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<v Speaker 1>Caalaroga, Shock Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, busy one today, I'm Johnny mag with your

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<v Speaker 2>daily comedy names. Let me do the eight block and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll tell you what's going on long show today. Shockingly,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this. After Midnight canceled by CBS. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it was a mutual decision. Taylor Tomlinson has

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<v Speaker 2>decided to return to stand up. I saw this just

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<v Speaker 2>after I put Thursday's show to bed, and I was like, WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I couldn't jump in and make an edit. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do other things, like prep what I

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<v Speaker 2>had to teach at my college class on Thursday. Warning,

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor explains, I'm doing less stand up than I was

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<v Speaker 2>before hosting After Midnight. I was on tour three weekends

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<v Speaker 2>a month for years. So to take this job and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always gonna have to scale back a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>was a very difficult decision for me. I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 2>if it was something I want to do or not,

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<v Speaker 2>because stand up is the most important thing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most rewarding thing I'll Last month, during a

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<v Speaker 2>panel at south By, Taylor said, I'm doing less stand

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<v Speaker 2>up than I was before hosting After midnight. I was

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<v Speaker 2>on tour three weekends a month for years, so to

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<v Speaker 2>take the job and know that I was gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to scale back a little bit was very difficult for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure if it was something I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do or not. Because stand up is the most important

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<v Speaker 2>thing to me, It's the most rewarding thing. I was

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<v Speaker 2>very clear about that in the interview process. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you know, this will never be my first love.

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<v Speaker 2>This show will never be my thing thing. Stand up

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<v Speaker 2>is the most important thing to me, and as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I can do both, I'd love to do both.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently she meant. In a statement, Taylor Thomlinson thanked Stephen Colbert,

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<v Speaker 2>producer of the show, justa thank thee staff, and cru

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<v Speaker 2>CBS says it will not come up with a new

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirty show. I don't think that's crazy. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different time, and I was thinking back even

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<v Speaker 2>when Letterman was on, my godmother bought me a VCR

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the greatest thing ever. I never watched

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<v Speaker 2>Letterman live after that. In the early days before the VCR,

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer, I would stay up until one o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning He couldn't even make it to the

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<v Speaker 2>end of a Letterman even though I was a teenager

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<v Speaker 2>during school. Forget it, watch a show twelve thirty, How's

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<v Speaker 2>that gonna happen? And Letterman wasn't even on on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>They had Friday night videos, so you couldn't even stay

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<v Speaker 2>up late the one day. But I remember the summer

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<v Speaker 2>staying up waiting for Dave to come on at twelve thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>which is how I wound up watching Johnny Carson. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the thing you stared at to kill time until

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirty. No Internet, we had five channels. Totally different

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<v Speaker 2>time guys. I lived in Queens, New York. Queen's New

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<v Speaker 2>Work wasn't wired for cable until nineteen eighty seven, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he stared at Johnny Carson. Eventually Dave came on. I

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<v Speaker 2>digress CBS not coming up on the new twelve thirty show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's crazy at all. There's also some

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<v Speaker 2>industry speculation. Now will NBC react in tel Seth Meyers, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks man Seth. If somebody says SNL, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to grab that gig. Unfortunately, as many as two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>staffers could be affected by the decision do two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people work on After Midnight? Now, I get there were writers.

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<v Speaker 2>I get this, a support staff, somebody's paying the bills,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's building the sets, somebody's booking the guests, somebody's letting

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd in, somebody's editing the tape. I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred Yeah, that sounds like a lot. I worked

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<v Speaker 2>on a TV show, Doctor Joy Brown had a syndicated

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<v Speaker 2>talk show. Let's say that was when I got my

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<v Speaker 2>first computer and cell phone Circle ninety five ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an hour a day, five days a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell you we didn't have two hundred people,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was also a different time. The entire social

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<v Speaker 2>media team was me, but there wasn't much social media

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<v Speaker 2>to be done in nineteen ninety five. It was more

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<v Speaker 2>like going on O, going like AOL chats and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to promote the show. I digress again. Late nighter,

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<v Speaker 2>watched the end of Colbert's show and at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven said, this is the part of the show where

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<v Speaker 2>I usually say stick around for Taylor Thompson on After Midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy doing that, not just because I'm an

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<v Speaker 2>executive producer on that show, but because she's incredibly funny

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<v Speaker 2>and I really liked that show. Unfortunately, After Midnight is

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<v Speaker 2>going to end in June. I believe the show had

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<v Speaker 2>been picked up for a third season, So this sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like Taylor has changed her mind and wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to stand up. That's what Taylor said in her statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Colbert went on to reiterate what he had said in

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<v Speaker 2>his press statement. According to Late Nighter, CBS just gave

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<v Speaker 2>us a pick up for a third season, but Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>has decided to return his stand up full time. And

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who's done this job for twenty years, I

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<v Speaker 2>completely respect her enormously as a comedian, and I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>a very hard decision on how to best use her

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<v Speaker 2>time and talent. Colbert went on to thank CBS for

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<v Speaker 2>their support. I've been doing this a long time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you rarely have partners that good, Meaning CBS, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to work on one of these shows like we do

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<v Speaker 2>to understand all the time and effort the amazing staff

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<v Speaker 2>After Midnight put into it, not only launching a new show,

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<v Speaker 2>but also creating a new form of one of these

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<v Speaker 2>shows for a late night time slot. Are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to pretend that Chris Hardwick didn't do this already. Are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to do that? Steven? Come on. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to try something new, and it's rare for a network

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<v Speaker 2>to say we'd like more of that. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a straight deal. I think Missus Taylor wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to stand up. But I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that. My spidery sense isn't tingling. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I come on here Monday and I'm like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got an update, don't be shocked. Did you watch John

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<v Speaker 2>Mulaney this week? I haven't. I don't feel the need

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it, which is a shame because I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited about it as I put together the show.

