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Speaker 3: College football talk here with the Big Twelve insider front

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of the program.

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on your podcast network. Without further ado, let's get out

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to the hotline and welcome in. We got John Kurtz

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on the line. John, thanks for doing us today.

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Speaker 1: I ain't no problem wrong. Great to talk to you man.

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Speaker 2: Of course, let's get right into it.

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Speaker 3: Just before we get into the Big Twelve reveal of

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overall schedule case state what they have BYU, let's just

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go general college football news. Indiana completes the tour. They

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complete the journey. Undefeated season, Fernando Mendo is a great story.

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It's one you have to be excited about. Everybody thought

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college foot ball was broken. It is not, apparently, your

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thoughts just on the miraculous season that Indiana had and

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that the SEC is not the best football conference in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I love this story. Like this should be

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such a refreshing thing for almost everybody in college football.

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Like in the twenty tens, you were just stuck in

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this perpetual environment of the same like five or six

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schools winning the national championship. It was going to be

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Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, LSU. I mean, that's basically your

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tier of national championship teams that it was going back

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and forth, back and forth between all those. This now

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proves that things are wide open and the SEC has

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not been able to figure out this new nil transferport

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a world of college football as much as the rest

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of the sport has. I think it's neutralized some of

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their advantages, certainly like proximity to talent, which is something

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that it had in spades before that. But it's just

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a remarkable story. Not just the fact that Indiana went

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sixteen and oh a year after Steve Sarkey at a

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press conference said like, hey, no one's going to go

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sixteen to zero anymore. But it's the way that they

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beat teams too. I know they didn't exactly pummel Miami,

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but they were in control for the entire game. They

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obviously drilled Oregon and Alabama before that. I mean, they

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were just a wrecking crew. And they did it with

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seven players that were four star or better out of

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high school on their roster, which is just flabbergasting, you know.

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blue chip ratio what percentage of your roster needs to

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be four and five star prospects to win a national championship.

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of that, and now it's like, hey, other teams in

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the Big twelve probably should be looking around, like maybe

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blue chip ratio on our roster, or even like a

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Texas Tech caliber roster to do this. If you can

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in this era. So I think it's a really refreshing

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thing for the sport and should be should be celebrated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they put the I think the college football world

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on notice, especially Kirstinetti said in the post game. You know,

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in the college football playoffs after winning, they didn't spend

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that much money on their roster. You probably saw the

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video of ESPN Matt ESPN's Matt Berry and Paul Fineba.

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find that funny of what what's true, what's not?

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Speaker 2: Where is the lie? But you mentioned the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 3: This is the good news is BYU that team, it

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kind of feels like if you look at a not

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a Cinderella, but a culture culture who's not gonna do

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things maybe the traditional way. It feels like BYU Kansas State,

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they want. They could get the pick of a litter,

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but they say, no, let's stay at home and let's

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build what we have well.

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Speaker 1: BYU is a really interesting case to me for next

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year because I think, especially comparing them to Texas Tech,

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because I do feel like both BYU and Tech are

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head and shoulders above the rest of the conference, or

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at least there's a sizable gap between them and like

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your next tier of like a maybe Houston, Arizona, Utah

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like next year. But I really do think that BYU's

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combo of not just some really key additions in the

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transfer portal. Obviously adding arguably the best linebacker in the

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portal is huge when you lose a guy like Jack Kelly,

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but they maintain virtually everybody else, and so you do

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have that culture that you mentioned. The retention helps out

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a lot, the camaraderie that you've developed there with that team.

