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Speaker 1: Diving into true crime Tuesday. Today, we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: a woman here in California who claims that her dad
Speaker 1: was a serial killer killed more than four hundred people.
Speaker 1: Social media has lost its collective mind over this one.
Speaker 3: We'll tell you all the details and a quick true
Speaker 3: Crime Tuesday nugget. Also, it's just a tiny little story,
Speaker 3: but it's about Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 2: Is it chocolate? Oh that sounded bad. It sounded I.
Speaker 4: Should have waited until I said, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: It was even gonna be about Jeffrey. Think about chocolate.
Speaker 2: That's awful. Oh my god, that was so awful. Please,
Speaker 2: what else is going on? For the love of God?
Speaker 4: Time four? What's happening?
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that predominantly.
Speaker 3: Black men were chosen as his victims.
Speaker 1: Too awful person, God, that hit on so many unfortunate levels.
Speaker 3: The Big News Vatican has reported that Pope Francis was
Speaker 3: thankful that he was able to greet throngs of people
Speaker 3: in Saint Peter Square on the Easter just before he passed.
Speaker 3: The agency did report he initially had some doubts given
Speaker 3: his poor health, but eventually made his way out there.
Speaker 3: Of course, he died yesterday at the age of eighty eight,
Speaker 3: making his last public appearance on Sunday. They will hold
Speaker 3: the funeral for Pope Frances coming up on Saturday. We
Speaker 3: know the President Trump for Slady Milania, Trump and leaders
Speaker 3: from around the world are expected to be at the Vatican.
Speaker 1: The White House claims it is a smear campaign against
Speaker 1: Pete Haig Seth and that the President Trump stands firmly
Speaker 1: behind Pete Haig Seth, that the rumor that there was
Speaker 1: some talk in the Oval about getting rid of him
Speaker 1: is all just that a rumor. Stock sharply higher on
Speaker 1: Wall Street not because of that, but because Bloomberg reported
Speaker 1: that sources say Treasury set Secretary Scott Assent told a
Speaker 1: group of people investors that a trade war with China
Speaker 1: is unsustainable. The Dow responded up over one thousand points
Speaker 1: at times s and P five hundred, and the Nasdaq
Speaker 1: both up over two percent as well.
Speaker 3: Supreme Court hurt some arguments today about the religious rights
Speaker 3: of Maryland parents. They want to be able to take
Speaker 3: their kids out of some elementary school classes that use
Speaker 3: story books with LGBTQ themes or characters. The conservative majority
Speaker 3: seem pretty likely to find that the county school system
Speaker 3: could not require the kids sit through the lessons. Now,
Speaker 3: they're not asking that the school stop the lessons. I'm
Speaker 3: sure they would enjoy that, but they're only asking for
Speaker 3: the option to get their kids out of the classes
Speaker 3: while those are being taught.
Speaker 1: Today is Earth Day, the anniversary of the birth of
Speaker 1: the environmental movement. How do you plan to honor Earth Day?
Speaker 3: I will take my dog for a walk. I will
Speaker 3: let him poop in the bushes nice, and then I
Speaker 3: will leave it. Ah that I don't use a plastic bag, right,
Speaker 3: fertilizer in a way that is look.
Speaker 2: At you, Look at you.
Speaker 4: Look given back.
Speaker 2: Did you name your dog after Saint Peter?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a connection there? Maybe subconsciously? Like
Speaker 1: when I get there and he's like, what did you do?
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I named a dog after you. Yes,
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's a pretty good pocket ace. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at this, Saint Peter. How about this one?
Speaker 4: You need more than one. You sure do.
Speaker 3: More than three months since Palisades Charter High School was
Speaker 3: burned so severely in the Palisades Fire, and for the
Speaker 3: first time, more than twenty five hundred students and staff
Speaker 3: back together this week in person at their new temporary home.
Speaker 3: They're calling it Pally High South. This the school system
Speaker 3: says that students who are not able to come in
Speaker 3: person can move to the Virtual Academy program. The Old
Speaker 3: Seers Building in Santa Monica is the home to this
Speaker 3: temporary campus.
Speaker 1: Yeah three games on the NBA playoff schedule. Tonight, the
Speaker 1: Pacers host the Bucks for Game two. Let's see a Thunder,
Speaker 1: will attempt to take a tued and nothing series lead
Speaker 1: when they welcome Memphis, and then tonight the Lakers try
Speaker 1: to avoid going down two games to none when they
Speaker 1: play the Minnesota Timberwolves. In other series news, Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: has been fined fifty thousand dollars by the NBA.
