day trip to Tulsa made a video 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 with all the UHF locations we could find, plus a 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,759 few extras. Yeah, go to our YouTube page, check that out. 85 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:23,759 Speaker 3: It's really cool. It's very fun. We had a great time. 86 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: We had a great time doing that, and then little 87 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:28,360 did we know, but weird out was playing. 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: Yes, he was playing at the. 89 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: Brady Theater like a couple of days after we were there. 90 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: Which is across the street from Cooney's Karate School. So 91 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:41,639 you gotta gotta go check out that video to find that. 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,000 I mean, it was it was serendipitous. We just happened 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,839 to We were like, oh, let's go shoot something at 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,399 the Brady Theater and there we saw weird Awl's name 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,759 as the only name on the marquee. It was just 96 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,680 pretty spectacular. 97 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: It meant to be Cooney's Karate School and the Brady 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,399 Theater share a parking lot. 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. So all right, to get. 100 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,079 Speaker 4: Us started, I guess we got to kick this thing 101 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,920 off with Peb's Big Adventure because that's the first Movie's a. 102 00:05:05,959 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: Lot of things about me. 103 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: You don't know anything about that. 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Things he wouldn't understand, things he couldn't understand, things you 105 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,560 shouldn't understand. 106 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously we'll start with Paul Rubins case you 107 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:23,079 don't know, that's the actor who plays Pee Wee Herman, 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,759 which I didn't know for the longest time, like until 109 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:28,879 he got arrested. I think was when I was like, oh, 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,240 his name is not pee Wee Herman, right, which was 111 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:34,800 kind of by design, like he had specifically he had 112 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,800 decided this was going to be he was going to 113 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:40,240 keep this as his public persona. Just he was doing 114 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,959 multiple interviews because the character is really what made him famous, 115 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:46,720 and he was doing interviews where he would have to 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,120 be both people, and finally he's just decided, I'm just 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,360 not going to be Paul anymore for interviews for the 118 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,319 public life, I'm only going to be pee Wee. So 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,800 where did pee Wee begin? 120 00:05:56,079 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: Well, he was born and kind of raised early in 121 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:01,120 New York, So while he was still a kid, his 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,920 family picked up and moved to Sarasota, Florida, Yes, which 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,639 that was actually the off season home of Ringling Brothers 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,079 and Barnum and Bailey Circus. And so he got to 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,319 go to like circus camp and started becoming like a performer, 126 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:19,199 almost took an interest in becoming maybe a circus performer. 127 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:21,959 Well after he graduated from high school, he had an 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,959 interest in wanted to discover the artistic side of himself, 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,120 and so he moved out to California and enrolled in 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,199 cal Arts and in his cow Arts class was David Hasselhoff. 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,519 Speaker 3: David Hasselhoff of night Rider fame and. 132 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:40,399 Speaker 4: And like Europe's greatest singer of. 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: All time off yeah huff. 134 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,319 Speaker 4: And then also Katie Segal was in his class. She 135 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:50,439 goes plays Peg Bundy and so he starts to kind 136 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,120 of grow and expand as a performer there at cal Arts. 137 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he was wanting to be a serious actor. 138 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:58,800 I mean, he did serious stuff at that time, and 139 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,079 I think it was just he was very popular at 140 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:03,079 the school and a school full of artists. He was 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,399 still kind of the guy that everybody admired, and she 142 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:09,560 stood out. Yeah, he stood out. So ultimately he after 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,720 college he joins the Groundlings, that's. 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: Right, and the Groundlings are kind of a improv group. 145 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,199 It was kind of a class. It wasn't really a 146 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:20,240 thing until people started to become attracted to him and 147 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:22,160 wanted to get involved. And then they're like, well, we 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,959 need to like come up with a name for ourselves 149 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 and put on shows and so yeah, from the Groundlings, 150 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,319 like Edie McClure, the secretary from Ferris Bueler's day Off. 151 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: Yes, freaking hilarious. Yep. 152 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,879 Speaker 4: She works the counter and planes trains and auomobiles. 153 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and so she's in it. And of course you 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,519 have Paul Rubins, Lorain Newman, Lorain Newman, one of. 155 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:44,959 Speaker 4: The earliest members of Saturday Night Live. Yep, Cassandra Sandra Peterson, 156 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,639 there you go, who played Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. 157 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: Yes. So Cassandra Peterson talks about when she first came 158 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:53,160 to the school, she was still just barely developing the 159 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,399 Elvira character, and she saw two guys talking to each 160 00:07:56,439 --> 00:08:00,480 other and it was Paul Rubins and John Paragne and said, 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,480 I immediately said, I'm going to make friends with those guys. 162 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Like they just had such a great chemistry. She could 163 00:08:06,759 --> 00:08:08,439 just tell that they were the guys that she wanted. 164 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,279 And she was like, it's a little Stockerish, but I 165 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,360 wanted to be with those guys because they knew they 166 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:15,680 had such great ability to improv and riff off of 167 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 each other. Now, if you don't know who John Peregrine is, 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,240 you might know him as John by the Genie in 169 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:26,439 Peewe's Playhouse. A High mech A, Heidi ho Now everyone 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:32,600 at home, Mecca Leca High, Mecca, Heiney Ho, Mecha Heney Ho. 171 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:36,639 And as a connection to these two movies, he is 172 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,200 Fletcher Junior. He's the I'm sorry, did I do that? 173 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,320 You blew my mind when you send that to me 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,519 this week. Yes. So John Peregrine, who doesn't have a 175 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,000 whole lot of other stuff to his to his name, 176 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:53,720 is a major player in both of these, both of 177 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:56,919 these scenarios. Right, he's not in I don't think he's 178 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,559 I don't think he's in pee Wee's Adventure? What is 179 00:08:59,600 --> 00:08:59,960 he where? 180 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: He is one of the guys on the Warner Brothers lot. 