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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of Your Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist and

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David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just as

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We love to hear from you. Molly. How are you

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holding up? How you holding up with this shutdown? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're in We're in the middle of a shutdown.

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I like situations where it's win win or what you're

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working on, And I was thinking about how for Trump

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in particular, but Republicans in general, this is a total

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win win situation. Either they were not going to have

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the government shut down by Democrats, or if they did,

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they had a whole plan of fun things to do

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once the government shuts down. Things you can permanently end

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in government only by means of shutdown. So russ Vote,

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the head of the Office of Management and Budget. I

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think he was viewing this as well, wouldn't be the

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worst thing if you shut us down, because then we

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can do other things. What are you thinking about it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I always like a shutdown. It's just it's just kabuki

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theater usually right, federal workers, non essential federal workers. Is

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government the only place where there are hundreds of thousands

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of non essential workers. I think, so they take some

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time off, they come back to back pay, and you know,

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we all go back to what we were doing. I

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think this one could be better for Republicans. So I

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was surprised to see this, I wrote, I wrote a

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column on and I found this out that there have

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been twenty one government shut down since the passage of

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the Congressional Budget Act in nineteen seven. And since you know,

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some of them are very you know, some of them

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are longer, some are very short. But never once until now,

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has there been a shutdown where the opposition party wasn't

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controlling at least one House of Congress or the White House.

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When Republicans, let's be honest, instigated shutdowns, and I thought

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for some of them were for fine reasons, others were not.

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They were they controlled either the Senate or the House

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or both. So Democrats have incredibly little leverage here. And

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you remember, through the Obama years, it was always about

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the obstructionism, and there were just one story off the

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next about how government was breaking, and all of that,

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but I think obstructionism is a legitimate tool of government

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if you're in the minority, if you want to do it.

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I just don't see what the upside here is for Democrats.

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They're not going to win. There's just no way. I mean,

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I hope that Republicans would give in, and their demand

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is that Republicans preemptively extend Obamacare subsidies that are sun

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setting that were sold at the time they were passed

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in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two as temporary

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programs to help people get through the pandemic at the time.

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So I think it's just a blame game thing. Who

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are the voters going to blame? And usually they blame Republicans.

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But I don't know. I don't know, So what are

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your feelings are?

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think Democrats are in a bit of

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a pickle. They so, as we all know, when there's

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one party that controls the government, the out party does

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very well in midterm elections, and so Democrats are expected,

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if history is any guide, they should do incredibly well

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in the midterms. The fact that it's not a foregone

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conclusion that they will do well is a little bit weird.

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It's partly related to support for Republican policies, and I

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think actually also a lot of dislike of Democrats in Congress.

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There was a poll recently showing that Democrat voters had

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rated their members of Congress extremely low relative to history,

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while Republicans, for reasons that I have no idea why,

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are rating their members of Congress fairly high. What that

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means is that you're going to be battling a lot

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of primary challenges, you know, from little guys all the

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way up to Chuck Schumer who might be facing a

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primary challenge from AOC, and so the theater is partly

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to stem that effort to oust all of the incumbents,

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and so they have to just look like they're doing

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something and this is what they've decided they want to do.

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But as you know, leverage isn't great. The issue on

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which Republicans keep pointing out is we don't want to

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actually be paying for the healthcare of criminal illegal aliens.

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It's not going to poll beautifully in a way that

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these things tend to pull better in the past. And

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then the other thing is the whole point of a

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shutdown is that you can do all sorts of silliness.

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I had a student whose mom, when they would pull

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up to a store that was closed, she would say,

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this is shut down and tighter than the Washington Monument.

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During a government shut down, you know, they would shut

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down the Washington Monument, they would shut down Yellowstone Park,

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they would stop picking up trash, and then the media

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would run these stories about the government shutdown means kids

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can't go to the Washington Monument, the trash isn't being

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picked up. But Republicans control the government right now, so

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they're not going to play those games with it. They're doing,

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like I mentioned, these other things where they're saying, well,

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if you shut down the government, we would be happy

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to revisit all sorts of authorities that are only in

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play during funding periods, and so it just doesn't I

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don't know how. I don't know if it'll go as

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well for Democrats as they have in the past.

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Speaker 1: I have three things to say about what you just said.

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One is the reason they have to shut down the

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parks and things like that is because most Americans wouldn't

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even know this was going on at all, which tells

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you a little bit about our government and how much

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we need it to be this size. I think if

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the media didn't get into hysterics over these shutdowns, most

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people wouldn't even notice. I'm not saying it doesn't affect anyone.

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There are real human beings, you know, who work there

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whose jobs might be in danger, and that's not an

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easy thing. But the government is too big. The second

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thing is there is a danger for Democrats here I

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think that Republicans dealt with, and that is you remember

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they were shutdown. I think I forget which one it was,

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or the almost shutdown where Republicans demanded that the Democrats

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like overturn Obamacare or whatever. What I'm saying is like,

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you're over promising. You have to show your base that

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you're fighting, but you're over promising them and under delivering.

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base is going to turn against the party at some point.

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And that's what I think happened to the pre Trump GOP.

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overturn Obamacare and all this stuff, and maybe most of

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them wanted to do it, but it was not going

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to be possible. And the same thing now I think

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Democrats are doing trying to appease the AOC branch of

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their party. But as a specific event, I don't believe

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these shutdowns have any real effect on the upcoming midterms.

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and contentious one. I went back, I looked at all

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the stories at the time. The Washington Post had this

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big story that said this had done major damage to

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the GOP in their future. In twenty fourteen, the GOP

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when the Senate expanded their House majority by the year

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after that, Donald Trump won the presidency. I just I

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went back to all of them. I don't think. I

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just don't think. I think Americans know this is largely

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theater motors. I don't think it's very important to them.

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you know, it's just it's something for us to do

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and talk about. But I just I think what most

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Americans just go about their day now. If the Trump

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administration actually uses this to trim government a bit, you know,

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and some of the truly non essential people in government,

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it might just be a bluff. I don't know, especially

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over Obamacare that's something we should talk about as well.

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This is about the GOP bailing out Obamacare again. Like

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we pay taxpayers pay ninety percent on the member You

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little engine these exchanges that were supposed to be engines

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of capitalism in the states, and all these the state

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competition was going to bring down prices. You know, they

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were just fabricated marketplaces. It was ridiculous to begin with.

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of those premiums, so essentially it's just a welfare program.

