Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome
Speaker 1: to William Ramsey Investigates on Today show. I have a
Speaker 1: very special guest, returning guest. This will be our seventh show.
Speaker 1: His name is doctor Eric Carlstro Can you get the
Speaker 1: mute button?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're trying to figure out the audio. But there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reverb, so I think that
Speaker 1: we are echo. So I'll just be hitting the mute
Speaker 1: button while he's talking, and hopefully he'll hit the meat
Speaker 1: button while I'm talking. But our other shows we've done,
Speaker 1: which I will enumerate right here, are pretty interesting. I'll
Speaker 1: see if I can put some up, but I think
Speaker 1: our earliest show was twenty twenty one. We talked about
Speaker 1: psychotronics and gangs talking. We've also talked about targeted individuals.
Speaker 1: We've done the Macy conferences, We've done mass shootings in
Speaker 1: the Monarch Project Program to Kill by David McGowan. Mcgow an,
Speaker 1: people can't seem to spit that name out these days.
Speaker 1: We also did Dissent into Hell cimk Ulter Doctor Scientists
Speaker 1: by some politicians, and then one of my most listened
Speaker 1: to shows is reinterpretation of post World War two American
Speaker 1: history in light of MK black Ops, which is very
Speaker 1: true and well worth your time to listen. But he
Speaker 1: has just if you're watching this on rumble x or Rockin,
Speaker 1: you will see his new article which is the title
Speaker 1: of this show, which is timeline to B System mind controlled, highmind,
Speaker 1: psycho civilized cyborg slave society, and we are going to
Speaker 1: talk about that today. And so welcome back to the show,
Speaker 1: Doctor Eric carlstro.
Speaker 2: Thank you, William. It's great to be back and talking
Speaker 2: to you. Seems like we really have zero it in
Speaker 2: on in our last shows and on this show into
Speaker 2: a particular kind of groove here, which I think is
Speaker 2: extraordinarily important. Obviously, I retired from a thirty year career
Speaker 2: as a geography professor physical geography and the actual soils
Speaker 2: and landforms and climate change are in my field. In
Speaker 2: my retirement since twenty eleven, I have just kind of
Speaker 2: turned myself loose on researching topics that I think are
Speaker 2: important to everybody and which and then I have five
Speaker 2: websites that I've used to kind of to compile this information,
Speaker 2: and they're basically free digital libraries like Gangstockingmindcontrol, cults dot com,
Speaker 2: which you have on the screen. There also nine to
Speaker 2: one one nWo dot com. Also Natural climate Change dot org,
Speaker 2: which plays to my actual experience as a as a
Speaker 2: researcher in my career, and then also San Luis valleywaterwatch
Speaker 2: dot com and my music website here at Carlstrom dot com.
Speaker 2: So I haven't gotten bored. I have to stopped, you know,
Speaker 2: exploring the world. This particular groove of topics that you
Speaker 2: and I have been able to talk about really leads
Speaker 2: me to this post, which I've put together just in
Speaker 2: the last week or two. Basically, it's summarizing some of
Speaker 2: the main most important points from my gang Stocking Mind
Speaker 2: Control Cults dot com website, which now has two thousand,
Speaker 2: five hundred posts on it, by the way, many of
Speaker 2: which I've written myself, and and my other one nine
Speaker 2: to one one nWo dot com which has got over
Speaker 2: a thousand posts. So these are huge websites with lots
Speaker 2: of informations free to the public. I haven't needed to
Speaker 2: charge to this point, so I just keep working away
Speaker 2: doing what I guess I think retired professors should do.
Speaker 2: Now this particular article, I what I do is I
Speaker 2: string together mostly quotes from other other researchers, and I
Speaker 2: had written an article in twenty twelve. It took me
Speaker 2: a whole year because the subject is so grim and dark,
Speaker 2: called Mind Control History and Applications, in which I read
Speaker 2: about fifty books on the subject the best I could
Speaker 2: find and basically get a literature review, which is the
Speaker 2: first step of any academic investigation. And I wrote about
Speaker 2: I guess one hundred page article which is on which
Speaker 2: is under New World Religion up in the upper left.
Speaker 2: Thank you you've got You've got my subheadings there, and yeah,
Speaker 2: Part fifteen is I'm now titling this very same article.
Speaker 2: I've got fourteen previous parts, and then this is so
Speaker 2: important that I've made this the fifteenth part because what
Speaker 2: I'm coming to after all this research is that this
Speaker 2: is kind of a subtext which runs through many, many,
Speaker 2: many different fields and mini operations. And it's almost there,
Speaker 2: you go, No, that's the one before. That's fourteen, and
Speaker 2: then she should be right above that. I guess, Yeah,
Speaker 2: timeline to the Beast System. That's this article which I've
Speaker 2: just loaded up the last couple of days. And what
Speaker 2: spurred me back to this subject was I bought this
Speaker 2: book by Walter bo Art, Operation Mind Control Researchers Edition.
Speaker 2: He put about twenty about five hundred copies of this
Speaker 2: out in nineteen ninety four. He could not find a
Speaker 2: publisher obviously, got about eight eight hundred and eighteen pages,
Speaker 2: lots of diagrams and references, and it's just the best
Speaker 2: thing I've found telling us how we got to where
Speaker 2: we are today with these black, top secret programs having
Speaker 2: to do with MK Ultra and all these post World
Speaker 2: War to mind control operations of the CIA and the
Speaker 2: military in particular. You know, Operation Chatter in nineteen forty
Speaker 2: seven was a Navy operation, and then it was Bluebird
Speaker 2: CIA in nineteen fifty and then the Artist Choke in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one, and then MK Ultra comes along in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty three. And this was a gigantic Manhattan project
Speaker 2: of the mind that the military and the CIA.
Speaker 1: Was doing.
Speaker 2: And top secret and they were spending over billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year doing this. Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm just using quotes, and this is coming from
Speaker 2: doctor Colin Ross who wrote a book Blue Bird about
Speaker 2: Operation Bluebird. He's got the same book in the basically
Speaker 2: is out as CIA doctors. But yeah, virtually every leading
Speaker 2: psychiatrist in North America between the nineties forties and nineteen
Speaker 2: seventies was involved in some aspect of the CIA's mind
Speaker 2: control research. Think about that. For instance, doctor Ewan Cameron,
Speaker 2: Scottish born, friend of John Rawlings Reese, the brigadier general
Speaker 2: who after World War One he's head of the British
Speaker 2: Army Psychological Warfare Department. He starts to Tavis dot Clinic
Speaker 2: and then he he's a good friend of youw And Cameron,
Speaker 2: who is one of the most notorious of the MKA
Speaker 2: CIA m k L two doctors who did mk Ultra
Speaker 2: Project sixty eight, which has to do with so much
Speaker 2: torture and trauma to the brain of his unwitting patients
Speaker 2: who come in there trusting and he puts them to
Speaker 2: a coma, you know, under a drug induced coma for
Speaker 2: three weeks, four weeks, five weeks. He you know, uses
Speaker 2: electric vast amounts of electro convulsive therapy to their brain. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's doctor Ewan Cameron. And the reason I brought him
Speaker 2: up it just has to do with that quote. This man,
Speaker 2: Scottish born was head of the World Psychiatric Association the
Speaker 2: Canadian Psychiatric Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and he was
Speaker 2: going for the Nobel Prize. But what he was doing
Speaker 2: in quote the sleep Room, which was actually a torture
Speaker 2: chamber at the Ravens Krag Building of McGill University, the
Speaker 2: Allen Memorial Institute for Neuroscience or whatever it is called.
