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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody walking back to Challenge podcasts, all about the

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Challenge as always. I am Brian sitting at his home

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letting his children run amok in the other room since

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it's spring break, sitting in Minnesota letting her dog run

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a monk because it's always spring break when you're a.

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Speaker 2: Dog, carlon San Diego, and.

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Speaker 1: Sitting at work, not able to go on spring break?

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What what Zae is always working? Hey, everybody at her

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challenge pot dot Com joined the Facebook group, but you

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can also join our Patreon, which, let's be honest, doesn't

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get you a whole up.

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Speaker 2: But hey, one speak support the show we have.

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Speaker 3: We have a long off season coming up. It'll get

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you something.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I'm talking it's not over promise.

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Speaker 2: Over promise, underperform the challenged way.

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Speaker 3: We'll volunteer Carlin to make you all stand in glass.

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Speaker 1: People are able to buy records yet, so.

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Speaker 4: I was actually gonna ask you about that. I'm actually

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just looked our records I ordered us are four records.

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They shipped out March thirty first. I was hoping to

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get them today, But you know, guys, I'll send you

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guys a pick when I get them. I'll maybe next

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the day or two. I'm sure I don't know how

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to get these able to be ordered. I tried to,

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like I thought there was a way on Patreon to

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like sell something. I don't think there is unless I'm

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missing it. So I think I'm just gonna have to

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go old school. If you want one of these LPs,

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send us a message on Patreon. Remember I used to

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do this for stickers and stuff. Send us a message

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on Patreon, and we'll just have to do it the

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hard way of PayPal something or other. I'm really guessing

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like five people are gonna want these things, so I

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don't think it'll be that big of a deal. So

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just send us a message via Patreon and we'll sort

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it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out eventually.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we need to figure out something with

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the with the four that come in for us, like

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maybe the signed versions and you get like a special note.

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We'll do that as something so.

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Speaker 4: Well, even even I want everybody to sign it. So Carlyn,

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you're gonna be the hard one to figure out. Be caves.

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We're gonna have to shippingm to you and then you're

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to ship them back. But yeah, we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll figure out something.

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Speaker 3: No, it might be fun because I think I'll be

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the only one going to challenge me is. But I'd

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order a fifth one like personal money, and just give

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as many challenges as I can to sign and then

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we could like auction it off for the podcast.

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Speaker 4: That would be cool. Yeah, they're only like thirty bucks. Yeah,

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I'll put the link up. Anybody could order them. If

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if you want to just order it directly, you can.

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They're like thirty it's like thirty one bucks or something.

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Or if you want to order it from us, then

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we'll sign them, you know, we'll like figure that out.

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Speaker 1: Sign it sweet tea, or put his phone number.

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Speaker 2: And social Security number. Maybe most of those things. If

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you go back through the the Annals of Time, you

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can find them on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Three or nine, three six seven.

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Speaker 2: The huge difference between men and women. There's no way

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in fucking hell. I was putting my ship out there

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like that.

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Speaker 3: Everyone college's number is four or five one.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I was going through my uh spare room the

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other day. I still have an envelope full of old

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challenge stickers. What nice because Tim put the like season

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that we were doing on the first set of stickers

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then ordered like a billion of them, so we couldn't

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really use them after that. But if you want, if

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you want, uh, stickers from Challenge when we covered Invasion

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of the Champs.

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Speaker 4: Included with the record holy shit, eight year old stickers

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all they're not even sticky anymore now they're just errs.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty funny. Cindy Saw was just like,

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what is this like that that?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Carlin's got an old one.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple like my pro abortion sticker, but a

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couple of those, but they're like the round ones that

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specifically say challenge and then gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those the sticker that I have, the rectangular one

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with all of the different things. Mind, I like that

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one a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the round one was for that event

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that you were at Zachi, the one up, the one

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that the first one will feed the bowling one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have a one of one, which is yeah,

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I have the the one in the metal holder for

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winning the trivia.

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Speaker 4: That does it say I'm a challenged person?

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Speaker 3: I think it says that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was our joke for season one.

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Speaker 1: All right. I don't know who's got notes?

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Speaker 2: So who won him?

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Speaker 4: No, Colin's got him. No, I got him. I got him.

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You know I got him. This one's episode ten. Last

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time you didn't, Actually you were the one that didn't

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have the notes last time. If we're if we're going there, Karling,

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you pulled, you pulled the I typed them, but they disappeared.

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Speaker 2: No, I still still had the notes. They shouldn't show

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up the last time that someone forgot entirely? Was you

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thinking that I was going to do them and you didn't?

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I didn't? It was your week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but still yeah, but still shanadad on. They give

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the intro, who cares?

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need a boom roasted sticker.

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Speaker 4: And a yeah it's still yeah, I still boom roasted

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from a Last Man on Earth. But it's it's a

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hilarious one.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: This episode starts off with the house barbecue, which I

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kind of like these. I don't know, a little casual

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house barbecue. Sam's working the grill. What's yeah?

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Speaker 1: I want to house barbecue.

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Speaker 4: This looks like a fun little activity. This is way

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more fun than the club nights.

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Speaker 1: I just want to do stuff, and nobody ever wants

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to do anything like memorial.

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Speaker 3: There's maybe if we bring food over to Tim's housewife,

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we can do a barbecue.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't want to. I don't want to host anything.

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I would go to something. That's the I think that's

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the problem. Nobody wants to host it. They just want

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to go to it.

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Speaker 1: We should just take some charcoal down to Bradley Park

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and use one of those outdoor girls there.

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Speaker 4: Leave all the trash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: And you're good. We already seen Nicole and Melissa flirting.

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Speaker 2: Recurring theme every time they're on the screen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how would you guys feel if you're if you're

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the girlfriend at home? Nicoles thrilled. Yeah, I must. They

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must have a I don't know. They must have a

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weird understanding.

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Speaker 3: Either that or they're no longer together. Once the season

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Speaker 4: Air, Oh do you know ezact, do you have social media?

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Speaker 3: I'm at all but all right, I'll have to look

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into that if I can see it.

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Speaker 4: All right, And then we get Frank, Adam, Melissa and Nicole.

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They're sort of all speculating as to what happens next.

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Is there like, is the final right around the corner.

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What happens to the non star holders sort of a

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lot of people just sort of speculating about what's next

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in the game. None of it means anything though, because a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of people thinking that they're at the final already,

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and unfortunately Adam being the voice of reason here being like,

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it's not the final, Well, it sort of should be.

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Speaker 4: If you're going by this gold Stars thing, because there's

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five teams left and four Stars, it's like, if you're

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going to cut somebody, this is when you would do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, again, we've done we went over this last week.

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They don't do that shit. The last time that happened

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was in the Island. They haven't done it since. Like, yeah,

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that shit's not going to happen. As much as we

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want it to happen, it's never gonna happen like that totally.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into more about why the Stars are a

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completely stupid mechanism this season as we as the episode

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goes on. Yeah, Davon talking to her daughter, it's cute.

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I like these parent things. I know I'm stand alone

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on this, but I thought it was cute.

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Speaker 2: I did actually like this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was difficult.

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actually able to interact. And it's the first time that

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we've seen her. There was something about this one that

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Speaker 4: It humanized Davon more to me, just like see her daughter.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, do you know that. I think, I really

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do think it's because her daughter was a little bit

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older and like able to actually interact, because almost every

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other one of them, the kids are like toddlers a baby,

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and I have no interest in this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And this also, Davon is also starting to talk

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about her and Shane's sort of tumultuous partnership, and we

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see some flashbacks to Shane not speaking so kindly to

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Davon and a warning sign of things to come this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yea friend of the show.

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Speaker 4: Oh means in a way this season, right, love you Shane,

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But come on, buddy, get it together.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: Well that's it for the intro. We are already onto

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the challenge. If you can believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was real quiet, yep, super quiet.

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Speaker 4: CT is gotta yell. This challenge is called pressure Sandwich. Carlin,

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what do you do? How do you play this game?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Honestly, I don't even remember. How do you play

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this game? Oh? Yeah? This is the thing where they

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had to hold toilet paper rolls in between each other. Essentially,

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each team was given basically four giant rolls. It looked

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kind of like toilet paper rolls if you talked to

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Adam and they are not actually connected. You have to

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sandwich them between yourself and your partner with just the

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pressure of the two of you leaning into it. And

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then throughout the course you have to pick up six

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more pieces, so you have a total of ten, and

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then you have to take those ten to the end

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of the of the course and stack them all on

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a pole in a specific order to form a There

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there's a snake pattern on the outside, so it's a

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puzzle at the end. And if you drop them outside

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of the zones where you can pick the pieces up,

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you have to go back to the previous spot and

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run back and forth and all that.

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Speaker 4: Generally, I think this was a fun challenge. This is

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one that sort of anybody could win, but there is endurance,

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there's some strategy. I'm kind of into this challenge.

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Speaker 2: I did actually really like this challenge.

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Speaker 4: Zach will any thoughts on it?