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obviously as they did the year before, but you still

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have to make that work. You still have to make

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those p fit together every single year. I think that's

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more challenging than just retaining the core of your entire

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team like BYU as well sprinkling in some really nice

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transfers there. So I'll be very intrigued to see how

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that's going to work, especially as bear Bachmeyer continues to develop,

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very good quarterback, but is bear Bachmeyer ceiling higher? And

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does that start as a sophomore. So I think BYU

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definitely could make a run to the playoff. And the

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other thing that's going to help out this year, or

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at least has the potential to really help out, is

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having that Notre Dame game on October seventeenth. You know,

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twenty three games, but still being on the outside looking

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into the playoff and really on the outside looking in

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of even the discussion of being a playoff team, which

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was the frustrating part for me as an outsider watching

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it unfold. Golden opportunity to change that narrative this year

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with Notre Dame. I mean, you look at Notre Dame's

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first five games before that one, I think Notre Dame's

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probably going to be undefeated. I know they've started slow

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under Marcus Emans, but the odds, I think would tell

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you that's going to be an unbeaten Notre Dame team

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come to town. That could be a monster statement win

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for the program for the conference too. But you think

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about BYU's on flight with trying to get into the

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playoff and take that next step as a program. Everything

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has set up this year outside of maybe losing Jay

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Hill and Genero Gilford from the staff, But man, I mean,

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you kept all that talent around, You kept Kalani Sataki,

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No Notre Dame agrees to come to your house to

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play that game. It feels like this is setting up

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for a year where BYU could be taking that next step.

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Speaker 4: John, It's interesting that you bring up that Notre Dame

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game because I kind of feel like Notre Dame's entire

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season hinges on their trip to Provo because the rest

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of their schedule is pretty weak. What do you make

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of Notre Dame, Like if they don't beat BYU, I

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feel like they don't really have anyone else on that

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schedule that really bolsters an independent resume.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point. I mean, Notre Dame's for as

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much crap as Texas Tech is taking for its schedule,

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which I'm not saying it's the Red Raider's fault, but

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because it's pretty Taylor made to just waltz back to Arlington.

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Notre Dame's the team nationally that's getting a lot of that. No,

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they do have Miami on the schedule, and I mean,

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the on their portal editions, generally they're going to be

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a pretty good team. But you know, that's sort of

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care of business enough against that type of a schedule,

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think we're probably just going to have a twelve team

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playoff again next year. For coming right up to that deadline.

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seem like that's going to happen. So yeah, Notre Dame

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will absolutely need that game like that, that's going to

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become a really big game for the Fighting Irish. I

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think both Notre Dame and BYU have to be rooting

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for each other to take care of business leading up

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to that game and after that game, to make that

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as prominent of a game as they possibly can. Of course,

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pretty strong team. So that's a that's a game that

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Notre Dame really needs to replace with some actual oops

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to it, you know, some strength to it, and BYU

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offers that opportunity. So it's a great point. As important

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as it is for BYU, it is also going to

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be an important one for the Fighting Irish.

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Speaker 3: Here with John Kurtz on the line, he has the

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Kirts you can get all your podcasts Nework. And he

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Speaker 2: You bring up the point about BYU Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: If BYU gets that game against Notre Dame, can they

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still afford to have a loss in conference because we

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saw BYU this last year John only lose to the

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best team in the Big Twelve and you're not supposed

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to be punished for the title game, but they were.

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College Football Playoff Committee, unless you're a big brand, they're

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not valuing They value good wins and good losses when

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was running through the kind of the math

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third core in the Big Twelve Championship game, and it

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just snowballed and got away from them. But I think,

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you know, final score definitely told the story in a

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lot of people's minds. If you can be more competitive

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at least this year, then maybe you do have a

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chance with a Notre Dame win in your in your

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back pocket. I am with you. I'm always going to

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be inclined to be cynical about it until I actually

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see Byu get put into the playoff to get over

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that hump. I do really think the Notre Dame game

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could go a long way toward just kind of flipping

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that narrative. You know, I view it's sort of like

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a seesaw on You just need a little bit more

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weight on the one side to just flip it where

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it's like, Okay, wait, hold up. They've won twenty three

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games the last two years now. They just proved at

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home that they could beat Notre Dame, and we just

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assumed last year Notre Dame would wipe the floor with them.