Speaker 2: If you missed it.
Speaker 1: On Saturday night, he was heckled by some fans and
Speaker 1: he yelled back and at one point grabbed his genitals
Speaker 1: and said, my d is bigger than yours.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're not yours and I don't like you. You're
Speaker 4: not supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: He grabbed it twice? Why, I just watched the video.
Speaker 1: It was pretty uh not down low?
Speaker 3: How often did you watch the video twice? Just you
Speaker 3: watched it twice to see him grab it twice. I
Speaker 3: also have an sports update. I mentioned that you're awful
Speaker 3: during You're.
Speaker 2: Going to need more than one ace for sure.
Speaker 3: At the beginning of the LA Kings playoff game against
Speaker 3: the Edmonton Oilers last night, the national anthem was played
Speaker 3: on harmonica. Yeah, which I didn't. It didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated wrote it up this way. The LA Kings
Speaker 3: kicked off their postseason with a win at home over
Speaker 3: the Oilers, but they also got a huge win before
Speaker 3: the start of the game, as their choice to perform
Speaker 3: the national anthem led to one of the most wholesome
Speaker 3: moments of the hockey season.
Speaker 2: Was this like a make a wish situation? Nope, my clothes.
Speaker 3: The Kings had the harmonica class from the Korea Town
Speaker 3: Senior and Community Center performed the anthem. The all harmonica
Speaker 3: rendition of the Star Spangled banner was unique. It sounded
Speaker 3: anything unlike anything we've heard before, And they said What
Speaker 3: even made this even better was how the crowd got
Speaker 3: into it and started singing the anthem, which I noticed
Speaker 3: the anthem itself, I mean, the harmonicas actually kind of
Speaker 3: get drowned out by the the people in the stands singing.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 2: What a beautiful moment that you shot upon.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no shade, no shooting upon it. I
Speaker 3: just it didn't make sense because the harmonicas they did,
Speaker 3: there was noation for.
Speaker 2: And the crowd and the music and the little kid.
Speaker 3: There was a suggestion that maybe the crowd was trying
Speaker 3: to drown out the harmonical.
Speaker 2: We were all wondering the same thing, why the harmonica is?
Speaker 6: But then when the whole entire stadium started singing the
Speaker 6: national anthem as loud as they could.
Speaker 2: It was a pumping up moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go, kings go.
Speaker 2: It's like when is going now.
Speaker 1: It's like when Carrie Underwood's music failed and everyone sang
Speaker 1: with her at the inauguration.
Speaker 2: That was a great moment.
Speaker 4: It was a pumping up moment.
Speaker 1: Whenever something fails and the crowd takes up the national anthem,
Speaker 1: or not even fails but just is moved, it's it's
Speaker 1: chilling It's wonderful.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Up next we revisit this story. Timing is crucial for
Speaker 3: parents when it comes to the sex talk. Are we
Speaker 3: going to sing the national anthem as well? Crazy underneath
Speaker 3: the sex talk?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: We guess I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, aren't you moved to sing for America?
Speaker 4: Yes? I'll do it.
Speaker 2: During the break, Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 3: One big story about this woman who claims that she's
Speaker 3: a daughter of a serial killer that has people freaking
Speaker 3: out of Somebody.
Speaker 2: Should have been nicer to their kid.
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Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the sex talk and
Speaker 1: your comments about it. Wanted to get to this comment
Speaker 1: with regard to kids spending their time with their grandparents
Speaker 1: on their screens, Michael wrote to us. He says, my
Speaker 1: grandma would sit in her chair, brown bagging cores, watching
Speaker 1: the roller derby. She taught me how to sew, play cards, cook,
Speaker 1: open doors for people, and most importantly, to help, whether
Speaker 1: it be to offer food, money, a rider stopping to
Speaker 1: help someone on the road.
Speaker 3: Yes, my grandparents taught me how to open my home
Speaker 3: to people. Yeah, they constantly had people living in My
Speaker 3: parents reiterated that, but they.
Speaker 2: Came yet here. I am not living in your home.
Speaker 7: Hello, my dynamic duo, Gary and Shannon, you are the best.
Speaker 6: Gary.
Speaker 7: You may want to get ready to do the show
Speaker 7: on your own because with all that energy Shannon has,
Speaker 7: I think she should run from mayor thank me later.
Speaker 2: I love you guys.
Speaker 4: To call back to the old.