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Speaker 1: I felt like this is one of those it's probably

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fun to do and not fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 1: There was some complications people yelling at each other, but

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Speaker 2: Frank and Sam, who Yeah, Frank and Sam's don't any

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Speaker 1: Don't do anything, So then like that's not interesting at all.

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Speaker 2: I guess honestly, I kind of wish that they'd shown

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Frank and Sam a little bit more, because they didn't

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drop any of their pieces. It would have been interesting

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to kind of see them actually, like really working together.

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of the bullsh a lot of the drama on this

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episode because I felt like it was a lot of

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the same thing, of like people just screaming each other

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for the exact same thing over and over again. I

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Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah. Shane says he is a good emotor, both

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of them are, which he describes as a good thing,

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but he says it's when he feels anxious he makes

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those around him also feel anxious. I think that's actually

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a very negative trait and one that you shouldn't be

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bragging about or like leaning into but I felt Shane's

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frantic energy. I would not have done well working with

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him here.

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Speaker 2: I felt Shane's frantic energy through the TV screen as.

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Speaker 4: Well, Like, yeah, dude, his eyes were intense, even in

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the confessionals, even like those crazy Brad eyes. I'm just like,

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what's going on? What's happening behind those eyes, dude, Something's

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going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just seems to not be able to communicate

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very well with Davon.

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Speaker 1: Chris said, I was a bit quiet, so I moved

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my mic a lot closer to my face. I don't

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know if this is any better or not. Yeah it is, yes,

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perfetputer everybody. So I'm still still adjusting stuff.

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Speaker 4: Kiss that mic, make you out with the mic.

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Speaker 2: If you're on Patreon, you can see it. Deep throat

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in the mic.

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Speaker 4: Pulling a put on Donald Trump on that mic.

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Speaker 1: It's got a big head on it, That's what she said.

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Speaker 2: It feels liberated today.

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Speaker 4: Who me, Oh, Carl, you know you didn't even notice. Uh.

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Frank is as surprised as anybody that they're winning. Uh,

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he's genuinely surprised. Sam is like, I don't mean to

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say this in a Negati way. But she's sort of

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like the anchor. She's she's like she's guiding this this post.

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She's being a good partner. I mean, it's they they

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just kind of rocket.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else struggles, right, I thought you meant she's the

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anchor in a negative way. She is the anchor in

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a positive way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, in in other episodes she has been the

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anchor in a negative way. So it's fun to see

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her be a positive anchor in this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I just don't know how to describe it. But

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she even says like she just sort of guides him,

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like she just has to sort of push him in

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the right direction, and you know. And so yeah, they

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don't struggle, they they they they never drop their pieces

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from what they said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just fly through this thing too, like

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they're going slow and study but not as slow and

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study is like Nanni and Turbo. Yeah, so they seem

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to like they seem to truly understand how to move

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through this thing. It was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 4: And Nannie Truood did pretty well too, but dropped it

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a couple of times. And yeah, still were quite a

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quite a ways behind Franken say him but ultimately they

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do all get to the puzzle. They're all sort of

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working out at the same time, except for Melissa Nicole,

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who are who? Who the fuck knows where they are?

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But Frank and Sam Win.

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Speaker 2: Yep, did anyone else know that? Notice that Frank put

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the top piece on upside down? No, so it was

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supposed to be From the looks of that top piece,

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it looked like it was supposed to be a snake

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and the top piece because they kept saying, like a

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few different times, people said that it was the head,

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so it looked like a snakehead, and when he put

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it on there, the snakehead was upside down. Pretty sure

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it was supposed to be the other way, but they

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gave it to him anyway, and they.

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Speaker 1: May even fix it, but they're like, well, we don't.

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We don't need to have that on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they also didn't really show just how far

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behind any other team was, so it may not have

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mattered in any way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, gave him the Jenny treatment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jenny did a similar Jenny. Yeah, I didn't finish

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one of the it was last season.

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Speaker 2: She had her pieces were switched. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, at the end of the Challenge. They're all standing

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out those you know, those tiered systems or whatever where

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DJ is award in the winner and stuff. And I

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didn't see what happens. I don't know if you guys did.

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Speaker 2: So it looked like so the tears are like the

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second box looks like it's about three feet off the

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ground and as so, Adam is standing up there already

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on one side like with the space in between him

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and Davon, and the space is where Shane is stepping

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up into and it looks like Shane may have just

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been really exhausted and stepped up and kind of like

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wobbled a little bit. And so from from what because

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I went back and rewatched that piece like two or

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three times, it looks like Adam like puts his hand

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out to like hold on to him, to catch him,

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and Shane is just not in a mood to be

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touched by anyone. And Shane like he he was frantic

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all over the place about everything and tells Adam and

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a not so nice boys, don't don't grab me like

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that or what was it, don't pull on me. Yeah,

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And it really did look like Adam was just trying

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to like help steady him.

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Speaker 3: That's why I thought as well, Shane's.

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Speaker 2: Reaction was definitely over the top. Adam's reaction back to

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him was even more over the top. Like like a

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few episodes ago, Zach, you said that Adam is not

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super dramatic. This is the kind of thing where Adam

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is dramatic.

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Speaker 4: Adam is absolutely dramatic.

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Speaker 2: Where if someone like Shane is already upset, he's been

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screaming for an hour, Adam knows this. Adam has commented

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about this, and instead of just like brushing off what

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Shane says to him and being like Okay, dude, sorry,

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he screams back at him and it's like dude, yeah,

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you're all about peace and positivity, like fucking douche.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Adam I hate annoyed.

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Speaker 2: Me, especially this episode, because he has so many fucking

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confessionals every episode.

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Speaker 4: This guy is just so inauthentic. I just don't like

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this guy.

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Speaker 3: I have thoughts on Adam both that for later.

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Speaker 1: All right, see how I did fantasy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, brace yourself, we'll be somebody. Somebody pulled ahead of

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you will feed. Oh somebody's not in last somebody's not

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in last place.

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Speaker 2: We'll look at it later.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we went very poorly all around. Shane threw a

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ten potentrum. He storms off, and TJ just presses on

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and says, all right, we're gonna ward the winners without Shane,

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and the winners are Sam and Frank. Yep, let's see

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anything else that we're missing here, I don't think so.

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All right, Well, hey, we're on a club night, that's right,

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all right, we see Nanny. She is talking to Frank,

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and as we know, Nanni and Turbot want to be

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the House vote. But I think she's talking to Frank

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a sort of a backup saying, hey, if we're not

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the House of will you send us in? Will you

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make us your vote?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: And I think Frank is totally open to that because

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he still wants the strong teams, right, So you've got

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to assume if the House isn't gonna vote for Nanny

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and Turbo, Frank probably will. So yeah, probably smart of

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Nan need to do this.

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Speaker 2: I was Frank had a confessional I think it was

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here where he was saying, you know, I do still

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want to do this like it is still you know,

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to the benefit of my game, but I also kind

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of want to be real fucking Petty and send in

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Shane and Damon and oh god, that would have just

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been so fucking funny. Yeah, I loved that he said that.

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Speaker 4: Frank is an asshole. He is great TV, but he's

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such a prick and I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not denying that. He doesn't even deny that. He

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said no first came.

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Speaker 4: In, Yeah, and we're I mean, as he throws in

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Steven Adam later, that's his big prick move.

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Speaker 1: But I love it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, way, I'm like, I'm I'm rooting for Frank.

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I don't give a ship. H. We get the Book

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of Turboisms, you know this Turbo Zachi some up this

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turboism for us.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Turbo is a big fan of fish, because a

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fish does not try to be a lion, it doesn't

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try to be a wolf. A fish realizes it's a fish,

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and you can trust it because you know, it never

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tries to be something that's not, whereas people, you know

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you can't trust because they might think they're wolves, but

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really they're just pussy chickens.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Humans can look like humans, but they can act like snakes. Yes, yeah,

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he's deep, This motherfucker's deep. We get the super awkward

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conversation about the fucking star from All Stars four. Who

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in the fuck gives a ship about this fucking star exactly.

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Speaker 2: The most insane is that Adam still doesn't fucking understand

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that Steve stole his star because Adam was an asshole

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all season. Yeah, like he did that because you were

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a dick. And I'm pretty sure he stole a start,

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Like he did it because you were a dick. He doesn't.

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You don't deserve an apology at all of anything. If anything,

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you should be apologizing to him. I was so annoyed

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by this. He's so annoyed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm annoyed too. I'm annoyed too.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is fucking jackass.

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Speaker 4: This is super obnoxious that Adam, he and Shane are

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complaining about it. So then he confronts Steve and it's

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just like, Hey, I don't know if you wanted to,

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like maybe apologize, I don't know. Maybe I would have

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apologized for that I did.

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Speaker 2: I could say I commend Steve for his reaction to it.

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His reaction is like, I'm not gonna tell him I'm

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sorry because I'm not. Yeah, because he fucking deserved it.

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But I need to figure out a way to say

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essentially I'm sorry without actually saying I'm sorry, but in

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a way that makes him feel okay enough with whatever

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I say. He did a really good job of like

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beating around the bush like uh uh, well, like I

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did what I had to do. Yeah, I didn't want

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to necessarily do it to you, but I did what

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I had to do.

