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Speaker 1: That is called Summer Groove. The project is Delta High,

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and right now, let's get this up here. We've got

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Neil Jackson joining us via WhatsApp from Delta High.

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Speaker 2: Hello Neil, Hello, Hello, Thank you for invoing me on

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your show.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, it's good to have you on. We've been

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I don't remember now what the first single was of

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yours that we played on this show, but but it

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seems like we've been playing your music probably for a

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year now. But uh, Summer Grooves. I like that one

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because summer is my favorite time of year. Of course. Uh,

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as we are in the middle of October, I'm I'm

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longing for summer as an as anyone who knows me

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knows I'm not. I'm not a winter guy.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Fall is nice, you know, the foliage and everything, but

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I prefer summer. So so I like that song a lot.

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But and all of your music though, So tell us

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about what the kind of the mission statement is behind

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Delta High, because everything's kind of uh, you know, it

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sort of takes us back to another time when we

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listen to it. You know, the production is fantastic and

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everything so, but so it's got a very modern sounding production,

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but it's but the vibe is from another time. Shall

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we say, tell us about Delta High.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well I created Delta High. I'm the songwriter. I

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do guitars, keyboards and help mix the actual songs. I'm

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signed to a local record label in England in a

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place called Gorwich, and we've been releasing singles since twenty

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sixteen and we've actually got six albums out as well,

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so we've been very busy over the years. I actually

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formed the band. I mean I had a band at

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the age of eighteen when I was still at school

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and we called it School in Great Britain, and I

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just formed a band then because I think I was

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growing up and it was like the punk era and

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sort of indie music. So I absolutely love that stuff.

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But as I've matured, I've also latched onto sixties sunshine pop.

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I'm really into the Beach Boys, the Beatles, and then

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we went to from that to the harmonic stuff like

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Queen and ten CC. But so when I write a song,

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it tends to be a mixture of sixties, seventies and

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up to date indie. That that top of music. So

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if this particular song, some are some are groovy, is

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very very sunshine pop from the sixties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it about that period of music that

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appeals to you so much? That that because obviously that's

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something you gravitate to it. I mean, what is it

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about that?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: The harmonies? I mean, the vocals on that track sound fantastic?

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Is it? Is it? That? Is it? The just the vibe?

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Is it? What? What is it? I mean? Can you

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pinpoint what it is about that music that appeals to

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you so much?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've always been a big fan of harmony, so

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obviously I grew up mainly in the eighties, but I'd

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love listening to the Beach Boys, Queen the Beatles harmony,

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So I'm fixated with that. So when I write a song,

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I'm always looking at the harmonies and the tone of

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the vocals. I'm very lucky to associate with a guy

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called Dave Land who plays trumpet. You'll hear the trumpet

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on there, and his sidekick Simon Jarrett as well, So

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I tend to nine times out of ten I got

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brass in the songs, and that gives it that fluidity.

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From the sixties and the seventies, they'd actually played in

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a band and they created a song called Walking on Sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the Waves yep, that's.

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Speaker 2: The ones he actually comes from that band, so he

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sort of he sort of brought that lively, happy, carefree

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brass sound with him. So that's that's why you're hearing that.

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And yeah, I just love all things harm and tuneful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, tell me a little bit about the band,

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because in reading about it, I almost get the impression.

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Tell me if I'm right that it's sometimes you hear

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this term collective where it's not necessarily the same musicians

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on every track that you're working with, or at least

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it's different vocalists, right, you work with different singers? Is

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that correct?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I guess a modern day band that are very famous.

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but it be the Gorillas, Oh you've heard of The

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league guy Damien sort of brings in and out different

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people to sing, different people to play on his stuff.

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So I've got a nucleus of people that will actually

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turn up and record the music. But yes, I do

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actually swap vocalists and sometimes people on the guitars.

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Speaker 1: When working with Oh go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I'm just just gonna say my main singer is is Charlotte,

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and you'll hear a singer on that particular song. But yeah,

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on what mood I mean and what top of song cad. Right,

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, do you ever working that way? It sounds exciting,

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but does it ever get Do you ever have a

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situation where you might choose or ask a particular vocalist,

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for example, to do the song and then it's just

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not working and then you have to say, well, maybe

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well we'll switch to a different person for that. I mean,

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does that ever happen where you have to kind of

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change midstream?

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Speaker 2: That's a great call. I've released six albums and I

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reckon I've got five albums that I've actually pushed on

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the wayside because of what you just said. I've sort

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of sat down and I've listened. I thought, actually, it's

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not working. So absolutely it's I do my best to

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choose the right vocalist, but it doesn't always work, and

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you never know once you're in the studio, just don't

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know if it's going to pan out. It normally does,

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and I'm really really happy with what the guys actually

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bring to my songs, but yeah, there are occasions over

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the years where it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious if kind of a variation of that.

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I'm curious too, if you ever find a situation where

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there's something you get into the studio or you know,

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because you have a lot of people kind of contributing

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to the song, does it ever end up something very

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different than what you initially had in mind? But maybe

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in a good way. Maybe it's a happy accident. Maybe

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it comes out even better than what you thought.

