1 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from micro Climate Controlled Studio a here at proven Winners, 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,359 with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick weisst and our engineer and 4 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:21,039 producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacy, you know, this month marks 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,679 my fiftieth year in the garden center industry, and I 6 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:28,640 can tell you I've seen it all. And I have 7 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:34,200 a friend who is a retired professor from Michigan State University, 8 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:37,840 and something she said to me a long time ago 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,439 has stuck with me through the years in the garden 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,560 center industry, and that is that people search for and 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,640 buy in a garden center what they're familiar with. In 12 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:55,000 other words, if you have a whiskey barrel that every 13 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:58,479 year you put geraniums in it, you're coming in to 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,759 get your geraniums for your whiskey barrel. 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's how I grew up. Love you, mom, 16 00:01:03,039 --> 00:01:06,239 but it's true, and it is one of the things 17 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:08,280 that made me want to go into gardening is because 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,439 I was like, there's so much else and I want 19 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,840 to learn about it. But I get it. People, you know, 20 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:16,239 especially if you live in a cold climate, you got 21 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:19,040 a short window of time. You don't want to take 22 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,879 a chance on something that you know may not do 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,799 what you expect. You're spending your good money on it. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,519 You're just like I want something that I know and 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,959 can predict will will do well and do great for 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,519 me all season. But again, the garden center industry has 27 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:36,120 come a long way since those fifty years ago when 28 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:40,359 you started. Which congratulations on your momentous anniversary. Thanks like 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,519 a golden anniversary. 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,239 Speaker 1: I'm just like the bud Leah's in my landscape. I 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,519 bleom on old wood. But you know, and thank you. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 It's fascinating to me, it really is. You know, Bridget 33 00:01:56,079 --> 00:01:59,439 she was involved in marketing stuff where they were looking 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,599 at the feet the ability of a blue geranium, or 35 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:08,840 they were putting special glasses on people and then trying 36 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:12,039 to figure out how people shop in a garden center. 37 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:14,360 But the bottom line is this, and this is what 38 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:18,000 she drove home with me. My job in the garden center, 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,479 our job as broadcasters is to show people what they need, 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,039 show them what they need, and it's an easy job. 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,199 And it's an easy job because there are so many 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:37,759 incredible varieties of plants available today that have been developed 43 00:02:37,759 --> 00:02:39,360 and by the way. I've been meaning to talk to 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,319 you about this, Stacy. Right here at Proven Winners Color 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,120 Choice Shrubs. We have some fabulous new plants for garden 46 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:48,680 centers this year, and that's what today's show is about 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,159 what you should look for in garden centers this year. 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,240 I was going to ask you about red Zeppelin, sweet 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,520 shrub Kelly kanthus. 50 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, the plant that everybody wants can get. 51 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,719 Speaker 1: Is it gonna happen? 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: It is gonna happen, Yes, it is gonna happen. But 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,919 now this plant has a very interesting story. And obviously 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,240 I cannot tell every story behind every plant or the 55 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,319 show would go so much longer than it already is 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,319 has to go. But yeah, So there was a plant, 57 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:19,159 a purple leaf kelly canthus. And this is a variety 58 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:22,080 of our native kelly canthus kelly Canthus floridus, also known 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,439 as sweet Betsy or sweet trub, carolina all spice. Lots 60 00:03:25,479 --> 00:03:28,319 of great names there. So it was a purple leaf variety. 61 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:30,479 It was called Burgundy spice. It did not come from us, 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,080 and this came out maybe you know fifteen ish years 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,280 ago nursery industry went bananas for it. We love this thing. 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,919 Could couldn't get enough of it, and they literally couldn't 65 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:43,000 get enough of it because it was impossible to propagate. 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,159 And yes it was a very cool plant, but you know, 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,680 it can't be cut, it can't be done by cuttings. 68 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:51,360 You know, trying to do it any other way was 69 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:54,599 just not feasible, so it kind of disappeared from the marketplace. Well, 70 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:58,400 we actually worked with the original breeder of Burgundy spice, 71 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:02,199 Kelly Canthus, with some of his alternate plants that he 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,599 had developed, to get all of those features into a 73 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,560 plant that could actually be propagated, but actually be propagated 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,280 for a sweet trub, not talking like a nine bark 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,599 or a hydrange of piniculator here that just roots like 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 you know, we don't even have to think about it. 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,439 It is still a difficult plant to propagate, even though 78 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:23,120 it is much better from a propagation standpoint than the 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,160 original Burgundy spice. But yeah, this is going to be 80 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:27,439 a slow plant to get on the market. Why because 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,680 the demand has been so high from you know, all 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,160 of our customers, from gardeners, from influencers around the internet. 83 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:38,279 I know Eric and Christopher from Grow from Me Gardening 84 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:41,040 are just jonesing for one, and you're on our mind, 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,720 Eric and Christopher, but you know, we actually needed to 86 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:49,519 hold back the plants that we were propagating to take 87 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:51,720 more cuttings and be able to meet all of that demand. 88 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:55,959 So it's it's out ish. If you're very lucky, you 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360 might find a small plant online for sales, so it'll 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,240 be like a one court, which is it's on a 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,079 bad start. Once you have it, it's a fast growing plant. 92 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:05,120 It's just the propagation that's a problem. But yeah, it 93 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:08,480 is such a unique, beautiful plant. Now, I do have 94 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:13,399 to say unfortunately with the onset of that purple foliage, 95 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:16,040 it did lose its fragrance, so the flowers are not 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,040 fragrant like your standard sweet trup. So just in case 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,040 anyone's getting any ideas out there, but it's still just 98 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:25,920 an absolutely beautiful, truly interesting plant. If you like dark 99 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,759 foliage and you like dramatic plants, it's the one. 100 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I bring it up. And I love 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 the name red Zeppelin. I love that I can hear 102 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:38,879 Robert Plant singing a whole lot of love because I've 103 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:41,000 got a whole lot of love for this plant. 