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Speaker 4: Like Steve handled this is as well as well as

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anybody could have I think, And yes, that was exactly

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a strategy. Carl, a weaker man would have just been like, oh, Adam,

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I'm so sorry, like I shouldn't have done that to you.

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I do like that. Steve is sort of like I'm

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not gonna fucking play that game. Expect this.

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Speaker 2: No, because he did not deserve an apology in any way,

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shape or form. He's a fucking moron for thinking that

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he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just David said, listen to another pod, and

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they went back and rewatched the episode from Oh where

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Steve took Adam Starr, and their conclusion was that Steve

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did not betray Adham as he claims.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't like.

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Speaker 1: No Adam or yeah, Adam threw Steven multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it was. Yeah, it wasn't that he

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stole a story so that he threw him in multiple

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times that season. Someone he claimed who was a good

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he was good friends with threw him in multiple times

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and then was so fucking but hurt by the time

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he actually got a star Soul one.

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Speaker 1: He sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he does. Avery, you are on Moron for dating.

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Speaker 4: Now listen, I want to preface this by saying, I

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like Davon on this Davon and Shane fight. I'm on

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Davon's side entirely. That being said, Davon was sort of

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shitty here when she's talking to Frank and saying, like

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with Shane, super passive aggressive, right, Oh, my partner thinks

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it's cool to go on TV and blah blah blah. Oh,

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Davon like, this is not this is not the way

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to do this.

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Speaker 2: What this is what you think this is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is not great. This is the one

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time I'm not on Davon's side on the episode. What

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do you guys think Shane handled it exactly how I

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would have stormed off and threaten to quit.

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Speaker 1: Because I literally have had conversations with my EXE shit

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like that where yeah, she's just complaining about something and

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I'm like, well, I can fix that for you. I'll

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just not do whatever. So that is Shane literally just

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being like, hey, I'll fucking go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was like, you know, I never like when

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people threaten to quit the show and stuff, but I

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00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:21,519
do like this is the time. I was like, Shane,

475
00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:23,519
I get it, dude, Like this would piss me off too,

476
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:28,880
Like that's really disrespectful and fucking rude. But anyway, so

477
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200
he does threaten to leave, he talks to producers and stuff.

478
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,039
Gets like one of these weird dramatic moments. I don't

479
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,920
anything to say about it for you guys.

480
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,079
Speaker 1: Well we do have since we live in the future,

481
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,319
we do know that. The next day when they have

482
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,759
their talk and she's like, you really did pack up

483
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:47,759
your suitcase, he's like, yeah, it makes for good TV.

484
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: I think that was partially a makes for a TV

486
00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,039
and partially like, let me see if I can play

487
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,119
this off type of thing.

488
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shane seems clearly that going he's going or something like, Yeah,

489
00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:06,559
he seems genuinely frantic and little manic, and he's he's

490
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,240
crying in the confession, like clearly crying. The confessionals like

491
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:10,640
there's something happening with that guy.

492
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, this game seems to be affecting him a lot

493
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:18,000
more than any game that we've seen him play in years.

494
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,559
And yeah, it doesn't make a whole it does feel

495
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:24,720
like something is going on in behind the scenes because

496
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:28,160
like his relationship with Veronica is the fact that he's

497
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,119
paired with Devon, Like these things wouldn't normally get him

498
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,400
the way that all of this shit is getting him.

499
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe he's worried what the producer's going to

500
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,880
show with the whole Cory situation.

501
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 2: I still beve I don't know. I I don't know

502
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,200
if that whole situation is even true. So I don't know.

503
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. We can get to that in

504
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
the social media stuff, because I'm sure you have some stuff.

505
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,480
They've been fighting pretty openly Frank and Shaw on social media.

506
00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:00,599
Speaker 2: Well, okay, has Corey weighed in on this whole thing

507
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,160
at all?

508
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh, Zach, you got it, you got information on the

509
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,599
Cory side.

510
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: I think there was like early in the season. I

511
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,039
think Corey spoke up and I am exactly what you said.

512
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:13,640
But I think I think his stance is basically like

513
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:16,359
I'm not going to get too deep into it, but yes,

514
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,279
something did occur.

515
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: Okay, if Corey has weighed in on it, then whatever

516
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:26,720
he goes with. I like, if however he feels in it,

517
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,680
then we'll go with that. But if it is literally

518
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,119
just Frank and Shane going at each other with this middleman,

519
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,960
then I think it's all bullshit because it's just it

520
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:39,119
just sounds like like bitches being bitches.

521
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've been going at it this week,

522
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,200
but I mean it's not been anything a substance. It's

523
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,880
basically like you suck, no, you suck.

524
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Also that's also a T shirt being bitches?

525
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:52,559
Speaker 4: What about you suck? No you suck?

526
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,559
Speaker 2: All right, isn't it be bitch? And wasn't that your

527
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:01,519
potential podcast?

528
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

529
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:05,599
Speaker 2: I always found that entertaining.

530
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,319
Speaker 3: All right?

531
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,559
Speaker 4: So the next next day they're waking up alcoholists out

532
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,039
of their system, so Shane and Davon talk a little

533
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:17,640
more reasonably and rationally. Shane talks to Davon and he says,

534
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,400
word for word, I typed this out because I thought

535
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,119
it was an interesting way to put it. He said,

536
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,599
I lack the skills to effectively communicate through a challenge

537
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:28,400
with you you can tell you like practice that before

538
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,880
he approached Davon.

539
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Probally a good idea that he practiced it.

540
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,039
Speaker 4: Hey, I did that all the time all married, So yeah,

541
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,759
it's the thing you gotta do. This conversation seems like

542
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,759
it went well, like they're you know, it's cut it's

543
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,039
obviously cut up, but they're like laughing through parts of it.

544
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,799
It does seem like they're genuinely making amends here. Do

545
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:44,839
you guys buy this too?

546
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

547
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,599
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean sort of. I did love that, you know, Kevi.

548
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,079
Near the end of it, we see like Shane being

549
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,319
like all I've ever wanted was to be Davon's friend,

550
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:55,359
and then Davon's like, I don't know if we'll be

551
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,079
friends after this.

552
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. I really got the impression Davon is squashing it

553
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,200
for this show. She's willing to put this behind us

554
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,960
for the show, but really kind of wants nothing to

555
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359
do with Shane after this season is over. Is kind

556
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,400
of my impression from her.

557
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's how most of these relationships

558
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,279
in this house go, very.

559
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 1: Much A best John.

560
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and who knows, because you know, people always say

561
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,279
it and then they back down, but Davon has been

562
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,599
vocal on social media this season that this is her

563
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,640
last time on reality television and then she's done. So

564
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,240
if that's the case, I wouldn't be shocked if she

565
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
like cuts a lot of connections with reality TV people.

566
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: You would be shocked, or you wouldn't be shocked.

567
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be because would be one thing, like if

568
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:41,640
she was playing to come back, I could see her

569
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,359
being more open to like being friends with Shane and

570
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,640
other people, but she might just kind of be like,

571
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,599
you know, I'm not in that world anymore. Why do

572
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,039
I need to maintain a relationship with you.

573
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I never believe it. And people

574
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,880
say they're retiring because they always they always come like

575
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Wes Is retired several times, Lee Roy just retired and

576
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,119
then played three more seasons. Big retired and played two

577
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,920
more right after. I kind of I don't buy this

578
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,480
retiring shit. I never believe people.

579
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,559
Speaker 1: Chris sas Shane was always the most athletic gay. I

580
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,079
think he did not understand what his identity should be

581
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,279
with Frank and it constantly threw him off.

582
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:16,599
Speaker 2: That could be true.

583
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 4: I do feel like there's something about Frank that's that's

584
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,640
triggering Shane, Like there's just something weird there between those two.

585
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,680
I don't know.

586
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:28,519
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of all the former gays we had,

587
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:30,359
do we think Shane was the most athletic.

588
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 2: I think Tyler was the most athletic. But it's been

589
00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:38,960
a long time since we've seen him, Evelyn. Yeah, but.

590
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: We're just comparing men to men. Yeah, it's been so

591
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,759
long I came there. But like, in my mind, I

592
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:50,079
think Dan Rensey was athletic, but I could be making

593
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:50,400
that up.

594
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: Is the athletic, I can't. I mean, he was in

595
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,640
Battle of Sexes, but that wasn't like a physical one,

596
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:57,880
you know.

597
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, say all those games were usually Yeah, it was.

598
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,559
Speaker 3: In shape, and in shape doesn't always mean outlet Yeah.

599
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think of the of the gay

600
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,920
guys that we've had on the show, I think Tyler

601
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,160
would probably have been number one, and I think Corey

602
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,039
Lay comes in at number two. Shane may come in

603
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,519
like as part of the older crew. Shane definitely qualifies

604
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,440
in that top three. But yeah, I could see I

605
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,359
could see Frank really throwing him, and I don't know

606
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,920
that we've seen Shane and Frank on the same season

607
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,880
together and they are they according to this season, they're

608
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,920
two bitchy gays. Like it may just be that they

609
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,720
like their personalities don't mesh very well. And I don't

610
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,960
know if they've been around each other much, so it

611
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,880
could be him that's throwing him off. But it also

612
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400
feels like there's something outside of the house that might

613
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,640
be doing something, because yeah, he is super manic this season. Yeah,

614
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880
very strange or very frank not even manic, just very

615
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,240
frantic this whole season.