Speaker 2: He was. He has a two step project process that
Speaker 2: he came up with out of mk Ultra Subproject sixty eight,
Speaker 2: which was to deep pattern the mind of his poor
Speaker 2: victim patients. They just came in for something else because
Speaker 2: he had a good reputation, and he wound up erasing
Speaker 2: their minds. It's called deepatterning.
Speaker 1: And then we know this just to interrupt, but they
Speaker 1: we know this because a lot of the patients, dude.
Speaker 1: And there's other inquest and there's a really good book
Speaker 1: called father, Son and Cia, which is really easy to remember.
Speaker 1: His name is Harvey Weinstein, not that Harvey Weinstein. But
Speaker 1: I've done a book, I've done an episode about that.
Speaker 1: I'll try to republish that or restream that. But we
Speaker 1: have all the facts about this guy. He literally used Karrari,
Speaker 1: which is like a paralyzing agent from like South America
Speaker 1: or on his victims there really were victims. Crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was a friend of William Sergeant, who wrote who
Speaker 2: was another British psycho dog crazy man who wanted to
Speaker 2: make men better killers, you know, And how do you
Speaker 2: make men better killers, you know for the you know,
Speaker 2: for the British Empire. Well, you make a new man.
Speaker 2: You erase the old identity and you put a new one.
Speaker 2: So the first step is is de patterning. There you go,
Speaker 2: there's a William Sergeant and another friend of these other
Speaker 2: two guys, John Rollings Reese and you and Cameron. So
Speaker 2: there's deep and then they're psychic driving. And the second
Speaker 2: part of the process that Cameron used, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is just totally brutal.
Speaker 1: He had a.
Speaker 2: Lab assistant whose actual field was engineering on medicine, and
Speaker 2: the lab assistant rigged up a kind of a football
Speaker 2: helmet arrangement with a tape recorder inside for the patients
Speaker 2: and so they would get looped very very very negative messages.
Speaker 2: Your mother hates you, you're no good. You know, you're
Speaker 2: a fat, you're you know, to you know, to kind
Speaker 2: of re well, to traumatize the person so that they're
Speaker 2: no good and then they put in the new identity
Speaker 2: with the you know, the pro reprogrammed the person. So
Speaker 2: what I have we're right on target actually in terms
Speaker 2: of this this topic. Okay, now, this particular subproject about
Speaker 2: one to one hundred and fifty subprojects in MK Ultra
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty three to well, let's still going so I'll
Speaker 2: still still top secret. But yeah, this is one of
Speaker 2: the main things to see I had been doing is
Speaker 2: take over the world, you know, with mind control, and
Speaker 2: that's what the B system is. Okay, this is going
Speaker 2: on starting nineteen fifty seven, sub project sixty eight, and
Speaker 2: then it goes to the early sixties. At the same time,
Speaker 2: basically there's another subproject, Subproject one nineteen by doctor Saal
Speaker 2: b Cells of Texas Christian University. And I guess I'll
Speaker 2: guess I'll have to refer to my notes here. It's
Speaker 2: actually in the document there salb Cells. This goes nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty nine to nineteen sixty five. So there at the
Speaker 2: same time. Now, if you put these two projects together,
Speaker 2: and this one has to do with the remote activation
Speaker 2: of the human test subject electronically, if you put these
Speaker 2: two together, you come up with basically what we have
Speaker 2: been calling the organized stalking electronic harassment program. It's a
Speaker 2: misnomer as usual, but you know, they use words to
Speaker 2: cover and disguise what they're actually doing. So a word
Speaker 2: like gang stocking, then is a word that is kind
Speaker 2: of a self harm term that they would have come
Speaker 2: up with to describe this program, which is actually doing
Speaker 2: what these trying to do, what you and Cameron was
Speaker 2: doing in the sleep room, which is to reprogram the
Speaker 2: mind to trauma and repetitive messages. And of course the
Speaker 2: people who've been suffering from this have been suffering this
Speaker 2: from this. They have used children, they have used citizens
Speaker 2: involuntary test subjects, going right back to those very days
Speaker 2: of nineteen fifty seven, nineteen fifty nine. And in this
Speaker 2: article here in the Timeline to the Beast, I'm quoting
Speaker 2: what I would call targeted individuals. There's other other names
Speaker 2: for us, because I'm one.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: As you get on the wrong side of the cryptocracy,
Speaker 2: the rule by secrecy, they go after you and they
Speaker 2: try to neutralize you, they try to kill you. So
Speaker 2: for the last fourteen years, it's my battle has been
Speaker 2: first of all, to survive the system, and I've as
Speaker 2: a professor I'm kind of a little luckier than most
Speaker 2: because i can read and I can write, and so
Speaker 2: I've read many many books about this now, and the
Speaker 2: more education you have about it, I think, the more
Speaker 2: chance that you're going to be able to survive this
Speaker 2: heinous they're trying to create a literal health on Earth
Speaker 2: for people with these technologies elect electromagnetic frequencies. Let me
Speaker 2: go down to nineteen fifty nine here and we'll take
Speaker 2: a look at Solby cells. Uh, principal investigator. Okay, there's
Speaker 2: there's I don't know if you could. Can you see
Speaker 2: my screen? Uh, well, you'd have to.
Speaker 1: You have to add it to the stream yard. So
Speaker 1: you go down to add you got to present share screen.
Speaker 1: If you want to share your screen.
Speaker 2: Well, let me see if I can do that. It
Speaker 2: might be worth while. Okay, so, uh.
Speaker 1: Just tell me where to go to on this art.
Speaker 2: I've got it here. Share screen and then share screen.
Speaker 1: It'll come. It'll show up in the box underneath us.
Speaker 2: And then says alow, yes, is that now sharing.
Speaker 1: It won't You'll see the box underneath the stream yard
Speaker 1: stream what you share Once you share anything.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: I see?
Speaker 2: Okay, share screen, Share screen allowed streaming yard to see
Speaker 2: your screen. Allow. Oh, it says the browser can access
Speaker 2: your screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably have the wrong browser. Okay, I can
Speaker 1: access it for you. What do you want me to
Speaker 1: pull up?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, great, Yeah, I think if you just scroll down.
Speaker 1: In this nineteen fifty nine right here, that's where you
Speaker 1: want to be, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, look at nineteen fifty nine to nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five. Very good, that's yeah, that's it. Okay. This
Speaker 2: CIA's MK Ultra Subproject one nineteen sol b cells Principal
Speaker 2: investigator the study, and this is the professor with access.
Speaker 2: He had worked with the Air Force and Data Management
Speaker 2: as a computer scientist, uh for twelve years going into this.
Speaker 2: So it's not like this guy came off the street.
