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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, Welcome to episode thirteen of A

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<v Speaker 1>Strange Thing Podcast, Big one three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so, just in full disclosure, uh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>our third attempt to do a remote recording session for

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<v Speaker 2>our thirteenth episode. Yeah, so, what's happened to Austin in

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<v Speaker 2>the world that maybe people don't know about that could

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<v Speaker 2>have caused us to social distance with each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the pandemic otherwise known as Corona Corona COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't keep going. You gotta take a heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Austin's got a you know, you can't go to barbershops,

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<v Speaker 1>so his hair is just getting out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of looked like, well you used to look

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<v Speaker 2>like Fabio.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, head is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That'sotna be funny. When you turn on your computer in there,

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<v Speaker 1>I am it was this Jesus wig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was weird you turn it on here.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna surprise you because I got

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<v Speaker 1>this nice little cool sign back here. I did you

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<v Speaker 1>one better?

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<v Speaker 2>You did? You totally did. Yeah, So we were saying

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<v Speaker 2>that before you had to take your hair off. It

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<v Speaker 2>was awful that This is episode thirteen, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>our third attempt to record episode thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, in usual.

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<v Speaker 2>Fashion, we started out with good intentions of talking about

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<v Speaker 2>dreams and we ended up derailed and talked about everything

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<v Speaker 2>better than dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we had been a little bit libated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. And plus, you know, it's been stressful.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't been able to actually be in each other's

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<v Speaker 2>presence because of the social is socialis Yeah, we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been able to be in each other's presence because of

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<v Speaker 2>social isolation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard to say straight. Three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't even had that many beers. I've had

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<v Speaker 2>like three drinks out of little drinks out of like

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<v Speaker 2>one glass, which, by the way, I'm putting this up

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<v Speaker 2>there for people to see. If they can see it, can.

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<v Speaker 1>You see it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A strange, A strange thing. I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using a lass.

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<v Speaker 2>So he If any of our listeners want these, we're

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<v Speaker 2>selling them on our website. We're selling them for like

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<v Speaker 2>ten bucks. You know, we're not trying to make a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of money off of them. We're just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>break even. And then I think shipping's expensive. It'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>be about ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you get two of them and probably send

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<v Speaker 1>two of them for fifteen and three of them probably.

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<v Speaker 2>For fifteen bucks nice, and four of them for probably twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, the people coney for six I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably another ten bucks. Every two would probably ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends how I package him, and it's expensive to

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<v Speaker 2>ship thing, especially one offs. Yeah right, But anyway, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want a strange thing glass, we have sold a

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<v Speaker 2>few of them, lucky listeners out there, let us know

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<v Speaker 2>a little website and I'll try to get the store

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<v Speaker 2>back up in operational. I've got t shirts, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>other things, and I just haven't found the time to

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<v Speaker 2>get it going. But we got to do it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, if we're going to go big time, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have thousands of listeners, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to handle, you know, sales a year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, maybe they should go buy some swag

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<v Speaker 1>and then head over to their favorite podcast streaming app

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<v Speaker 1>and follow us or like guests or hous or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell your friends about us, Say like, there are these

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<v Speaker 2>two guys they do podcast about strange topics. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>not too serious. Yeah, we're just like normal guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But we like although I had some crazy hair, yes

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<v Speaker 1>you did, to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and which brings us to another point. We are

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<v Speaker 2>using zoom and recording this to a video as well

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<v Speaker 2>as audio. So if you want to see what we

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<v Speaker 2>look like, which I had no idea why you'd want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, but if you do, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to YouTube and we're going to try to put this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be our first episode that we're ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing on YouTube, so it'll be kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're not streaming live, we're just putting it up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. We might have to edit out our ramblings.

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<v Speaker 2>We do ramble. We apologize for that, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>what we do. We're bored here in southern Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it goes. It is, and we haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>any human contact, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been it's been weird. It's been very weird. Last

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<v Speaker 2>couple months have been very strange. And you know, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about the dream topic that we're talking about, because things

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<v Speaker 2>have been so weird, we are actually diverting a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going to talk about all the eight different

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<v Speaker 1>categories and give examples through history of people who had

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<v Speaker 1>dreams in those eight categories, just as a teaser.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them was Mary Shelley, the author Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the pale student of unhallowed arts, kneeling beside

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<v Speaker 3>the thing he had put together. I saw the hideous

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<v Speaker 3>phantasm of a man stretched out and then on the

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<v Speaker 3>working of some powerful engine, show signs of life and

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<v Speaker 3>stir with an uneasy, half vital motion. Frightful must it be?

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<v Speaker 3>For supremely frightful would be the effect of any human

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<v Speaker 3>endeavor to mark the stupendous mechanism of the creator of

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<v Speaker 3>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>She was inspired to write Frankenstein by a dream. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to go deep to that because we're

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<v Speaker 2>derailing That's what this is. This is a derailment, kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like Corona derailed the world all of other plans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are derailing our regular scheduled topic of dreams, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about something that's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and it is called coronavirus pandemic dreams. It's actually a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's being studied by lots of different sleep study people

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world. There are institutes that are studying

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<v Speaker 1>this phenomenon and it's real. And so if you are

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<v Speaker 1>having strange dreams during this time because of whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not alone. There's a lot of people doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're going to talk about today. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people not being able to sleep as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, yeah, and I don't know what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>In our last episode, we talked a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>how dreams are probably a way that our mind, in

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<v Speaker 2>our subconscious state, tries to figure out and solve problems

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<v Speaker 2>or deals with stressors and that kind of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, you don't remember them, right, they

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of go away. This episode, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to talk specifically about this strange phenomena called coronavirus pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Dreams dreams, and it is the thing. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>five or six articles that have just come across on

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream channels about this phenomena.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, Austin, have you had any strange

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic dreams readers die this version. I've had some weird ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing too crazy. I had a dream about helping

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin, but that didn't really have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, and a lot of like just constantly shifting dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're in one storyline, it seems, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>same storyline a different environment all of a sudden, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're in a different place and fixing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a video game or whatever. I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weirder dreams lately, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I'm thinking about them or because maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>worried about them. There there, I know which cousin you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>They are expecting a child soon and you just had

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<v Speaker 2>a child, So there's that common link, and maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of concern that's kind of bubbling through.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing interesting about what they believe that is causing

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<v Speaker 2>these lucid dreams that people are remembering is that stressors

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<v Speaker 2>are usually dealt with at night in your rim state.

