Speaker 1: Pete, good to see you. Things are coming back.
Speaker 2: Mike, what's happening man?
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking offline and you were saying,
you know, sometimes things get heavy, and both of us
were sharing our stories of doing this, you know, independently,
which you've been doing longer than I have. And I
don't know about you, but people will say, you know,
when I do the other day, They're like, is that
all you do for a living? And I'm like, yeah,
and I get that. They can't grasp that, Like they
think that you just sit around all day and do nothing,
and like, but I work all the time. You work
all the time, and this stuff gets it gets very
very heavy, And I don't know. I people, I don't
think they understand the stuff that we're talking about, the
stuff we're reading, watching, listening. It takes a toll on you.
Speaker 2: I mean I probably record twenty twenty five hours a week.
I do all my own editing. That's another twenty hours
twenty five hours, then all the reading I have to
do for it. You know. One of the things that
most people don't take into consideration is and I think
a lot of people are I'm a different person than
other people. When I watch horrific stuff that's happening around
the world, like the stuff that happened in Gaza, especially
when it was at its height. I would force myself
to watch those videos, and that's not something that, yeah,
I think most people should be watching. And you know,
my wife knows how I get after I watch those
videos where I have to be left alone and I
have to, you know, I have to just deal with it.
And you know, I watch that stuff so that I
watch some of the worst stuff in the world and
read about some of the worst things that have ever happened,
because I have to be able to convey and war,
you know, convey that message that this is the world
we live in and warn people about it. And I
want to know as much about it as possible. And
I'm not one of these I've never been I was
never in the military, so I've never been to war.
I have seen somebody die in front of me from
an accident, getting hit by a bus. I was very
young when that happened. But you know, for the most part,
I'm not dealing in death. And when you start doing
what we do, you start dealing in death, and to
ignore it is kind of impossible. If you want to
be honest with people, and you want to be I
don't consider myself a journalist during newscaster or anything. I
consider myself just more of a I guess at this
point a storyteller, and you have to be able to
tell stories that are absolutely insane and horrible. So yeah,
you know, we we need to if you do what
we do, you need to shut it off every once
in a while, and I'll shut it off for days
on end. That's why normally when my substack, people will
get a get a message that I'm not going to
be putting anything like doing my substack messages because outside
of putting episodes on substack, that people can you know,
hear my stuff, you know, without without ads and without
even introductions and everything. It's just the conversation I put
I record messages, and every once in a while, I
just have to if you if I get a mess
if you get a message through subsact saying hey, I'm
not going to be recording anything, I need to shut
it down for a few days. And it's also really
hard for me to shut it down because it's like,
you know, I'm not going to do anything, you know,
I don't want to sit there and try and drink
it away, because you know that that doesn't help it
at all. So you know, you try to just occupy
yourself with like me stuff around the house, or you know,
try to get together with friends. Yeah, I mean, this
is I'm lucky enough that this will be in July,
will be my third year of doing this full time.
And I do that at the pleasure of the people
who send me money to do it every month, and
I consider myself to be working for them. But even so,
you still need to take a vacation. Even though this
is what I do, this is what I've come to
believe that I was created to do. But you know,
you still have to be able to shut it down
every once in a while or else it will consume you.
And if usually when you see me, if I get
on some shows and I start screaming, or if I'm
screaming on my my substack morning message, yeah I need
to take a break because it's not normally normally what
I do. You know, it's and I can scream for
hyperbole's sake, but sometimes I'm being really serious and everything,
and then it's like, okay, time can take a break
for a few days and just disconnect from this and
maybe pick up a book that doesn't have stuff in
it that's so horrifying that you know, you're you want
to you feel like you have to talk about it.
So yeah, I mean that's that's basically what it is is.
You know, you have to you have to shut it
off every once in a while. You know, I listen
to I don't listen to every one of your episodes,
but I listen to a lot of them, and I mean,
I can you know you talk about a lot of
subjects too that you probably can bother you and you
want to shut down and run away from for at
least a little while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Gonzala Alira's name has been circulating around
again for the last couple of days. And I don't
even know if I told you this. The last podcast
he did was on my show back in April twenty three,
and you know, I didn't know at the time. We
recorded on a Saturday, and I talked to him for
like an hour and forty five minutes, and then that
Monday morning, I published it and I was like, that's weird,
he's not retweeting it. And I saw later in the
afternoon that I don't know Sitizan Free Press or zero
headge or something that he had been arrested and I
saw the video of you know, the Ukrainian whatever the
hell they are, with their long rifles and him being cuffed,
and that was it. I know, he got out for
a brief stint, but yeah, he the last interview he
did was on my show, and I've referenced that a lot,
where you know, they killed you know, he died. I
mean we left him the United States, we left him
in there, and you know, the Krainian, the Ukrainian government
killed him. And I mean talking about right now, I'm
just I can't believe it. And if you don't think
that has an effect on you, it's like people don't
don't understand like what what's going on in the world
and how you know, just some of the horrible things
that come along with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard for me to see people promoting, like
defending and saying that Ukraine are the victims when I
know what what a murderous regime that is. You know,
we have a murderous regime. You know, we've had a
murderous regime here for eighty years, but you know, we
haven't oh, you know, if we had a well think
about this way, so we have all these enclaves of Mexicans,
you know, California, Texas, all throughout the country. Really yeah,
if we just if we have like a a state
sponsored militia that just started bombing and killing thousands of
them on American soil, I mean, would we be the
good Would we be the good guys when it would
be just easy, is easy enough to just go in
there if you want to get rid of them and
put them on a bus or a train and get
rid of you know, and get them out of the country.
Would we be the good guys if we, you know,
we sponsored just a mass slaughter of fourteen, you know
anywhere between. I've heard numbers fourteen to thirty thousand, you know,
ethnic Russians in your you know, in Ukraine, which arguably
isn't even a real country. So you know, the whole
Ukraine thing, the whole NAFO op online. I really yeah,
I've really come to believe that there are people that
just need to be made examples of because Ukraine is
bad enough. I mean, they their sons are being kidnapped.
Ukrainian sons are being kidnapped off the streets and sent
to the front to die, while their parents try to
go to church and are beaten up for going to
the wrong church, and they're told if they want to
go to church, they have to go to the church
to Victoria Newland founded in twenty fourteen, which is just
a state sponsored church of the of the American you know,
the Judeo American Empire's regime. And yeah, so I remember
when Gonzalo, when it came out that he died. That
was you know, they are Americans who are still still
defending that, still defending Ukraine, still sank calling them a democracy,
still saying Zelenski's a hero. Now, if you're ignorant, then
you're doing that. It's one thing if you know the truth,
if I tell you the truth, and everything that just
came out of my mouth is truth, and you still
support them. You know, we have to remember that the
founders of this country talked about enemies feign in domestic,
and we have a lot that are domestic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should say I should send you that conversation, man,
because you when you listen to it now and you
and you hear them, it's just so disturbing knowing that
two days later he was gone, arrested, I mean not dead,
but and just some of the things he said, and
just you know, not leaving Ukraine, and I don't know,
even just talking about it right now, it's just like
kind of bringing it all back and you're just like fuck, like.
Speaker 2: Well if it I mean, you know, not to do
the whole boomer thing of imagine if the roles are reversed.
But if it had been Russia, you know, we have
people that get people. We have American citizens who go
into Russia and break their laws and they get thrown
in jail, and we're and they're horrified, and people and
Americans are outraged. An American goes over to Ukraine to
try to expose the truth what's really going on, and
the regime there, you know, kidnaps them and doesn't even
throw them in jail, just kills them, not a peep,
not a peep. Yeah, I mean, I really at this point,
I'm if Zelenski were to go out, I would like
to see Zelenski go out the way Kadafi did. Yeah,
that would be It wouldn't make everything better, but it
would be somewhat satisfying.