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, we will see what we can do to get 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,879 you on, but you will be on a long list 106 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,279 of special recipients who are eagerly awaiting the plant. 107 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,959 Speaker 1: All right, well, at least I have an inside track now. 108 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:55,639 But yeah, so you know we're going to talk about 109 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,079 more plants throughout the show and into segment four because 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,839 there are new annuals, new perennials for you to enjoy, 111 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,600 and of course flowering shrubs. To Stacey, I can't wait 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,079 for Kodiak Jet Black, the Spiced Durvilla, and of course 113 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,399 in garden centers and as the name suggest, incredible stormproof 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,120 smooth hydranger. We all loved smooth hydranges, but for a 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,639 lot of people they don't like the flop fantastic or 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,120 powerball HYDRANGEA wow. And for our YouTube viewers, I have 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,279 a picture for you of me with Fairy Trail Fresco 118 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,720 in the greenhouse this past weekend. What a great plant 119 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,920 for garden centers for Mother's Day. And these things were 120 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,600 just gorgeous and it was interesting in the picture Stacey 121 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,879 that they were beautiful pink, but I understand you can 122 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:55,120 get them blue. 123 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So Fairy Trail Bride, of course was the original. 124 00:06:58,079 --> 00:07:00,800 That's white can't change its color. Then we had Fairy 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Trail White, which is a mophead version of Fairy Trail Bride, 126 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Fairy Trail Green, which is a green one, and then 127 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,439 Fresco just came out, So yeah, this is its first 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,199 year in the market and it is the first one 129 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:12,439 to be able to change color. So it has that 130 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,120 really beautiful, elegant cascading branches that make the cascade hydrangees 131 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:21,759 so distinctive. But yeah, the flowers can actually change color. 132 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:23,639 So this is going to be a huge game changer. 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Now as far as Mother's Day goes, the Fairy Trail 134 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:30,920 hydrangs have absolutely just changed the Mother's Day game. Garden 135 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:35,079 centers love them. Growers are producing them specifically for Mother's Day. 136 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:38,079 But because Fresco is still a little bit new, it's 137 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,800 not the most prominent one out there. But next year 138 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:44,160 there will be even more. But yeah, just a really cool, 139 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:45,000 really special plant. 140 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,519 Speaker 1: Oh. I love it. Of course, in the area of perennials, 141 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,120 I always look for the new grasses that are coming out. 142 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,399 There's a perfect edging tall fescue. There are other ornamental 143 00:07:56,439 --> 00:08:02,079 grasses like october sky switch grass, blue spear, which is 144 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,399 really neat and has an inflorescence on it that is 145 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,600 different than what you are used to with a panicum. 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Very exciting to me. Heliopsis athena gold. 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Wow, what a crap pro I think we just learned 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,519 what your favorite genre of music is. What's new grass? 149 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:28,519 Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I like that. I like that new grass. 150 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: Because you're pretty excited about those grasses. I mean not 151 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,240 everyone listening right now is on YouTube. 152 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:38,799 Speaker 1: But and you caught me completely off guard, and I'm like, 153 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:40,639 how am I gonna do this? This? 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,639 Speaker 2: I like that. 155 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,159 Speaker 1: I like that a lot. 156 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,159 Speaker 2: Thank you. We have talked a lot already about the 157 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,000 Treasure Trove. Rebeccia one of the new perennials, and this 158 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,519 is such a game changing Rebeccia. And people think, oh, 159 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,120 black eyed Susan, ho haa, you see it everywhere, But 160 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:57,879 actually there's a very good chance you would not be 161 00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:00,519 seeing black eyed Susan everywhere for very much, much longer 162 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,840 because it's very very susceptible to a leaf spot that 163 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:05,960 makes it super unsightly. People dig them out if it 164 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,039 doesn't take the plant out entirely. And Treasure Trove is 165 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,919 one that, for over seven years in trial, has never 166 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,360 shown any signs of that leaf spot, so super duper resistant. 167 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,840 It is a beautiful has everything you love about the 168 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:23,600 regular standard black eyed Susan perennials, but without that leaf 169 00:09:23,639 --> 00:09:27,080 spot issue. So a great choice if you are replacing 170 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,279 ones that you are just tired of, or you had 171 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,559 lost faith in Rebeccia and want to bring it back. 172 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: Fantastic. So on segment four, we're going to jam in 173 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,759 as many annuals perennials and flowering shrubs that you should 174 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:45,279 be looking for at your garden center this year to 175 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,200 kick this all off and lead us into plants on Trial. 176 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:53,919 Here's my green thumb limb a rick this week. If 177 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,320 it's new, improved, I'll try it in impulse. I can't 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,799 deny it. This fledgling upstar art put it on my cart. 179 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,399 I think I'm gonna buy it. I'm not settling for 180 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:09,559 home drum when I spend my hard earned income. These 181 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,279 plants give me thrills, So I'm handling dollar bills. It's 182 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,919 how I get my green thumb. 183 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Love it. 184 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: Plants on Trial is next here on the Gardening Simplified. 185 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Show, beautify your home and community with proven winner's color 186 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:32,799 choice shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique 187 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,039 varieties to choose from. There's a flowering, shrubber, evergreen for 188 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,279 every taste and every space. Just look for the distinctive 189 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:42,039 white container your local garden center or learn more at 190 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:48,039 Provenwinner's Color Choice dot com. Reeting's gardening friends, and welcome 191 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,480 back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we are talking 192 00:10:50,519 --> 00:10:54,440 all about what is new in your garden centers when 193 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,399 you head out shopping, which I know some people have 194 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,440 already been shopping, and certainly our friends in the warmer 195 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 climates have been shopping for a while. But for a 196 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,360 lot of us in cooler climates, even though it's been 197 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:07,159 an early spring, we're just really starting to go shopping, 198 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,159 you know, for to get all of our plants. And 199 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,159 you still got to be careful. You know that we 200 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,879 can definitely still get a froster freeze here in Michigan, 201 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:15,919 and I would say most of the Midwest and Northeast. 202 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,960 But you know, as long as you got a blanket, 203 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 handy or you know, you don't plant, you just kind 204 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,039 of keep them in an area where you can. But 205 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,840 some people want to get in there for you know, 206 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:26,399 early and get the best selection. 