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<v Speaker 2>So usually what happens during rimstate you have dreams and

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<v Speaker 2>your subconscious is dealing with all these things, but because

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<v Speaker 2>you are in a deep sleep, you don't ever remember them.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of all the anxiety and stress that's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>people aren't falling as deeply asleep and their sleep is poor,

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<v Speaker 2>so they go into rimstate, and they have this thing

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<v Speaker 2>it's called emotional disinhibition.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a yeah, or words gore, And basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>a state where all these emotions flood your rem stay

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<v Speaker 1>and your dreams, and because you're not sleeping deeply and

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up periodically through the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, you remember them.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense. Yeah, And you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, another thing that was really interesting is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading this article about what dreams are, and

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<v Speaker 2>they say dreams are a lot like having a psychedelic trip,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're on drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the same kind of chemical thing that happens

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind and they're very similar. But because you're

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<v Speaker 2>waking up, you're remembering these trips that your brain takes.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and so people are experiencing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>these and I kind of like you, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had strange dreams. I'm not sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>Deeply, I wake up and then I fall back to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're just really disassociated. There's nothing really creepy about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, because I don't know, I'm not really worried

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole COVID thing. Yeah, I know, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>serious for a lot of people, but for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't doesn't stress me out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what does stress me out is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, worrying about my family, worrying about my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>worrying about you guys, making sure you're financially okay, making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that nobody's you know, in trouble, losing their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>financially or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my concern, and that probably keeps me awake. Your mom,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, she stresses about it. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>rule follower and and so she's very distressed that she

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<v Speaker 2>can't be around all her kids and grandkids, but she

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<v Speaker 2>wants to follow the rules. She's concerned about, like her

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<v Speaker 2>work that she does and doing a good job for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that makes her not sleep deeply. But

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<v Speaker 2>also there's a lot of emotion behind it. So she's

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<v Speaker 2>had dreams of like her mom visiting her, her mom

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<v Speaker 2>that passed, you know, last year, and that she came.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't really remember what all happened, and although she

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<v Speaker 2>was there with her, So her dreams are a little

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<v Speaker 2>more poignant than mine. But for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>especially people in like the healthcare industry, they're having very

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<v Speaker 2>specific dreams and it's creepy. It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird that like our consciousness as a whole, like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole society, like the whole world. Really, yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 1>all shifted to worry about the same thing, all at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, all of a sudden. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on a normal day, I worry about finances.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Am I spending too much money on my

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<v Speaker 1>lunch break? Is my son okay at daycare? Is my

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<v Speaker 1>wife having a good day? Do I have enough gas?

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<v Speaker 1>the human consciousness that is causing these dreams too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the energy. I don't know, Yeah, like I like

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<v Speaker 1>like if there's like this this energy, negative energy that's

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<v Speaker 1>that negative energy is causing people to dream weird dreams

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Right, And whether it's like a big woo

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<v Speaker 1>And when you do engage, like at work, now we

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<v Speaker 1>make sure our temperature, make sure we don't have a fever,

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<v Speaker 1>So it makes sense that it would kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because it's something new and it's with.

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<v Speaker 1>You all the time. Yeah, I mean you can only imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>So right now it's been what a month and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>two months, and we've been dealing with it every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can only imagine that back then people were

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<v Speaker 2>and like it like in the Civil War and afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln, he was dreaming all kinds of weird dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>I soon began to dream. I heard subdued psalms, as

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<v Speaker 4>if a number of people were weeping. I left my

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<v Speaker 4>sicken surprise before me. It was a catafalque, one which

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<v Speaker 4>rested a corpse wrapped in funeral investments. Around it was

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<v Speaker 4>stationed soldiers who are acting as gods. And there was

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<v Speaker 4>a throng of people gazing mournfully upon the corpse, whose

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<v Speaker 4>The president was his answer.

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<v Speaker 2>He was killed by an assassin. He dreamed of his

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<v Speaker 2>own assassination. We'll talk about that when we get into

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<v Speaker 2>dream types and people that have had dreams in those types.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's so it's documented that this is what happens

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<v Speaker 2>in times of stress for people. To our listeners, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>imagining they are experiencing that stuff, at least a few

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<v Speaker 1>And if if it's a good time to just mention it,

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<v Speaker 1>you are having crazy dreams during this corona nonsense, then

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<v Speaker 1>shoot us an email at my story Yeah, my story

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<v Speaker 1>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a Strange Thing dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, we can review them and maybe share

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<v Speaker 1>them if they're good. You better have good dreams. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're you sharing your dream will help somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>who's wondering if they're like need to go see a

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<v Speaker 2>Because of their dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if this whole topic, like I often say,

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<v Speaker 2>if this whole topic kind of creeps you out and

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<v Speaker 2>you're tempted to not listen anymore, just take a deep breath,

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<v Speaker 2>keep listening. And if you need to call your psychologist, Cali,

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<v Speaker 2>your therapist, get her on the phone, have her download

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<v Speaker 2>a stitcher and subscribe to a Strange Thing podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and tell your friends about us, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best way. Tell your friends about us. Get us,

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<v Speaker 2>get us out there, and hopefully, you know, we won't

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<v Speaker 2>drive people too crazy. Speaking of driving people.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy, do you dare you see this? Don't you freaking dare?

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<v Speaker 2>I got a cheeto. I brought it just for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't oh you even hear? It's so Daryl, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>so well with my beer. Sorry, I had to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give you nightmares.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm I'm not worried about coronaviruses chewing it. So

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<v Speaker 1>speaking about nightmares, there are positive ways and dreams that

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<v Speaker 1>stressors are dealt with, and those are usually strange lucid dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there are nightmares, and nightmares are another category where

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<v Speaker 1>people who study this believe that your mind is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you something to be aware of, something to

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<v Speaker 1>look out for, something to be wary. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>having nightmares, you know, you might want to like take

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<v Speaker 2>Of ax, yeah x x, or take an inventory of

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on and kind of analyze yourself and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you could turn that nightmare into a kind of positive thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how I was talking about that snake it was

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<v Speaker 1>seeking into the house and eating you in a previous episode, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a few episodes ago, or maybe the last one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was because during that time period, you

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<v Speaker 1>were leaving for long periods of time, and for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>snake maybe Salt Lake snake, I don't know. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a long long ways away and you were afraid, and

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<v Speaker 1>snakes are symbol of often of what people are afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, I never realized that as

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a nightmare. As I look back as

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<v Speaker 1>the time. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, hey, you know I think these stressors cause well,

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<v Speaker 2>they cause changes in your sleep pattern, right because you're

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<v Speaker 2>stressed about them. You might be sleeping, going to bed

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<v Speaker 2>later or earlier, or you might not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep all the way through, or you're interrupted. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're working in the healthcare industry and you're a nurse

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<v Speaker 2>or a doctor and you're breaking long hours and you're

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with people that are in really dire straits, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with other people that are coming and freaking

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<v Speaker 2>out because there hypochondriacs. You know, it's a it's a cluster.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. There's all kinds of things that stimulate your dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>and right now there's all kinds of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>stimulating you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, stimulation not the good kind.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing a little study that I've done, they're saying, what

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<v Speaker 1>is different about pandemic dreams is that pandemic dreams are

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<v Speaker 1>colored by stress, isolation, and changes in sleep pattern, and

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<v Speaker 1>basically there's a scroll of negative emotions that basically set

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<v Speaker 1>them apart from other kinds of dreams. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that's really true. I mean there

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<v Speaker 2>is no answers. This is an invisible enemy, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think healthcare industry workers have visions that are very

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<v Speaker 2>specific or or dreams that are very specific about what

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<v Speaker 1>Struggling for breath or pneumonia or horrible medical crisis. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of us that don't see those images,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an invisible bug. This is an invisible virus.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't see with your eye. You don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. It could be on nothing or it could

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<v Speaker 1>be on everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true, and so how do you how does

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<v Speaker 2>your mind deal with it? Well, it creates crazy things

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<v Speaker 2>that symbolize that in your dream. So they're usually scary things.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like in one of the articles, people are dreaming

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about like bugs, snakes, zombies. No, that on't

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense to me. Yeah, I love a good zombie dream, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And being chased by an invisible adversary that they can't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Or being locked away or grabbing their family and locking

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, being isolated, being like kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 2>Or right, or seeing your loved ones kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, so creepy is creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll probably both have bad dreams tonight. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been thinking about dreams a lot more too,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's hard. I might have a skewed I might

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<v Speaker 1>be like a non placebo study myself on whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not this coronavirus or if it's just me constantly thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about dreams because we're talking about it now, We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it three nights in depth on the computer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm staying up late by myself and checking the doors