Speaker 1: Isn't he supposed to be going to DC on Friday.
That was a rumor circulating around is he. I haven't
heard that one now, yea, Trump was talking about that
because I don't know how close they are to get
this thing resolved. You don't know, you know, it's always
been the story. You don't know what to believe what
you're reading right now. But I mean, I've seen indicators
that you know, the Ukraine is going to sign over
the minerals, but yet Trump was still talking about providing
them money and equipment for what they need. But then
there's talks of possibly a ceasefire. But I don't know
how close that is.
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to know. And I think if the
reason why the signals are distorted is on purpose, I
think that's a good thing. You don't want to telegraph
to certain people what exactly is happening. The whole mineral
the whole minerals thing is hilarious to me because it's
like those are raw, they're still in earth. I mean,
I've read numbers saying that whatever number is being thrown around,
consider it to be about thirteen percent because eighty seven
percent will go towards the labor and machinery and getting
that out of the ground. So if you hear, you know,
a trillion dollars worth, it's really like one hundred and
thirty billion dollars worth. So yeah, I don't know what's
going on there. It may just be one of those
really weird Trump negotiating tactics, and yeah, I don't know.
It's hard to know what to believe. I mean, yeah,
I had I saw one account saying that the war
was over yesterday, that Zelenski had agreed to all of
the uh Zelenski Putin agrees to all the things. Well,
I mean, I don't know, I don't know what's a belief,
but yeah, I mean, I just want the thing to
be over. It's just so stupid. And you know, knowing
that it was basically started and orchestrated because ethnic groups
in this country who have who have historic ties to
Ukraine and Russia hate Ukrainians and Russians and want to
see them kill each other, Well they got their wish,
you know. So you know, hopefully one day those people
will pay, you know, be brought to justice. To the
Victoria Newlands and the Robert Kagan's and the Alexander Vinman's
of the world, These people. They also need justice. They
they you know, and I'm not talking about I'm talking
about on trial and sense of Gimo. You know that
I'll be they can serve Gitmo for the rest of
their lives. I'll be happy with that.
Speaker 1: You and I haven't spoken since the Enda last year.
You know, what are your thoughts on what we've seen
so far with Trump in this new administration.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a lot of what we you know,
what people like myself and Tom Lawango and you know,
Matt Erickson and you know, some others thought was going
to happen. At least we were hopeful that it was
going to happen, was that there was going to be,
you know, an attack on the administrative state. Now, I
think that you can take down the administrative state in
a month, but you're going to have to have the
will to do things that I'm not talking about killing people.
I'm talking about just basically going full bore and eliminating departments,
firing people. And I think they're just going too slow
with what they're doing. If I had any kind of
any kind of critique at all, they need to imphds, judges,
fire them, do whatever they do. You can go ahead
and read what bou Kelly did in l Salvador when
it came to the judges. Yeah, he wasn't going to
put up with that. And you just got rid of them.
I mean he pulled them off the bench and sent
them packing. That what it needs to be done here,
and maybe that is maybe this is maybe you just
can't do all this at once. Maybe it's really hard
to do a lot of the things that you want
to do at once, and you're getting all your your
ducks in a row. This is what the nineteen year
old autists with laptops and AI are doing. They're coming
through and finding, you know, finding the skeletons, finding the numbers.
But you know, I mean, if if Trump would have
pardoned the j six prisoners, and you know when after usaid,
that would be more than most people would have thought
that he would have ever accomplished or or ever would
have done. So at this point, I think, I think
anything that happens after this is a win as far
as scaling back government. I was listening to the press
conference he did at his cabinet meeting today, and Musk
said that the goal was to cut four billion a
day from the deficit to make it one trillion by
the mid terms. I mean, if he's able to do that,
that's a lot. But you know, you also have to
start looking at the budget. You also have to start
looking at generating income, which I think that's what the
Sovereign Wealth Fund is about. A lot of gold seems
to be pouring into the United States. The City of
London seems to be Tom Luongo, you know, according to
him who he's the City of London expert, they're floundering
right now and they would be our chief enemy when
it comes to finance and a lot of other things.
They're also what keeps Israel afloat more than more so
than us actually, And so yeah, I think good things
are happening. They're just not happening fast enough for most people.
But you know, when I you know, I'm not an
expert on like an economic and administrative state, Cupdeta on
how you would I've read the book Kudeta by look
walk read it on my show. I know what a
kudeta looks like from a certain aspect. But this is
something that we haven't seen before, because you know, this
isn't we're not talking about, you know, Sierra Leone. We're
talking about, you know, the United States, the biggest bureaucracy
of all time. So I'm hopeful in a lot of
the rhetoric I've heard and a lot of the stuff
that I've seen happen, I think something that a lot
of people aren't taking to consideration because they don't pay
attention to local and state politics is here in Alabama,
I'm seeing, you know, the shit lib rags crying because
you know, state and local positions are being eliminated. Why,
well why is that? Well, apparently they're they're being funded federally.
Well they're going away. And so you know when people
are like, not enough is happening for me, then you know,
take into consideration. There's a lot you're probably not seeing.
It's like with the deportations. I know Eric Eric Prince's
offered to have a deport I think he said fifteen
million by the mid terms for twenty five billion, you know,
for a payment of twenty five billion dollars. But I
also think that they're from things that I've heard from
multiple regions of the country. The amount of self deportations
that's happening is pretty remarkable too. People are just picking
up leaving. So yeah, I don't, I don't know. I
think that I'm happy, and I'm I didn't think. I
thought there was a chance we could see a lot
of what was happening happen and being called for and
being moved upon. But I'm happy to see a lot
of it's happening. A lot of it is happening. But
I mean, I think I know that there's people out
there too that are either not going to be happy
with anything but the perfect and are always going to
see an ulterior motive. And you know, a surveillance state
is coming in, a panopticon is coming in. They keep Whitney,
you know, keep people donating money to Whitney Web.
Speaker 1: I uh, yeah, I mean I never thought. I mean, well,
you and I spoke about it. I didn't think you would win,
and I was I didn't. I mean, you know, oh,
I know we've talked about this yet. And I apologize
every listener that emailed me asking for you know, I mean,
say it again. I was wrong. I was wrong. Don't
listen to me. Listen to the guests, the guests I
have on it, don't listen to me.
Speaker 2: Those of us, those of us who were saying he
was going to win, and not only that he was
going to win, that we would know.
Speaker 1: You called it early, You called it really early, that.
Speaker 2: You would know that night before you went to sleep.
And I think we knew at three o'clock in the morning.
So and I was still awake because we were live streaming.
And those of us who said that he was gonna,
you know, go after USA, you know, go after a
lot of these deep state institute institutions, in the back
of our mind, we're going this ain't going to happen,
you know, but we you weigh it. So it's like, Okay,
I thought sixty percent it was going to happen, forty
percent it's not going to happen. But I don't like
to be one of those people who's like, I think
it's going to happen, but you know it's shoulder, get
off the pot, you know, take a take a take
a stand every once in a while and make a
make a prediction, and you know you have the mayor
culplos are fine. You can just you know, hey, I'm
sorry I was wrong on this one. I've been wrong
on a lot. I mean, I've you know, whatever, I'm
human at least I'm willing to take take take a
stand and say this is what I want, and this
is what I think is going to happen, or this
is what I hope is going to happen. A lot
of people don't even want to hear you. A lot
of people will like malign you for saying that you
have hope that something is going to happen. Oh, how
can you have hope. That's not hope, that's cope. Okay, Well,
I mean that's fine, but my life is My life
is fine. And you know, a lot of the predictions
we started making back in the beginning of last year,
especially around January of twenty twenty four, have come true.