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<v Speaker 2>No milany related stories are organically coming to me. If

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<v Speaker 2>I type in John Mulaney, still kind of nothing. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember Pete Davidson was the guest and I typed in

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Davidson, which surfaced something about mullaney. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's any buzz on that show. As I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to you, it is two twenty four pm on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to type in Netflix top ten. I

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<v Speaker 2>did this half an hour ago, so I know where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going here. But I'm gonna do it again quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>live to you. So my source here is Netflix. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on netflix dot com. Top ten shows in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one Adolescents here, that's really good. Number two the Residents,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys at trivia we're talking about that. Three is

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<v Speaker 2>Burt Kreischer's lucky and so let's stop there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you define top ten? I don't know. Streamer

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<v Speaker 2>math can be a little wonky, and so you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>something like suits being quote unquote number one, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of suits. Like you could sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>watch sixteen hours of suits, which might increase whatever metric

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking at, total hours viewed whatever. Burt Kreischer it's

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<v Speaker 2>an hour, as is John mulaney. So there's a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sort of equal. It's at least apples and a

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<v Speaker 2>different type of apple. It's not apples and oranges. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comparing an hour of Burt Kreischer and an hour

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<v Speaker 2>of John mullaney. So again, one is adolescents, which again

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<v Speaker 2>you might binge and watch all four the Residents you

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<v Speaker 2>might binge and watch is there eight? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Three is Burt Kreischer. Four is the Saint Patrick's Day

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Raw. Not this week's the March seventeenth one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Five is Temptation Island Season one, six, Miss

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel Season one, seven, Running Point season one, eight, The

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<v Speaker 2>Walking Dead, Dead City Season one nine, Zero Day Limited series.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good. I watched that. Ten Beauty and Black

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<v Speaker 2>season one. What did I not mention? Let me click

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<v Speaker 2>on trending. Maybe it's trending my source here, Netflix dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting from them. Let's see, they have not updated

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<v Speaker 2>their page since March thirteenth. I can't help you, John,

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<v Speaker 2>I've now clicked on what to watch. They want us

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<v Speaker 2>to watch five chilling Stephen King adaptations you can stream

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<v Speaker 2>right now. This page hasn't been updated since March twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna click on shows. My source Netflix dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>updated yesterday, meaning Wednesday, at eleven eleven am. Million Dollar Secret.

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<v Speaker 2>What to know about the players in their twisty new

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<v Speaker 2>game Popular Now Adolescens, Temptation Island, the residents? What am

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<v Speaker 2>I not mentioning? What word have I not said? That's right, listener, Mullaney,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not said the word mullaney. There's no buzz

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<v Speaker 2>on this thing, even on Netflix's own site. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to make of it. I not here to

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<v Speaker 2>bash John. You'll hear me talk with Jason Ziddaman from

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times on Sunday's episode. I have some

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts about the show, but it's not working right now,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Pete Davidson was the guest this week, and

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<v Speaker 2>since it's Pete Davison, you have to ask him about

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<v Speaker 2>his dating history. Lunel was on the cat Shore whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they have on Malleniy's show and says, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know the mistique. To me, you're just an average guy,

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<v Speaker 2>regular guy, but you continuously pull all these bad B words, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't get it. I want to know the mistique.

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<v Speaker 2>What I think for the researching for women across America

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<v Speaker 2>is you should take me out. Pete said, if that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it takes to stop this, yeah, Mulaniy jumps in,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to move off Pete's personal life. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if that was disgusted in advance. Lunelle said, I

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<v Speaker 2>people want to know what is the mistike. Pete said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Lunell, like, you're super fun, You're a

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<v Speaker 2>question of burrent Lyny mulaney jumps in, he has a

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<v Speaker 2>real mystique. You have a real electricity to you. Mlaniey

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<v Speaker 2>argued that Pete Davidson is a wonderful guy, probably to

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know. I want to say right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sleep with you, I think, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to go out. Pete said, Okay, that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds fair. Maybe I will put eyes on that one now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued. An update from yesterday's lead story. Remember I

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<v Speaker 2>tells you that the show was stopped at the Melbourne

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<v Speaker 2>Comedy Fee Festival. Nothing funny here a man died during

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<v Speaker 2>the show. The man was in the back of the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Other members of the crowd attempted to give him emergency

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<v Speaker 2>care for about ten minutes before paramedics arrived. One audience

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<v Speaker 2>The audience member said people started leaving on their own

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<v Speaker 2>accord by groups in the second act, particularly as CBR

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<v Speaker 2>He could hear defibllerator sounds from across the room. Lighting

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<v Speaker 2>lady and man were interchanging doing chess compressions.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard Business School. Really, hmmm, who knew about this? And

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing with Ben Affleck five ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Nikki?

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<v Speaker 2>mark yes, and like he never got back. Nicki also

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<v Speaker 2>told Gwyneth about Andrew Garfield saying no to her on Raya,

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<v Speaker 2>you're hotter. It's a sad fact of life. And everyone goes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so sad. What do you love the way you

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Illustrated spoke to Jerry Seinfeld about the Mets. Yes

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball season is back. S I mentioned some comedians known

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<v Speaker 2>I was curious, why so comedians are Mets fans. Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot to get to, all right, So that

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend. I want to celebrate the life of Mitch Hedberg,

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<v Speaker 2>who passed away twenty years ago this weekend on Tomorrow's show.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Siegel is an Emmy Award winning filmmaker. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>director of an upcoming documentary about Mitch Hedberg. So tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>is just Jeff and I talking about Mitch Hedburg. Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>Times will stop by. We already recorded this on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>third segment if you're in the Facebook group and feel

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever it was, I love you for writing this, wrote

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate anyone who tries to get past my bouncers who

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk to somebody who had actually seen

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just fly through here with the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that can't wait. From TMZ. Comedian Mike Laser got heckled

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend in Rhode Island is the Lil Rody Laugh Riots.

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<v Speaker 2>and other things comedy. We're now on to the port

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<v Speaker 2>of the weekend where we're going to celebrate the life

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<v Speaker 2>of Mitch Hedburg. I never got to see Mitch live,

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<v Speaker 2>I might have met him early in the serious days.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually remember, because it was one of those

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<v Speaker 2>But I never actually saw him live. But you did,

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<v Speaker 2>what was that like? How did you see him? Did

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<v Speaker 3>I was familiar with him. I've always been a complete

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<v Speaker 1>So I was familiar with him.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw him under probably just about the worst circumstances

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<v Speaker 3>terribly in the retelling, but that was the one that

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<v Speaker 3>had me giggling days later and repeating it. Here we

413
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<v Speaker 3>are twenty five years later, and that's the one that

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<v Speaker 3>I still remember.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was great.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so different from everybody else that you see

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<v Speaker 3>people compare him to Steven Wright, and then you see

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<v Speaker 3>other people coming up who have a Hedburg vibe to him.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was just such a one of a kind

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<v Speaker 3>comic that you just generally don't see these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having trouble imagining him in an eighty thousand seed arena,

422
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<v Speaker 2>just because of so much of his act was about

423
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<v Speaker 2>pacing and vibe, and I'm imagining drunks yelling out and

424
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<v Speaker 2>it's just not working. But you're saying he crushed.