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hook for eighty percent of the premiums. I mean, we're

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still paying eighty percent of premiums in markets that often

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just have one company offering insurance, so there's no competition.

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I just don't see why after twenty years near not

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twenty years, but fifteen years of failure with Obamacare, we

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have to bail them out again. I hope. I think

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if for like lasting on this for me, if Republicans

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are in this fight and they're losing public opinion, I

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don't think it will matter in the long term. If

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they bend and give in on anything doing with Obamacare.

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I think that's going to hurt them a lot more politically,

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especially with their base than writing this out. There are

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already two defections from Democratic senators, I believe last night.

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So this thing I think will be over in about

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a few days or a week. So anyway, I do

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like them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a libertarian holiday for you there are.

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There is this other thing, though, which is how frustrating

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it is for a lot of normal Americans to see

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all these problems created over the course of decades of legislation,

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you know, just waste and fraud and abuse and poorly

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designed programs that exist mostly to keep certain people voting

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certain ways, and then the voters give Republicans complete and

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utter power the presidency, the Senate, the House, and the

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most they could get you is maybe to win a

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shut down battle, like where's the actual where are the

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actual wins? And if there are wins coming out of this,

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it's going to be from omb not from Congress. So

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I do think. I know you mock this idea that

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Congress is broken or how people used to say that

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during the open era, And I think the reason why

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you mock it is because it was precisely during a

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period when Congress wasn't broken that the media we're saying

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it was, you know, when they were standing up to

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some of the excesses of the Obama administration. But one

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does get the feeling that, you know, we send all

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these people to Congress and they really don't do a

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good job of there's no incentive for them to actually

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solve problems, tons of incentive for them to just go

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along with all the corruption, and then we see it

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year after year, and that is a little frustrating to me.

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Speaker 1: I guess I disagree with you. I don't think that

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they I can't think of anything problem Congress has ever solved, honestly,

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and you know, if there is a minority and they

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want to filibuster these things, that's there right as I

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like when government moves slowly. That was my problem with Obamacare,

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which I think broke American politics. I really think that

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was a pivotal event where one party steamrolled the other

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steam world half the country passed a massive reform that

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people really didn't want at the time, and abuse their

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abuse the government Obama Obama Care pass. Then Obama, you know,

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decided to institute some of the law. Other parts of

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the law he didn't like anymore. He didn't because it

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was all just such a poorly written, poorly functioning law.

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Republicans felt like, no matter what happens, they're always losing,

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no matter how many elections they win. The problem is

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that the parties are so far apart they can't compromise

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on stuff really because there's no compromise to be had.

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So this is the this is the organic result of

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people being very far apart and not having the federal

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government do things. I know it's frustrating when they're not

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doing things that we like, but I think this is

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better than having the executive or Congress steamrolling the other

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side all the time. But I don't know. I mean,

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we'll see what goes. Oh, I would say, somebody.

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Speaker 2: You were talking about how during the period when Obama

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Care was being passed or updated, there would be all

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these claims made by people about how it was going

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to work out, and then when it doesn't work out

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that way, you're the only person basically out there kind

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of pointing it out. But I'm also sick to death

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of this happening. With our media. I was talking with

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Catherine Herridge, who's I'm here at Hillsdale College right now,

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and she's out here as a visiting fellow polan fellow,

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and she was talking about national security reporting and all

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these different examples where someone with qualified national security reporting

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experience would know to call shenanigans on claims that were

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being made by different people. I mean, whether it's like,

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do you remember the Hillary Clinton server scandal, and then

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she had her people come out and say, oh, they

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weren't more aked classified or they weren't classified until later,

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it up and say, oh, it's a big deal because

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they didn't know anything about classification systems, or you know,

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with the cope with James Comey, there would be him saying, oh,

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he if he leaked, he didn't leak classified information, but

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like no knowledge about how that classification worked. And with

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the Hunter Biden laptop, like people just coming up with

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excuses for why that censorship was okay and didn't relate

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to corruption. Just like time and time again, you see

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the media operating one hundred percent as Democrat operatives or

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operatives of some kind rather than journalists who are trying

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to understand the intricacies of a situation and reporting it accurately.

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of that. They didn't care if it were true about

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these promises made by Democrats surrounding Obamacare. They did not

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care if they said it was going to to cost

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this much. They would just regurgitate that. They wouldn't critically

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analyze it. If someone said, well, that's not true, this

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is not going to work that way, they would call

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that personal liar. They would point back to the Democrat

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talking points. And I know probably almost everyone who's listening

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to this show really understands that propaganda role that the

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press play. But it is really frustrating when you say,

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like fifteen years later, you come back and you look

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at what these promises were, what these claims were, how

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they weren't true. It's kind of cold comfort to be like, well,

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see I was right, they weren't true, because it's like

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fifteen years of water under the bridge. Yeah, at the time,

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it was a good mixed metaphor.

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this now, but at the time there was still some

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trust in the media I think we thought of it

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as a biased media, but we didn't think of it

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as a complete propaganda media, which it was, and Obamacare

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real understanding of the topic. They haven't spent the time.

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like everyone's a columnist now everyone is, you know, it's

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completely democratized and people are pundits. And I think that's fine.

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also voices who clearly have not spent the time to

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understand the topic they're writing about, and just you know,

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feed people things they want to hear. And with Obamacare,

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cost curve and everyone would like, oh, yeah, that's what

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we need to do, and then yeah, they bent the

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cost curve. The premium since twenty ten are up eighty

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percent for a family of four, right, But they yeah,

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they just they didn't understand the topic, just like they

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didn't understand foreign policy, classified information, all this stuff, and

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they were used by the Obama administration to sell everyone

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this ridiculous bill that has failed on every level, from

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the exchanges to the pricing. Like everyone remembers, Obama said

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you can keep your insurance if you like it, and

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then that was a big lie and like seven million

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people lost their insurance before he was out of office.

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down two five hundred dollars. He said this hundreds of times,

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and it went in the opposite direction. You'll remember he

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just ignored like employee mandates. Remember the whole individual mandate,

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which is a Supreme Court to save Obamacare, pretended was

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a tax. Now it's just a conceptual thing. We don't

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even bring in any There's zero revenue being brought in

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by the individual mandate or the employee mandate, all these

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things that were Remember like if you said it was

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going to cost more than a trillion dollars, a swarm

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of fact checkers would the send to tell you that

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you were lying. But yet it's cost us way more.