207 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:28,759 Speaker 1: And I want to take those risks yeah, it's fun. 208 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,159 Speaker 2: It is. It is really fun. And you know, I 209 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,600 think that even though a lot of people do rely 210 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,879 on the tried and true, there's tremendous interest in what 211 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:40,360 is new as well. And I know I remember a 212 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:45,440 customer once asked me, well, you know, tell me what 213 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,480 you have for new varieties, because no one ever comes 214 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:48,879 in and asks me what's old. 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,399 Speaker 1: The dust. 216 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:55,279 Speaker 2: So there is some interest in what is new, and 217 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,519 certainly you will find some of these at your local 218 00:11:57,519 --> 00:11:59,279 garden center. I know some garden centers are going to 219 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,039 be a little bit risk averse, maybe not go full 220 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,480 on with some new varieties that they aren't sure if 221 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,720 they're going to sell. Some will be like, hey, let's 222 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:09,360 just make like a whole huge display of what's new 223 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:12,159 from all different brands, because every brand, not just proven Winners, 224 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,240 is putting out new plants every year. Some are going 225 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,159 to go in between. But you know, I would also say, 226 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,200 if you're hearing about something that you like, or there's 227 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,480 something that you've read about that you like, always ask 228 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,600 at your garden center. It does not hurt to ask, 229 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,960 you know, if you can, if you're if you're there 230 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,960 and you can ask a tree and shrub buyer or 231 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:32,480 some sort of manager, Hey, can you get this in. 232 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,080 I'm interested in this. They don't know. They're just guessing. 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,879 They're not psychic, so your I mean, maybe they are. 234 00:12:38,919 --> 00:12:42,159 I don't. I can't speak for all of them. So 235 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:45,559 you know your requests and letting them know what you're 236 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,879 looking for, whether that is a specific plant or you're 237 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:50,320 saying like, hey, I want more native plants or I 238 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,679 want more space sating plants or whatever. These are the 239 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:54,480 kinds of things you need to communicate so that they 240 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:59,360 can make those decisions. It's appreciated, Yeah, absolutely so always, 241 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:03,039 you know, goodeback is always appreciated by everybody. But for 242 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,879 the last several months, when it comes to plants on trial, 243 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,200 I've been making them a little bit more abstract, kind 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,000 of more conceptual, talking about bigger things. But I'm bringing 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,279 it back to a kind of single plant this week. 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: All right. 247 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: I was really tempted to make this about my favorite 248 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:21,840 new plant, my favorite new shrubs for twenty twenty six, 249 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,679 but that would have been too long, so I narrowed 250 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,440 it down to a plant, a new plant for twenty 251 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,240 twenty six, new shrub that is a little bit mystifying 252 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,159 and it's a plant that we don't talk about very 253 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,960 often on the show. So you know, usually people we 254 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:41,000 say all the time they're confused about hydrange as, they 255 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,279 don't know how to take care of them. But another 256 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,039 plant that people are supremely confused about is azaleas. Oh. 257 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, they. 258 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,519 Speaker 2: Are very confused about azaleas for a couple of reasons. 259 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:57,279 Number one, azaleas and rhododendrons are the same genus. Some 260 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:02,120 all right, how does this go? All azaleas are rhododendrons, 261 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,840 but not all rhododendrons are azaleas, so they're very closely related. 262 00:14:06,279 --> 00:14:09,279 The distinctions between them, it's like the number of stamens 263 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,639 that they have, not something that matters to the average person. 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:17,360 All rhododendrons are evergreen, whereas azalea's may be deciduous, semi evergreen, 265 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,039 or evergreen. So I know that's about as clear as mud. 266 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,399 Most azaleas tend to be smaller. There's a number of 267 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,919 other differences in between them. But I think what a 268 00:14:27,919 --> 00:14:29,799 lot of people what happens is a lot of people 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,799 will know about like classic Southern garden and gardens or 270 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,759 you know, and how closely associated the South is with azaleas. 271 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean this past month we had the 272 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:46,360 Masters yeah and the Masters yeah. And that's all about, 273 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,039 is it right? 274 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: So people see that and they're like, wow, look at 275 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,519 those gorgeous azaleas. I want those at my house. And 276 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:55,759 they go to their garden center and you know, Wisconsin 277 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:59,960 or Minnesota or whatever, and they're like, where's all azaleas. 278 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:05,639 I know I have seen azaleas around my neighborhood. They 279 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:08,240 didn't quite look like the Masters azaleas, but I'm not 280 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:10,559 finding them at my garden center. I don't know, Like, 281 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:13,399 what's going on? Can I just not grow azaleas? And 282 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,759 it is confusing. So the azaleas that kind of get 283 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,120 all the tension. The Masters azaleas, the Southern azaleas, those 284 00:15:20,159 --> 00:15:24,720 are not super hardy plants. They are hardy probably to 285 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,080 about USDA Zone six, and even then it's kind of 286 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,080 a not all USDA Zone six areas. You have to 287 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,679 be pretty mild. You can't have prolonged cold because if 288 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,279 you do, they get a lot of setback. There's Kurume azaleas, 289 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:41,399 which came from Japan. Those are really popular on the 290 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:45,440 East coast. Gumpbo Azalea's similar hardiness again, hardy to the 291 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,240 USDA Zone six. And then there's this other group called 292 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,600 the Northern Lights azalea's. Yes, those are developed by the 293 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,759 University of Minnesota and are hardy down to USDA Zone three, 294 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,480 but you don't really see them around all that much anymore. 295 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I think Northern lights is deciduous. 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,559 Speaker 2: Yes, so a lot of these azaleas. If you can 297 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:06,000 grow them in a colder climate like usdas on six, 298 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:08,559 they will be deciduous, whereas if you were growing them 299 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,200 in a warm climate there ever, they keep their foliage. 300 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Let me just quickly mention Stacey that my experience with 301 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,080 azaleas in the north has been I want a spot 302 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,639 that sunny in summer, but provide structural shade in winter 303 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:25,600 to protect the plants. At least that's how I've. 304 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:27,559 Speaker 2: Had so Yeah, I mean they are a little bit finicky. 