616
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shane's different than we've seen him. Yeah, for sure.

617
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,079
Speaker 2: I hope that whatever it is has been figured out.

618
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480
I hope that he's good now. But yeah, this season it's.

619
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:09,519
Speaker 3: Just one if it's just as simple as like, you know,

620
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,240
he lost Ashley early, he lost Sylvia early, like all

621
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:14,279
of his people went home.

622
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:17,359
Speaker 4: Maybe he just true that's what I was gonna advert alone.

623
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,839
And he just lost Veronica too. Yeah, that he just

624
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,759
keeps losing the people that he that he needs to

625
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:23,519
be around, and the people that are left don't like it,

626
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,279
like Davon and Frank. You know, he doesn't have this support.

627
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,599
Speaker 2: And he came in like the Lavender Ladies alliance was

628
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,960
almost complete when he came in.

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so David says, it's it's the conflict of the

630
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,160
infrared helmet versus the porn.

631
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,039
Speaker 4: All right, So now we get Nicole, Melissa, and Nichole's

632
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:50,160
girlfriend Kim via phone. You see him.

633
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Cuddling or like kind of great performative.

634
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: Doing some weird shit in the gym with the yoga

635
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,519
ball between them and stuff, and then the video call.

636
00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:58,759
I don't know, what do you guys think about this whole

637
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,279
thing As a whole, I felt.

638
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:05,119
Speaker 1: Like talking about wanting a family and all that shit,

639
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,839
and I just said that going Nicole, you do not

640
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,240
need to be responsible for a child whatsoever. Yeah, in

641
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,079
your life.

642
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: She does not. And also it just to me, it

643
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
felt very performative. It felt like, here, let me show

644
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480
you and everyone else that I have a girlfriend that

645
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:21,839
I'm on good terms with.

646
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like interspersed with her

647
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,440
flirting super openly with Melissa, and even in the confessional

648
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,519
says like, Hey, yeah, I'm flirting with Melissa, but it's

649
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:36,240
no big deal. And you know, is this do you

650
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,200
think Nicole is being honest that this is They've carved

651
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
this out in the relationship, and Kim is gonna be

652
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,200
okay when Nicole gets.

653
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Home, I wouldn't be okay.

654
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: That looked pretty intimate to me, those moments between Melissa

655
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160
and Nichole and the obviously security footage, Like there's no

656
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,079
other people in the room.

657
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's looking that. You know, this may not

658
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
actually make it to air. Yeah, it was very strange.

659
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been looking while we've been doing the podcast.

660
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880
I don't see anything online about the update status of

661
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,759
their relationship, so I don't know if they're still together

662
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:11,000
or not.

663
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: But okay, well they wouldn't have a baby, so there

664
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:21,799
doesn't always mean they're gonna get a baby, but they're

665
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:24,599
talking about it, Nicole and Kim. I can't see Nicole

666
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,839
as a family lady. But what do I know? All Right,

667
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:35,000
with that, we'reund of the house vote, t J opens

668
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,640
it up to just whoever wants to talk and talk

669
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:39,920
and Nonnie and tur will make their case. They say, please,

670
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,920
we want to go in. Everyone just says, okay, no problem,

671
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,279
and that's it. They're going in.

672
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: This was a pointless segment.

673
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

674
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, last week Nicole and Melissa said we want to

675
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,039
go in, and that was the end. Like they didn't

676
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:53,160
even vote yeah.

677
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like they were trying to do the

678
00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,200
same ship that they did with the Shane and Davon

679
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,640
a few weeks ago, or Davon, well, well what if

680
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240
we don't don't agree? It's like everybody like if everybody

681
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,559
agrees and just fucking do it real quick and then

682
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440
move on to other things, because.

683
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,359
Speaker 4: Well, let me let me throw this hypothetical, guys. I

684
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:14,240
think David posed this earlier in the chat, that this

685
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:18,160
was the one nomination where the stars might have mattered,

686
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,519
right frank, Like the house, the house could have said, sorry,

687
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,519
noni interval, You're just not gonna get one. So we're

688
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,920
gonna put two star holders together. But then the question is, well,

689
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960
what happens to the star do in tur but just

690
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,480
get it? Or you know what I mean? Like, these

691
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,400
are the questions we don't know, and so of course

692
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,640
the Challengers take the easy way.

693
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,319
Speaker 2: I also, I don't.

694
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,559
Speaker 3: I think I think we get a three team final,

695
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,279
then I think two teams go home.

696
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: Really you think so?

697
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: I think so?

698
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,359
Speaker 1: So?

699
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,279
Speaker 4: You think if the players played it right, we could

700
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,240
have gone. We could have had a two team final.

701
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:55,039
Speaker 2: That would have been awesome.

702
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: It would have been an interesting way to I mean,

703
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,839
it would have made the gold Stars make sense, because otherwise,

704
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:01,839
every time they played the gold Stars, it never ends

705
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,759
up making sense. And I wonder if it's because the

706
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,079
players sort of pussy out at this point and they

707
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,000
just don't want to pull the trigger because they don't

708
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,119
know what's gonna happen with that other Star. I don't know,

709
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,039
it just it just is weird to me that it's

710
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:15,880
never fucking mattered. It's never once mattered these stars.

711
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: I think we could get it down to three. I

712
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,480
don't know if we could do a two team finale

713
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,599
because I think the way the Stars went back into rotation,

714
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,519
the most you could do is limited to three.

715
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: Okay, this would be the so this would be the

716
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,840
one chance they have to get rid of a star. Yes,

717
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,599
otherwise it'd be back at the next challenge. Yeah, yeah, okay.

718
00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I hadn't put too much

719
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,360
thought into it, but yeah, it would have been pretty

720
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,920
awesome if if Frank and Sam had decided to put

721
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,320
in a star like put in a different star holder.

722
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,920
And the only downside is that, like for the House vote,

723
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,440
you have to get all of the other teams to

724
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,559
figure out which of the Star holders you're going to

725
00:34:58,559 --> 00:34:59,000
put in.

726
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,679
Speaker 4: And yeah, Star Wars don't want it.

727
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: Nanny and Turbo was the easy, the easy pick because

728
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,760
then there's no blood on anybody's hands, and it's Frank

729
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,159
and Sam enough to make that decision.

730
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: Yep. But it also removes the power of what the

731
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,559
star should be in the game. Otherwise, what are we doing?

732
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:23,559
Why was the star ever a fucking thing anyway?

733
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

734
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: Well, with that, the nominations are essentially over. Nanny and Turbo.

735
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
They have a quick talk. They're just essentially trying to

736
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,199
get each other hyped up for the thing. I don't know,

737
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,480
not very interesting, and then we get like Steve saying, yeah,

738
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:41,639
we were promised that we weren't going to be thrown in,

739
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,800
but I gotta strap up, I gotta be ready, and

740
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,639
Sam also says, yeah, we promised Steve and Adam we

741
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:48,280
can't throw them, and so we're trying to decide what

742
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,639
to do.

743
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,559
Speaker 2: The fact that Adam thought that this was even a

744
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,920
real promise is insane to me.

745
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: Yep. But we do get a flashback of the promise

746
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,559
where Frank says, if I win, I won't throw you it.

747
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,199
Like he does say that fucking word for a word

748
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,360
Frank and then shakes his hand like absolutely, says.

749
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:11,639
Speaker 2: It totally fine. Still can't believe that he actually believed it, Like, no,

750
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,559
I know, he's a moron for actually believing it.

751
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: I do too, all right, And with that we're on

752
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:27,159
elimination Nonny Turbo. They walk down to the floor. TJ

753
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,440
says Frank, Sam who you're thrown in? Frank says, yeah,

754
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,719
it's it's Steven Allam, like, of course it is, and

755
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,039
uh And then his confessional Frank is like, yeah, I

756
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,719
know I said that to him, but I'm trying to

757
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,400
get rid of the strong players. I've said that since

758
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,599
the beginning. That's always been my goal this whole time.

759
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,760
Of course, that's what I'm gonna do. And they'd be

760
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,320
stupid if they believed me. Love it, Love this, I

761
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:52,360
fucking love this line from Frank to you guys. Is

762
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,400
that universally loved.

763
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know that you hate Frank Wilfe,

764
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,960
but I love Frank, at least to us. I mean,

765
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,400
I know that Andy back up and actually finish a sentence.

766
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:08,920
I love that. Since the beginning of this game to

767
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,320
us in the confessionals, he has said, I will lie cheat,

768
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,000
backstep whatever to make it to this final, and I

769
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:22,280
love that he has not once faltered at any chance

770
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,960
to do that. I think it is absolutely fantastic. It

771
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:26,920
is the first time that we have seen a player

772
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,000
come in say it outright, I'm going to be a

773
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:34,760
complete dickhead, and then do it the entire season and

774
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,079
still get people on his.