Speaker 1: I my husband did say these words this morning. I
Speaker 1: will say a prayer for Gary after asking about my
Speaker 1: coffee consumption.
Speaker 4: I thank him.
Speaker 2: No, I think he said poor Gary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about this study University of Michigan
Speaker 3: Health c smat Children's Hospital, National Poll on Children's Health
Speaker 3: just just talks about the importance of thisscussions about puberty,
Speaker 3: discussions about sexual relationships with you know, having these conversations
Speaker 3: with your kids early on. Obviously, Taylor taylor them to
Speaker 3: the age level, to the knowledge level that they might have,
Speaker 3: and be able to answer any questions about it. Parents
Speaker 3: are about evenly split, thinking that it's best to start
Speaker 3: talking about puberty before ten years old, at the age
Speaker 3: of ten, or older than the age of ten. That's
Speaker 3: almost split three, you know, third for each of those
Speaker 3: reflects the uncertainty that a lot of people face about
Speaker 3: the timing for a conversation like this.
Speaker 8: Hey, Gary and Shannon, I was advised to tell my
Speaker 8: child the story of the birds and bees.
Speaker 4: When we were in the car.
Speaker 8: I was driving, he was in the backseat. We were
Speaker 8: both facing forward, and that's when I told him the story.
Speaker 8: I think it worked out pretty well. He seemed to
Speaker 8: already know a lot of what I was saying. He
Speaker 8: was in great school, all right.
Speaker 4: Interesting, So you don't have to look your kid in
Speaker 4: the face.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's a good tactic to like take
Speaker 1: the stigma out of it, you know, don't make it
Speaker 1: like it's a big deal.
Speaker 4: Don't make it so serious, right maybe.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know your kid best, you know what's
Speaker 1: gonna work the best for that particular child.
Speaker 5: My daddy took me for a ride and Bronco too
Speaker 5: asked me if I knew what a condom was and
Speaker 5: if I'd ever had six, and I told him no.
Speaker 9: Little did he know, I've already lost my virginity.
Speaker 2: In that Bronco.
Speaker 6: Eleven maybe ten or eleven or twelve or something.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, in the Bronco you think, I think in
Speaker 2: the Bronco why not?
Speaker 10: Good morning, Gary and Channon. So I have a son
Speaker 10: and a daughter. They're in their twenties now. But when
Speaker 10: they were younger, we had two dogs that were not fixed,
Speaker 10: and it was a male and a female and they
Speaker 10: would mate or you know, get down, and that was
Speaker 10: a little bit of a lesson for them. But then
Speaker 10: when they got stuck together and my daughter started like
Speaker 10: screaming and crying, so that probably ruined her for life.
Speaker 4: Stuck together.
Speaker 11: So I was loading my six year old sign I've
Speaker 11: been in his car seat after swimming lessons and he
Speaker 11: comes off with Dad, what sex? And I tell him
Speaker 11: it's something too married people do when they really love
Speaker 11: each other. He said, well, then why do Leonard and
Speaker 11: Penny do it all the time they're not married?
Speaker 2: There you go, Leonard, it started Penny.
Speaker 4: I don't know who they are, but they they're getting
Speaker 4: it on.
Speaker 1: Was the last time you ran into a Leonard or
Speaker 1: a Penny? I have an aunt Penny, I have a
Speaker 1: friend Penny.
Speaker 2: I went high school with that big bang theory? Is
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 4: Oh that? Yes? You are right?
Speaker 2: Good call that?
Speaker 3: Thank you grounding us in modern cult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so domin old.
Speaker 3: If it's not mister Drummond and Ornold's from different strokes,
Speaker 3: we pretty much don't get it.
Speaker 4: Thank you God. I feel old now.
Speaker 1: I will say that like my ninety six year old
Speaker 1: father in law would have known that because he loves
Speaker 1: that show.
Speaker 4: I have seen zero episodes of that. I have seen zero.
Speaker 2: It's a really well done show.
Speaker 3: It's very well written, and there's a whole spin off,
Speaker 3: The Young Sheldon Things that not as good.
Speaker 9: Good Morning, Gary, Good Morning Show. I hate Michael Michael
Speaker 9: the subject about telling your kids about sex. Back in
Speaker 9: the seventies, because I'm sixty.
Speaker 12: Now, there used to be a book that was really contrivated,
Speaker 12: but it told the truth about sex, and it was
Speaker 12: called Where Did I Come From?
Speaker 9: About seventy five seventy six.
Speaker 4: My wife has that book.