305 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,120 Of course, they need acidic soil just like a rhododendron wood. 306 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,120 They do appreciate shade, sort of like high dappled shade 307 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,799 is a really great situation for them. But there's another 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,080 type of azalea that I think isn't getting nearly enough attention, 309 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,600 and we are trying to change that with this new introduction, 310 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,399 and that is our North American native azaleas. 311 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:48,759 Speaker 1: Wow. 312 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: Now, I'm sure a lot of people are surprised to 313 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,639 even find out that azaleas are native to North America, unless, 314 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:55,879 of course they have driven the Blue Ridge Parkway in 315 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,799 spring where it is absolutely covered with them. I think 316 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,159 that the apple, specifically the Blue Ridge Mountains in North 317 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:07,440 Carolina has to be the epicenter of American native azaleas. 318 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:10,279 They are just everywhere down there, and we have a 319 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,680 number of beautiful species. My personal favorite is the flame azalea, 320 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:17,640 which is rhododendron colendulation. How much fun is that to 321 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,440 say colunngulation? And of course I love the color flame 322 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,839 azalea yellow orange or red flowers depending on the native population. 323 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,640 Just fabulous. And so I think with the increasing interest 324 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:33,400 in native plants, there has been an increasing market for 325 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,079 native azaleas too, And so today's plant on trial is 326 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,119 our native Ish azalea's the sweet Reward azaleas. Now, these 327 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,480 came to us from North Carolina. These were developed in 328 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,160 the Blue Ridge Mountains by Jim Ballington, a breeder at 329 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,400 North Carolina State University. And I'm saying native Ish because 330 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,680 there is a complex parentage among the series. Some of 331 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,880 them are exclusively North American natives species that have been 332 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,799 crossed to create it, so all of their parentage is 333 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,559 Native American. Others have some other species mixed into use, 334 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:09,839 going for you know, specific colors and that kind of thing. 335 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:12,519 So it's a little bit hard to generalize, except that 336 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:16,039 all of them have the same kind of vibe and 337 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:19,519 aesthetics as the native azaleas once you get them in 338 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:23,480 your garden. So the native azaleas are different than the 339 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,039 azalees we've just been talking about in that they're a 340 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:30,759 little bit more wild. People love the cushiony azaleas right, 341 00:18:30,759 --> 00:18:33,559 the button tough at azaleas, So these are a little 342 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,960 bit more wild looking. They're not huge, they are only 343 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:39,799 these sweet rewards get to be about three to six 344 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,319 feet tall and wide. And the reason for that wide 345 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,640 range is, of course, as we were saying, in cooler 346 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,640 climates it's going to be on the smaller side. In 347 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,200 warmer climates, it's going to be on the taller side, 348 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,799 so six foot so they're hardy to down to USDA 349 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Zone five heat tolerant through USDA Zone eight. But what 350 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,680 makes the native azaleas so special is that they're fragrant 351 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:06,279 and yeah, wow, because most people don't at all think 352 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:08,799 of azalea as having any kind of fragrance. They're like, oh, 353 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:10,519 it's a pretty flower, but it doesn't. And the same 354 00:19:10,519 --> 00:19:13,079 with rhododendrons, you know, they're they're not mostly fragrant. 355 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,559 Speaker 1: So what does it smell like? 356 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,319 Speaker 2: It's a great question. I'm going to describe it in 357 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,880 a way that is potentially unflattering, although it is actually lovely. 358 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,200 It is a very wonderful fragrance. It smells like sweet 359 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,000 water with green peppers. 360 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: Sounds like it. 361 00:19:33,079 --> 00:19:36,319 Speaker 2: Has like the sweetness, really nice sweetness to it, but 362 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,920 it has an unmistakable pepperiness to it, not the kind 363 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,680 that's going to make you want to sneeze, you know. 364 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: It's sweet bell. 365 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a sweet bell pepper, like just that kind 366 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:47,960 of like fresh greenness to it. It's a little bit 367 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,519 hard to explain, but it is very, very cool and 368 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:54,079 really lovely. And the other thing about these plants, they 369 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,640 have these amazing long stamens and pistols that just protrude 370 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:03,039 explode out of the flot They attract hummingbirds and butterflies, 371 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,119 and they're just nothing like those tame, pruned, fussy little azaleas. 372 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:13,519 They're wild, they're beautiful. The flowers come up on these 373 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,920 really cool candelabra like stems, so instead of again just 374 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,279 being that bun and tough it, they were like poof, poof, 375 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,279 poof with these flower clusters. So there's two varieties right now. 376 00:20:24,759 --> 00:20:27,599 There's Sweet Reward Coral, which is my favorite because it 377 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,000 has a lot of those orange colors in it, like 378 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:33,799 from our native azaleas. And then they're Sweet Reward pink, 379 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:36,480 So if your taste tends more to the pink, that 380 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:39,279 is a great choice. Coral is a lot of different colors, 381 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,279 absolutely beautiful. They're so covered in flowers that you really 382 00:20:43,279 --> 00:20:45,000 can't even see the leaves, which I know is another 383 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:48,240 thing that people love about azalea's when they bloom. So 384 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,960 just a really unique take on azalea's. And I think 385 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,279 something that you know when you see these, if these 386 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:56,799 are in bloom, when you go to your garden center 387 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,400 this season, they are going home with you. It is 388 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,799 like a non negotiable. You're gonna love them so much. 389 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,000 As long as you have shade, acidic soil, USDA zones 390 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,279 five through eight, and room for a three to six 391 00:21:07,319 --> 00:21:08,160 foot shrub. 392 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: Wow, And if you're listening to our podcast or the 393 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,519 radio version of our show, make sure to flip on 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,519 over to YouTube and watch Stacey describe a flower with 395 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,960 her hands. She demonstrated what I look like. That was spectacular. 396 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,200 I love it. I'm sold. 397 00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's up to you to decide if my interpretive 398 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,559 dance there matches the photo. But in any case, so 399 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,359 that is sweet reward. Azalea's please do look for them 400 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,559 at your garden center. 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You're Reading's gardening friends, and 411 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,119 welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where it's our 412 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,559 turn to answer your garden questions, quandaries and conundrums. You 413 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:24,359 can reach us at Gardening Simplified on air dot com. 414 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,759 A couple things before we get to the mail bag. 415 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Number one on break Adriana perfectly described what the fragrance 416 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,519 of the sweet reward azaleas is like pepper jelly. Yeah, 417 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,880 and Adriana actually makes pepper jelly, so she would know. 418 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,920 But yeah, it has that kind of like sweet like 419 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,079 you get all of that like sugary sweetness, but that 420 00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:50,759 fresh green, peppery kind of note in there. Yeah, it's great. 