775
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: Side and never apologize, never to apologize.

776
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: For hi, that's very true, never apologize for it, but

777
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
still get people on his side, still make alliances who

778
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:47,039
are willing to ride with him the entire season.

779
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that this is the first time.

780
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: It's not a super sustainable thing to do, which is

781
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,400
probably good reason why he said that this is going

782
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,159
to be a one and done.

783
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,199
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he can come back and

784
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,920
do this again. But this was the first time I

785
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,159
think we've seen that somebody successfully rallied weaker teams to

786
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:05,280
gang up on the stronger teams. And that has been

787
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,000
We've seen it all season, and I like.

788
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 2: That so many times. This is the first time that

789
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:11,880
it's like, really truly worked.

790
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some shade here. Frank did well. Wes spent

791
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,639
his entire career trying to do and failing.

792
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: Out absolutely totally. Zach, absolutely, did I not just say that?

793
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,199
Speaker 3: Did you say?

794
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? I literally just said, this is what Wes has

795
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:28,920
always tried to do. Frank was finally able to.

796
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: We were listening.

797
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,679
Speaker 4: I'm a woman, I know I listen to me, only

798
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,239
listen to men.

799
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: I was just a comment in the chats.

800
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Gotcha?

801
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Sydney literally had that happened to where they work?

802
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: Did she really? No? Good?

803
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

804
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 4: But that's exactly That's exactly it, Zach and Kahn, You're

805
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,039
both Right's right?

806
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,039
Speaker 3: She gets the credit?

807
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:57,599
Speaker 4: All right? So this game is a little weird. Dom

808
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,079
is the right word. I don't I didn't even write

809
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,840
down the name of it. It doesn't matter. There's there's a

810
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,039
weird guessing game, like you had to guess if there's

811
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,440
a star or not real stupid ReBs.

812
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:12,159
Speaker 2: This game was so fucking dumb.

813
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guessing part in particular was was dumb.

814
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,599
Speaker 3: That's I don't know if it's the best elmination, Chelsea's

815
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,679
I love this elimination?

816
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: What wrong with you?

817
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 3: Zach? I was with you guys when they first explained it.

818
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,559
When they first explained it, I was like, Oh, this

819
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,400
is basically like banana in the box. I love Banana

820
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:31,880
in the box.

821
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: Banana in the box.

822
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: It's like a British game show where it's basically like

823
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,679
one person has a banana in the box and they

824
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,079
look and they have to convince the other person whether

825
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:47,440
or not to trade them boxes. But I was like,

826
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,920
I love this, but it's gonna be stupid as an elimination.

827
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: It was stupid as an elimination.

828
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,119
Speaker 3: No, I think Steven Adam made it fun. And I

829
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,480
said earlier I was gonna talk about Adam later. I

830
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,519
refell in love with Adham during this elimination.

831
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: I hated him. This is where I hated him the most.

832
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,119
Speaker 3: I hated him all of a sudd until this point.

833
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,880
I'm like, oh my gosh, Adam is fun again. Okay,

834
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,800
why why.

835
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:15,079
Speaker 2: Do you like this? Oh he's not fun, Zach?

836
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,079
Speaker 4: Is it defend defend, defend your stance? Why what is

837
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:19,559
fun about him here?

838
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 3: Just because I feel like this could have very easily

839
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,719
been just staying there with like poker faces, extremely boring,

840
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,840
and Adam and Steve made it fun and not even

841
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,280
had a confessional. But like, I'm so mad that they're

842
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,039
making this fun because I can't concentrate.

843
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: I think, Carl, can you why why didn't you like

844
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239
ste Adam during this part?

845
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: I just I just didn't like this entire game. I

846
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,400
hated this entire game. I fast forwarded through most of

847
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,360
it because I couldn't.

848
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: Deal with nothing about Adam particularly well.

849
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,519
Speaker 2: I really dislike how over the top he is with

850
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:56,639
fucking everything.

851
00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: That's everything, because it comes across as very inauthentic and

852
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,599
annoying authentic. When he guessed that they had a star

853
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,440
and he didn't or whatever the fuck and he's like

854
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:09,239
jumping around like shit baboo who It's like, fucking you

855
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,440
guessed he had fifty to fifty shot, dude, it was

856
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,880
a coin flip, Like, get calm down. I don't know.

857
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Everything he does seems inauthentic. It seems like he's playing

858
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719
it out for the cameras. I just don't like that guy.

859
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,400
I just don't like him.

860
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree this this did seem fake and an inauthentic,

861
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,880
But we got confessional early on of them saying we

862
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,239
don't have good poker faith. The only way we can

863
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,960
win this is to be over the top, fake and inauthentic.

864
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,960
That's our strategy.

865
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't care it'd annoyed the fuck out of me.

866
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,079
Speaker 4: Same. I didn't like it. I didn't like it doing.

867
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:42,679
Speaker 1: This elimination was dumb. I checked out almost.

868
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at the end of it because they won

869
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,239
this stupid star guessing thing, they had one less yoga

870
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,519
ball to transfer with these big long sticks, and ultimately

871
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:54,760
Steven Adam win it. Non Ay, Turbo, Yeah, they do, Okay,

872
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,920
they try their best, but.

873
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: It was also why the fuck do you have? Why

874
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,920
are these two things so so drastically different. We're gonna

875
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,360
have you answer stupid questions about whether there's a star

876
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:06,760
in a box, and then we're gonna have you transfer

877
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,360
yoga balls like you couldn't there wasn't like something.

878
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,599
Speaker 4: That was The challenge has not yet figured out how

879
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:19,280
to make these eliminations both fair and interesting, you know,

880
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,000
because they don't want to make them too physical, you know,

881
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,159
for these all stars ones. But then it's shit like this,

882
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:29,159
which is just like not interesting to watch. Yeah, and

883
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,000
that's about it. The only note that I have here

884
00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,360
is that Turbo is also very dramatic. He goes to

885
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,199
one of his confessionals and the guy that she's just

886
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:40,800
looking down. He's like, we just we cannot win He's

887
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,760
just so defeated because they're like two yoga balls behind

888
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,880
a fucking throwing yoga balls in the big fucking thing.

889
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,519
Speaker 1: Who gives a shit?

890
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: So weird. And then that's it, Nonny Turbo. They go home,

891
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:54,639
they lose, Steven Adam, they win, and TJ tells them

892
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:58,039
everybody is going to the final, which of course they do.

893
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:02,079
There's only four teams left, so mm hmmm hm and

894
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:06,920
the end.

895
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: So as I was watching it and we see who's

896
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,400
gonna be in the final, I honestly just sat and thought,

897
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,079
I'm like, oh, I don't give a shit who wins.

898
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,079
There's not one team I really care about.

899
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: That's what you gotta lean on your fantasy teams. It's

900
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,760
like just who's gonna give you the most points, that's

901
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,880
who you want to win. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I

902
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,639
don't care either.

903
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

904
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 4: It's uh that these are maybe my least favorite people.

905
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,199
I'm not rooting for anybody. I don't care about this.

906
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:45,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am not thrilled. Uh.

907
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Part of me would like Shane to win just so that, yeah,

908
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,920
I can rub it in Frank's face.

909
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,199
Speaker 4: Shane's first Shane's first Final is pretty sweet. Let me

910
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:56,000
throw this one out. You though, Guys, what if Sam

911
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,079
plays this game twice and wins it twice? What if

912
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,639
Sam comes out of two time fucking champion. That would

913
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,320
be kind of right, that'd be kind of fucking cool. Actually,

914
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,400
so I'm kind of rooting for that.

915
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,199
Speaker 2: I just she'd have a pretty fucking stellar record, the

916
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,360
fact that she's made the final both of her seasons.

917
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Shane's first final ever for US and

918
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Sam twice.

919
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,199
Speaker 2: Yeah for a fluff player two for two one finals, Like, yeah,

920
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:22,119
where'd you go?

921
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: Girl?

922
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: Not bad?

923
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm maybe I'm rooting for her just because

924
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,079
the weird statistic that she would represent there.

925
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, she's definitely she's one of those players

926
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,679
who would never have made it to a final if

927
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:38,639
she didn't have the team or partner that she has.

928
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,480
So yeah, it's still insane to me that this is

929
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:42,880
Shane's first final ever.

930
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Due it says Shane's first final ever brought to you

931
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,199
by the Infrared Helmet.

932
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,079
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I am interested to see Shane in the final.

933
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:57,079
I wish this was a like a real final, like

934
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,400
a because I'm you know, it's gonna be an All

935
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Stars once It's not gonna be as good. But I

936
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:02,320
would like to see Shane in a good one because

937
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,760
I think he's athletic. He's good at a lot of

938
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,760
this stuff. We'll see how this goes.

939
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi, everybodyhead over a challenge pot dot com. Joined

940
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,519
the Facebook group. You can also join our Patreon. What

941
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,360
do people get on Patreon? Tim?

942
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,079
Speaker 4: All right? We get one tier. It's five dollars a month.

