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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M. Six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>In about a half an hour, we'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>Diving into true crime Tuesday. Today, we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a woman here in California who claims that her dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a serial killer killed more than four hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media has lost its collective mind over this one.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll tell you all the details and a quick true

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<v Speaker 3>Crime Tuesday nugget. Also, it's just a tiny little story,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's about Jeffrey Dahmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it chocolate? Oh that sounded bad. It sounded I.

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<v Speaker 4>Should have waited until I said, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was even gonna be about Jeffrey. Think about chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awful. Oh my god, that was so awful. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>what else is going on? For the love of God?

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<v Speaker 4>Time four? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the fact that predominantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Black men were chosen as his victims.

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<v Speaker 1>Too awful person, God, that hit on so many unfortunate levels.

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<v Speaker 3>The Big News Vatican has reported that Pope Francis was

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<v Speaker 3>thankful that he was able to greet throngs of people

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<v Speaker 3>in Saint Peter Square on the Easter just before he passed.

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<v Speaker 3>The agency did report he initially had some doubts given

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<v Speaker 3>his poor health, but eventually made his way out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, he died yesterday at the age of eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>making his last public appearance on Sunday. They will hold

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<v Speaker 3>the funeral for Pope Frances coming up on Saturday. We

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<v Speaker 3>know the President Trump for Slady Milania, Trump and leaders

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<v Speaker 3>from around the world are expected to be at the Vatican.

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<v Speaker 1>The White House claims it is a smear campaign against

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Haig Seth and that the President Trump stands firmly

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<v Speaker 1>behind Pete Haig Seth, that the rumor that there was

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<v Speaker 1>some talk in the Oval about getting rid of him

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<v Speaker 1>is all just that a rumor. Stock sharply higher on

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street not because of that, but because Bloomberg reported

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<v Speaker 1>that sources say Treasury set Secretary Scott Assent told a

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<v Speaker 1>group of people investors that a trade war with China

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<v Speaker 1>is unsustainable. The Dow responded up over one thousand points

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<v Speaker 1>at times s and P five hundred, and the Nasdaq

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<v Speaker 1>both up over two percent as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court hurt some arguments today about the religious rights

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<v Speaker 3>of Maryland parents. They want to be able to take

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<v Speaker 3>their kids out of some elementary school classes that use

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<v Speaker 3>story books with LGBTQ themes or characters. The conservative majority

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<v Speaker 3>seem pretty likely to find that the county school system

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<v Speaker 3>could not require the kids sit through the lessons. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not asking that the school stop the lessons. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure they would enjoy that, but they're only asking for

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<v Speaker 3>the option to get their kids out of the classes

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<v Speaker 3>while those are being taught.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is Earth Day, the anniversary of the birth of

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental movement. How do you plan to honor Earth Day?

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<v Speaker 3>I will take my dog for a walk. I will

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<v Speaker 3>let him poop in the bushes nice, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>will leave it. Ah that I don't use a plastic bag, right,

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<v Speaker 3>fertilizer in a way that is look.

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<v Speaker 2>At you, Look at you.

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<v Speaker 4>Look given back.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you name your dog after Saint Peter?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's a connection there? Maybe subconsciously? Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I get there and he's like, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bro, I named a dog after you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, that's a pretty good pocket ace. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna look at this, Saint Peter. How about this one?

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<v Speaker 4>You need more than one. You sure do.

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<v Speaker 3>More than three months since Palisades Charter High School was

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<v Speaker 3>burned so severely in the Palisades Fire, and for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, more than twenty five hundred students and staff

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<v Speaker 3>back together this week in person at their new temporary home.