421 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880 So you know, not everyone has a fragrant as elia, 422 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,799 so that's pretty cool. So pepper jelly if that's a 423 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:58,759 better frame of reference than whatever crazy stuff I was 424 00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:03,680 just saying in the segment speaking of crazy stuff that 425 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:07,319 I say thank you so much to everybody who answered 426 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480 and weighed in on my pergola question. 427 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic. 428 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: Yes, we had a lot of comment too, a lot 429 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 of emails as well, so thank you all so much 430 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,359 for taking the time to share that the verdict is mixed. 431 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: I was going to say, what's the decision. 432 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,839 Speaker 2: The verdict is highly mixed. There was some great suggestions. 433 00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:30,599 Someone said, hey, you could just kind of make like 434 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:34,319 a narrow screen so you can sit next to your 435 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:36,559 grapes rather than under them. I thought that was kind 436 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:39,759 of a cool idea. Someone said, if you're putting up 437 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,839 a pergola, make sure it can withstand the winds in 438 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920 your area, because we had to secure ours, and I 439 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,359 do live in a very windy area, so I certainly 440 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,119 appreciate that bit of advice. And it would be basically 441 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:57,319 directly exposed to the western winds, so definitely a big consideration. 442 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,680 Some people said, I've never had a single problem some person. 443 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,480 Some people said I have to clean my furniture anytime 444 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,000 we want to go sit down out there. Some people 445 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:09,319 say it's beautiful, but I can't stand the wasps and hornets. 446 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,200 There is just a little fuzzy like floating right of 447 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:15,680 my face. 448 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, don't edit that olid Adriana. 449 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,079 Speaker 2: Anyway, not out of ospar hornet, just a little fuzzy. 450 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,039 Some people said spiders, which I do find spiders fascinating, 451 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,880 don't necessarily want them landing in my dinner. So yeah, 452 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,799 it was all over the place, and I think that 453 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,799 where my husband and I are at in this decision 454 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:40,079 is we're just going to go ahead and build the 455 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:44,359 patio and add the thing in later if we want. 456 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,759 Speaker 1: To, which is how I did it. 457 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: Because it's not going to be hard. You know, our 458 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,559 patio is not going to be poured concrete or anything. 459 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,240 We're not gonna have to go and get a jackhammer. 460 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,400 It's just going to be pavers, and so we can 461 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:58,240 just take up a group of pavers to install the pergola. 462 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're keeping square at home with the 463 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:04,000 pergola that I built, the concrete slab was already there, 464 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,559 so I just used a drill to drill holes in 465 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,759 the concrete and you can get these footings that you 466 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:12,440 put the posts in. So yeah, it works. 467 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,319 Speaker 2: So there's even a way to do that, except, of course, 468 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,799 then you couldn't plant, because that would be a problem 469 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,160 I have. 470 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,759 Speaker 1: You'd have to jackhammer grape expectations for your projects. 471 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,799 Speaker 2: So we're gonna table the pergola in favor of an 472 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,279 umbrella to give us some shade there. And thank you 473 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,400 so much for the people who said consider getting a 474 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,599 covered one so you can be out there when it rains. 475 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,279 That is a great idea. But we do also have 476 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,799 a covered front porch, so we usually spend our time 477 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,640 out there when it rains, and then that gives us 478 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,599 a chance to enjoy the front. So I do love 479 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,200 the idea and thank you all so much for sharing 480 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,640 your opinions and experience with us. It means a lot. 481 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,000 So what have we got in the mail bag? 482 00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:53,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention quickly at the start with the 483 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,480 mail bag, Stacy, I don't think it's a fig leaf 484 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,000 of my imagination. For folks who are in the north, 485 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,039 A lot of die back from the polar vortex, as 486 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,480 it relates to bud Lea's. You know, every year it's 487 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:10,279 different and mine have started butting out and it's low 488 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,200 down on the stems. So I did have a lot 489 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,680 of die back. 490 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't panic if you have a lot of 491 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,079 die back, it will be fine, exactly. But this is 492 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,799 why you wait to prune your butterfly bush until you're 493 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:22,400 actually seeing that growth come out, and then you can 494 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480 prune where the growth is, rather than you know, having 495 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,400 to prune again when it doesn't come out along the 496 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 whole stems. But you know, I know, you know, Rick, 497 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,359 But it's so amazing to me when you have a 498 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,079 butterfly bush that was seriously set back for whatever reason. 499 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,559 How quickly it will grow once it starts getting warm. 500 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,440 It's like by the time you know, mid June rolls around, 501 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,119 you'll forget it was ever set back, because it'll be 502 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,119 like nothing happened. 503 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,799 Speaker 1: You got to maintain your composture, all right, Gen writes, 504 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,960 For the past few years, I've been buying bags of 505 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,519 blackwood mulch. However, I've heard that the black dye isn't 506 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,799 great to use. I really like to look at the 507 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:57,240 dark mulch though, and a few other gardeners that I 508 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:01,440 follow I've mentioned using compost as mulch. There's a garden 509 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,920 center close to me that sells compost in bulk. Wondering 510 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,240 if it's a good approach to take. I really want 511 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:09,240 to do what's best for the health of the garden. 512 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,519 I'm fortunate to have good soil, so I'm not concerned 513 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,880 about amending it at all. I just want something that 514 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,519 has the benefits of mulch, is good for the plants, 515 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,519 and if it looks good too. In an added bonus, 516 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,119 great question for the jen. 517 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: I know well. Dyed mulch is certainly a contentious topic. 