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Maybe we should be thinking about this differently, and then

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maybe that it's the Sea saw On things change pretty

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dramatically because of that. I think that would be the

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way you hope that it goes. But I understand some

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cynicism on that in not being able to afford a

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loss possibly the rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: John, I'm glad you bring up those two games against

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BYU from Texas Tech last year because as the Big

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twelve insider, we got to go back after watching what

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happened to Texas Tech's offense in that Oregon game, my

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brain is a little bit twisting in pretzels trying to

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understand just who and just how good that Texas Tech

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offense is. I know the season's over, but I'd love

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to get your perspective. We know the defense was unbelievable,

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we know what they did to Oregon's offense. The problem

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was it looked like Baron Morton had money on Oregon

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in that one because he couldn't even hit checkdowns. But

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it was so uncharacteristic of what we had seen from

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that offense through the entire day of the season. What

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did you make of Texas Tech offense given again once

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what they did to BYU, but then also juxtaposing with

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what they weren't able to do against Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was jarring to see that, and

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it was definitely a bad look for the conference for sure.

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I think the reputation of the conference took a hit

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with that in retrospect. To be honest, as I thought

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back to it, it really was not. It was surprising

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that it looked that bad, but it shouldn't have been

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that stuff because Tech Tech offense was not like a

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total well oiled machine throughout the year. It was certainly

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more than adequate against Big twelve competition when you have

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the defense doing what it's doing, you know. I mean,

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I think the defense helped it out a lot. Was

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frustrating the other team, just completely controlling the game, sending

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them up in advantageous spots. But remember games like I mean,

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they kicked like seven field goals in the win at

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Houston early in the year. I watched them play in Manhattan.

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Baron Morton was just coming back from injury then he

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still looked a bit off the offense. So many of

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these games were fairly close until like midway through the

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third quarter, and then Tech finally gets up by two scores.

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Then the other team has to drop back all the

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time and start throwing the ball, and the pass rush

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can sen its ears back. They start forcing turnovers. You know,

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I mean exactly the same thing that happened to BYU

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and the big Bold Championship game happened to KSE State

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in Manhattan that blew open a close game stripsack, touchdown, interception,

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interception when case State's just in desperation mode trying to

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make up for a multi score lead. So it really

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it was not this dominant offense outside of like the

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fourth quarter at Utah, which was not even Baron Morton

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playing quarterbacks. So I actually did feel a bit vindicated,

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and like I always had doubts about Baron Morton, and

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nothing against the kid. He seems like a really good dude.

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And I understand why you couldn't just hand the reins

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over to Will Hammon mid season, and I think ham

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had showed that he wasn't totally ready for that either.

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But in terms of like having a ceiling to go

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win playoff games, I just don't think Baron Morton had that,

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and Tech was able to cruise as they should have.

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I mean, they played it the right way, but they

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were able to cruiz behind the strength of that defense

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and a couple pretty solid running backs and an offensive

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line that was pretty good and I think was just

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good enough to do enough against big twelve teams. But

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when it came up against a team in the College

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Football Playoff that was good and talented enough to provide

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a real serious resistance, I just don't think Baron Morton,

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especially a hobbled version of Baron Morton, had it in

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him to make the throws and make the plays that

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Texas Tech was going to need. I think of that

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organ game like they needed a quarterback that could have

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gotten out with his feet and made some plays, and

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like Barren Morton's not really that type of guy anyway,

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his foot, like, good luck making that happen. And I

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think you especially saw that come to fruition in the

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red zone, you know. I mean it was a thirteen

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to nothing game, like late in the third quarter, early

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fourth quarter even right, and Texas Tech has goal to

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go you know where they can cut it to a

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one score game. But that's where I think they were

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hurt the most by Barren's physical limitations was that you

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can't use quarterback run game in the red zone. They

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needed somebody who could do that. I think. Obviously the

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hope is that Brendan Soorsby is going to be that

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guy throughout the year and hopefully can stay healthy and

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do that for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely if they had Brendan Soorsby, he to use

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his legs a little bit more. He did in that

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BAU Cincinnati game and kind of gave you Bau Texas

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Tech vibes when Texas Tech played orgon the turnovers, the

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defense keeping him in it for so long. But ultimately,

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you turn the ball over in the red zone, you

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throw off your back foot in a double coverage, you

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don't float the.