943
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,599
You get access to pre shows, after shows, literally years

944
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,679
of content. You get access toward discord, where I post

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the episodes to download, so you don't have to pay

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for these episodes. You can steal them, which you should do.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Tip admits this.

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Speaker 4: Fuck the police. It's Trump's economy. Stop spending money. Make

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everybody suffer until Trump is gone. That's how we beat this.

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And also we say your name. I'm on the wrong tab,

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so thank you to Elena, Alvin and I, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily,

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Emily Garrett, Greg, Gretchen, Jackoline, Jamie, Julie, Maverick, Nelson Nelson's

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New's not Nelly t but hi Nelson welcome. Yeah, Nelson Santos.

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Sorry if we're supposed to say last name Nelson, also uh, Patty,

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Peter Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Scott Shack shake our smiling

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Jack Stand, Stephen and Stone.

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Speaker 2: Thanks everyone.

958
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Speaker 3: You Nelson, you need you need to join us in

959
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the chat next week and let us know how old

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you were when you saw your first guy.

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Speaker 4: Very important.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay. Over on Spotify, we did get a couple

963
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comments on some episodes. Nicole asked on the episode ring

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around the Rival, I agree on all points you mentioned. Also,

965
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when did y'all get a goat on the pod? I

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don't know if someone was eating, but it sounded like

967
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a goat eating corn flakes at the end.

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Speaker 2: L O l okay. So I went back and listened.

969
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This was for last week's episode. I went back and

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listened to try and fare out with the goat. Thing

971
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was Zach because he's like he's delayed when we're listening

972
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to him. He like cuts in and out, and there

973
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were a few times where like he's starting to say something.

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It also was because I was so stuffy last week.

975
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It was me either blowing my nose or like trying

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to not blow my nose into the mic at the

977
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same time that he was doing that. So it did

978
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sound a little funky at the end.

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Speaker 4: Those internal snot snot sucker upper things, those things you do. No,

980
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that's what I do.

981
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Speaker 1: That's interesting story of Carl. But that is in fact wrong.

982
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:42,719
This comment was from a month ago an the Rival.

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Speaker 4: Oh did you listen to it?

984
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: What was the I do remember there was an episode

985
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,960
probably about a month ago where I was eating had

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very many eggs, and you guys called me out, being like, Zach,

987
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what are you eating?

988
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Speaker 2: That's probably what it was.

989
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: I thought it might have been the episode where I

990
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up board and just went and got some chips and.

991
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Speaker 2: It well, but you you meaned for most of that.

992
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: I was from last season, so that's when I was

993
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really over the show.

994
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,559
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's true. Was that hammer was that? I'm

995
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pretty sure six years ago it was.

996
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Speaker 4: You know that that was Wolf because Amanda was there

997
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,519
bitching at him, crunching chips right into the microphone.

998
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god. When that happened, I was very happy

999
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
she was pitching you, because uh, I just set my

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whole body on edge.

1001
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Speaker 4: Yep, it was great.

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Speaker 1: It's great. That's even said Wolf is going to listen

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to an episode. Lucky you get him. The host of

1004
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,719
the recording it's true. Nicole also left a message one

1005
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,320
day ago on the last episode, the episode you were

1006
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,920
talking about, and it says, I don't think the Zoom

1007
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,679
contact list for the players get paid. Everybody knows what

1008
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baby talk means between couples, and then showing Casey gives

1009
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me the ick. Uh lol, Miss san Diego wins, Tim.

1010
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: I didn't get that, Carl and san Diego, I just

1011
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:06,639
got that.

1012
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,559
Speaker 4: No, I get that too, wins. What though, you win?

1013
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: The art wins the argument that we were having between

1014
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,199
about the baby talk thing.

1015
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 4: Oh man, I.

1016
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Speaker 1: Well that's just what she thinks, the Zoom people getting

1017
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:27,519
paid or whatever. Yeah.

1018
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. We also got a comment the other day, someone

1019
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:33,440
yelling at Tim saying, Tim, keep your cat inside.

1020
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not going well, guys, it's not going well.

1021
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: Keep your fucking cat inside.

1022
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't do it. No, I can't do it. No,

1023
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:42,519
that cat does what it wants.

1024
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,559
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have is the cat waiting at the

1025
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:49,400
door when you like let him in in the morning.

1026
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1027
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you need to get a.

1028
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 2: Fucking cat door or like put a box out there

1029
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,000
for him, you know, something, so that he can be

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protected from the element.

1031
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 4: I'll think about it. I'll think about it, I'll think.

1032
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,159
Speaker 2: About Okay, so we're gonna go onto the the Fantasy

1033
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:16,159
Leagues Host League. Oh, I'm still winning, still surprising.

1034
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:19,199
Speaker 3: Even more, I believe.

1035
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm at thirteen twenty four, Zachu Manana is

1036
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,239
at twelve twenty one, wolf He's at ten fourteen, and

1037
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,119
Big Uncle Sweet Tea's at seven point eighty. I am

1038
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,559
down to Oh great, I'm down to just Jane and

1039
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:38,400
Davon uh stellar going into this. I'm in the film miserably.

1040
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:40,559
Speaker 1: Win though.

1041
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: You got this on lock true.

1042
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:53,679
Speaker 2: Zach has Adam, Steve and Nicole. Wolfie has Frank and Melissa.

1043
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 4: I got Sam, You've got Sam. I got Sam, only Sam.

1044
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,960
Come on, Sam, let's go Sam.

1045
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: I mean if Frank and Sam take it, then it

1046
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:04,880
could be good.

1047
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: I'm still not gonna I can't win because Frank, because

1048
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,840
who got who? Has Frank give you some some like?

1049
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:13,280
I don't think I can even get third place. It's

1050
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,239
it's kind of remarkable that I've been in fourth place

1051
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:19,960
every game, every time, like every week. I've never I

1052
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,519
don't think I've ever been third. It's weird. How is

1053
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:24,199
it possible?

1054
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 3: I feel like it's crazy. I feel like you guys

1055
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,599
usually like do we need the host league or do

1056
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:32,360
we just see the group like we need the host

1057
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,800
like for this exact reason, we need to see Kim,

1058
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,800
like finally get at least third place.

1059
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: At least at least third place for one fucking week.

1060
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: Jesus to not be a complete asshole when you're picking

1061
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,159
your team.

1062
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,639
Speaker 4: Listen, my teams on my teams on paper are never bad, Carl,

1063
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:48,719
and your team is the worst.

1064
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: Last season was awful.

1065
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: I don't remember last season.

1066
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,199
Speaker 2: This season and you let you let who was a

1067
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,559
stove pick half of your members, like, doesn't even try.

1068
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,599
Speaker 4: I did do that, but this time I FESSI and

1069
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:02,880
Turbo I did. I had strong teams, but this was

1070
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:05,440
this was this, This was the season. This strong tams

1071
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,599
went out fast. Well, we all have a couple of

1072
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:08,880
weak people on our teams, but.

1073
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: I definitely I had I had a weak team. I

1074
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,599
don't know how to my team is still around.

1075
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had you had like the worst if you

1076
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,559
look at it on paper, it's the worst ever.

1077
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: Run as Shane and Davon. I don't know how. I

1078
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,760
don't know how I survived this ship.

1079
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,639
Speaker 4: When you when you guess. At the start of the season,

1080
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,000
I swar to Christ this is it's almost pure luck.

1081
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:29,400
It has to be, and I just have the worst

1082
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:30,199
fucking luck.

1083
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,559
Speaker 2: I truly don't know how my team has made it

1084
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,960
so well. It makes no sense to me at all.

1085
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,360
All Right, so publicly, the one that everybody actually cares

1086
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,920
about first place, we have take the stars and run.

1087
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:50,760
Second place is Kiki one more time, and oh I'm

1088
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,440
in third?

1089
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: Cool running away with it this season? What was that

1090
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:58,719
You're running away with it this season?

1091
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: Last year? Last season, I was running away with it.

1092
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,280
This season, I'm trying real hard to get back up

1093
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,360
to the top. That that week that I got like

1094
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,320
negative whatever. However, many points just fucked me royally and

1095
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:16,880
dropped me way down. The challenge pod hosts, we are

1096
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,440
sitting in fifth. We came up to spots this episode.

1097
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:27,559
Zachie Bananas went down one. He's in seventh. Let's see,

1098
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:33,000
we've got big Uncle sweet. He came up three places here, yes,

1099
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:36,400
three places in beating beating.

1100
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:41,519
Speaker 4: Wolfy suck it, Wolfy, suck it. Suck it boys.

1101
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,039
Speaker 1: It's it's exciting.

1102
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So we've got what two episodes left?

1103
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

1104
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Is it two?

1105
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:56,559
Speaker 4: Episode final, we're guessing, right, there's nothing. Do you think

1106
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,440
they're gonna purge? You think it's gonna end up being

1107
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:00,480
three at the in the last episode.

1108
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: I think the next episode there's a there's an elimination

1109
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,039
of some sort.

1110
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,599
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it looks like Frank is crying in it, so.

1111
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: Because he's a little bit.