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<v Speaker 1>forty times before I go to bed. Yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say something though, Yeah, say it so in my neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I've left the garage store open a

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<v Speaker 1>few times, and while all these terrible things are happening,

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<v Speaker 1>may not even that terrible for some, probably very terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>But while you're constantly thinking about how you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get food at Walmart, you're you're worried about getting

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<v Speaker 1>these germs. Like we've been talking my neighbors next across

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<v Speaker 1>the street, they posted a sign in their yard says,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need anything or you just want some prayer

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody to talk to, you, give us a call

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<v Speaker 1>and put their number on there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was super cool. And like I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I left my garage door open. But then I walk outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of seeing you know, some old beat up car

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, it felt weird because here I am

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to keep my garage dorus shutting there out here

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<v Speaker 1>promoting their own help. I thought that was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wonder maybe that's maybe you're onto something there.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe part of what causes those dreams. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on what you're focusing on. So there's this

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<v Speaker 2>study here. I pulled it up and it's the Lion

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<v Speaker 2>Neuroscience Research Center and it's in France. But they've been

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<v Speaker 2>So usually you don't remember your dreams well because of

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdness of sleep. Right now thirty five percent uptick

423
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<v Speaker 2>and memorability.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Right, probably because you're waking up after your dreams, I

425
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<v Speaker 1>mean you're sleeping well. Yeah, And they've also documented that

426
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<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent increases in scary or stressful dreams has increased.

427
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:41.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you didn't believe that.

428
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're more negative than usual. But I'm wondering maybe

429
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:50.519
<v Speaker 2>it has to do with how you're seeing the pandemic.

430
00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Another study that I read, and I can't remember which

431
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 2>one it was, and I don't have it pulled up,

432
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>but they were talking about that, like in the earthquake

433
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<v Speaker 2>in California, that people that were near the epicenter had

434
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<v Speaker 2>a much higher increase of memorable dreams, scary dreams, lucid

435
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.079
<v Speaker 2>dreams that happened near the epicenter. And then just like

436
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:16.759
<v Speaker 2>the actual shock wave, as it dispersed out, the volume

437
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of lucid dreams actually decreased proportionately to the epicenter of that.

438
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:23.559
<v Speaker 1>That's super weird.

439
00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>That is weird.

440
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>So what we're finding in like New York or dense

441
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:33.440
<v Speaker 1>cities where there's a high volume and concentration of illness

442
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>with this pandemic, lucid dreaming is off the chart. I bet.

443
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And as you get out into rural areas it tapers

444
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<v Speaker 2>off dramatically.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Well, do you think that could have something to do?

446
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>This is me being kind of a skeptic person in general,

447
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.759
<v Speaker 1>with just the density of people. I think it could

448
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>because the places where these epidemics, is that what it is,

449
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>epidemic or pandemic, pandemic, pandem pandemic.

450
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the difference is. We should look

451
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<v Speaker 2>at that, and.

452
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>They probably should. But these places where the pandemic is

453
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 1>getting worse and worse and worse and worse. It's where

454
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>there's apartment complexes, everybody's breathing the same air, everybody's they're

455
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.119
<v Speaker 1>bumping into each other on the sidewalk. You got homeless

456
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>people grabbing your shoulder for a dollar on the way home.

457
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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be the case where you know, out

458
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<v Speaker 1>in the country.

459
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where there's separation. Yeah, maybe your neighbor will come

460
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.640
<v Speaker 2>over and say, hey, I think you're onto something there too,

461
00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>because you know, think about what you and I see.

462
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>So we hear about all the bad stuff. We see

463
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<v Speaker 2>the negative stuff that goes on in New York and

464
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Florida and some of the other places. Italy, right, And

465
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>there's another study in Italy which is crazy the amount

466
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<v Speaker 2>of terrible nightmare dreams that they're having in Italy right now.

467
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 2>But what do we see we see because of this pandemic.

468
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<v Speaker 2>We see families out in the neighborhood walking their goat,

469
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<v Speaker 2>with their dogs and their go types. They go, well,

470
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>maybe that too, depending where you're at. I see so

471
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 2>many good things that are going on. I see people

472
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.400
<v Speaker 2>rallying together for food banks, and I see churches doing

473
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:16.680
<v Speaker 2>online services for people and distributing masks. I see families

474
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.839
<v Speaker 2>getting out together the family unit, which they I haven't

475
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>done forever.

476
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen more people out as a family walking.

477
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But I live by the kind of by a walkway

478
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>along a canal with ducks and you know, all kinds

479
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of stuff and trees, And every time I drive by there,

480
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I have to stop pretty much for the crosswalk because

481
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>there's mom and dad and two little kids on scooters

482
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>walking down the trail, you know, and they stop the traffic.

483
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And it sucks because I have to stop. But at

484
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it.

485
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Makes you feel good.

486
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>It's cool because during all this nonsense, you got this

487
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>family and it's getting closer and closer together. I'm sure

488
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>at home, the dad is like, stop talking, maybe all

489
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>cooped up in the same house, but maybe.

490
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>That's such a blessing for a lot of families. Now

491
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.519
<v Speaker 2>that's a different scenario. If you're in a dense city

492
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 2>like New York and you're an apartment building that's you know,

493
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>ten stories high, and the apartment complexes are you know,

494
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>one bedroom studios and your sandwich side by side, there's

495
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>no escape. You go out, what and you want to

496
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>go out in the in the falcony and stand there

497
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and look at everybody else that's standing on the balcony.

498
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>You go to the street or the subway, Where do

499
00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>you go?

500
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Even if you want to go to the store and

501
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>grab some idolized toilet paper, you can't get a hold of.

502
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>You got to get to a stairwhell or an elevator,

503
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be stuck with somebody in these

504
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 1>apartment complexes. And I think that's why it explodes Italy,

505
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>New York. It's really dense population areas and.

506
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>They can't get away.

507
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>There's more people, more touching, more contact. We're talking and

508
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 1>to tie that into this dreaming topic, that's where these crazy.

509
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Nightmares and dreams are exploding. It's crazy and you know,

510
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>it tapers off as you get out from the country,

511
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.559
<v Speaker 2>but you know, some of the dreams are productive that

512
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>people are having some of them also, even though they're

513
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 2>in this weird area where a lot of crazy craps

514
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 2>going on. Sometimes the dreams are you know, a lot

515
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 2>of them, a high percentage are like deceased family members

516
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.279
<v Speaker 2>coming to them and giving them hope and perspective.

517
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 1>That's cool, so terrifying.

518
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>As bad as your brain may be throwing nightmare scenarios

519
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>out there as a way to deal with it, it's

520
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>also providing things that offer hope. And you know, it

521
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>would be really interesting to do a study on the

522
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>psychology of people that have good dreams versus bad dreams

523
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 2>in those dense areas, to see what their difference of

524
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 2>persona is, what their background is. Maybe some have deep faith,

525
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>or maybe they have good family units, and maybe they

526
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 2>have a different take on it in their subconscious then

527
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>somebody who is you know, from a dysfunctional family or

528
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>all alone. And I'm sure that all of those scenarios

529
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>play into this pandemic dreaming thing.

530
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And I've noticed too, like I said, a lot

531
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 1>of people have this lack of sleep, and I think

532
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are dealing with depression, not having

533
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>their jobs, Like a lot of people lost jobs over this,

534
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of like small business owners are panicking

535
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>over you know, the uncertain future, and I think that

536
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>causes a lot of depression and obviously anxiety. Yeah, part

537
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 1>of those two illnesses, depression and anxiety is lack of sleep,

538
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a hard time sleeping, sleeping too much, you know, and

539
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 1>then that can cause these crazy dreams as well, I think.

