Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Deep Blue Sea. In the podcast,
Speaker 1: I am Mark Palm Blood Ledding Halfmeyer.
Speaker 2: And I am Jay What clue to working overboard the podcast?
Speaker 2: On this show, we've been into the entire Deep C
Speaker 2: trilogy scene by seeing I'm doing it again with all
Speaker 2: new wonderful guests. This is DeepC one, chapter thirty. What
Speaker 2: happens in DEPC one, Chapter thirty Let's have a listen.
Speaker 3: The shark bashes against defense again. Carter makes his way
Speaker 3: to the end of the sinking walkway, training the cable
Speaker 3: behind him. He takes that position an aim. The shark
Speaker 3: submerges and he can't see the shot.
Speaker 4: Damn, I can't get her, She's too far away.
Speaker 3: Susan has a realization I know.
Speaker 4: How to get her. How bait what.
Speaker 3: Cart is distracted by the ramming into the fence again. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: Susan takes a discussing rusted piece of metal and badly
Speaker 3: cuts the palm for right hand.
Speaker 4: She may be the smartest animal in the world, but
Speaker 4: she's still just an animal.
Speaker 5: Come to Mamma.
Speaker 3: Susan jumps from the tower into the water and swims
Speaker 3: away from the wall.
Speaker 1: No Susan, No, Susan.
Speaker 6: Don't.
Speaker 3: The recovering preacher opens an eye. Susan treads water out
Speaker 3: in the open. The shark senses her blood and heads
Speaker 3: for her, so Susan swims back to the wall.
Speaker 4: Get out of the water.
Speaker 3: Carter races along the walkway with the gun. As the
Speaker 3: sharks closer, Susan reaches for a ladder run, it comes
Speaker 3: away from the wall in her hat, stranding her in
Speaker 3: the water. She turns to face her creation. The shark
Speaker 3: stops in front of her, baring his teeth as Carter
Speaker 3: runs and dives into the water, but he is too late,
Speaker 3: as the shark swipes Susan from the side, chumps her
Speaker 3: in half, thrashes her around a bit, and eats her
Speaker 3: all up, thinking no crumbs. Cart looks on in horror.
Speaker 2: So that was deep See one chapter thirty. We've got
Speaker 2: a wonderful guest to help us talk about this chapter.
Speaker 2: This is actually our third chapter in a row of
Speaker 2: let's chools for a minute hosts and regular guests. So
Speaker 2: completing the trifactor started with with Sarah, and then we
Speaker 2: had Jack, and now we have m J Smith for
Speaker 2: what that's Gal from MJ. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me, guys, I am very stoked
Speaker 4: to talk about this movie. Also, we when we recorded
Speaker 4: this weekend, I was like, is there an LJ fan
Speaker 4: sandwich that's happening over on the DeepC podcast?
Speaker 2: And I'm glad I was right unintentional, which is kind
Speaker 2: of how the schedule was landed to have orchestraight to day.
Speaker 1: I mean we're kind of kindred spirits. I mean, we
Speaker 1: dedicate vast quantities of time to Shark movie podcasts, so
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll naturally be drawn together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is feel a little inevitable, right.
Speaker 4: And also, how how great of a guest is Jack Cooper?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wonderful best? Yeah, we asked him. We just gnarly questions
Speaker 1: of the guy.
Speaker 4: Anytime he's on, there is there is bs a bounds
Speaker 4: when it comes like every time he's on, I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe you have, like you've spent so much
Speaker 4: of your life dedicated to this and yet you're willing
Speaker 4: to talk to us about whatever dumb questions we have.
Speaker 2: We just ran through every shot. Question we had from
Speaker 2: the film, is that what this happened? Can chucks do this?
Speaker 2: That was fun for us? Pretty less fun for.
Speaker 1: Him and I pinball all over the place and he
Speaker 1: kept up with us, So that was great. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: learned something today, y'all. So there's a scene in this
Speaker 1: chapter where where Susan doctor Susan McAllister, slices her palm,
Speaker 1: and I just went, why did Why does this always
Speaker 1: happen in movies? So I kind of went down a
Speaker 1: quick rabbit hole and I learned about palm blood letting.
Speaker 1: And so do you guys know about I'm sure you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've researched this, but you all
Speaker 1: know where someone takes something and slices their palm in
Speaker 1: a movie.
Speaker 2: It just happened in Ready or Not too as.
Speaker 1: Opposed to like you know, their forearm or I don't
Speaker 1: know they're calf and or they're anywhere else. Yes, And
Speaker 1: so I found some reasons and I thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. So, like one, it's just easier for staging,
Speaker 1: because it's just easier to hide on your palm, like
Speaker 1: a like a small blood pack squib in their palm.
Speaker 1: And also to like if you cut your forearm, you
Speaker 1: gotta put a bandage on or you need to scar
Speaker 1: the entire movie. You cut your palm, you just hide it,
Speaker 1: which I love and that makes sense. Don't show the palm,
Speaker 1: don't show the polem.
Speaker 4: It's think a lot of times they'll just put a
Speaker 4: bandage around that and it's easier to just wrap a
Speaker 4: couple layers of fabric around that, and like it doesn't
Speaker 4: really screw with mobility all that much either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've ever cut your finger, so like
Speaker 1: I have a cut on one of my fingers here
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been reopening for like six months.
Speaker 1: So if I have something on my palm, I don't
Speaker 1: really take care of the things, Like I'm not going
Speaker 1: to butterfly it, like a probably won't go get stitches.
Speaker 1: So a year from now, I'll probably still be like
Speaker 1: having something wrapped around my hand and it'll probably be
Speaker 1: like stuck to it. So it's it's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I love it. I kind of but I read
Speaker 1: about it and like, I don't know, it's like a handshake,
Speaker 1: you do that so you can do a handshake. Also,
Speaker 1: I guess it was from stage theater or actors would
Speaker 1: hide blood capsules and their pomps or break them, which
Speaker 1: I kind of like. And then also just easy clean up,
Speaker 1: Like it's easier to manage blood on hand than other
Speaker 1: body parts and actually can easily control the flow or
Speaker 1: hide the wound.
Speaker 4: But I like that.
Speaker 1: And also like if you if you see a movie
Speaker 1: where some cuts their forearm, you're like, yeah, like I've
Speaker 1: cut my forearm, but anything with the hand like that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty gnarly. So it's you feel that cut. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to like understand why. And then I
Speaker 1: kind of like looked up a bunch of movies where
Speaker 1: that happens, and there's a lot of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna love Yeah, it happens a lot well.
Speaker 4: And so now that you're thinking or now that you're
Speaker 4: talking about actors hiding blood capsules in their palm, like
Speaker 4: for the stage I was thinking about in Kenneth Branw's Hamlet,
Speaker 4: there's the scene where I think.
Speaker 5: Robin Williams stabs himselves in there.
Speaker 4: He gets stabbed in the stomach and then when they
Speaker 4: pull the knife out, you watch him cover his stomach
Speaker 4: with one hand and then the other and then squeeze
Speaker 4: and then the blood seeps through his palm. So like
Speaker 4: they did that stage craft in the in the film,
Speaker 4: it looks very movie fake, but probably stage real if
Speaker 4: you were watching it on if you were watching a
Speaker 4: production of Hamlet. But that's interesting that it's a blending
Speaker 4: of both of those things. But he also gets the
Speaker 4: blood all over the costume as well, which is what
Speaker 4: you're trying to avoid when you do a cut on
Speaker 4: a palm.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, because you can just show the audience like, oh,
Speaker 1: they got me, and then you don't have to touch
Speaker 1: your outfit. Yeah, when you can just fall so you know,
Speaker 1: like the poor people don't have to wash it every night. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh but yeah, I don't know. And then they found
Speaker 1: the rustiest knife for her to cut it on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even a knife, it's just a bit
Speaker 2: of scrap, as like, why is coming out of it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Ah do you think? Do you I think there's
Speaker 4: bits of Brenda hanging off of that piece of scrap?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sure, yeah, I mean that is pretty part
Speaker 2: of the helicopter actually that we think about it. So
Speaker 2: that's where that came from.
Speaker 1: Oh, there could be some of the pilots. There's some yeah,
Speaker 1: some gunk, there's some what's what do you call inerds?
Speaker 1: What's a great word for that? Vicera?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love that word viscera. But I have a question
Speaker 1: you guys, so you know you're you're pirates, right and
Speaker 1: you have to make a deal with like an ancient
Speaker 1: seagoing deity. But you have to do like a blood
Speaker 1: packed You don't have to handshake it. It just needs
Speaker 1: some of your blood. This is a very more big question.
Speaker 1: But I want to know, like where would you guys
Speaker 1: get it from? Like you have to get your own
Speaker 1: would you like punch yourself in the nose, Like what
Speaker 1: would you do?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I get nose bleeds easily?
Speaker 1: Say, just wait, guys, just wait, I've been.
Speaker 2: Hospitalized with the nose bleak before.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well I I we were talking before we started
Speaker 4: recording Slash, before my internet died that I'm in Colorado
Speaker 4: and I never had nosebleeds until I moved here, and
Speaker 4: it's super dry. So yeah, so that's that's a good shot.
Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe I was thinking maybe my stomach
Speaker 4: just because there's I I'm a bigger guy, so there's
Speaker 4: more surface area, so maybe it'll like it'll hurt less,
Speaker 4: right Yea, But yeah, yeah, I think that's where my
Speaker 4: mind first went to because like we were, like Mark
Speaker 4: said about like the palm. It's there's a lot of
Speaker 4: nerve endings in your hand man, Like, yeah, it's they're
Speaker 4: they're designed to feel stuff that can't like it can't
Speaker 4: feel great to do that.