And I think it's only because we're a few of
us were trying to come at this from a standpoint
of complete neutrality. Now, when you're trying to figure out
what's coming, what's coming, you have to be able to
put aside your biases, put aside your ideology, if you
have personal ideology, if you have political ideology, if you
put it aside, which is what most people can't do,
especially like the mainstream media, is why the mainstream media
is dying. You put aside your ideology and you just
look at the facts and you're like, Okay, what am
I seeing? What am I seeing? Okay? And when I'm
looking at something and I'm looking at the people who
are backing Trump and the people who are saying we're
going to support Trump, if I throw away all of
the conspiracy shit that you can come up with, when
you're like, holy crap, that person works in tech, that
means that AI is gonna he wants to put a
chip in our brain or AI. And if you can
put all that stuff aside and just look at what
reality is or what's in front of your eyes, you
can you can see things that are you can actually
predict reality. The problem is that people are so swamped
in ideology, in their own ideology that they they allow
that to basically possess them, and then it's hard to
look at the actual reality that's happening. And where you
can take pieces of evidence from here and there and there,
and you put them together and you're like, huh, looks
like this is what's going to happen. I'm not saying
that this is the greatest thing in the world that's
going to happen. I'm not even gonna say it's going
to benefit you. But this is what's going to happen.
And it's really weird that now when you report on
the world or you do a commentary on the world
that way, people are like, oh, you want that to happen.
I'm like, let's say I wanted that to happen. I'm
just saying that's what's happening. And because people have been
basically brainwashed into being so ideological that you have to
have an ideology, you know, and this is the work
of James Burnham and Sam Francis Is ideology doesn't matter
to people in power. Yes, they have an ideology, but
they can change it if they see things, if they
see something's not working, they'll just discard it. Ideology keeps
people blind and it keeps people miserable too. I mean
I see people online that are like, well, we're not
getting everything we want out of Trump. Okay, Well we're
not going to be happy until we get everything. Okay,
Then you're a child. You just said you're not going
to be happy until you get everything that you want. Well,
that's true. You're just calling me names. No, you're acting
like a petulant child. And you're also showing a certain ignorance.
In politics, nobody ever gets everything they want. There are
negotiations going on right now. Putin is not going to
get everything he wants. Donald Trump's not going to get
everything he wants. Israel is not going to get They
all operate on the with the framework that you're not
going to get everything you want. But then someone on Twitter,
you know, who's too scared to use their real name
is gonna is going to be telling you and I'm
not telling you have to dos yourself. I understand that,
you know, people want to want to stay safe, and
I believe me. I understand that, But I mean, you're
you're who are you to say that you only I'm
only gonna get okay, Rapegraper fourteen, you're gonna you You
demand to get everything you want. Okay. So you're a child,
And when I call you a child, you're like, oh, well,
you're just that's just name calling. But you're acting like
a child. Children are the only people who think they're
going to get everything that they want, or grifters. That's
what I figured out a long time ago. The word
grifter only applies to a certain group. It applies to
a certain group that is advertising something that will never materialize,
like your perfect political ideology, your perfect situation. And if
you have a person who is doing that, and they are,
they're saying, this is the only way we're going to
be able to survive. You know, you have to destroy
the Christian Church. That's the only way you're going to
get The only thing that's keeping Jewish power going is
to Christian Church. So we have to destroy Christianity. The
person who's telling you that is a grifter, because that's
never going to happen. The person who's telling you everything
will be perfect as long as we destroy the government.
The government is the source of all of our ills.
The only way we can have anything good in this
world is we have to get rid of the government.
We have to convince people that we have to get
rid of the government and live in anarchy. That's a grifter.
These are the grit that's how you that's how you
notice a grifter. And these are the people that you
know watching seeing what Trump's doing. And like I said,
I would like to see things go faster, But I'm
not on the inside either. I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what's going on in his inner circle.
I don't know what the plans. You know, I don't
know what the plan. I don't know what the plan is,
so I can trust a plan bro So. But yeah,
well there's my rant for that. There's my rant for
the show.
Speaker 1: Michael Pete, you're acting like a child. You want thing
to go faster.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I'm acting like a child. I'm
saying you have to live in the real world and
be completely realistic and not actly and not expect to
get everything you want. And I'm acting like a child.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm surprised that you let it get
you let it get that far with an X posting.
If somebody's posting that to you, usually you just block
those people.
Speaker 2: I don't even really they don't even really post it
to me anymore. I just see it. You just witness it.
You know. Have you ever come across maybe you're not
because you're you're a really nice guy, but you come
across people, people you've never like interacted with before, who've
blocked you. Well, the reason they've blocked you is because
like this happens all the time. I'll come across an
account and they blocked me, and I'm like, I have
no idea who this person is. They're not on my
side of Twitter, I don't. They've seen me interacting with
somebody and they've just decided to block me. I've done
that too. I've done that with people too. I see
the way they're interacting, and I see the conversation they're having,
and I see the way their words are, and I'm like,
this person has nothing for me, And actually, I want
to make sure I don't interact with them ever so
that it's not exposing it to my people because it
might be so cancerous. So I'll just like preemptively block them.
But you know, mostly it's I see these conversations happening
on happening on Twitter where it's like we have to
get everything we want or else we're not going to
be happy. And I'm just like, all right, well, you're
a child, and I don't want anything to do with you.
To block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the most criticism I'm getting is if
my language, if I'm swearing, which I think is funny.
It's hilarious to me.
Speaker 2: That happens every once in a while with me too,
And you know, I understand it. But yeah, I'm I
grew up in New York and we'll use the F
word as a comma. I mean, so it just comes
out every once in a while and people like, well,
aren't you just supposed to be a Christian. It's like
I'm also human. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: I read an email that I got and there was
you know, the word fuck was in it a couple
of times, and I said it because I was quoting
the email, and you know, somebody was like, did you
really need to use the lay I'm like, you know what,
I've just I've had it with this type of I mean,
I don't run a Disney show here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have former Navy seals on, you
have people you know who, I mean these swearing as
a commodity to them. Yeah, it's a currency to them.
It's something that they use. I'm not going to shut
people up, you know. I have I have an episode
with the comedian Leonardo Joanie coming out, and I mean,
she's just a foul mouth person for woman from the Bronx,
Like I'm a foul mouth dude from the Bronx too,
and she like was. I noticed when we started talking
she was curbing. She went to say fuck and she
stopped and I'm like, oh, no, you can say that
I'm not. I have a rule that you come into
my house, you follow my rules. I'm not going to
ask someone to be something that they're not. I invited
them on for a reason because I know what they are.
I'm not going to ask somebody to be something different. Yeah.
She uh.
Speaker 1: I just discovered her through through you and listening to
some of her stuff. She's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's hilarious, you know. And the reason she's hilarious
is because she's she's honest, you know. And that's something
that something that I brought up with her was that
it seems like comedy in the last ten years has
been about getting applause and not laughs. Oh stunning and brave.
Oh my god, that comedian said something so stunning and
brave about trans people needings to be protected from evil
Nazis that are roaming the countryside and everything like that.
It's like, I mean, I want to laugh, you know,
I mean, I don't. I don't want to be insulted.
I don't want to be preached at for my comedy.
If I put a comedian on, I want to laugh,
you know. I mean, there can be some political in there,
but you know, I appreciate the political political comedy that
shows the absurdity of politics, you know, not where you're
just like, you know, like what Bill Burder's turned into
that that cuck. He's always been sort of a shit lib.
But you know, at least he was funny. At least
he could be at least he could be funny, and
you could overlook the you know, the kind of anti
gun stance, you know, anti gun stance he had on
some of his jokes, and even the anti gun jokes
had some humor to them everything. But now he's just
a I mean, I don't consider who his wife is.
Speaker 1: So whatever you think, you think, Hollywood, we'll ever get
back to what it was before all this. I was
just talking about some people about Marvel movie. I didn't
see the New Captain America because I just heard it
was awful, and I read a review they said, even
Harrison Ford can't save this, which is amazing to me.