425
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<v Speaker 1>He crushed.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as I was concerned, I was sitting close

427
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<v Speaker 3>so I could actually absorb it the people in the back,

428
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<v Speaker 3>and I sat in the back when Cosby was there,

429
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<v Speaker 3>and it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he came up, did his thing.

431
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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like And it's funny because you listen to

432
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<v Speaker 3>podcasts and people will talk about I know, Dank Harvey

433
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<v Speaker 3>played Gator Grawl in like two thousand and nine, and

434
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<v Speaker 3>he was saying that it was the toughest atmosphere he

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<v Speaker 3>ever played. It's just because it's so big, and like

436
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<v Speaker 3>you said, people are screaming out random crap throughout the time,

437
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<v Speaker 3>so it's it would be very easy to throw someone off.

438
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<v Speaker 3>I remember Dial Hugley was thrown off considerably when he

439
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<v Speaker 3>went up there. He seemed in a rush to get

440
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<v Speaker 3>off as quickly as possible. But Panett and Hedberg were

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<v Speaker 3>quite good in that particular setting.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Brewery talking about gator grawl, but at that

443
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<v Speaker 2>time his closer was his ACDC bit, which is him

444
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<v Speaker 2>singing ACDC with a band behind him. So you do

445
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<v Speaker 2>that in an eighty thousand seed arena, Yeah, that's really

446
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<v Speaker 2>gonna work well as opposed to just Mitch doing one

447
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<v Speaker 2>liners and waiting for the laughs. Just what a tough

448
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<v Speaker 2>room for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wish I'd had the chance to see him

450
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<v Speaker 3>in a club. I don't even know if he was

451
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<v Speaker 3>doing theaters at the time that he died. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>something recently on him where Chad Daniels was talking about

453
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<v Speaker 3>opening for him early in his career. Daniels has a

454
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<v Speaker 3>great story about one of the jokes that he used

455
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<v Speaker 3>was something that Daniels had said to him in a diner,

456
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<v Speaker 3>you know what I like mashed potatoes, and he goes,

457
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<v Speaker 3>you didn't even a chance to guess, or something something

458
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<v Speaker 3>along those lines, a joke that obviously Hedburg and Crush

459
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<v Speaker 3>when told the way he would do the jokes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel fortunate that I saw him. There's

461
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<v Speaker 3>so many other greats that I either never saw live

462
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<v Speaker 3>or I only saw them in situations like the Seller

463
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<v Speaker 3>where they're doing fifteen minutes of practice or just working

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<v Speaker 3>stuff out, because I saw Patrice and Giraldo that way,

465
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<v Speaker 3>but I never saw them in a real setting where

466
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<v Speaker 3>they're actually doing an hour or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>I feel fortunate that I was able to see Heberg

468
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<v Speaker 3>at all, but I would have done anything to have

469
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<v Speaker 3>been able to see him in a club.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking about him a lot lately, especially in

472
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<v Speaker 2>the adjacent say it. I'm trying to avoid the word

473
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<v Speaker 2>shadow of Stephen Wright, and I think as I compare

474
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<v Speaker 2>the two, and clearly there are similarities. Steven is presenting

475
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<v Speaker 2>to the audience, whereas I feel Mitch was in it

476
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<v Speaker 2>with the audience and we're all laughing at these jokes together,

477
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<v Speaker 2>where Steven is just going, here's a thought, you laugh, now,

478
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<v Speaker 2>here's a thought you laugh. Now, Mitch is like riding

479
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<v Speaker 2>the surfboard and they'll do a bust a joke and

480
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<v Speaker 2>get halfway through and be like, ah, that didn't work,

481
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<v Speaker 2>and it's just it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>As weird as Heedburgh was. I think people could relate

483
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<v Speaker 3>to him a lot more than they could relate to

484
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<v Speaker 3>Stephen Wright. And I love Stephen Wright.

485
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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a genius.

486
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<v Speaker 3>But Heedberg reminds people of somebody they know just where

487
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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stone guy who lived in your dorm

488
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<v Speaker 3>or something along those lines.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Obviously not as funny as Hedberg was.

490
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<v Speaker 3>But I think people could relate to him a little

491
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<v Speaker 3>better than some of the others who he's compared to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do wonder twenty years on what would Mitch

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<v Speaker 2>Hedberg in twenty twenty five be. Is he still doing

494
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<v Speaker 2>the stoner act one liners? Is he twenty years older

495
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<v Speaker 2>and doing longer chunks? Like the stylized comedians tend to

496
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<v Speaker 2>be shooting stars and the brick wall comedians are the

497
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<v Speaker 2>ones that tend to have the longer careers. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if he might have been Oh yeah, that guy

499
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<v Speaker 2>from ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when was the last time Stephen Wright did anything?

501
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<v Speaker 3>It's and again I'm not saying he's not still capable,

502
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<v Speaker 3>but I've honestly never if he's touring. I've missed it

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<v Speaker 3>over the last twenty years because I would see him

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<v Speaker 3>in a heartbeat if he came anywhere anywhere close to

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<v Speaker 3>where I live. But I'll hear him on He'll show

506
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<v Speaker 3>up on certain podcasts. I think he's done Greg Fitzimmons'

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<v Speaker 3>podcast a couple times, and there are a few other

508
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<v Speaker 3>guys who he I think he did Jay Moore's podcast

509
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<v Speaker 3>several years ago, but you generally don't hear much from

510
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<v Speaker 3>the guy at all. Like you said, it's the twenty

511
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<v Speaker 3>years later, it's hard to imagine he would have been able.