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a very small, small part like breeze by 182 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,039 a part, but a major player for not only pee 183 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:12,720 Wee's Playhouse later on, but his stage show, the pee 184 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,840 Wee Herman Show, which we'll get to here in just 185 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:17,399 a second. Right, that's right, that's right. So at the 186 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,279 ground links, Paul Rubin realizes he's like, you know what, 187 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,000 I'm funny, Like I'm good at being funny. I don't 188 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,399 know why I'm so focused on all this serious work. 189 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,679 When I enjoy being funny, I get laughs. And so 190 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,480 this may be my road to success. And so he 191 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:39,519 develops this incredible character that is a lounge singing Native America. 192 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:40,000 You know what. 193 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,039 Speaker 4: I saw him talk about this. He said it wasn't 194 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,600 just racist, it was blatantly incredibly racist. And he's like, 195 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,679 I didn't really realize that it's. 196 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: A different time. And he's late seventies, early eighties. I mean, 197 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,759 he's watching The Village People, and. 198 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,519 Speaker 4: He thought this is my ticket out, Like this is 199 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,039 the character that I've I'm gonna be make famous with. Yeah, 200 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 and he's like, thank god that didn't come true because 201 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:08,120 it was so racist. But you know, he created like 202 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:09,399 dozens of. 203 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: Characters, dozens, and anybody else who's in these comedy troops 204 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,039 who has these dozens of characters. He goes to audition 205 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:19,600 for Saturday Night Live and he thinks he's got it, 206 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,519 Like he's at the top of his game, he's got 207 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,759 all these characters. He's raring to go, and. 208 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: Everybody else is telling him you're shoeing, you got it. 209 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,519 Speaker 3: And he gets there and he's watching this guy perform 210 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,360 and he's like, who is this guy? And they're like, oh, 211 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,519 that's one of the producer's best friends. And he's like, 212 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,360 oh no. He's like he's the nerdy guy. Like there 213 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,559 you have a select group of people in Saturday Night Live. 214 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:46,360 One of them is going to be the nerdy guy. 215 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,519 It's gonna be him. And that guy was Gilbert Godfrey 216 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:52,879 Gilbert And so he was right. He did not get 217 00:10:52,919 --> 00:10:55,000 cast in Saturday Night Live, and he thought his career 218 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,240 was over. He thought it was done, and then inspiration strikes. Yeah. 219 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 4: So he goes back home and one of the things 220 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,360 that he learned from Saturday Night Live he was so 221 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 desperate to get in that he didn't want to be 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,879 dependent on anybody else. And so he thought, you know what, 223 00:11:08,919 --> 00:11:11,519 I'm going to take control of myself and control what 224 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,559 I can control. And so he had a character that 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,840 he had been developing that seemed to be received well 226 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:21,279 by audiences, and so he thought, I'm going with this character. 227 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: Right, And so this character is pee Wee Hermer, we Hearman, good. 228 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: Murder, baby Boy, mister breakfast? 229 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 2: Can I te cereal? 230 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 5: Okay? 231 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:39,159 Speaker 3: A pity the poor fool, don't keep my cereal. So 232 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,559 he develops this entire basically skit show, a stage production 233 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,519 called the Pee Wee Herman Show. And John Peregrin is 234 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,480 a factor in that, like they're literally driving around. He's like, 235 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,480 I want to be a genie. They're driving around and 236 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:55,000 they see a sign. I think it was like a 237 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:59,159 grocery store sign. But Jombie is it's Johnby's place, and 238 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,720 he says that's They're both like, that's the name. That's 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,000 gotta be John By, the genie, right, the genie. And 240 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,480 then of course the other guy that's helping out is 241 00:12:06,799 --> 00:12:07,480 Phil Hartman. 242 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: So Phil Hartman was at first kind of too shy 243 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:12,399 to join the Groundlings. 244 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very straight laced guy. Is in advertising, 245 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:18,399 I think, and just he made like album covers. Oh yeah, 246 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:22,080 he was designing. Yeah, that's right, designing graphic art for 247 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:23,279 album covers. That's right. 248 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: But he was drawn to them, so he kind of 249 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:28,240 hung around, but he didn't feel good enough to get 250 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,960 involved until he did. 251 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,399 Speaker 3: Until he did, and then he and. 252 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:35,279 Speaker 4: Paul Rubens hit it off and became really good friends. 253 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's he was a major writer, not only 254 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:40,320 for the Pee Wee Herman Show. He performed in the 255 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Pee Wee Herman Show. But what happens with the Pee 256 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,759 Wee Herman Show is that they start in the small 257 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:48,279 theater in the Groundlings Theater, less than one hundred people, 258 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:50,279 like ninety nine people. But they sell out, and then 259 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 they keep selling out and they're like, Okay, we got 260 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,440 to go to a bigger place than they do, The Roxy, 261 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,240 the Roxy, and they sell out the Roxy. And one 262 00:12:57,279 --> 00:12:59,480 of the people that sees them perform at the Roxy, 263 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,120 it's the Martin, Steve freaking Martin, and Steve Martin is like, 264 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,000 here's my manager. You need to talk to him. And 265 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:08,919 this guy had a protege. That guy became Pee Herman's manager. 266 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:10,519 He came in like he knew what he was doing, 267 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:11,919 and he said, here's what we're going to do. We're 268 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:13,919 going to take this stage show and we are going 269 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 to make it a nationwide tour. And what we want 270 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,559 to do is develop enough of a following that by 271 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 the time we're done, that you are such a well 272 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:26,360 known name and such a draw, such an influencer at 273 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:29,919 the time before that term really existed, that the studios 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,000 won't have any way to say no to developing a 275 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:35,639 full movie for you, right, And that's exactly what they did. 276 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,639 And they they sell out Carnegie Hall, they sell out 277 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:41,720 every like for twenty two shows, They sell out the theaters, 278 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,080 and they make their way all the way back to 279 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,440 la and at their final show, it is full of 280 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,960 Hollywood producers and he gets a standing ovation at the 281 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,720 end of the show that goes on and on and on, 282 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,240 and their plan worked perfectly because Warner Brothers said, we 283 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,200 want to make your movie. It's incredible. 