518 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: It is. 519 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: I am firmly in the no dyed mulch camp myself, 520 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,759 but I think the question for anybody who is struggling 521 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:39,880 with this is why are you mulching? And compost does 522 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,799 make a great mulch, so let's get that out of 523 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:44,759 the way right away. Compost would be a great mulch 524 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,000 for people like Rick or I who garden in an 525 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,000 area that's very, very sandy. It helps you increase the 526 00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:52,559 moisture retention of the soil, and it does have that 527 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,079 nice dark look, of course that you like. It's probably 528 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,319 not going to be as good at suppressing weeds as 529 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,960 a bark mulch would be, so if you're using mulch 530 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,720 for weed suppression, compost is not necessarily going to be 531 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:10,359 a great alternative. The other thing is, of course, both 532 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,160 compost is simply decayed organic matter that has turned into 533 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240 People think it's soil because it kind of looks like soil, 534 00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:20,640 but compost is purely organic matter that is completely decayed 535 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,039 into something else entirely. Bark mulch is also organic matter. 536 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,200 Of course, it all came from trees, but the composts 537 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,480 because it is much further along in the decay process. 538 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,799 A compost mulch is not going to last as long 539 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,000 as a bark mulch. It's definitely going to erode potentially, 540 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:43,880 you know, because those particles are really lightweight and it's 541 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,000 going to break down, which is good for the plants. 542 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:47,680 I mean, don't get me wrong, you definitely want that 543 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:51,880 to break down and give nutrients to the plants. But yeah, 544 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,000 it's not going to provide the weed control. It's probably 545 00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:58,319 not going to provide great erosion control either, because when 546 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,799 soil erodes from water, like rainfall or something like that, 547 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,640 the lightest particles wash away first. This is why if 548 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,599 you're looking around your yard after all the rain we've 549 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,480 had in Michigan, and you see where there's wash out, 550 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,519 all that's left of sand because sand is the heaviest particle, 551 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:16,319 So all the silt, all the clay, all the organic matter, 552 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,039 and that gets washed away. That's why you're left with 553 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,200 that little sandpile. So compost is also not going to 554 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,240 hold up to erosion as well as mulch. 555 00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: Wow, that was really well said. I like that well done, 556 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,039 and I agree with you one hundred percent. Let me 557 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,359 just add one thing. I got to the point, Stacy 558 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,480 where I started to use shredded hardwood mulch, so it's 559 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:44,160 not dyed. It's dark, and they shred the daylights out 560 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,279 of it, so it almost has this compost like texture 561 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,640 to it, and it really solved the problem for me. 562 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:55,440 So really good shredded hardwood mulch that does not have diet. Okay, 563 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880 good to know that's the route I've gone. Deb Wright's 564 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,240 my proven winter strong box holly of peers to have fungus. 565 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,039 It looked very healthy for the last two years, but 566 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:06,559 this week when I saw the fungus, I pruned off 567 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680 a lot of the black spot. I sprayed it with 568 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,599 a fungicide. I cleaned up the area underneath so there's 569 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,599 no leaves left behind, and then sprinkled some boxwood fertilizer 570 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,200 around the drip line. Do you think it has a chance? 571 00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:24,960 Deb is writing to us from Holland, Michigan' Zone six feek. 572 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,799 Speaker 2: Just down the road. Yeah, so believe it or not, 573 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,359 what you are seeing on your strong box holly is 574 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:38,839 actually winter damage. So the sorry, the inkberry hollies are 575 00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:41,759 pretty susceptible to winter damage, I mean boxwood. So we're 576 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,279 selling these primarily as a boxwood alternative for people who 577 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,759 don't like boxwood because of the odor, or people who 578 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,640 want to plant something native instead of boxwood, or people 579 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,440 who have had issues with boxwood disease. So it looks 580 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,799 like boxwood, but it's a North American native shrub, but 581 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,480 it's not, you know, a perfect substitute. It does have 582 00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,640 some issues. It's certainly not as your resists in his 583 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,880 box would and even the boxwood can also get some 584 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,599 fungal diseases. It does because it's native, of course, it's 585 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,160 more susceptible to various diseases you know, that are present 586 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:16,440 in our soils in our areas. But it is actually 587 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,920 winter damage. So those blackened spots that you are seeing 588 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,720 is actually cold damage and it happened over winter. And 589 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,119 that's why the new growth on your pictures DA does 590 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,119 not show any of those signs because usually when you 591 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:32,240 have a fungal infection, that new growth starts showing signs 592 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,160 of it pretty quickly. So no worries about what you've done. 593 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,559 That's totally fine. If anyone else has an inkberry holly 594 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,200 that is showing these kind of amorphous black spots, so 595 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 not the typical like ring spot that you see for 596 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,519 most fungal diseases, not even like a rose black spot. 597 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,319 It looks very distinctive on the inkberry hollies. It is 598 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,720 cold damage. And what will happen as the plant starts 599 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,200 to grow, it will drop that foliage because it is 600 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,759 not as effective at photosynthesizing as fresh foliage would be, 601 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,119 and it will push out new growth to replace that. 602 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,559 So there's nothing wrong with what you've done. That's totally fine. 603 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480 It was a great idea to fertilize it. That will 604 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,759 help it. But I think the reason that you're seeing 605 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,079 that now as opposed to the previous two years when 606 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,680 you've had this plant, because we just got out of 607 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,559 a heck of a winter, as you just said. But 608 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,000 la are certainly not the only thing it's impacting. I've 609 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:29,000 seen damage on Arborvity's rhododener I mean just there's so 610 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,400 many things that got damaged with how cold it was 611 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160 for how long. So that's why you're seeing that this year. 612 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680 But not to worry, you haven't caused any harm and 613 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,720 any remaining bits that you didn't get. As the season 614 00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:44,720 continues to warm up and the days continue to get longer, 615 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,039 new growth will come and replace that and you'll be 616 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,319 good