512
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<v Speaker 1>To sustain that for that period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wish we would have had the chance to

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<v Speaker 3>find out, just because you hate to see somebody be

515
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<v Speaker 3>taken away from us who is very much in his

516
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<v Speaker 3>prime at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So on Steven, I've been hosting the weekly comedy thing

518
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<v Speaker 2>on Live one for ten years now. Somewhere in that

519
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<v Speaker 2>ten year run he did release a second album. He

520
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<v Speaker 2>has two, and I did see him in person. It's

521
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<v Speaker 2>got to be twenty years ago now, maybe fifteen. And

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I love Stephen Wright, his pacing, my

523
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<v Speaker 2>brain was getting numb after an hour, like I needed

524
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<v Speaker 2>the show to end. I couldn't take it anymore. I

525
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<v Speaker 2>think Steven Wright's material works better in eight minute doses

526
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<v Speaker 2>than an hour. As for Mitch, part of what we

527
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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to see was he was very much in

528
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<v Speaker 2>ascendency and we were starting to get into rock star Mitch,

529
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<v Speaker 2>meaning that crowds were just rabbit about him. And Lynn

530
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<v Speaker 2>Shawcroft had talked to me about how he had to

531
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<v Speaker 2>speed up his act at the end and it was

532
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<v Speaker 2>throwing off the timing. So it'd be curious to see

533
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<v Speaker 2>what peak Mitch would have been like and how the

534
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<v Speaker 2>act would have morphed during that period.

535
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<v Speaker 3>It's like, obviously they're not similar comics, but the guys

536
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<v Speaker 3>who rely on the quick, one liner, quick hits kind

537
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<v Speaker 3>jessel Nick, And obviously I know jessel Nick is not

538
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<v Speaker 3>a similar comic to Stephen Wright or Hedbird, but it's

539
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<v Speaker 3>kind of the line, punchline, quick hit stuff that's a

540
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<v Speaker 3>lot harder to sustain than the storytelling that I think

541
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<v Speaker 3>Kreischer and Sigura and so many of the others are

542
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<v Speaker 3>doing these days. I saw Shane Gillis a couple weeks ago,

543
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<v Speaker 3>and his was very story based. I would think, while

544
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<v Speaker 3>it's not unthinkable to imagine that somebody would be able

545
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<v Speaker 3>to do that for an additional twenty years. I think

546
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<v Speaker 3>it would be a lot harder than just saying, oh, hey,

547
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<v Speaker 3>this happened to me last year, and here's the comic

548
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<v Speaker 3>version of it.

549
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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing the mental exercise of Mitch having to feed

550
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<v Speaker 2>the modern social media beast. And I could argue it

551
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<v Speaker 2>either way. On the one hand, I don't think of

552
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<v Speaker 2>him as a crowd work comedian. But on the other hand,

553
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<v Speaker 2>if you've got the crowd behind you, he could just

554
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to just do an innocent slam of

555
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<v Speaker 2>you here. He could be like, of course, because you're

556
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<v Speaker 2>wearing a baseball cap, and if the crowd's behind you,

557
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<v Speaker 2>as stupid as my baseball cap line is, if the

558
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<v Speaker 2>crowds line you and that gets a laugh, the room

559
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<v Speaker 2>is hey yeah baseball cap guy. Yeah, like we got him. Good.

560
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people like that who, like you see the

562
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<v Speaker 3>ones who do the crowd work really well. I don't

563
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<v Speaker 3>see Hegberg obviously getting to the level where he is,

564
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<v Speaker 3>because guys aren't doing crowd work in theaters and you

565
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<v Speaker 3>would like to at least think that he's not doing

566
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<v Speaker 3>the tiny clubs and if it can still come up

567
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<v Speaker 3>with the one liners that he did from twenty years ago,

568
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<v Speaker 3>then he might have been able to sustain it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be really interesting to have somebody who was

570
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<v Speaker 3>like that to have the longevity that only the top

571
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<v Speaker 3>guys really truly do, at least from a standpoint of

572
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<v Speaker 3>not going from stadiums to theaters, to arenas to.

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<v Speaker 1>The chuckle hut. Yeah, it would have been interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see what would have happened with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got you. Let's talk about some other things.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one of the moderators of the Facebook group, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Daily Comedy News podcast group. Thank you for keeping

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<v Speaker 2>the porn bots away and for starting conversations regularly. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that at this point you absolutely watch more comedy

580
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<v Speaker 2>specials than I do. There was a point, I think

581
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<v Speaker 2>it was last week or the week before, where some

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<v Speaker 2>thing relatively major came out and it was like nine am,

583
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<v Speaker 2>and you hadn't commented on it yet, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he's okay. Usually he would have watched this, but.

585
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<v Speaker 3>I was visiting my kid in college two weeks ago,

586
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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't see Bill Burr until like a week

587
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<v Speaker 3>after it came out. For me, I've already Chelsea Handler

588
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<v Speaker 3>came out at two am. This morning and I've already

589
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<v Speaker 3>watched it. I that's my background where it's like I'm working,

590
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<v Speaker 3>I have it on.

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<v Speaker 1>I love specials, even bad ones. I'll trudge through.

592
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<v Speaker 3>I do listen at one and a half time speed

593
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<v Speaker 3>to be able to do something in forty five minutes.

594
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<v Speaker 1>Rather than an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you have the issue of getting through. Sometimes

596
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<v Speaker 3>it's like you're ten minutes in and be like, okay,

597
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<v Speaker 3>I feel nothing. I felt the same way you did

598
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<v Speaker 3>about the Burr special, where twenty minutes in I was like,

599
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<v Speaker 3>this sucks, and then after watching the whole thing, I

600
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<v Speaker 3>was like, it wasn't horrific, but it was clearly as

601
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<v Speaker 3>probably as worst special as he's put out. Granted that's

602
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<v Speaker 3>a high bar, but yet I've always been thankfully. My

603
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<v Speaker 3>wife is a as a trooper. I drag her to

604
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<v Speaker 3>comedy shows constantly, where sometimes it's gonna be like, all right,

605
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<v Speaker 3>you're going to this one, and then there are a

606
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<v Speaker 3>couple other words, Yeah, this one's a little probably dirtier

607
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<v Speaker 3>than you would care for.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's a trooper with that.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't get great shows around here, but we have

610
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<v Speaker 3>been pretty lucky up in Green Bay, getting Gatsy and

611
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<v Speaker 3>Sebastian and Mark Norman is coming here in a couple months,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've seen Gillis twice in the last year. We've

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<v Speaker 3>been pretty lucky as far as that goes. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I love the Facebook group. I love the site, and

615
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<v Speaker 3>it feels the need that I hadn't found elsewhere. I

616
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<v Speaker 3>had been looking for something where they're constant updates. I

617
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<v Speaker 3>listened to the podcast first thing every morning, so it's

618
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<v Speaker 3>the perfect way to start today. So I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks so much. A couple things you mentioned made

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<v Speaker 2>me think of Jason Zinneman and getting to know Jason

622
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<v Speaker 2>from The New York Times a little bit. Has it

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<v Speaker 2>really helped me in some ways because one a lot

624
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<v Speaker 2>of the issues where we talked about where I'll get

625
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes in with special and bail, that's on me,

626
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.079
<v Speaker 2>that's not on the performer. As I analyze this, I

627
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<v Speaker 2>can understand comedians can go up and crush for a crowd.

