Speaker 1: Welcome aboard Bus one. We're taking a shortcut through New
Speaker 1: York City and we've got some time to kill. Let's
Speaker 1: play some trivia gamers. Introduce yourselves. Hello, what's up everyone?
Speaker 1: It's a.
Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going. I'm Steven.
Speaker 3: Howdy?
Speaker 1: Sorry they made you do that. Well, I've got another
Speaker 1: musical artist shortcut for you today. Our topic is a
Speaker 1: Bobby Darren. I love Bobby Darren. We were talking about
Speaker 1: Bobby Darren in the last musical shortcut and so it
Speaker 1: inspired me to make a Bobby Darren shortcut.
Speaker 2: Can I say how glad I am that it's as
Speaker 2: three can test it's here today? And the comments I've
Speaker 2: seen this, they've been calling us the Dark Triad.
Speaker 1: Really, Sharon, can you confirm that, Sharon.
Speaker 2: I've been reading this.
Speaker 4: Sharon's actually been calling us the Dark try it.
Speaker 2: They've been calling us the Trees in this trio.
Speaker 4: Is this the first appearance of the Dark Triad?
Speaker 2: Well, we were on the Riddles episode together, but you
Speaker 2: were the well no, it wasn't you as the host.
Speaker 4: It was the Quiddler.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Whizzler. I hate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all Miamis hate the Quizzler.
Speaker 4: But he reminded me if you aiden, thanks.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go over the rules. So there are two rounds,
Speaker 1: each with four questions, not as long as a typical episode.
Speaker 1: Questions in round one are worth one point. Questions in
Speaker 1: round two are with two points. Each question will be
Speaker 1: multiple choice, and I'll give everyone the opportunity to answer
Speaker 1: before revealing the correct answer. So in theory, all three
Speaker 1: of you can get a question right, or all three
Speaker 1: of you can get a question wrong.
Speaker 4: Super is going to do a full sweep.
Speaker 1: I'm calling it streame.
Speaker 3: Amounts of Bobby Darren.
Speaker 1: I've heard you've just been put on though, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a friend recently showed me Bobby Darren. I'm
Speaker 3: super excited to delve much deeper into.
Speaker 5: The world of Bobby Darren recently. I can count on
Speaker 5: my fingers how many minutes ago.
Speaker 1: The only thing I beg is try not to base
Speaker 1: your answer off to someone else's. Try to come up
Speaker 1: with the answer in your mind and then and then
Speaker 1: say it please. I'm begging. I'm begging. However, if you
Speaker 1: know the answer to a question right away, you can
Speaker 1: yell snipe. If you get it dead on, you get
Speaker 1: the points and everyone else loses the opportunity to answer,
Speaker 1: and if you get wrong, you can't answer the question again.
Speaker 1: There's no challenge question. There's never challenge question in these shortcuts.
Speaker 1: Most points wins as always were not as always as
Speaker 1: most of the time. And of course no googling. That
Speaker 1: sounds sound good. Everyone sounds good.
Speaker 4: Snipe only runs Stephen.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. I think some of these questions, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well let's start round one. Four questions each
Speaker 1: worth one point. All right. Question one. Walden Robert Casado
Speaker 1: was born in East Harlem, New York City, in nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty six. He was the second born child of Vivian
Speaker 1: Polly Fernwalden. At least, that's what Bobin thought for most
Speaker 1: of his life until he turned thirty two, when Polly
Speaker 1: told him a life shattering truth about his true origin.
Speaker 1: What was that truth? Snipe, Oh, snipe.
Speaker 4: I did know this about Bobby Darrek.
Speaker 6: The woman he thought of as his mom is actually
Speaker 6: his grandmother, and then like his sister, his actual mom.
Speaker 4: It was one of those things.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's like one of those weird things like you
Speaker 6: see those on like TV or something like that, and
Speaker 6: that's an actual Bobby.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So whom Darren thought was his older sister,
Speaker 1: Nina was actually his mother. Anita had Bobby when she
Speaker 1: was just eighteen years old old. She and Polly took
Speaker 1: the secret of Bobby's father's identity to the grave. Actually,
Speaker 1: so Bobby Darren never learned the identity of his father,
Speaker 1: whoa until or even up to his death, but years
Speaker 1: later he was identified as a gangster.
Speaker 2: That's probably why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't know that A little tit bit.
Speaker 1: Nice job, Aiden, You get the point, man, what a snipe?
