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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right Show.

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We are so super stoked to have Senator Ran Paul

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back with us. It's been way too long. You guys

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know him as the Senator from Kentucky with the great

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hair who puts out the annual Festivus report outlining all

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the government waste. And now he is the chair of

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the Homeland Security and Government Governmental Affairs Committee, which is

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very exciting where you're loving that you're in a position

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to focus on censorship and COVID. So we want to

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know what your primary objectives and goals are for the

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committee and how much is Fauci being in jail one

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of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'd like to recreate the committee as an

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oversight committee, which means we go after the executive branch.

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We uncover what they're doing with our money, We uncover

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wasteful spending. There's still a lot we don't know about COVID.

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For example, we know that the US government funded research

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in Wuhan. We think that research led to the pandemic.

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We don't know how the funding got approved. Though in

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twenty fourteen there was a more torn on gain a

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function research. This research that puts together two viruses and

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makes them more dangerous by putting them together. There was

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a moratorium from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen when they started.

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Speaker 3: The flow of money again.

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Speaker 2: Though, they created a safety committee called the P three

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CEO Committee. This committee is where dangerous research would go

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to be analyzed to make sure it was safe before

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we funded it. Well, the research in Muhan never went there.

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We've discovered that there were meetings to discuss this, but

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then the decision was made that it wouldn't go to

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the safety committee. But they won't release the details. They

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won't release the discussion, they won't release who is.

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Speaker 3: Part of the meeting.

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Speaker 2: And we've been going at this for three years. This

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is NIH. We're going to get it. We're going to

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have a cooperative administration. Jay Baticharia is a scientist, an

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MD and a PhD from Stanford who's been a leader

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in advocating for transparency.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be head of NIH. I've spoken with him.

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Speaker 2: I've also spoken with Robert Kennedy, who will be his

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boss if he's confirmed at AHHS. They are both for

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more transparency on everything. In addition, we're going to send

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them a little legal reminder that they can use with

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their career servants, and that's a subpoena. The reason we're

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sending them is a subpoena is not that we don't

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think that they'll react. We actually think they'll be helpful.

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But our fear is that there actually will still be

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career people at NIH and AHHS who will try to

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hide the ball and will say basically try to defy

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what they are told to do. I think illegal subpoena

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is a little bit of a reminder that if they

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do so, it's against the law, and there can be

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legal ramifications. But we think there's still some significant information

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to find out on this front.

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Speaker 3: We also have legislation to try to fix this.

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Speaker 2: Instead of just having this committee that may or may

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not look at dangerous research, we have a bill called

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the Risky Research Review Act, and this would be a

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presidential and paneled commission scientists who would have the ability

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to look at all grants throughout all of government, look

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at the dangerous ones, bring them before for special review,

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and would have the ability to stop funding them. So

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this would be basically a veto power on dangerous research,

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and we have bipartisan support for it. We got it

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out of Committee last year, but not to the full floor.

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Our hope is to get that to the full floor.

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But in general, what we'd like to do is take

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the committee and look at how your money's being spent,

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look for waste, fraud and abuse, and basically use the

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ability of the committee to issue subpoenas to go after

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that record and make the executive branch produce these.

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Speaker 4: Records you got. You've been fighting for this for years,

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like you've got to I would think, I would imagine,

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I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but

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you've got to feel a little bit better just knowing

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that this administration is going to be taking the helm

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this is you could at least move forward a little

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bit because I feel like we talked to you, gosh

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a couple of years ago, and I just feel like

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this is something that you've been fighting for forever, for

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the American peace people to try to get answers about

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this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is is we I can show you

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two documents that are two hundred and fifty pages long

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where everything's redacted, and this is from the AHA chef.

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Speaker 3: This isn't the.

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Speaker 2: CIA, this is Health and Human Services, redacting large portion

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of records because they're hiding something.

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Speaker 3: So we are going to get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 2: We also think, though, that there is bioweapons research in

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our own government, in the intel community that needs to

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be exposed at the very least needs oversight from public officials.

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So if I'm not allowed to see it, that means

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nobody's looking at it, nobody in the public, nobody in Congress.

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So we need oversight of our bioweapons projects as well.

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So this new committee would oversee everything classified unclassified.

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Speaker 3: And for example, let's say ebola.

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Speaker 2: Ebola kills fifty percent of people, and let's say someone

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in the intel community says, oh, well, the Chinese are

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trying to aerosolize it, meaning spread through the air.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe we should do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe we should have a discussion of that, because

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aerosolizing it, if it leaks from a lab, could kill

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fifty percent of.

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Speaker 3: The world's population.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a devastation beyond the Black plague, beyond

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the plagues of the Middle Ages. So we're talking about

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something so horrendous that could really even have the potential

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of wiping out mankind. Certainly there ought to be a

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little bit of a public discussion of what we're doing,

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even in the classified section. So we're pushing hard on this.

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You're right, the Trump administration has appointed good people, even

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on the intel side. This is why I love someone

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like Tulca Gabbard, who has a healthy disrespect for too

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much power concentrated in secret to abuse people's civil liberties.

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In fact, the current TSA went after her and put

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her on a list. I mean, what kind of government

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is that a former congresswoman is put on a list

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to have people flying on the plane with her because

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of her political views. That is outrageous and that jail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but how confident, because people are asking, they want

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us to ask you, how confident at all do you

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feel about there being accountability for Anthony Fauci, who, of

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course everybody is still mad at in conservative circles, and

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rightly so, because it just seems like he's skated off

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into retirement, he's loving his life, he's got all the

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Secret Service whatever, and we're just like, wait, so he

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just that's it.

