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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZST Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, welcome on back, Welcome on back to Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday night edition. Here weather forecast that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little chillier as this week went on,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of bemoaning that. I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>still been summer for a while. Okay, we are as

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<v Speaker 2>always here at WBZ, committed certainly on Nightside to explain

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<v Speaker 2>as best we can, both sides whenever possible. The various

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<v Speaker 2>ballot questions. There are five ballot questions this year that

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to be talking about, as I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about some of them already. I think many

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<v Speaker 2>of you are familiar with our support for the state

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<v Speaker 2>auditors authority to audit the legislature, which is Question one

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<v Speaker 2>that has the question that the state Auditor, Diane Desauglio

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<v Speaker 2>is basically would ask us to vote yes to allow

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<v Speaker 2>the state Auditor to audit, to have the authority to

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<v Speaker 2>audit the legislature. The legislature has not been cooperative there

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<v Speaker 2>that we have the elimination of the mcast as a

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<v Speaker 2>high school graduation requirement. That's kind of funny because if

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<v Speaker 2>you to eliminate it, you have to vote yes. To keep,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to vote no. There's also minimum ways for

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<v Speaker 2>tipped workers, which we're talked about a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>the limited legalization and regulation of certain natural psychedelic substances,

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<v Speaker 2>which we have talked about, but we have not talked

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<v Speaker 2>about today. Question three, unionization for transportation network drivers. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're delighted to be joined tonight by a representative who

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<v Speaker 2>is opposed to this question question three. Her name is

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Cobb Lemir. She is with an organization which is

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<v Speaker 2>entitled the Massachusetts Drivers United. You're an organizer for that,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Cobb Lamir, Welcome to night Side. Thanks for being

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<v Speaker 2>available tonight. We will actually have a representative on the

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<v Speaker 2>yes side of question three, and I believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>will be joining us as early as tomorrow night in

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<v Speaker 2>this same hour, So give everybody an opportunity to hear

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<v Speaker 2>both sides of the issue. And this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>this is a complicated one, Kelly. From our conversation today,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll keep it as simple as possible. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>you are not a driver, correct, but you are a

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<v Speaker 2>union activist. I have you a fair way to describe you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, definitely, we definitely. We're pro union. We are on grassroots,

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<v Speaker 3>one driver led organization, and we've been fighting for rights

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<v Speaker 3>and protections at drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>How many members makes up the group Massachusetts Drivers United approximately.

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<v Speaker 3>We have about probably about eighteen hundred to two thousand members.

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<v Speaker 2>And these would be people who drive for either Uber

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<v Speaker 2>Lift those I assume you could also include bus drivers

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<v Speaker 2>or cab drivers. But are they Uber and Lyft drivers

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<v Speaker 2>or are similar ride share drivers.

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<v Speaker 3>They would be ride share drivers Uber Lyft. But we

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<v Speaker 3>also we also have in our group a whole group

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<v Speaker 3>of workers, which would be delivery drivers. So okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>those people, those workers are left out of this ballot initiative,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's one of the reasons why we're opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So those would be the folks that deliver food, door

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<v Speaker 2>dash and those sort of drivers. When you order a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza late at night, that driver is out there hustling,

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<v Speaker 2>just like an Uber or a Lyft driver, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>transporting in most cases food. I guess they could also

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<v Speaker 2>transport other items, but they're not transporting people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, basically this is you know, the ride

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<v Speaker 3>share drivers, so it doesn't include food delivery or passenger.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's also medical. Uber has a medical transport,

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<v Speaker 3>so they are transporting passengers, but they are leaving out

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<v Speaker 3>all the food delivery drivers. And you know, most drivers

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<v Speaker 3>work for multiple platforms, and so you know, Massachusetts Drivers

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<v Speaker 3>United has been advocating that all app based workers, including

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<v Speaker 3>food delivery drivers, be included in this. So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>huge group of workers that would be left out of

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<v Speaker 3>this law, those that work for door Dash, Instacart, and

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<v Speaker 3>Uber Eats.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my understanding, and I've tried to do a little

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<v Speaker 2>research on it, is that ballid questions in Massachusetts are

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<v Speaker 2>fairly closely monitored and it's not as if you and

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<v Speaker 2>I can get it just to just have to get

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<v Speaker 2>the signatures. They also have to sign the stand and qualify.