Speaker 2: We can talk about his background too, but yeah. He
Speaker 2: His project was called Interpretive Survey of work being done
Speaker 2: in psychophysiological research and instrumentation. The five goals of the
Speaker 2: project were, and I'll just read them off, bioelectric sensors. Well,
Speaker 2: that's a chip Mike Elon is putting in our heads. Now,
Speaker 2: that's an implant. Bioelectric sensors are biosensors, sources of significant
Speaker 2: electrical potential and methods to pick up. Okay. So they
Speaker 2: had developed this back in the fifties, the brain to
Speaker 2: computer interface with MIT professors, with this guy and many
Speaker 2: many others. It's very much a joint effort some of
Speaker 2: the brightest people in America, elas and the world. Second
Speaker 2: one B recording. Okay, So they want to amplify these
Speaker 2: signals that are measuring the waves in your brain, notably
Speaker 2: at that time, most notably EEG or electro encephalogram wavy
Speaker 2: pattern that our brains produce, which doctor Norbert Wiener at MIT,
Speaker 2: who wrote the book on Cybernetics, he was able to
Speaker 2: interpret these signals through what's called spectral analysis or four
Speaker 2: REA analysis. So they're going to amplify the signal, they're
Speaker 2: going to record it. They're going to send you it
Speaker 2: to a computer here and b electronic tape and other
Speaker 2: multi channel recording. Okase. Analysis uses the auto correlator. Now
Speaker 2: this is a computer that again doctor Norbert Wiener, this
Speaker 2: brilliant MIT maths professor who wrote the book on Cybernetics
Speaker 2: Man machine integrations, he invented this in nineteen fifty five
Speaker 2: and again he did spectrum analysis. Spectrum analyzers to interpret
Speaker 2: the EEG pattern brain patterns along in nineteen fifty five
Speaker 2: along twelve different channels between the brain, different parts of
Speaker 2: the brain and the computer and coordinate with automatic data
Speaker 2: processing equipment. Okay, so they were really advanced in the fifties,
Speaker 2: really really advanced, you know, more advanced. I think people
Speaker 2: can imagine a destandardization of data for correlation with biochemical, physiological,
Speaker 2: and behavioral indicies. Okay, they want to know all about
Speaker 2: you and measure it and record it and put it
Speaker 2: into a computer storage forever. And then of course then
Speaker 2: you can you get the whole thing where you have
Speaker 2: a library of different wavelengths, different signals giving off the
Speaker 2: given from the body when it's feeling this or when
Speaker 2: it's feeling that, when it's being tortured. You can measure
Speaker 2: those that patterns, those patterns, and then you can send
Speaker 2: that to somebody else. And that's exactly what they're doing
Speaker 2: with the targeted individuals. They're taking the patterns of given
Speaker 2: off by the brain or different parts of the brain
Speaker 2: and then simply sending it to somebody else. Then they're
Speaker 2: feeling that, an't you no physical contact, They're not actually
Speaker 2: being tortured in the direct sense, but they are feeling
Speaker 2: the sensations as if they were tortured. This is what
Speaker 2: it is to be a targeted individual, to be remotely tortured.
Speaker 2: And so the last part of my title is is
Speaker 2: tis as a guinea pig. So they've been using non
Speaker 2: consensual civilians to test these systems since the fifties, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to that, will prove that in a minute.
Speaker 2: And then finally the last one is the most telling
Speaker 2: e Techniques of activation of the human organism, Techniques of
Speaker 2: activism of the human organism by remote electronic means. Okay,
Speaker 2: now picture a little marionette, you know, with the arms
Speaker 2: and the legs going up and down. This is where
Speaker 2: we are, and this is where we have been for
Speaker 2: a long time. These technologies have been developed, the technologies
Speaker 2: to completely control people's moods, there, motions, their thoughts, and
Speaker 2: their bodily movements. Now this is you know, for anybody
Speaker 2: who believes that, you know, life is a God given
Speaker 2: gift and that we have free will. But what they've
Speaker 2: done is perhaps the greatest crime against humanity and history.
Speaker 2: And of course, now with Elon Musk, for instance, this
Speaker 2: guy with autism who can control SpaceX with forty to
Speaker 2: fifty thousand low Earth orbit satellites, because satellites are part
Speaker 2: of this as they're sending and receiving the signals with
Speaker 2: the satellite, and then supercomputers are hooked up and AI.
Speaker 2: He's got an AI outfit. He was co founded Open Ai.
Speaker 2: Now he's got one x AI. And then of course
Speaker 2: he's got his neural aid chip that he wants to
Speaker 2: put people's brains, and he's got a number of other companies.
Speaker 2: This guy is one guy with that system could control
Speaker 2: everybody in the world. Because this is the beast system,
Speaker 2: I believe. And and yet our president, you know, the
Speaker 2: buddies with Elon Musk, right, Elon Musk is his right
Speaker 2: hand man. They're together all the time. He just follows
Speaker 2: around Trump all the time. Yeah, well, Elon Musk and
Speaker 2: those two probably the most dangerous people in the world
Speaker 2: right now if you ask me, because they have this
Speaker 2: technology and they're not talking about it. And of course
Speaker 2: one of the first things that Trump did was he
Speaker 2: he said, Okay, we're gonna have a half a trillion
Speaker 2: dollars for starters, and we're going to give it to
Speaker 2: our our buddies over here. Larry Ellison and and Sam Altman,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna they're gonna have the new Stargate. There's
Speaker 2: an old stargate too, which is worth talking about, but
Speaker 2: they have a way of recycling these names to keep
Speaker 2: everybody confused. And this new Stargate is going to be
Speaker 2: part of this process. So what they're looking at, I
Speaker 2: think is enslaving humanity, and not only in slaving, but
Speaker 2: redesigning re like like like Cameron's experiments, We're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna deep pattern the old and we're going to create
Speaker 2: the new. We're now we're going to have a by
Speaker 2: ruled bot slave. So this, uh, this is you know,
Speaker 2: we have to talk seriously about how do we how
Speaker 2: do we survive and thrive in an environment which is
Speaker 2: so completely with with individuals in power who have such
Speaker 2: awesome technology to to enslave us.
Speaker 1: And I think the enslavement is so good. We don't
Speaker 1: think we're slaves. Actually good. I think like if they
Speaker 1: take half your money or whatever through taxes and steal
Speaker 1: it all, you're a slave. Like you're stupid to think
Speaker 1: that you're free in America, like the facts and Trump
Speaker 1: is surrounded by technocrists just everywhere even it is inauguration,
Speaker 1: yet all the tech heads sitting right beyond, not like
Speaker 1: industrialists or anything. It was all tech luminaries, including Musk
Speaker 1: and all the people from Apple, Google, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are the most dangerous people in the
Speaker 2: world by far if you ask me, and scary because
Speaker 2: they have a vision. They have a vision, and you
Speaker 2: know that vision, as we know, is to reduce the
Speaker 2: human population and enslave the rest, you know, to so
Speaker 2: that they can become gods. Right, it is like the
Speaker 2: Old Testament, you shall not surely die, you shall be
Speaker 2: as gods. Well, these are the guys that are going
Speaker 2: for that because they don't want to die, because they
Speaker 2: know they're going to hell. In my opinion, you know,
Speaker 2: and I know I have to dance around certain topics,
Speaker 2: but they have a belief system. This group of people
Speaker 2: are the same belief system.
Speaker 1: It's the mechanistics view of man that were just robots
Speaker 1: and Darwinnianism and all that stuff. Like Elon Musk crispered
Speaker 1: his own child, this child that we had with this
Speaker 1: floozy or whatever they like, literally crispered him. Like we
Speaker 1: don't know the details of it, but this is like
Speaker 1: tampering words. And I don't know how many kids he's got.
Speaker 1: He's like polyambals or whatever. But this is a different
Speaker 1: view of things. This is not a traditional man woman
Speaker 1: marriage type person. So I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about that guy.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh yes, oh yes, we could go into that.
Speaker 2: His mother's a witch. Is his grandfather was a Canadian
Speaker 2: who was very much behind the first kind of group
Speaker 2: that wanted this technocracy to happen. So he was groomed
Speaker 2: in this very dark These are Satanists. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: There's Satanists, and they now believe in the human control
Speaker 2: of human evolution. And this is what Dennis Bushnell, member
Speaker 2: the same tribe who's head of NASA Science principal science investigator.