At eighty two years old, this guy still he must
really need the money that he's still doing all this.
But you know, and like there's a Superman coming out
this summer, and I think I've come to terms with
these movies just aren't made for people my age. Maybe
maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's it's the way there, it's the way they're shot
and put together. So Luongo talks about this, the the
Zack Snyder cut of Justice League. So the Justice League
they came out in the theater was just crap, terrible,
it was pablem So Zack Snyder went in and did
a four hour long cut of his own, and it's amazing.
It's it's amazing, you know. Luongo talks about how there
are these movies are shot to be good, then they
get in the hands of editors and everything, and then
they can turn them into anything. So Zack Snyder's cut
of you know, like of Justice League is really good
if you have four hours. You know, I watched it
over two days, but it's really good. There's there's gonna
be some cringes in there, but not a lot like
The Batman, the Robert Pattinson Batman. There was like two
lines and there it made me cringe. But for the
most part I thought they were pretty good. But DC
is always I always like DC better than Marvel because
DC is just a darker universe and I have a
darker soul, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll go see Superman. I wasn't blown away in
the trailer, but it also I have to take an
account as a trailer So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you don't know what you don't know
what they're doing in a trailer. Man, how many times
have you seen a trailer and then you've gone to
see the movie and there are scenes in the trailer
that aren't in the movie. So yeah, I mean, I
just don't watch a lot of movies anymore. It's not
that I don't want to. There are some movies that
people recommend to me and I'm like, I got to
watch that, but then I just don't have time. And
if I put if I do have the time, it's
late at night. And if I start watching a movie
late at night, fifteen minutes in my eyes are going
to start closing. So that's one of the problems of
getting old.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like somebody said this, Somebody says to me,
I've been saying it. It's almost like we're living in
a DC comic book right now, with these characters that
that Trump's team is formed. Like, well, I'm not saying
that in a negative way, but these people are really
like they're like characters out of a comic book, and
they're all so good on a microphone. They all have
you know, very witty response, not witty, but you know,
they have good mouse on them.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying that this is a good thing,
because I think she was actually the testable person. But
a lot of them are right out of Ann Rand novel,
you know, like these titans of industry that are you know,
all they care about is progress, and you know, and
the bureaucrat is there to stifle them. And yeah, I
mean I see a lot. I see some of that
in the way certain people are being up. As far
as you know, Elon Musk would be an obvious one.
I mean he's not a Howard Roark character or anything
like that, but I mean he's he would sort of
be somebody that Rand may have may have written about,
or someone like that, something like that. Uh uh. Litnick
two is another one who he seems like he's out
of He could be out of a Rand novel. But
that's a little bit more what I see. I think
the really is just how some of the villains that
are being presented or just out of out of comic books, really,
you know, whether it be I mean, look at Dan Crenshaw.
He's got a fucking eyepatch. I mean, how how perfect,
how perfect is that? Then you have Mitch McConnell, who's
a doddering old fool who you know still is somehow
still we old's power. And then you have this whole
thing about you know, who's running the NSA under you know,
under Biden, but a bunch of transfory, pissed party disgusting,
you know, really should be not allowed to be in
public or should be you know, embarrassed to go into
public kind of people. And these are all basically yeah,
and the problem. The only difference is in a lot
of the comic books, at least the villains are somewhat charismatic,
and these people aren't even charismatic. Lex Luthor, I mean,
the first time you saw Superman, the Christophery first Superman,
shean Hackman is Lex Luthor, there had to be a
part of you that was rooting for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even and even not that you would root
for the Joker, but the heath Ledger version, you you
could understand understand the darkness of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're if you like, if you're under twenty
one years old or you've never had a mortgage, you know,
you identify with Batman. You get a little bit older
and you start paying bills and you're like, this joker
guy is making a lot of making a lot of
sense here.
Speaker 1: And that would be both the Heath Ledger and the
Woking Phoenix one for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I much more identify with the Heath
Ledger one because I mean it was just pure nihilism
and being gen X. I mean, what if you're gen X,
what else are you other than just you know, a
closet nihilist of some sort.
Speaker 1: You the way you put it with the villains, you know,
Dan Crenshaw, I mean when you get caught in a
hot mind or wasn't even a hot mike, he said
he was going to shoot Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to kill Tucker. If he met Tucker Carlson,
he'd kill him. Yeah, and Tucker did the right thing. Hey,
come on my show. Yeah, because Crenshaw doesn't mean he's
he's he's he's an impotent fool who's doing the bidding
of other people. He's just a mouthpiece for whoever pays
him and funds him. But yeah, like I was saying,
they're not even charismatic at least, you know, whether it's
mister Freeze or the Penguin or some these are charismatic villains.
You know, we expect the villain to be because if
you live in if you grew up in a comic
book world, you expect the villain to be somewhat, you know, likable.
These people aren't even likable. They're a testable. So it's like,
and it was like Tucker Carlson said years ago about elites.
He's like, I don't mind elites. I just want impressive elites,
even elites that you know you didn't agree with. They
could be somewhat oppressive in the past, impressive in the
past and oppressive, but they could be somewhat impressive in
the past. Now they're just not. There's nothing to there's
nothing to admire about them at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, McConnell, I mean, he can't walk one hundred feet
and he falls or he doesn't know where he's at.
Speaker 2: I mean, Nancy Pelosi, these I mean, these are who
are these people? How did they You really get the
idea that you have to be willing to sell your
soul completely and utterly in order to be able to
get into positions like that. I mean, look at Joe Biden.
I mean I get I have this irrational anger towards
people who blame the last four years on Joe Biden,
but he obviously wasn't in charge. It's like it's like,
I mean, I think Barack Obama probably made some decisions
on his own, but he was another one who was just,
you know, owned by the same people who've owned all
these people. So he seemed to have a be a
little more open about his hostility than in Yahoo. But
you know, he still started, still did the Siria thing
and the surge in Afghanistan. He's just doing what his
people told them to do. Now Donald Trump may be
doing you know, it was I'm not gonna say, maybe
is doing what the people who are around him are
telling him what to do. You just have to hope
that the people who are around him line up with your
values more than the people who have in the past
and the people who are being shut out, and hopefully
I put out a tweet this morning, I said, you know,
defunding these people, defunding the regime apparatchicks is perfectly fine,
but they've been stealing millions and billions for years. They
have war chests, they have money scuirrelled away. You have
to go after them, and you have to take that
away from them. I don't care what that sounds like.
They have to be utterly destroyed. And that starts with
destroying them monetarily and making sure they can never take
power again, because all this work that's being done, even
if you are dismantling the deep state, even if you
see you know, the ATF disappear, or the FBI become
just basically a police force, and or you see the
CIA just whatever, even if they become things that you're
okay with that You're like, okay, that's the amount of
power I think they should have. If Trump loses in
twenty if or Trump's successor loses in twenty twenty eight,
and you get a regime apparatric that comes back into power.
These are people who still have and you haven't taken
away the money that funds them. I mean they're going
to come back with a vengeance. Yeah, And I've taken
to say on some of my substecs, this isn't going
to be like them, like the J six people who
you know, they threw in cells. They're going to kill you,
They're going to kill people, They're going to get revenge
upon people. Remember whoever wrote that speech for Biden that
he's spoke in Philadelphia the three you know, a third
of the country was was semi fascist. That's the way
they think. And with everything they're crying over. Now, do
you think if they ever get power again, that things
are going to be better or probably or equal to
what you saw from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four. Oh,
it's gonna be exponentially worse. And it's going to be
like you know, targeting of targeting of enemies, like on
a Spanish civil war level, where they're just going to
kill people, and for people who don't believe that, they
do not understand what that The ideology that possesses these
people is. You know, this left this someone call it leftism,
but this progressivism, this even this like, I mean, I've
it's a book called demon in Democracy by riz Ard Laguko.