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point five That was a ten year estimate, but right

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now Democrats want one point five billion in subsidies. I

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think and remember they gave us that ten year estimate.

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It was ten years of taxation and eight years of

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actual obotmacure services. Like they even lied about the cost

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right at the very beginning. And these were the same

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people who lied about like later about foreign policy in

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the Iran deal for Obama, and later lied about classified information.

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right now. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Are we in a labor force participation disaster? The Watch

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and how it affects your wallet. In nineteen fifty, eighty

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six percent. Think about that. Government handouts and giveaways are

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not helping. Whether it's happening in DC or down on

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Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: I really I rarely read pieces in the Newer Times

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or Washington Posts where you know, honestly, sometimes I have

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to go because they do cover more of their big organizations,

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and I feel like, wow, this reporter really knows their stuff,

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and this is just not a repeat of a press

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release somewhere. And that's why have you noticed? Like when

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we were young, there used to be a reporter. He

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was an expert on his beat and he wrote a story.

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by lines. I just think that they don't really have

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expertise and they need each other to kind of I

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don't know, they like fill these stories with journal with

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jargon and bias and then you know this serious language.

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But these stories could be like two paragraphs usually, or

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I could just go and look at a press release

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and know what's going on. Same thing goes on with

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these Israel Gaza thing right now. I just there's so

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many of the people covering it do not understand the

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history of this or don't care. And I don't understand

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everything either, and so I'm trying to find information, like

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on the Komby indictment. If we're ready to move on,

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James Comy was indicted for lying to Congress in twenty twenty.

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I thought, and this was going to be a be

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about Russia Gate incident and his actions there, which I

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think we're slimy and dishonest that the least. But it's

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about it seems, or most people believe it, or no,

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we know it goes back to the Hillary Clinton investigation,

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you know, for the illegal server she had, and his

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leaks through other through intermediaries. I believe it's a little

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bit related.

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Speaker 2: You are correct that the story that he's indicted for

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lying about authorizing leaks over was a story about Hillary

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Clinton's server, But the actual classified information that's in there

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is from the Russia collusion HUX, so it's it's interrelated.

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in August that related to something that we'd already known

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a little bit about. We already knew that Obama's Director

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of National Intelligence, Clapper, had gone to the White House

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in July of twenty sixteen, and one of the things

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he'd told President Obama at the time was that Russia

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knew about Hillary's plan to tie Trump to Russia. This

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is really interesting date for this to be happening, July

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twenty sixteen, because most of America didn't realize there was

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like a whole plot to falsely accuse Trump of colluding

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with Russia to steal the twenty sies sixteen election until

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many months later, But in late July twenty sixteen, Clapper

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goes to the White House tells Obama that a well,

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and then we learned through these declassified documents from last

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month or two months ago that what happened. What happened

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was there was a third country for some reason. I

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like to think it's the Dutch, but I don't remember

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where that came from and why. I think that who

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had gained access to Russian internal chats about America and

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shared it with us. Now, the first thing that's interesting

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to me about this is that the day after this

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third country tells us that they have found out information

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from Russia, Clapper calls a Russian counterpart, and according to him,

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he says, and I told them to knock it off,

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which is like a weird thing to say. Anyway, that

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day they closed this lipole that was allowing the Dutch

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or whomever to read their internal communications. So it almost

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seems like he called them to let them know that,

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to them, to let them know that they had this loophole. Anyway,

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in that tranch of documents that the third party country reviews.

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They're all sorts of interesting things. He might remember. The

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media ran interference when this came out because some of

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the documents were probably originally in English, translated to Russian,

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translated to Dutch or whatever, and then translated back to English,

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and so they didn't match perfectly, and they said that

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was proof that they were fraudulent documents. In all reality,

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it was not just the translation issues. It was also

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probably that they were summaries. You know, at some point

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they became summaries, and so then these things inflicted with

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the original documents that had been stolen by Russia. And

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some of the things that they said were directly related

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to the Russia collusion hoax. As I just mentioned, like

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this is actually a major part of the Russia collusion hoax.

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Is this third country telling us that the Russians have

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this information. But also they said that they the Russians

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knew that or it believed that Attorney General Breda Lynch

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was compromised. And it's that information that gets put in

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the New York Times story that James Komy later lies

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about that's classified and he does it also related to

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the Russia colusion hoax. The whole point of the story

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is for him to get Democrats, I think back on

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his side. So if you remember what happened in twenty sixteen, again,

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James Komy is trying to protect Hillary Clinton, but does

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it in the slimiest, meanest possible way. He goes out

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accuses her and convicts her in a court of a

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press conference instead of a court of law, but then

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says that no reasonable prosecutor would go after her, and

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so he's not gonna he's not gonna recommend that she

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be charged with anything. Well, then do you remember Anthony

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Wiener's I'm sorry this is taking so long with such a.

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Speaker 1: No no I was I was gonna mention this as well.

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I think that's exactly right. Yeah, Anthony Wiener was married

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to Huma Abadeen ory Clinton server.

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Speaker 2: You know, according James call me. Instead of every country

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in the world swimming around in there, no countries did,

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and there's no need to press charges. But then later

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they find out that this server was so not locked

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down that Huma Abbiden's husband at the time, Anthony Wiener,

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who's being investigated, I think for childborn, but I can't

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remember exactly.

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Speaker 1: He was conversing with a sixteen or fifteen year old.

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But that was I believe, but that was it was

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a cop. But yeah, he was doing that.

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Speaker 2: So he's being investigated for that. And while they've got

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his computer, they're like, wait, why is Hillary Clinton's entire

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server on this computer too, which reminds me that one

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of the people who had hacked into it, or had

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one of the people who had hacked somewhere had said

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that it was like being the last person in the

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swimming pool. It was just like so polluted, so many

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people had been in there in the server that nobody

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got into it.

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Speaker 1: I believe she had sent him, the wife had sent

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him classified documents through email. She wanted to print it up,

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and I believe that was there a bunch of them.

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I think it's been a while, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have the printer at my house, so I'm

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the person who gets emailed documents from ready, but instead

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of classified documents, it's like the study guide for ap

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history or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I can't even I have a printer and I can't

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get it to work. I never can. I don't understand.

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I know this is cliche, but I don't know why

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they can't do better with the printers.