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Speaker 2: Ball to the back of the pylon.

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Speaker 3: Bad things happened, and they did a lot of people

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saying up that didn't help the Big twelve lose in Oregon.

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It's in the past now, I mean, to the point,

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Texas Tech schedule is just for people that don't know

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to give just the listeners they play. Abilene Christian Oregon State,

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Houston Sam Houston State.

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Speaker 2: As well the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: They play at Colorado, Arizona State at home, at Cincinnati, Arizona, Westernia,

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Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU. Is what the schedule that they

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have John, before we get into the BAU schedule, what

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you like about it? I feel like they can run

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the table. Even beating Norre Dame at home should be

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why you be the favorite coming back next year. You've

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heard the conversations, You've heard the many of the sound clips.

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It's tough with how the Texas Tech is rebuilding a

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defensive line. But the continuity of BYU, I feel like

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when you look at Indiana, that speaks louder to even

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if you pay players who are good players in the

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portal to come over, I.

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Speaker 1: Would say I think BYU has closed the gap. Now.

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Brendan Soorsby holds a lot of the cards here because

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if he really is like number one player in the

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transferportal good, which I'm a bit skeptical of, but some

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have ranked him as that maybe that elevates the Texas

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Tech offense enough that it makes just a massive, massive

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difference there. But I think the continuity of BYU has

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closed the gap on Tech, and I still think both

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of those teams to me are the class of the conference.

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So I would just have I would still say Texas

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Tech number one BYU number two. I wouldn't even quite

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go like one A, one B, but I think it's

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pretty close. And I really wish that they did play

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each other in the regular season. Obviously, I understand that

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the schedule was made a couple of years ago, and

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you can't just be so reactive that you're trying to

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tinker with the schedule based on what happened the previous year.

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But no, I think by using great shape to get

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back to the Big Twelve championship game, if if you

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put a gun to my head right now, I'd say,

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I think we just get the same Big Twelve championship

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game next season between both of those two. So that's

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kind of my feel right now. Somebody always seems to surprise,

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and that's that's been a hallmark of this new look

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Big Twelve ever since Texas and Oklahoma left. But you know,

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I don't know, there's been some love for Arizona State

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out there. They I think have the toughest schedule in

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the conference. You know, they lost Levitt Jordan Tyson, really Brown.

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They awesome guys in that defense. Like, I don't know,

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there's a lot to replace there. Houston I think will

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be good. Arizona I think can be good. I'm intrigued

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by Utah. They've got obviously both quarterbacks back. You know,

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those teams might have something to say about it. But

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I still would would pencil in BYU to the Big

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Twelve championship game right now?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they run the table?

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to win and going defeated in college

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football in general, but in the Big Twelve, do you

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do you think they go ing tofeed it?

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Speaker 2: Like you said, they don't have to see Texas Tech

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this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. I'm looking down the schedule. I mean

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the Utah game obviously will be very very interesting. It

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feels like that game, since both teams now are in

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the Big Twelve, it just feels like that game is

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going to be a one possession game no matter where

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it's played. Yeah right, I think you'll get a knockdown,

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drag out no matter what the circumstances are in that game.

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I do you know tricky game of Arizona in Week

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two is something I would watch out for on the schedule,

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because again, to if a feet a back, that should

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give Arizona a jumpstart, and they won nine games last

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year feeling better as a program. TCU. If their transfer

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quarterback from Harvard is as advertised, that's a team that

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could be pretty strong too there in week four. But

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I think, you know, a lot of this is pretty

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darn manageable for BYU. I wouldn't predict undefeated right now.

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I think that's within the realm of possibility, but especially

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thinking about that Notre Dame game, I would stay away

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from a proclamation of unbeaten, but I don't think it's

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beyond the Cougar's capability to do that. And really, one

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thing I probably haven't talked about enough is just like,

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what kind of elite does does bear Bachmeyer make in

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year two?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 1: You know, still as the same offensive coordinator, you've got

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continuity there, how big of a step forward can he take?