Speaker 1: That's Could you imagine Could you imagine, man, your your
Speaker 1: your mom sits you down and says, hey, actually i'm
Speaker 1: your grandma and your sister is your mother. That would
Speaker 1: be crazy.
Speaker 3: That would agree, like I have a sister.
Speaker 6: But also like at the point where how much age
Speaker 6: difference is there between eighteen years or did you say that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was eighteen years when she had him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so if you have a sister that's like eighteen
Speaker 6: years older than you, that's true.
Speaker 1: How probably moved away?
Speaker 2: Like something here is fishy?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the one thing I couldn't find was
Speaker 1: how involved Nina was in the raising of Bobby in
Speaker 1: that did she stay at home or did she like
Speaker 1: do other things while her mother I don't know that
Speaker 1: for sure, but.
Speaker 2: Interesting, probably like one of those like classic teenage pregnancy
Speaker 2: things where it's like the grandmother is like really the parent?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: Classic?
Speaker 4: Would you say his name was?
Speaker 1: His full name is Walden Robert Cassato. Before we move
Speaker 1: on to the next question, let me give you the
Speaker 1: wrong choices that I was about to give you because
Speaker 1: some of them were a little funny. Hey, Bobby had
Speaker 1: been secretly adopted by Polly because he was the result
Speaker 1: of a priest in a nun's illicit affair. B Polly
Speaker 1: was actually Bobby's aunt, and his mother had been killed
Speaker 1: by his father, who was a gangster. And then the
Speaker 1: other wrong answer was Polly found Bobby as a baby
Speaker 1: left on her doorstep, and she decided to take Bobby
Speaker 1: in as her own.
Speaker 4: Interesting. Those are all very good.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to question two. Now. I want
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the elephant in the room.
Speaker 1: So we're going to go way, We're going to go
Speaker 1: way Forwarday, So before we go over his life and career,
Speaker 1: let's take a step back and let's look at it
Speaker 1: as a whole. So we of course know that Bobby
Speaker 1: Darren's life was not long, as he would die at
Speaker 1: the age of thirty seven. Unfortunately, what you might not
Speaker 1: know is he was actually aware of that possibility. Darren
Speaker 1: was born rather frail and with serious health effects, mainly
Speaker 1: rheumatic fever, so he grew up knowing actually that he
Speaker 1: might not live long. He heard from his doctor. I
Speaker 1: think he overheard that he was to die, most likely
Speaker 1: at the age of sixteen. Wow, So he knew as
Speaker 1: a small child that he wasn't going to live very long.
Speaker 1: But obviously he lived older than sixteen, and so many people,
Speaker 1: including myself, kind of subscribed to the theory that the
Speaker 1: reason why throughout the course of his career he did
Speaker 1: a wide variety of different genres and styles of music
Speaker 1: is because he kind of knew that his life wasn't
Speaker 1: going to be super long, and so he wanted to
Speaker 1: try and do a bunch of different things and have
Speaker 1: mastery over a bunch of different kinds of music.
Speaker 3: HM.
Speaker 1: Anyways, along those lines, here's the question too of the
Speaker 1: following musical styles, which is one that Bobby did not
Speaker 1: make an album of interesting So he did a bunch
Speaker 1: of different genres. Which of the following did he not
Speaker 1: make an album of A an operatic album, be a
Speaker 1: folk album, see a jazz or big band album, D
Speaker 1: A gospel album, or E a country album.
Speaker 6: Now that you say that Bobby Darren's voice for opera,
Speaker 6: if that exists, I would love to hear that.
Speaker 4: Is that. I feel like it would work very well.
Speaker 1: Opera, folk, jazz, slash, big band, gospel, and country.
Speaker 4: He never did.
Speaker 1: He never did. Jazz never happened.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say folk music.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of older artists did like
Speaker 2: gospel stuff. But you know, I think maybe the gospel one,
Speaker 2: you know, that would be easy to throw in if
Speaker 2: you didn't do that. Okay, So I'm gonna say maybe
Speaker 2: hiding in plain sight?
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Gospel? To me felt like, you know, there's no way.
Speaker 5: But then maybe that's the reason why, Like that's a
Speaker 5: little like misdirect over there.
Speaker 3: So just a game series wise, I was thinking.
Speaker 5: Either opera or folk, and I'm a big fan of that.
Speaker 5: I don't want to choose the same one as you,
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: Opera and is correct, he should do he should get
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, they could do opera.
Speaker 1: No he so he did gospel pretty soon after he
Speaker 1: So the last thing that he did actually was gospel
Speaker 1: was after I think the order effectively was rock and roll, jazz,
Speaker 1: country folk, and then.