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Speaker 2: So James Comey had said when he was trying to

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help Hillary Clinton in July twenty sixteen or try to

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do a slimy thing, that if any new information came

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to light, they would reopen the investigation. But as such

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it was closed, well almost immediately thereafter. They're in Anthony

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Wiener's laptop. There's tons of stuff the investigation should have

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been reopened. The Southern District, New York guys working on

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her like, well, obviously we need to reopen this. And

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this is big, and they're they're getting weird contact from

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FBI headquarters and there are also is like weird stuff

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happening where they're not taking this seriously and it starts

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to become a major issue. And so then James Comy

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does the meanest thing ever for Hillary Clinton, which is

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he is forced into reopening the investigation into her emails

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days before the election. And that was a close election.

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James Comy, through his corruption, ineptitude, everything was way too

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involved in that election, not even on the Hillary Clinton's side,

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to say nothing of his Russia coclusion hooks. There's an

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argument to be made. Literally, no one disagrees with that argument,

480
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and so he real and then that hurts her in

481
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the closing days of the twenty sixteen election.

482
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Speaker 1: So I just want to say, I mean, everyone blames Komy,

483
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and I think he will go over a little bit

484
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,440
more of that. But I think he acted terribly, like

485
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,839
you say, and you shouldn't have been, But she brought

486
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:16,680
it on herself. She lost that election because she actually

487
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:20,200
should have. She did break the law, and that letter

488
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,599
that Comy sent simply reminded people of what she had

489
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:26,240
actually done, you know what I mean. So, yeah, call

490
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me acted poorly, but I think that Hillary just arrogantly

491
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,480
and recklessly did whatever she wanted and it finally caught

492
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up to her.

493
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Speaker 2: Now, No, I agree. I've actually always said that I

494
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can understand trying to not get involved in an important

495
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:49,079
election such as a presidential election through investigation, and I

496
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,039
could I would be able to totally feel for the

497
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,480
FBI and James Comy about the Hillary Clinton situation if

498
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,680
at the same exact time they weren't create aiding an

499
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,960
imaginary collusion thing to destroy Donald Trump, like if they

500
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,559
were just trying to be like, we don't want we

501
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,880
don't want to get involved in this right now. It's yeah,

502
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440
she probably broke the law, but we're not going to

503
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,359
get into it if they hadn't also, at the same

504
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,400
time been trying to claim that Donald Trump was a

505
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Russian asset.

506
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Speaker 1: Hillary was above the law and Trump was below the law,

507
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,000
going all the way into the law. Fair that happened,

508
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:25,759
you know later.

509
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So then he comy starts doing his really doing

510
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,279
his Russia game, playing publicly, telling people different things at

511
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,880
different places, lying to Trump, lying to Congress, lying to everybody,

512
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,319
and so Democrats kind of want to support him, but

513
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,079
they're still angry about what he did to Hillary. That

514
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,640
April twenty seventeen story, I think is his attempt to

515
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:55,039
get Democrats back on his side by pointing out, by

516
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,880
bringing back to light what the Russians knew about Loretta Lynch,

517
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,519
that she she was compromised, and so that's the classified

518
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,839
information he's in trouble for lying about. But I think

519
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,880
when people say it's not about the russiacclusion hoax, that's

520
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,079
not quite right. In multiple ways. It's sort of all

521
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:13,759
about the hoax.

522
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Speaker 1: I always thought, or I think now that or I

523
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:23,119
believe now that Clapper and Brennan were kind of ideologues

524
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,200
in a way, but I never really I don't believe

525
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,599
that Komi was Initially. I think it was more about

526
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200
self preservation and he was kind of thrown into this

527
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:39,519
position where he gave Hillary a pass while pointing out

528
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that she had broken the law numerous occasions. He had

529
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,319
given all her staffers who had clean literally smashed phones

530
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,319
a pass so that you couldn't get in trouble, and

531
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,000
he thought it was over. But when this thing happened

532
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:05,039
and with Wiener, he didn't like think about what Democrats

533
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,039
were asking him to do and mad about they wanted

534
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:14,200
him to bury evidence until after the election to help

535
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,160
their preferred candidate win. Like, isn't that a precursor to

536
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,680
what came later where they were just like, your job

537
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,240
is to defend democracy against Donald Trump, no matter what.

538
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,160
Comy wrote a letter to Congress. Comy went in front

539
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,519
of Congress, he said, and promised them that if new

540
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,519
information emerged that he would tell them about it. They

541
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:33,960
wanted him not to do that and break the law essentially.

542
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,599
So I think the Hillary part of this, meaning the

543
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,079
investigation into her server, really was a precursor to a

544
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:44,920
lot of the craziness that went on in the way

545
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240
that law enforcement agencies had been politicized. It was just

546
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,880
like a little taste of how crazy it was. Everyone

547
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
said that Comby had heard Hillary when I think he

548
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,839
did everything he could to save her because he was

549
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,599
always just a person who cared about as himself. I

550
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440
think later on he pretended to be this fighter, you know,

551
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440
for democracy. You'll remember, I wish I had the quote

552
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,400
in front of me when when Donald Trump had, you know,

553
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400
when they raided his home and looking for classified information

554
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,319
and all that, he had said, you know, no one's

555
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:15,480
above the law and all that, but people were above

556
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,200
the law under his watch. So I you know, but

557
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,559
here's the thing. Is he going to be found guilty here?

558
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:26,039
From what I've read, it seems like that's pretty unlikely.

559
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,799
Speaker 2: David, I genuinely don't know what to say about this.

560
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,519
I mean, first off, I would caution everybody that it's

561
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,119
possible they indicted him for something. You know that, I mean,

562
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,920
the grand jury indicted him. It's very easy to get

563
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,279
a grand jury indictment, although very difficult to get a

564
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,440
gran jury indictment against a Democrat in the DC or

565
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,599
Northern Virginia suburbs. So there is like even that it

566
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,319
made it to that point is a little bit like surprising,

567
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960
and it's probably related to just what a blatant and

568
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,960
brazen and continuous liar. James Comey has been including about this.