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<v Speaker 2>And the correct question would be if you try to

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<v Speaker 2>include again food rivers or or people who are not

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<v Speaker 2>Uber lift type drivers, meaning you know, the people who

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<v Speaker 2>drive another person from point A to point B, would

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<v Speaker 2>that disqualify this issue from even getting on the ballot

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<v Speaker 2>or would the Attorney General have said no, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>too many internal questions here. You will it down just

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<v Speaker 2>a single question, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, as we we've been advocating that it

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<v Speaker 3>is a complex issue. There has been legislation that mirrors

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<v Speaker 3>this ballot, and that's been legislation that mirrors what we've

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<v Speaker 3>been fighting for, which would make you know, drivers employees

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<v Speaker 3>and give them full rights, including all app based drivers.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately the legislators thought it was too complex. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they were leaving it for the Attorney general settlement.

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<v Speaker 3>They were leaving it for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm sure that probably the legs or as they

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<v Speaker 2>are often influenced my businesses and companies who who might

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Uber Lyft. I assume that Uber and Lyft are

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<v Speaker 2>not thrilled about this question from any perspective, correct, They

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<v Speaker 2>would probably make me keep everything the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it basically is in a lot of ways. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the reasons why we are against it

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<v Speaker 3>is that Uber and lyft a not against question three.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, customarily they've allocated hundreds of millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>into election battles to keep drivers from having rights. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they did that in California when Prop twenty two was

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<v Speaker 3>on the ballot. And the fact that Uber and Lyft

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<v Speaker 3>are silent on this is really a strong indication that

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<v Speaker 3>it is benefiting them to some degree and not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>the drivers. Obviously they're being classified as independent contractors. The

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney General. The Attorney General settlement, you know, solidify that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the lawsuit was actually about misclassification and they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get a ruling on that. So this, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're silent on it means that they're benefiting from it.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually are advertising to drivers. Oh look, we came

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<v Speaker 3>up with this settlement. You know, we're going to give

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<v Speaker 3>you thirty two to fifty an hour, We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a few benefits, and they're actually promoting it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean that's a red flag for any labor

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<v Speaker 3>union to look at. Why is uber and left?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a complicated issue and we will sort

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<v Speaker 2>it out as the evening goes on. We'll take it

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<v Speaker 2>little bites at a time. My guest is her name

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<v Speaker 2>is Kelly kab leamir. She's an organizer for a group

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<v Speaker 2>called the Massachusetts Drivers United, and they are opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>Question three. And again, your instinct would be that rideshare

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<v Speaker 2>drivers would support a question which allow them to unionize,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a group that is opposed to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And as they said tomorrow night, we'll have on another

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<v Speaker 2>point of view on this issue. So if you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to join the conversation, you're more than welcome if you

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<v Speaker 2>If you can help us bring some clarity to it,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be great. Uh six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty six, one seven, nine, ten thirty. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back with my guest, Kelly cobb Lemire of the Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>Drivers United, which is opposed to mass ballot Question three,

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<v Speaker 2>which would allow Uber and Lyft drivers to unionize. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a question, feel free to join us

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I know that I have a lot of Uber

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<v Speaker 2>drivers and Lyft drivers who are driving around right now

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<v Speaker 2>and listening to night Side, and I'm specific looking for

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<v Speaker 2>perspective from drivers, whether you're a member of the Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>Drivers United, a group that Kelly cobb Lemir represents, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the other side of this issue. The question

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<v Speaker 2>is Uber came on board? What about ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden Uber pops up and at least

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<v Speaker 2>that's the history that I recall. Are you with me

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<v Speaker 2>on that, Kelly?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm about that time frame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I was stunned that Uber could actually work

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<v Speaker 2>in cities like Boston where for many, many years Boston

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<v Speaker 2>had had eighteen hundred Hackney licenses and to get a

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<v Speaker 2>Hackney license you had to pay an arm and a

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<v Speaker 2>leg about a half a million dollars, And all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden Uber arrives and I just watched them decimate

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<v Speaker 2>the cab industry because the vehicles were cleaner, and the

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<v Speaker 2>drivers were younger, and they were more flexible with their hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So Uber has some pretty good lawyers and uh business

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<v Speaker 2>people associated with it. Those are the people who the

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<v Speaker 2>drivers are always going to be sitting across the table from.