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<v Speaker 3>They're calling it Pally High South. This the school system

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<v Speaker 3>says that students who are not able to come in

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<v Speaker 3>person can move to the Virtual Academy program. The Old

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<v Speaker 3>Seers Building in Santa Monica is the home to this

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah three games on the NBA playoff schedule. Tonight, the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacers host the Bucks for Game two. Let's see a Thunder,

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<v Speaker 1>will attempt to take a tued and nothing series lead

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid going down two games to none when they

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<v Speaker 1>has been fined fifty thousand dollars by the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>If you missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday night, he was heckled by some fans and

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<v Speaker 1>he yelled back and at one point grabbed his genitals

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<v Speaker 1>and said, my d is bigger than yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you're not yours and I don't like you. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not supposed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He grabbed it twice? Why, I just watched the video.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty uh not down low?

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<v Speaker 3>How often did you watch the video twice? Just you

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<v Speaker 3>watched it twice to see him grab it twice. I

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<v Speaker 3>also have an sports update. I mentioned that you're awful

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<v Speaker 3>during You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to need more than one ace for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>At the beginning of the LA Kings playoff game against

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<v Speaker 3>on harmonica. Yeah, which I didn't. It didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Illustrated wrote it up this way. The LA Kings

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<v Speaker 3>the start of the game, as their choice to perform

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<v Speaker 3>the national anthem led to one of the most wholesome

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<v Speaker 3>moments of the hockey season.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this like a make a wish situation? Nope, my clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>The Kings had the harmonica class from the Korea Town

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<v Speaker 3>Senior and Community Center performed the anthem. The all harmonica

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<v Speaker 3>rendition of the Star Spangled banner was unique. It sounded

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<v Speaker 3>anything unlike anything we've heard before, And they said What

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<v Speaker 3>even made this even better was how the crowd got

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<v Speaker 3>into it and started singing the anthem, which I noticed

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<v Speaker 3>the anthem itself, I mean, the harmonicas actually kind of

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<v Speaker 3>get drowned out by the the people in the stands singing.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>What a beautiful moment that you shot upon.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no shade, no shooting upon it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just it didn't make sense because the harmonicas they did,

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<v Speaker 3>there was noation for.

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<v Speaker 2>And the crowd and the music and the little kid.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a suggestion that maybe the crowd was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to drown out the harmonical.

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<v Speaker 2>We were all wondering the same thing, why the harmonica is?

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<v Speaker 6>But then when the whole entire stadium started singing the

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<v Speaker 6>national anthem as loud as they could.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pumping up moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go, kings go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when is going now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when Carrie Underwood's music failed and everyone sang

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<v Speaker 1>with her at the inauguration.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a great moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a pumping up moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever something fails and the crowd takes up the national anthem,

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<v Speaker 1>or not even fails but just is moved, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>chilling It's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next we revisit this story. Timing is crucial for

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<v Speaker 3>parents when it comes to the sex talk. Are we

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<v Speaker 3>going to sing the national anthem as well? Crazy underneath

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<v Speaker 3>the sex talk?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>We guess I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, aren't you moved to sing for America?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 2>During the break, Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Bottom of the Hour will get into True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>One big story about this woman who claims that she's

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<v Speaker 3>a daughter of a serial killer that has people freaking

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<v Speaker 3>out of Somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have been nicer to their kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick quick, Jeffrey Jeffrey Jeffrey Dahmer. Also as part of

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk about the sex talk and

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<v Speaker 1>your comments about it. Wanted to get to this comment

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to kids spending their time with their grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>on their screens, Michael wrote to us. He says, my

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<v Speaker 1>grandma would sit in her chair, brown bagging cores, watching

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<v Speaker 1>the roller derby. She taught me how to sew, play cards, cook,

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<v Speaker 1>open doors for people, and most importantly, to help, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be to offer food, money, a rider stopping to

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my grandparents taught me how to open my home

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<v Speaker 3>to people. Yeah, they constantly had people living in My

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<v Speaker 3>parents reiterated that, but they.

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<v Speaker 2>Came yet here. I am not living in your home.

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<v Speaker 7>Hello, my dynamic duo, Gary and Shannon, you are the best.

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<v Speaker 6>Gary.

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<v Speaker 7>You may want to get ready to do the show

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<v Speaker 7>on your own because with all that energy Shannon has,

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<v Speaker 7>I think she should run from mayor thank me later.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>To call back to the old.