569
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,319
And Chuck Grassley, who does more at age ninety than

570
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,799
most people do at age twenty, was out there pointing

571
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,960
out that when Komy was lying to Congress about this,

572
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:15,559
he was running an oversight investigation into the FBI like

573
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,720
this was one of the things that made it so

574
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,599
difficult to hold people accountable in real time for what

575
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:27,119
Komy and his other people had done is that he

576
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,839
was lying about it just openly, and also to get

577
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,079
back to it, that the media were helping him along

578
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:39,559
with his lies. But you can do a superseding indictment

579
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,240
as you find out more, and they might be able

580
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,279
to do it. But one of the main issues is

581
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,359
the obstruction was so effective that the statues, the statutes

582
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,400
of limitations are all like past for almost all of

583
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,880
these guys, So you really have to lean into the

584
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,799
obstruction angle. And then even on that front, all they

585
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:01,359
had to do was obstruct for another five years or

586
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,720
you know, past the five year statute and then you're done.

587
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:07,519
So it's frustrating.

588
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: You remember there, and they had to get an indictment

589
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,400
I believe in under the wire here anyway, and that

590
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,679
might have been the reason. I mean that probably is

591
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,880
almost surely the reason they did this now. But you remember,

592
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,920
I think there was an IG report in like twenty

593
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,679
twenty or twenty nineteen that said Comy had acted unprofessionally,

594
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,079
ignored norms of his agency, et cetera, et cetera. So

595
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,679
he's always been Uh, there's.

596
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: A lot of slaps on risks, and there's a way

597
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,079
of seeing a lot of the problems that we're having

598
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,239
right now is directly related to James Comy, the Russia

599
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,599
closuon hoax, and the failure to hold people accountable for

600
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,239
what was done there. That was that was, you know,

601
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,920
an insurrection against a duly elected government, and it was

602
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:02,360
really run by elites and powerful people, and and it

603
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,440
did a lot to enable people to think they were

604
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:10,840
justified in not recognizing Donald Trump as the legitimately elected president,

605
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,159
to say that people should not normalize him or Republicans

606
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,079
anyone who voted for him. A lot of the violence

607
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,960
and the anger that is coming to fruition now traces

608
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,400
back to that point and the idea that you wouldn't

609
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,920
hold people accountable. I mean, these people absolutely should be

610
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,840
in prison at the very least, and that they might

611
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,639
skate is not good for the health of the republic.

612
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Speaker 1: Well, I agree, but these people all became like consequentialists

613
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,599
that you know, they gave themselves permission to do whatever

614
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,960
they wanted to save the country from Donald Trump. But

615
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,199
we also have to acknowledge that a lot of these

616
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
people in the CIA, FBI where you know, and other

617
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:01,360
agencies are given tremendous amount of leeway and power, and

618
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,840
it's really difficult to hold them accountable, which is why

619
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,039
we should be putting people there who are who are honest.

620
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,800
Just very difficult to do in DC. But this wasn't

621
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,159
the case and hasn't been the case for a long time.

622
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,760
All Right, The next story we should talk about is

623
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:24,239
Donald Trump announcing a forgetting Now was it a twenty

624
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,679
point or twenty one point? I think it was initially

625
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,400
twenty one and now it's twenty point piece plan to

626
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:33,039
end the Gaza Israeli Gaza. I should say to Hamas

627
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:41,199
Israeli war in Gaza, right now. I guess I should

628
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,679
start by saying I think it's a It is a

629
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,559
good plan. It would be a great plan if you

630
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:54,360
were dealing with normal people, or Western people, or people

631
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,679
who had the same outlook about the future and their

632
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,480
lives as we doers the Israelis do, as many others do.

633
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,320
I don't think that's the case. There is the number

634
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,440
one thing. The first thing everyone has to do here

635
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:13,800
is Gaza will be you radicalized, a terror frey zone

636
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,599
that does not pose a threat to its neighbors. This

637
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:22,320
has been the only demand made by Israel from the beginning.

638
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,039
It's the only you know, Israel in two thousand and

639
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:29,679
five gave Gaza autonomy and this was their hope, and

640
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,119
it never really happens. If it did, Gaza would be

641
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:37,039
rich by now. You know, the whole world wants to

642
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,239
help Gaza. All they do is funnel money through all

643
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,599
kinds of international organizations to Gaza. No one cares about

644
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,920
the DRWS, No one cares about the Kurds, No one

645
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,519
cares about the tons of minorities all over the world

646
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,119
who don't have states. No one, I mean not no one,

647
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,119
but very few people in the West, but Palestinians or

648
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:59,119
the object of everyone's affection, and they could be very successful,

649
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,800
but they're not. So I am a little skeptical that

650
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,159
this will work out in this way. Putting Tony Blair

651
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:11,239
in charge of it fine, you know, but I don't know,

652
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,000
So I'm kind of skeptical. I hope it works. I

653
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,840
hope the hostages are returned. I hope the war can end.

654
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,719
I hope the suffering of gods and civilians can end

655
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,000
brought on them by Hamas. And I hope they start

656
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:30,039
voting for people aren't Hamas in the future. But you know,

657
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,679
and I should also say this plan falls short of

658
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,400
saying that there needs to be a state there, which

659
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,079
I'm happy about. I don't think there should ever be

660
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:40,679
a state there. I mean not in the near future

661
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,239
at least or you know, in my lifetime hopefully. And

662
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:46,880
I don't know. Those are my impressions of it, just

663
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,559
off the bat.

664
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: I think I've just completely lost any belief that these

665
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,840
people can live near each other. So what I want

666
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,719
is for neighboring countries to come up with a plan

667
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:10,559
to bring the people of the Gaza Strip and maybe

668
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,599
the West Bank to them.

669
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: That is the answer. Just so you know, the answer

670
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,599
is annexation. Right, people are all you know, Israel's this

671
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,599
Israel that no one mentions, or very few people mentioned

672
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,639
that Egypt has a border with Gaza that's completely shut down.

673
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:37,119
They don't want Palestinians in Egypt because Hamas is Muslim brotherhood,

674
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,920
and they would. They are a big problem for Egypt.

675
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:44,840
The Jordanians don't want them for the same reason. Here's

676
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,280
the thing everyone keeps I see. I keep saying everyone,

677
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,400
I'm sorry. There are people I see many people who

678
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,800
write about the Arab Israeli conflict, when indeed, at this

679
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,760
point in the history, there is no Arab conflict. Israel

680
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,440
has no conflict with Egypt. Israel has no conflict with

681
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,280
Jordan or Saudi Arabia or most of the Gulf nations

682
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other than Qatar, and that is a very limited conflict.

683
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,760
In a way, it has a conflict with the Palestinians.