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<v Speaker 2>And what you hope to do is to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to level that playing field. But why not take whatever

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<v Speaker 2>victory you can get and support this, uh, this ballot

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<v Speaker 2>initiative and then go back a year from now or

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<v Speaker 2>two years from now with another ballot initiative. What's what's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with taking half a loaf or you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>quarters of a loaf, uh, at risk not getting any

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<v Speaker 2>of the loaf? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, A lot of people have said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it better to have something than nothing? But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>The way I look at this, Dan, and the way

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<v Speaker 3>we look at it from a labor perspective is, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>this not only does it maintain the drivers as independent

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<v Speaker 3>contractors and doing nothing to confirm Massachusetts law that would

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<v Speaker 3>you know, cover drivers as full labor you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>full labor and employment rights. But this would actually create

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<v Speaker 3>a second tier of workers, you know, by granting this

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<v Speaker 3>group of workers some rights but not guaranteeing them access

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<v Speaker 3>to the rights of other Massachusetts workers, it really does

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<v Speaker 3>a disservice and in our minds it you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>creates a second tier with fewer rights and less power

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<v Speaker 3>and ability to even enforce those rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Assuming this statue, this ballot indership were to pass, what

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<v Speaker 2>rights would the drivers at least in the short run

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<v Speaker 2>miss out on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for sure, no unemployment insurance, no workers comp and

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<v Speaker 3>no overtime. And you know they're saying, oh, we're giving

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<v Speaker 3>you thirty two fifty an hour, but not really, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's only when you turn the app on and accept

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<v Speaker 3>a ride and then you deliver the passenger. There's no overtime,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no wait time. So it's basically you know that

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<v Speaker 3>one particular you know, when you're you know, you've accepted

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<v Speaker 3>a ride and you're delivering the passenger. And a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times you'll ask uber and lyft drivers they're waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for passengers, they're they're you know, they're waiting for rides.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking for the good rides, and they're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>things that work out for them, and so they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>waiting a lot. So you know, that doesn't really help them.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct me if I'm wrong, because I know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about this. But whenever you know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about something, it's my understanding is that because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>in situations where you say, yeah, I want to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take some over driver says yea, I'll pick you up,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, the over driver disappears because

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<v Speaker 2>they have found or the lift driver disappears because they've

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<v Speaker 2>found a more lucrative fear. Does that happen, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it could. But I think what happens

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<v Speaker 3>is sometimes there's not a lot of transparency. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>know from some drivers they said they didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>ride with a you know, with a fair amount and

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<v Speaker 3>assuming that whatever they're paying Uber and lyfts for this

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<v Speaker 4>Know, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>They may be getting maybe if they're lucky, thirty percent

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe a tip, but the drivers, you know, aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Really there's not a lot of transparency, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when they started out, I thought you told me

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<v Speaker 2>today that the drivers would get eighty percent. Has that

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<v Speaker 3>once they got in. Pretty much shortly after that, they

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<v Speaker 3>they have Here's the thing too, Dan, if they really

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<v Speaker 3>have negotiated your pay, So they're really employees subject to

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<v Speaker 3>whatever uber lyfticides to pay them for whatever fare. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the part that we really are trying

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<v Speaker 3>to point out is there's still this misclassification and you're

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<v Speaker 3>go along with being an employee because you're maintaining the

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<v Speaker 3>independent contractor to status, which isn't really true because they

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<v Speaker 3>they they would have already negotiated, you know, getting seventy

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<v Speaker 3>or eighty percent. But that's you know, that's part of

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do this. Let's get some phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>going here. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>get Johnny, and Johnny's been waiting. Get Johnny gets you

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<v Speaker 2>in here before the news at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>You were first on Night Side with Kelly cobb Lemire

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<v Speaker 2>of the Massachusetts Drivers United.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Hi, Dan, missus Johnny from Selfie. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>love listening to your show, and I just I just

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<v Speaker 4>need to get this twelve bye. I read the missiative

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<v Speaker 4>petition and it sounded like they were union people that

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<v Speaker 4>were preventing, uh, the independent people, the people that work

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<v Speaker 4>for wolver Lift or whatever they were, they were preventing

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<v Speaker 4>them from becoming unionized. That did I get that right?