Speaker 4: Gospel, rock and roll like Aerosmith.
Speaker 1: No, not like Aerosmith. Don't get me started. Don't get
Speaker 1: me start. Oh, I'm getting rage bated before I get
Speaker 1: rage bated. Let's move on to question three. Early on,
Speaker 1: Bobby showed a talent for music. By the time he
Speaker 1: was a teenager, he could play several instruments. He graduated
Speaker 1: from the prestigious Bronx High School of Science and then
Speaker 1: enrolled at Hunter College and soon gravitated to the drama department.
Speaker 1: After only two semesters, he dropped out to pursue a
Speaker 1: career in Broadway and recording music. He started out writing
Speaker 1: uncredited jingles and songs actually, then negotiated a short contract
Speaker 1: with Decca Records. When he started working with Decca, he
Speaker 1: took on the name Bobby Darren. But what inspired the
Speaker 1: name Darren? So Bobby comes from his middle name, Robert.
Speaker 1: But where did Darren come from?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Where did he get his Where did he get his
Speaker 1: stage name? That's my question for where did Darren come from?
Speaker 1: Is it a Bobby borrowed the surname of his high
Speaker 1: school music teacher, who encouraged his love for music. B
Speaker 1: a local DJ, recommended the name because he thought his
Speaker 1: real name was too ethnic sounding. See he was inspired
Speaker 1: by a Chinese restaurant sign that said Mandarin, but the
Speaker 1: man was out or d. It was a variation of
Speaker 1: daring to make his sound his name sound more exciting.
Speaker 4: He's Bobby exciting.
Speaker 3: That was my guess.
Speaker 5: Actually, if I were to say that, I would have guessed
Speaker 5: something closer to d something that Bobby Daring.
Speaker 4: The restaurant sign is so funny. But I'm going to
Speaker 4: say it's the ethnic sounding radio.
Speaker 1: DJ, right, the racist DJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know that. For example, Leonardo DiCaprio, like
Speaker 2: before his career started, like his Hollywood like guy who
Speaker 2: was like trying to get him apart, was like, you
Speaker 2: need to have a stage name that sounds more English
Speaker 2: because Leonardo DiCaprio is like too ethnic. Frank, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of like Allian people early on, and like
Speaker 2: the thing, we're like, you have to change your name.
Speaker 1: Right, we're talking about Italian people in New York City
Speaker 1: right now, just a just a nick.
Speaker 2: I mean, if no one's choosing the Mandarin one, I
Speaker 2: got to choose one of you is correct, and it
Speaker 2: is Stephen.
Speaker 1: It was so there was a there was a Chinese
Speaker 1: restaurant sign like that he always passed by and the
Speaker 1: man was out, so just said Darren and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would be a good last name.
Speaker 6: Did you know that? That's actually how Stephen got his name.
Speaker 6: His name is actually just Steve. And then he walked
Speaker 6: by a Chinese restaurant and said Mandarin.
Speaker 4: But only the end was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm taking that genius, genius, Stephen. You
Speaker 1: get a point like right now we're even Stephen even.
Speaker 2: A lot like Bobby Darren that I'm also gonna die
Speaker 2: in a blaze of glory.
Speaker 4: Steven's doing a mastery of many different trivia job.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's potentially break the break the tie here
Speaker 1: with question four. All right. Darren eventually ended up at
Speaker 1: Atlantic Records at CO subsidiary, where he wrote and arranged
Speaker 1: music for himself and others. He created his first album,
Speaker 1: simply entitled Bobby Darren One song from the album that
Speaker 1: Darren co wrote was so popular and successful that it
Speaker 1: launched his career. Reportedly, he was actually dared by a
Speaker 1: friend to write a song with this particular premise. This
Speaker 1: song reached number three on the US Pop Singles Chart
Speaker 1: and number two on the R and B best Seller's Chart.
Speaker 1: What was the song that launched Bobby Darren's career?
Speaker 4: Can I sty it can split splash babe?
Speaker 1: That is correct split splash? So yeah. Reportedly, his friend
Speaker 1: he had a friend who dared him. He said, I
Speaker 1: bet you can't write a song that has splitch splash
Speaker 1: that was taking a bath in it, And he did
Speaker 1: it and it became his biggest hit at the fact.
Speaker 4: That's the title.
Speaker 2: The novelty song launched him.
Speaker 1: To write his career. Yeah, launched his career, gave him
Speaker 1: kind of more freedom to record what he wanted to.