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Speaker 2: I think mainly the songs I write tend to actually

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sound on record, so to speak, the same as I

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want them to, because we're not put the music out

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there and show the others. Despite my droney tone, I

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do actually sing okay, So I get the guys to

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actually sing the same melodies, etc. As me. But do

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you know what, every now and then you spot on

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even now and then someone will change it and I

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just think, wow, that's so much better. So that does happen,

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and it's probably it probably happened on Summer Groove, you know,

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there's something added to that. I fool. I'm going to

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stick with that that version.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fun. Yeah yeah, that's that must be

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exciting when when something comes out even better than what

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you had wanted. And now, so what's the live situation

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with this project? Do you play out? Because again I

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would imagine with with the very working with various people

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that that would probably be TRICKI or maybe not. Maybe

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you have a standard band that you play with or

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how does that work well?

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Speaker 2: That that's the problem at the moment. For two years,

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lot of the guys I work with they're actually looking

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at other projects and that they're already doing live shows

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with other people. So we haven't got a live band.

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But I do plan to go live next year. So

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that's something I'm working on. But it's not very not

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very easy for the reasons you've actually pinpointed. I did

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have a live I had a prior group before Delta High,

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and I did have a live band then. It was

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so much easier. But we were like schoolmates, you know,

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so none of us were sort of doing anything outside

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that particular band that and that worked, and I really

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do miss that. So I need to to create a

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live band for Delta High.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see where that would be. That would

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be a challenge. Yeah, what was the previous Was it

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pleasure Device? Was that the previous band that you're in?

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Speaker 2: It was, Yes, you've done your homework, so yeah, it

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was it was it was a yeah, it was Pleasure Device.

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And I don't know if you've you spotted it, but

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we supported R E M. We we did a gig

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Notingham in England and Arim we're doing a show and

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that that actually heard about us and they said can

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you come along and support us? And we sort of

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didn't want to say no, so we turned up. Yeah,

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so my claim to fame was from my pre his band.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, what what was that? Kind of was that

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kind of the apex of that band opening for Arim?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But because we were of an age where we

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weren't sure what we were doing, we didn't sort of

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continue with the band, and people moved away, got married,

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blah blah blah. So the band broke up just at

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the time, just after the time we'd supported R E M.

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So that crushed and burned in a big way, in

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a good way. But now I've got the studio band

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with Delta High. But I really do need to do

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some live stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now what so you're your output with Delta High has

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been been pretty consistent. What what's kind of the future trajectory?

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Obviously Summer Groove is the newest single. Correct?

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes it is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What what what's on the horizon?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got an album out at the moment.

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called Awesome, which came out in June this year. Yeah.

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That that again, that's I tend to do an eclectic

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mix of music. So it opens up with a surf instrumental,

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believe it or not, But then it progresses to a

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song that I actually wrote after watching The Shining So

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that's a bit of a bit of a horror bit

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of a horror movie type song, and then it goes

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a few indie tracks on there. Yeah, there's even there's

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at the moment. But I've literally just completed my next album,

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which will be out January February time, and that's called

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Delta Train. And again it's a it's a mixture of

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sunshine pop. It's got a few indie songs. He's got

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some South American Sauser song, so yeah, I'm mixing it

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Speaker 1: Outstanding. Wow, I mean it sounds like you like to

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challenge yourself. I'm getting that vibe you like to see

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you know what you can really see what you can do.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, I mean a lot, but a lot of

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the bands I like back in the back in the

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myself that when when I signed up to this independent label,

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I just promised myself that I'll try and vary stuff

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to keep the excitement going for me, but also to

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keep a variation out there for listeners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you see it? When? When?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: How how far into the project did you sign with?

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It's Ashwood Music? Is that the label?

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Speaker 2: It is Ashwood Music. They signed me up on twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay eighteen? Yeah, yeah, and you've been with them

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Speaker 2: I have been. Yeah, Yeah, I mean how much.

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Speaker 1: How much? Because you know, you do like to challenge

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yourself and you like to try different things. I mean

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how much do they I know indie labels are generally

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not as invasive, shall we say, in the creative process essay,

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if you're on a major, but I mean, how much

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input do they have in terms of what you're doing

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as far as the music that you're creating or do

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they let you do your thing?

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Speaker 2: They let me do my thing. They actually let me

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create and produce. I mean I sit down with a

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guy called sooss is, the guy that runs the record

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label Music, and it's a free reign. I mean he

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the record label, like to say, music actually follow bandses

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me so I get full support from them, obviously on

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the technical side when he's mixing a master and there's

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loads of things that he's taught me that we need

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to do. I've got a free rain is a very

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very very good agreement for me.

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Speaker 1: That's excellent. Yeah, that's excellent.