284 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: So I was you in nineteen eighty one HBO, early HBO, 285 00:14:04,159 --> 00:14:06,080 when they had about five things to show. 286 00:14:06,799 --> 00:14:10,159 Speaker 3: They broadcast the when it was still called Home Box Office. 287 00:14:10,759 --> 00:14:13,519 Speaker 4: So me and I spent the night with some buddies 288 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,559 and we watched the Pee Wee Herman Show, which at 289 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,559 that time was not directed at kids. 290 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,159 Speaker 3: It was adult humor framed in. 291 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:22,559 Speaker 4: It like a kid's show, and we thought it was 292 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,519 the freak and hilarious. It was the funniest thing we'd 293 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:26,000 ever seen. 294 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,399 Speaker 3: What is this mermaid missing? 295 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: But you know he he hypnotizes a woman and he 296 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,399 makes her take off our clothes on stage and we thought, 297 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,679 oh my god, this is the pinnacle of humor. Of course, 298 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,480 that woman was a part of the Groundlings as well, 299 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,600 so that. 300 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: HBO show was huge. 301 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:51,559 Speaker 4: Party Colner Artie Colner directed that. That's right, and he 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,200 went on to do hard knocks in the White Video Guy. Yeah, Yeah, 303 00:14:55,279 --> 00:14:57,960 but in the early eighties, he would go on the 304 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:00,679 David Letterman Show and like kind of the precursor to 305 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,679 the Larry King Show. 306 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:03,919 Speaker 3: There was a show on CNN that came on late. 307 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:06,559 Speaker 4: At night, and he would go on and be interviewed 308 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,799 not as Paul Rubins but as pee Wee Herman. And 309 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,840 he would also come on David Letterman. And he said 310 00:15:10,879 --> 00:15:12,600 he and Dave kind of hit it off that out 311 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:13,240 of chemistry. 312 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave was a good straight man for his goofy 313 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:16,320 pee Wee. 314 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,879 Speaker 4: Herman, and he was a regular who came on like 315 00:15:17,879 --> 00:15:19,919 every two months or so, and so he had kind 316 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,080 of built this thing with Letterman and his show, and 317 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:25,279 Warner Brothers is like, yes, we want to make a 318 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:25,759 movie with you. 319 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:28,279 Speaker 3: Right, So he and Phil Hartman and a guy named 320 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,799 Michael Farhall get together and they start working on the 321 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:34,320 script and they've got They've got sid Field's screenplay. You know, 322 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,200 the boy. This is the guidebook on how to write 323 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,600 a screenplay. I read it whenever I was in college 324 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,360 doing my screenwriting class. It's I mean, it's here's how 325 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,000 you do it. This is the way you write. And 326 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,840 they followed it letter for letter, note for note. But 327 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,759 what they were trying to do. Initially when they were 328 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:52,360 writing it was they were trying to Paul Rubens's favorite 329 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,440 movie was Pollyanna with Hayley Mills in it, and he 330 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,399 was trying to write Pee Wee as Paullyanna. And they're 331 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:00,759 on the Warner Brothers a lot and he notices, like 332 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,320 everybody on the lot is getting around on bicycles, like 333 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,120 they you know, there are a few people who've got 334 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,559 the golf cards, but really no cars are driving around. 335 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,919 Everybody's driving around bicycles. And he keeps going like, what 336 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,720 do I gotta do to get a bicycle? Why can't 337 00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:15,519 I have a bicycle? Right? And so after weeks of this, 338 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,639 he shows up and as a gift, there is just 339 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,360 this gift waiting for him of this vintage swim like 340 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:28,279 nineteen forties fifties model bicycle, red and white, beautiful, and 341 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,519 he says, in that moment, I realized this is what 342 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,639 the script has to become. We're riding the wrong movie. 343 00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,120 We're riding the wrong movie. They go scrap everything that 344 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:41,279 they've written so far and they make it a His 345 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,600 big adventure is his bike gets stolen and he has 346 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:46,399 to go get it back Peewee. 347 00:16:46,159 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: Loves his bike more than he loves life itself and 348 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:50,360 it gets stolen. 349 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's kind of loosely based on The 350 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,240 Bicycle Thieves, which I think is nineteen forties forty eight 351 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,879 something like that. So then they they've got it, and 352 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:00,759 they've got their script and they you were telling me 353 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,360 that you paused it, like they've got there, they've got 354 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,839 their corkboard where they're putting the post it notes up, 355 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,480 and you said that it was it was like, how 356 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:08,839 did it go? 357 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:13,079 Speaker 4: So I'm looking at this picture of Phil Hartman, Michael Varhall, 358 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:15,960 and Paul Rubens in there at the writing place, and 359 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,079 behind them are a bunch of post it notes, and 360 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,079 so I freeze and I look and I zoom in. 361 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,799 One post it note says ghost Trucker, one note says Alamo, 362 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:27,880 uh huh, one note says Rodeo Cowboy. 363 00:17:28,039 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: And it was just these ideas. Yeah, well those. 364 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: Ideas are weaved through the entire movie, which makes it 365 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:34,359 freaking hilarious. 366 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: It's a simple plot structure that allows them to weave 367 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,319 together these vignettes, very much like National Lampoon Vacation, where 368 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:44,400 you know you've got a road trip and you can 369 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,000 just these things happen along the way. It's a very 370 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:49,839 easy way to string these things together, which will come 371 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,000 up when we talk about UHF as well, of course, 372 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,440 no doubt. And so they've got their script and they're 373 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,680 ready to find a director and Paul Rubins makes a 374 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 list of one hundred and fifty director Like he's like thinking, 375 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:05,200 thinking of every movie that I love, I'm going to 376 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,240 you know, if I was anything I liked about the 377 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,039 movie at all, I'm putting that director's name down. And 378 00:18:10,079 --> 00:18:12,400 so he gives the studio his list of one hundred 379 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,720 and fifty directors and they come back with one that's 380 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:16,720 not on the list. And he looks at this and 381 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:18,640 he's like, what has this guy done? And he looks 382 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,200 and he's like, this is the wrong guy. This is 383 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,160 not the right guy. And so he comes to him. 384 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,799 He's like, I'm not going to do it with this guy. 385 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so I sent you a video clip this week. Yeah, 386 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,960 he dug his heels in on this. But keep in 387 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,119 mind this is he's not a movie star yet. 388 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: Neither was Sylvester Stallone. That's right. 