Speaker 2: You got to go somewhere that's not going to flex
Speaker 2: a bunch like Mark was saying earlier with a cut
Speaker 2: on the finger, Like because I I've been doing some
Speaker 2: gardening works and yard work today. When it's when my
Speaker 2: hands get dry, they crack on the knuckles and then
Speaker 2: they just stay cracked until winter basically chill them. I
Speaker 2: stop doing yard work. So yeah, it's got to be
Speaker 2: the areas that stay big and flat. So that's that's
Speaker 2: the tour. So that's that's the tummy for me. Easy
Speaker 2: or like the side of the thigh or something. Some
Speaker 2: of it's not not near a joint.
Speaker 1: My cat sits on my lap a lot and then
Speaker 1: she's just a maniac fourteen year old calico and she
Speaker 1: jumps off and make sure to put her nails into
Speaker 1: my legs. Like when everyone wearing shorts, I always get
Speaker 1: a cut. So I would just be like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: just wait, like get a cat like have it jump off.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's it. It's a morbid question. But it's
Speaker 1: just such a crazy spot y'all. And it happens in
Speaker 1: so many movies.
Speaker 2: I mean, this whole Susan's whole plan is is nuts.
Speaker 4: The entire movie. Across the entire movie. She's got wacky ideas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel her idea seems bad because they
Speaker 1: just reach shot it. It's like originally she lives so
Speaker 1: like her plan was good, but in this one, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's Coe's eating. I guess she.
Speaker 2: Swims it down a little bit because I mean, she's
Speaker 2: going bay. She is still just an animal. The most
Speaker 2: English she sounds in the whole film, Well, is this
Speaker 2: scene shut your hand and then just dangle your hand
Speaker 2: over and drop some blood in. That would probably work.
Speaker 2: Or if you're going in the water, go in the water,
Speaker 2: don't swim out, well, don't don't like head away from
Speaker 2: the like, because she swims out really far, hangs out
Speaker 2: for ages, like if that ladder was functioning, the shark
Speaker 2: will still get to her in time, Like the shark
Speaker 2: is nearby when she starts swimming away.
Speaker 4: Right, well, because what is it a quarter mile away
Speaker 4: or whatever?
Speaker 5: They can smell wow, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I don't know nothing travel too, I
Speaker 2: guess yeah, and Mark has done the measurements of the
Speaker 2: pen that pens not a quarter from how long thing.
Speaker 1: And and also too, is it considered what is what
Speaker 1: she did considered self sacrifice or just.
Speaker 2: Tried to get out? She tried to get out failed sacrifice,
Speaker 2: not even sacrifice.
Speaker 1: It's distraction, right, because it did work in the first one,
Speaker 1: I think, But in this one it's just it's like
Speaker 1: in Kong School Island when Shae Wigham tries to blow
Speaker 1: up that creature, but the creature's exactly the same. One
Speaker 1: of the greatest moments. Every time that scene happens, I
Speaker 1: am filled with so much joy, even though the guy dies,
Speaker 1: it's just funny, like that's one of the funniest kills
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. But yeah, I mean, yeah, she jumps
Speaker 1: in the water, she's bait and then she just.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go back. It's not exactly
Speaker 2: the same because that seeing Shay Wigham intended to die,
Speaker 2: he went out and failed.
Speaker 1: To take self sacrifice.
Speaker 2: So yes, so that was a successful sacrifice that just
Speaker 2: failed to impair the creature. Whereas what Susan's doing, she's
Speaker 2: not trying to sacrifice. She just dies anyway, So failed.
Speaker 1: Diversion gone awry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's self sacrifice. It
Speaker 4: does read as the film itself punishing.
Speaker 5: Her right where it's like exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: It's the script is punishing her audience.
Speaker 1: Do you know about the oh sorry, Jay, you go
Speaker 1: for it?
Speaker 2: Do you know about the original ending and why Saffron
Speaker 2: Borrows died Susan dies in this scene?
Speaker 4: I do know.
Speaker 2: So the original ending, she survived and they did a
Speaker 2: test audience, and the test audience were not happy that
Speaker 2: she survived. That's really funny, and so they reshot it
Speaker 2: without Saffron Borrows killing her off. And then she found
Speaker 2: out that she died at the premier, which is mean.
Speaker 4: So how did not How did they get her mind
Speaker 4: in the sea?
Speaker 1: My best guess of how this originally went down is
Speaker 1: that she got Yeah, so like he jumps on, he
Speaker 1: jumps in the water and gets on the shark's back
Speaker 1: and takes a shark ride mm hmm. And while you know,
Speaker 1: while he's distracting her, she climbed out, got the gun
Speaker 1: and then shot it through his leg and then into
Speaker 1: the thin and then she blew it.
Speaker 2: Up because the little inset shot of Preacher opening like
Speaker 2: his eye is that's a reshoot? That wasn't That's not
Speaker 2: like in the original.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, the little Jaws reference.
Speaker 2: How is that a little Jewels reference? Please? Like, I'm
Speaker 2: sure everything when Sarah was on everything's Jewels reference if
Speaker 2: you try had enough.
Speaker 4: So, yes, that is true. You're talking about Preacher shooting
Speaker 4: the area, right.
Speaker 2: I mean in this in this scene, there's like little
Speaker 2: Preacher opening an eye because he hears like going on
Speaker 2: and that's like, I assume that's assume the next scene
Speaker 2: he's like heroic music coming to rescue kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that just kidding. That is not the jawsa reference
Speaker 4: that I was thinking of. I was, I was, I
Speaker 4: got ahead of myself. I was thinking towards the end
Speaker 4: of the film when it shows him like close one
Speaker 4: eye to shoot, actually shoot the harpoon through the fin
Speaker 4: that's that's a Jaws reference. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, because I also heard the THELLJ took this
Speaker 7: movie only if he didn't die right, because he didn't
Speaker 7: want to be like his first because it's his first
Speaker 7: movie and he didn't want to be the like the
Speaker 7: black guy who dies in a horror.
Speaker 2: Movie that would explain every horror movie he's done, because
Speaker 2: he's yet to be killed.
Speaker 1: Halloween halle h lived and you think he dies, and
Speaker 1: then this one you think he dies but he lives,
Speaker 1: and then Mine hunters. So he's three for three. J Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's three for three in these movies.
Speaker 4: He's also in Halloween H two.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's Ronnie, the security guard who's a and
Speaker 1: I'm an aspiring writer and he spends most of the
Speaker 1: time talking about his erotic fiction to his wife on
Speaker 1: a phone.
Speaker 4: Is that also the one with bus?
Speaker 1: I just say that in a sentence. I love Halloween
Speaker 1: H two more? Now, guys, the fact that I could
Speaker 1: actually describe a character doing that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, is Buster rhymes in that to you? Or is
Speaker 4: that resurrection?
Speaker 1: That's resurrection?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I'll defend I'm not well versed in my
Speaker 4: in my Halloween.
Speaker 2: You're doing better than me. I've seen exactly two I
Speaker 2: have seen.
Speaker 5: I've seen three.
Speaker 2: I've seen three.
Speaker 4: I've seen four, but the three of the four are
Speaker 4: the new the David Gordon Green trilogy, so I've only
Speaker 4: seen the original and the Gordon Green ones.
Speaker 2: I've seen the original David Golgreen's first one, and then
Speaker 2: I watched Halloween two in preparation for Rennie Harden's The
Speaker 2: Strangest Chapter two. Because the films that take place in
Speaker 2: the hospital immediately after the first film, I'll watched this references.
Speaker 2: There were no references.
Speaker 1: That's a tough franchise because there's like seven timelines. There's
Speaker 1: the first one, then there's David Gordon Green movies, and
Speaker 1: then there's one in two and then Halloween h two
Speaker 1: zero in Resurrection and yeah and Rob Zombie, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Then there's the Rob Zombie and then there's one two.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if three's ever mentioned. One, two, four,
Speaker 1: five six where Jamie Lee k where Laurie Strode is killed.
Speaker 1: So there's four or five different timelines. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: That's why I like Chucky. He's like, we're just doing one,
Speaker 1: no matter what happened, We're sticking with it. If I
Speaker 1: directed a horror movie, if I did Jaws five, I
Speaker 1: would tie in all of them. I would go for
Speaker 1: sure Brodie's grandkid would be hunted in this one totally,
Speaker 1: and it would be by like they tested, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are a great white Chark. Was they get a tag
Speaker 1: of it, and they learned that it has the same
Speaker 1: DNA strand as the shark from the first four because
Speaker 1: they have that on order. So they're like, it's a
Speaker 1: blow feud. And I would call it Jaws blood feud,
Speaker 1: blood lines.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was thinking blood lines. That's
Speaker 4: where I was going with it. That's what you know
Speaker 4: what I would do. I would call it Jaws old chums,
Speaker 4: old chums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, old jump, So you're back for more, you know,
Speaker 1: just we've never met, you know, just yeah, like, does
Speaker 1: the shark just talk to me? Why not? I would
Speaker 1: keep everything you guys.
Speaker 4: You guys have the the the novelization of Jaws, the
Speaker 4: Revenge right Voodoo? Yes, yeah, voodoo shark.
Speaker 1: Stupid question, m J. How long did it take you
Speaker 1: watching Jaws to know that he was saying smile? Because
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew he was saying because I
Speaker 1: watched that movie young. I don't think I fully understood.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna smor like I never did you
Speaker 1: guys know that from the jump that it was smile because.
Speaker 2: It's always before I saw the film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: So I just watched it so young. I just he
Speaker 1: mumbles that does he not? Am I crazy?
Speaker 4: Is that a kind of a m There's a lot
Speaker 4: going on in the audio track, but I had the
Speaker 4: benefit of, like I saw it really young but didn't
Speaker 4: remember a lot of it. And then I had the
Speaker 4: twenty twelve Blu Ray that came out, which like just
Speaker 4: up the like the restoration on that is one of
Speaker 4: the best things I've ever seen. So the audio track
Speaker 4: is crispy in that one, so it's it's it's pretty
Speaker 4: clear in the Blu Ray release.