Speaker 4: That's pretty awesome. Yeah, that's a good song too.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, nice jot, Aiden, You get the point
Speaker 1: and that is the end of round one.
Speaker 2: So let's call aid in the sniper the sniper.
Speaker 1: What what's let's do a point check? How many points
Speaker 1: do you chef?
Speaker 4: Two?
Speaker 6: And they were both gained to be a snipe might
Speaker 6: I okay, it's it's Anybody's very very good.
Speaker 4: That's my nickname in the in the Terrible trio.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the dark tryad, dear Lord, stop trying to make
Speaker 7: fetch happen.
Speaker 2: Stephen, they call me the toy Maker's.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 6: If one bird it called Steven the toy baker. In
Speaker 6: the comments the podcast is over.
Speaker 1: No no, no no, don't let our haters win. Aiden,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm sorry, secret, but this is kind of
Speaker 1: a tradition that we have in between the two rounds.
Speaker 1: I always like to ask, what is your favorite Bobby
Speaker 1: Darren's song? And it's just no Aiden, when you start
Speaker 1: us up.
Speaker 4: I like a lot of Bobby Darren's music.
Speaker 6: I think my favorite song, I mean just from a
Speaker 6: sheerl longevity standpoint Somewhere Beyond the Sea, which I know
Speaker 6: is not his song, but it's a very good song.
Speaker 4: And then the other one that I like a lot
Speaker 4: is More.
Speaker 1: But I think I'm still see what's on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I discussed beforehand. I think mine is probably more.
Speaker 2: It's just like a perfect karaoke song. You know, there's
Speaker 2: not like a lot of dead time in it. You
Speaker 2: can go all over the range you can kind of
Speaker 2: change it up how you want. It's just a great song.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Somewhere Beyond the Sea does have that instrumental break where
Speaker 6: if you're doing it at karaoke, you just kind of
Speaker 6: gotta be like.
Speaker 1: Can you stand there?
Speaker 4: G it just start scatting? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think during his rock and roll era, fan of dream.
Speaker 4: On Toasy, did someone someone.
Speaker 1: That's one of the songs, not dream I think you
Speaker 1: mean dream Lover, not Dreamy.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, No, he got confused because they're both rock
Speaker 6: and roll match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both very I had to change mine. I
Speaker 1: I forgot about this. It's not he did not write
Speaker 1: the song, but it's his rendition of this song I
Speaker 1: think really moves me every time I listen to it.
Speaker 1: It's Softly as I Leave You. His rendition of Softly
Speaker 1: as I Leave You is just gorgeous and it's made
Speaker 1: me cry like a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Listen to Wow.
Speaker 1: But I love Mac the Knife, I love Artificial Flowers.
Speaker 1: We'll get into those two songs later. And what is
Speaker 1: your favorite Bobby Darren song? Tell sharing in the comments
Speaker 1: on whatever platform you're listening on.
Speaker 2: Or call me the toy Maker.
Speaker 6: Don't call me, don't do it. My favorite Bobby dared
Speaker 6: sug is the toy Maker.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: Call me the Toymaker.
Speaker 4: That's your challenge.
Speaker 6: I challenge you to write a number one hit with
Speaker 6: the words I'm the toy Baker, the.
Speaker 3: Toker, and I make all the toys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there go. Who knows, you might might launch your career.
Speaker 1: You might launch your career.
Speaker 6: If that launches dude's career, I think that's more of
Speaker 6: a curse anything.
Speaker 1: Maybe his comedy career.
Speaker 3: The toy Maker, seed.
Speaker 1: Capital and a kind of goes hard. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: kind of club.
Speaker 2: That's my evil persona member of the Dark Trian.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go into round two. This is four questions,
Speaker 1: each worth two points.
Speaker 4: Now you got your game is on.
Speaker 1: Here's question five. Splitsh Splash's success launched Darren's career. Dream
Speaker 1: Lover's success gave Bobby Darren the freedom to show off
Speaker 1: more of his skills and expand into new genres. From
Speaker 1: that freedom came his next album, That's All. From this album,
Speaker 1: we got one of Bobby Darren's most iconic songs, Mack
Speaker 1: the Knife. It had previously been sung by Louis Armstrong,
Speaker 1: but the song is actually quite older, being written in
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight. The original version of the song was not, however,
Speaker 1: the big band jazz piece that we know of it today.
Speaker 4: What was the.
Speaker 1: Song's original genre of music before Louis Armstrong then Bobby
Speaker 1: Darren recorded it?
Speaker 2: Okay, snipe, snipe? Oh, I do want to snipe.