389 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,519 Speaker 4: His inspiration was Sylvester Stallone and the way he handled 390 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:42,680 the Rocky franchise. So if you'll remember Sylvester Stallone, which 391 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,200 we've never covered Rocky or any of the Rocky movies, which. 392 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:47,079 Speaker 3: We will do. Yeah, there's no question we will. 393 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,039 Speaker 4: So Sylvester Stallone had written the script for Rocky and 394 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:52,200 when he took it to the studio, they said, great, 395 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,759 we want to make this movie. Maybe we could have 396 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,160 Chuck Norris be the boxer or whatever. He's like, no, no, no, 397 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:01,000 I'm going to be the actor. And they said no, 398 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,599 we got to get somebody else. And he said, well 399 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:06,559 then it's not for sale basically right, and he decided 400 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:09,480 this is the criteria. I'm the star if you want 401 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,279 to make my movie. And he went all in on himself, right, 402 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,319 And so Paul Rubins was like, well, Sylvester Stallone did it, 403 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,920 I'm going to do that as well. 404 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:18,599 Speaker 3: And he got some advice. 405 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: They're like, listen, the winds of change happened fast around here. 406 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:24,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, people in the studio are gone. You're going to 407 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,400 get You're going to not have your picture anymore. 408 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: And he said, I'm willing to tough it out. 409 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the way that they put it to him 410 00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,960 was if you can find a director by whatever, it 411 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,559 was one week. Yeah, one week. He got one week 412 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:40,920 to find a director. They have to be approvable, affordable, 413 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,160 and available. The three a's pretty pretty tough call, right, 414 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,480 I mean, if you're in Hollywood and you're a good director, 415 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:50,960 you're probably working right. And so he goes he's trying 416 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,519 to find people. He's not having any luck, and he 417 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,200 goes to a party that is being thrown by a 418 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,519 friend of his who used to be a manager at 419 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,119 a restaurant he worked at as a waiter or something, 420 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,079 you know, just I mean, and he's just like, I 421 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,400 can't find anybody. He's like, do you know any directors? 422 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,000 And she's like, yes, I do. And he's like, oh who, 423 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:14,119 and she's she says, there's this young guy. I think 424 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,759 he works over at Warner Brothers actually, and he's made 425 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:19,359 a couple of little short things. I think he'd be 426 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,599 great for you. His name is Tim Burton. Pee. He's 427 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,359 never seen this, never seen any of Tim Burton's work, 428 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,640 but he looks and sees that Shelley Duvall is in 429 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,559 this movie, this small movie that Tim has made called 430 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,599 Franken Weeniye, and Shelley Duvall is a friend of his. Yes, 431 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:38,599 and so he calls her and he says, can you 432 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,680 tell me here's my situation, And she's like, oh, Paul, 433 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:47,119 he's perfect. He is perfect for you. So he watches 434 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,200 Frank and Weenie and he says, three scenes in he 435 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,079 knows this is the perfect director for his movie. And 436 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,720 as it turns out, he's approvable, he's available, and he's affordable, 437 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,480 and he wants to do the movie too. Well, that's 438 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:01,920 the thing. 439 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: Once he said yeah, Tim Burton and a lot of 440 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:05,200 people were like. 441 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:07,559 Speaker 3: Oh, he turns down stuff all the time. He won't 442 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:09,880 ever do it. Turned down everything. Yeah, he turned He 443 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,640 had so many scripts coming to him and turning them 444 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,119 all down, and when he saw this one, he said, 445 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,720 this is the movie I want to make as my 446 00:21:16,799 --> 00:21:19,400 first real movie. You think about it. 447 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,759 Speaker 4: They're both quirky characters. Yeah, they're both ultra creative, very 448 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:30,799 very kind of kindred spirits. That's right, they're weird. You know, 449 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,319 you and I were talking before we started recording, kind 450 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,759 of the third piece to the puzzle that may get 451 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:40,519 overlooked but is also an outsider, a weirdo and ultra 452 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,400 creative that contributed massively to the success of this movie 453 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:44,880 and others. 454 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, is Danny Elfman? Absolutely? Yeah. So we we've talked 455 00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:02,440 before when we did our Man episode about how Tim 456 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,319 Burton and Danny Elfman came together, and I talked about 457 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,880 the move there. Danny Elfman had composed the score to 458 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,279 only one movie before, and it was years before, and 459 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,759 it was this Wingo Boingo movie like I think his 460 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640 brother might have directed it, maybe that's right, called The 461 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,599 Forbidden Zone, and it's just so bizarre, like I looked 462 00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:24,160 at some of the pictures, just bizarre, beyond bizarre. And 463 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:27,559 of course it was a favorite of Paul Rubin's, right, yeah, 464 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:29,559 and so he was like, oh, this is great. Now. 465 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,039 They had originally approached the guy from Devo, that's right, 466 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:38,079 the head guy of Devo. Yeah, was it Mark Mothers Baw? 467 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,400 Is that right? That Mark Mother's Blaw. Yeah, And he 468 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,160 couldn't do it, but he ends up composing the theme 469 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:47,359 to the to the Playhoffs to Pee Wee's Playhoffs later on. 470 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,759 That's right, that's right. So they bring in Danny Elfman 471 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,319 and yeah, it's this beautiful magic of match made and 472 00:22:54,599 --> 00:23:00,559 great script, great director, great composer and all on their 473 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Virgeon run if you will at a major motion picture. 474 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,559 Speaker 4: You know you mentioned it before. I want to kind 475 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,359 of double down on what you said. Yeah, this script 476 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:12,240 for Peeb's Big Adventure is studied at like like script 477 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:13,640 writing classes. 478 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Really because do you know they followed the format, right, 479 00:23:16,039 --> 00:23:16,680 they followed. 480 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,559 Speaker 4: The formula exactly. So it's a ninety minute movie. The 481 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,039 script is ninety pages long. 482 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 483 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: Act one is over on page thirty. 484 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,319 Speaker 3: Yep, that's when the bicycle gets stolen. 