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<v Speaker 1>I my husband did say these words this morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say a prayer for Gary after asking about my

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<v Speaker 1>coffee consumption.

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<v Speaker 4>I thank him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think he said poor Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were talking about this study University of Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>Health c smat Children's Hospital, National Poll on Children's Health

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<v Speaker 3>just just talks about the importance of thisscussions about puberty,

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<v Speaker 3>discussions about sexual relationships with you know, having these conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with your kids early on. Obviously, Taylor taylor them to

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<v Speaker 3>the age level, to the knowledge level that they might have,

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<v Speaker 3>and be able to answer any questions about it. Parents

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<v Speaker 3>are about evenly split, thinking that it's best to start

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<v Speaker 3>talking about puberty before ten years old, at the age

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<v Speaker 3>of ten, or older than the age of ten. That's

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<v Speaker 3>almost split three, you know, third for each of those

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<v Speaker 3>reflects the uncertainty that a lot of people face about

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<v Speaker 3>the timing for a conversation like this.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Gary and Shannon, I was advised to tell my

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<v Speaker 8>child the story of the birds and bees.

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<v Speaker 4>When we were in the car.

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<v Speaker 8>I was driving, he was in the backseat. We were

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<v Speaker 8>both facing forward, and that's when I told him the story.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it worked out pretty well. He seemed to

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<v Speaker 8>already know a lot of what I was saying. He

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<v Speaker 8>was in great school, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, So you don't have to look your kid in

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<v Speaker 4>the face.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think that's a good tactic to like take

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<v Speaker 1>the stigma out of it, you know, don't make it

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<v Speaker 4>Don't make it so serious, right maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>My daddy took me for a ride and Bronco too

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<v Speaker 9>Little did he know, I've already lost my virginity.

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<v Speaker 2>In that Bronco.

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<v Speaker 6>Eleven maybe ten or eleven or twelve or something.

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<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Gary and Channon. So I have a son

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<v Speaker 4>Stuck together.

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<v Speaker 11>So I was loading my six year old sign I've

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<v Speaker 11>it's something too married people do when they really love

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<v Speaker 11>each other. He said, well, then why do Leonard and

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<v Speaker 11>Penny do it all the time they're not married?

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Leonard, it started Penny.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know who they are, but they they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>Was the last time you ran into a Leonard or

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<v Speaker 1>a Penny? I have an aunt Penny, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>I went high school with that big bang theory? Is

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that? Yes? You are right?

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<v Speaker 2>Good call that?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you grounding us in modern cult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're so domin old.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not mister Drummond and Ornold's from different strokes,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you God. I feel old now.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that like my ninety six year old

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<v Speaker 1>father in law would have known that because he loves

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<v Speaker 1>that show.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen zero episodes of that. I have seen zero.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really well done show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very well written, and there's a whole spin off,

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<v Speaker 3>The Young Sheldon Things that not as good.

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<v Speaker 9>Good Morning, Gary, Good Morning Show. I hate Michael Michael

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<v Speaker 9>the subject about telling your kids about sex. Back in

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<v Speaker 9>the seventies, because I'm sixty.

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<v Speaker 12>Now, there used to be a book that was really contrivated,

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<v Speaker 12>but it told the truth about sex, and it was

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<v Speaker 12>called Where Did I Come From?

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<v Speaker 9>About seventy five seventy six.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife has that book.

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<v Speaker 2>We had that in my home and my parents.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she said that it was like thrown on the

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<v Speaker 3>bed one day. Here you go, this is everything you

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<v Speaker 1>Contrivated Another fun word, Guys coming up with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun words today. What does it mean to be contrivated?

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<v Speaker 1>To do something that a law or rule does not allow,

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<v Speaker 1>to break a law or rule?

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<v Speaker 2>Contrivated?