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<v Speaker 4>That pass?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see what Kelly says. Kelly's a union person,

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<v Speaker 2>she's opposed to the initiative. So I assume you could

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<v Speaker 2>come to that conclusion. But let's let Kelly defend. Okay, sure, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you tell John you what your credentials are.

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<v Speaker 3>We're definitely pro union. We we definitely part of our

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<v Speaker 3>you know, mission statement is for a pathway to a union.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why, you know, there's multiple reasons and multiple

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<v Speaker 3>layers and the complexity of why we don't support this

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<v Speaker 3>ballot initiative is it And it's not just because we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want a pathway to a union. It's because of

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<v Speaker 3>all these other things that go along with it. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're definitely pro.

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<v Speaker 4>The other reasons, well I mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that it maintains the drivers as independent contractors. It

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<v Speaker 3>creates a second tier of workers. It was no overtime,

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<v Speaker 3>no unemployment insurance, no workers comp So these workers are

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<v Speaker 3>getting some rights, but not access to all different rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Another huge reason why we are questioning. This is because

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<v Speaker 3>this pathway to a unionization that is in this ballot

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<v Speaker 3>initiative leaves out the National Labor Relations Act, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a national law that protects workers' rights to organize. That

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<v Speaker 3>law is much stronger than question three. Question three completely

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<v Speaker 3>leaves out some of the rights, for example, the right

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<v Speaker 3>to strike when workers don't take.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, you're talking about the National Labor Relation for.

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<v Speaker 3>The National Labor Relations Act, Yeah, the Wagner Act. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a national law that protects workers' rights to organize, and

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<v Speaker 3>that would be stronger than this because because this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>isn't national law, it's only state law. So state law

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<v Speaker 3>would not give them as many rights. So what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of leverage? You know, why would Massachusetts want a law

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't give workers the basic right to strike? You

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<v Speaker 3>know that leverage?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so if they got their foot in the door.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I just get clear because I know how

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<v Speaker 4>I feel about it, and I've never heard in all

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<v Speaker 4>my years of being a union activist and a union

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<v Speaker 4>elected official that unions were trying to prevent other people

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<v Speaker 4>to get to where we got by just being middle

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 4>If they got the foot in the door by letting

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<v Speaker 4>them unionize, then just by getting in the getting a

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<v Speaker 4>foot in the door, they can work on those things

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<v Speaker 4>that we're trying to prevent them to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Which John, that's a good argument. But again, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Kelly has explained it a couple of times, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I asked for your question kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. Isn't it better take half of me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, No, no, no, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Just get on to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. No, I just wanted to know. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you got the same answer that I did. Kelly has

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<v Speaker 2>been very forthright with both you and me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you. Call. John, thank you. We've got the nine

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<v Speaker 2>The only well, we got two lines open, one at

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<v Speaker 2>You can ask whatever questions you would like of my guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly kabb Lamir. She's with a group called Mass Drivers United.

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<v Speaker 2>This group, she says, about eighteen hundred to two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>right share drivers are as well as other people who

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<v Speaker 2>DoorDash drivers who basically make their living transporting in the

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<v Speaker 2>case of Uber and Lyft, transporting people in the case

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<v Speaker 2>of door Dash, and others importing uh transporting products. Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>Cobb LAMIIR opposed to question three, which would allow Uber

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<v Speaker 2>and Lyft drivers to organize. Her group is mass Drivers

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<v Speaker 2>at night It feel free to join the conversation. Ask

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<v Speaker 2>a question. Be back on Nightside right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest is Kelly Cobb LEMIR. She's opposed to question three.

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<v Speaker 2>She represents. She tells me some eighteen hundred to two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand Massachusetts drivers in a group called mass Drivers United.