485 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:31,599 Speaker 4: And knitting and knitting and knitting. 486 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy, what is this two late? 487 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 4: Chip looks like a pen exactly. I bought this pen 488 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:40,640 one hour before my. 489 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,519 Speaker 5: Bike was stolen. 490 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: Why what's the significance? I don't know. 491 00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,319 Speaker 4: Act two is over on page sixty, and then the 492 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:51,799 movie ends on page ninety resolution. 493 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the rest of the story. Right, No, this 494 00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:57,119 is this is perfect. You're gonna love this. Right. So, 495 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,480 this budget on this movie was five five to six 496 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,359 million dollars not much, not much. It's a low budget 497 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,119 even you know in the eighties, that's a low budget movie, right. Yes, 498 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,279 it grosses something like fifty million, so it's it's a 499 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,319 phenomenal success for such a low sleeper unexpected, Like, yes, 500 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,920 that's what they they were like, they had no anticipation 501 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,480 that anybody would like this movie, and it's this huge, 502 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,200 huge success. So that propels Peewee to have his own 503 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:29,200 TV show, which is a great thing. It propels Danny 504 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,400 Elfman to do another movie called Beetlejuice Justice Juice, and 505 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,359 Tim Burton is directing that movie. I think, I said 506 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,640 Danny Elfman first, those two guys together do Beetlejuice, and 507 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,599 that Tim Burton showing that he can pull off two 508 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,839 moved I just won, but pull off two successful movies. 509 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,039 Then leads to in nineteen eighty eight, him being tapped 510 00:24:50,079 --> 00:25:05,559 to do Batman. Batman Now. Batman gets released on June 511 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:10,839 twenty third, nineteen eighty nine, amongst a handful of other movies, 512 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,000 including Indiana, Jones and The Last Crusade, Dead Poet Society. 513 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,119 You Got More Fun, You got the list, gimme. 514 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: So it is my belief that the summer of nineteen 515 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:24,759 eighty nine is the greatest summer for movies in the eighties. Yes, 516 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,880 I'm going all time because so listen to this. Starting 517 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,440 in May, You've got Fright Night two, Roadhouse, Dead Poet Society, 518 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,920 Star Trek five. Now keep in mind Some of these 519 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,799 movies turn out good. 520 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:36,559 Speaker 3: Some of them didn't. 521 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: But every week you're like, oh, Man Star Trek five 522 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,319 is hitting the theaters, and after that Ghostbusters two is 523 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,680 coming out, right yeah, And then Batman and Honey I 524 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680 Shrunk the Kids and do the Right Thing and Karate 525 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,039 Kid three and Weekend at Bernie's and leave the Weapon 526 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,920 two and Licensed to Kill and when Harry met Sally 527 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,599 and Turner and Hooch, Parenthood, the Abyss Nightmare and Elm 528 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,319 Street Part five, Uncle Buck. Week after week after week 529 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720 you have an incredible movie in nineteen eighty. 530 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:08,039 Speaker 3: Nine, named actors, named directors, Big time stuff going on. 531 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:12,599 And then in July, just four weeks to the day 532 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,559 after Batman is released, this little five million dollar movie 533 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,599 called UHF gets released. 534 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: And it gets buried by Rigs and Murta and Batman 535 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,160 and Batman Batman, Tim Burton is burying UHF. 536 00:26:35,319 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: That's true. So five million dollars budget, it's opening weekend, 537 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,160 it does four something. It ultimately grosses a little bit 538 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,119 more like they get it gets to six, right, but 539 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359 not a success, not a success, not a success at all. 540 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,839 And it's only after people have kind of weeded through 541 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,480 all of these huge monumental movies that have come out 542 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,880 to really go, wait, this movie's actually good. It's like, 543 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,079 this is a definitive cult classic. It did so poorly 544 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,400 it went out of print, and yet even out of print, 545 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,640 people obsess over this movie. So weird Al, I don't 546 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,119 need to go to the whole history. And by the way, 547 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,279 go check out our weird episode so she can get 548 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,920 the full history, and I go into all kinds of 549 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,519 detail about parodies and the inspiration for weird Out to 550 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,160 do his parody songs. But to make the story short, 551 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,000 weird Out he gets an accordion. His mom buys him 552 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,799 an accordion from a door to door salesman when he's 553 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,119 a little kid. She's like, well, this will make him popular. 554 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,680 He learns how to play it. He goes on to 555 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,759 become a DJ at his college, where he gets the 556 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,519 where he gets his handle of weird Al Yankovic and 557 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,759 then he's playing a lot of weird stuff that he's 558 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,160 not really allowed to play and ultimately gets fired. But 559 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,480 in the process of all of this, he meets a 560 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,319 guy going you know, college to college who's got his 561 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,839 own strange show called Doctor Demento, and so he meets 562 00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:02,480 to Doctor Demento. He's like, hey, you know, I love 563 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,960 your stuff. They kind of form a little bit of 564 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,599 a bond. And then a really popular song at the time, 565 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,319 song that we've covered on our Patreon episode is called 566 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:13,240 my Sharona. 567 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,599 Speaker 4: That's right, That's right, and he comes up with. 568 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,039 Speaker 3: My Bologna, My Bologna, and spoiler alert for the movie 569 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,839 this is true. He records it inside of a bathroom 570 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,359 to get the reverb effect right. He sends his tape 571 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,839 to Doctor Demento. Doctor Demento plays it and it becomes 572 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:36,119 a huge success. He ultimately then goes on to follow 573 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,599 this up with I Love Rocky Road. Another one rides 574 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,559 the bus a lot of fantastic parody songs, and his 575 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,680 theme you know, he won't make a song. He won't 576 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,960 make a parody of a song if the original artist 577 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480 says no. But he says, it doesn't hurt to ask, right, 578 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:56,039 and Michael Jackson's beat it is at the top of 579 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,279 the charts, and weird Ow comes up with an idea 580 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:02,720 for a parody and it's like, there's no way. Michael Jackson, Well, 581 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,480 it doesn't hurt to ask, and Michael Jackson says, yes, yes, 582 00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:20,319 and that's when weird Al moves from good to great. 