628
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 2>But I'm admittedly a comedy snob because I've spent so

629
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<v Speaker 2>much time listening to so much of it, and especially

630
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<v Speaker 2>the years programming the radio stations, you know, listening to

631
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>everybody's a material and the version of their a material

632
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<v Speaker 2>that they chose to release on a comedy album. It

633
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<v Speaker 2>fried my brains. So now if I get ten to

634
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<v Speaker 2>eleven minutes into something and I'm not feeling it, there's

635
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 2>ten trillion things to do. When I grew up reasons

636
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I love baseball, there were five channels and the Mets

637
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>were on every night, So I watch the Mets every night.

638
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Now I've got infinite media. If I get bored, there's

639
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred hours of Star Trek I can watch. So

640
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>if your comedy special is not crushing it, I'm just

641
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>out and do I profile specials. Of course I do.

642
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 2>There's not enough times talking to Jason and hearing him

643
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<v Speaker 2>having also what I call Emperor of Rome syndrome, where

644
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you just sit there and go, oh that's very funny,

645
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>great callback, Yes that is hilarious. Oh what a whitecrafted bit,

646
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>but not laughing. That has been helpful to me. And

647
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>then also for imposter syndrome. I was listening to Marin

648
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>last night, both the Nick Fune and the it was

649
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the other one whatever, and they're all name dropping comedians

650
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and their clubs and talking about when they're hanging out

651
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>in Malaney twenty years ago and I'm like a fraud.

652
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 2>But then Jason reminds me I'm not a comedian. I'm

653
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<v Speaker 2>not trying to be a comedian. I'm just like a fan,

654
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>just like you are. I just chose to pick up

655
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<v Speaker 2>the microphone and start talking about it. Chris Fleming, that

656
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>was the other one. And it's more me than the performers.

657
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>The performers are getting up, they've sold tickets, they have

658
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>to crush here. But when I'm watching a Netflix special,

659
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I could just really quickly be like, what else is

660
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>there to do?

661
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those where it's yeah, and I think

662
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<v Speaker 3>I threw this out there in the group. It was like,

663
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<v Speaker 3>what was the lastly truly great special? And I'm talking,

664
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<v Speaker 3>you know, like because when people like, what are the

665
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<v Speaker 3>best ones of all time?

666
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, there are a couple of Carlins that

667
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I could list.

668
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Delirious obviously some I'm a prior's prior probably has three

669
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<v Speaker 3>that Chappelle's killing them. Softly is when people are saying, oh,

670
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<v Speaker 3>that Chappelle's best special of any of the ones that

671
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 3>have come out in the last five years, and you're

672
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.799
<v Speaker 3>not even close just where So.

673
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like I feel very much like a snob as well.

674
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 3>When the stuff is put up there, it's I haven't

675
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 3>seen anything that's on the line of bigger and blacker

676
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 3>or killing them softly or what am I doing in

677
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 3>New Jersey or a here and now, anything along those lines.

678
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 3>The one that I remember where I was like texting

679
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>my friends saying, you have to see this was gillis

680
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Is Live in Austin.

681
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Just because that one absolutely destroyed me. I was laughing

682
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 1>so hard.

683
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 3>And even then, do I put that on the level

684
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 3>of Bigger and Blacker or Chappelle's best?

685
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<v Speaker 1>No? Absolutely not.

686
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>As much as I loved Ronnie Chang last year, as

687
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 3>much as I enjoyed I know you didn't like Schultz

688
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>as much as I did. Even like the Ari Shafir

689
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 3>won from this year. I thoroughly enjoyed roy Wood.

690
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Same thing. Are they all time greats? No, they're not.

691
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 1>They're good. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

692
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I want to see something that blows me away,

693
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 3>and I haven't seen anything like that.

694
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think only four or five years.

695
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we're all chasing the drug that is the

696
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 2>laugh that like really good belly laughed chuckle. And I've

697
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>talked about this on the show and in the group,

698
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not getting any pushback. I think people are

699
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>nodding an agreement that right now we're getting the same

700
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>face as doing the same specials. So yeah, we know

701
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>what Bil Burr is gonna do. We know what Bert

702
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Krascher and I like Burt's special. We know what Birt's

703
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna do if Sigora drops, we know what Sigora is

704
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 2>going to do. When you mentioned the last great special,

705
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>what came to my mind was Natalie Palomides Nate, which

706
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>was just different and out there. And I tend to

707
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>like the alty stuff a little bit, but that one

708
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>was one where I watched it I was like, oh wow,

709
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 2>that was different, and I evangelized for it.

710
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even seen that one. I'm gonna have to

711
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 1>check that out right away.

712
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 3>I fully respect your opinion on it, and yeah, I

713
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 3>love ones that are interesting because it's all go searching

714
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 3>for stuff where it's okay, this isn't I'm not the

715
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 3>target audience here, but I still want to see Hannah

716
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Einbinder's One woman Show would have been one of my

717
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>favorite things that I saw last year. I would have

718
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.119
<v Speaker 3>told you were crazy, but that was one that I

719
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 3>couldn't get out of my head after watching it. So

720
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>it's I'll go watch stuff even intentionally be like, all right,

721
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:48.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably gonna hate this, but I don't like criticizing

722
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 3>something unless I've seen it where it's like uh oh.

723
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Earlier this year I watched that was at Chelsea. There

724
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 3>was some redneck special. It's the one I have Lois rated.

725
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I actually gave it an f was like Pontoon something.

726
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 3>It was like, okay, it was just too painful for

727
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 3>anybody to sit through. And this Stefano, who I generally like,

728
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 3>his special was horrific. I mean that thing that was

729
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 3>an embarrassment. Did you ever watch Gringo Poppy by Brendan

730
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 3>shab and they bring it up on Rogan or Tim

731
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Dillon brings it up a lot on his podcast. Is

732
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 3>probably like one of the worst comedy specials actually put

733
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 3>out on a I think it was a show.

734
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a Showtime or.