684
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,159
If Palestinians were when Palestinians were in Jordan, there was

685
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,639
a conflict. When the PLO was in Jordan, there was

686
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a conflict with the Jordanians. When the PLO and Hesbala

687
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or in Lebanon, there's a conflict with Lebanon, when they're

688
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,400
with the Muslim brother in Egypt. There's a conflict there.

689
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,480
This is a Palestinian problem. No one wants them, so

690
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:35,320
you know, you're right, that's the solution, but it's not

691
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,039
going to happen. So you know, I actually don't know

692
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:42,920
what the solution is with them. Even now there's terror.

693
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:46,760
You know, there's terror going on in Jerusalem occasionally. Today

694
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,599
this morning I saw rockets were fired again. I just

695
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,760
I don't buy that that people there are searching for peace,

696
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,400
but you can't build a terror state next to your nation.

697
00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,880
It doesn't matter how many Americans are mad at Israel,

698
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,079
what the Poles say. No country would do that because

699
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,880
there it's a democratic country and they would immediately vote

700
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,599
out the people in charge and then change it because

701
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,760
no one wants to live next to a terrorist state

702
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,679
threatening its citizens. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

703
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:19,559
I also do want to say that I do think

704
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,599
Donald Trump has made an earnest effort here. This isn't

705
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,480
like some pr stunt. This is the plan that normal

706
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,960
people would agree to to end a war typically, and

707
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,159
obviously Qatar is on board. Now maybe Nata Yahu was

708
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,599
in the White House and he called the Katari Prime

709
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:42,840
minister or whatever they have over there, and that cheek them.

710
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,360
And most newspapers said that he had apologized to them

711
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,400
for bombing, but I read the readout and he didn't apologize.

712
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,360
He said he regretted that a Katari died. He never

713
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,840
apologized for going after Hamas, but I think he had

714
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,199
to say that. Probably Donald Trump told him to say

715
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,960
it to move this forward. So everyone seems to be

716
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,039
on board. I think Guitar has had enough of Hamas.

717
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:04,960
I think they don't want Hamas there anymore. I think

718
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,239
it's hurting their their credibility and all that. So we'll see.

719
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,639
Speaker 2: H so it works.

720
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Just this last story on the news, I think

721
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,920
it was a Fox News exclusive. They unearthed more of

722
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,159
these cards that Joe Biden used to use to well,

723
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:31,079
initially it was about journalists, so he would get the

724
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,920
questions in advance. There would be a picture of the person.

725
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,199
I don't know why I'm laughing. He was an old

726
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:38,280
man and he couldn't remember these things and then it

727
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,559
would give him the appropriate answer. But now we know

728
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,760
that there were cards also that identified people like Hillary

729
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,519
Clinton and those he knew. So Obviously this was hidden

730
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,400
by the people in the administration, and I believe most

731
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,679
of the people in the media who knew who knew

732
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,480
what was going on in general at least, if not

733
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:02,519
all the specifics. It's and it's a massive scandal that

734
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:04,880
we just kind of have gone past and it's nothing

735
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,079
we can do now. But I think history is going

736
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,679
to remember that presidency is one of the worst and

737
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,360
worst in history and one of the most dishonest administrations.

738
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: So I remember Hunter Biden gave an interview after the

739
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,880
election where he was really upset with George Clooney because

740
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,960
George Clooney had said that Joe Biden didn't know him

741
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,639
and had to be told who he was in a

742
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:32,159
photo line, and Hunter Biden was like, this is so ridiculous,

743
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:35,039
Like it was a photo line where Biden didn't know

744
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,559
a lot of people, but they just literally say everybody's

745
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,320
name as they're coming up, And if you've been in

746
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,559
one of those, that is how they go. Your mom

747
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:44,960
could show up and they could be like, this is

748
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,599
your mother, you know. So I think that sometimes people

749
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,840
might overstate, like even I'd like to know more about

750
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,039
the Hillary Clinton card to know whether that was just

751
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:56,559
like a literal here's a reminder of who you're in

752
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:58,960
a meeting with, so that you don't be like, you

753
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,079
know that. The media cards are what I find so alarming,

754
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,679
not because they're not just about Biden's dementia. They are

755
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,119
mostly about the media's the media going along with it,

756
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:18,559
because if you remember what these cards show, it'll be like,

757
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960
here's the picture of the person you're going to call on,

758
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,559
here's the order you're going to call on them, you know,

759
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,400
like they're number three, here's the outlet that they're with,

760
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:32,440
here's the question they're going to ask you, and then

761
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,519
those are the questions that they ask, Well, how does

762
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:36,119
that happen?

763
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: They're complexity for sure.

764
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: It means the media are telling that, oh, that world's

765
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,159
stupidest press secretary, what was her name? Kareem John Pierre.

766
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,159
It means they're saying, here's the question I want to

767
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:51,320
ask there. In order to be called on, you have

768
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,760
to ask a sympathetic question or something that allows him to,

769
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,199
you know, talk about his favorite ice cream or whatever,

770
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,079
or why the Republicans are bad. This is not how

771
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:07,039
it's done normally in a non Democrat white house. And

772
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,239
when the media were busted dead to rights doing this.

773
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,360
They were like, I don't see what the big deal is,

774
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,320
and then later they were like, who could have known

775
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,159
he had dementia? It's it's the people who are supposed

776
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,519
to be holding the Biden White House accountable that bothered

777
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,719
me more than him having a card about Hillary Clinton

778
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:25,599
or the like.

779
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I think it's I know that it

780
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:34,480
undermines your journalistic integrity and ethics of the of the

781
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,320
profession to do that. I have to say occasionally, when

782
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,400
I used to be on an editorial board and i'd interview,

783
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:43,480
you know, we talked to Mitt Romney, we talked to

784
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:46,760
other you know, McCain and Obama wouldn't talk to us.

785
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,079
But the if someone asked for questions beforehand, we would

786
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:54,199
just have said no. I mean, and these were and

787
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:56,880
I was working with Democrats, and they would definitely have

788
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,719
said no. You know, I remember McCain coming in with

789
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,880
no notes. You'd ask him about you could you know.