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ex sites me is we've got a distribution label which

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is Sony in New York. So I'm very lucky that

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although I'm on an independent with distube, the songs are

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distributed by Sony Sony Records. So that's a big tick

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in the boxing that we know the distributions good. It's

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just it's just getting those songs that are going to

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sort of hit home in the commercial market, which we're

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still we're still trying to search for.

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what what's the situation with radio there? Because I don't know,

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you know, and I don't know what the radio formats

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are there. You know, I know what they are in

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the US obviously because I'm in radio. But I mean,

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where does your music fit in over there on the

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radio or does it because what you're doing is is

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you know, it's unique for its time, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, the the commercial radio stations are very

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very limited. Unfortunately, the commercial stations have been buying up

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local radio stations in the the various regions and there

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those guys, probably including you, that will play unknown sort

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of local bands. So we've got limited airplane A way. Obviously,

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certain people in business that say, well, to these commercial stations,

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it's almost a closed shop and it's really really difficult.

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here we have we have college radio and college radio stations. Obviously,

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they like you, they'll play you, simple as that. So

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it's very very difficult. Yeah, so yeah, that's always a challenge.

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on the radio. So I'm glad you know that we

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can help out on on on this on this side

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of the pond. I'm glad you know if we can

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help help you at all, that's that's I feel good

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about that. So because you know, love what you're doing.

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vibe in that that particular area.

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Speaker 1: Oh? Around here, there's all kinds of stuff because we

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interview so on this show, for example, you know, we

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talk to people from other parts of the country or

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or in this case even other parts of the world,

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come in. In fact, on the third hour of the

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show today we have Dad Harrison uh coming in who

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are a New Hampshire band, And there's so much incredible

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talent here. Just like almost anything you could imagine, any

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kind of music, any kind of vibe, somebody's doing it

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and doing it well. I mean that that just that

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because people occasionally will ask us, you know, how do

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you how do you get how do you get find

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these great guests, And it's like, well, it's it's easy.

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There's there's so much talent around you know.

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Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, it's good to hear.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Oh. By the way, so where does the

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name come from? Delta Hi? What's the significance of the name.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I was looking at the band. I was

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sort of thinking, what sort of music do I want

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to do in it? And I thought, well, I actually

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really liked that the California Sunshine pop that that type

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of thing, and for that reason I came up with Delta.

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I don't know why, but Delta felt like it was

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California bound. No idea why, and I thought, right, I

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can't just call it Delta, and it just flipped into

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my head is Delta High. I'll call it Delta High.

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So I called it Delta High. I set up a website,

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obviously for the band, and it's quite funny. The first

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few months, I had so many, so many invites to netball.

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Is it netball you play? Do you play netball in America?

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Speaker 1: Netball?

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Speaker 2: Is it netball? You play?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Ladies?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Ladies? So they are college? Do they play netball?

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Speaker 1: Volleyball?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I've got invited to so many volleyball games and

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I was thinking, why are people in America inviting me

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to a volleyball games? Were realized that they were sending

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messages to Delta High, which is a college. Oh yeah,

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and it was filtering through to me. I'd love to go,

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but I can't. It's too too expensive to get there.

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That's a story.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Delta High, it felt it felt sunshine Pop California.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. Well, Neil, I've

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really enjoyed our conversation, and uh, you know, obviously we'll

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have you back in the future because you're going to

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keep releasing new music and we'll keep playing it and

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supporting supporting you any way we can, and we'd love

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to have you back. And I was thinking about closing

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out the segment with I Met a Girl, another great track.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about this song? Anything we

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should know about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, basically I wanted to do a sort of a

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more indie flavord song with the head guitars. Yeah, but

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I still wanted to have that sixties film, so it's

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almost like that the vocals and the words would be

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something to come out of Greece, you know, Grease the film, Yeah,

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from fifties and sixties, but it's got the up to date,

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grungy indie sound, so that's it. It's a combination of

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I really yeah, I get that. I really

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really like this. So we're going to hit that in

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a moment, but before we let you go. So, Neil,

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where should people go? Where are the best places to

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go online for our listeners who want to keep up

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with everything that you're doing and everything Delta High is

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up to.

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Speaker 2: I've got lots of videos and songs out on YouTube,

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so if you just look at YouTube and look up

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Delta High. Yeah, I've also all my music's on on

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the usual suspects like Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, but there's also

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websites Delta, dot High, dot co, dot uk ye which

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which is basically independent website, but it's it's on the

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all the usual digital channels. You can find the.

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Speaker 1: Music yeap, yeap, very easy to find, which is important

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of course. Yeah, but uh, all right, so we're gonna

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hit this track. I met a girl. We will let

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you go. Neil Jackson from Delta High. Thank you so

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much for joining us today and like I said, we'll

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definitely do this again in the future. And love what

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you're doing. And it's been great talking with you.

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Speaker 2: Great. Thank you very much for inviting me to the show.

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It means a great deal to us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, all right, we'll talk soon. Thanks Neil,

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Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye bye bye.

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Speaker 1: All right, that was Neil Jackson from Delta High and yeah,

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this is a great song. Check this out. This is

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called I Met a Girl and the band is Delta

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High