I've read it on my on my show. He shows
just how close communism and liberalism is. I mean, they
are just kissing cousins, these people are, unless they are
utterly destroyed. Now that they can never come back. If
they come back and they have resources and access to
resources and things haven't been completely restructured that they can't
use these resources to their advantage. Again, We're in trouble, man,
We're in trouble.
Speaker 1: You know. That's it feels like we're there's a civil
war going on right now with the elites, right and
I've use this reference F two point zero with Elon
and all the big tech people. But they're trying to
now with Trump, all these executed orders annihilate the other side.
So my question is I asked myself and I'm gonna
ask you the other side right now, do they just
wait this out, stay in the bunker, wait till twenty
eight or how do they respond? Because this will go
back and forth, back and forth until people start dying
in my opinion, So what do they do? They stay
in retreat mode right now because what Trump is doing,
in my opinion, there's such a flurry right now that
the other side they just can't keep up, like they
can't respond, they can't keep up with the pace that
they're moving.
Speaker 2: Well, think about it as a boxing match.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm I've never been a big UFC guy, just because
I haven't been exposed enough to the UFC. But I
mean when I was growing up, I was a big
boxing guy, big boxing guy.
Speaker 1: We've talked about that, right, Yeah, I think so. I
love boxing. I took I used to watch Manpakya train
and I'll tell you all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right's something that yeah, yeah,
but boxing what what is? Yeah, especially when you get
into the into the lighter weights, A lot of it
is just flurry after flurry after flurry, and you're looking
for the not you're looking for your spot, you're looking
for you're wearing them down, wearing them down, or you're
just hitting them. What's so much at once that you're
putting them off balance and you're looking for that one shot.
Hopefully that's what this is. Hopefully this flurry is just
and I think it does in my opinion, they're off
balance right now that the regime apparatrics don't know what
to do because I believe a lot of them have
stored wealth. But yeah, it only goes so far unless
you can control leavers of power to use it. What
I'm hoping is is that this flurry is leading to
a knockout blow. What that knockout blow looks like I'm
not going to venture a guess, because then you can
start getting into fed posting territory and I'm not going
to do that.
Speaker 1: But it's fed posting territory. Peak.
Speaker 2: Fed posting is fed posting is when you if you
ever see people online going, you know what we need
to do is we need to take up arms and
overthrow the government. That that would be like something a
FED would like if you have a group. We'll put
it this way. Say you have a group of people
and you know, you get together and you talk about
politics and you go fishing. Then you have you add
a new guide to the group and the new guys like, hey,
you know what we should do. We should start really
practicing with guns and you know with weapons, and yeah,
that mayor is really giving us a lot of problems.
We should do something about it. The assumption is that
guy's to fed. That guy was sent in there to
infiltrate and to try to get you to commit violence.
And I saying that you know you want this person
dead or that person dead, is like that would be
considered fed posting. Where you're calling for violence or you're
looking for violence, or you're calling people to commit violence.
But the you know, I mean, these people need to pay.
And I'm not saying they need to be killed. I'm
not saying they need they you know, examples need to
be made. You need to have you know, you just
start building gallows. But people need to they you need
to see people frog marched, You need to see people
in front of a judge, and you need to see
people going to jail. And if you're not going to
come completely, go after these people's wealth, completely, tear down
their systems and make sure that you know, you just
target individuals and you're like, this person can never hold
an elected office, they can't start an ng O, they
can't start a nonprofit, they can't even start a company.
Then you know you have to look at how you
go forward because these people they're never going to stop.
It's never going to end. And that's the that's the
one thing that people don't want to hear about politics
is that politics is eternal. That you can never sleep
on it. When you think you've won, that's when you've lost.
Because you're going to sit back, you're going to your
you're going to stop gatekeeping. You're going to think, oh,
you know we need to let some you know, maybe
we need Everything's good now. Look look how flesh we are.
The government's no longer in debt. We have a surplus.
We need to start taking care of people, and we
need to start Let's start an organization to figure out
let's start a government program to figure out how to no.
That's where it's that's where it begins. These people have
to be utterly destroyed. The government just needs to become
a a an organization that protects the people and issues checks,
issues checks to people who deserve them, and you know
exactly where they're going. And it's it. I mean, if
Andrew Yang was right about one thing, the best thing
the government is is good at is handing out checks.
You just have to know where. You have to make
sure it's not they're not Social Security checks for people
are two hundred years old. So you have to you know,
these people, I'll just reiterate, these people need to be
destroyed or else. You know, the future is not good.
They're going to come back with a vengeance and they're
going to come back someday anyway. That's just the way
the world works. And you're gonna have You're just gonna
have to be ready for it. You're gonna have to
have at least re engineered the structure of power so
that they can't just step in and automatically start doing
things as business as usual. Hopefully you put some checks
and balances in there, but we're also dealing with humans,
and humans are imperfect, so you know, you just really
do the best you can do.
Speaker 1: Do you think they they wait this out? Then weaight
this flurry out almost like uh, did you ever see
when we're kings? I'll beform a documentary?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I want to but no.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I think that's the Is that the documentary about the
fight in uh in Manila? No? Is it was the Yeah, yeah,
if you've never seen it.
Speaker 1: I was actually fortunate to meet the director when I
was in La watching back he out Train fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you know the premise of the
rope Adope, Ali just held on the ropes and let
foreman punch himself out. So in this case, do you
think the other side is twenty eight in their view
or even twenty six the midterm that they start to
strike back, that maybe the Trump administration will be like
a Foreman and have punched themselves out. I'm not saying
that's going to happen, but is at the strategy if
you're them.
Speaker 2: Possibly, I don't know. If twenty six is the midterms
is depending on what Trump does. Now. You know, Lulongo
thinks that he's going to work on getting rid of
the income tax by the midterms. If he gets rid
of the income tacts by the midterms, he'll have super
majorities in the House and Senate. They're going to come
back at some point. I don't know. When you look
at the way people are reacting to this, that it's
a very small minority that are really screaming that this
is unfair. And you see that like RFK gets pushed through,
and Tulsa gets pushed through, and cash Betel gets pushed through.
Cash Betel said he wants to end the FBI, and
he gets pushed through. Maybe just maybe they are they're
sitting it out and they're just going to bide their time,
and this would be a I mean, it would be
a good tactic, actually a really good tactic from the
Muslim world. If you know anything about the Iranian revolution
that was basically planned for you know, decades because they
were just waiting for the proper time, and you know,
when you have a well, I don't know now I'm
thinking about it. It's like, but you know, Muslims believe
in the eternal. These people don't believe in the eternal.
They're mostly atheists, and they believe everything happens now. Huh.
Put it this way, if Trump accomplishes a lot and
the country looks like it's getting back together, it's back
on his feet, and morale is great, and they lose
the midterms despite everything looking their way, then you have
to question whether we can even have elections anymore because
the people are too fucking stupid too to be allowed
to have a saying yeah, Because if people two years
from now want the people from the past four years
to be back in charge in two years, then I
would say that voting is done, that that people cannot
be allowed to vote anymore, and that you know, quote unquote,
democracy is dead and the only way you're going to
go forward and even have a hope of peace is
to have a strong man dictator take over and put
people in their place. It's just a question is whether
it's going to be a left or right dictator.
Speaker 1: What do you think the future? I had z Man
on over the weekend, and you know, we were talking about.
Speaker 2: He'll be on the Old Glory Club Old Glory Club
live stream tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be.
Speaker 1: Fun showing his face now too, he's unmasked himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've met him a couple of times. We
found out a couple of times. So yeah, he's a
good guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you guys go way back. Yeah, we
we were talking about you actually on the show, and
but I asked him, you know, what do you think
the future is of the Democratic Party as we sit
here today? Because the bench doesn't look too deep man.