Speaker 1: I think, so smile you son of a Bitch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of, and so from yeah, okay good. I just
Speaker 1: had to ask that because I didn't know that line
Speaker 1: for years and that was like my favorite movie. I
Speaker 1: just but I also I don't remember the words of
Speaker 1: most songs. I just kind of like with the vibe.
Speaker 1: So like whenever I try to sing with my daughter,
Speaker 1: she's like, Dad, that's it's not it. I kind of
Speaker 1: wreck her vibe when I sing you know, Golden with
Speaker 1: her from K Pop Demon Hunters, I kind of wreck it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, but you.
Speaker 2: Know, so, MJ, what's your history with deeply se We
Speaker 2: kind of went straight into it. When did you first
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: We went straight, We went deep quick.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just related this story to my girlfriend
Speaker 4: when we were watching it the other night because she
Speaker 4: had never seen it before. She she loved it and
Speaker 4: the I mean, so my history with that movie is
Speaker 4: I was home for lunch from work and channel surfing
Speaker 4: and it was on FX, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know Yeah, wow, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. I was on my lunch break from
Speaker 4: work and I went home to eat and I was
Speaker 4: eating and I was just channel surfing and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: what's this. I saw Samuel L. Jackson and it just
Speaker 4: happened to be his death and I was like, that's
Speaker 4: the best thing I've ever seen. What is this? And
Speaker 4: so I did like the channel guide and found out
Speaker 4: it was deep Lucy. And then this is back when
Speaker 4: video stories were still a thing. So I went to
Speaker 4: the block but stre near my office and rented it
Speaker 4: and went to and watched it with my friends that
Speaker 4: weekend for the first time. So that was the first
Speaker 4: time I saw it, and then I didn't see it
Speaker 4: again until we did our Let's Jaws for a minute
Speaker 4: episode on it and I watched it with some friends
Speaker 4: of mine who had never seen it, and what a blast.
Speaker 4: It's It's a great movie to show to people who
Speaker 4: haven't seen it before because it's so there's so much
Speaker 4: wild stuff, and also once that, once it takes off,
Speaker 4: it just takes off and there's it's really fun. And
Speaker 4: for this, I borrowed the Arrow four K from my
Speaker 4: buddy who bought it in the last Arrow sale that
Speaker 4: they had, and I was talking to them about it
Speaker 4: and I was like, I think this is the second
Speaker 4: best chark movie, Like it's Jaw. For me, it's Jaws
Speaker 4: and then and then this. Now. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of people will say not a high bar to clear
Speaker 4: after Jaws, but I think this movie is like really
Speaker 4: fun and funny, and the set pieces are great. I
Speaker 4: think Greney Harland does a great job directing this. And
Speaker 4: I'm actually really stooped for Is it deep water?
Speaker 1: Is that the deep water?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean every Shark list should just start at two
Speaker 1: to make it interesting, because that's the interesting one. And
Speaker 1: if you put Jaws at number two, you're just kind
Speaker 1: of you're you're, you're, you're mucking up the you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're what is the word you're, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You're just messing with people when you do that.
Speaker 1: So I will say Deep Lucy is the most shark movie,
Speaker 1: features the most shark on screen that of any shark movie,
Speaker 1: because they're always on screen. Hnnie's like, I got sharks.
Speaker 1: I got three of them.
Speaker 4: They look great.
Speaker 1: I'm not in the ocean. I'm gonna tank in Mexico.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show that the heck out of these things.
Speaker 1: So it is the most and it has like it
Speaker 1: has the least amount of time of between attacks of
Speaker 1: the sharks. They're on screen a lot some good kill.
Speaker 1: So I would I think if we did a movie
Speaker 1: where it's like, what's the most shark movie of all
Speaker 1: time and lay down some rules because people bagage to
Speaker 1: make because it's the biggest shark.
Speaker 4: But I would.
Speaker 1: I would definitely say it's Deep Blue c So that
Speaker 1: makes me happy. This is gorgeous. That made me so
Speaker 1: happy that you liked it. Have you watched any other
Speaker 1: runny films? Like, what are you a runny person?
Speaker 4: I've seen I've seen Diehard too, I am how let
Speaker 4: me pull up his filmography here, I've not seen any
Speaker 4: of the strangers.
Speaker 5: That's fine, fine, Yeah, that's that's what I've heard.
Speaker 1: From the second one.
Speaker 4: Oh I love long kiss good night.
Speaker 2: Yes, as you should.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm rocks. Yeah, have you seen Cliff I've not
Speaker 4: seen Cliffhanger straight full. I yes, this is I have
Speaker 4: seen that because I've seen all the Nightmare on M streets.
Speaker 4: I have no clear memory of that one though.
Speaker 1: Mine Hunters.
Speaker 2: It's got like a pizza kill and.
Speaker 1: A shark killed his claws like a sharks fin he
Speaker 1: does as.
Speaker 4: I've not seen mind Hunters. But this cover, Yeah, this
Speaker 4: cover was on the wall of the Hollywood video I
Speaker 4: worked at, which was my first job out of high school.
Speaker 1: I worked at AMC Theater. That's like my best job ever.
Speaker 1: I know it's a different place, but I love that
Speaker 1: job so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I loved my video store jobs, although I will
Speaker 4: say the theaters were the big leagues to us, Like
Speaker 4: we all wanted to work at the theaters.
Speaker 1: I was an usher. I could tire fourteen tickets with
Speaker 1: one hand. Yeah for rass people live in the dream.
Speaker 1: I loved it, so wait the big leagues. I always
Speaker 1: wanted to work at a Blockbuster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that was. That was sort of
Speaker 4: It went kind of back and forth that way because
Speaker 4: all my friends that work at theaters wanted to work
Speaker 4: at the movie the movie store is because they got
Speaker 4: the free rentals.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to talk to people at a rental
Speaker 1: place like what are you reading?
Speaker 4: Yeah, looking back, I do think it was the better
Speaker 4: for like a budding Young's and a file I think
Speaker 4: video store is the move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point.
Speaker 1: That would have been nice to work at the I
Speaker 1: think I applied once and they wouldn't take me. Yep,
Speaker 1: I did a Hollywood video and Blockbuster I went. I
Speaker 1: went away every other every weekend in my dad's house,
Speaker 1: like you. And also the local movie theater near me
Speaker 1: was like that too, so they were like, yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: You got to be here every weekend if you want
Speaker 1: to work here. And I had to work at a
Speaker 1: burger king just letting everyone know, free burgers.
Speaker 4: All right, Jay, back to deeply see.
Speaker 2: So I never worked in a video still I want to.
Speaker 4: I have also always been fascinated by Cutthroat Island. I
Speaker 4: have not seen it. I've not seen it.
Speaker 2: It's better than its reputation. It's a massive flow, but
Speaker 2: it's still pretty good.
Speaker 4: I believe, I fully, fully buy that it's actually probably
Speaker 4: not a bad movie.
Speaker 2: It's you know, create of the Caribbean pirate movies. NOTORISSI
Speaker 2: did terribly and that just happens to be won. So
Speaker 2: no one, no one wanted to see pirate films. But
Speaker 2: it's a good it's a good time. Franklin Jeda is
Speaker 2: an excellent bad guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jay, there's several shots that are just incredible, that
Speaker 1: just looked gorgeous and the thing's incredible, Like at the
Speaker 1: end they fight on the mast of a boat and
Speaker 1: they're actually up on the mast of a boat and
Speaker 1: it looks like two actors are up on the mast
Speaker 1: of a boat and it just looks gracely. I love
Speaker 1: it so much, Like that's why I missing you already
Speaker 1: went a little crazy. I read for his wedding they
Speaker 1: had grafts and a hot air balloon. So he's extra.
Speaker 4: So was the theme around the world in eighty days.
Speaker 1: I have and they weren't married long. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we probably went a little too far on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like it was if it was. It was
Speaker 1: an article from ninety nine talking about how he kind
Speaker 1: of had to get rained in from this one because
Speaker 1: on this film that he had, they said they had
Speaker 1: him on tight leash for this one. Which was smart
Speaker 1: because it's a great movie and it didn't become Cuthlode Island.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he they was talking, I was wedding and
Speaker 1: there was like hot air balloons and wildlife and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it kind of seems like that's what
Speaker 4: The Stranger's Trilogy is is they kind of just let
Speaker 4: him off the leash. And oh no, not at all.
Speaker 1: They let him to east What where's Slovia Slovaka.
Speaker 2: Oh it's like Bolivia or yeah, they sent him to
Speaker 2: Olivia Estonia.
Speaker 1: I think something like that. And it gave him fifty
Speaker 1: two days to shoot three movies.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: And then he had like two three weeks of Rechi
Speaker 1: the first Yeah, but maybe like twenty days to reshoot.
Speaker 1: So all told, we had probably like seventy two days
Speaker 1: to show shoot three movies.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Slovakia, Slovakia. So yeah, the first go around was
Speaker 1: he shot. He legitimately shot three movies in fifty two days.
Speaker 4: That's nuts, man.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, most of his films post the two
Speaker 2: thousands have been made pretty quickly. He made the Legend
Speaker 2: of Legend of hees found out he was making it
Speaker 2: like three weeks before they started production and he just
Speaker 2: like real, rushed to it and made it a month
Speaker 2: and it's and that's a reasonable film. You know, it's incredible,
Speaker 2: but it's it's it's decent.
Speaker 4: I do have a funny Skip Trace story. I have
Speaker 4: not seen Skip Trace, but when when I was married
Speaker 4: and uh, maybe this led to my divorce, I would uh,
Speaker 4: I would We would be scrolling for things to watch
Speaker 4: on Netflite, Netflix, and I would say do you want
Speaker 4: to watch Skip Trace? Every single night because my ex
Speaker 4: wife could never remember what movie that was? And it
Speaker 4: became a little bit for me to see how it
Speaker 4: was close to a year before I finally had to
Speaker 4: break the news to her that, like, I've been doing
Speaker 4: this every day basically, that we've been trying to find
Speaker 4: something because they would go do you want to watch
Speaker 4: Skip Trace? And she would go, what's the heck? And
Speaker 4: I would say it's the movie with Jackie Chan and
Speaker 4: Johnny Knoxville and she would go, oh, no, not really.