Speaker 1: I did hear Aiden actually say it before you.
Speaker 4: But well that was just lag Okay.
Speaker 1: I will say.
Speaker 6: I think Stephen was going I was trying to get
Speaker 6: ahead of him, so I can just say something random, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Well, no, I want to hear what you
Speaker 2: want to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, Aiden, give it a guest, Mack the Knife.
Speaker 4: Original genre yeah, hip pop.
Speaker 1: Opera, No good, guess, Steven Well.
Speaker 2: I believe it was created for the Threepenny Opera, and
Speaker 2: more specifically, it was like the ballad of the Mac character,
Speaker 2: who is like the main character and also anti hero.
Speaker 2: And I do know the story behind it.
Speaker 1: Insane Okay, yes, yes, but what what's so it was
Speaker 1: a threepenny opera? You're correct? But what John? They didn't
Speaker 1: singing operatic music?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it wasn't. It was kind of like a ballad.
Speaker 1: There's a name, there's a word I'm really looking for here, Steve,
Speaker 1: you should have let me read out the options. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give it to you. You've got
Speaker 1: the secret, okay. One of options A was operatic, which
Speaker 1: I already said was wrong, said it. So you have
Speaker 1: three options. Now you've got this. Is it the rack time,
Speaker 1: cabaret or d folk?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 8: I don't think it's folk because even ballad, and you didn't.
Speaker 1: Know that is true? You're right folk? Is that it's
Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty rag time or cabaret. How much
Speaker 1: do you know about your history.
Speaker 5: Of Oh now I know, I don't know much about
Speaker 5: history of anything ever.
Speaker 3: That okay, I to extrapolate extreme, So I have.
Speaker 5: Mortal cabaret or rag time. If I did have to
Speaker 5: say cabaret, you are correct.
Speaker 1: Secret. I'm glad it is cabaret.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: So here's something that's really cool about it. It is
Speaker 1: a murder ballad from the Three Penny Opera, which was
Speaker 1: a Weimer era German cabaret show. A fun fact, but
Speaker 1: the song was actually a last minute addition to the show.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say, Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: pretty cool and that so it might not have ever happened.
Speaker 1: Another fun fact, but it is the kind of music
Speaker 1: and era that the Broadway Cabaret, The broad Show Cabaret
Speaker 1: is based off of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I wanted to say, for extrapolating on the
Speaker 2: last minute edition, it's because like the main actor who
Speaker 2: is going to play Mac, who is like the main
Speaker 2: character slash anti hero. He's like a serial killer in
Speaker 2: the play, but he's also like kind of a Robin
Speaker 2: Hood kind of like, oh, we're gonna redistribute, We're only.
Speaker 4: Going to serial kill the bad guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There, he was like kind of a diva, the actor,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm not going to play unless you
Speaker 2: make a ballad for my main.
Speaker 1: Character, right introduction. I think.
Speaker 2: So they threw it together in like five minutes and
Speaker 2: then that was the most popular song.
Speaker 6: How that song goes actually because it just kind of
Speaker 6: is like telling the story.
Speaker 2: And that's why he's Mac the Knife, that's why originally.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, interesting, we'll see if our editor can put
Speaker 1: a little snippet of the because I think you can
Speaker 1: find like the original song from the Cabaret.
Speaker 4: You should. You should send your editor a link to
Speaker 4: the Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Can do that. I can do that. Are you the editor? Okay,
Speaker 1: I can send you that link. But it's very interesting
Speaker 1: because like you think of Mac and the Knife, you
Speaker 1: think these huge you know, you think of horns, you
Speaker 1: think of but the cabaret music obviously sounds very different
Speaker 1: to that. So it's it's interesting hearing the song in
Speaker 1: a different context.
Speaker 6: Now that you say that, like the intro to the
Speaker 6: musical cabaret also sounds very Mac the Knife. There we go,
Speaker 6: there go, all right, Well, super at the nice job
Speaker 6: you get to.
Speaker 4: That's why they call him the equalizer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn it. Oh gosh, all right, let's go to
Speaker 1: question six. So something that I noticed is I think
Speaker 1: that Bobby Darren has a bit of a dark, slash
Speaker 1: ironic sense of humor or taste of humor maybe, but
Speaker 1: more so like lyrics in his music. So Mack the
Speaker 1: Knife is a really good example, although that had already
Speaker 1: become like a big jazz standard because of Louis Armstrong.