540
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially like you know, everything I've read and I've

541
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I've probably read ten or fifteen articles over this last

542
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>week about dreams and what they are and how your

543
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 2>mind is using that time too, everything from shorten the

544
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>synaptic gap, you know, the length that the brain must

545
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>travel to find information to deal with a complex situation

546
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 2>in your dream state. That actually your brain is shortening

547
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>those things so it's finding shortcuts to the right information

548
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>so that can solve a problem. So it's doing that,

549
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>it's dealing with all these psychological issues and it's trying

550
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>to build bridges and gaps so that you're able to

551
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>deal with stresses.

552
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 1>In your life process things better in life.

553
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>And you usually don't remember it unless you're not sleeping well,

554
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>which is that I don't remember what. I called it

555
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 2>emotional disinhibition. Disinhibition interesting and you know, honestly, people don't

556
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>usually remember their dreams, but because of this heightened isolation

557
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and stress, people are just remembering them more. Do you

558
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>think do you think that it's people are dreaming more

559
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 2>or you think people are remembering them more. I think

560
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it's remembering more. You know, it might be more intense

561
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>because the reality of it is a lot more intense.

562
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 2>The ramifications of it are much more dire. You're going

563
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 2>to deal with it more because it's a bigger problem, right,

564
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>just like if you lock your keys in the car,

565
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that's a big problem. If you've left your keys on

566
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the counter, but you know where it is, it's still

567
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 2>a problem.

568
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But you know, you know it's not in your car.

569
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>A virus. You don't know, you don't know where it's at.

570
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 2>You know what is Just look around when you go

571
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 2>shopping shopping this evening and got some groceries, maybe sixty

572
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>percent were wearing masks overhaf crazy.

573
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen that many people wearing masks, but it

574
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>was the first.

575
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Time I had seen that many. And then you know,

576
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>there's this like fear factor. When you put your masks on,

577
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 2>you lose so much of your ability to read expressions.

578
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 2>You mean, portray expression, no read them. So like you

579
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 2>go out, you can't tell if somebody's smiling at you

580
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 2>or if they're angry.

581
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 1>All you do is you see half you see their eyes.

582
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>The people with masks on are hard.

583
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Or you too. So you could go up and totally

584
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>be kidding somebody and say something, but they can't see

585
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 2>her this part of your face.

586
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Don't put your face.

587
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>So they don't know they you know, they can't read it.

588
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, they can't tell you're smiling or

589
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, blowing a kiss at him. They have no idea,

590
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 2>which is fun. So I wore my mask when to

591
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Fred Myers went to all the eighties and blue kisses

592
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 2>at him. They had no idea. I didn't really do that,

593
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>but that'd be fun. I'm gonna do.

594
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>How do you know they're cute if they got masks on,

595
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll see there you go, they got wispy with wispy eyes.

596
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 1>But then but then they take their mask off and

597
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>they're I guess.

598
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>They're really gritting their teeth. It's such a strange phenomenon.

599
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know really how to deal with it.

600
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Every day I wake up and I sometimes wonder if

601
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm in dream right.

602
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It feels like that sometimes, doesn't it, Because so much

603
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>has changed in such a short period of time, it

604
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>really has. It's been like a couple of weeks ago,

605
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is so stupid. It's just gonna

606
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>blow over. You know, there's gonna be three hundred soccer

607
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 1>moms lined up at Walgreens to get their free coronavirus shot,

608
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 1>and then everybody's going to be like back to normal

609
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 1>and the next thing, you know, I don't know the

610
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 1>whole thing I've got. I've got isico propyl alcohol in

611
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>my hand in my theme. I'm wiping my hands down.

612
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>My hands are cracking, you know, I don't. I don't

613
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>know if it's going to get back to normal. I

614
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe maybe years down the road. But you know,

615
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>how long does it take to form a habit? I

616
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>mean today, I think they say two weeks is how

617
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 1>long it takes.

618
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're going to what eight six eight weeks

619
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>of this kind of thing, and it's starting to feel

620
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more normal When I wake up I've

621
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>dealt with it for six weeks, and so it's art

622
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 2>to not feel as shocking as it did in week

623
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 2>one and week two. And so like today, we had

624
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a guy come and work on our house and put

625
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>some tile on a backsplash that we were supposed to

626
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>have done way before this ever hit and everything got

627
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>slowed down. But today the title guide came and he

628
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 2>came to the door and a nice looking guy alway's friendly,

629
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 2>wasn't wearing a mask or anything, and I kind of

630
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.679
<v Speaker 2>forgot for a moment, and I reached out and go, Hi,

631
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm Mike, and I shook his hand and he shook

632
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 2>my hand, and then like while we were holding hands,

633
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 2>which was kind of awkward for a half a second,

634
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<v Speaker 2>we both.

635
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Realized what we were doing, and we both like jerked

636
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>back hands, like oh crap man.

637
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>And then we like bunked elbos.

638
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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I did that the other day. I gave

639
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<v Speaker 1>away a mattress. You're actually over here helped me with

640
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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, I remember that. And the guy showed up

641
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, hey, I'm Austin. Stuck my hand out

642
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and he reached over and then I like pulled my

643
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<v Speaker 1>hand away oh, and then I was like, I don't

644
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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm supposed to do. This is what they say, But.

645
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean I witnessed that. Yeah, that was austular. That

646
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>was very awkward.

647
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that guy was high. I think so stressful

648
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>times lead to drastic making.

649
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you got to do to keep yourself saying right.

650
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<v Speaker 2>All that to say, it could take a while before

651
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>things come back to what we now consider as normal.

652
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 2>The new word is new normal, and I hate that crap.

653
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I hate these words and the psychoanalyzation that goes along

654
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 2>with them. But I mean maybe that's really what we're experiences.

655
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 2>We're going to shift. It's going to take a while

656
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>before people feel comfortable reaching out and taking your hand.

657
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to just like go around hugging people,

658
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just kidding.

659
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 2>For all the you know, the the what do they

660
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>call him? Not the millennials?

661
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>What was before the millennials?

662
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>What's my generation called?

663
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Old? No?

664
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<v Speaker 2>Not Gen X or before that? Maybe boomer baby boomer,

665
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm right in between something neither. But all

666
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the baby boomers, you know, they go up and hugging

667
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like my dad, who is the what do they call that?

668
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 2>The Great Generation? He hugs people. He goes up and

669
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>he's hanging on him and stuff.

670
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Not me, you know, not me, not me. Yeah, you

671
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>never really hug the people you love, just these strangers.

672
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're afraid that he'll go out when

673
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>he goes out and go up and hug people or

674
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>touch him and stuff, because he's so he's like Joe Biden.

675
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, he cops a field everywhere he can.

676
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so we're afraid to let him out. You know,

677
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>we got to keep him caged up because he's gonna

678
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>go out and get beat up because he's touching people,

679
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>or he's gonna he's gonna get the corona. Fortunately for me,

680
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't typically enjoy people's presence. You know, if I'm

681
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.159
<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant and somebody walks through the door, I

682
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>have this bit of like, get out of here, this

683
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 1>is my restaurant now. Yeah. People, So this whole this

684
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 1>whole thing hasn't really changed a lot for me. I

685
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>still had to go to work. I did get a

686
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.159
<v Speaker 1>little bit sick and I had to go get tested

687
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and stuff or evaluated. But I had to stay home

688
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 1>for a while. I was a little bit weird, but

689
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>for the most part. I don't really like being around people,

690
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>so it hasn't changed a whole lot for me.