583 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,039 When Edit came out. 584 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,599 Speaker 4: I remember at the skating rink the people going bonkers 585 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,119 when they'd played Weird Out Eat It. 586 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:30,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 587 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: And then as he grows as a comedian, his fun 588 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640 you know, his songs are super clever, they're funny. Plus 589 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,000 he can sing, I mean, plus, you know, the music's 590 00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:39,519 good and stuff. 591 00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: The music is absolutely solid, yes, but he goes up 592 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,960 a notch with the music videos right. And so he 593 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:48,920 when he gets into this position of becoming famous for 594 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,880 his parody songs, he needs video. MTV came out in 595 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880 eighty one, It's all happening at the same time, and 596 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,160 so he needs videos for his stuff. And so who 597 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,759 does he get to do it. He gets his to 598 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,960 direct the videos, a guy named Jay Levy, and so 599 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,000 Jay Levy creates these perfect parodies of the I Love 600 00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:11,240 rock and Roll video and Michael Jackson Beat It video. 601 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,240 I mean, if you watch it, it's so well done, 602 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,359 Like it's literally like they I can't imagine how they 603 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,039 didn't go to the exact location, and maybe they did, 604 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:22,359 maybe they went exactly where it had gotten filmed, but 605 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,640 they produce it nearly frame for frame with comic elements throughout, 606 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,119 and it's brilliantly done. 607 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: I think they did with the Fat video. I think 608 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,400 they went to the exact same spot where they filmed Bad. 609 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: Sure, yes, you know, so Jay Levy is able to 610 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,119 do with Fat what Martin Scorsese did with Bad, And 611 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,880 that's that's genuinely impressive. Like I can't go out and 612 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,400 recreate a Martin Scorsese video. That's that's suppressive stuff, right, 613 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,880 And so they. 614 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: For those of you who are forgotten that Martin Scorsese 615 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,880 directed the Bad Video, go back to our very first episode. 616 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,599 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, so we don't know how long Jason 617 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:10,200 was frozen and fray like mid sneezes. Sorry about that. 618 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:13,759 We weren't watching the cameras anyway. So Jay Levy and 619 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,839 weird Al have got have gotten together. They've made great music, 620 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000 they've made great videos. They come out with Weird Al 621 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:25,759 in three D, which I had the tape I wore. 622 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,559 Speaker 4: The recovering Weird Al three D. 623 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: I know, right, and it's so successful. They're like, what 624 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:32,599 else can we do? And the idea comes up, well, 625 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,759 what if we do a movie? And we just you know, 626 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,680 we've got all these crazy ideas for these parodies. Let's 627 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,759 let's figure out how to make this into a movie. 628 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: So here's one of the interesting stories about this. Do 629 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,480 you know who Gene Kirkwood is. 630 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: Gene Kirkwood is the producer. He is a producer. Yeah, okay, 631 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,799 give me more. So he produced the movie Rocky. Oh 632 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:55,119 well that's something, right, Yeah, I'm speaking of spilled Sylvester Stallone. 633 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,759 Right about knock a Home Run? Yeah? 634 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,119 Speaker 4: Right, So, Jay Levy and weird Al have Richen in 635 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,279 the script. They're passing it around Hollywood. It ends up 636 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:07,000 in Gene Kirkwood's assistance hands. They read it, they think 637 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,559 it's really funny. Yeah, they give it to This is 638 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:12,440 the producer of Rocky. Hey, you're the producer of Rocky. 639 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,599 How about a Weird Al movie? 640 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,759 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know how that works, but sure, I 641 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,160 was gonna tell you this. So he made Rocky. 642 00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,119 Speaker 4: He also made the popa Greenwich Village. 643 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 644 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,759 Speaker 4: He also made Get Rich or Die Trying. 645 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: Remember the fifty cent movie? Okay. 646 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,599 Speaker 4: He also made a movie that we have talked about 647 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160 many times but have never seen, a Night in Heaven. 648 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:34,279 Speaker 3: Isn't this the Brian Adams. Bryan Adams made the song 649 00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,799 Heaven for this movie. Yes, and nobody knows of this movie. 650 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,279 That's right. It's starring the guy from the Blue Lagoon. Right. 651 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:43,759 Speaker 4: Then it's about mail strippers, right, that's right. 652 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,759 Speaker 3: I don't know how we haven't seen that one. 653 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, right, So he produced all those movies. 654 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 655 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: He gets his hands on it and he's like, yeah, 656 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:53,160 let's do this, you know. 657 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean serious, Well he had been he 658 00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:58,880 had been watching the videos, and he had already had 659 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880 an interest in like, Wiga, we can make this guy 660 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,720 into a movie star. 661 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,799 Speaker 4: So serious producer says, let's make this guy movie star. 662 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,319 Speaker 4: I've also got another name for you, okay, Gray Fredericson. 664 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this guy is. Yeah, we've talked about 665 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880 him a few times before. I think maybe just me 666 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,440 and you. But he was a guy who he was 667 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,039 involved in The Godfather, The Godfather too, The Apocalypse, now 668 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,400 The Outsiders, every Francis Ford Coppola movie that he did 669 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,440 in the first ten years of his career. Gray Fredrickson 670 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,079 is a producer on those movies. Now, if you go 671 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,039 back to our catalog, we have covered The Outsiders versus Rumblefish, 672 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,799 both of them Francis Ford Coppola movies, both of them 673 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,319 produced by Gray Fredrickson, and they were both filmed in Tulsa. 674 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:45,960 That's right. 675 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,079 Speaker 4: So before we move on to Tulsa, if I say 676 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:53,720 that UHF was produced by the same people who produced Rocky, 677 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:57,839 The Godfather and Apocalypse, now I'm telling the truth. 678 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Yeah exactly. 679 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: So one of the things that they said to where 680 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,720 to Al and Jay Levy say, hey, we want to 681 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,200 make this movie with you, but you got to make 682 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,559 it for five million dollars or less. 683 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: Can you pull that off? 684 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,119 Speaker 4: So all of a sudden they're like, well, we got 685 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,119 to we gotta do this on the cheap. Yeah, so 686 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,559 where can we film this. 687 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: Movie on the cheap? La is not cheap? You know 688 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,880 what is cheap? Oklahoma? Also Oklahoma? 