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<v Speaker 2>She says that membership includes and if I'm wrong here,

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<v Speaker 2>correct me, some Uber, some Lyft drivers, but also people

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<v Speaker 2>who work for door Dash. I mean Uber Lyft drivers

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<v Speaker 2>transport people. There are other drivers out there that transport documents,

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<v Speaker 2>They transport food and things that are that are not people.

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<v Speaker 2>But she feels that this question three does not go

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<v Speaker 2>far enough to cover all of the concerns that any

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<v Speaker 2>of these drivers might have. Let me go to Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>who's calling in from Fall River. Ryan welcome your first

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<v Speaker 2>you're actually your second this hour. But I'm beginning to

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<v Speaker 2>think you might be a first time caller, Ryan, because

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<v Speaker 2>I can't recall someone from by from fall of Ryan.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I am a first time caller. I'm actually one

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<v Speaker 5>of them members of massachus Drivers United along with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I just wanted we just give you a

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<v Speaker 2>you to be honored properly. You go right ahead. So

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<v Speaker 2>I assume you're in agreement with Kelly. Kelly kobb Lamir

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<v Speaker 2>tell us, tell us, why yes.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've actually been dealing with a lot of issues

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<v Speaker 5>with being a lift driver. I am a full time

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<v Speaker 5>lift driver, where being uh classified as an employee would

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<v Speaker 5>be very beneficial to me and to all the other

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<v Speaker 5>drivers for simple reasons of like doing taxes. Having them

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<v Speaker 5>be required to do all of our taxes and we

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<v Speaker 5>just get the normal tax from that everyone else gets.

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<v Speaker 5>That'd be very beneficial. So we're not having to sit

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<v Speaker 5>there and go through all of our dass receipts that

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<v Speaker 5>we have to get any service order receipts that we've

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<v Speaker 5>done throughout the year, and we have to keep every

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, right, how would that change?

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, if let's say you maintained your car

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<v Speaker 2>as a normal business expense, you you would be you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be able to take that as a tax deduction as

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<v Speaker 2>long as this you know a certain amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>based upon how much you made, But you'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to show that receipt uh to someone whoever's

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<v Speaker 2>preparing your taxes. Sound to me like you're not a

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yes, you do still have to have certain receipts

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<v Speaker 5>doing normal taxes for everyone and even now, but doing

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<v Speaker 5>basically being your own business owner, you're required to people

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<v Speaker 5>far more information than a normal regular person doing a

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<v Speaker 2>Erstand there there were some people who liked the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being their own that's fine, there are some. But

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't fall in that category, which is perfectly understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that makes it this attractive to you. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to vote no on this question?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, as well as there's also other reasons like I

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<v Speaker 5>believe that the uh the type of unions that we

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<v Speaker 5>will essentially be or could potentially be yellow unions because

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<v Speaker 5>of the fact that a lot of the h information

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<v Speaker 5>and like h you call it, literature that went into

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<v Speaker 5>how this question got written was heavily influenced by Uber

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<v Speaker 5>and Lyft, not directly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you use the term yellow unions. I heard that

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<v Speaker 2>term before. We mean that somehow Uber and Lyft is

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<v Speaker 2>Is that sort of correct?

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<v Speaker 5>So if for anyone who doesn't know what a your

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<v Speaker 5>or uh controlled by the company that is a union

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<v Speaker 5>of so it all benefits the company and doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 5>fully end up benefiting the the employees and union members.

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<v Speaker 2>How much research did you have to do on this, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>You're well spoken to come to your conclusion.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been hearing everything and doing my own research for

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<v Speaker 5>since I've started driving with Lift because it's been headaches

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<v Speaker 5>since I've started because they do so much different things

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<v Speaker 5>that affect me and affect how make money. Like Lift

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<v Speaker 5>has what's called these bonus clouds on the map when

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<v Speaker 5>that could.

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<v Speaker 2>Be So that sounds like the employ that It sounds

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<v Speaker 2>to me if that's true, that uber Lyft is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of playing a game.

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<v Speaker 5>Right and so being able to have proper unions that

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<v Speaker 5>are good and that what me and Kelly have been

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<v Speaker 5>trying to fight for and our group has been fighting for.