735
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Amazon Prime or something like that, but it's one of

736
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 3>those ones you watch and you're just like Hugh and

737
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I think the Stefano's was probably worse. Yeah, that's when

738
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.279
<v Speaker 3>you're I can't even believe Hulu put this out, but

739
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 3>occasionally you see stuff like that.

740
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>So what's your top specials of the year so far?

741
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I have schult Swan roy Wood, I think I have second,

742
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Ari Shaffir third, and then I have Kelsey Cook fourth

743
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 3>and Bert fifth. I was thrilled that you liked the

744
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Burt one because I'm biased. I sat next to Bert

745
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 3>on an airplane like twenty years ago when he was

746
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>early in his career, and we talked like we were

747
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 3>best for three hours, and so I always feel like

748
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm biased. But I'm never gonna sit here and say, oh,

749
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 3>He's the greatest comic of all time. But he brings

750
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>out the giggle factor with me, which is not easy

751
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 3>to do and just where you're like okay, and I

752
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 3>don't consider him like the lowest common denominator comic, but

753
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 3>I will laugh at stuff and I'm like, oh mad,

754
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I'm laughing at this.

755
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 1>He just does it for me, and I think it's

756
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>very genuine with him, and I love the stories about it.

757
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.920
<v Speaker 3>My kids are similar ages to his kids, so I

758
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 3>can relate to a little bit of that. Even though

759
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 3>he has daughters, I have sons. But I just genuinely

760
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 3>like the guy. I was thrilled that his latest special

761
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 3>is getting I think people are basically saying it's probably

762
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>his best special, which I think it probably is.

763
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've just found it fun now. It definitely spoke

764
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>to me also, a fifty something married dad, So I

765
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>have that connectivity there, and I think, again the Emperor

766
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>of Rome, I can break down comedy and I can

767
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>see the matrix and what Burke did there was thing

768
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 2>that actually happened, exaggerated for effect it step two you

769
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>really ramp it up and go over the top, and

770
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<v Speaker 2>then maybe the tag is something that didn't actually happen.

771
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>But the basic premise there, you know, as a married

772
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>man in the fifties, got what he was talking about,

773
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>even if he told an exaggerated version of it, right,

774
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it was colorful, even if some of the details weren't real.

775
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>The basic premise spoke to me. And I think that's

776
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 2>why I connected with that special and found it very,

777
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>very entertaining.

778
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I find him genuine and like you said, obviously I'm

779
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 3>not going to sit here and say, Okay, this.

780
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Is exactly how it happened. I'm not that naive.

781
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>But there are other ones where you watch and you're like, Okay,

782
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>there's no way in how that happened.

783
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>And with Bert, I.

784
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Have no problem with something being exaggerated for comic effect.

785
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 3>I have no problem with people making up stories. But

786
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 3>I know there's that fine line the has simonaj line.

787
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 3>And I like Hassan, but I thought the criticism of

788
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 3>him was over the top a few years ago. But

789
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 3>at the same time, I don't know, I get it

790
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 3>on some level, But yeah, I love Bert. I took

791
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 3>my whole family to see him a couple of years

792
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 3>ago and they all walked out of there. That was

793
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 3>a fun show. Where again, nobody's gonna say he's the

794
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 3>greatest comic of our era, but that was a fun,

795
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 3>fun show.

796
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.679
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes that's all you can realistically hope for.

797
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll ask you one more than I'll let you go.

798
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 2>If I had a golden ticket, I can get you

799
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 2>a seventh throw center for any living comedian. Who do

800
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>you want to go see?

801
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Mullany? No question?

802
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>Really, Yeah, I've seen most of them, even at granted

803
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I only saw at the Cellar. Actually I've never seen Rock,

804
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.159
<v Speaker 3>but I would rather see Malani right now than Rock.

805
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Trying to think of the other big ones who I

806
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen.

807
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I saw Chappelle when he was working out, killing him softly,

808
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>so I've not seen him recently. I've seen Sigura, I've

809
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 3>seen Burt multiple times. I've seen Gillis multiple times. Mulaney

810
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>was here three years ago, like right after COVID, and

811
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't there was a reason why we couldn't go.

812
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 3>But I've been kicking myself since then, especially since he's

813
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 3>only blown up. This is the one that he was

814
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>like straight out of rehab, and I loved his last special,

815
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 3>especially like when he I've not seen his TV show yet.

816
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 3>I watched almost other than sports, I watch nothing live.

817
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll go back and watch. I've heard it's not very good.

818
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that was just from listening to

819
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 3>your podcast. Yeah, I know other people who are huge

820
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Mulleney fans who are like, just doesn't do it for me.

821
00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I think I would like to see him in a

822
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 3>regular late night structure. I would love to see him

823
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.360
<v Speaker 3>take over for Kimmel retires or any of these guys

824
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 3>walk away. Like to see him even if it's in

825
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 3>a standard network format.

826
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he could play to that.

827
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 3>But it honestly blows my mind that, in my opinion,

828
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 3>the best current touring comic couldn't even get on air

829
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 3>it on SML during his time there, because he was

830
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 3>by far the best writer they had. Yeah, he's the

831
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 3>one who I would do anything to see at this point,

832
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>because not so much that there aren't others that are great.

833
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 3>But I've seen Seinfeld, I've seen Burr, I've seen Jim Jefferies,

834
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 3>I've seen Jim Norton.

835
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 1>All of the ones who.

836
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying are currently great have been great at

837
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 3>some point. And Mulanie's the one who I've not seen.

838
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 2>You're smart about Mulaney. In my career, thirty years in

839
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>a media now thirty five maybe something like that. When

840
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>in doubt, you put a format on something, when something's

841
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>not working, you put a structure on it. You put

842
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>a gimmick, you go, okay, we're going to do five

843
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>questions with Dylan and you just that way. There's a

844
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>structure to it. If you analyze even my Dopey show,

845
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a structure to it. I usually put the eight

846
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>comedians in the front and as we get back towards

847
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the end, Now I'm talking about something happened at a

848
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Mumbai comedy club. That's not going to lead. There's a

849
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 2>structure to it, and I think you're right that if

850
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Mulany were actually put in a box, it would be stronger.

851
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I think they've leaned a little too much into the chaos.

852
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>You've heard me talk with Mike Chisen about Letterman that

853
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 2>as uncontrolled as it seemed, it was controlled, and David

854
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't like surprises. He just presented it as chaos. I

855
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>think what we're seeing with Mulaney, especially in those caller segments,

856
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 2>which absolutely have to go, it's actually chaos and not

857
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>working well.