691
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Well here's something like that. So here, you are sick,

692
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and I've kind of been sick, and I've had family

693
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>members that are sick, and it's like, no, it's not

694
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the Corona. Some of them got tested. Oh no, no,

695
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 2>not the Corona virus are And then then you find

696
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 2>out that like up to forty percent of all tests

697
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>are like false negatives, like it like in New York

698
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>right now, they I read an article up to one

699
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 2>out of every seven people either have it or have

700
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>had it. So I mean that's over that's over twelve

701
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>percent of the population of New York that's already got

702
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 2>it or had it. And then you think about all

703
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the people here, Like so my sister, she's a nurse,

704
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>she got tested, came back negative. But then I have

705
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 2>a niece that got tested, came back negative, got sick

706
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, had pneumonia, went back tested again, came

707
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>back negative, gave her antibiotics, got her through it, and

708
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 2>then they went back and said, you know what, you

709
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 2>had Corona. It tested negative twice. But there's like this

710
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 2>percentage that came back positive. But so we couldn't really tell.

711
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you the antibodies are there, so yeah, you

712
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>had corona. Meantime, she's galivant around giving it to everybody

713
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>she comes in contact with in the house she stayed at.

714
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.639
<v Speaker 2>So they've had corona.

715
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

716
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't. It wasn't it wasn't a severe symptoms,

717
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 2>so nobody knew.

718
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, that is weird. It's weird because when I

719
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:55.079
<v Speaker 1>got sick, they called my father in law told him

720
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>to come down because he was sick as well. They

721
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>told him that they were going to test him. So

722
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he got there and they're like, you know, have Corona

723
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 1>be out of here.

724
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't do it.

725
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.159
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well you called me, so he had to

726
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.199
<v Speaker 1>go home, and then I went in because you know,

727
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 1>if he's getting tested and I'm sick and we have

728
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>similar symptoms, then maybe I should go get tested too

729
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and just make sure that I'm not gonna, you know,

730
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>go see some old lady and killer by accident. So

731
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I go to get tested. They don't even test me.

732
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 1>They just say, yeah, if your fever goes away for

733
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, go back to work. It's like,

734
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>this is silly. Yeah, well I don't even I don't

735
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>even know, which actually probably kind of bothered me more

736
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>because it made me feel like even the people who

737
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to know what to do and supposed to

738
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 1>do things don't know what to do. So that's the

739
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of information or crap that makes me want to information. Well, Anonymous, Yeah, I.

740
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's information, but it's kind of almost bad information

741
00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 2>disinformation because it doesn't help you. It gives you nothing actionable,

742
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's the kind of stuff that makes you go

743
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 2>home and have bad sleep habits, which is probably gonna

744
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>end up with you having some kind of terrible nightmare

745
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>about some invisible enemy that's chasing you and your family

746
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>into a dark room and trying to stab you to

747
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>death knives.

748
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 1>It was weird when when I went back to work

749
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>after I stayed home for eight days, they said three.

750
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I ended up staying home for eight almost after my

751
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 1>fever went away, So I think I did my due

752
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>diligence in terms of what I was told. I did

753
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 1>that plus more than double. When I got back to work,

754
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 1>people were a little weird about around me, and one

755
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 1>guy came and kind of chewed me out, like, I

756
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 1>hope you get coronavirus. But there's a guy, you know,

757
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>he's got cancer, and then there's this lady, she's got

758
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>lung problems. And then there's this guy. He just had

759
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a heart transplant, and I mean, that's not an easy

760
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 1>thing for your body to recover.

761
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>No, Yeah, that's the scary part of this virus for me.

762
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I kind of felt like I was there

763
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 1>at me when I was at work because I got

764
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>chewed out, I got sent home. And then I feel like,

765
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 1>what if, for some weird reason, even though I was

766
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>okay to go back to work according to.

767
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Medical professionals, you passed on that, And God, what if

768
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I got.

769
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>This guy sick? You know, nobody's been sick yet so well.

770
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's like your mom, you know, her concern it

771
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 2>and being a role follower really has nothing to do

772
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>with her own self preservation. She thinks about her grandkids

773
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>or kids or her friends that are have illnesses or

774
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 2>some kind of underlying condition that's going to get them trouble.

775
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Or like my dad, who who was older, I mean

776
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>asthmatic a little bit. I have mild asthma. Tiffany, our niece,

777
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.119
<v Speaker 1>who has worse asthma. You know, she doesn't want to

778
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 1>get them sick, so she she sleeps terribly. I'm surprised

779
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 1>according to the literature I've been reading that she doesn't

780
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more weird, strange lucid dreams because she

781
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 1>sleeps like crap. Your mom wakes up every morning, oh,

782
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I know, four am and plays on her phone for

783
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>an hour, then goes back to sleep for an hour.

784
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Half of it's her snoring. I think, Yeah, she does

785
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>snore like you. Yeah, it's awesome.

786
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Lot. You guys are like a snore symphony when you

787
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>get together and fall asleep on the couch.

788
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Austin snored, bass.

789
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Snored ye and then our dog snort soprano.

790
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeh. Panny and Chailey joined in right with them.

791
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Geez.

792
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, gosh, you know, I just think this whole pandemic

793
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>dream thing is it was very inter resting, and I

794
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>also think it was a little bit providential because we

795
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>were in this topic of dreams before COVID nineteen was

796
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a condition, and before coronavirus caused the condition. Similar to

797
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 1>how we we we were like, let's do cattle mutilation,

798
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and then it seemed like even now I hear everyone's

799
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 1>in a long story. And maybe it's because I'm more aware,

800
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like as soon as we started talking

801
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's still going on.

802
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's weird, so it disappears until we decided

803
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 2>to bring it up. So you know, we got to

804
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 2>be careful to topics we choose because as soon as

805
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>we choose me, it's like big things happen.

806
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about for our next episode, Father and Son

807
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Podcast duos when lotteries.

808
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say the exact same thing, or

809
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 2>when sponsorship for dual Sport Motorcycles across the.

810
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 1>World and Father and Son Podcast Duo sponsored by BMW

811
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and KTM and Honda and multimainion dollar lottery winner at

812
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the same time, whilst also being the first person to

813
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>get jacked in Columbia And what oh, that wouldn't be first.

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00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we have sake got hijacked and held for ransom.

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00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean like jacked overnight. Oh you mean like muscular Yeah,

816
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>like a Spider Man situation where I can wake up.

817
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, whoa, why did I rip the door knob

818
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>off the door and I'm just freaking ripped all of

819
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<v Speaker 1>a sudden.

820
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's really sad, So like My age right

821
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 2>now is that when they say that, like guys start

822
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.079
<v Speaker 2>losing muscle mass and stuff like that, and it's like

823
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of totally makes me not want to even work out.

824
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like, just let it go.

825
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 1>There's in the last forty years of your life.

826
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I know it's like genetically, I mean, I'm a

827
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>fine specimen man. Why what if it's all downhill from here?

828
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 2>WI fight it?

829
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Just enjoy the ride.

830
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Role I do notice, like, so your mom and I

831
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:51.800
<v Speaker 2>are going to go out and try to camp a

832
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 2>little bit this weekend self isolate away from our house

833
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and just to get out because we've been in here

834
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 2>forever and driving us crazy. And so I was loading

835
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:02.280
<v Speaker 2>up the trailer and you know, I have a little

836
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 2>generator and I have some other things and I was

837
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 2>lifting them up. It's like they were heavier than I

838
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:07.639
<v Speaker 2>remember them.