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<v Speaker 4>I like that. That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 6>I told my daughter about the bird and the bees

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<v Speaker 6>right before she started sixth grade. Okay, I figured it

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<v Speaker 6>was better for it to come from me than from friends.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't go so well. She was hysterically crying and

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<v Speaker 6>was afraid that now that she had this information, it

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<v Speaker 6>was going to be part of her life and she'd

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<v Speaker 6>be obligated to partake.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, that's little ones.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That brings back a whole vibe because your friends with

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<v Speaker 1>the boys in your class, or at least you don't

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<v Speaker 1>until you know. And then you go into sixth grade

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<v Speaker 1>and you get that first talk and you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do what with rob G? You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? And you rob G, No, I just made

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<v Speaker 1>But you know sometimes, right, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's so funny. No, I just made it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh. And then suddenly you hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like I and and that's when you wall off

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<v Speaker 1>to just talking to girls. Like sixth grade, you're just like, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what's gonna happen. Absolutely not because you're not,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 4>It does not sound good, but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is important to know about it going into that time.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, when it comes down to the discussion of

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<v Speaker 7>you know, sex with your kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know. One thing that I don't think is

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<v Speaker 4>really taught to them.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't care who it is is.

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<v Speaker 5>Two is one, consequences in three responsibility not necessarily in

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<v Speaker 5>that order.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know that's what they need to be taught

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<v Speaker 4>first and.

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<v Speaker 1>More most they don't know what the what consequences and

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility are.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't learn that at all, much much.

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<v Speaker 13>Like your sex advice of talking to young kids. I

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<v Speaker 13>was a single mom of a boy and a girl.

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<v Speaker 13>The girl was easy. My son probably when he was

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<v Speaker 13>about thirteen. All I told him was no wet suit,

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<v Speaker 13>no diving, and he understood.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna start using that no for other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, for others, don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You want that Snickers bar, no wet suit, no diving.

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<v Speaker 3>True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 5>When we come back, you're listening to Gary and Shannon

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<v Speaker 5>on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's time for True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 11>The story is true, sounds true?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it sounds made up.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Garry and Shannon present crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you've got a Jeffrey Dahmer nugget. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>this woman's claim about her father being a serial killer

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<v Speaker 1>who has four hundred bodies in his wake. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get to jeopardy because it's true crime related?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh is it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I've waited so long?

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<v Speaker 1>The category is according to Blacks Law Dictionary for six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. Dictionary allowed in cross examination. It's a question

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<v Speaker 1>that suggests the answer to the person being interrogated.

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<v Speaker 4>So leading question.

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<v Speaker 2>You're damn right, it is objection.

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<v Speaker 4>Council's leading leading the witness. I'll allow it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on a finley fin leash shortly.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good, Oh here's the quick Jeffrey Dahmer story. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw this today. First of all, there are people who

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<v Speaker 3>are absolutely weird when it comes to I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if celebrating or honoring serial killers the roy would have

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<v Speaker 3>put it just acknowledging serial killers.

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<v Speaker 4>And they want to own the stuff of the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they buy up murder rebelia, whether it's evidence that

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<v Speaker 3>was originally used in a case, or posters about them,

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<v Speaker 3>or John Wayne Gacy's paintings, things like that. In this case,

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<v Speaker 3>David Adamovich is a doctor of education owner of the

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<v Speaker 3>website serial Killer murder Abilia. He picked up a pair

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<v Speaker 3>of vintage tipmas seven sorry tipmos Z eighty seven, five

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<v Speaker 3>and a half general style glasses that Jeffrey Dahmer wore,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said that he paid a lot amount a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of money for it. Didn't say how much, and

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<v Speaker 3>that he is one hundred percent convinced of the provenance

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<v Speaker 3>of these glasses, that they didn't change hands multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I've been sitting in the in this case

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<v Speaker 3>for over thirty years, and he says, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>series of lucky events. I was able to purchase them

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<v Speaker 3>and he has them now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>When he was interviewed about these glasses, he says, what's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting about them is that if you look closely under

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<v Speaker 3>the frames, so in the bottom of the glass, under

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<v Speaker 3>the frame here, he says, there's a reasonable amount of crud.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that is all around the glass. I'm disgusting again

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<v Speaker 4>quoting the doctor here.