Speaker 2: Like, Well, I mean, yeah, I guess there's a lot
of questions there is. Do they want to keep with
the degenerate stuff, with the trends stuff with it? Do
they go tread? Do they is there like I'm not
talking about like you know, like Catholic traditionalists or something
like that, but they start moving more towards the center
and start moving, you know, or do they double down
on this stuff? Because of what you could hope for
is that they double down on this stuff, because if
they double down on all of this, then I think
that was repudiated in November, and people just don't want
it anymore. So maybe you hope that they doubled down
on it. You know, you enjoy Reid just got fired
from MSNBC. Someone else was, another high profile person was
just fired. White guy. I think I remember who was.
If you start seeing these people, they're phasing these people out.
And if you remember, basically CNN and cable news was
dead in twenty sixteen. The only thing that kept them
going was Trump. And really the only thing that kept
them going was Russia Gate. You know, the Russia Gate.
I mean had I mean, you don't know whether these
ratings are real or not, but I mean something like
it was twenty million people were tuning into Rachel Maddow
every night, if you believe the numbers, or something like
that because of Russia Gate. I mean, they don't have
that anymore. They've tried, they're trying that now. Oh they're
people just ignoring it. People don't care, you know, Rachel.
I think I heard the joy Anne Reads show was
getting forty thousand viewers at night on Cable News. Forty thousand.
I mean there are podcasts that have more more than that.
I mean, I have friends that have podcasts. We get
five times that amount on every episode. I mean, how
do you. I don't know if anybody wants to hear
this stuff anymore. And I think a big part of
it is X is Twitter. They don't own Twitter anymore.
They don't get to control what goes on Twitter anymore.
You know, you put up you know, somebody puts up
a a pro Israel tweet and an anti Hamas tweet,
and there's not There's ten times more people on there
saying fuck Israel. You know, I don't have to like
AMAS to say fuck Israel. Fuck all of you. We
don't care. We don't want anything to do with it.
Fight your war, We don't give a shit. We just
don't want anything to do with it. We don't want
a dollar to go we don't want a dollar of
ours to go toward it. Screw you. And people couldn't
say that five six years ago. You couldn't say that
three years ago. I mean, I think really the game
changer was Musk Musk buying Twitter because I think a
bunch of us figured out a couple of years you know,
a few years ago that social media was we used
to say back in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Twitter is
not real life. Twitter may not be real life, but
a lot of narratives, even if they're not true narratives,
even if they're made up, even if they're even if
they're serving the purpose of just one group. Yes, I
know this, but that's where they start, that's where they propagate,
that's where they go, that's where they spread. They also
die there. I mean, I just don't know how if
nobody's watching cable news, nobody's tuning into their podcasts, and
they can't control, you know, speech on Twitter. And yes,
I know that some people have been thrown off its
Twitter and there's still censorship on Twitter. Yeah, that goes
back to we want things the way we want or
else we're going to throw a tantrum. It's still fucking
better than it was five years ago. And I think
as long as it stays that way. I mean, the
only way, I'll say this, the only way the left
gets power again, or this or the progressive Nuremberg New
Deal regime. This this, these people who've been running the
administrative state, their for their four bearers for all these years,
get power again. It's by force. I think they're going
to have to do it by force. I think people
are just set. I think people are fed up with it.
Speaker 1: How so by force? So how would how would you envision?
I'm not an FBI agent or whatever. By the way, Peyte,
I know, I know before you say that. I had
a friend of mine. We became friends connected through email
and then we started talking on the phone and I
met up with him for dinner a couple of years
ago with his son, and he said, you know this guy,
he might be at FBI, FBI in foremant or something.
He's like, I have no idea, meaning me, and obviously
you don't. You know we you know, I consider you
a friend even though we've never met in person. But
it was just funny. I'm like, man, do I fit
the FBI profile. I'm five foot five, you know, well,
social guy you ever see when you're out and about
anywhere I go, like the places I frequent. But it
was just kind of funny, like I'm like, oh, this
is the world we're in now because you just don't know.
But sorry, I cut off your thought.
Speaker 2: No, that's you know, Yeah, I mean I just look.
They were able to fund many armies to go into
the streets in twenty twenty. They're always going to be
quote unquote disaffected youth. There are always going to be
And here's another one. I haven't even talked about getting
academy under control. If you don't get academy under control,
especially colleges and universities, this cancer keeps spreading. I think
Zoomer guys are a little starting to see that all
that stuff is faking gay, and they tend to be
a little more right wing, even a lot more right
wing than myself in many cases. But it seems like
a lot of the girls aren't. A lot of the
girls are still susceptible to shit livery. You know, if
you can put an army out on the street in
certain sounds, you can cause a lot of a lot
of problems, and you can cause overreactions, and maybe we will.
Maybe we're creating an environment and a culture that looks
at twenty twenty and looks at Kenosha, Wisconsin and goes,
you know, shouldn't have had to rely on a seventeen
year old to kill pedophiles and wife beaters. Maybe we
send eighty second airborne in like we did in Los
Angeles back in the back in the nineties and we
put the put this riot down. Maybe the people will
be open to that. And maybe when the international, when
the international, when the globalists starts screaming about it from
other countries, we just left the middle finger to them
and go fuck you. This is the way we do
things now. I don't know, man, I think there's there's
a lot of options that people aren't thinking of. You know, people,
I think a lot of people think I'm completely white
pilled and Pollyanna about everything that Trump's doing. I like
a lot of what he's doing. I think a lot
of what he's doing is can can benefit me personally
and can benefit a lot of my people personally from
a monetary standpoint, and also getting your ducks in a row,
taking the heat off.
Speaker 1: But taking a break from all the nonsense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, taking a break from the nonsense and getting
letting people get used to a world without, you know,
a culture without the nonsense, and then desiring that and
demanding it, and so that the elites looking go, yeah,
I mean, it's good for business, this is what we want.
Do you see Jeff Bezi. Do you see Jeff Bezos
his tweet get rid of it?
Speaker 1: De I right, what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's hiring. He's saying the editorial department
is going to be about promoting free free markets, free
free markets and getting well I mean, like the anti diversities,
anti d I stuff and anything like that. I mean.
The easiest thing you can do, and you probably should,
is look at that and go, well, I mean, what
is he doing here? What's he setting you up for?
But I think that people like him put their finger
up to the wind, see which way it's blowing, and
it's like, well, I was blown in this direction. Now
I need to be I need to be over here.
I need to be promoting this. I need to be
a little more on the side of this White House,
because this White House looks like it is going after
people like me, like they would look upon people like
me and the way I've operated in my business as
the enemy up until now. So, I mean, is the
Washington Post going to continue to be the mouthpiece for
the CIA? I mean, basically the Washington Post has been
what a CIA op for decades? I don't know, but
I think it's interesting to see messages like that being
put out by Besos, by Besos of all people. I mean,
but you know, people are like Soros haven't changed her tunes.
You know, the people the city of London. People haven't
changed her tunes. Wef hasn't changed her soon. EU hasn't
changed her soon. These people still exist out there. They
still wield a lot of power, and they still have
a lot of influence on the international stage. That means
they have influence in our country. So maybe that's why,
you know, the Vice President gets sent over there to
smack them down and you know, insult them to their face.
Speaker 1: We don't even talk about Bongino.
Speaker 2: I mean that's Andrew. I don't see. I just don't
know enough about Dan Bung. You know, never really followed him.
I know he used to be secret Service or something
like that, and was he NYPD at some point?