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Because you know, I think I'm doing some of this

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math in my head thinking of the Bear Bachmeyer you

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got last year, who was one of the better freshman

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quarterbacks in college football history. But now, what does that

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dude do when he has a second year starting under

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his Belt, So that could certainly elevate the ceiling of

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the Cougars a lot too.

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Speaker 2: Definitely could.

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Speaker 3: And I like the weapons that they've added to and

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he's going to get a full spring ball of full offseason.

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It's not going to come in June and have to

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compete for the starting job. So you bring up a

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lot of good points there. Let's end with Kansas State though,

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is to Colin klein Era. I looked at the k

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State schedule. Some formidable falls on this, But how do

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you feel about the schedule, you know, Avery Johnson coming back,

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how do you feel like Hey State can fair in

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the first year under Colin?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think schedule wise, they got a pretty favorable

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draw here. The non conference schedule is nothing crazy. They

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played Nickel State, Washington State, and Tulane, and will Tulane

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has given them fits. They lost the game the year

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they won the Big Twelf Championship to Willie Fritzton Tulane.

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At that time in Manhattan, they came within an eyelash

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of losing at TWU Lane the next year in Averray

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Johnson's first year starting QB. This is a team that's

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recouping with an internal hire after losing John summerl as

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it's head coach, so I think that's going to be

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more manageable. Big key here. You've got no Texas Tech,

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no BYU on the schedule, so that's a real help.

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And I think the toughest team that you're going to

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see on this schedule is Houston. That game is in Manhattan,

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so you do get that one at home. Arizona's also

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at home, which might be the second most difficult there.

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So bro trips to Cincinnati, Arizona State, Colorado, Iowa State,

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who knows what Iowa State is going to be. That

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is the last game of the regular season. But Matt

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Campbell being gone there helps because he just had Chris

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Clemens number. He put Case State put k State through

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hell the last few years, So you know, I'm cautiously optimistic.

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It's hard. They have a lot of new players. They

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have I think it's twenty six new players for the

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transfer portal. I'm trying to remember if there was another

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one or two added since that was the number. But

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they're going to have close to thirty new player. Avery

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Johnson is back, but you lost you lost some guys

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to really big programs. Jace Brown went to LSU. Two

487
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of your defensive linemen went to go play for Kurt

488
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Signetti at Indiana Austin Romain. Your best linebacker went to

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go play at techs Tech. So they did lose some talent.

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I think they feel like they've created a deeper roster

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that perhaps won't be his reliant on some of those

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frontline guys. They have strategically gone about this a little

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bit differently. And yes, they did get Avery Johnson back,

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which I think is a big help. And Colin Kline,

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a guy who recruited him in the first place and

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began working with him a couple of years ago, when

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he looked his best, he looked his most confident. He

498
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wasn't doing nearly as much because he wasn't the starter,

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splitting time with Will Howard, but he definitely looked his

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best running the football when Colin Klein was the offensive

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coordinator at Case State a couple of seasons ago. So

502
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cautiously optimistic that this can be seven, eight, maybe nine

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win team, but it just there's so much variance. Man

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in a transfer portal era with a totally new coaching

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staff and a first time head coach. Much as I

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love him and much as I think he has a

507
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lot of potential, and you hope that he's KSE State's

508
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version of Kenny Dillingham. It's hard for me to go

509
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out and definitively predict that, Hey, this team is going

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to contend or challenge for anything next year. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna need to see it and see how it

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all looks before I fully get on board.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look, he might shock the world. You never know,

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he might end up eight to nine wins.

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Speaker 3: They could be undefeated through most part of the week.

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You know that Houston game is I think the first

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real tough challenge. I don't think they'll have any issues

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with Cincinnati on the road, and they get a lot

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of these guys at home. Uh yeah, Arizona State, you

520
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don't know what they're gonna be. And then Colorado Dion

521
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doesn't seem like they figured it out. But yeah, we're

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gonna find out what case State is. I would love

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to see BAU and KSE State go out in the

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Big twelve Championship if that were to be the.

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Speaker 2: Case, but that is a long way away. John.

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