Speaker 4: And it was that exact exchange at least every every
Speaker 4: other day for close to a year, and one of
Speaker 4: one of my favorite things I've maybe ever ever done.
Speaker 4: It was funny to me always that is.
Speaker 1: A very generic title.
Speaker 2: Skip trace.
Speaker 1: If you're not paying attention, it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: chill factor, or it's a it's like a ninety hard
Speaker 1: rain firestorm. Yeah, yes, but it's fun. Jay, we liked
Speaker 1: I like, I like. I like it more than you, right,
Speaker 1: skip trace.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's fine.
Speaker 1: If you just watched like the first big action set
Speaker 1: piece with the like the Russian nesting dolls, then I
Speaker 1: think you're good.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember it.
Speaker 1: And then the water scene water, Yeah, I remember the
Speaker 1: water I think is.
Speaker 4: The poster because they are Yeah, at least on Wikipedia,
Speaker 4: they're they're clearly soaking wet.
Speaker 1: On That one's good, and it's basically just a a
Speaker 1: travelogue for China. That was what it was meant to be.
Speaker 1: They went like they went, they were like all over
Speaker 1: the country and just filmed everywhere and made it look gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And then Renny Harlan stayed over there and made a
Speaker 1: couple of movies that are bonkers. But yeah, it's there's
Speaker 1: a good one. I think Knoxville gets stuck in a
Speaker 1: tube and then.
Speaker 2: Is upside down being held. I think like forced to
Speaker 2: get married, orn't they It's yeah, it's it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm just a Johnny Knoxville guy.
Speaker 2: I think you're just I do like.
Speaker 4: Johnny Knoxville quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Could he have been in this movie?
Speaker 2: Could he be cause of Blake.
Speaker 4: Preacher?
Speaker 1: He would have to be Preacher right or Skogs? Oh,
Speaker 1: you'd be Scogs for sure. Yeah, like the tensile strength,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, man, like I thought.
Speaker 4: I thought it was good. Yeah, I mean, who is
Speaker 4: Michael Rappaport If not Johnny Knoxville.
Speaker 1: Trust me because I'm trustworthy and he's not problematic. Now
Speaker 1: he's still like crushing it, like a lot of brain damage,
Speaker 1: but he's still doing like good stuff.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, he could be a good But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want him to die though, when at the end
Speaker 1: when he puts up the little thumbs up and then
Speaker 1: his his leg gets separated from him, I'd feel bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel I thought that wouldn't kill Knoxville.
Speaker 2: He's been through worse than eating him.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: He'll be better well.
Speaker 4: Although one of the Jackass guys did get bit by
Speaker 4: a shark. But during Shark.
Speaker 1: Week, Oh yeah, was that Pontius.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It was one of the new guys that they added
Speaker 4: for the fourth one. Go Poopies, I think is what
Speaker 4: he goes by. Yeah, that makes sense, but it Yeah,
Speaker 4: it bit him on the palm oddly enough and like
Speaker 4: severed a couple tendons and it took a couple of
Speaker 4: years of recovery and pet for him to get like
Speaker 4: full range of motion and stuff back. It was kind
Speaker 4: of intense worth it.
Speaker 1: M hmmm, where'd you get that from?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: I joined the Jackass here, Yeah.
Speaker 4: They did, and they it's it's in the show that
Speaker 4: they did too.
Speaker 1: Like, wait, your name is Poopies, right.
Speaker 2: At least out of the story.
Speaker 1: You know what's great about that, though, is he didn't
Speaker 1: give himself that name so ill and someone gave him
Speaker 1: that and he's just owned it because no one goes
Speaker 1: into like, like, hey, what's your name Poopies? Like no one,
Speaker 1: no one does that. So he had to. Someone had
Speaker 1: to give him that and then let it stick and
Speaker 1: he just went with it.
Speaker 4: So I does cage and hole you into you can
Speaker 4: only be part of Jackass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel bad if you're nicknames poopies. Like let's
Speaker 1: say you're like seventeen to twenty five, your nicknames poopies,
Speaker 1: and you go through like a huge jackass phase. But
Speaker 1: then you go to like business school and you start
Speaker 1: a business and you like open up a successful chain
Speaker 1: of like car washers, get married off kids. Everyone's still
Speaker 1: gonna just think your poopies. Like you have a nice house,
Speaker 1: no debt, and everybode's like all that poopies. He's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's just mowing his lawn, Like, I'll look at
Speaker 1: that idiot. You're always gonna be poopies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like Curly from the Three Stooges.
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be Curly no matter what he does.
Speaker 1: You guys got me one to Wat's Jackass.
Speaker 2: Now I have still never seen it.
Speaker 1: Never would you want?
Speaker 4: Would you recommend jack Jackass to Jay? And I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I will say that there is something
Speaker 4: about Jackass that bypasses all of my higher thinking and
Speaker 4: just activates this like primal lizard brain like laughter response
Speaker 4: in me. Like I love those movies a lot, but
Speaker 4: if someone doesn't, I also totally get it. There's just
Speaker 4: something about it that just is so silly and juvenile
Speaker 4: that like I can't help the smile at it. It
Speaker 4: just it's so it's so what it is right, Like,
Speaker 4: it does what it says on the tin so well
Speaker 4: that I feel like it's and then you have to
Speaker 4: reckon with it at some point in your life either way.
Speaker 1: And no one seems to really want to get hurt
Speaker 1: in it, which I like sometimes if they were really
Speaker 1: up for it. You can tell when these things like
Speaker 1: Bam starts crying, you know, like you know, Ryan don Ip,
Speaker 1: he starts crying. Like these guys are not They're not
Speaker 1: looking forward to a lot of it. I think that's
Speaker 1: what makes it kind of fun.
Speaker 4: Well, there's I will say, there's gross out stuff that
Speaker 4: happens that is not my favorite. I don't love that
Speaker 4: kind of like the really gross stuff that they do,
Speaker 4: but the the stunts and stuff really like it's it's
Speaker 4: this like America's Funniest home videos, uh, but the most
Speaker 4: extreme version of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4: It just gets I mean it's it's basically the man
Speaker 4: gets hit in football. It gets hit in the crotch
Speaker 4: by a football group from The Simpsons. Yeah, it's it's that.
Speaker 4: It's it is it is.
Speaker 1: That like idiocracy, Ouch my my balls.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I laugh when I say that, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I am the target audience I enjoy.
Speaker 1: It would be better Sean william Scott, Johnny Knoxhell or
Speaker 1: Tom Green ass Goggins.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't feel bad when Tom Green gets killed.
Speaker 1: I think Tom Williams Scott.
Speaker 2: And Cook and written for the Shocks.
Speaker 5: Sure, I think.
Speaker 4: Tom william Scott is the most neutral feeling I have. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I like him, But if I watched him, if I
Speaker 4: were to watch him get eaten by sharks, I wouldn't
Speaker 4: feel too bad about it either.
Speaker 1: If it was this goon character, then I'd be mortified. Sure,
Speaker 1: or stiff Lark.
Speaker 4: Is like that?
Speaker 1: Does that just happen'd?
Speaker 4: That'd be a heck of a way for that. That
Speaker 4: franchise and Legacy sequel where they have to fight a shark.
Speaker 1: American Island. Oh yeah, stupid, sorry, not you, the American Island.
Speaker 4: American Pilon, American pilot, yep, oh, American Pilot.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's right though, American Piland.
Speaker 2: This, oh man, that's one of the straights TV sequels.
Speaker 1: Yes, are in like definitely yea. It was like it
Speaker 1: made an O three and everyone wears those.
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah, wring her T shirts, m is back, and
Speaker 2: nobody else.
Speaker 1: A lot of gel yeah mmhmm, well, okay, John Knox
Speaker 1: so I think would be my favorite still mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: I think he's the most charismatic out of the ones
Speaker 4: that you named. For sure, which.
Speaker 1: Character would be deep blue Sea character would do the
Speaker 1: best on Jackass? Like what if like doctor Susan McAllister
Speaker 1: was in a giant shopping card.
Speaker 2: I mean if cast is the most physically, he's the
Speaker 2: most physical, he's the most like active, but he also
Speaker 2: can't stay standing up. I don't know how He's always
Speaker 2: falling over, but that means it's like resilient. He doesn't
Speaker 2: to bruise easily.
Speaker 4: I mean that is kind of the plot of the
Speaker 4: Jackass movies. If if you were a pinpoint of guys
Speaker 4: are standing up and now they're not standing up.
Speaker 2: I think, uh, Brenda has like the lower is the
Speaker 2: most up for anything, the most kind of game for
Speaker 2: for a challenge.
Speaker 1: She's the party captain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 1: So Brenda.
Speaker 2: I think if I think Brenda and Castro, you go
Speaker 2: to of.
Speaker 1: All the character as well, getting hit by like a
Speaker 1: giant hand. I think it would be Brenda.
Speaker 2: M hmmm, I mean giant. How giant is this hand?
Speaker 4: It's pretty big?
Speaker 1: Like did you ever see that?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 4: Might be the funniest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll after this episode. I will send it to
Speaker 1: you and it's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I guess.
Speaker 1: Carter could be a former skateboarder who joined the crew
Speaker 1: after prison.
Speaker 4: Carter has or surfer.
Speaker 1: Carter has surfer and oh yeah, he's a surfer that
Speaker 1: occasionally joins because you have them, like you have Tony
Speaker 1: Hawk and all the meeting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony Hawk, and like Matt Hoffman pop up every
Speaker 4: now and then, yeah, he's he's like, it's like Kelly
Speaker 4: Slater and Carter.