as new bench. All right, we're going to take 617 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,359 a little break. When we come back, we're going to 618 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200 be talking more about what plants are new in garden 619 00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:04,599 centers this year, so please stay tuned. Thanks for listening 620 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,279 to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, brought to you by Proven 621 00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,440 Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering shrubs and 622 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,680 evergreens are trialed and tested by experts with your success 623 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,359 in mind. Learn more at Proven Winners color Choice dot com. 624 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, Stacey. There are 625 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000 so many plants for folks to ask for at garden 626 00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:28,920 centers this spring. New plants, great new plants, perennials like 627 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:36,440 Nepetta lemon perfection, beautiful yellow foliage and blue flowers. The 628 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,200 flowers last for a long time, a continuous bloomer. Nepeta 629 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Catwalk Queen is another great plant. You mentioned the Treasure 630 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,319 Trove and a lot of people are going to have 631 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:55,240 interest too. In the Dolce Sultry Night Hucara ruffled purple 632 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,920 black leaves. What a great plant. 633 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for ruffled hugres. Yeah, I love them. 634 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,200 I mean I can't grow you grow so but I 635 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,680 love seeing him in the garden center. 636 00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: I do too. But the great thing about them is 637 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,079 you can use It's a compact plant, so you can 638 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:11,639 use it in container plants. 639 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: I could grow it in containers. Yeah, and you know what, 640 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,800 that's a great point. If you can't find the right 641 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440 foliage in the annual section of your garden center, just 642 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,559 go to the perennial section. 643 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And here's a great one, Spigelia. I think 644 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:26,760 I'm pronouncing that right. 645 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: Spigelia, I say spigelia. 646 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: But spigelia, either of the two orange slices, so beautiful. 647 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,039 Did anybody say hummingbirds? Sun or shade, although you're gonna 648 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,920 want it in the sun in my opinion, but it 649 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,920 can handle sun or shade and a lot of moisture. 650 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: Though, yes, if you have it in the sun, it 651 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,119 needs pretty moist soil. 652 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: But you know, great for attracting pollinators. And many people 653 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,280 also interested in this plant because it is native to 654 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,800 the United States, Eastern and midwestern United States. So that's 655 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:08,320 that's pretty cool too. Let's see delphinium violets are blue. 656 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,360 A lot of people interested in delphiniums perfect for cottage gardens. 657 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:21,239 But these new varieties like proven winners. Delphinium violets are blue. 658 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Staking is still recommended, you know, because you're gonna have 659 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:29,760 some inclement weather now and then, but really stands up 660 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,519 to it, you know. So it's well, you look at 661 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:36,519 the botanical name, it's Delphinium elatum, and I looked up 662 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,920 elatum is a Latin adjective meaning elevated, raised, or exalted. 663 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,519 So it's an upright plant but really stands up nicely 664 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,159 in the garden compared to let's say, the older varieties 665 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,840 of delphiniums that we're familiar. 666 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,679 Speaker 2: And probably more perennial too, which I know that's kind 667 00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:58,960 of a strange charm to say something is more perennial, 668 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:02,920 But especially older varieties, we're just not that perennial. You know. 669 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000 You get a year, two, three years out of them 670 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,639 and then they would just peter out, especially for Delphinium, 671 00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,280 so you're constantly having to get new ones. So really 672 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,039 working on increasing the perennialness of delphinium as well as 673 00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,360 the stem strength. And I mean, who can resist a 674 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,679 delphinium exactly? 675 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,679 Speaker 1: We love delphiniums. Hearts on fire, old fashioned bleeding heart, 676 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:28,840 just bright golden yellow foliage with true red heart flowers. 677 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,280 I like this plant, and the other thing that I 678 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,119 love about the plant is it's great for our friends 679 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,920 up in Canada or Minnesota hardy to zone three. Raised 680 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,519 for days Heliopsis double flowering fallse sunflower with double yellow blossoms. 681 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:49,559 They almost look like Zenia's. What a great plant, especially 682 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,599 if you like to bring cut flowers inside the house. 683 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,320 Rais for days Heliopsis. And then a plant that isn't 684 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,480 used much in the landscape, but barren wart or Epimedium 685 00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,199 uh hugs and kisses. And I think the plant is 686 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,039 notable because number one, it has interesting flowers, but number two, 687 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,239 it's great for dry shade, and dry shade is a 688 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,599 condition that a lot of people struggle right now. 689 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,039 Speaker 2: Do you have ep medium in your garden? 690 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: I do not. You don't, I don't. 691 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,199 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you mentioned it. These are the 692 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:24,960 first proven winners epimedium, so that is very special. Epimedium 693 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,760 is a great plant. And even though it is closely 694 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,440 related to barbary, I still like it. I love it, 695 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,719 and they're evergreen perennials. They make a great groundcover. They 696 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,679 do thrive in the shade. Although they need some help 697 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,639 getting established, they definitely benefit from some water as they're 698 00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,719 getting established as young plants. Once they're established, they're fine. 699 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: Now. 700 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,519 Speaker 2: I do want to say, as someone who was fussing 701 00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:51,800 with my epimediums over the past weekend, if it's not 702 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,039 too late for you and you're in a cool climate, 703 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,480 cut back the old foliage of your epimediums now. Don't 704 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,519 wait until the new stuff starts to you emerge, because 705 00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,599 it's very tricky to kind of be in there and 706 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,199 separating the old growth from the new growth. So you 707 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,360 want to get them out before the new groth starts 708 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,679 to emerge. It probably starts sooner than you think. It 709 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960 started sooner than I thought. And yeah, and then once 710 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,440 you're in there, you know, trying to prune out the 711 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,119 old leaves, the evergreen foliage from last year. It's really 712 00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:22,840 easy to cut into that new growth. And if you 713 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,039 do that, that's it. You lost that new growth for 714 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,840 the year, So no flowers, no foliage from that. So 715 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000 that's the only drawback that they have. I am crazy 