790
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,599
I know a lot of people don't like him now

791
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,480
or Republicans don't have a favorable view of him, but

792
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,840
he sat down. No one told me what I was

793
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,920
allowed to ask or not to ask. I asked him

794
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,760
some tough questions, he answered them, yeah, because he understood

795
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,199
what he believed. Then he was you know, give you

796
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400
coherent answers. There's simply no way Joe Biden could have

797
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
done that. And if a person can't sit down, doesn't

798
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,239
know what they believe, can't answer questions, I don't even

799
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,159
care if they remember your name or remember the name

800
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:33,280
of their cabinet members or whatever, that is not a

801
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,360
person who should be president. They're simply not competent mentally

802
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,960
to be in that position, which is the hardest job

803
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:41,679
that there is, or if not the herd I think

804
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,079
it is, probably is. But it's also the most important

805
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:47,239
job in the world. I'd say, so there could have

806
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,000
been another Democrat running the country. Didn't have to be

807
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,639
Joe Biden, you know. And then we're supposed to believe

808
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:56,719
that they once they found out, they were horrified and

809
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,880
everyone turned on him. No, they were trying to save

810
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,039
the White House from Donald Trump, and they realized that

811
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:05,159
now everyone knew what had happened. That's all that that

812
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:10,400
it was all right, Molly, have you ever heard of

813
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,119
bad Bunny?

814
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, yes, I am not an aficionado. Have

815
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,159
you heard you have not heard of him.

816
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,079
Speaker 1: Okay, well maybe in passing, but someone your wonderful husband

817
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:22,599
Mark had mentioned that he was not a fan. He

818
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,400
did I don't think he thinks he should be the

819
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:30,639
super Bowl halftime UH performer next year, which she was named,

820
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,719
and that someone said they can't wait till you and

821
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,199
I debate Bad Bunny, but I pointed out that I

822
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,760
don't know any songs of Bad Bunny. I know nothing

823
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,039
about him, so I don't think it's going to be

824
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:42,000
a very long debate.

825
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't care. I mean I tried to care, and

826
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,239
I couldn't care. I saw people being upset about it,

827
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,320
but it just wasn't working for me to be that

828
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,519
upset about it. I don't like him much. I don't

829
00:47:55,519 --> 00:48:00,239
hate him. His music relies heavily on auto tune, which

830
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,360
is not something I respect or like to listen to.

831
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,880
And yet he also is a big stadium tour kind

832
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,360
of got he's I think he's might even be on

833
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,199
world tour. What I'm interested in is he said he

834
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,480
would not come back to the United States to perform

835
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,880
because he was worried that the criminal illegal aliens who

836
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,559
go to his concert might be arrested by Ice. So

837
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,400
is that not a concern for were his was his

838
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,199
courageous stand on behalf of lawbreaking and disrespect for borders.

839
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,599
Did that go away when the money floated for the

840
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:43,519
Super Bowl halftime show. I don't know. But he's you know,

841
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:47,159
he's a darling of the left. He's a gender bending

842
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,679
like flirts with maybe he's gay or maybe he's queer baiting,

843
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,440
I don't know. And so Saturday Night Live likes to

844
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,199
have him on as a performer. And there is this

845
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,159
weird thing. By the way, I'd love Spanish, the language

846
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,440
of Espaniel, but it is weird that when Saturday Night

847
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,199
Live has him on, they just kind of do half

848
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:06,239
the show in Spanish.

849
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, I think you can a lot

850
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,719
of people, performers, for sure, can be bought. Did you

851
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,679
see this that there's this Saudi comic festival going on

852
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:28,199
with like all the big name comics and all, you know,

853
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,599
many of them are libs, you know, some of them

854
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,119
are not, who are always very offended by alleged a

855
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,639
creeping authoritarianism here, but they'll go to Saudi Arabia. And

856
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:41,519
apparently they were offered like a ton of money, probably

857
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:44,159
over a million bucks. Many of them, and I was

858
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,480
happy to see. I saw an interview with Shane Gillis,

859
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,000
who I think is very funny, and he said that

860
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,920
he had said no because he doesn't want to be

861
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,440
in Saudi Arabia. Then they came back and doubled doubled

862
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,320
the money for him to go, and he said he

863
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,559
wouldn't go be because they did nine to eleven and

864
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,480
you don't nine to eleven your friends. So I thought

865
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,559
that was really funny. But obviously you can be bought

866
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,719
to come back to the country and perform at the

867
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,079
Super Bowl. So culturally speaking, have you done anything, You're

868
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,199
still on your little I don't.

869
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,679
Speaker 2: Necessarily have a problem with people going to Saudi Arabia

870
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,000
for a comedy tour, and I totally respect what Shane

871
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:32,199
Gillis did there and said there. But you know, sometimes

872
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:34,960
these kinds of cultural exchanges can be for the benefit

873
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,519
of other people too.

874
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: I do have a problem with it if there are

875
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,719
any restrictions on what you can say. So if if

876
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,880
you if you sign a contract that says I won't

877
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,880
make fun of the country or the royal family or

878
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,199
something like that, I think that's a big problem. If

879
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:54,800
you're a comedian, because I do respect comedians, and I

880
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,480
think in a way it's a very it's one of

881
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,760
the most truthful mediums I guess, or whatever you'd call

882
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,719
it that exists. But we'll see. I'm sure there'll be

883
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,039
reports on that. Okay, So culture, I know you haven't

884
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:10,400
been home in a while. I don't think, but.

885
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,199
Speaker 2: I have not been home in forever. I mean, this

886
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,679
month has been insane. I've been on the road. I

887
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,679
will continue to be on the road. So I did

888
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,119
go to the wedding of two of my very good

889
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:30,199
friends in Nashville this past weekend, and that was just wonderful.

890
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,039
These are two very very close friends. There's a beautiful

891
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,800
Lutheran church downtown with beautiful hymns and scripture readings, and

892
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,199
then we did the reception at the Bell Tower, which

893
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,559
is a nice venue also downtown, and then we walked

894
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:50,880
over to Eric Church's bar afterward on Broadway. I'm not

895
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,559
a big Broadway in Nashville person, but it was fun

896
00:51:54,599 --> 00:52:00,519
to be there with the wedding party. And yeah, that

897
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:05,079
Nashville thing, it is overloaded with bachelorette parties. I think

898
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,719
people are aware of that, but it's just awful and

899
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,800
then it.

900
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: Is Broadway, that street that has all the bars where

901
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960
everyone's playing twenty four to seven. I was there in

902
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,119
the middle of Nashville. I don't know Nashville that well.