Speaker 2: He wrote in the two thousand and one NASA War document.
Speaker 2: You know we're in charge of evolution. Now we have
Speaker 2: human directed human evolution. And you know, I'm happy with
Speaker 2: God's system. I personally, I think, you know, God is great.
Speaker 1: Look what he gave us.
Speaker 2: You know, I do as an earth scientist, I do
Speaker 2: believe four and a half billion years is you know,
Speaker 2: the approximate age of the Earth. So I don't go
Speaker 2: with his six thousand year thing or the six days things,
Speaker 2: maybe as a metaphor, but you know, these guys want
Speaker 2: to redo everything. In fact, they have a word abri
Speaker 2: word called takun olam which means reinvention of the world,
Speaker 2: and that's what they're doing. They're reinventing the world, and
Speaker 2: that's what they're all about, and that's what they've been
Speaker 2: all about. So if you look deeply into the subject,
Speaker 2: you'll find their fingerprints all over. Let me let me
Speaker 2: go back and talk a little bit about a little
Speaker 2: bit of more Solby Cells, and then we'll get to
Speaker 2: a person who is affected by this. At the same time.
Speaker 2: Doctor Selby Cells, principal investigative, moved to Texas Christian University
Speaker 2: after a decade at the Air Force School of Aviation
Speaker 2: Medicine at Randolph Field. Having worked as a statistician for
Speaker 2: the government during World War Two. He founded the Institute
Speaker 2: of Behavioral Research at Texas Christian University and also worked
Speaker 2: for the Office of Naval Research, NASA and Air Force.
Speaker 2: All these guys are in on this and have been
Speaker 2: since the get go, you know, to an enormous extent.
Speaker 2: So as a statistician he studied great amounts of data
Speaker 2: to statistically and find find patterns and ways to predict
Speaker 2: man's behavior. He tabulated the importance of hundreds of environmental
Speaker 2: factors to Mand's behavior. And then I make the comment
Speaker 2: here that we can speculate that this modern. In the
Speaker 2: modern world, you know, data is the new goal, and
Speaker 2: NSA is after big data or metadata, and this I
Speaker 2: believe all part of the same thing. The more data
Speaker 2: they can get, the more can control they can wield
Speaker 2: over all aspects of human life and life in general.
Speaker 2: So I believe that they want to extend these technologies
Speaker 2: to track, target, and activate everyone electromagnetically unless we the
Speaker 2: people can wake up and say no, thank you. In fact,
Speaker 2: you should be in jail. In fact, we're going to
Speaker 2: put you in jail. You know, it's like whatever happened
Speaker 2: to manu it. You know, if if you're if your
Speaker 2: life and the life of your your entire your nation
Speaker 2: and your family, and you know, everybody, everything you hold
Speaker 2: sacred is threatened, you know, with lions and tigers, and
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you know, you step up, or at
Speaker 2: least our ancestors did, and you know, took care of
Speaker 2: the situation and survived. Now we have a we have
Speaker 2: a threat that is, you know, exponentially greater than the
Speaker 2: threats faced by you know, uh place to see man,
Speaker 2: you know ice age man. And and this is it.
Speaker 1: You can see the data stuff happening right now in
Speaker 1: the kill box and Gaza. They're using palenteer to target people,
Speaker 1: murder people with AI. They've already killed my seven famous
Speaker 1: chefs there who are helping people. That's the model for
Speaker 1: the future, guys. Literal sky net terminator type stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's all from the sky. So you're living in an
Speaker 1: urban area with a grid that can be mapped and
Speaker 1: traced and tracked. H this could be turned on you, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not scared, but well, you already went through the
Speaker 1: whole pill box thing of COVID two anyway, which was
Speaker 1: what to four or five years ago, so you're seeing
Speaker 1: it rolled out the technocratic up Like, it's funny to
Speaker 1: watch some of these commentators like the technocracy is on
Speaker 1: the horizon. It's we're over the horizon, guy, The horizon
Speaker 1: point is way past. You're deluding yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, I totally agree with everything, is why I really
Speaker 2: enjoy our conversations when but I don't agree, Okay, Ray kurzwell,
Speaker 2: one of the same tribe who's been under this you know, transhumanism,
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, singularity JAG since the sixties. So this is
Speaker 2: a long term plan, you know, you know and and elon,
Speaker 2: they're all saying, Okay, we have to merge with AI
Speaker 2: to survive.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, AI is just a bunch of algorithms people
Speaker 2: long mathematical equations that can be accessed very closely that
Speaker 2: can you know, do this and do that. In the
Speaker 2: other the human brain, in my opinion, is far superior.
Speaker 2: Again God, we're made by God. These guys are Satanists
Speaker 2: and they're harnessing the tools of mathematics and computers and
Speaker 2: chips and whatnot. But I think they're gonna go down
Speaker 2: in flames. I think this is like the wings of Icarus.
Speaker 2: There they're flying into the sun. You know. They want
Speaker 2: to be gods, they want to live forever, and they
Speaker 2: want to enslave the rest of us. I do believe
Speaker 2: there's a God in heaven. I think these guys are
Speaker 2: going down in flames, and I pray that that will
Speaker 2: happen soon because they're gonna they're gonna damage a lot
Speaker 2: of people. But so in other words, I would not
Speaker 2: be buffaloed by their rhetoric because they will say anything
Speaker 2: to accomplish their goal, and they've proving that time and
Speaker 2: time again. So if they can make you believe that
Speaker 2: this is inevitable, that AI is going to be so
Speaker 2: powerful that the only way we can survive is if
Speaker 2: we merge, take the chick, you know, neuralink chip in
Speaker 2: our head, and let Elon control us like a marionette,
Speaker 2: turn us off when he wants or when the banks
Speaker 2: want or whatever. This is just not true. These guys
Speaker 2: are are professional con men. But anyway, going going back.
Speaker 1: To all those guys, by the way, a lot of
Speaker 1: those technocrats who are around now are surrounding Trump are
Speaker 1: technical sales guys. They are good salesmen. They're always nudging people.
Speaker 1: You can watch Teal talk or musk this is inevitable.
Speaker 1: They're they're predicting it because that's where their money is.
Speaker 1: And they've done this for decades, and so you have
Speaker 1: to see them. Part of them as selling their tech
Speaker 1: to you. Like you said, it's inevitable, it's gonna be us,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna provide it. They're gonna provide the benefit
Speaker 1: you and make money off.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's a little disconcerting or way misconcerting that
Speaker 2: the Pentagon has chosen to gift these amazing technologies to
Speaker 2: this group of people. You know, for instance, Pallanteer does
Speaker 2: does what you know, what's the name of total total
Speaker 2: Information Awareness? That was that was coming out right after
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. They had a new branch of government
Speaker 2: that was going to spy and on everybody and know
Speaker 2: what everybody's doing. And who was the guy that Poindexter
Speaker 2: John Poindexter from the Iran contra. I mean, these guys
Speaker 2: are just total criminals. That's a reco conspiracy basically. But
Speaker 2: the Pentagon has handed these incredible technologies that DARPA and
Speaker 2: others and all these air force and military people have
Speaker 2: put together over over all these decades. They handed it
Speaker 2: to these these billionaires or they the billionaires are getting
Speaker 2: becoming billionaires by having these technologies. So the Pentagon is
Speaker 2: definitely in the loop on this. But let's let's go
Speaker 2: back to the next I think the next entry in
Speaker 2: the timeline here nineteen fifty nine, because this deals with
Speaker 2: a targeted individual and this is coming out of Operation
Speaker 2: Mind Control Researchers Edition by Walter Bowart that I talked about.