Speaker 1: But he also made a rendition of Clementine that is
Speaker 1: similarly very dark and ironic, if you want to give
Speaker 1: that a listen. But I think nothing demonstrates this point
Speaker 1: better than Bobby Darren's rendition of a song entitled Artificial Flowers,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite Bobby Darren songs. It's
Speaker 1: out there, probably top three for me.
Speaker 4: Could you introduce me to that lot?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of kept across this banger, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came across the banger of Bobby Darren song. The
Speaker 1: original song was written by Jerry Bach and Sheldon Harnick
Speaker 1: for the nineteen sixty musical tender Loin. If those names
Speaker 1: sound familiar. A few years later they would write the
Speaker 1: music and lyrics of which iconic and famous musical is.
Speaker 6: Y I'm going to get this way, but yeah, if
Speaker 6: you read the is it a burgadoon, B Cabaret, see
Speaker 6: Fiddler on the Roof or D Camelot.
Speaker 4: I feel like it has to be Brigadoon.
Speaker 1: You say brigadoon?
Speaker 3: Bling it in?
Speaker 1: What do you think, Stephen, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go Fiddler on the Roof because I like that one.
Speaker 3: It's okay, fair enough ballad, I'm gonna go Cabaret.
Speaker 5: I think it's just very topical and I don't really
Speaker 5: know these that well.
Speaker 1: Fair enough one of you is correct, and it is Stephen. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: fidd on the roof.
Speaker 6: Nice because Cabaret is like way later right, yeah, oh
Speaker 6: I didn't know, and the whole Camelot's the Monty Python
Speaker 6: guys right, like, it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love Camelot. Camelot is Oh no,
Speaker 1: that's that's spam a lot, not Camelot. But it's a
Speaker 1: it's a comedy. It's really really funny. The lusty Month
Speaker 1: of May. It's one of my favorite songs from that
Speaker 1: song from them.
Speaker 4: It's one of the favorite songs.
Speaker 2: I thought you or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good thing. We're in July right now, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Bitch around me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 4: What other musicals did those guys do there?
Speaker 1: I'll have to look at any big ones I think
Speaker 1: those are I'm allowed to google. I mean you may please.
Speaker 2: Wow breaking his own rules and that's why he's the
Speaker 2: ring leader of the trees.
Speaker 1: In that's all right, I can I'm the rule.
Speaker 6: Breaker, secretly making it the real, the real treeson thing
Speaker 6: about the trees and trios, the fact that there's four
Speaker 6: it's a quarter, yeah, secretly.
Speaker 1: Frella Filler on the roof. Filler on the Roof is
Speaker 1: probably the most famous.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Steve. When you do get those two points,
Speaker 1: don't forget question seven. Starting in nineteen sixty two, Darren
Speaker 1: started releasing country and folk music, though kind of in
Speaker 1: his own style. They I feel like they were he
Speaker 1: like incorporated some big band influences, so he kind of
Speaker 1: made them his own. Possibly the most iconic song from
Speaker 1: this era is Bobby Darren's song eighteen yellow roses. Eighteen
Speaker 1: yellow roses to today, Giving someone roses. Depending on the
Speaker 1: number and color means different things. Red roses are obviously
Speaker 1: associated with romance, pink roses admiration. Yellow roses have their
Speaker 1: own connotation. But what is the connotation of specifically eighteen
Speaker 1: yellow roses? Is it A wishing someone a happy eighteenth birthday,
Speaker 1: b expressing gratitude to a friend with eighteen symbolizing forever,
Speaker 1: see wishing someone congratulations for a college graduation, or d
Speaker 1: wishing a couple a long and faithful marriage with eighteen
Speaker 1: symbolizing forever. You've said that twice now, Midge, eighteen is
Speaker 1: a very long time, like but not forever, or.
Speaker 2: E symbolizing the twelve late.
Speaker 4: Eighteen symbolizing forever.
Speaker 6: Twelve eighteen birthdays just right on the nose there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say now, I almost sniped.
Speaker 2: Sorry, college, I almost sniped with eighteen years old. But
Speaker 2: maybe that's just what wrong. My instincts are so wrong.
Speaker 4: But it symbolizes forever, Steven.
Speaker 2: Eighteen does symbolize forever. We all know this.
Speaker 4: This is a known fact across the board.
Speaker 2: I don't know eighteen. You know it's when you become
Speaker 2: an adult. Maybe there's some additional symbolism in the song.
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to this song. I'll be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll say eighteen years old because that just makes sense.
Speaker 2: That's all I almost sniped with. I'll go with my first.