839
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Pain. It's like that's funny, and all my muscles are

840
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.159
<v Speaker 1>like like aching.

841
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what in the heck is going on?

842
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed I have like dad's strength now that oh, becauseeah,

843
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>like I can get things will happen. I'll you know,

844
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.159
<v Speaker 1>at work, I'll pick something up and it's no longer

845
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 1>like I wonder if I can lift that, it's like

846
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick that up, put it on the table,

847
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like wow. And then afterwards I'm like, oh, oh,

848
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 1>my shoulder, my back, Yeah, I've got I've got pain.

849
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>In this stupid finger right here. And it's not my

850
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 2>flip off bird.

851
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Finger or is it. No, it's one over from that

852
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>on my left hand, your finger. But when I noticed

853
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I reach over to No, it is.

854
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 2>My bird finger on my left hand. Maybe that's something.

855
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I reach over and try to pick something

856
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 2>up with it and grab with that finger. Oh my gosh,

857
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it hurts. And then I hurt my heel. I got

858
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 2>plantar faciitis from like standing too long at a convention.

859
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 1>You know.

860
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I worked it for like four days and stood for

861
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 2>four days straight. And now my heel stillores, and my

862
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>elbow on my right side for some reason, I slept

863
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 2>on it wrong.

864
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like everything I'm doing is like heart's all, It's

865
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>like what the heck.

866
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>And I'm afraid to take ibuprofen because they say that

867
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>can trigger if you have COVID, it can make it worse.

868
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not taking ibuprofen for I'm just wondering all

869
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>of these things that I'm experiencing right now, fingers, aches

870
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff. So I haven't been having pandemic dreams,

871
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 2>but because of the impact on my sleep, I am

872
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>wondering if, very soon, if I'm going to experience pandemic

873
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>dreaming because of all the crazy stupid aches I have

874
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>because of age, or possibly they say you get aggs

875
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 2>when you get this coronavirus. Maybe I've had the coronavirus

876
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 2>for the last couple of weeks because my I've been

877
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>aching everywhere.

878
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you could also get aches and more pains

879
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>from lack of sleep because your body's not compensating with

880
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the injury.

881
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 6>Well so yeah, Or you could have diabetes, or you

882
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 6>can have AIDS. I mean, you just pick your topic.

883
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 6>You can have all kinds of symptoms. Drive you crazy,

884
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't let you sleep. I'm gonna have crazy dreams.

885
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I've had this headache right here. It feels like somebody's

886
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>gotten like a sword goes in right here, comes out

887
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>right here.

888
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 2>So does it make you have weird dreams?

889
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I think I can. I definitely have had weirder dreams,

890
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.519
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to keep like a dream journal, but

891
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been, but I have definitely had way more dreams,

892
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and they've all been more up gloomy or apocalyptic maybe.

893
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 1>So on top of all these other things, I keep

894
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>hearing stories about people getting robbed, stuff stolen out of

895
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>their house, their doorstep, you know, like weird, terrible things.

896
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>People are just being bad to each other now and

897
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I kind of been fearing people more too. I actually

898
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>bought a gun yesterday.

899
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, you almost don't know what they you know,

900
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 2>you can't. It's like, what are they going to do?

901
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Because they're desperate, because you feel desperate and you know

902
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 2>they are too, but you feel like you have like

903
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>a solid background, a bedrock that you stand on, but

904
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what kind of bedrock they standing on.

905
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>They could be like weird people already go off the

906
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 2>handle and like steal you for a can of beans.

907
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna steal me and then trade me for a

908
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>canna beans.

909
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I meant to say, kill you for a canna beans? Okay,

910
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 2>yeah I wouldn't.

911
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll trade you this two hundred and forty five pounds

912
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 1>seventy twenty seven year old for that Cannabians or they're

913
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna steal you put you in a bunker so that

914
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 1>you can procreate and replenish the earth after we come

915
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 1>out of the doomsday cellar. Not a bad gig. If

916
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen the chicks, they got their corona masks on,

917
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Yeah, that's hilarious. Anyway. What are you

918
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>drinking tonight.

919
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Father, Irish staff? How about you?

920
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:10.239
<v Speaker 1>The old standby?

921
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm drinking little thing, I pay.

922
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Hazy little thing. Kind of a word play deal going on.

923
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I bought a couple bottles of Dragon's milk to take

924
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>with me camping.

925
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Typical. Oh hey, one thing, one thing I wanted to

926
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 1>say for me, too far down this channel. So there

927
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.519
<v Speaker 1>was some research done by a Finnish group in Finland.

928
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what finished people are. Okay, they're not just done.

929
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're not like finished carpenters. They are Finnish people

930
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 2>in Finlanders and they did a big study and what

931
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.119
<v Speaker 2>they discovered is kind of the thing that we talked about,

932
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>which is that peace of mind lends to a positive

933
00:49:56.360 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>dream effect. Oh yeah, whereas in contrast anxiety, crazy thing

934
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>stressors and anxiety they relate to a negative dream effect.

935
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And the data shows that dreams that are frightening or

936
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>otherwise upsetting are usually experienced by those that are having

937
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 2>a negative dream effect caused by anxiety.

938
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense.

939
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what we just said that this is

940
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 2>a study, So that means we're really smart.

941
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's kind of funny. I'm reading a well,

942
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to a book series that you recommended to me,

943
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the Harry Bosh Yeah, hroneus.

944
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

945
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 1>And who's the author, Michael Connolly Connolly yep. And he

946
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>has he's going through a really hard time in this

947
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in this particular book, it's The Last Coyote or something

948
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 1>like that. And in this this book, he's he's kind

949
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of dealing. He has to see a counsel or he's

950
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 1>he's a detective and he's on leave because he got

951
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in a fight. You know, that's kind of weird stuff.

952
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And he's going through a hard time. He's afraid he's

953
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 1>going to lose his job. His house just got hit

954
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>by an earthquake and he's rebuilding it, but he's not

955
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be leaving living there because it's condemned. So

956
00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 1>he's got all these stressors in his life. And on

957
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>his way home one night, he's he sees a coyote

958
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>pacing its way across the street in a foggy night,

959
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of makes a weird, ominous, you know,

960
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 1>creepy scene for him. And he goes home and has

961
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a dream that night about that coyote and it's funny

962
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, kind of metaphoric for him in

963
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>his life. Yeah, And he's talking about how this guy's

964
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>going through a hard time and he has a dream

965
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 1>that's like kind of intertwining itself with his things that

966
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 1>he's the experience, and he kind of I think he

967
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of considers himself that last coyote, the last the

968
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 1>last old school detective guy.

969
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 2>There is a professor of psychology at I think at

970
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Harvard University name is Barrett Something but anyway something Barrick, Yes,

971
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 2>something Barrett. They started doing surveys of people and their dreams,

972
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>specifically pandemic dreams Corona pandemic dreams, and what they discovered

973
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 2>is there's like this divide, there's one set and these

974
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.639
<v Speaker 2>are people that are health professionals that work in hospitals,

975
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and their dreams are very specific, kind of like your coyote.

976
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 2>These dreams are about what they see, which are people

977
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>dying on respirators, people struggling for breath, people not making it,

978
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.280
<v Speaker 2>and their struggle to bring them back to life or

979
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to save them. That's one category. Then you have the

980
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 2>general population who is not seeing that medical stuff, but

981
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.599
<v Speaker 2>they're hearing all the terrifying things on the news, and

982
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>those are manifesting and different kinds of things like bugs

983
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 2>and zombies and natural disasters and shadowy figures. And it

984
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>makes you wonder about the existence of shadow Man, which

985
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 2>we talked about in our spooky Things and strange locations.