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's NYPD. I mean to me,
I think my mom listens to him every day and
so she's always telling me what he's saying. And you know,
I Matt Bracken on here a lot, and he listens
to him. But I you know, the fact that he's
giving up his show because he's got a big audience
on Rumble and he's giving that up. I think he's
a I think he's a partner rumble as well. But
so the money that he's going to be, you know,
sacrificing in order to do this is what I find
Just Yeah, I mean it's fascinating to me. I didn't
think he you know, why I give up a gig
you have for this?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, maybe we're re entering the age of
the the people who know how to do something, an
expert on something being recruited into the government. You know,
it's not fifty to seventy five years ago that someone
like Elon Musk would have been tracked down and said,
you're working for the government, you're working for us. We
need the break the best in the brightest minds to
work for us. There was a time that that happened.
And maybe some people are you know, seeing that. Maybe
you know, that's why Lutnik and what's his name Witkoff,
who's doing the doing the negotiations with Israel and do
and Ukraine and Russia. Maybe that's why they're doing these things.
Maybe they're I'm not saying that they have to have
their your interests at heart, but maybe they're doing it
for some kind of patriotic you know, feel like it
is their patriotic duty or something like that. Maybe that's
the kind of age where we're re entering, and it
could be something we we enter out of rather quickly. Yeah,
it used to take forever. It took forty years too,
even for a lot of people to even realize that
we had an administrative state and that the New Deal
basically created that. But you know, we also have only
had the Internet now since what nineteen ninety one, ninety two.
Information travels so much faster now. You know. One of
the things that we we've talked about on the on
my show before is that you know, in nineteen ninety eight,
when I discovered the Institute for Historical Review and yeah,
doing revisionist history, and I was reading articles and booklets
that they had out there talking about the JQ. I mean,
that wasn't something you talked about openly. It wasn't something
it was something you and your friends whispered about. You
you lent him the pamphlet, he read it, then you
had a conversation in private. It's openly being discussed in
public now. And sure have heard of this stuff about oh,
anti anti semitism bills and anti semitism executive orders, but
if you really look at it, it's trying to crack
down on far people from outside of the country, students
from other places. Sure it could be used to crack
down on people who are talking about it publicly, who
may even be on the regime side. But what I'm
saying is is that I never thought that something like
that would be discussed openly, that someone like Tucker Carlson
would have who has the biggest podcast in the world,
would have, you know, Daryl Cooper on and Daryl Cooper
would openly question the World War two narrative to the
point where like the White House, you know, chastised him
and you know, basically said that he was wrong. I
think the in this information age, when all this information
is available to us and people are finally figuring out
how to use it and how to compile information and
use AI and you can put a book into AI
now and it'll give you like all the main bullet
points where you can just you know, ron Uns has
done that on his website ron Uns he writes articles
anywhere from six thousand sometimes twenty thousand words and he
puts out the audio for it. And I still don't
have two hours to sit down and listen to But
he's finally he's finally attached on his on his on
his website to his article. If you look at the
article and there's an AI button, and you hit the
AI button, and it gives you an AI synopsis all
the bullet points of the article. You can get so
much information so fast. Now you can debunk, you know,
reports in real time. You see that happen on Twitter
all the time, on on social media. I just think
change can happen a lot fucking faster now. And you
still have you know, I'm not saying that, oh, all
of these old networks of power that we're seeking to
keep the truth away from us, or to keep us
in bondage to this, you know, to the post war consensus,
you know, the World War two consensus or the Civil
Rights Act consensus, aren't aren't in play, aren't still in play.
It certainly seems like they're dying to some to some extent,
just the fact that you can call a person a
retard on Twitter is a lot different.
Speaker 1: We didn't even get into the whole AI. The evolution
of AI and how fast that seems to be moving.
Speaker 2: Well, i I'm do you use it?
Speaker 1: Use that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, But I agree with my friend Charles, Hey,
what I think that. I think it has a cap
I don't believe that AI is capable of doing some
of the things that the doomers are. I think it's
going to be able to do. I just don't think
maybe sometime in the far future. But there's a big
difference between being able to you know, plug a book
in and it reads the book for you really quick,
or it has stored references to that book where it
can give you bullet points and and managing this gigantic
panopticon and it or becoming sentient unto itself. I just
I'm not I'm not buying that at this point. People
have to remember something. When someone tells you, especially somebody
who's in the AI business, that AI can do that,
our AI can do this, they're looking for you to
send them money. They're looking for people with lots and
lots of money. They're over selling the hype so that
people will invest with them. This is something that everyone
who anyone who's ever talked to somebody in VC knows.
They're always over selling what it can do so that
they can get money coming to them, and a lot
of times that Howard Hughes talked about this in a
book I was reading, where he would say, there were
times I just went after a government contract and I
built something that would never be able to get off
the ground. But all I had to do was showed
that that's was my intention. So, I mean, I don't
even I don't even believe half of the stuff that
I see when people say, oh, technologically this thing can
do that and everything, and and I'm I actually have
some investments in some of these companies, but I still
don't believe that they that they're going to be the
end of the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I the whole terminator two terminator scenario. I
don't envision that. And uh because I know you hear
those types of these ais will become you know, they'll
have a motion and sky Net, Yeah, sky Net and Cyberdine.
We have to destroy Cyberdine. Was it a Cyberdine? Was
that the name of the company? Terminator too?
Speaker 2: I think it was cyber nine. Yeah, that might be
another that might be another movie, but I think it
was cyber nine.
Speaker 1: And uh Ix, you had the hand of the chip, right,
those are the those are the two components.
Speaker 2: But everybody's always reverse engineering something.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's like one of my favorite movies when
I was a kid. I don't know if you and
I talked about that last month, but I could still
watch that movie today and it still holds up.
Speaker 2: I mean, one and two are just fantastic. Both of
them are really good and one is really under is
an underrated Oh yeah, just on aside, I saw this.
I guess this is popular and goes around the internet.
But was it? Lance Henrickson and Lance Henrickson and Bill
Paxton were the two actors only two actors who were
killed by a terminator Alien and predator.
Speaker 1: Lance Henrickson wasn't killed by an alien though, right, he
was well cut half, he was cutting half.
Speaker 2: But he lived. Yeah, he well, no, he ended up no, no,
when they showed up in in Alien three, when they
showed up, he was he was he was no longer alive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but don't you remember Sigourney, I mean nippicking here,
but Sigourney, we were program programmed to back end.
Speaker 2: All right, now you're not now you're yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Bill Paxson was killed by a predator.
Speaker 2: It was predator to the one in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, on the subway.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Lance Henderson died by Alien Versus Predator, Yeah,
which was actually not a bad Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, that's no Alien Verse Predator is a great movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, second one.
Speaker 2: Not so I tell people, yeah, not so much. If
I tell people if they had never seen Alien Versus Predator, Oh,
that just sounds retarded, I'm like, no, watch it's surrounding it. Yeah,
the whole story surrounding it is a lot better than
I thought it was going to be, because I remember
walking in the mall and seeing like an ad for
it at the theater when it was coming out, and
I'm like, this is retarded. And then like ten years later,
I turn it on and I'm like, oh wow, this
is really entertaining and the story is a lot better
than I thought it was. I mean, we're going to
talk about movies again, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, we're going to take the last five minutes
because we're running out of time here anyway with you
uh well, you know, and I never thought that the
predators would get bitch slapped around the way they do.
I mean, the aliens whooped their ass.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you had to get the idea that
the aliens would I mean their blood. I mean it's
how did they kill the aliens? I mean you guys
to put them out the lock or and I mean
did that even kill them? Yeah? You know, no, you
mean you really had to just basically destroy them.
Speaker 1: Obliterate them. Yeah. So coming back, so the AI world,
I know we're getting out of time, running out of
time here with you, But the AI world, to me,
I think that I think it's going to have an
impact on some of the white collar jobs, right, accounting, developing,
absolutely absolutely, and and I don't think it's too far
down the road. I mean depending on who you talk to,
who I've talked to, probably who you've spoken with, you know,
the idea of a CE, what kind of value is
that going to hold the next five to ten years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, if you get rid of the
income tax basically now is now all they're gonna be
doing is books. And as someone who's done books who
wasn't a CPA, and I've done books for businesses before,
it's not hard. It's I mean a little bit of
training and anyone with a mathematical and an analytical mind
can do it. But yeah, I mean AI should be
able to do all of that. I think there's going
to be a lot of uses for AI. And yeah,
I think it's going to a lot of people are
going to be we're going to be looking for new jobs.