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<v Speaker 5>We're also employees as well, so we can have those

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<v Speaker 5>type of proper type of unions. As being an employee,

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<v Speaker 5>we could fight to have actual changes done to the

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<v Speaker 5>app because currently the only way for any of us

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<v Speaker 5>drivers to get hold of people is to call there.

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<v Speaker 5>For me, as a lift driver, all I have is

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<v Speaker 5>their driver Help Center call line, which goes to a

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<v Speaker 5>foreign call center.

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<v Speaker 2>Direct I'm deal with. I'll tell me I feel your pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I've dealt with a lot of those foreign Can I

439
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<v Speaker 2>tell you that that if you ask for what is

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<v Speaker 2>called then here's a trick with some companies. If you

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<v Speaker 2>say I'd like to speak with an onshore representative, they

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<v Speaker 2>then will treat someone in the USA.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe I'll try that next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it in your back pocket. Now, if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any on shore representatives and they're dealing with everyone

446
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<v Speaker 2>you know overseas, obviously that doesn't work. Hey, Brian, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a great call. Thank you. I just got to

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<v Speaker 2>get a couple more, well few more in here before

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<v Speaker 2>the hours up Best Alive. It was a good call.

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<v Speaker 2>Do me favorite shot listening to my program? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>really mean that. How old are you are you selling

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<v Speaker 2>your young guy?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I'm actually twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Well good for you. This is this is the type

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<v Speaker 2>of type of work that you like to do. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>good for you. Good for you. Work hard. Thanks, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it very much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having me here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. Let me get take some courage when

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<v Speaker 2>you're twenty seven years old to pick up the phone

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<v Speaker 2>and call a talk show for Attleborough. John, you were

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<v Speaker 2>next with Kelly kobb Lemire on Nightside, Right head John?

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Dan, I listened to your show a lot

464
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<v Speaker 6>when I'm out late at night. How are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Nice to make your acquaintance. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>called before?

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<v Speaker 6>And no, I no, I don't believe I have.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a round of a clause too, John,

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. What's your what's you're taking? What Kelly had

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<v Speaker 2>to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm driving Uber for about seven weeks, so I'm

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<v Speaker 6>relatively new at it, and I like it. I love

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<v Speaker 6>it actually because I sit behind a computer all day

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<v Speaker 6>doing it work, and I go out and drive four

475
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<v Speaker 6>or five hours a night part time, and it's it's

476
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<v Speaker 6>it's social time for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you talk to the human beings. I get that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to people.

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<v Speaker 6>I get that exactly. So to clarify a couple of

480
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<v Speaker 6>things about what you guys were talking about before the

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<v Speaker 6>nine thirty YEWS book, Sure, relative relative to how much

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<v Speaker 6>money of the fair that drivers receive, Yes, as far

483
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<v Speaker 6>as Uber goes, I can't speak for Lift, but for Uber,

484
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<v Speaker 6>we get between ninety two and ninety three percent of

485
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<v Speaker 6>what the customer's fair is. And Okay, the way that

486
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<v Speaker 6>I know that is that we can using the app,

487
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<v Speaker 6>when our ride is done, we can actually drill into

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<v Speaker 6>we can actually drill into that ride and they give

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<v Speaker 6>you a high graph of this is how much you

490
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<v Speaker 6>were paid, and this percentage went to insurance, this percentage

491
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<v Speaker 6>goes to Uber for you know, corporate profit. This percent

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<v Speaker 6>went to such and so, and they pick it down

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<v Speaker 6>by the percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Right something. So you're telling me that, you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that as an Uber driver today. Uh and this isn't

496
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<v Speaker 2>it because you're a first a Nubia, a new driver.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what Uber drivers get if they drilled down.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me it's ninety two, between ninety two and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three percent. Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It does change a little bit from day to day,

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<v Speaker 6>but they tell you when you take the wrine, you

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<v Speaker 6>you know you received.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me let me get Kelly's Let me get

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to. We got a real difference here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just get Kelly's quick comments on it. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to debate it. But Kelly, uh, John is

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<v Speaker 2>saying something significantly different than what we talked about before