903
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: That's the one. And then the day of the wedding,

904
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,679
or the day before the wedding, I can't remember what

905
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,360
it was we did, or it was the day after

906
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,559
the wedding. We went to the Lane Auto Museum. There

907
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,360
were some kids in our crew, and that is a

908
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:35,320
wonderful or Lane Motor museum. It's called so it's just

909
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,119
in Nashville. It's a normal guy's collection of automobiles and

910
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:43,960
it's they're grouped by which country they're from, and it's

911
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,039
a really well done museum. You can get through it,

912
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:53,159
like in an hour. There's also a vault downstairs of

913
00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:57,159
of additional vehicles and they rotate them, I think, but

914
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,239
I would recommend it. And I like cars. And they

915
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,920
had all different kinds, like you know, scooters and and

916
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,639
amphibious cars, just all sorts of things. It was great.

917
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,199
What did you do?

918
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: It's like fun. What did I do? I didn't do much.

919
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,440
I watched some things. One show is called The House

920
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,760
of Guinness. He is I believe it's produced by the

921
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,480
same people who made Peaky Blinders. It definitely has the

922
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,199
same feel and tone, less violent. It's about it takes

923
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:39,960
place in the eighteen hundreds, about Guinness Beer a company,

924
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:43,639
and it's about Catholics and Protestants and America and bringing

925
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,039
the product America, and it's pretty good. I saw a

926
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,199
horrible movie called Karate Kid Legends with Jackie Chan and yeah,

927
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Danny Larussa's in it from the old movie. Was like,

928
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,840
I remember seeing that the original, you know, when I

929
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,360
was a kid. So I tend to watch them and

930
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,159
then I don't know if you know. Slow Horses has

931
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,840
started up again. I think it's season five or six.

932
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,719
I don't even remember.

933
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:08,599
Speaker 2: Is it worth it?

934
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: I just like watching Gary Oldman. The story seems kind

935
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,320
of dumb, to be honest, but I'll just watch it.

936
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,880
I am a fan of that show. I think previous

937
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,239
seasons have been very good. This one's not. I don't

938
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,199
believe this one's getting reviewed as well, but we'll see.

939
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:32,599
I think that's all I have. Okay, so are you

940
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:33,880
headed home soon?

941
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: I am, and then I'll be on the road again.

942
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

943
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: I had Tampa and I'm headed back to Phoenix. I

944
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,760
will be guest hosting the Charlie Kirk radio show next week. Nice,

945
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,000
so we can talk about that next week.

946
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, you belong to the world. You're out there.

947
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,360
They want you.

948
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: But I'm in Hillsdale, Michigan right now. I teach here,

949
00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:00,599
and I spoke last night to the lo In Student

950
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:03,360
Society and sure enough people came up and they're like,

951
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,360
we're faithful listeners of the David Harsani Molly Hummingway podcast

952
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,199
and everywhere I go people love you.

953
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Speaker 1: We got to move my name to the front many

954
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Did you see this email from a friend of yours,

955
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see Wallace de Witt.

956
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Speaker 2: He's the best, Yes, but read it.

957
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Speaker 1: Well, He writes to Register complain about the cover design

958
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for the podcast pictured below, and I don't know if

959
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people have seen it. Puts the picture of me and you,

960
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:37,000
as you can see, Molly, he writes, is placed to

961
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your right and in red shading, whereas you are placed

962
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to the left and in blue. The unsubtle messaging, together

963
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with the show title, unfairly suggests to casually casual listeners

964
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that you are left liberal, whereas your more astute listeners

965
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understand that you are quite notoriously right liberal, which is correct. Moreover,

966
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if I am correct to my suspicions as to the

967
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podcast esthetic, it continues a grievous reversal of the proper

968
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party Hughes, as remains the case with the Tories blue

969
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and Labor red. Republicans have always sported the Royal Blue,

970
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while Democrats were radical red with all its communist associations.

971
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This was lamentably reversed at the insistence of the Democratic

972
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Party in time for the two thousand election, the prolonged

973
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aftermath of which cemented in the public's mind a historically

974
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inaccurate political palate. Now I don't listen. I don't know

975
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if this guy writes for the Federalist or whatever, but

976
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you should definitely have him rite for the federal Yeah,

977
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his language is beautiful and he is he is great.

978
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He's correct. I never noticed this. You guys have put

979
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me on the left.

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Speaker 2: You guys, wasn't us doing it.

981
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Speaker 1: Together in blue and red. I did not notice and

982
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think about this at the time. If someone just pops up,

983
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it looks like I'm a lefty and you're on the

984
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When I am I am? I think I am. This

985
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is unfair.

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Speaker 2: It was done by Emily Jushinsky. So it certainly would

987
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not have been to harm you.

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Speaker 1: Not to harm me, to pay me in a certain light.

989
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Speaker 2: Perhaps she's not the most conservative person herself, So.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. People tell me

991
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it doesn't mean anything anymore. You know, it's all mixed up.

992
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There's a realignment. But we should redesign this at some point.

993
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First of all, this picture is like ten years old

994
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of me. We need to put old Dave Harsani up there.

995
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You look the same, but I do not. I wish

996
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I was still this young, and but I don't know.

997
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I kind of like the design. I like blue, red

998
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and white for obvious reasons. But I just think it's

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not all boxing gloves. I think people do not understand

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the title exactly. Now. Yes, part of it is that

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you and I disagree on issues, but obviously we agree

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on many things as well. I think it's also us

1003
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saying to people who listen or group thinkers out there

1004
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or whatever that you're wrong as well. It's like a

1005
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shout out to the world to say you're wrong about this,

1006
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or to the media. Do you know what I'm saying?

1007
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Because we came up with this name because we real

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to each other. You're wrong, right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. I have no problem being like,

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if you tell me I'm wrong, it does not anger me.

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It's the whole.

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Speaker 1: Point is that that's the only reason this can happen. Yeah,

1013
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it's funny because I can't do this with a lot

1014
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of people because I've noticed in the world they take

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things very personally when you disagree with them, and I'm

1016
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a little insensitive in how I think I approach things

1017
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when I get worked up. So I do this online

1018
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and I think I have You know, there were people

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I was friendly with who don't seem very friendly with

1020
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me anymore. But I'm sorry. We're not in this to

1021
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make friends. We're in this to try to get to

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the truth. I guess. So that sounds a little bit dramatic. Yeah,

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all right, Well we will get to the truth again

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next week, hopefully. Until them be lovers of freedom and

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anxious for the dawauk Avason Jarganelno Contiana