Speaker 2: He has about I don't know, six or seven pages
Speaker 2: of testimony from this very very brilliant man who himself
Speaker 2: became a psychologist.
Speaker 1: And you know he.
Speaker 2: Would have dealt with some of the top elites in America.
Speaker 2: So he was in that category. But until he was
Speaker 2: something like forty two, he was under mind control. Did
Speaker 2: not realize that he had been His mind had been fragmented.
Speaker 2: He was fragmented into a number of subalter personalities through torture,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So he says in this book, you know
Speaker 2: he's been a slave, he's been a targeted individual since birth.
Speaker 2: But here are the landmarks of and this is how
Speaker 2: it fits in with I think Solby Cells and doctor
Speaker 2: Ewan Cameron. He says, at age twelve, a target individual
Speaker 2: since birth, Glenn Nichols was informed he had a hearing
Speaker 2: problem and was implanted with a temporary radio receiver and
Speaker 2: told it was a hearing aid at fifteen, nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 2: See I'm seventy five. You know these dates mean something
Speaker 2: to me. You know, at fifty nine hours ten years old,
Speaker 2: you know, so I mean people around me, you know,
Speaker 2: would have been going through this some people. You know
Speaker 2: this is these are top secret crimes, is what they are.
Speaker 2: That's national security statement. I'm national security. You know, we
Speaker 2: can't talk about that. At age fifteen, nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 2: Nichols was secretly reptitiously, as the word they used, implanted
Speaker 2: with Mini Tries radio receiver placed in his ear canal.
Speaker 2: This produced very low volume subliminal massages to control him.
Speaker 2: Nicolae Nichols realizations of these devices in his ears were
Speaker 2: always erased with torture, drugs and electricity. Okay, going back
Speaker 2: to you and Cameron, the whole business of trauma based
Speaker 2: mind control to compartment the mind and place amnesia barriers
Speaker 2: between the subalter personalities that have been created, and then
Speaker 2: use codes, cues and triggers to actually treat the human
Speaker 2: brain like a computer. And this is what the intelligence
Speaker 2: agencies were doing post World War two, And as it
Speaker 2: turns out, the Nazis were doing this during War TOI
Speaker 2: World War two of course at the at the concentration camps.
Speaker 2: But the Germans apparently we're one one culture in which
Speaker 2: this kind of thing goes in, goes back maybe twelve
Speaker 2: generations in elite families like the Illuminati, the Bavarian Illuminati.
Speaker 2: How do you weaponize your children so that they, you know,
Speaker 2: they will you know, have all these different identities that
Speaker 2: you can control. One's going to be, you know, super smart.
Speaker 2: One's going to be a Satanist. One's going to be
Speaker 2: a Christian minister. One's going to be whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: sex slave. One's going to be a courier. One's going
Speaker 2: to be an assassin. So you the CW, you figured
Speaker 2: out how to make thousands of these subaltered personalities. I've digressed, okay,
Speaker 2: but this is what was all done in the forties
Speaker 2: and fifties.
Speaker 1: Could I just talked to actually had somebody called I
Speaker 1: had a guest. Her name was Rique from Germany, and
Speaker 1: the title of the book was Illuminati in Germany. And
Speaker 1: she had tons of altars and all kinds of crazy
Speaker 1: stuff that is scarcely believable. But there's clearly, like these cults,
Speaker 1: there's one global, huge cult. Yes, I think she took
Speaker 1: part of it, like Underground Network is traveling going to
Speaker 1: the Queen of Sweden. But her stories overlap with other
Speaker 1: survivor stories and there's validation, at least in some parts
Speaker 1: of it, and so it isn't interact. A lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know because the Illuminati started in Bavaria. It
Speaker 1: was ingeld Stock, but it had a big influence on
Speaker 1: that time. They were very much more elite as aristocrats.
Speaker 1: They were involved in the French revel illusion. They infiltrate
Speaker 1: a lot of other secret societies, so they're almost like
Speaker 1: a secret society with that society. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In fact and the Council of Wilhelm's Bod in seventeen
Speaker 2: eighty two. Illuminati was founded in seventeen seventy six by
Speaker 2: Adam Weishop for the Rothschild family in cooperation with the
Speaker 2: elite of the time in that area of the very
Speaker 2: very wealthy elite, including the Sanhedron. I believe, who is
Speaker 2: the kind of the judges of the of the Hebrew faith.
Speaker 2: We're in on this plan to take over the world
Speaker 2: in seventeen seventy six, and then they there was a
Speaker 2: courier that was sending plans for the French Revolution to
Speaker 2: France struck by lightning. Those plans were recovered by governments
Speaker 2: and then the Illuminati Bavaria tried to shut them down.
Speaker 2: But what happened was in seventeen eighty two at the
Speaker 2: Council of Wilhelm's Bod. The Illuminati kingpins like Adam Weishop
Speaker 2: managed to fuse themselves with the largest secrets around, which
Speaker 2: is the Masons, and then put in the top degrees.
Speaker 2: So the Illuminati degrees are the top degrees of masonry,
Speaker 2: and masonry has carried forth this, this and all of
Speaker 2: the all of the uh the different degrees of masonry
Speaker 2: based on the Jewish kabba Allah, which is the system
Speaker 2: of Babylonian black magic that uh, you know, the old
Speaker 2: Pharisees got from from from their quote unquote uh captivity
Speaker 2: in Babylon. So this is the most potent form of
Speaker 2: black magic in the world. So this is why Satanism
Speaker 2: keeps cropping up in these programs. Satanism is is an
Speaker 2: integral part of these things. It is used uh in
Speaker 2: the in the traumatic trauma based mind control. It is
Speaker 2: Satanic ritual abuse that is used, which can again be
Speaker 2: traced back to this Bavarian Illuminati. And this is how
Speaker 2: they raise their own kits. And when when the German
Speaker 2: Nazi U, well, the Galen organization was was a third
Speaker 2: of the ss was was the spy agency of the
Speaker 2: Nazis that spied on the Russians and that was grafted
Speaker 2: in total into the new CIA in nineteen forty seven
Speaker 2: when the CIA was formed. So nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 1: They're uncovering. They're uncovering more information Eric about connections between
Speaker 1: Himler and wait, Dolus who started MK Ultra, Like it's
Speaker 1: becoming like we know Dolus was in Switzerland, but Dolus
Speaker 1: was involved in his brother in taking all this money
Speaker 1: that the Germans stole SS, in con contact with SS
Speaker 1: and taking the money out of the country. And then
Speaker 1: the war ended and all that money was repatriated back
Speaker 1: to Germany through friends of like Sullivan and Cromwell. Like
Speaker 1: these are facts, Like it's not a conspiracy theory, Like
Speaker 1: this is star stuff that people are researching, and these
Speaker 1: are factual things. This woman who I Haverique from Germany.