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Speaker 4: We get to pay his pension. That's it seems like

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not very fair.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's worse than that.

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Speaker 2: It's not just his pension. We are spending fifteen million

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dollars a year providing a limousine, a driver, and twenty

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four hour security to Anthony Fauci. Meanwhile, he made more

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money than the president. He's being treated as a former president.

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The one thing I think will end pretty close hopefully

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to day one, is that's going to end. They say

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you got death threats, Well so have I. I've had

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periods of time where we've had more than thirty death

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threats in a month. So the thing is it's not good.

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I don't want anybody to have death threats. But he

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doesn't deserve the same kind of protection that the former

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president cats. And I don't think his death threats or

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any of that has been out of the ordinary to

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most public officials. But he shouldn't be getting a limo

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sent to his house every day. That is insane. But

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when he was in office, he was making over four

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hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. His wife was

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making over two hundred and fifty thousand. She was the

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ethics counselor over at the NIH and so can you imagine,

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can you imagine? But yeah, that's got to end. And

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he did lie to Congress. I will refer him again

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for prosecution to the new Attorney General. But the bottom

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line is, I am very, very pleased with a lot

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of these nominations. Tulsea Gabbard, I'm very pleased with Robert

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Kennedy cash Ptel at the FBI. All these places need

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a house cleaning, They need someone to look at root

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out corruption and partisanship. And I don't want them to

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replace partisanship with our partisanship. I want them to remove partisanship.

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And so when I say that, I say that if

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the FBI is going after homeschoolers or Catholics or pro

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life people, that needs to end. But doesn't mean we

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turn around and we use the government to go after

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people protesting in favor of abortion. We get the government

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out of regulating and policing speech.

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Speaker 3: Speech should be completely uninterrupted by the government.

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Speaker 2: It's another thing we're going to investigate in our committee,

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and that is the idea that the FBI and the

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Department of Homeland Security we're meeting with Twitter now. Elon

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Musk revealed a lot of this through the Twitter files.

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Matt Taibi and Michael Schellenberger have revealed a lot of

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the private side of this, but I think they've exposed

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some documents that when we receive these documents from government

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where we can see the internal emails going back and

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forth between the people and government who are wanting to

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regulate speech, I think there's going to be some shocking

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things revealed. But I believe that we will get that

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either through subpoena or also with the help of the

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Speaker 4: We're totally ready for it. And then when it comes

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to like the waste, the fraud, the corruption that you're

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famous for the Festivus Report, and then also being like

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the only guy in the Senate that cares about this stuff.

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So are you going to be working with doge to

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to try to you know, bring this stuff to light

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to try to get you know, the fat cut. Are

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you going to be helping them?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: And ultimately requires Congress dose can do not a lot

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more than pointing out the ways they don't have the

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actual power to reduce anyways. I'm there to try to

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cut the spending. But I'll give you an example of

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what we're up against. Some of the worst grants that

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you've seen, Like we one of the ones we exposed

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was do lonely rats use more cocaine than rats are

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have lots of friends and have spouses and have.

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Speaker 3: A good social group. Do they use more cocaine? That

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Speaker 2: Wow, four point eight million dollars spent studying or giving

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money to social media influencers in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: My favorite was the drag Queens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the Bearded Ladies quartet.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got it from them totally. But a

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Speaker 2: The crazy research, like Japanese quail, if you give them cocaine,

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are they more sexually promiscuous? Most of these times of

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most of these studies come from the National Science Foundation.

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So not only have I been pointing the National Science

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Speaker 3: Their crazy research. This goes all the way back to

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the nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Seventies with William Proxmyer doing it. But I'll give you

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example of what we're up against and why this is

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a difficult project and not so easy. A year ago,

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Republicans with Democrats put forward a bill called the Chips Act.

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Speaker 3: This was to subsidize.

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Speaker 2: Giant manufacturers of microchips, Intel companies from Taiwan, companies from

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around the world, and we were going to subsidize them.

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the National Science Foundation. So my point is, you won't

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get less waste. It's not like we can appoint someone

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to work at the National Science Foundation.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to root out waste. You have to give

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Speaker 2: If you give them twice as much money, you'll get

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twice as much crazy research. And so this passed with

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Speaker 3: Do you see what I'm up.

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Speaker 2: Against when I vote against these spending proposals? Against explosion

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are battles in primaries, and people have to send more

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conservative Republicans. There are no conservative Democrats left. William Proxmyer

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was one in the nineteen seventies. They're gone. There was

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a dying breed, but they've died all it's only Republicans

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that will care. But unfortunately we're at about half in

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the Senate, and it's about the same in the House.

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hundred billion dollars for you crane. Mike Johnson went along

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with it. He was to be a conservative and he

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got he got rolled and co opted. So the battle

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isn't over. And people probably who listen to your podcast

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are activists and people who want to say and need

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to get involved and say you can't keep sending the

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same people back here.

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Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you're you're pegging our audience

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just exactly right. That's what they care about. They care

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about how much spending there is on stupid crap that

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nobody wants this money spent on. Although I do worry

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that the three of us are underestimating the importance of

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coked out Quail.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's you just don't know, queens.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 4: Possibly, well, we want to be.

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Speaker 2: Respectful or policing the border in Paraguay. Yes, yes, I

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think people are concerned about the border, but they just

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soon we spend money on our border, before we start

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sending money to the border of Ukraine or the border

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of Paraguay.

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Speaker 1: You think, yeah, exactly, well, we want to be respectful

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of your time, centered Paul. We appreciate it. We know

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you're on a time schedule, and so thank you so

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much for being with us today.

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Speaker 2: We really appreci Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: That's