986
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I have a thought maybe those are dreams inspired because

987
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of their fears of anxiety and their life. But so anyway,

988
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you go, but I want to just finish

989
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 2>this off. Other things are natural disasters, monsters, or mass shootings.

990
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>So people because of this coronavirus pandemic are having an

991
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.079
<v Speaker 2>uptick of dreams that feature these kind of crazy, out

992
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 2>of control things where they place a metaphor a visual

993
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 2>metaphor of what maybe this virus is, whether it's a

994
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 2>mass shooter, bud bugs, shadowy people, whatever it is. Yeah,

995
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 2>those become the metaphor of what the pandemic is for

996
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 2>them in their life. It's pretty creepy.

997
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It is just creepy. You know a lot of that stuff.

998
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the bugs that stuff, but mass shootings things

999
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't think I've ever heard, well, maybe

1000
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I have, but people are now like just news obsessed,

1001
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's like people are blaming Donald Trump for coronavirus,

1002
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 1>blaming the Liberals, blaming the Democrats, blaming Republicans, blaming the President,

1003
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 1>blaming Nancy Pelosi. It's like, what so that intertwines mass shootings, politics,

1004
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just everything's kind of like conspiracy related. And half the

1005
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>people out there, maybe not half a lot of people

1006
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>out there, are like, well, this isn't a real deal.

1007
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 1>The government's trying to manipulate me. The government's trying to

1008
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.159
<v Speaker 1>push me into a corner and take away my rights,

1009
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 1>which adds a whole nother element of suppression. So even

1010
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>if they're not having dreams about the suppression caused by

1011
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>this creepy crawley robot that reproduces in your body and

1012
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 1>causes you to get pneumonia, maybe they're thinking about the

1013
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.519
<v Speaker 1>government that's trying to push them down and trying to

1014
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:18.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to keep them in one little corner and not

1015
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.559
<v Speaker 1>let them be a free American.

1016
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, it's weird. It's convoluted, isn't it. It's

1017
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.239
<v Speaker 2>like you know that you have the virus bug in

1018
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>your body. You have the conspiracy bugs of what you think,

1019
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe government or whatever. Or Bill Gates, he's a popular

1020
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.920
<v Speaker 2>one right now, and he's already he's got the copyright

1021
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>or the patent.

1022
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>For the virus, and he's already got the you know,

1023
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he's using it to slip in track our information and

1024
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 1>little chips that are going to bed your hand so

1025
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that he can value from Microsoft to give you a virus. Yeah.

1026
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, and it should be Apple, right because they're the

1027
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>forbidden fruit. Just look at their logo. And why Bill Gates?

1028
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.800
<v Speaker 2>You know it was Steve Jobs. Everybody knows that.

1029
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>But he's dead. Well, as far as you know, you're

1030
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 1>trying to blame a dead guy.

1031
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's not.

1032
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he reproduced or women ornated as a Him and

1033
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Elvis Presley are living in an underground home.

1034
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 2>In Las Vegas, Nevada. Wow, I'm pretty sure that's happening.

1035
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1036
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a weird time to be live, and there's a

1037
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of crazy things going on, and we're seeing this

1038
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>uptick in dreams, but those same stressors.

1039
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>That we're experiencing now and the volume of lucid dreaming.

1040
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I wonder sometimes, you know, in dreams in general before

1041
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 2>this time, are they the same things that cause lucid

1042
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:44.159
<v Speaker 2>dreams in the eight categories we talked about in Part

1043
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 2>two of Strange Dreams, Are they any different? There might

1044
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.440
<v Speaker 2>be more of them now, but are they the same causes?

1045
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Can you categorize them in the same ways? I kind

1046
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of think you can.

1047
00:56:56.800 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 1>You probably can.

1048
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the person that's going to find the cure to

1049
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, maybe he'll discover that in the dream, like

1050
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Albert Einstein did for the theory of relativity, which is

1051
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 2>another thing we'll talk about in our next podcast, but

1052
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 2>hopefully we can do that one together. There is something

1053
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>about being able to see you across the room and

1054
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 2>talk with you when you're in the room that's different

1055
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 2>than what we're doing right now.

1056
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it keeps us on track. We don't

1057
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 1>rabbit traills much well.

1058
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, because we're there for a specific purpose here,

1059
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 2>we're in our rooms that we're in during the day,

1060
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:33.440
<v Speaker 2>and now it's suddenly an offsite studio.

1061
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've got all these distractions, Like my phone.

1062
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I keep it right here just in case my you know,

1063
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 1>showing it something upstairs. I can hear if the kids

1064
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 1>get up. I can hear the dogs when they bark,

1065
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, noises behind me in the window. That freaks

1066
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>me out.

1067
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 2>So, you know, and not in confidence because we're doing

1068
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.519
<v Speaker 2>this publicly, But isn't it weird to kind of watch

1069
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I keep looking at myself while I'm talking.

1070
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yea, because I'm sure my eyes are just bouncing back

1071
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and forth because I'm not used to seeing myself and

1072
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I talk, and it makes me feel a little bit

1073
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.320
<v Speaker 1>self conscious. Oh yeah, big time.

1074
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 2>It was like I gotta pimple my forehead or you

1075
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.199
<v Speaker 2>know how I can't see my teeth.

1076
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Or my beers.

1077
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>You're scruffy, you know, whatever it is, it's bad.

1078
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking a lot about yourself.

1079
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a distraction.

1080
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have a bad dream now.

1081
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:28.639
<v Speaker 2>I do think I'm thankful for this technology that we

1082
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>can do this, because otherwise, who knows how long it'll

1083
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 2>be before we can do an episode. And I have

1084
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>to apologize to our listeners that it's taken us this long.

1085
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's been a weird time. I feel like they're understanding. Yeah,

1086
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>they better be.

1087
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1088
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 1>One thing you know we should talk about on you

1089
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, because you know, we talked about it

1090
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:49.639
<v Speaker 1>in one of our or maybe both of our last

1091
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 1>attempts of doing this, and we're gonna use this this

1092
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 1>one no.

1093
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Matter what, because three strikes were out right, But what

1094
00:58:57.960 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>did we do recently? We ended up picking up up another.

1095
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 1>What before you get there? Okay, what I was gonna say,

1096
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>cause you're talking about these dreams? Yeah and and uh

1097
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you like went into shadow people.

1098
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1099
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.199
<v Speaker 1>It made me think about something because there's this like

1100
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of myth of sand Man.

1101
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's so.

1102
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Weird you say that because I've got I went online,

1103
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I entered The Sandman by Metallica. Nice.

1104
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I got that sound clip because I wanted.

1105
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:56.000
<v Speaker 5>To use that in this way right now.

1106
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Our last name is Oric, and the drummer for Metaca's

1107
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>stands but he only has one one. No, that's Death Leppard.

1108
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Come on, well his name's Ulric too. No, No it's not,

1109
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. No, I don't know the drummer for Maybe

1110
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:13.239
<v Speaker 1>it is, but I feel like I would know that.

1111
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like lyrics are cool drummers, whether they have

1112
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 1>one like this.

1113
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, his tongues out always out. You gotta be

1114
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 2>carefully gonna bite it off. But anyway, sorry I interrupted you.