858
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.519
<v Speaker 3>You don't want a radio show type thing. It's television.

859
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 3>You're watching it. Even as someone who listened to Stern

860
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>for twenty five years, as soon as you would go

861
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 3>to the phones, I'd be like.

862
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 1>All right, what else is on?

863
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Just where I don't need to have some idiot call

864
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 3>up and ask Artie why he's so fat or something

865
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like that.

866
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, seeing.

867
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Him in Okay, you're gonna come out, you're gonna do

868
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 3>a monologue, You're gonna do this. And I wonder if

869
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Mulaney would find that to be too boring. But it

870
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 3>worked at the Daily Show, It worked at every place.

871
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 3>That's done it, and he's a better comic than any

872
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.599
<v Speaker 3>of the ones who are doing late night right now,

873
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and I like quite a few of them, but there's

874
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>nobody out there now who.

875
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need to watch every night.

876
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I do make a point of listening to the podcast

877
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 3>version of The Daily Show, especially when Stewart's doing it

878
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 3>on Monday night, because I do still think he's probably

879
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 3>the best out.

880
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>There now that Conan's not doing it anymore.

881
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Kimmel lost me a couple of years ago, and I

882
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>was the biggest Kimmel fan for ages and it's not

883
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 3>a politics thing.

884
00:39:58.760 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I could really.

885
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Cares to any of these people's support, but it's just

886
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>not as funny anymore. And like Seth Meyers, his Corrections

887
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 3>podcast is my favorite thing that he does. It just

888
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 3>absolutely kills me. I listen to that every week. That's fantastic.

889
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I would love to see what Melanie could

890
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 3>do in a Kimmel type format.

891
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>He nailed it with Howard, even Pete Howard, there was

892
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a structure. Six o'clock hour was the Hey, what everybody

893
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 2>do last night? Just yes and maybe talk about office politics.

894
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Seven o'clock get the extended family in here, make fun

895
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of the interns, make fun of the boss. Eight o'clock

896
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was the guest. Nine o'clock was the news. There was

897
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a format, same thing every day.

898
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it was yeah.

899
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was funny because I grew up in California.

900
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 3>One of my high school friends, his brother was going

901
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 3>to school in NYU, and he would mail back audio.

902
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Cassettes of Stern each week. You got to hear this

903
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 1>guy and my friends.

904
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:49.599
<v Speaker 3>That was funny, and I'm like, yeah, give me the tape.

905
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 3>So he'd give me the tape. I had my dual

906
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 3>cassette recorder. I would record my own copy and I

907
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 3>would listen to it over and over again until the

908
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 3>next tape came. I was hooked on that until the

909
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 3>show started to suck. I listened to Anthony a lot.

910
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I never really got into some of the other stuff.

911
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>But yet, like Opie and Anthony, I thought showcased comics

912
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>better than Stern ever did. Sure, and there really weren't

913
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 3>that many comics that or I should say big comics

914
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 3>that were showcased or became big because they.

915
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Were on Stern.

916
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I know Dapala was on a lot and Kennison was

917
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>on a lot early on, but I don't think it's

918
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 3>accurate to say that they became famous from being on Stern.

919
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>While there's a long list of comics that you could say,

920
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but they went next level because of going on Opie

921
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and Anthony the same way a lot of these comics

922
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have gone to the next level by going on Rogan

923
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 1>these days where where I mean.

924
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Like Ari was the one who I always thought he'll

925
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.639
<v Speaker 3>never graduate to theaters because he's too controversial.

926
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Even he's gotten to that level. You see where Gillis was.

927
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Two years ago and where he is now, and I

928
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of that is due to one, he's fantastic.

929
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Two going on Rogan almost once a month definitely helps him.

930
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Doing the protect our Parks has shot him to the

931
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>next level.

932
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.159
<v Speaker 3>Mark Norman, who is pretty dirty for to go to

933
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 3>the theater level, I'm seeing him in the theater in

934
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>two months. I think he's a genius too. It just

935
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 3>absolutely destroys me. I think he's another one who I

936
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 3>think is one of the best working. Simmarill is another

937
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 3>one who I have not seen who I would really

938
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 3>love to see but haven't.

939
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Had a chance yet.

940
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 3>If he comes to Wisconsin, he only goes to Milwaukee.

941
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 3>If he came up here, I would go see him

942
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 3>in a heartbeat.

943
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I think all the guys you mentioned we're just seeing

944
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the pushback, not even about Cancel culture PC culture. I

945
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>just think everybody has taken a step back towards.

946
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what.

947
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>We're all friends, and we make fun of each other.

948
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 2>And if you and I hung out every day, I've

949
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>got quirks, You've got your quirks with bunch each other's

950
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 2>chops about it. That's what's friends do. And I think

951
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that's coming across in a lot of the comedians you

952
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned that it's dude, we're just out having a

953
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 2>good time. Don't analyze every sentence that said. And sometimes

954
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 2>a joke is just a joke.

955
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really unfortunate that.

956
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:49.800
<v Speaker 3>It's one thing when somebody comes out and says something

957
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 3>really stupid and then they apologize for it a day

958
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 3>later or something like that. It's another thing when you're

959
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 3>pulling stuff from twenty thirty years ago and saying, oh

960
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>my god, Jimmy Kimmel did blackface, but Jimmy Fallon did. Okay,

961
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 3>if you want to say, hey, I regret doing this

962
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago, fine, I get it. But even some

963
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 3>of the comics who consider themselves woke these days. And

964
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I don't mean this as like a knock,

965
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 3>but Sarah Silverman or pat Oswalter, some of these people,

966
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>they're like, yeah, if you listen to my stuff from

967
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five years ago, I use all the words

968
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:21.239
<v Speaker 3>that we're not allowed to say anymore.

969
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like everything changes.

970
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 3>But I think we're seeing less and less of that

971
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 3>considering the show I just saw where it was because

972
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I saw Gillis when I was in Colorado and Big

973
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Jay was there.

974
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Although Big Jay, who I generally loved, was horrible. He

975
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was just clearly up there basically like sleepwalking through it.

976
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>But Dan Soder was tremendous and the other guy, and

977
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.400
<v Speaker 3>they were talking about cancel culture where they're saying, this

978
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 3>word's coming back, this word we probably won't hear again.

979
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>You can imagine which one that one was.