689 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Grey Friderson, who based out of Oklahoma City. 690 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: Oh, really, yeah, I think you would tell you. Oh yeah, 691 00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:27,880 that's right, that's right. I remember that. Yeah. 692 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,039 Speaker 4: So he says, hey, guys, you know we did The 693 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,480 Outsiders and Rumblefish and Tulsa. 694 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: People were great. Everybody's excited. Yeah. 695 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, people happy to have you there. You have everything 696 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:38,800 you need to shoot a movie there. Yeah, what do 697 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,719 you think so that they're like, eh, let's go cheap production. 698 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,119 Uhf in Tulsa. 699 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: There you go, by the way, go check out that 700 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,519 location's filming locations video the Jason and I shot a 701 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:53,280 few weeks ago Super Fun and Specialist Cities spat Spat 702 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,719 see this. We bought it at Spatuliss City for real. 703 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,519 That's true. 704 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: The last one, the Golden Spatchela. 705 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: If you will, it was the last one, nothing says, 706 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,800 I love you. 707 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,039 Speaker 2: You know. 708 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 4: We did buy that at the same grocery store that 709 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920 they shot special City at. Yeah, that place is down 710 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:16,199 kind of a rougher party town. 711 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 712 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 4: They had a cop making sure nobody was shoplifting, and 713 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,239 we could have pulled down his pants and pushed him 714 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,400 over and stolen everything in the store. 715 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,199 Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you're watching, sir, but literally, I was like, 716 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,199 I don't know that he would be any help at all. 717 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:32,159 Anybody did anything in that store. 718 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,679 Speaker 4: We could have tied his shoelaces together and still in 719 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,679 anything we wanted. 720 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, okay, let's move on to casting. 721 00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 4: Let's flip back to Pee's Big Adventure. 722 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: Sounds good. 723 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: I say, we hang him, then we kill him. 724 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: I say we stop him. 725 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 4: All right, so we have Paul Rubens is pee wee Herman. 726 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to get mixed up with a guy 727 00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:03,800 like me. 728 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: I'm a loner. Dottie Rebel talked about him. 729 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,119 Speaker 4: Yes, let's talk about the little pint sized smoke show 730 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:14,320 known as e G or Elizabeth Daily. 731 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Daily, she plays Dottie. I'm not Dottie. 732 00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go. 733 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: Don't you want to see the rest of the movie. 734 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:22,639 Speaker 1: I don't have to see it. 735 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:24,679 Speaker 4: Dotty I lived. 736 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: Now. We've talked about her before, because she was she 737 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,559 was the singer. What was the movie? She was the 738 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,639 singer in the band doing the show. Was it The 739 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Last Dragon? It was Better Off Dead? Better Off Dead? 740 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,320 That was it. 741 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, So she had been in the movie Valley Girl, 742 00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:43,480 and of course she is also in the movie Better 743 00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,440 Off deav She also goes on to do like some 744 00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:47,760 incredible voice work. 745 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 3: She takes over the job as Tommy on rug Rats 746 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,079 Tommy Pickles. Yeah, Kavanaugh was the name of the actress 747 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,400 who had done it originally, and she was also Dexter 748 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920 on Dexter's Laboratory. I don't know how I came across 749 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,880 just a few weeks ago, but it was this very 750 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,800 sad thing where she died very young. I think she 751 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,039 died at fifty five or something. But she had voiced 752 00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,159 all of these incredible characters. But she said when she 753 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,000 she decided she was going to take a break and 754 00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:14,760 focus on her family, and she said, Elizabeth Dailey is 755 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,280 the perfect person to voice Tommy Pickles, and she is. Yeah. Absolutely. 756 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,840 Then we also have Mark. 757 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:27,519 Speaker 4: Holton as frances Pee Wee. 758 00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:29,639 Speaker 5: You make me, don't you make me? 759 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 3: Because I don't make monkeys. 760 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: I just trained them. 761 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,079 Speaker 3: I saw him, and I immediately went to the stubbled 762 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,320 fat basketball player on teen Wolf Wolf like, he looks 763 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,480 like he's thirty seven years old out there at court 764 00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:46,199 smoking a cigarette. That's right. 765 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,199 Speaker 4: Now, we're gonna cover teen Wolf here in just a 766 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:48,719 few weeks. 767 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do teen Wolf versus Monster Squad, which 768 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,559 has another connection coming up here in the casting right, 769 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:57,039 talk about that here and just think it. Yeah. 770 00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,639 Speaker 4: Okay, now, this was Peey's big adventure, was his first movie. 771 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,599 They got him right out of acting school, okay, hired 772 00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:05,920 him right away. But do you know who they had 773 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880 in mind for the Francis part? 774 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:08,599 Speaker 3: Nope? 775 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Corey Feldman was who they asked, he auditioned, he 776 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,519 got the parts, and then passed on it to do 777 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,480 the Goonies. 778 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,519 Speaker 3: Well that was a good that was a good choice. Yeah. Yeah, 779 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,800 I could totally see him as the I mean, the 780 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,480 difference in those two people is amazing though right, like 781 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,920 completely different. Corey Feldman would have been a much more 782 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,920 believable Braddy kid who wanted the bicycle. That would have 783 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,880 been a great cast. Yeah, yeah, okay, keep going, all right. 784 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 4: Then you have Diane Salinger. She plays Simone dream. 785 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all alone. 786 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,159 Speaker 4: I'm rolling a big donut and the snake wearing a. 787 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: Best Simone the waitress. Let's talk about your big bet, 788 00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:59,360 Simone and her dreams. Yeah, what are your dreams? He will, 789 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:00,480 I always have this dream. 