How that plays out, I don't know. Way above my
pay grade, man, way.
Speaker 1: Above my medical billing, medical coding, those types of positions.
Real estate, what are you going to need a real
estate agent for?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's already happening. There's already I know of a
programs for real estate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and what you paid to a real estate
agent when you buy a house. I'm probably gi get
some ship for people for this, But.
Speaker 2: Real estate agent, they ever sat at that table. There's
five people with their hands out there there. There's there
are a bunch of people getting a piece of the
pie when you buy a house. That's for sure.
Speaker 1: And that that that to me is I mean, you know,
there was a story going around with NAR and they
were having a legal battle and I haven't heard I
haven't heard about it in a while. It was almost
like it was like a big Tech versus NAR legal battle,
and it was like six or eight months ago and
I haven't heard anything since that. But it's to me,
that seems imminent that it's some point not imminent, but
it's heading in that direction to where you know, you
buy a house and you just go through some type
of software AI. What do you need a real estate
agent for to walk you through it, to do the paperwork?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean yeah, which I'll see. And I
mean anyone who's anyone who's sat at that table buying
a house knows that you'd rather deal with a computer.
Speaker 1: What do you need a praiser for? What do you
need a real estate developer for?
Speaker 2: I mean appraiser. I'm trying to think. I think that
appraiser was here for ten minutes. It's like literally ten minutes.
It's like, come on, well, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And would it cost you two hundred dollars three hundred dollars?
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but it was probably two or three inspector.
Inspector was more, but wanted a little bit more inspection
than others. I think that that's one place where the
human where humans are not going to be uh replaced
by AI. You need a good inspector, especially if you're
buying an old house. I mean, our house is built
in nineteen forty. Yeah, you definitely want people to you
want a human to come out here and look with
their eyes.
Speaker 1: And then healthcare, Uh you know how much of how
much of an impact will that have in terms of
dealing with some type of AI practitioner.
Speaker 2: Definitely for coding and for insurance claims. Yeah, I mean
they were already. I remember when my when my mom
was was dying, and this was in two thousand and five,
they already had robots that were doing surgeries in the
you know, at that time. So I can just imagine
how much more advanced they are now.
Speaker 1: I had a friend who was a surgeon and he
it was I think it was called a da Vinci robot.
And because they can the human hand can only bend
so much. The da Vinci was and this is what
you just said fifteen years ago, so I can't even
it had to evolve even more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean technology should be all about serving humans.
That's it. That's it, that's what we that's what we
want technology for is to make our lives easier and
to extend our lives. That's it.
Speaker 1: You sound to me, you know, I feel like every
time I talk to you, you you you have a
you have a good optimism about you. I always feel
better after you and I talked for an hour and
a half.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. In two thousand and eight, you
remember the financial crisis in two thousand and eight, How
did that affect your life? Not much? I mean, basically,
most of the stuff that we worry about never like materializes.
We normally forget about it two months ago, two months
down the line, if someone reminds us that we were
worried about that, we may even be like, I don't
even remember worrying about that. I mean, I just don't
see the point in There's so when I think back
of all the things I worried about in life, I mean,
so little of it actually materialized to become something that
you know, affected me that I had to deal with.
I just think that we have a tendency to believe
that things that happened politically, especially at the national level
and stuff like that, we're going to affect us and
are going to affect our lives in significant ways. Most
of the time they don't. Most of the time they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the state level, here, I'm seeing Katie Hobbs come
into more scrutiny, and I'm hoping, Yeah, I'm using the
word hope something something materializes with that, although she's a
career Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean things can. Yeah, I mean, I guess
the one thing that can really politically, that can really
have an effect on people is demographics. I guess that's
the one thing that's really important. And you know, at
this point, that whole thing we were talking about Eric Prince,
I'd do it in a heartbeat. And Trump was asked
about that today at the press conference for his for
the meeting for the meeting of his board for the Cabinet,
and they said, oh, have you talked to Eric Princes?
I no, No, No, I haven't. And I'm like, well,
you also said that you didn't know anything about Project
twenty twenty five, and so much of Project twenty twenty
five is being implemented right now, so I don't know,
let's see what at me. I've been following Erik Prince
came back on the scene and started doing podcasts and
then started promoting stuff about Oh God. A year ago,
they started his own podcast off Leash, and I've been
following him, and I think there's a reason why he's
coming back into the uh, coming back into the public,
and he's coming back in the way he is, and
he's also talking about like free markets and libertarianism and
bitcoin and things like that. I'm going to be interested
to see if Trump says I haven't spoken to Eric Prince.
I mean, I should see if he takes Eric Prince
up on his offer, or if that's an offer that
was actually floated to him and that he's just putting
it out there in the Zeit guys to get people
to gauge how people react to that. But yeah, I
think the one thing, the one thing I'm most worried
about right now is demographics and immigration. It not only
needs to be stopped, it needs to be reversed. And yeah,
that's I know a lot of people who said if
Trump only addressed immigration, that would consider that to be
a win. And it seems like he's addressing it, but
not as fast as a lot of people would would
like it. And maybe he's seen the complaints and his
people have seen the complaints and they floated this out
there to see how people reacted to it. Yeah, I said,
I saw my wife last night. I said, I would
love to see Musk do one of his Polls'd be like,
should we have Eric Prince do this? And lay down
the whole thing and pay him the twenty five billion
to accomplish this in by the mid terms, fifteen million
deported and do a yes or a no and then
just go off of that Fox POPU livox day and
that would be great. Is the immigration the immigration issue
probably is the greatest the greatest threat right now.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Pete peaking you on a show? Check out that's it.
You can check that out PQ dot org. Then you
can Pete substack dot com and the Old Glory Club.
We have a substack Old Glory Club and we livestream
every Thursday night at eight o'clock Eastern on YouTube and
on x We're still on YouTube. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: And for people listening, make sure you go on to
go on to Pete substack and become a pet subscriber
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great information. The guy works very, very hard, and you know,
I asked that people my audience contribute to uh all
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Mike, and right back at you, people
go go subscribe to Mike and make sure to donate
to Mike. He he has people on that I've never
even heard of, and it's always a good conversation. Like
you may be the h you may you may be
approaching Tucker Carlson level with your guests of I never
know what the fuck you're going to talk about with
a guest.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man, I'm getting a little embarrassed at
that compliment. But I don't know. I mean, I just
you know, I'm just I'm trying to I'm not even
trying to learning. And that's why I have people like
you on. I mean, I'm kidding myself. I can't go
toe to toe with you. The amount of books you've
read and the history knowledge that you have. I don't
have that. But where do you start? Yeah, and I
feel like there's a lot of people in that category
that they.
Speaker 2: Go to the Spanish Civil War. If people want to
know where to start, start with the Spanish Civil War.
By a book by Stanley Pain and read about the
Spanish Civil War. They're going to tell you. What you
know about the Spanish Civil War is that these evil
fascist rised up to destroy a republican government. Oh, you've
been lied to, You've been lied to. Go read Pain
and check on. If you go to my podcast and
you scroll back and you search, read my listen to
my Spanish Civil War episodes, you'll get an idea of
exactly what that was all about and why a bunch
of us believe that if the left or the regime
or the progressives, whatever you want to call them, if
they don't get destroyed in this country utterly, we could
be headed down that road.
Speaker 1: And we explain why Pete's always enjoying our conversations and
look forward to the next one. Thank you, Mike, Mike
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