Speaker 1: She would go to Babelsburg, which is the still extant
Speaker 1: castle of the SS.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and then you get into the you know,
Speaker 2: you get some Christian ministers, and I've researched this because
Speaker 2: I'm very curious and interested in this that you know,
Speaker 2: we say, okay, the Holy Germany was the Holy Roman Empire,
Speaker 2: you know, through the Middle Ages and many believe, and
Speaker 2: the kind of the fundamentalist Christians would believe that the
Speaker 2: throne of Satan was there, and the throne of Satan
Speaker 2: then would have moved to Israel in nineteen forty eight
Speaker 2: when that was formed. That's what he says. I don't
Speaker 2: know about the throne of Satan, but I think it's
Speaker 2: quite possible because we are dealing with very, very black
Speaker 2: stuff here. And in terms of Himmler, there's a whole
Speaker 2: chapter called Himmler's guinea Pigs in Operation Mind Control. And
Speaker 2: Walter Bowart makes the point that between nineteen twenty seven
Speaker 2: and nineteen forty one, which is in between World War
Speaker 2: One and World War I two in Germany, really we
Speaker 2: had the the forerunner of what became Project Monarch in
Speaker 2: the United States, which is the program that's creating all
Speaker 2: these uh Mancharan candidate assassins and sex slaves, you know,
Speaker 2: like Marilyn Monroe and and Kathy O'Brien and Susan Bryan
Speaker 2: Bryce uh Bryce Taylor. Susan Ford is a real name
Speaker 2: and a great great many Paul and Atte Bonacci of
Speaker 2: the frankmin cover up. These are these are Monarch victims
Speaker 2: who are victims of this this kind of programming done
Speaker 2: on military basis. So what seems to have happened is
Speaker 2: that this ancient German tradition of of torturing your kids,
Speaker 2: which of course includes raping them, because that that that
Speaker 2: that causes association of the mind and and then the
Speaker 2: altars can be split off and trained up to be
Speaker 2: different identities. This, this this ancient kind of wicked evil
Speaker 2: system was adopted by our military intelligence uh agencies right
Speaker 2: about that time nineteen forty seven or right about that,
Speaker 2: and then it was kind of put underground in the
Speaker 2: military and with corporations and move forward more scientifically. And
Speaker 2: this a lot of these subprojects then are to take
Speaker 2: that very system of Himmler's guinea pigs and make it
Speaker 2: more potent. So going back to this poor guy, Glenny Nichols,
Speaker 2: whose life was totally.
Speaker 3: Ruined by these guys, he says, at twenty eight years
Speaker 3: of age in nineteen sixty seven, Nichols was surgically implanted
Speaker 3: with a miniature radio receiver and transmitter behind the right
Speaker 3: ear canal next.
Speaker 2: To his ear drum. He was told he heard his
Speaker 2: ear playing football over the next twenty years. Nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: seven to eighty seven. This receiver transmitter, which is called
Speaker 2: it transceiver sends and receives like a radio, was replaced
Speaker 2: a couple times. At about twenty three years old nineteen seventy,
Speaker 2: Nichols had any EEG electro encephalogram transmitter and play in
Speaker 2: his brain. Now, okay, so you talk about Elon's neurallink, Well,
Speaker 2: they were doing this in nineteen seventy and was informed
Speaker 2: that they used biomedical telemetry. That's your telehealth, biomedical telemetry.
Speaker 2: It's also teletrture by the way, if you're TI, a
Speaker 2: TI biomedical telemetry and computers to read the EG. So
Speaker 2: you've got supercomputers, you've got satellites, you've got electromagnetic frequencies,
Speaker 2: and they know what all of them do, and they
Speaker 2: know how to interpret them, and they know how to
Speaker 2: send them and receive them. And they can put this
Speaker 2: frequency in your brain and affect your mood and your thoughts.
Speaker 2: They can read your thoughts. The thought reading devices happened,
Speaker 2: and you can go through this article and find when
Speaker 2: these things came along. Okay, And then about the age
Speaker 2: of thirty three nineteen eighty, an electrode was inserted into
Speaker 2: his nostril. At age forty two, nineteen eighty nine, Nichols
Speaker 2: began to realize finally he had massive memory loss and
Speaker 2: was the victim of mind control to and slavery. Calls
Speaker 2: himself a slave, recalling thousands of conditioning sessions and abusers.
Speaker 2: This what's all about his abuse? They just abuse the
Speaker 2: hell out of you and hope you'll die. They want
Speaker 2: to break your will with insults and abuse. And it's
Speaker 2: just like that football helmet that this guy Rosenthal, who
Speaker 2: was the assistant of you and Cameron rigged up for
Speaker 2: those poor pigeons up in Canada. And Okay, so this
Speaker 2: guy Nichols says, they read every thought this is nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine, made continual bizarre, distracting comments, give constant subliminal commands.
Speaker 2: They can do this, folks, and use high pitched sounds
Speaker 2: against me every moment. They use a combination of extremely demented, vulgar, heinous,
Speaker 2: and satanic ranting. That's typical. Then alternate this with informing
Speaker 2: me of the details of thousands of days of experience
Speaker 2: for which I have had complete amnesia. They have been
Speaker 2: controlling and torturing me for my entire life. The perpetrators
Speaker 2: increase their subliminal broadcast to a conscious level, and have
Speaker 2: been using the speakers and the EEG transmitter to torture
Speaker 2: me continuously since June nineteen ninety one. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 2: And then he goes on to say, they tell me
Speaker 2: they are the Illuminati, or the Freemasons, or quote the Brotherhood,
Speaker 2: or they might say they're the CIA or the NSA,
Speaker 2: or the US Navy Intelligence or US Army Intelligence, US
Speaker 2: Air Force intelligence. Actually they're all involved, or a particular
Speaker 2: corporation like Rockwell International or Lockey Corporation or Northrop Grammat
Speaker 2: or Excell and they are all involved. I've read enough
Speaker 2: accounts from TIS to know they're all involved, as well
Speaker 2: as many many others. Probably each description contains some truth.
Speaker 2: Just I just think of them as, quote the organization.
Speaker 2: Walter Bullert refers them to them, among other things, as
Speaker 2: the Council, a very small elite group that is above
Speaker 2: all governments, controls all government, much like John Kennedy announced,
Speaker 2: you know, in his nineteen sixty one address to the
Speaker 2: press about this secret network that was really in control
Speaker 2: of things, and he was going to warn the American people,
Speaker 2: he said, before they were able to enslave us. Well,
Speaker 2: he had a good heart anyway, you know, they killed
Speaker 2: him for that. But what I'm I'll stop there. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you might have a thought or too, William.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's an incredible story. I mean
Speaker 1: it was all suppressed a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, results, yeah, But they have all these secret,
Speaker 2: top secret projects. You call them black projects. Operation Moonstruck
Speaker 2: I've got in there nineteen fifty two. Again, it's military intelligence.
Speaker 2: If we scroll back on our screen to nineteen fifty two,
Speaker 2: we see Project Moonstruck nineteen fifty two CIA electronic implants
Speaker 2: and brain and teeth. There weren't plenty kids and adults
Speaker 2: in America secret with implants in nineteen fifty two. I
Speaker 2: was three years old. They might have been planning with me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, the other purpose long range targeting. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're going to track these people and they're going to
Speaker 2: target them. Nineteen fifty two, Folks three, implanting during surgery
Speaker 2: and surreptitiously. That's where I got that word secretly during abduction?
Speaker 2: Oh abduction. Was it be the Little Green Men or
Speaker 2: would it be the Air Force? I think it's the
Speaker 2: Air force, and this explains I believe the military abductions.
Speaker 2: And I think this whole alien thing has always been
Speaker 2: a blind or a screen or a cover story to
Speaker 2: protect this and that idea has borne out by many,
Speaker 2: many others. Paul Binacci, this poor sex slave who was
Speaker 2: kidnapped from his home at the age of four or
Speaker 2: five in Kansas and then went on to service George W.