Speaker 8: I'm going to go with the with the friendship one
Speaker 8: because I think, you know, that would be something I
Speaker 8: could see somebody write a song about. And it seems
Speaker 8: like a nice way to say I'll be your friend forever,
Speaker 8: because the other ones are.
Speaker 3: Like love, admiration. Friendship seems to, you know, be in
Speaker 3: that realm.
Speaker 4: Of poss low kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: So I made up the bit about eighteen symbolizing forever
Speaker 1: does not answer. The answer is the obviously answer. It's
Speaker 1: a which is wishing some Steven might have running away
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 2: This is my eighteenth birthday.
Speaker 6: He gets two points in eighteen yellow roses because forever
Speaker 6: double digits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, double digits. Yeah, so you're going to go out
Speaker 2: and drink now that I'm eighteen, and yellow.
Speaker 1: Is about like friendship and or like relationships that are
Speaker 1: not romantic. But eighteen specifically is given as a sign of,
Speaker 1: like you maturing into adulthood, which is typically into eighteen
Speaker 1: years old. So you could give eighteen yellow roses to
Speaker 1: someone graduating college because it's them moving in what you
Speaker 1: could you could, I guess, but you would probably just
Speaker 1: give them yellow roses, not eighteen yellow roses, because.
Speaker 4: Give them twelve yellow roses for the twelve labors a.
Speaker 1: Right for the twelve labors.
Speaker 2: Symbolizing the twelve labors.
Speaker 1: Yea, because I'm telling you it's the most most mentioned anyways.
Speaker 1: A little fun fact in conjunction with the switch to
Speaker 1: folk music, Darren went political. I mean, that's folk music
Speaker 1: for you, because explicitly political. He got woke, Darren, he
Speaker 1: went woke. He traveled with Robert F. Kennedy and worked
Speaker 1: on the Politicians nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign. He was
Speaker 1: actually with Kennedy and also at the Ambassador Hotel later
Speaker 1: that night when Kennedy was assassinated. That event, plus learning
Speaker 1: about his true parentage that happened actually at the same time,
Speaker 1: which is crazy, what like really affected him so like
Speaker 1: around the same time he found out that he his
Speaker 1: true parentage, and that was when.
Speaker 4: He drove him to assassity.
Speaker 6: No no, no, So he.
Speaker 1: Took like a pretty He took a break basically from
Speaker 1: music for a while after that because he was so affected.
Speaker 1: But when he returned, he released the album Bobby Darren
Speaker 1: born Walden Robert Casado, which consisted of compositions entirely of him.
Speaker 1: Give it a listen if you haven't already. Each song
Speaker 1: actually tackles a different political issue of the time, and
Speaker 1: in particular, there's a song called in Memoriam At the
Speaker 1: very end, I believe that is his kind of retelling
Speaker 1: of his perspective of the assassination and the funeral. It's
Speaker 1: a very chilling song. It's just him with a guitar
Speaker 1: and singing the song. It's very emotional and powerful. So
Speaker 1: give it a listen if you haven't already. All right, well,
Speaker 1: nice job, Steven, you hit those two points man, and
Speaker 1: Stephen is running away with it.
Speaker 2: Call me the toy maker.
Speaker 4: We have to stop calling Steven the toy bit.
Speaker 2: It's too powerful. We can't do this.
Speaker 1: And we only have one question less Oh no, this
Speaker 1: is question eight. I mentioned earlier that Bobby knew that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't live a long life. I wish this was
Speaker 1: a story of him living much longer than expected, but
Speaker 1: Darren would die in nineteen seventy three at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty seven. In nineteen ninety, Darren was inducted into
Speaker 1: the Rock and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 1: would argue Darren actually did write rock and roll music,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made some.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety nine, he was voted into the Songwriters
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame too, because he wrote plenty of songs
Speaker 1: as well, and his death obviously rocked the world. But
Speaker 1: my question is how did he die? What led to
Speaker 1: his death?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Ultimately, Oh shit, I know this seems snipable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll snipe Okay, I want specifics.
Speaker 4: I think it was. I think his heart gave out.
Speaker 2: That's not going to cut it.
Speaker 6: Does zachar got to cut it? Did he have like
Speaker 6: surgery or something and his heart caave out?
Speaker 1: No? Sorry, no, sorry, you're out of there. A broken
Speaker 1: heart than Steven option A. He had a heart attack
Speaker 1: while he was flying in a plane and he crashed
Speaker 1: the plane and died. B He suffered a major heart
Speaker 1: attack on stage and died in surgery. See he forgot
Speaker 1: to take his antibiotics before a dental surgery and got
Speaker 1: sepsis or d He had lung cancer caused by years
Speaker 1: of smoking.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's lung cancer.