1112
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 4: It's easy to look at him crying and think, well,

1113
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,239
they've got to be the ones eliminated because he says

1114
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,800
something like it's just not.

1115
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: Fair that I don't know that I took it as

1116
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,559
there and this is spoilers for everybody that it doesn't

1117
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:26,840
like the next week on Uh, I don't know if it.

1118
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,920
To me, it wasn't like a, oh, this is unfair,

1119
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,039
like we're having to go home early because of this.

1120
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,440
To me, it felt more like we have been doing

1121
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,920
so well for the last few episodes and like maybe

1122
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,119
they got some bonus, but then like Shane and Davon

1123
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,760
overtook them on a run and are now like sitting

1124
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,920
in front of them, and he's just exhausted and pissed.

1125
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 4: It seemed like, knowing what I know of Frank, they're

1126
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:53,960
going to start losing for and it's gonna be Sam's

1127
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,800
fault and he's gonna not not take that. Well, that's

1128
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,920
kind of what I suspecting. Is that happened most possible?

1129
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,679
Speaker 3: I mean, did you guys see that there's a clip

1130
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,800
for next week where it looked like they're going up

1131
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,840
a bit of a sand dune. Yeah, Frank pulling Sam?

1132
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, And well it's better than pushing, right, he

1133
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,239
learned a lesson. Don't push her up, pull her pull

1134
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,920
her up. It's very different.

1135
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I think she's gonna have a real rough

1136
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,199
time in the next two episodes. We might actually see

1137
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:27,519
old Frank come back, like full old Frank come back.

1138
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: Ok.

1139
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well All Stars are typically less running, but there

1140
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,119
is cardioc endurance is a is a part of it,

1141
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:39,800
and Sam is the least equipped. Yeah, so yes, I

1142
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,719
think it's gonna be We're gonna see some issues.

1143
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Old Frank will come back and Nights will reach

1144
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:50,599
down from the heavens. Zach, do you want to read

1145
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:55,800
some uh social media stuff? Yeah?

1146
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 3: So Mark Long has pulled up. So for All Star

1147
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,199
six casting spoiler here, Then, assuming they get picked up

1148
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:10,519
for season six, we can see Mallory from Paris oh Man.

1149
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, see Tea's season.

1150
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 4: Yes, and she did. She did one episode of The

1151
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,320
Challenge right like a billion years ago.

1152
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,679
Speaker 3: I think she I think she had one season right

1153
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,280
after her Real World season, then never came back.

1154
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: She was super hot. She's a model, if I remember correctly.

1155
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: She was from like fifteen minutes away from where I

1156
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,559
was living. She was from this plane and I.

1157
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: Was looking, Oh, no shit.

1158
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: I was like, she's probably right down the street right now.

1159
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: I have a chance.

1160
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,519
Speaker 4: So wait, Mallory is supposed to be a big, a

1161
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:46,800
big All Star six.

1162
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,079
Speaker 3: Draw apparently, so yeah. Mark said, as long as they

1163
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,880
get picked up for season six, Mallory seems on board

1164
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,719
to be part of it.

1165
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: That's a desperate, desperate plea from Mark, because nobody gives

1166
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:01,320
a fucking shit about Mallory. I guarantee that I don't even.

1167
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: Know who that is.

1168
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: Maybe the next one, maybe the next one'll gets you

1169
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,360
more interested. He didn't guarantee it for All Stars, but

1170
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,639
he did announce that he has a meeting later this

1171
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,440
week with EV.

1172
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,679
Speaker 2: That's bullshit. I've heard I have a meeting with EV,

1173
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,880
but there's no way in fucking hell that woman is

1174
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,840
coming back to the show.

1175
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: Well, but Coral did a little brief video for Mark

1176
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,119
that seemed like maybe Coral might be open to this yup.

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00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: And also, you know, I don't know if it's All

1178
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,559
Stars delayed, but from Mark's original season, he did hang

1179
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:33,360
out with Kit this week for the first time in

1180
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,199
like twenty years.

1181
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,159
Speaker 2: In all honesty, like I could see these people like

1182
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:41,199
doing a promo video for him to try and get

1183
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,480
hype for the show, and then with like with the

1184
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:46,880
understanding like here, I'm gonna do this promo video for you,

1185
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,119
I'm gonna get paid X amount of money and there's

1186
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:51,440
no way in hell I'm showing up.

1187
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,159
Speaker 3: Like totally cal I mean, maybe Karl's just trying to

1188
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,480
bamboos foozle us all, but she basically every video said

1189
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,000
you know, like in comm if you want to see

1190
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,000
me back, if there's enough demand, im there.

1191
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: What it seems to me. And I say this with

1192
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,079
with much respect and love for Mark Long, I think

1193
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:10,920
All Stars on the Chopping Block. I think Mark Loong

1194
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360
is getting desperate. He's also begging people to watch this

1195
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,719
season on MTV and the season is doing very poorly

1196
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,000
in ratings. But he said, like, you know, the future

1197
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,400
of the show relies on you streaming this show, which

1198
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,440
is fucking impossible to find yes and stream. So it's like,

1199
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,480
that's not this is not looking great.

1200
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: And I saw a post from him, I think this

1201
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,000
was in the last day or so, saying like, if

1202
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,880
you really won all start six, you guys all have

1203
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,360
to watch tonight's episode.

1204
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:36,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1205
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does seem like it is on the chopping box.

1206
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: If MTV didn't make it so fucking hard to watch

1207
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,679
it this season, then you might actually have more people

1208
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:49,079
to watch. But I mean, this is why word, this

1209
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:51,559
is what Tim is stealing it because it's so fucking

1210
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:52,239
hard to get.

1211
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not that hard. I just purchased the whole season.

1212
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean if you don't want to pay

1213
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:00,840
for it, yeah.

1214
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,639
Speaker 3: Uh. In other social media news, uh, there's a new

1215
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,760
reality show coming to Netflix called Pop the Balloon. It

1216
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,519
is a dating show with reality stars and has been

1217
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:15,719
confirmed Johnny Bananas will be one of the daters on it.

1218
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:18,679
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, who cares.

1219
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,599
Speaker 3: Zachi Bananas? That's who cares?

1220
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:23,239
Speaker 1: Zach?

1221
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,719
Speaker 4: I love you know, I love you. I love Johnny

1222
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:29,920
Bananas as much as a man should. That dude's had

1223
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,360
some work done. His face looks super puffy in those

1224
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:41,519
promos for that, like, oh Man's getting He's got that,

1225
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,920
He's got that pumpkin face going on.

1226
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: Far Abraham's the other name they announced for anyone that's

1227
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,519
a Teen Mom fan.

1228
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, she also has had a lot of work done.

1229
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:54,119
That woman does not look anything like herself.

1230
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,039
Speaker 1: She looks like a skeleton.

1231
00:59:56,199 --> 01:00:00,559
Speaker 4: They gotta show that, call that show pumpkin faces too

1232
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:01,840
much classic surgery.

1233
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,119
Speaker 3: You know, it is crazy because she is definitely a

1234
01:00:04,119 --> 01:00:07,400
hot mess. But I saw like a compilation the other

1235
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:11,480
day going through No, it's going through all the kids

1236
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:14,440
of like the original Teen Moms, and it really does

1237
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,480
seem like Fair's daughter turned out the best of all

1238
01:00:17,519 --> 01:00:20,800
those kids. So somehow she actually seemed to raise a

1239
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,519
decent child.

1240
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: She probably wasn't around, That's probably why.

1241
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: That could be.

1242
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:31,159
Speaker 2: I never watched those shows, had never any want to

1243
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,760
watch those shows. Still have no want to watch those shows.

1244
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: I stayed there.

1245
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: I just sort of know of her through pop culture stuff.

1246
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: She was on some hipop culture you mean her private videos.

1247
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:48,039
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody knows all that she was on a.

1248
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: Couple's therapy reality show. Yes, And it was very obvious

1249
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,480
right away that she just signed up because it was

1250
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:57,440
a reality show.

1251
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:03,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was on a celebrity Big Brother UK as well.

1252
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: Wasn't Amanda big into teen mom or something she used

1253
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:08,639
to watch?

1254
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I casually watched it back in the day night

1255
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,320
tunned in again a little bit when Corey got on it.

1256
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,719
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. Yeah. I never got on a Team

1257
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,920
Mommy either. Yeah. MTV like they didn't hit me with

1258
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,159
any of their reality shows other than The Challenge and

1259
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:34,079
like they're shitty ones like Next was that that one? Next?

1260
01:01:33,519 --> 01:01:35,679
Speaker 2: The dating show where they get off the bus?

1261
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I always liked it when somebody would get

1262
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,880
off the bus and then not even say anything and

1263
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,119
the person just be like next. It's like just basically

1264
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:43,960
saying like you're ugly.

1265
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: It was tender in real life.

1266
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like we only had three options, like

1267
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,119
three people on the bus, that's it.

1268
01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: I really liked Parental Control. That was my favorite of

1269
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,880
those dating shows.