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<v Speaker 2>the news.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the drivers that I talked to are not

511
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<v Speaker 3>getting that much. You know, like I said, when they

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<v Speaker 3>started out, they were getting a higher percentage. Now they're

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<v Speaker 3>lucky to get uh you know, maybe thirty percent. Sometimes

514
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<v Speaker 3>they sometimes they've worked all day and they've had two

515
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<v Speaker 3>rides and they've made no money. So you know, are

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<v Speaker 3>you relying John on what Uber and lifted telling you,

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<v Speaker 3>or do you actually are you able to see from

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<v Speaker 3>your app what the passenger paid and what you received?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I am not able to check. We we only

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<v Speaker 7>we only get to see what we get paid. But

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<v Speaker 7>I've checked with riders. Geez, if you don't mind you

522
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<v Speaker 7>telling me I'm getting paid twenty one dollars and seventy

523
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<v Speaker 7>six dollars twenty one dollars and seventy six cents for

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<v Speaker 7>this ride to Providence, just so that I can keep.

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<v Speaker 6>Track, Do you mind telling me how Coober is trying you?

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<v Speaker 6>And they'll I've had people tell me, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty five dollars or twenty four dollars, twenty six whatever

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<v Speaker 6>it is, and it checks out.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll check out, right, John. I appreciated your call. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a complicated subject, but I'm past my break and

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't get a break, I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>driving Uber next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks John, Please call again. I enjoyed the conversation. Will

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take a break. My guest is Kelly kobb Lemire.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a group called Master Ivers United. They are against

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<v Speaker 2>Question three, which would allow Lyft and Uber drivers to unionize.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be back. We're going to try to get everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in between now and ten o'clock. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking at ten o'clock about the state of the presidential

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<v Speaker 2>race two weeks from right now. You'll be hearing different

542
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<v Speaker 2>broadcasters tell you this particular state went to this candidate,

543
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<v Speaker 2>this particular state went to that candidate. So we are

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<v Speaker 2>now within the two week and I thought tonight we'll

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<v Speaker 2>check on state of the race and we'll talk with

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Kimball, Emerson College's premier and I mean truly premier polster.

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<v Speaker 2>Great guy and a great polster. Back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're getting tight on time. Let's see what we

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<v Speaker 2>can do with everybody. We'll try a quick question of

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<v Speaker 2>comment Mike and Boston. Mike. Next on Nightside, Dan, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you. I'm doing great, Mike, We're tight on time.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll get I'll be quick here.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm a big supporter of unions, but I thought the

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<v Speaker 9>whole business model for Uber was flexibility for the workers

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<v Speaker 9>when they only work when they want. So how does

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<v Speaker 9>that square with you know, uh, you know the ago

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<v Speaker 9>debate will be independent contractor versus employee. And then I

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<v Speaker 9>had a quick comment on waiting timerect.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead, So I mean sorry, no, go ahead, Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay. Well, actually, Mike, thanks for the question. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's one of the things that Uber and Left

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<v Speaker 3>have been really like pushing, Oh, you need flexibility, flexibility

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<v Speaker 3>and benefits. You need to be independent contractors in order

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<v Speaker 3>to have flexibility. But actually, flexibility is not tied to

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<v Speaker 3>your employment status. You can be at W two worker

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<v Speaker 3>and be flexible, you know. So to me, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>fear tactic. You know, they're not going to put Uber

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<v Speaker 3>and Lyft drivers, as you said, their model their business model.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't put them on a schedule, so you know

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<v Speaker 3>you are going to be flexible. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying, oh, you know, only to maintain independent contrast,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the only way to obtain your UH or

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<v Speaker 3>keep your independent contractor status is to be flexible, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to be an independent contract and not an employee.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just because they don't want to pay you. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want to pay you to be an employee.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to give you the benefits and the

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<v Speaker 3>rights that they would pay you if you were an employee.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's just a fear tactic.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, fair point. One quick comment you mentioned about being

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<v Speaker 8>paid for waiting time. My niece is a flight attendants

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<v Speaker 8>one of the major airlines in the bomb. I was

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<v Speaker 8>shocked to find out she doesn't get paid.