Speaker 1: Wait, oh yeah, Carter Blake. And then you could have
Speaker 1: Slater Trent from Deep Blue cy two and there as
Speaker 1: well have a bunch of Slaters.
Speaker 2: We're gonna guess m J. You haven't seen the Deep seque,
Speaker 2: the Deep Blue sequels, please do to his fun Three
Speaker 2: is good?
Speaker 4: Really? Which one is the found footage one?
Speaker 2: What? None of them?
Speaker 4: None of them? None of think.
Speaker 2: So there's a new found footage film coming out directed
Speaker 2: by Form I guess the show Maria Lewis, which is
Speaker 2: I think it's cooled untitled shark movie. It's coming out
Speaker 2: relatively soon. Uh well, that's that's found footage, so we're
Speaker 2: looking forward to that one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love a found footage movie.
Speaker 1: Have there has there benefit footage shark film?
Speaker 4: Open Water technically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're just sitting in the right they're not
Speaker 1: already filming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not filming.
Speaker 1: Them, since that'd be amazing if they were just doing
Speaker 1: like a young Are they okay?
Speaker 4: At least at the beginning. At least at the beginning.
Speaker 4: The beginning is found footage for sure.
Speaker 1: And then I guess that's kind of hard because it's underwater.
Speaker 1: So then you have a camera. I guess you could
Speaker 1: be on a boat and you're attacked by a large shark.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. I swear one of these was found footage.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's listen, this is good.
Speaker 1: It's about it's about a billionaire trying to make bull
Speaker 1: sharks so he can take limitless juice to prevent an
Speaker 1: AI apocalypse.
Speaker 2: Apparently Open Water three.
Speaker 4: Open Water three, Cage dive.
Speaker 2: Apparently I found fish and we haven't covered that one
Speaker 2: yet on the show. I didn't like from if I
Speaker 2: kind of Nike ste franchise after the first one.
Speaker 1: But we'll get in terms of sacrifices. Is this like,
Speaker 1: this isn't up there with Alien three, It's not up
Speaker 1: there with exorcists like Quiet Place, No, like Bill. You
Speaker 1: know what, though, I would say this is the Billy
Speaker 1: of sacrifices because Billy stays behind to fight the youcher,
Speaker 1: but the yulcher probably just blew him up. And I
Speaker 1: think the most amount of time that the oucher needed
Speaker 1: was to skin him. So it's like, I'm gonna sacrifice
Speaker 1: myself by standing on this log, getting killed and then
Speaker 1: getting skinned afterwards.
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: From yeah, I mean at.
Speaker 4: Least from the first Predator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first one. And Vasquez is good. It even
Speaker 1: becomes a vampire. But I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess it's not even up there with great sacrifice
Speaker 1: because it wasn't meant to be. It was just a reason.
Speaker 4: Well, because it's not a sacrifice. It's like I said,
Speaker 4: it's it's punishment like it' it's it's it's a tonement.
Speaker 4: It is a sacrifice. It's a blood sacrifice more than
Speaker 4: it is a self sacrifice.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to blame Susan entirely for the sacrifice
Speaker 2: or the distraction not working, because I feel like she's
Speaker 2: trying to distract the shark to give Carter a chance
Speaker 2: to shoot her. Because Carter can't see the sharks. It's
Speaker 2: morectly made a hole in the fence underwater by ramming
Speaker 2: into it despite not having a scuttle, and so Susan
Speaker 2: distracts it. It turns around, it's swinging around the surface,
Speaker 2: and Carter doesn't shoot it. He can now see the shark.
Speaker 2: He is close enough to get a shot. I feel
Speaker 2: like if he shot it in a way that it
Speaker 2: would get it in the body, that would distract it again,
Speaker 2: and Susan might be able to get out if the
Speaker 2: wrong thing, Yeah, was intact. And then they blow the shop.
Speaker 4: I do like that fake out of like, oh, maybe
Speaker 4: she'll get out, and then the the rung of the
Speaker 4: ladder breaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like and then she goes this was
Speaker 1: a terrible plan.
Speaker 4: For Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if that wrong doesn't break, the next
Speaker 2: rung is pretty pretty far up from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean bait.
Speaker 1: Though she was bait. I guess she stopped the fence
Speaker 1: from being further destroyed, and then that gave time for Preacher.
Speaker 4: Good yeah, good, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That fence kind.
Speaker 1: Of that's like an all time OOP sacrifice where it's like,
Speaker 1: well that backfires. There aren't too many of those in cinema,
Speaker 1: is there?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean Shae Wagham one is yea, that's a good shout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one so much. I wouldn't mind going down like that,
Speaker 1: Like I re like what happened? What happened to Mark Well,
Speaker 1: he opened up a bunch of grenades thinking that he
Speaker 1: would lure a monster to eat him and then blow
Speaker 1: up the monster's head and said the monster just spun
Speaker 1: around and hit him with his tail. Send him Karini
Speaker 1: about a quarter mile into the rock face and the face.
Speaker 2: I feel like what Susan's doing is more similar to
Speaker 2: Ellis and die Hard, where he goes into make a
Speaker 2: deal and the guys.
Speaker 4: Shark Booby, I'm your white Knight. Yeah, you nailed it.
Speaker 1: That's it. This is the Ellis sacrifice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah. She she goes into bargain
Speaker 4: and then it just does not work. Spectacular does not work, as.
Speaker 1: She says, it's still a beast, but these things understand
Speaker 1: cameras and hurting people, so I don't think they're creatures anymore.
Speaker 4: Well, I also think that is a like I mean,
Speaker 4: I actually think it's kind of a good character beat
Speaker 4: in the sense of her not like wanting to have
Speaker 4: control over nature, because I think that's a severe underestimation
Speaker 4: of animals, Like whoa, animals are. Animals are pretty smart.
Speaker 4: Like there you're going into the animal's habitat still right
Speaker 4: where she's like, oh, it's still just an animal. It's like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's an animal that's known to hurt people, like
Speaker 4: not often, but like in the grand scheme of people
Speaker 4: who get hurt by animals or animals that hurt people,
Speaker 4: it's it's in the top ten, right, Like it's people
Speaker 4: talk about at least in the conversation, the cultural the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not hungry, it's well fed. It's just eaten.
Speaker 2: I mean, this shark is the shark that ate Skokins
Speaker 2: and janis recent and part of eight Stellen's arm And
Speaker 2: I think this is the one that ate Sam Jackson
Speaker 2: as well, well like half of him. So this is like,
Speaker 2: it's not it's not being driven by hunger. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: talked to when we had Jack on. We talked to
Speaker 2: like how much can they can they eat? And they
Speaker 2: apply can eat a lot before going for like a
Speaker 2: big trip in the ocean, which this shark is about
Speaker 2: to do. So maybe it is is car bloading for that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that can't be what's driving it. I meant. I meant.
Speaker 2: One of the things I've forgot to ask him was
Speaker 2: when it sniffs the blood, the eyes go from white
Speaker 2: to black, which happens in movies. Does that happen in
Speaker 2: real life? Happens in this? Happens in Finding Me? I no,
Speaker 2: is that true?
Speaker 4: Yeah? There's videos you can see your shirks, like I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's like specifically them smelling stuff, but
Speaker 4: like there's a video of this, I think it's a
Speaker 4: tiger shark coming up to this diver and the diver
Speaker 4: just kind of puts its hand on the snout of
Speaker 4: the shark and redirects it. But you watch its eyes
Speaker 4: roll over happens. Yeah, Yeah, it's like that is I
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with sharks. I am not scared
Speaker 4: of sharks. I would go diving with sharks, but that
Speaker 4: video really scares me, Like it just seems really irresponsible
Speaker 4: on the part of the diver potentially to be doing that,
Speaker 4: but you know, they didn't get eaten, so what do
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 2: And then when when the shark gets close to Susan,
Speaker 2: the eyes go from black to white again, which I
Speaker 2: hadn't spired before. This is the first time of noticing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some movie roles you know what, a you know what,
Speaker 1: an extra snack falls out of the landing machine. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what this is.
Speaker 4: So this shark.
Speaker 2: Cop has jumped in as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, you don't expect double prizes, so it's
Speaker 1: already eaten everybody. And then Susan jumps in the water
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh cool. And then Carter jumps and
Speaker 1: he's like all right, great, like this is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's coming on, Malhouse.
Speaker 1: I would be car be carbo loaded for this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use that now, Jay, I'm gonna load up on.
Speaker 4: Some uh carbo loaded is really funny, carbo loaded on.
Speaker 2: Some Oh yeah, it just sucks like poor Susan.
Speaker 1: It's just I think the movie did better with her
Speaker 1: by letting LLL save the day, because you know, I
Speaker 1: worked in the theater and I listen to people cheer
Speaker 1: for them, so it's cynical, and they didn't tell her,
Speaker 1: and the notes to reshoot her were probably legitimately were
Speaker 1: not Probably they were legitimately like misogynists because they were
Speaker 1: like Kolo, they were really against that. And so but
Speaker 1: I still think, you know, if no one ever knew this,
Speaker 1: that was probably the right idea. If we're I'm talking
Speaker 1: cynically with money. I mean, I guess she could have,
Speaker 1: but I think people wanted to see preacher blow it up,
Speaker 1: not her, even though that's the thing she created.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel about that.
Speaker 2: That'd be a different meaning behind it if if she
Speaker 2: because she'd be blowing up her in creation. But in
Speaker 2: this sense, her own creation is killing her, which I
Speaker 2: think means more.
Speaker 5: Frankensign Frank exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: You mess with it, ate her?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah you yeah, you mess with the bullshark.
Speaker 4: You get the horns.
Speaker 2: I like it, Yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Horns.