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<v Speaker 3>My guess is that it isn't chocolate from the chocolate factory,

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<v Speaker 3>the Ambrosia chocolate factory where Jeffrey Dahmer worked. It is

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<v Speaker 3>probably a reasonable guest to say it was blood from

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<v Speaker 3>his victims.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea you worked at a chocolate factory

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<v Speaker 1>when you said chocolate, yeah, well just yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's disgusting, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you don't buy Jeffrey Dahmer's anything. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Oh, and imagine attention so much that you

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<v Speaker 1>buy Jeffrey Dahmer's glasses and then purport that they have

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<v Speaker 1>human matter on them just to get attention.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're if you're a law enforcement official, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a detective, if you're like a criminologist, if you're a

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<v Speaker 3>profile or something like that, and you study serial killers

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<v Speaker 3>and murderers, you do it because you want to try

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<v Speaker 3>to prevent it in the future, right, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>try to understand why people are doing it. Sure, what

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<v Speaker 3>is that guy doing? You're you're just getting weird stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and you're just gonna be weird.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, there was a woman about a month ago up

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<v Speaker 1>in Mendocino who shocked the Internet. She claimed, here's the quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the daughter of a serial killer. She posted

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<v Speaker 1>a black and white photograph of a square jawed man

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<v Speaker 1>sporting black rimmed glasses, a sports coat and a tie.

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<v Speaker 2>And they say that this evoked.

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<v Speaker 1>Memory of you know, dB Cooper or the Zodiac, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that type of sketch. She has in her in

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<v Speaker 1>her own estimation, a trove of evidence implicating her father

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<v Speaker 1>to the murders of four hundred people, from taped confessions,

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<v Speaker 1>supposed burial sites to sadistic personal journal entries. She claims,

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<v Speaker 1>despite all this evidence, the cops are ignoring the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is I want to read through this post

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<v Speaker 3>that she put up the middle of March, so the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of last month on Facebook. Galina Trefel is her

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<v Speaker 3>name for so many years. This is again her words

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<v Speaker 3>for so many years now, I've lived a double life,

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<v Speaker 3>carried an impossible secret. This is not a joke. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the cold reality which has been strictly on a

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<v Speaker 3>need to know basis. Now everyone needs to know. I

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<v Speaker 3>am the daughter of a serial killer who knew the

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<v Speaker 3>identities of two other uncaught serial sex killers, Michael Freese

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<v Speaker 3>and Julius dre Hauser. Doctor John Charles Trefil. My father

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<v Speaker 3>has admitted for almost a decade giving a consistent story

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<v Speaker 3>to being a serial killer on tape graphically, Police Department,

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff's Department, Mendosino County DA's office. They are all aware

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<v Speaker 3>of his concession confessions. This is the secret that the

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<v Speaker 3>authorities in Mendocino County are not sharing with the public.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes on a whole list of things and times

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<v Speaker 3>that he described two law enforcement officers and detectives or

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<v Speaker 3>in those diaries that you refer to from killings that

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<v Speaker 3>started in the fifties and may have gone all the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Until nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be noted that this woman is a published

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<v Speaker 1>horror writer. Yes, that post that you read was on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>It was posted on March thirteenth, so just over a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago. Since then, it's been shared over sixteen thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's prompted more than five and comments. Oh and the

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<v Speaker 1>Mendocino County Sheriff's Office has weighed in as well. They

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<v Speaker 1>say they've conducted an extensive investigation of this woman's claims,

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<v Speaker 1>hours of interviews with her father, cross referencing his DNA

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<v Speaker 1>with the cold case database that have led detectives to

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<v Speaker 1>one conclusion. There's no evidence John Trafel has killed anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone hundreds of people.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't stop her from going through with copious

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<v Speaker 3>amounts of evidence. And we'll talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that she has posted again about her own father,

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<v Speaker 3>who's still alive.