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<v Speaker 9>Till the door closes, so forty five.

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<v Speaker 8>Minutes while they're they're passenger, they don't get paid.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing, right right.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother's an airline pilot, the same thing. They don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't get any waiting time either. But you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's negotiating. They're a union, so they could negotiate that,

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<v Speaker 3>but for some reason they they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to keep rolling. Got to keep rolling it, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much. I want to get to a couple

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<v Speaker 2>more calls. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Jannis and Melrose.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane's got to be quick, real quick, go ahead, Jennis.

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<v Speaker 7>One thing I didn't understand reading the ballet question is

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<v Speaker 7>why the state is so involved.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if ups drivers had an agreement with their company.

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<v Speaker 3>Massachusetts doesn't have to approve it, does it. And they've

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<v Speaker 3>all served the public. I just didn't understand there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of arbitration with the state, and I didn't, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess in order for them to they tried to get

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<v Speaker 2>it through the legislature. Didn't work, and so therefore they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to They're trying to get the right to unionize

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<v Speaker 2>through the.

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<v Speaker 3>CRE and we don't. We don't. We want to do

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<v Speaker 3>away with arbitration. So absolutely, yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks Jenny, good question, good clarification question. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very good. Mary and Lynn. Mary next on nightside, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to get you in.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Mary, h good night.

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<v Speaker 10>Then, thank you for that opportunity that you've given us

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<v Speaker 10>today to open, you know, and talk about this. Look,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna talk to you. I'm an uber driver and

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<v Speaker 10>I'm gonna talk to you me personally. Look, I just

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<v Speaker 10>got home. I left home this morning at six o'clock

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<v Speaker 10>in the morning then and I just got back home.

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<v Speaker 10>In order for me to make my goal, I have

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<v Speaker 10>to work twelve to fourteen hours. Okay, okay, what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, Mirry, if I can, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to rush you. You've called in light.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you did call in. How do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you going to vote as an Uber driver

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<v Speaker 2>on this question in favorable?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes? Yes, we need is an abuse they charging our

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<v Speaker 10>allergic to a people and giving us thirty percent and

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<v Speaker 10>forty percent. Sometime. I drove fourteen hours Monday through Saturday

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<v Speaker 10>and Sunday. I treat myself. I drive a hour in

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<v Speaker 10>order for me to make money. I done thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 10>ride with Uban, thirty thousand ride with Uber and a right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm flat out of time, but yours was a great call.

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<v Speaker 10>You.

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<v Speaker 2>You express yourself really well in the passion. We can

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<v Speaker 2>hear it and feel it. Thank you for what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>and please keep listening to Night's Cyber. We'll always be

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<v Speaker 2>there for you, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 10>I love to be a Uber driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 10>I love you, Mary, I love the people, I love people,

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<v Speaker 10>and I love my job.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mary, I gotta let you go because I'll

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<v Speaker 2>lose my job if I don't, if I don't break

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<v Speaker 2>time for the news. Thanks Mary, Doug, Okay, have a

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<v Speaker 2>great night. Thank you, Mary. Kelly. We got about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seconds left. I give you a thirty second elevator pitch

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<v Speaker 2>why people should vote against question three.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the biggest things that we didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 3>but Ryan tapped upon is that we want a union.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're pro union. We're just we're against this particular

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<v Speaker 3>union because this union. Okay. The creators of this ballot

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<v Speaker 3>initiative is IDG Independent Drivers Guild. They were set up

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen by Uber. They receive large sums of

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<v Speaker 3>funding from both Uber and Lyft and along with SEIU.

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<v Speaker 3>So common sense will say a union must be financially

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<v Speaker 3>independent of their employer, and this is not the case

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<v Speaker 3>here when drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the end of the ride here, so I

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<v Speaker 2>got to stop you. We will talk to someone on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of this issue tomorrow night during the

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock hours, during the nine o'clock hour, Kelly, I

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much, and we will follow this closely.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me on. I appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Here comes the ten o'clock news. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside with Dan Rabiack. Right on the other Side'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking with Spencer Kimball about the state of

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<v Speaker 2>the race. You know what race I'm talking about. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a poster for Suffolk University.