Speaker 1: Man, I want to start. I wish I would want
Speaker 1: to a college because you could just like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because the macOS in this right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they look the macOS. Jeeth mess with the maker,
Speaker 1: mess with the makos, you get.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's not a same.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a I don't know if this is
Speaker 4: just regional now that I think about it. There was
Speaker 4: a like a body shop in my hometown called Maco,
Speaker 4: but it was m A a c O. And there.
Speaker 4: Their catchphrase was, oh, better get Maco to like repaint
Speaker 4: your car or fix your own accident damage.
Speaker 2: Mess with the Maco. You get bodied.
Speaker 4: Oh there you go, there you go. Uh oh, better
Speaker 4: get Maco.
Speaker 1: Better get Maco. Uh oh, it's gonna eat meat. Wait,
Speaker 1: it's a genetically modified makeo.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: And I guess it didn't kill the two guys that well,
Speaker 1: I mean, Carter was a shark wrangler wanted him. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Gota.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this movie is great.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also so it we only see two people
Speaker 4: successfully kill the sharks in this movie, right, It's just
Speaker 4: Preacher and and Susan. Yeah, so it it had to
Speaker 4: be one of them.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you're right, Carter wouldn't have It wouldn't
Speaker 1: have felt right if Carter did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's why he even That's why he even is.
Speaker 4: He tells Susan, when I shoot the shark, you need
Speaker 4: to touch the the the the end of the thing
Speaker 4: to the battery, and then we watch Preacher just do
Speaker 4: it by himself. So why does he need the help
Speaker 4: of Susan to do it?
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: He was incapacitated. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a
Speaker 2: couple Preachers done this before. I don't this isn't his
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, blowing up the shark, that's that is true.
Speaker 1: I wish I could say that, like, Mark, do you
Speaker 1: know how to blow this up? Yeah? I'm blown up sharks?
Speaker 1: Like what, it's another life. Yeah you've blown up sharks before, yes,
Speaker 1: several times? Like why, it's a long story. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think this is the most efficient eating of a
Speaker 2: person we see in this film as well. Yes, efficient fish? Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah absolutely, because like the shark goes from attacking here,
Speaker 2: it's swallowing her in a matter of seconds and does
Speaker 2: not hang around.
Speaker 4: I really like the little move it does with its
Speaker 4: head to catch the top half of her. Yeah. I
Speaker 4: think that's great.
Speaker 1: I know it's nuts. This is the fastest VFX of
Speaker 1: the movie, but I think it looks good. It's probably
Speaker 1: some of the better VFX in the film. I don't
Speaker 1: think that her like when his eyes crank in and
Speaker 1: goes after that looks good compared compared to you know,
Speaker 1: Sam Jackson's death in a couple of the other shots.
Speaker 2: So look, you know when people complain about the VFX
Speaker 2: in this film, and this isn't what they're talking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, if this came out today in a big
Speaker 2: bob bust, he'd be like, that's a little that's a
Speaker 2: bit rugby. But for I think that's twenty seven years old.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's possible, and it's a lot
Speaker 2: better than some of the other films we covered on
Speaker 2: this show.
Speaker 1: If this is Quinn, that thing would just be swallowing
Speaker 1: him for like three minutes while he screamed yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a horrifying death.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the one of the one of Cinema's best,
Speaker 4: Cinema's best stats.
Speaker 1: This isn't one of those movies. For that, I think
Speaker 1: Janet gets it. Janice gets it the worst, and her
Speaker 1: character is pregnant in the movie. I'm glad they took
Speaker 1: that out. Like that's the most brutal, but that's still
Speaker 1: pretty quick.
Speaker 2: Stones is pretty brutal. Yeah, Selens is something else.
Speaker 1: I guess he's just not in the shark's mouth and
Speaker 1: he's used as a battering ram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, deathout fucking hours. He's dying for a while.
Speaker 1: That scene does not get enough credit, you know, justify.
Speaker 1: I think sam Jackson's death has kept this movie in
Speaker 1: the press, helped keep it in the press for for
Speaker 1: many years now. But I think Jim's is the highlight.
Speaker 1: Jim's is the most renny, because Renny killing people really hard.
Speaker 4: You know what. To that point, I will say when
Speaker 4: I saw this movie to people these days, I do
Speaker 4: say that a shark throws a man and who's on
Speaker 4: ajourney into a window rather than than it has the Samuel.
Speaker 1: Jackson death while his girlfriend looks on in agony as
Speaker 1: he looks around the eye. Yeah, would it have been
Speaker 1: better if they just kept him alive? And when they
Speaker 1: went in there later he was still floating around breathing.
Speaker 2: That would be funny. And then he's just back in
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then he's one arm. Yeah. He then becomes
Speaker 4: the ash of uh deep.
Speaker 2: Oh, he like straps the spa gunto his arms.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would watch that, I would. I would. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it would be great.
Speaker 1: If he tried to like get He had that entire
Speaker 1: montage of gearing up, which Jay loves a gearing up
Speaker 1: montage and then he goes to fight the shark and
Speaker 1: the shark just Obliteratesblis. But it actually would because this
Speaker 1: shark would destroy you, no problem. So that'd be that'd
Speaker 1: be great. Just another fake out. So after Sam Jackson's death,
Speaker 1: really quick, we find him total gear up scene. He
Speaker 1: looks like just the ultimate badass, and then he goes
Speaker 1: down to fight him and then just gets killed. I
Speaker 1: mean to be a waste of time, but I would
Speaker 1: love it. I would would be a great scene.
Speaker 2: I would like that.
Speaker 4: I would also like that. Yeah, yeah, it'd be it'd
Speaker 4: be good. Are you guys doing the sequels in the
Speaker 4: same format or are you just doing do you want one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're already done. This is our second go round.
Speaker 2: One we've done. We've done two and three once already
Speaker 2: and we're gonna do them again.
Speaker 1: We're going down Okay, Yeah, you gotta watch them because yeah,
Speaker 1: just like these films. I hated to it first. I know,
Speaker 1: in the beginning episodes back in twenty twenty, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing Deep Bluesy too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we bring up two and market just gets sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I watched it again and I just
Speaker 1: fell in love with it, like I genuinely love the movie.
Speaker 2: Now it's okay because there's only we do DVD chapters
Speaker 2: and there's ten for two and eleven for three. So
Speaker 2: by the time we got to like four or five
Speaker 2: chapters in Mark say, I love this film. So it
Speaker 2: it's you can listen to podcasting Stockholm Syndrome happen just
Speaker 2: episode of the episode. Mark slowly falling in love with
Speaker 2: this film because we're trapped with it for two and
Speaker 2: a half months.
Speaker 4: I what are unique? What a unique position to be in?
Speaker 4: And yet I fully relate where you're not. I mean
Speaker 4: not that I needed that with Jaws, and we only
Speaker 4: do single, single episodes, but I have noticed, and I
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys have noticed this too, You're
Speaker 4: a love and appreciation for other Shark films goes up
Speaker 4: by doing these podcasts where it's like I went, by
Speaker 4: the time we got to Santa Jaws.
Speaker 2: Like, what a film?
Speaker 4: What a film? What film?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: It's great, it is a it is a holiday staple
Speaker 4: in my household. Now you know, it's shameless shameless self promotion.
Speaker 4: We interviewed the director.
Speaker 2: Of that nice mm hmmm, yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yep, there's there's so many that are uneven. So when
Speaker 1: you watch one that's fun and spirited and not Mega
Speaker 1: Python Verse Gatoroid that has some fool ideas, you you
Speaker 1: do love them, like you just fall for them, because
Speaker 1: like Sharks and is that for me where I've just
Speaker 1: I just adore that movie because it's Miss Shock, it's
Speaker 1: oh Shark in Venice whoops, it's yeah, and Ghost Shock, Oh.
Speaker 4: Go, Shark's great works.
Speaker 1: Like you just love like it's low budget, it's silly,
Speaker 1: but it just I, I don't know, it's fun. It's
Speaker 1: like watching a Hallmark Christmas movie. Most of them make
Speaker 1: you want to just crawl into a hole. But occasionally
Speaker 1: there's one where they don't go to Vermont and the
Speaker 1: lawyer doesn't move to Vermont to live with a divorce
Speaker 1: tree farmer, that you're like, I like that one. So
Speaker 1: I think with these Shark movies, when there's a fun one,
Speaker 1: you really do kind of bond with it. I love
Speaker 1: that about it. And there's some uneven, but so many
Speaker 1: of it like Jaws Revenge has personality, Jaws three has personality.
Speaker 1: Like I think, even if they're bad, they have a
Speaker 1: fun personality to them.
Speaker 4: Yep, I agree. Well, the the MJ ranking of the
Speaker 4: Jaw sequels is four three two because I think two
Speaker 4: doesn't have a personality.
Speaker 1: Oh I just you know, two sits back with me.
Speaker 1: Two is one of my favorites because of the kids
Speaker 1: in it. Like I watched it when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and so I watched it more than Jaws. Like I
Speaker 1: know Jaws as kids, but this one, these kids were
Speaker 1: on boats and there in the catamaran.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, it's a Friday of the thirteenth
Speaker 4: movie with a shark.
Speaker 1: Right right, And I guess I just felt and with
Speaker 1: the occlusion of the little guys, not just like the
Speaker 1: high schoolers, I felt more. I don't know, it felt
Speaker 1: more like that could be me. And I know Jaws
Speaker 1: has that moment too, but that's I guess that's why
Speaker 1: I kind of connected with that one. And then Jaws four.
Speaker 1: I always just went this is crazy, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is nuts, And even as a kid, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is nuts, and so I kind of loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, Jaws is clearly the best and one of
Speaker 1: my It is my favorite film deeply see is my
Speaker 1: favorite movie. And depending on the day. It's like sharkton
Speaker 1: Venice is like my favorite flick, but yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's interesting. And then three is that that
Speaker 1: lady who's what she's skiing and she looks behind her
Speaker 1: and the shark is behind her. It's like one of
Speaker 1: my all time favorite movie shots. Yeah, it's great. And
Speaker 1: the other three favor Hay three three is yeah, three
Speaker 1: is bad. There's almost forty minutes spend on another dead shark,
Speaker 1: like a shark in a pool.