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<v Speaker 4>He's eighty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and here's the thing in her narrative of this,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no discrimination ace race, gender, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>a go to murder weapon Strict nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in the midst of True Crime Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a woman who went on Facebook last

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<v Speaker 1>month and made a shock and claim that her father

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<v Speaker 1>was a serial killer and that he was guilty of killing.

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<v Speaker 2>About four hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>She claimed that she had evidence, taped confessions, burial sites,

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<v Speaker 1>personal journal entries, overwhelming evidence in her estimation. And the

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<v Speaker 1>cops say, listen, we've interviewed the father, We've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>as DNA, we've checked it against the database.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no evidence of any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dad John Treffle, Doctor John Treffle was a psychiatrist,

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<v Speaker 3>and the daughter claims that he was once working at

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<v Speaker 3>a San Francisco hospital and at the jail in Lake

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<v Speaker 3>County up in northern California, the latter of which is

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<v Speaker 3>corroborated by some of the newspaper reports at the time

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen eighty three that refer to a psychiatrist, nam

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<v Speaker 3>John tres that worked at that facility. What they know

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<v Speaker 3>is that he did run a private practice in Mendocino

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<v Speaker 3>County and Lake County until nineteen ninety nine. And according

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<v Speaker 3>to state records, he surrendered his medical license in ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine after some allegations were levered against him, leveled against

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<v Speaker 3>him by the executive director of the medical board that

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<v Speaker 3>he had made romantic advances toward one of his patients,

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<v Speaker 3>forty one year old patient.

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<v Speaker 1>She claims that his hunting grounds when active, stretched across

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<v Speaker 1>the country from Illinois and Virginia to California, Oregon, Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>that he took his crimes international Canada, France, Netherlands, that

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<v Speaker 1>he had maintained murder cabins Mendocino County, one of them

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed the Tomb, where sixteen women and two men were

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly buried. She says she her father confessed to her

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<v Speaker 1>to being a killer around twenty fifteen, the same time

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<v Speaker 1>he reportedly began showing signs of Parkinson's.

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<v Speaker 2>He's married, by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, yeah, and when you ask the wife, when you

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<v Speaker 3>ask Candy Treffle, they've been married for forty plus years.

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<v Speaker 3>If her husband is a serial killer, she says absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, the craziness is that the daughter has this incredible

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<v Speaker 3>story about her father. She denies that her dad ever

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<v Speaker 3>had Parkinson's and says that he is healthy, that he

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<v Speaker 3>is lucid again, he's alive, He's eighty six years old,

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<v Speaker 3>And she said the neurologist actually put it in writing

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<v Speaker 3>that no, he does not have Parkinson's all the way

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<v Speaker 3>back in twenty fifteen, but when asked to provide such documentation,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She and a victim's advocate have twice a week for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a year, gone to his skilled nursing facility and

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<v Speaker 1>taped him talking about all of this. I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he knew he was being recorded. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's neither here nor there who cares. But she

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<v Speaker 1>said that she contrasted her efforts to document her father's

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<v Speaker 1>alleged crimes with those of local law enforcement, who, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>refused to talk to him for a decade while he

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<v Speaker 1>described torturing and sexually assaulting young women, they refuse.

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<v Speaker 2>To do their job. The sheriff up there disagrees.

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<v Speaker 1>He says that a couple of years ago, investigators got

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on recordings of the nursing home conversations, the

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<v Speaker 1>journals and all of that, And he explained that that

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<v Speaker 1>victim advocate posed as a documentary filmmaker digging into this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's crimes a ruse, but that after nearly ten hours

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<v Speaker 1>of footage nothing solid emerged.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of it was because he doctor John was mumbling

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<v Speaker 3>through these responses. I mean, he's eighty six years old.