790 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,599 Speaker 4: He's a snake wearing a vest and not that kind 791 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,159 of dream that part, Craig. I watched that movie with 792 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,480 Ava just the other day and he's talking about how 793 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:11,840 you know. She's saying it's my dream to go to Paris, 794 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,000 and he's like, well you should go. She's like yeah, 795 00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,159 But he's like, everybody I talked to has a butt. 796 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,880 Let's talk about jer big butt. And Ava thought. 797 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,119 Speaker 3: That was so funny. That's awesome, all right. 798 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 4: Then you have jud Omen who plays Mickey, the felon 799 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000 that he picks up on the side of the road. 800 00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 3: Great straight man. 801 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 4: When he pulls over it picks on pee wee. He's 802 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,360 wearing broken handcuffs. It's clear that he's a felon. You're right, 803 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920 he is a great straight man. And Paul Rubins just 804 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,280 goes crazy while in drag playing his wife for the top. 805 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,639 Speaker 3: It's brilliant. He's a brilliant straight man for that part. 806 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480 And he's a brilliant straight man in his delivery of 807 00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:48,360 the line of the crime he committed. You know those 808 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,079 tags on the back of the mattress do not remove. 809 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,840 I get really angry sometimes it's brilliant, brilliant. Yeah, super funny. Okay. 810 00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: You just have kind of a cast of characters that 811 00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,320 kind of come in and out of his life throughout 812 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,440 the movie. No real major players, although I do want 813 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,679 to point out you have Cassandra Peterson, yes, otherwise known 814 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,079 as Elvira, Mistress of. 815 00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: The dark YEP, who plays the biker chick. Give him 816 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,079 to me, I say, you're give him to me first? Yeah, 817 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:19,880 I say, you let him go. That's Cassandra Peterson. Yeah. 818 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,559 Speaker 4: You also have John Parragon, who plays one of the 819 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,039 actors on the lot we talked about that. 820 00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to point out you have Jason Hervey. Jason 821 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,199 Hervey is the actor who has gifted the bicycle for 822 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,119 the movie that is being shot now. Jason, this is 823 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:40,119 nineteen eighty five, shooting in eighty four, right, Yeah. And 824 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,440 another movie that came out in eighty five that you 825 00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,679 might have heard of. It's called Back to the Future 826 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,079 where he plays a young coonskin capped uncle to Marty 827 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:55,079 McFly what's a rerun? And then and then just two 828 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,079 three years later we get The Wonder Years where he 829 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,519 is Kevin's older brother. Yep. Yeah. 830 00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:03,039 Speaker 4: He also has a part in The Monster Squad, which 831 00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:04,639 we're going to talk about here in just a few weeks. 832 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: Ah. Perfect, okay, perfect. 833 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,679 Speaker 4: One of the people that I wanted to point out 834 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,880 to you as well. In that shot with Kevin who's 835 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,159 arguing with the director, She's like this kids drive me 836 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:17,400 crazy and I can't take you anymore. 837 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: That's Lynn Stewart. Okay. 838 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 4: She is in The Groundlings. Oh okay, And she plays 839 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,519 Miss Evon. 840 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 3: Oh miss yes, okay, oh yes. The fantastic. I love it. 841 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,679 Speaker 4: A lot of his friends making appearances. 842 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 3: By the way, spoiler alert for the The Pee Wee Show, 843 00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,400 he gets one wish from the genie. He wants to. 844 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,639 Speaker 4: Fly and the look as boy in the whole World. 845 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: But Miss Yvonne wants Captain Carl, Captain Carl to like her, 846 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,079 to like like like her. Yeah, and Pee Wee decides 847 00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,760 to give his wish to Miss s Evon. He wishes 848 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000 for that to come true, and because he chose to 849 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,599 do the right thing, he gets his wish too, which 850 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,119 is to fly the luckiest boy in the world. Very 851 00:41:59,119 --> 00:41:59,920 biblical right. 852 00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 4: A couple other people I want to point out to 853 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,920 you that I think are just freaking off the chain funny. 854 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: In this You have James Brolin, brilliant, who plays p W. 855 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:16,679 P W Herman W Herman. Have you got any messages 856 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,119 for Room one O four? Name's Herman, p W Herman? 857 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,599 Speaker 5: No, nothing right now, mister Herman. 858 00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,079 Speaker 3: And he's the guy in charge of the X one Yes. 859 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,519 And then of course the movie Dottie. 860 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: Morgan Fairchild in her hottest of hottest. 861 00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, I'm married to Morgan. 862 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,639 Speaker 4: You also have Milton Burrell make a cameo. 863 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 3: He does. 864 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 4: He's walking through which that's how Pee gets on the lot. 865 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. In the in his entourage, he's telling a joke 866 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,519 and Pee was like, that's so funny, and he sneaks 867 00:42:57,519 --> 00:42:59,559 onto the lot. Humber. The last time we talked about 868 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:03,440 Milton Burr, I do because he is Uncle Milty and 869 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,840 he's the real uncle to Marshall Burrell, who's right, discovered 870 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,639 Van Halen and then after losing Van Halen got a 871 00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,039 little band called Rat called Rat. That's right. 872 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:18,199 Speaker 4: Speaking of Rat, you have a cameo of Twisted Sister. 873 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,559 Speaker 3: I was. I had no idea that was coming. 874 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,119 Speaker 4: I was. 875 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:26,079 Speaker 3: My mind was blown. I was like, what, oh fantastic. 876 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,599 Speaker 4: So Twisted Sister is shooting a music video on the 877 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,480 lot and here comes Pee Wee riding his bike right 878 00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:33,199 through the middle of it. 879 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,039 Speaker 3: That's brilliant. Okay, So that does it for casting for 880 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,519 Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Come back join us next week. 881 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,719 We will do part two. We will dive in on 882 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,679 casting on UHF. We will talk about soundtracks, we will 883 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,280 talk about bits, we'll talk about tidbits, all kinds of 884 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,280 fun stuff. Be sure and join us for that, and 885 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,400 then of course, we'll give you our final judgment on 886 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,639 which of these two movies It's two weird movies are 887 00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:02,000 the best. We will see you guys then, thank you 888 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,159 so much for joining us. What's your name? I can't 889 00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:14,480 remember where you're from. I can't remember did you remember anything? 890 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,159 I remember the album