Speaker 2: Yep. Three is just sad. And then there's a shark
Speaker 2: in a in a lagoon where there's twenty five water
Speaker 2: skis or in the water and it eats none of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was that dude hole. I love that yep.
Speaker 1: And then it takes about forty five minutes to blow
Speaker 1: up the gap the glass.
Speaker 4: Yes, the slow, super slow shark.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a guy who's like doing underwater
Speaker 1: welding but still smoking a cigarette. Like there's a guy
Speaker 1: who's just that kind of a character. It's not happening,
Speaker 1: but I could see it in my head. And then
Speaker 1: he gets eat It was like.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't question it. You could put anything in jows
Speaker 4: three and I would. I would not question.
Speaker 1: It is that guy smoking a cigarette in the water, Like,
Speaker 1: we got bigger problems than that, you know.
Speaker 2: Aless people get stuck in the underwater. Oh yeah, viewing
Speaker 2: area and they'll just get out. Yep, they would just
Speaker 2: they'll just get out. What was this for?
Speaker 1: Okay? Great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like them.
Speaker 4: You know, need a blind spot for boats, Sarah and I.
Speaker 2: Cruel Joe's Fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We have decided that the the final episode of Let's
Speaker 4: shows for a moment minute, whenever that will be, we
Speaker 4: don't have an end date set, but whenever that happens,
Speaker 4: the final episode will be Cruel Jaws. The the parting
Speaker 4: thoughts we have decided to leave with the audiences is
Speaker 4: going to be Cruel Jawsday.
Speaker 2: Well, you have a treat ahead of your eventually.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we've never seen it, and it's the number
Speaker 4: one question we get asked is like, did you guys
Speaker 4: do Cruel Jaws when you did the sequels? And we
Speaker 4: always like to the point where it's become a little
Speaker 4: bit of a meme on the show. So we decided,
Speaker 4: like when the show, when we decide to sunset the show,
Speaker 4: Cruel Jaws will be the finale ever.
Speaker 2: Our final film B Mark Mania six seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it Deep Blue C seven Okay, great,
Speaker 1: So Cruel this till twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've started doing the Friday the Thirteenth films, only
Speaker 2: talking about the aquatic scenes but only releasing them on
Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth, which has put us up to twenty
Speaker 2: thirty two. I think as the.
Speaker 4: Sketch amazing, amazing. Are you guys also going to branch
Speaker 4: out and do the just the scene from Zombie?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, we haven't done that one yet.
Speaker 2: No, that will be. It's on the list at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I've well, so Friday the thirteenth two thousand and
Speaker 2: one remake we would cover in May of twenty thirty
Speaker 2: three and June of twenty thirty three would be our
Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty sixth episode. So I'm saving Shark
Speaker 2: Exocist for that one because that seems to fit nicely.
Speaker 2: That's as far as I'm planning your head so far.
Speaker 2: But Cruel Jeels won't be in your top four? What
Speaker 2: would be in your top four shark films? M Jay?
Speaker 4: Well, did did Sarah tell you guys about Shark Exorcist?
Speaker 2: No, that's been on our We've got a guy called
Speaker 2: Kevin Culp whose lockdown mission was to watch Everyark film
Speaker 2: and he's ranked them, and Shark exists bottom of his list.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that is one n correct. That is one of
Speaker 4: the worst films I've ever seen. So yeah, so good
Speaker 4: luck in godspeed gents. I am. I look forward to
Speaker 4: that episode. But who boy, it'll be nice just to
Speaker 4: know someone else's another podcast has had to go through that.
Speaker 2: Well. This is episode two seventy eight, so we've got
Speaker 2: a long way to go before six x.
Speaker 4: X Top four Shark films. Jaws, I mean, okay, so
Speaker 4: are we leaving Jaws out of it?
Speaker 2: We've We've allowed most people to most people have included it. Okay,
Speaker 2: not everyone, but most people.
Speaker 4: I just I feel like my problem is like I've
Speaker 4: turned Jaws into a lifestyle at this point as well.
Speaker 4: But it feels like cheating putting it on this at
Speaker 4: this point. But yeah, Jaws deeply c I think Santa Jaws.
Speaker 4: And then have you guys done?
Speaker 5: Wi Shark not yet?
Speaker 4: Great?
Speaker 1: Okay, Shark it is better than Satan Shark extorsist, Shark.
Speaker 4: Shark exocist, yes, by a by a lot.
Speaker 2: You are the first person to pick shark. Really, no
Speaker 2: one else put it on the.
Speaker 1: List one point.
Speaker 4: I think that is great.
Speaker 2: You're the third person to pick Santa Joe's, which feels low. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Sarah was was the second person. Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 2: she also had but she had jos and DeepC as
Speaker 2: one and two, Saints Jiles numberfore and the Reef was
Speaker 2: her number three. She was the first person to pick the.
Speaker 4: Reef brilliant one.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't like it, it's too serious.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 4: A lot of these run together for me, so we
Speaker 4: had a very like serious conversation about the ethics of
Speaker 4: portraying like true stories, and uh yeah, that wasn't my
Speaker 4: favorite because of that.
Speaker 1: That's why I like Blue Sea. No, like, no shark
Speaker 1: fanatic can blame this or anything, because it's just like
Speaker 1: the model, like they genetically modified these things and it's
Speaker 1: just silly and fun. So it's like the sharks aren't
Speaker 1: even the villains in this movie. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why it works well as opposed to, like you said,
Speaker 1: like the more realistic ones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say, uh, if if the meg movies
Speaker 4: could be more like the last twenty minutes of the
Speaker 4: second one for their entire runtimes, those would be in
Speaker 4: the conversation, but say, are mostly people mostly just people talking,
Speaker 4: And then the last twenty minutes of the second one
Speaker 4: is like, sit them up, your perfection as far as
Speaker 4: I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not meg wan Ers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we prefer me two. Yeah, and jet skis and
Speaker 2: an octopus.
Speaker 1: And stam swimming.
Speaker 4: Yeah in the trench he just.
Speaker 5: Takes yeah oxygen y.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, that's not even Yeah.
Speaker 4: If they could make a Meg three, that's just the
Speaker 4: entire fun island scene from the end of MEG two,
Speaker 4: that would be in my top four. But there's too
Speaker 4: much not fun island stuff happening in the Meg two
Speaker 4: for me to have really loved it.
Speaker 2: This is what no one has pick the Make to
Speaker 2: six people have picked.
Speaker 1: The mag I would be like, Statham, do you want
Speaker 1: an island? Jack, Yeah, I'll take an island, And I'll
Speaker 1: be like, okay, cool. So let's just film Meg three
Speaker 1: there where you and your family can hang out on
Speaker 1: this island and you're just trapped by sharks and you
Speaker 1: have to get chased by a jet ski by them
Speaker 1: all day and try to figure out how to survive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and terrorist attack.
Speaker 4: Hm, I would watch. Yeah. Jack was our guest on
Speaker 4: our meg Extravaganza. We did one end two as well
Speaker 4: as a episode.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, he picked the mega's number three and
Speaker 2: then Shark Attack three Megala done as number before. He's
Speaker 2: a parody of himself. Yes, yeah, Oh, you gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta watch the Shark Attack films. MJ. You gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta kept up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know the I know the line
Speaker 4: from Shark Tack three Megaladon, but.
Speaker 2: He has the same plot as Deep. It's like someone
Speaker 2: trying to breathing sharks to kill cancer.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 2: It's just not the main plot of the film. It's
Speaker 2: just in there a little bit.
Speaker 4: It's like, uh, it's like the Locusts and Jurassic World Dominion.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, do they ever come back?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: I don't mention them in in the Rebirth.
Speaker 3: Why would they No?
Speaker 5: No, I did not see Rebirth a little the look
Speaker 5: of something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like Rebirth quite a bit. There's a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff and lots of dinosaurs. Well, I mean Tressey
Speaker 2: Park is my favorite film. I love that franchise even
Speaker 2: I love it and hate it, but love it more.
Speaker 2: I can figure it a lot of flaws.
Speaker 1: In rebirths of dinosaurs are just dinosaurs.
Speaker 2: Mostly there's also mutant dinosaurs that are just dinosaurs but shouldn't.
Speaker 1: But in the third film or I mean, I love film.
Speaker 4: I I I'm a really big Gareth Edwards fan, So yeah,
Speaker 4: create a Rocks.
Speaker 2: It's it's visually the same as his Godzilla.
Speaker 5: Okay, so very similar.
Speaker 2: In some s.
Speaker 4: I like that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said no time to shoot this one, like
Speaker 1: for big budget like not Renny clear shots eight of them,
Speaker 1: but for a giant movie like this, I think they
Speaker 1: didn't have much time. So I mean based on what
Speaker 1: they have, it's you know, all the actors want to
Speaker 1: be there.
Speaker 4: Hey, there is a question if you okay, you guys
Speaker 4: are given the opportunity to give Rennie his big franchise
Speaker 4: come back, what what do you give him? Like, what
Speaker 4: blockbuster franchise do you give him?
Speaker 2: Lucy four? Yeah, just because I want the fourth one.
Speaker 2: Give him a franchise for any franchise, not The Strangers,
Speaker 2: No thank you.
Speaker 1: I would have him do a John Wick movie, but
Speaker 1: with like Mark Decostus's character, and with with with the
Speaker 1: two guys from who survived John Wick three because John
Speaker 1: Wick likes them, so.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the guys from Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah them, and then he would and
Speaker 1: then Mark Dekascus would be around, and then it would
Speaker 1: just be them being assassins killing people in the museum
Speaker 1: with sharks.
Speaker 2: I want to give him an alien film. Let's see
Speaker 2: there it is there, it is. He hasn't has he
Speaker 2: He hasn't been to space. I think we have not
Speaker 2: had ever any space film.