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<v Speaker 3>If he has Parkinson's or has had Parkinson's for ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he probably is not very communetive. And the

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<v Speaker 3>sheriff said, isn't it strange that Galina, the daughter, is

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<v Speaker 3>the only person who speaks Dad that his detectives did

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<v Speaker 3>interrogate doctor John Trevel through a proxy rather than their

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<v Speaker 3>own detectives, adding the interrogation didn't have anything conclusive, no

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<v Speaker 3>evidence of any wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>They went to all of those sites, those murder cabins

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<v Speaker 1>and the things we talked about. He said, none of

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<v Speaker 1>those things produced any leads. They didn't find any victims

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<v Speaker 1>buried there. She also claims her father was behind a

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<v Speaker 1>specific cold case from nineteen seventy four, one that the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff confirmed had DNA evidence associated with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Investigators did get a warrant to test the dad's DNA

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<v Speaker 3>to test the daughter's story, but there wasn't a match.

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<v Speaker 3>The DNA went into cotis the Combined DNA Index System,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the National Crime Database. And despite the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the daughter says that her dad is the most

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<v Speaker 3>prolific series He'll kill her in American history, North American history,

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<v Speaker 3>with bodies all over the place, not one hit on

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<v Speaker 3>any unsolved case in codis now you mentioned that the

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<v Speaker 3>murder weapon, the specific weapon that she believes that her

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<v Speaker 3>dad used, was poison. That that was the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>he was able to use over and over again. In

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<v Speaker 3>one post, she shared a photo of a weathered, antique

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<v Speaker 3>little bottle that just literally has the word poison on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it says strychnine. Also, she says that her

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<v Speaker 3>dad kept that STRYC nine in his medicine bag. But

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<v Speaker 3>you and I could buy a bottle or empty, I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>But you and I could buy a bottle of strychnine

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<v Speaker 3>labeled poison like that off of eBay. Sure, so none

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<v Speaker 3>of that is a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of her allegations are tied to specific landmarks up

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<v Speaker 1>in northern California. She insists her father buried victims along

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<v Speaker 1>the winding thirteen Curves stretch of Highway twenty in Medicino County.

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<v Speaker 1>Very hyper specific if you know the area, they say

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<v Speaker 1>it adds of an ear of credibility for the amateur

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<v Speaker 1>detectives who have been following her posts, and my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't they in troves?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>This is I mean, this narrative that she has about

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<v Speaker 3>her dad being a serial killer takes place in a

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<v Speaker 3>very rural area where that top left quarter of California.

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<v Speaker 3>The coast there is beautiful, but it's also home to

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<v Speaker 3>all kinds of missing persons and unsolved murders. And they

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<v Speaker 3>talk about I Think It's Death Mountain was a documentary

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<v Speaker 3>that came out several years ago about the unregulated cannabis

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<v Speaker 3>economy that is trying to be regulated and how dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>that thing has been for the last quarter three quarters

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<v Speaker 3>of a century, leaving behind buried bodies. And her story

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<v Speaker 3>fits very well with the dark past of that area.

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<v Speaker 3>And she claims that her dad confessed to the Santa

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<v Speaker 3>Rosa hitchhiker murders and even at one point admitted that

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<v Speaker 3>he was the Zodiac Killer. But remember this, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>she is a horror author, and she told San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicle that's true. I know that people won't want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear that, but and this is the key for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a horribly abusive childhood, and that's how I vent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nos, I was going to say, what was the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>like between this woman and her parents? Her mother, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, who I wanted to hear more from, because

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's only quote in his story up until now was

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a serious absolutely not when asked was your

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<v Speaker 1>husband or is your husband a serial killer? Mom went

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<v Speaker 1>on to say that the daughters creating the story about

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<v Speaker 1>her father because she likes attention more than most. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very sad, too bad. Call your parents all your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>give them a hug, tell them you love them.

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<v Speaker 4>Do all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe talk about sex, depending on what's how old they

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<v Speaker 3>are and if they know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, I don't know. I'm not getting into that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw who you were talking about earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Oh yeah, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>You're right?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't know, but I didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>To say anything, did I?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, Carl Demayo? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>In for John Cobelt, I'll be a treat. We'll see

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<v Speaker 4>you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show, you

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