Speaker 2: Bush and other high ups George H. W. Bush and
Speaker 2: other high ups and the first Bush administration in the
Speaker 2: Franklin cover up situation. He says, he, Hey, if we
Speaker 2: didn't talk about little green men, they'd kill us, you know.
Speaker 2: So he tells a lot about what happened to him,
Speaker 2: and he has been interviewed by quite a few people
Speaker 2: like psychologists, the good psychologists trying to help people. Hey
Speaker 2: number four. The frequency range that they're using for electronic
Speaker 2: frequencies high frequency to extremely low frequency. And they can
Speaker 2: use a high frequency signal carried on a low frequency signal.
Speaker 2: So you have you have carrier waves, and then you
Speaker 2: have the information being it's like radio uh. And then
Speaker 2: you have post frequencies. And in microwaves, the most dramatic
Speaker 2: effects are not associated with heat. There are different wavelengths
Speaker 2: of microwaves, and of course your your microwave at home
Speaker 2: will heat up your coffee by heating the water molecules.
Speaker 2: But there's also non thermal effects, non thermal biological effects
Speaker 2: of microwaves that the Russians, the Soviets, and the United
Speaker 2: States who we're studying for many, many decades, and these
Speaker 2: are the ones that are really really dangerous. In fact,
Speaker 2: there was more or less a Cold War. I think
Speaker 2: this was the axis of the Cold War. Actually, see
Speaker 2: the nukes that have already been discovered, the top people say, hey,
Speaker 2: we don't want to you know, we don't want to
Speaker 2: incerate the whole planet. So we have to figure out
Speaker 2: invisible forms of warfare, invisible weapons, and so this is
Speaker 2: what they're doing. These are invisible weapons. You can't see them,
Speaker 2: you can't hear them, but you can cause a heck
Speaker 2: of a lot of damage.
Speaker 1: What's that document that's like of specious validity? It's such
Speaker 1: secret weapons for silent wars or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, silent weapons for secret war. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 2: document that's found in an IBM, you know xerox machine,
Speaker 2: I think in the eighties. But it was supposedly referring
Speaker 2: to a meeting that had occurred in the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 2: and I think it was you know, it's basically how
Speaker 2: we're going to take over the world with engineering. You know,
Speaker 2: assume everything is a big black box. Really understand everything,
Speaker 2: but you can control it by you know, inputs, outputs,
Speaker 2: feedback loop. You put in the inputs and then you
Speaker 2: measure the outputs and then you feed the outputs back
Speaker 2: in or whatever else has in the feedback loop. And
Speaker 2: this is kind of standard engineering for you know, systems,
Speaker 2: and this became a whole huge field. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: millions trillions of dollars have been spent on all this
Speaker 2: stuff since the fifties, and as you say, it's been
Speaker 2: a well kept secret. So yeah, that is another document
Speaker 2: which I think really does truthfully tell what their plans are.
Speaker 2: And I also think and Board also agrees that this
Speaker 2: report from Iron Mountain, which happened in the sixties under
Speaker 2: Herman Khan of the Tribe, also with the Hudson Institute,
Speaker 2: which prescribed the direction of not only America but the world,
Speaker 2: well it's come true, including things like socially oriented hunger games.
Speaker 2: But what is organized stocking if not a socially oriented
Speaker 2: hunger game, you know, you turn society into you know,
Speaker 2: predators and pray. And this is what we have too,
Speaker 2: although the media is not likely to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm being stocked by other Americans, being stocked
Speaker 2: by British Mexicans. I mean evidently they're being either commandeered
Speaker 2: mentally by a very powerful system which can take over
Speaker 2: their minds, or else they're actually you know, part of
Speaker 2: a cult that does this stuff for fun. And I
Speaker 2: think that's the case. I think both are the case, actually,
Speaker 2: because many ways to get people to turn on each other.
Speaker 2: You know, you can just lie and say, okay, that
Speaker 2: guy's a pedophile or that woman's a prostitute or whoever,
Speaker 2: and then we got to get them, you know, and
Speaker 2: we or this an FBI man. We don't have quite
Speaker 2: enough on this suspect to arrest them, but well, you
Speaker 2: need your help and investigation. Would you kindly put this
Speaker 2: through the wall radar device you're in your home, so
Speaker 2: we can spy on him, you know, and by the way,
Speaker 2: we'll give you a new roof, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, there's so much money. You can look at USA
Speaker 1: Idea as an example of how the money comes out
Speaker 1: of the taxpayer, goes out to these smaller entities within
Speaker 1: the government and then goes to NGOs or other covers
Speaker 1: or cutouts, Intel cutouts, and then it happens. And then
Speaker 1: that's a form of washing. So it's washing the money
Speaker 1: and it's also washing the connection. So so many the
Speaker 1: CIA has done that, and all these Intel agents do
Speaker 1: that like reflexively, like that's just their nature. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like silly. So many of these these I mean,
Speaker 1: so much of this stuff is artificial and fake. So
Speaker 1: they can do this, they can get people killed or
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's actually a government program to
Speaker 1: go after anybody on the independent media. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's.
Speaker 2: US control over everybody. You know, I came out with
Speaker 2: myw dot com website. I knew right away nine to
Speaker 2: eleven was an inside job. And you know, as people
Speaker 2: from my generation would, you know, we've seen the government
Speaker 2: in action. You know, we saw during the Vietnam War,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, you get on a list, you know,
Speaker 2: and they all potential terra's threat with Department of Homeland
Speaker 2: Security and the FBI and now the fusion centers and
Speaker 2: now local cops and you know, pretty soon as your neighbors.
Speaker 2: And you know, this is a gigantic Stasi system in
Speaker 2: fact modeled on the Stasi, you know, who came over
Speaker 2: from East Germany. But Marcus Wolf, you know, the head
Speaker 2: of this eastmas Stasi to to form Department of Homeland Security,
Speaker 2: which of course he was a consultant.
Speaker 1: He was a consultant. Yeah, And I mean the stories
Speaker 1: of Eastern Germany. I think we talked about in one
Speaker 1: of our earlier talks, like it was total. Everybody was
Speaker 1: ratting out everybody else. So everybody had files, and they
Speaker 1: had files on every citizen, and everybody was an informant,
Speaker 1: like every other person was an So the government was
Speaker 1: just getting blackmail material everybody. So like the notion like
Speaker 1: only elites or blackmail, that is ridiculous because East Germany
Speaker 1: you all have.