Speaker 1: Alien Cliffhanger, Alien Predator.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't want to take that away
Speaker 2: from Dan trachtenbergs to share your stuff with with He
Speaker 2: seems to have found his little home there were Predator,
Speaker 2: whereas Alien is a free for all winters. Who wants
Speaker 2: who wants the next one? Who? Anyone?
Speaker 4: He takes us.
Speaker 1: So this is what we need, really good script? Right
Speaker 1: the director drops out and they're like, crap, we got
Speaker 1: we got this place in pine Wood in London. We
Speaker 1: have Stan Whiston, creature effects, we have actors, we need
Speaker 1: a director. And then they call Renny and it's like
Speaker 1: the wheels are in motion. Script is good, the monsters
Speaker 1: are good, and then he just knocks it out the Park.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way I see it going. Like, remember
Speaker 1: how Ron Howard filled in for solo. That's how we
Speaker 1: could do it.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. We want to use Is that an endorsement?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't hate son if I'd like but
Speaker 2: I would have liked it more if Lord and Miller
Speaker 2: had been kept talking me.
Speaker 1: I love Ron Howard, but you know, but he's I
Speaker 1: was like, just call Ron, he'll take care of it.
Speaker 1: Like so it's like.
Speaker 2: He'll bring his brother along, He'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And they're like, so they call Ron first for the
Speaker 1: Alien movies, like I'm busy, I'm on, I'm on the studio.
Speaker 1: And then they're like, we got Paul Opa Sanderson. He's busy,
Speaker 1: Like who's next? And then they go like ten down
Speaker 1: and then they get to Rennie.
Speaker 4: Okay, is the follow up question? Is Rennie before or after?
Speaker 1: Before?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Before? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Before?
Speaker 1: Before ouldn't be used if there was like a German
Speaker 1: tax loophole and they needed to write, direct, and produce
Speaker 1: a movie within a like a calendar year and get
Speaker 1: it released so that a bunch of rich German people
Speaker 1: can not get taxed on the movie, the money that
Speaker 1: they gave to the production, and then they get they
Speaker 1: get it right after after selling international rights, and then
Speaker 1: they cut the budget in half, moved to Canada and
Speaker 1: then rent out studio space owned by them. So just
Speaker 1: be a giant money wandering scheme.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's like asking you is pretty hot. On before
Speaker 2: after Brian's singers.
Speaker 1: Are about he can make a movie. He could just
Speaker 1: make it all the movies. All his commentaries is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had three weeks to shoot this and like what yeah,
Speaker 1: give it ready, Alien Pinewood.
Speaker 2: So, MJ, did you have any other thoughts on this chapter?
Speaker 2: The film was a whole.
Speaker 4: I think this film is great. I I mean I
Speaker 4: love the song so much.
Speaker 2: Yes, you want to talk about the song that was
Speaker 2: that was your dream chapter, but it's not how the
Speaker 2: scheduling worked out. When I do apologize for that, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But yeah it's an old.
Speaker 4: Tim Yeah yeah yeah. The biggest uh, the biggest lord
Speaker 4: drop for us on on our Deep bluecy episode was
Speaker 4: learning that that it's a reference to a different L
Speaker 4: cool J song?
Speaker 1: Does it because he mentioned shark fin right? The my
Speaker 1: hat is like a sharks in another song? Hm? Which
Speaker 1: one is that.
Speaker 4: It's called I'm bad my hat. So he says, uh
Speaker 4: mcs can't win. I make him rust like ten. They
Speaker 4: call me Jaws. My hat is like a sharks fin.
Speaker 1: Oh and they just read really like did that for this?
Speaker 5: I guess, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But he's singing about becoming a shark and a man
Speaker 1: and then going in the water and killing people.
Speaker 4: He becomes, Yes.
Speaker 5: He becomes, he becomes, he.
Speaker 4: Becomes the kind of era that he's one of creations
Speaker 4: in the song.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she created.
Speaker 1: Monster killers, sworn to be swallowed them in flames. They
Speaker 1: switched my DNA trip me into cool ja. I can't
Speaker 1: fight the feeling I'm born to kill prey to survive
Speaker 1: an attack. There's only one way, battle to the death.
Speaker 4: That's sure.
Speaker 1: Sharks play. Were we dueling with the mind? Wait, he's
Speaker 1: Jaws four, his preacher of creation, struggling to flow with
Speaker 1: hemorrhages in your getting the lap dance.
Speaker 4: While that's why he's so good at killing sharks.
Speaker 2: He's one of them, well, none of them.
Speaker 4: He's like, have you guys done, Have you guys done
Speaker 4: Shark Side of the Moon.
Speaker 2: No yet, it's on the list.
Speaker 4: Okay, we just did Shark side of the moon. That
Speaker 4: was our Christmas special last year. And there is a
Speaker 4: there's a human shark hybrid in that nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really want it. I et your ancestors.
Speaker 1: The ocean is haunted.
Speaker 4: It's my favorite line of that song.
Speaker 2: It's a great rhyme. It's a perfect rhyme.
Speaker 1: Wait, Jake, can wait? I eat your ancestors, The ocean
Speaker 1: is haunted. No, wait, my name's ll. You really don't
Speaker 1: want it? I eat your ancestors. The ocean is haunted.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, that works one to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going, Oh shoot.
Speaker 4: So I am. I am reading about thello cool j
Speaker 4: song I'm Bad where that he first mentions his hat
Speaker 4: being like a sharksman, and it says the bulk of
Speaker 4: the sample is from Rhythm Heritage's theme from the television
Speaker 4: show Swat. Another movie.
Speaker 1: So he must have wanted it and that and Samuel
Speaker 1: Jackson's in it.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, huh wait, so he must have wanted to
Speaker 6: be in Swat then if he sampled that, right, he's
Speaker 6: just living his best life.
Speaker 2: Good for him, the ocean manifesting his career.
Speaker 1: If I ever got through one song, should my next
Speaker 1: tattoo be the oceans are haunted or wait, no, what's
Speaker 1: the line I hate your ancestors? The ocean is haunted?
Speaker 1: Should that be my next tattoo?
Speaker 2: Jay? Just I your just across your shoulder blades?
Speaker 4: That is okay. Now we're bumping up on Cape Fear.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start doing pull ups and record every
Speaker 1: episode shirtless and grow my hair out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and develop a Southern act.
Speaker 1: That's Mark Hofmar.
Speaker 2: It's underneath your.
Speaker 1: Car right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, that was my biggest thing I wanted
Speaker 4: to talk about, is that my hat is like a
Speaker 4: Sharksan is not the originator of the uh. It did
Speaker 4: not originate in the Deep Blue Sea song.
Speaker 2: I think we never covered that before, so we will
Speaker 2: definitely dig further into that when we cover the.
Speaker 1: Song again, and we'll give you more time for Deep
Speaker 1: Blue Sea two, we'll go back into it. Three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm notorious. I'll crush you like a jelly bean.
Speaker 4: I'm bad is also a line in that same verse.
Speaker 1: Where wait, wait in the song I'm bad. Yes, yep,
Speaker 1: I'll crush you like a jelly bean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tune of rock you like a hurricane?
Speaker 4: I like that?
Speaker 1: Oh what size is this? Is it like a little
Speaker 1: jelly belly because those aren't.
Speaker 4: That's it's very it's very easy to crushing jelly pean.
Speaker 4: That's not the brag you think it is.
Speaker 1: Of course, you're like a star phone cup.
Speaker 4: Well right, well that would be if that would be
Speaker 4: if Matt Hooper.
Speaker 1: Was I have that print right up here.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 1: Crushing the cup.
Speaker 4: The best.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: I think that will do. I am to plug what
Speaker 2: can listen, let's find it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were on the socials at I think just
Speaker 4: jobs for a minute. We are currently doing a season
Speaker 4: on Spielberg films, so we're we're we just did. We
Speaker 4: just recorded an episode about AI, artificial intelligence, which is
Speaker 4: a was a blind spot for both Sarah and I.
Speaker 4: So that'll be stuff in there, yes, yeah, lots of
Speaker 4: water stuff at the particularly at the end. And uh yeah.
Speaker 4: Next up is Minority Report, but that'll be a few
Speaker 4: weeks since I'm going on vacation. Probably probably when you
Speaker 4: guys hear this, I think AI will be the most
Speaker 4: recent episode. We also have another podcast called Let's Party
Speaker 4: with Marty, which is about Martin Martin Scorsese films. I
Speaker 4: think when this comes out, most recent episode will be
Speaker 4: about the age of innocence.
Speaker 2: Nice less Walter stuff in that one, but.
Speaker 1: Not completely difficult if it was Silence.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of water, a lot of water in
Speaker 4: Silence for sure.
Speaker 1: Gangs in New York's got some good mud work.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Cape Fear is a lot of rain, yes.
Speaker 4: Tape, Yeah, I mean just there's Yeah. The entire climax
Speaker 4: takes place on the titular Cape Fear.
Speaker 8: Oh, good job, great, Well, any plugs move some of
Speaker 8: the flex.
Speaker 2: At lifefestersfilm dot com. It's my site and you can
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Speaker 2: Next week, Marcus exciting times. Next week is the new
Speaker 2: Netflix film Thrash. I think it's I think it's just
Speaker 2: come out where the time this comes out, So we
Speaker 2: shipp it talk about that next week and if you
Speaker 2: don't get it to it next week, or do the
Speaker 2: week after, and then next week will be Anaconda three Offspring,
Speaker 2: our favorite film. Every recording that episode we both did.
Speaker 2: But that will do it for Deegnity one chapter thirty
Speaker 2: dive to thank you once again to a wonderful guest
Speaker 2: m J. Smith.
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Yeah, you're learning.
Speaker 2: And Markfmeyer and will Deep Blue see you next week.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's really good in the EPI