716 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,519 about epimediums. They're so so pretty, they're deer resistant, and 717 00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,159 I'm just so excited that we have finally have some 718 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,519 that are good enough to be in the proven winner's line. 719 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: Just made a note of it. Stacey suggests I have 720 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,519 epimedium in my yard. I think I may try that, 721 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,199 thank you. Of course, as far as flowering annuals are concerned, 722 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,320 every year there's all kinds of new productions. This year 723 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,480 is no exception. Super Bell's Magic Grapefruit calibri CoA. This 724 00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,800 is a plant caliber, in my opinion, are best for containers, 725 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,760 not in ground planting. But what a cool plant. It's 726 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,719 a color shifting calibricoa. So it opens lemon yellow, then 727 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,639 takes on soft pink tones as it basts in the 728 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,239 summer sun. Of course, there's always new Supertunias. There's Supertunia 729 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,440 Mini vista, pink cloud this is. This plant has really neat, 730 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,880 uniquely ruffled petals that have a color that I would 731 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,199 describe as cotton candy with a white eye. Great plant, 732 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,159 sweet caroline, sweet heart shadows storm. This is a chartreuse 733 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:44,440 and black. I'm gonna call it variegated foliage on a 734 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,800 potato vine. That's a cool plant. 735 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to that, like you bet. 736 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: Southern Blaze, bright pink flocks. It's a pollinator friendly native 737 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,599 oar with Texan roots, so it shows you by the 738 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,159 name Southern Blaze bright pink flocks. Here's a plant that 739 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,280 can handle the heat for you this summer. 740 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people would be surprised 741 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,840 to think of flocks as an animal, because of course, 742 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,440 you know, for those of us in cold climates, we 743 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,119 grow flocks as a perennial. This is you know said 744 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,360 it's from Texas, so it's a tender flocks that you 745 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,880 can grow and it should bloom all season long. So 746 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,760 a little bit of a different take on flocks. 747 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: You bet, both of us love kalladiums and the hard 748 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,639 to heart kalladiums. They have a crem brew lay Ooh, 749 00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:31,760 now this one makes me hungry, torched caramelized hardened sugar 750 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,239 rush coming on. Yeah, hmm, crembrew lay and hard to 751 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:42,920 heart midnight oil. Unusual kalladium because it has strap like 752 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:50,000 kind of roughly foliage that blends deep green red tones. 753 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,079 I don't know, it's hard to describe undulating type margins. 754 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:56,519 I don't know. It's just it is a cool plant. 755 00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:58,920 Hard to heart midnight oil. 756 00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:01,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have definitely not seen anything quite like it 757 00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:02,639 in the kalladium world. 758 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,039 Speaker 1: Lots of people have enjoyed jazzberry Supertunia's Well, now we 759 00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:11,559 have Supertunia Vista cool Jazz. So if you liked Jazzberry, 760 00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,800 try cool jazz. This plant has a lot of promise. 761 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:21,440 And the Laguna Royale series of Lobilia. Again, as I mentioned, 762 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,800 I've been in the garden center industry for a long time, 763 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,800 and people love lobilia in April and May when the 764 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,039 temperatures are coolish, and then the heat of summer. 765 00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:34,159 Speaker 2: It's like year by by what happens to my lobilia. 766 00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: And proven Winters has developed the Laguna Royale series of 767 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,840 lobilia that is far more heat tolerant. So what a 768 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,320 great place. 769 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really changes the way that you can use 770 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,840 loubilia in the landscape. Now, if you live in a 771 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400 really hot climate, it's still gonna peter out. You know 772 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:55,400 that it is still a cool climate annual or cool 773 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920 season annual. But for those of us, even in Michigan, 774 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,440 for the most part, they will bloom all summer long 775 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,000 unless we have, you know, extremely hot weather. But and 776 00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,519 it's just that color is so there's nothing like it. 777 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful. And they have a lilac a 778 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,760 laguna royale, a beautiful, beautiful plant. Let's take a look here. 779 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,920 Few more to share with you. I'm excited about super 780 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,320 Lofus sunglow onethra. Talk about a drought and heat tolerant plant. 781 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,960 It's basically Texas primrose is what I like to call it. 782 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,480 It's derived from a native Texan species. I mean, this 783 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,280 is a plant stacy that can handle one hundred degree weather. 784 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and big open, sunny yellow flowers. So if yellow 785 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,559 is your thing in the garden, it's going to be 786 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,199 hard to beat this one, that is for sure. 787 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: This one's for you. Ask for it at your garden center. 788 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,119 Surefire cascade red begonias, great for trailing and hanging baskets 789 00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,360 or upright containers. And then I'm going to wrap it 790 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,599 right here, Stacy with the one that I have difficulty pronouncing, 791 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,679 and so I'm glad you're sitting right next to me. 792 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: It's a mouthful, So sorry, Lava flow James Britannia. 793 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:11,119 Speaker 1: Thank you. You say it so much better than It's 794 00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,000 a stay different every time. 795 00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: It's a very unusual name. It's literally James Britton. I 796 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,920 a at the end, But like it's like someone's name 797 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,679 was James Britton and then they said James Bretenna. So yeah, 798 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,960 a newish plant. I think the name could use a 799 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,000 little marketing campaign there. But very cool. Just it's a 800 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,119 little bit like a super colorful but copa. 801 00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:37,599 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like the copa but heardier, a better filler 802 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,360 spiller than the old fashioned be copa and very humidity, 803 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,360 heat tolerant. Just just a great. 804 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 2: Great color too. I love the color on these. 805 00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:50,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to use it in my containers this year. 806 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,079 And then when somebody walks through my garden and say, 807 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,400 what is that plant, I'm gonna hand them your phone. 808 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you could do that. 809 00:43:57,679 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: Stacy has been fun and it's been super fun. 810 00:43:59,760 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: Thanks. 811 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting out into the garden center 812 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,480 this year and filling up my shopping cart. Thank you, Adriana, 813 00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:12,280 and thanks to you for watching us on YouTube, downloading 814 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,159 the podcast, or listening to the radio version of The 815 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,679 Gardening Simplified Show. Have a great week.