980
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 3>But you're basically saying this word's coming back, this word's

981
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 3>coming back, and it's yeah, it's like just because of

982
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 3>the way it's And again I'm not saying it's okay

983
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.639
<v Speaker 3>to use. I try to avoid using the same words

984
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 3>in my when my daily life obviously, but I don't

985
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>cancel culture on any level because it's Look, if.

986
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't think something's funny, don't watch it. The same

987
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 1>thing that is the same criticism with Stern.

988
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Hey, if you don't, if you're offended by what he says,

989
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 3>change the channel. I changed the channel on Stern because

990
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 3>I thought I didn't like.

991
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:15.599
<v Speaker 1>The direction he was going.

992
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to sit here and say should be

993
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>taken off the air, because if he still has an audience,

994
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 3>then he should be allowed to address that audience.

995
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've written on my substack about it. I'm not

996
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 2>going to sit here and say that I didn't laugh

997
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>at a lot of things Stern did in the nineties

998
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that Stern himself has distanced himself from guilty is charged.

999
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Laughed at the most a different time.

1000
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing that I hate that he has two

1001
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 3>channels that are fully dedicated to his stuff, and all

1002
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 3>of his best stuff is gone. He doesn't even play

1003
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>the nine to eleven show anymore, which blows my mind

1004
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:47.239
<v Speaker 3>because that was something that I felt so connected to

1005
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 3>because like on the day that happened, I sat in

1006
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 3>my car and listened to it because everybody else went

1007
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 3>the news and Stern stayed on the air, and I

1008
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 3>just sat there and listened to it NonStop, and then

1009
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 3>I listened to it again that night when they replayed it,

1010
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 3>and it was so brilliant.

1011
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>And he's even distancing himself from that.

1012
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.960
<v Speaker 3>So I find that to be sad, because as somebody

1013
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 3>who loved him for so long, and again, I don't

1014
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>expect the sixty five year old to do bout bongo fiesta.

1015
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I understand people evolving, When people who had been

1016
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 3>guests on his show for twenty years, he just randomly

1017
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 3>just basically shuts the door on them, We're not having

1018
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 3>them anymore. I thought it was very sad that Gilbert

1019
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't on during his final days. The whole thing with

1020
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Arty was basically what closed my door on Stern, just

1021
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 3>like I absolutely loved Artie and thought he brought the

1022
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.599
<v Speaker 3>show to another level, but so many of these comics

1023
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 3>and people who he had on.

1024
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That he just basically ditched. That never sat well with me.

1025
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Poor I already worked with him a few times. Great

1026
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>guy in real life. But I remember we were at

1027
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the comedy festivals and I'm going back a bit,

1028
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was the Vegas one, and I said to Mark,

1029
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:58.679
<v Speaker 2>my serious host while watching Already Live, Igo, if we

1030
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>wake up tomorrow and he's dead, not going to be shocked.

1031
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>He was just out of control. He's got demon's good guy,

1032
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.440
<v Speaker 2>good soul, but boy, the demon's got him.

1033
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I saw him on one of the Stern showcases, and

1034
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 3>it was a painful show because you're sitting there watching

1035
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Richard and sal doing something that masquerades a comedy.

1036
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>And I think Yuko the Clown.

1037
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Might have been there where I'm sitting there going oh God,

1038
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 3>like if Artie wasn't coming up, I think it literally

1039
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 3>went like stuttering John d' pallo and then Arty, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, Okay, I just got to get through

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<v Speaker 3>stuttering John. I generally like stuttering John, but as long

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<v Speaker 3>as I can get through stuttering John, I'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Through to Pollo and Arti and Da Paolo is a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Arti came out, and there are comparisons to Chreischer,

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<v Speaker 3>although Kreischer obviously isn't as completely messed up as Arty is,

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<v Speaker 3>but the same thing where he came out and did

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<v Speaker 3>all his shtick, but the crowd just loved him. And

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<v Speaker 3>but like you said, if I'd woken up the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>and they said he already didn't wake up. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have been like no, shock there. It's not like Hedberg

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<v Speaker 3>where you're like no, although I did not know that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be curious to hear you. I'll be curious

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<v Speaker 3>to know if it was close to them, knew how

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<v Speaker 3>bad his drug habit was. I get the sense that

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<v Speaker 3>they did the same thing with Giraldo, And obviously nobody

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<v Speaker 3>was stunned when Patrice died, but I still didn't make

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<v Speaker 3>it any less sad, just because you always hate seeing

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<v Speaker 3>these comic geniuses taken from us too soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it happens to so many. All Right, ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago, I asked you one last question, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to let you go. You won't have to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this episode because you already know what we said.

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<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate you. Thank you for taking care of

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<v Speaker 2>the Facebook group as one of the moderators. Appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>coming on. I think we'll have you back. Just I

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<v Speaker 2>like talking to comedy and talking about comedy with people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fun to just drop one of these in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I appreciate everything you do. I'd been looking for

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<v Speaker 3>something like it for a long time. When I stumbled

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<v Speaker 3>on it, I was like, this is exactly what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>You do an amazing job. And I listened to a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of podcasts, so it's like, when I start my

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<v Speaker 3>day with yours, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A pretty big compliment.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, tonally try to do it as a morning show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a yellers screamer, so I think it's easy

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<v Speaker 2>on the years at seven thirty in the morning. It

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the pro designs of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It drops at the perfect time and it's the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>length for like first thing in the morning. Be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I got and I listened to double speed, so I

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<v Speaker 3>got seven and a half minutes for a perfect way.

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<v Speaker 1>To start the day.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really do go to the National Donuts chain

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<v Speaker 2>every morning. It just it tends to magically work out

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<v Speaker 2>that my drive to coffee hits. Usually I hit the

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot right as the show gets to the commercial break,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I listen to the rest on the way home.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do listen, not that I'm a narcissist. I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to see if I made a production error, because

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<v Speaker 2>every now and then I make a production error and

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<v Speaker 2>then I try and catch it before everybody else does.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I get it, and yeah, one of many shows

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<v Speaker 3>that I listen to, but it's definitely in my daily routine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long episode of Daily Comedy News Tomorrow. Jeff Siegel, documentarian,

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about his Mitch Hedberg documentary and celebrate the

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<v Speaker 2>life of Mitch Heedburg. Sunday, jason's ineman friend of the

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<v Speaker 2>show from The New York Times, We also talk Mitch Heedburg.

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<v Speaker 2>See you tomorrow.