Speaker 2: We had that in my home and my parents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she said that it was like thrown on the
Speaker 3: bed one day. Here you go, this is everything you
Speaker 3: need to know.
Speaker 1: Contrivated Another fun word, Guys coming up with a lot
Speaker 1: of fun words today. What does it mean to be contrivated?
Speaker 1: To do something that a law or rule does not allow,
Speaker 1: to break a law or rule?
Speaker 2: Contrivated?
Speaker 4: I like that. That's a great one.
Speaker 6: I told my daughter about the bird and the bees
Speaker 6: right before she started sixth grade. Okay, I figured it
Speaker 6: was better for it to come from me than from friends.
Speaker 6: It didn't go so well. She was hysterically crying and
Speaker 6: was afraid that now that she had this information, it
Speaker 6: was going to be part of her life and she'd
Speaker 6: be obligated to partake.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's little ones.
Speaker 6: They don't get it.
Speaker 1: That brings back a whole vibe because your friends with
Speaker 1: the boys in your class, or at least you don't
Speaker 1: look at them as a threat or anything like that
Speaker 1: until you know. And then you go into sixth grade
Speaker 1: and you get that first talk and you're like.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what with rob G? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And you rob G, No, I just made
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 1: But you know sometimes, right, that's so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so funny. No, I just made it up.
Speaker 2: But uh. And then suddenly you hate them.
Speaker 1: You're like I and and that's when you wall off
Speaker 1: to just talking to girls. Like sixth grade, you're just like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: if that's what's gonna happen. Absolutely not because you're not,
Speaker 1: because you're not ready for it.
Speaker 2: You're twelve years old.
Speaker 4: It does not sound good, but it.
Speaker 1: Is important to know about it going into that time.
Speaker 7: You know, when it comes down to the discussion of
Speaker 7: you know, sex with your kids.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know. One thing that I don't think is
Speaker 4: really taught to them.
Speaker 11: I don't care who it is is.
Speaker 5: Two is one, consequences in three responsibility not necessarily in
Speaker 5: that order.
Speaker 4: But you know that's what they need to be taught
Speaker 4: first and.
Speaker 1: More most they don't know what the what consequences and
Speaker 1: responsibility are.
Speaker 4: You don't learn that at all, much much.
Speaker 13: Like your sex advice of talking to young kids. I
Speaker 13: was a single mom of a boy and a girl.
Speaker 13: The girl was easy. My son probably when he was
Speaker 13: about thirteen. All I told him was no wet suit,
Speaker 13: no diving, and he understood.
Speaker 4: That's one way to put it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna start using that no for other things.
Speaker 1: Don't know, for others, don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You want that Snickers bar, no wet suit, no diving.
Speaker 3: True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 5: When we come back, you're listening to Gary and Shannon
Speaker 5: on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3: Well, it's time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 11: The story is true, sounds true?
Speaker 2: No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Garry and Shannon present crime.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've got a Jeffrey Dahmer nugget. We do have
Speaker 1: this woman's claim about her father being a serial killer
Speaker 1: who has four hundred bodies in his wake. But first,
Speaker 1: can we get to jeopardy because it's true crime related?
Speaker 4: Oh is it?
Speaker 2: That's why I've waited so long?
Speaker 1: The category is according to Blacks Law Dictionary for six
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Dictionary allowed in cross examination. It's a question
Speaker 1: that suggests the answer to the person being interrogated.
Speaker 4: So leading question.
Speaker 2: You're damn right, it is objection.
Speaker 4: Council's leading leading the witness. I'll allow it, but.
Speaker 2: You're on a finley fin leash shortly.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, Oh here's the quick Jeffrey Dahmer story. I
Speaker 3: saw this today. First of all, there are people who
Speaker 3: are absolutely weird when it comes to I don't know
Speaker 3: if celebrating or honoring serial killers the roy would have
Speaker 3: put it just acknowledging serial killers.
Speaker 4: And they want to own the stuff of the stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they buy up murder rebelia, whether it's evidence that
Speaker 3: was originally used in a case, or posters about them,
Speaker 3: or John Wayne Gacy's paintings, things like that. In this case,
Speaker 3: David Adamovich is a doctor of education owner of the
Speaker 3: website serial Killer murder Abilia. He picked up a pair
Speaker 3: of vintage tipmas seven sorry tipmos Z eighty seven, five
Speaker 3: and a half general style glasses that Jeffrey Dahmer wore,
Speaker 3: and he said that he paid a lot amount a
Speaker 3: lot of money for it. Didn't say how much, and
Speaker 3: that he is one hundred percent convinced of the provenance
Speaker 3: of these glasses, that they didn't change hands multiple times.