1270
01:01:56,639 --> 01:02:01,119
Speaker 4: I was about to say Room Raiders. Yep, Rental Controllers.

1271
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,639
Speaker 2: Room Raiders was peak dating show.

1272
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: Robin Robin from the Challenge did an episode of Room Raiders.

1273
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,639
I remember she was the raider, you know, like because yeah,

1274
01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:11,239
that was like the prize you got to get on

1275
01:02:11,239 --> 01:02:15,119
a date with Robin if she picked your room? What

1276
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:17,960
was the parental control, Zach? Was that that the parents

1277
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,639
picked the dates for the kids? Is that right?

1278
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,159
Speaker 3: Yep? And then there's also date my mom.

1279
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:25,079
Speaker 4: Oh I don't remember that one.

1280
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:29,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Guys would go out on dates with the

1281
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,119
girl's moms and then have to pick which girl he

1282
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:34,239
wants to date without ever seen or just based on

1283
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,239
how cold their mom was.

1284
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, is as good as Milf Manner, which is

1285
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:39,599
on R.

1286
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,159
Speaker 3: I have not watched that yet. I want to watch Milner.

1287
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:50,159
Speaker 1: I haven't. But so they have all these all these

1288
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:53,079
older women come in and a bunch of young dudes. Uh.

1289
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:56,400
The weird thing is there was one season. I don't

1290
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,840
know if they did this for all of them, but

1291
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,079
there was one season where all the old women brought

1292
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:03,840
their young sons onto the show and they would hook

1293
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,000
up with other women. One of them was Lisa Wilcox,

1294
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,360
who was Alice from The Nightmare on Elm Street Movies.

1295
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: Holy shit, she's a milk How old is she now?

1296
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: She gotta be like.

1297
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,199
Speaker 4: She gotta be old. She's gonna be like sixty.

1298
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:23,719
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, yuess. She brought her son with her, so

1299
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,039
he hooked up with some old women and she looked

1300
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:26,920
up with some young.

1301
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, Now, what if there was a Zaddie derivative

1302
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,679
where it's this dude took up with young chicks.

1303
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: Maybe. I think that was the first season a little wolf,

1304
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,000
And I don't think they necessarily brought their kids because

1305
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,800
I know in the first season they didn't realize their

1306
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,639
kids were the young men, and the men young men

1307
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:45,199
didn't realize the moms were their moms until they got there,

1308
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:46,719
and it was like a surprise reveal.

1309
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: Carlo's eyes are popping out.

1310
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,519
Speaker 2: It's all is just so unappealing.

1311
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,039
Speaker 1: I just think it's hilarious that this is a real

1312
01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:58,480
reality show where it was like fifteen years ago thirty

1313
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:04,119
Rock made a joke about a show called millf Islands.

1314
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: Basically, what's funny is Bravo is about to do I

1315
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,480
think it's called Love Hotel. They're doing four of the Housewives,

1316
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:19,199
like the notoriously single housewives are going to a basically

1317
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:22,760
a hotel with a bunch of single dudes and I

1318
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,519
don't know, spending a week there or something like that.

1319
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,199
Speaker 3: Dumb way back in the day, did you guys ever

1320
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:32,679
watch was that one. There's something about Miriam.

1321
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I'm not a big fight. Ever since

1322
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,440
Room Raiders, I don't care about any of the dating shows.

1323
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,679
Speaker 4: I don't either. You didn't watch like the VH one ones, Carlin,

1324
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:43,360
I love Money, I love New York.

1325
01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:45,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, like in in that era the

1326
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:49,679
Room Raiders, the I love that what was it Rock

1327
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:53,719
of Love and Flavor of Love like those ever since

1328
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,159
those shows where it was like peak ridiculous dating show,

1329
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,320
ever since then, I don't care about any of them,

1330
01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:05,760
especially the Bachelor and Bachelorette. That ship's so incredibly staged.

1331
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never watched the Bachelorette ship that I loves.

1332
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,320
I loved I love Money, but yeah, I love New York,

1333
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,920
Rock of Love and Daisy of Love. I never watched

1334
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:20,239
any of that stuff. Mean, millionaire Megan, he's a millionaire?

1335
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:25,559
That was that transcend that transcended day. Megan wants a

1336
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,079
millionaire was fucking crazy.

1337
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,559
Speaker 2: I don't know that, No know, I watched that one.

1338
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,119
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1339
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: Megan from one of the Rock of Love, Yeah, got.

1340
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 3: Real chance of love.

1341
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:41,599
Speaker 1: And then the guy that wanted the one Megan wants

1342
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:44,079
a Millionaire turned out to the killer, right.

1343
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, is that the show where

1344
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:48,280
the girl where the woman was killed because of the

1345
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:49,159
guy or by the guy?

1346
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1347
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,119
Speaker 2: I think I feel like there have been two or

1348
01:05:52,119 --> 01:05:53,719
three unrelated to the show.

1349
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, after that guy went on I Love Money

1350
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,199
for and then killed the girl and.

1351
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: One I think the rumor is he won I Love

1352
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,320
Money three.

1353
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,639
Speaker 3: I thought it was four, but yeah, he won it.

1354
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:08,360
But then because the maritone, they just had to like

1355
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,960
throw the whole season away and never air it.

1356
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and there's never been an episode of that. And

1357
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,239
Megan wentz A Millionaire was canceled halfway through, so you

1358
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,639
can't even see the whole thing of that. It was.

1359
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,800
It was it was canceled like halfway through because the

1360
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,920
dude killed the woman, like while this show is airing. Yeah,

1361
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,199
very fucked up. That that's kind of what killed all

1362
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:28,880
of those, right, the reality, the whole VH one reality stuff.

1363
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,239
I think that was it. It's done.

1364
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were.

1365
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,039
Speaker 2: They weren't very good at vetting their their contestants.

1366
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,639
Speaker 1: They do you like those hip hop Atlanta and.

1367
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: Whatever else, love and hip hop, love and hip hop.

1368
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

1369
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,719
Speaker 3: Well if he did you watch uh the I Love

1370
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,639
New York with David o'tunguea ont Nope.

1371
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: I thought all those shows were ridiculous. I only watched

1372
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:58,719
Rock of Love, and honestly, those were the most ridiculous,

1373
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,199
and I hated that I watched them.

1374
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: I enjoyed all of them, but I definitely thought going

1375
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,920
back and rewatching I Love New York once David o'toga

1376
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:15,639
made his name in wrestling was even funnier. Yeah, like,

1377
01:07:15,719 --> 01:07:18,119
once you realize now he's made to Jennifer Hudson, He's like, oh,

1378
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:20,480
he's went from New York to Jay hud.

1379
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:22,719
Speaker 1: Now divorced.

1380
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:28,199
Speaker 3: Oh are they? I didn't know that. Well, maybe maybe

1381
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:29,320
he can Love New York again.

1382
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: Then maybe should do a reunion. Everybody's older.

1383
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's she's just in that Villains show she was.

1384
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1385
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's pretty consistently around on the stuff.

1386
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 3: Her name's been rumored for the next season of Traders.

1387
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: Yep, uh, David said, did see WW wrestler is going

1388
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:52,599
to be one of the newbies on Challenge season forty one?

1389
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,000
I saw someone had WW by their name. I didn't

1390
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:56,519
recognize him.

1391
01:07:56,519 --> 01:07:59,119
Speaker 2: They must be Yeah, there was a rumor that there

1392
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:01,679
were going to be some broad people from some of

1393
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:05,000
the younger shows showing up on forty one. I look

1394
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:08,159
through that entire cast, not a single person is for Bravo. Yeah,

1395
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:09,760
whoever has lied.

1396
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: They're very liberal with the name WW Superstar. Because there

1397
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:17,319
was just a girl who was on the last season

1398
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:19,479
Deal or No Deal Island who said she was a

1399
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,880
former WW wrestler and she was at the performance center,

1400
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,119
but she never even like had a televised match. Yeah,

1401
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,880
she just trained and then never made it.

1402
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: As I can see, everybody's enthralled by this conversation, so

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let's uh wrap this episode up. Two more episodes left.

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Speaker 2: We're still figuring out what we're doing in the off season,

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but we will definitely be taking some time off.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there will be a short break after that. We're

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gonna sort of see where the status of season forty

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one is and then decide if we're going to do

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an old season or what we're going to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you guys have old seasons you really

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really really want us to do, maybe throw them in.

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Speaker 1: The Maybe we could set up a poll on Patreon

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and people could vote.

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Speaker 2: Oo, there we go, So yeah, throw them into the

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comments on the on this episode on the Facebook page,

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and then we will put together a poll in Patreon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah uh, Chris said, polarizing. Okay, I don't know what

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that means. Hey, uh, everybody head overy Challenge, but dot

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dot com join the Facebook group, also join our patreon.

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As we mentioned, you might be able to get to

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vote in our Uh. That's it for this episode of Challenge.

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Speaker 2: It's Brian Carlin, San Diego, Zachie Bananas.

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Speaker 1: And as Cerbo said, for one last time on this episode,

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pussy Chicken.

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Speaker 4: Got Charlie ch

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Speaker 2: Sure,