Speaker 2: I think that's come here now America, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is that system, you know, And not only that,
Speaker 2: it is also the Vietnamese, well, the CIA's Phoenix program,
Speaker 2: which was used to target torture and murder quote unquote
Speaker 2: dissidents or civilians in Vietnam who were supporting the Vietnam
Speaker 2: and that became the organizational model then a Department of
Speaker 2: homelown security. If you read Douglas Valentine's book The CIA
Speaker 2: as Organized Crime, How Covert Operations Corrupt America and the World,
Speaker 2: written in twenty seventeen, he nailed it. I mean, he
Speaker 2: wrote the book on the Phoenix Program, and like I say,
Speaker 2: they have a way of recycling these names so people
Speaker 2: will forget about the earlier more horrible programs. But the
Speaker 2: Phoenix Program is one of one of the most horrific
Speaker 2: things you could possibly read about. I mean, they were
Speaker 2: they never let one of the guys they're going after
Speaker 2: in the civilian population are just teachers, and you know,
Speaker 2: politicians and farmers and anybody who might have influence in
Speaker 2: the community was targeted. And then they were interrogated, and
Speaker 2: of course that's a euphemism for torture. And they used
Speaker 2: the mk ULT results in their Kubarc manual the CIA did,
Speaker 2: which came out in nineteen sixty three, that's their Enhanced
Speaker 2: Interrogation or Torture Manual, and they updated that in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five. This is what the SEI has been doing
Speaker 2: all over the world, all over Latin America, all over
Speaker 2: the Middle East. This is how the American empire extends
Speaker 2: itself through torture, through terror, through murder. You might as
Speaker 2: well call the United States Torture, murder, terror, inc. Because
Speaker 2: that is what it is. And now it's all come
Speaker 2: home with this Department of Homeland Security. And like you say,
Speaker 2: people are a hatting each other out. You know, if
Speaker 2: you see something, say something, you know, and you know,
Speaker 2: you get I don't know, brownie points, you know, with
Speaker 2: the police or whatever, or you know, if you're a criminal,
Speaker 2: you know, the police will make a deal with you
Speaker 2: and you you go, you know, stok this guy. And
Speaker 2: there's an entire there must be millions, many many millions
Speaker 2: in America that you're driving around, you know, evidently obeying
Speaker 2: orders that come to them on their cell phone app
Speaker 2: or maybe right directly into their mind like you saw
Speaker 2: on the Truman Show. I don't know, maybe these people
Speaker 2: are already totally controlled because they act like zombies. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like a zombie army of civilians, and a lot
Speaker 2: of them are bottom feeders. But I can see, having
Speaker 2: been now stocked for eleven years, that the special forces
Speaker 2: and the ex military and ex cops and active military
Speaker 2: and active cops are are kind of at the upper
Speaker 2: levels of the actual execution of this. So we have
Speaker 2: a system already in place by which the many can
Speaker 2: take out, can go against the one. It's the most cowardly,
Speaker 2: despicable bullying you can imagine when you see what they're
Speaker 2: actually doing. But see it's it's compartments. So they they
Speaker 2: they're told to go do this, okay, tailgate that guy,
Speaker 2: or cut him off here, or say this, or you know,
Speaker 2: knock his shoulder or whatever. You know, they don't see
Speaker 2: the larger effect of the fact that this particular targeted
Speaker 2: individual is getting arrested like that every day, multiple times,
Speaker 2: and that the program is psychologically designed to break down
Speaker 2: again back to the camera thing, break down the individual's
Speaker 2: identity with me. They've had a hard nut, you know
Speaker 2: some of my I'm you know, six foot one on
Speaker 2: climb mountains all over the world as a rock climber
Speaker 2: out across the counchy ski racer. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: a small guy, you know, and I'm not dumb, so
Speaker 2: you know I've survived. But they want to keep constant
Speaker 2: stress and pressure on the individual so that the cortisol
Speaker 2: will break, will build up, and your heart will stop,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean this is very, very evil, and
Speaker 2: it's going on paid for by taxpayer money and being
Speaker 2: carried out by Americans on mass. So I'm kind of
Speaker 2: porn now whether I want to keep trying to help America,
Speaker 2: you know, because so many of them have turned on
Speaker 2: me individually.
Speaker 1: But going to wake up, they have to wake up,
Speaker 1: They have to wake up, like they've been hypnotized, never
Speaker 1: repeated that kind of on some of my social media
Speaker 1: that I haven't been censored is that this whole zombie
Speaker 1: thing is like, if you're well going down, you can
Speaker 1: get your programming done every night if you turn your
Speaker 1: TV on and it flashes at you and literally you
Speaker 1: can see the whole hive mind of the society change
Speaker 1: overnight after a night of programming. It's literal mind control programming.
Speaker 1: So if you watch TV or TV news, there's a
Speaker 1: puppeteer behind that, and you should, I mean, you should
Speaker 1: be terrified of your television. You really should. And I'm
Speaker 1: hold on, Eric, we are at the hour mark. I
Speaker 1: got to wrap this up. Is okay? Thing that you'd
Speaker 1: like to add or where can people find your work?
Speaker 1: You've mentioned your websites, man, you can talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'll put a link to this article in the show
Speaker 1: notes of.
Speaker 2: Well, I would ask people to read through this because
Speaker 2: to know is to take the first step towards being
Speaker 2: able to respond appropriately. If you don't know that this
Speaker 2: is the world you're living in, and this has been
Speaker 2: the world for the you know, last since said World
Speaker 2: War Two, and you don't know who's behind it and
Speaker 2: what they've got in terms of weaponry. If you don't
Speaker 2: know who your enemy is, you're defenseless. So I would
Speaker 2: suggest you know. And of course seventy percent of these
Speaker 2: victims historically are women, so so a lot of the
Speaker 2: people that are stepping up and doing the researcher women
Speaker 2: because they're coming out of hell or trying to come
Speaker 2: out of hell. T I's they're trying to place Tis
Speaker 2: in hell. And if you, the American people don't step
Speaker 2: up and try to stop this program and hold the
Speaker 2: leaders accountable for the crimes they're committing, it's going to
Speaker 2: come to you, you know, just a matter of time,
Speaker 2: you know. So my my whole thing is that this
Speaker 2: is probably the beast system, and it's been going on incrementally.
Speaker 2: It's been developing since the fifties and the forties, and
Speaker 2: it's been under the control of our intelligence and military
Speaker 2: as well as our top scientists and psychologists and medical people.
Speaker 2: To the extent to which we have been betrayed by
Speaker 2: the people that we have placed our trust in is
Speaker 2: I mean, it's sad, but it's true. And you won't
Speaker 2: know that unless you, you know, kind of knuckle down,
Speaker 2: turn off the TV. And I would suggest William, get
Speaker 2: away from your cell phone as much as you can,
Speaker 2: because that device is a weapon. They can spy on
Speaker 2: you with that thing, they can locace you with that thing.
Speaker 2: That is the gateway.
Speaker 1: That is the.
Speaker 2: Gateway for all telehealth and teletrture. They have access to
Speaker 2: you through frequencies with your cell phone and with the apps.
Speaker 2: So get away from the cell phone. We've got to
Speaker 2: figure out ways.
Speaker 1: To complete as many apps as you can, you know,
Speaker 1: basically peer it down to the fewest apps on your phone.
Speaker 2: As possible, or and don't carry that thing with you.
Speaker 2: Maybe hold it, you know, about ten feet away, drag
Speaker 2: it on a sled or something, you know, a little wagon.
Speaker 2: You know. The frequencies themselves can cause you cancer. And
Speaker 2: so I think this world has been built around us deliberately.
Speaker 2: We can find out who did it we can find
Speaker 2: out when they did it. And that's what this article
Speaker 2: is about. I would implore people to wade through it
Speaker 2: to learn what world they're living and they don't know
Speaker 2: if you're gangstocking somebody else. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: think you're rightfully going to hell. You're putting other people
Speaker 2: in hell. You're you know, gang stocking is torture, It
Speaker 2: is murder or attempted murder. It is treason.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a thing we know from the past
Speaker 1: that there are people out there will sell their fellow
Speaker 1: countrymen out for a dollar, like literally one dollar, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying for dollars. So they find these people, they
Speaker 1: find them out there and they'll do it. So you
Speaker 1: have to really watch out for sociopaths like a psycho
Speaker 1: psychological analysis of people. It's very important. Eric, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. I'll put a link to everything
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