Speaker 3: I don't know either. I don't live super long.
Speaker 6: And how Yeah, it's almost like smoking is good for you, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The dentistry thing sounds real, but I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if what Aiden's attempted snipe is like steering
Speaker 2: me towards the heart attack direction, because beforehand I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have known.
Speaker 4: Well, they don't call him Bobby dentists, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. He would by daring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I like I like the the dentist
Speaker 2: one the most. I think if you came up with that,
Speaker 2: good job, that was clever. So I'm going to go
Speaker 2: with that. And he gave me a thumbs up as
Speaker 2: I said that, So I hope that wasn't confirmation you
Speaker 2: made it up. I've already committed, so.
Speaker 1: I'm a little tricky in this instant. In this instance,
Speaker 1: I am not being a little tricky because indeed, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: he forgot to take his antibiotics. And so my understanding
Speaker 1: is that because of his heart conditions and because of
Speaker 1: his frailty, Like typically if you have a history of
Speaker 1: real bad Yeah, so you were like basically, if you
Speaker 1: were doing any kind of surgery, you have to take
Speaker 1: antibiotics before it. So he did not take his antibiotics.
Speaker 1: He got the dental procedure, and he got sepsist and
Speaker 1: then ultimately that led to an open heart surgery that ultimately.
Speaker 4: Causes very sad So you you didn't even have a
Speaker 4: heart attack.
Speaker 6: They just opened up his chest and then yeah, it's
Speaker 6: because of the sepsist they had to to to work
Speaker 6: on him, and ultimately he just didn't survive.
Speaker 2: Dang, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: And I actually looked it up because I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that it wasn't like the doctor's mistake. No,
Speaker 1: they like prescribed him, he just didn't He either didn't
Speaker 1: pick it up or he didn't take it. Unfortunately. Moral
Speaker 1: of the story, friends, if your doctor tells you to
Speaker 1: take antibiotics before a surgery, do what they say, listen
Speaker 1: to the experts, listen to your doctors.
Speaker 2: Yeah fair enough, Yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 4: Have you try alternative medicine.
Speaker 2: If you liked your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Speaker 4: That's how they called Stephen the doctor that's taken.
Speaker 2: Never mind, I'm stuck with what I am.
Speaker 1: Which is what stupid?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What did you ask him?
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked the toynaker?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Is that I got Final Jeopardy?
Speaker 1: That is the final score.
Speaker 4: I didn't get any of that last right, and I only.
Speaker 3: Have two, got three.
Speaker 6: I got seven our winners.
Speaker 1: Nice job.
Speaker 2: Does that mean I get to choose the next artist?
Speaker 4: No Aerosmith Arrowsmith's.
Speaker 1: Would I could do one on Ricky Nelson, but I
Speaker 1: don't know who knows about Ricky Neilson, so probably it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. I could do one on Michael Buble if
Speaker 1: we really want Michael as actually no death, he's still
Speaker 1: still living.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's he has so much going now, mister Bubble.
Speaker 4: That sounds like you.
Speaker 2: What do you know, mister Bubble?
Speaker 6: I can't can Let's just say the value of his
Speaker 6: signature is gonna go up.
Speaker 3: And I'm doing January third.
Speaker 4: I could do John John.
Speaker 1: Okay, who do you all want to hear about? Tell
Speaker 1: us in the comments. Think I should do next? I
Speaker 1: think I would like to do John Denver? Who would
Speaker 1: you prefer? John Denver or Michael Booble? Tell us for
Speaker 1: Ricky or Ricky Nelson or.
Speaker 2: Tell us the comments right. If you agree that it
Speaker 2: should be West no.
Speaker 1: Anything but that, please write in the comments. If you
Speaker 1: think that Aerosmith is a rock and roll band.
Speaker 3: Let us know in the comments. Write in the comments
Speaker 3: to your favorite member of the Dark Triad.
Speaker 6: Is yeah, And write in the comments your favorite Bobby
Speaker 6: dren SNG.
Speaker 4: Remember to do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember that too? Yeah, do all that in the comments.
Speaker 6: Okay, expect you each a three paragraph essay, one introduction,
Speaker 6: three body paragraphs for each of the each of the
Speaker 6: questions that we asked, and then.
Speaker 3: The biotics doctor prescribe you.
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Speaker 1: of our theme song five nine seven eight, which was
Speaker 1: not written by Bobby Darren, but still it is a
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