1115
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I was wondering if maybe that myth of sandband,

1116
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this guy that appears to you and leaves sand in

1117
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.639
<v Speaker 1>your eyes and causes you to dream. I don't even

1118
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 1>know if that's the exact that was.

1119
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember my grandma telling me that story. You go

1120
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>to sleep, you know, you get sleepers in your eyes.

1121
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 2>That's because the Sandman comes and puts them in here.

1122
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like dropping dream dreams in your eye, which is

1123
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.000
<v Speaker 1>terrifying if you think about you tell that to little kids,

1124
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with people? But maybe that comes from like

1125
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 1>hat Man, Like maybe people are waking up seeing these

1126
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:10.199
<v Speaker 1>shadow people and they're like making this leap into this.

1127
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 1>This guy was in my room and he was filling

1128
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:13.599
<v Speaker 1>my head with these dreams.

1129
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1130
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't move and okay, wait, so you're saying that

1131
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Sandman and hat Man are the same man. Maybe mister dreams,

1132
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:34.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe mister Dreammaster wears different hats and one of them

1133
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 1>is made of sand and one's a foedora.

1134
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Yep, strangely like Clint Eastwood in The Good, the Bad,

1135
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and the Ugly, like a.

1136
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:56.360
<v Speaker 7>What are they called mestizo nostisio no uh uh l

1137
01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:02.039
<v Speaker 7>two Picabra repisado and Ole.

1138
01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Dricaz, Gonzalifi, Jose Cuervo.

1139
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gaucho gaucho.

1140
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Strangely like a gaucho.

1141
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1142
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, before we close out, we should talk a

1143
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit about our plans for future episodes. We're going

1144
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to do at least one more episode on dreams, where

1145
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 2>we're going to march through all eight dream categories that

1146
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 2>we talked about in part two, and we're gonna like

1147
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>try to tie those in with like famous dreams that

1148
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.440
<v Speaker 2>people have had, because there are quite a few. It's

1149
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:40.840
<v Speaker 2>very very interesting.

1150
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And then we're gonna go on to some other stuff

1151
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what all that stuff is, but

1152
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we do have a big one coming here in a

1153
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 1>couple months. We'll be at squatch Con in Boise, Idaho, Yes,

1154
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>on June thirteenth, So if we have any listeners in

1155
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Boise or somewhere close by that you want to come

1156
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and check out Squatch on in Boise.

1157
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.360
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a fun thing.

1158
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do a series on all kinds of things

1159
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:14.320
<v Speaker 1>big and hairy. Yeah you know what I'm and yeah,

1160
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 1>so so that's cool.

1161
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 2>That's coming up. And we also to go along with that,

1162
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 2>we bought tell me a motorcycle.

1163
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:27.320
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, we need dual sport motorcycles to go out

1164
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>in the wilders and investigate strange things.

1165
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:33.199
<v Speaker 2>So we got a second one. We had one, now

1166
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:35.719
<v Speaker 2>we got two, and we're gonna make it a point

1167
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.800
<v Speaker 2>at least once or twice or three or five or

1168
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:41.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty times this summer to go out and ride these

1169
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 2>motorcycles and investigate strange things all over the state of Idaho.

1170
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Maybe in the Nevada, Nevada, Montana. Yo.

1171
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's all Uah, Washington, Washington. A lot of strange

1172
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 2>things in Utah, but we don't want to go there yet.

1173
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh and if you're in Utah, we love Utah, but

1174
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 1>love Utah.

1175
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 2>We live there. We live there for a long time.

1176
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why we can say little. You know, it's like,

1177
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 1>why is it windy in southern Idaho? I don't know,

1178
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because Utah sucks and Montana blows blush.

1179
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had to do a regional joke there.

1180
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good.

1181
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Awstome, why don't you take us towards

1182
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the finish line and wrap up. We'll let everybody go.

1183
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 2>And we are very appreciative.

1184
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:34.559
<v Speaker 1>That people kind of hang with us during this new

1185
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 1>technology time. We're doing this remotely and practicing safe self distancing.

1186
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's good to see your face, even though it's

1187
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.159
<v Speaker 1>small and on a screen and fuzzy. Hearless. Well, I

1188
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.199
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm my beard is killing back. Nice.

1189
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I like your beard better. Yeah, you don't look like

1190
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:57.639
<v Speaker 2>you're twelve, even though right now you're kind of like

1191
01:04:57.679 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe fourteen.

1192
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, you're getting there.

1193
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.880
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, but anyway, and if you're playing a drinking game,

1194
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 2>we just gave you four drinks.

1195
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't drive home.

1196
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>No, thank you again for listening in. Share your stories,

1197
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>your dreams, especially right now.

1198
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 1>If you're having dreams, you can write them down and

1199
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 1>send them to my story at a strange thing dot com.

1200
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Or if you're a creative type, read into your microphone

1201
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and record it.

1202
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 2>You can send us a short recording.

1203
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.000
<v Speaker 1>If you've got a cool voice, like a like an accent.

1204
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do it, do it? Like those guys. Your favorite accent.

1205
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:40.599
<v Speaker 8>Not what you talk all the time, and you're saying

1206
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 8>stuff like I was need eating whileshes and angry ies.

1207
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.559
<v Speaker 8>Woke up in the morning, try to sit myself down

1208
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.800
<v Speaker 8>and talk. It couldn't sit down for us. I have

1209
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.000
<v Speaker 8>had to go downstairs cood find enough. Just a little

1210
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:55.760
<v Speaker 8>bit of a dream about nothing, and my neighbor's coming

1211
01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 8>over to my house.

1212
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 1>And next thing you know, I'm sitting on Or you.

1213
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Could talk like, yeah, dude, come on over.

1214
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 1>You know you gotta act like overly prissy, like yes.

1215
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:15.880
<v Speaker 1>So I fell asleep one night really woke up like gip,

1216
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I had one of my shardonnaye dreams.

1217
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Or we could do a southern accent like y'all come

1218
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:27.239
<v Speaker 2>on over, rock.

1219
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Why are you having everybody over your house for having dream?

1220
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, y'all y'all. Or you could be like from

1221
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the Bronx or New York.

1222
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:41.039
<v Speaker 1>You talk kind of good will, can be like an

1223
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Idaho fella.

1224
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 2>You come over here, I'll cut off your head. I

1225
01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that is. I I don't know. I'm

1226
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:50.840
<v Speaker 2>not a very good ventriloquist.

1227
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 1>All right, ventrillick wist, what do you call impressionist.

1228
01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I suck at those things.

1229
01:06:58.159 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can talk about Eddie Murphy.

1230
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go over the vets. I will go up in

1231
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the middle lot and they say, you know, I have

1232
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 2>to sleep there. We go.

1233
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Not even make a whole lot of sense.

1234
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Or what's the girl from Ridiculousness.

1235
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Chanelle West Coast? I don't even know how she laughs.

1236
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:23.239
<v Speaker 1>It's annoying. Anyway, we're digressing again, like us on whatever

1237
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:24.800
<v Speaker 1>podcasts app you listen.

1238
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 2>To tell your friends about us?

1239
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, tell your friends. Go to Facebook, Twitter, Insta, Google,

1240
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 1>tweet face. All of those guys keep checking out our

1241
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:36.360
<v Speaker 1>online store to buy stuff that maybe isn't even able

1242
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to buy yet. But anyway you can check it out.

1243
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll figure that out. So join us next time for

1244
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:48.519
<v Speaker 1>some hopefully some good dream stories. Yeah, some cold drinks

1245
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and some strange conversations.

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01:07:51.199 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely have good dreams. Man, sleep well, daters, daters U