Speaker 3: He said, I've been sitting in the in this case
Speaker 3: for over thirty years, and he says, this is a
Speaker 3: series of lucky events. I was able to purchase them
Speaker 3: and he has them now.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: When he was interviewed about these glasses, he says, what's
Speaker 3: interesting about them is that if you look closely under
Speaker 3: the frames, so in the bottom of the glass, under
Speaker 3: the frame here, he says, there's a reasonable amount of crud.
Speaker 4: Oh, that is all around the glass. I'm disgusting again
Speaker 4: quoting the doctor here.
Speaker 3: My guess is that it isn't chocolate from the chocolate factory,
Speaker 3: the Ambrosia chocolate factory where Jeffrey Dahmer worked. It is
Speaker 3: probably a reasonable guest to say it was blood from
Speaker 3: his victims.
Speaker 1: I had no idea you worked at a chocolate factory
Speaker 1: when you said chocolate, yeah, well just yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, it's awful.
Speaker 1: That's why you don't buy Jeffrey Dahmer's anything. No, no,
Speaker 1: all right, Oh, and imagine attention so much that you
Speaker 1: buy Jeffrey Dahmer's glasses and then purport that they have
Speaker 1: human matter on them just to get attention.
Speaker 3: If you're if you're a law enforcement official, if you're
Speaker 3: a detective, if you're like a criminologist, if you're a
Speaker 3: profile or something like that, and you study serial killers
Speaker 3: and murderers, you do it because you want to try
Speaker 3: to prevent it in the future, right, or at least
Speaker 3: try to understand why people are doing it. Sure, what
Speaker 3: is that guy doing? You're you're just getting weird stuff
Speaker 3: and you're just gonna be weird.
Speaker 2: The whole time.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: So, there was a woman about a month ago up
Speaker 1: in Mendocino who shocked the Internet. She claimed, here's the quote,
Speaker 1: I am the daughter of a serial killer. She posted
Speaker 1: a black and white photograph of a square jawed man
Speaker 1: sporting black rimmed glasses, a sports coat and a tie.
Speaker 2: And they say that this evoked.
Speaker 1: Memory of you know, dB Cooper or the Zodiac, kind
Speaker 1: of that type of sketch. She has in her in
Speaker 1: her own estimation, a trove of evidence implicating her father
Speaker 1: to the murders of four hundred people, from taped confessions,
Speaker 1: supposed burial sites to sadistic personal journal entries. She claims,
Speaker 1: despite all this evidence, the cops are ignoring the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I want to read through this post
Speaker 3: that she put up the middle of March, so the
Speaker 3: middle of last month on Facebook. Galina Trefel is her
Speaker 3: name for so many years. This is again her words
Speaker 3: for so many years now, I've lived a double life,
Speaker 3: carried an impossible secret. This is not a joke. This
Speaker 3: is the cold reality which has been strictly on a
Speaker 3: need to know basis. Now everyone needs to know. I
Speaker 3: am the daughter of a serial killer who knew the
Speaker 3: identities of two other uncaught serial sex killers, Michael Freese
Speaker 3: and Julius dre Hauser. Doctor John Charles Trefil. My father
Speaker 3: has admitted for almost a decade giving a consistent story
Speaker 3: to being a serial killer on tape graphically, Police Department,
Speaker 3: Sheriff's Department, Mendosino County DA's office. They are all aware
Speaker 3: of his concession confessions. This is the secret that the
Speaker 3: authorities in Mendocino County are not sharing with the public.
Speaker 3: She goes on a whole list of things and times
Speaker 3: that he described two law enforcement officers and detectives or
Speaker 3: in those diaries that you refer to from killings that
Speaker 3: started in the fifties and may have gone all the way.
Speaker 4: Until nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: It should be noted that this woman is a published
Speaker 1: horror writer. Yes, that post that you read was on Facebook.
Speaker 1: It was posted on March thirteenth, so just over a
Speaker 1: month ago. Since then, it's been shared over sixteen thousand times.
Speaker 1: It's prompted more than five and comments. Oh and the
Speaker 1: Mendocino County Sheriff's Office has weighed in as well. They
Speaker 1: say they've conducted an extensive investigation of this woman's claims,
Speaker 1: hours of interviews with her father, cross referencing his DNA
Speaker 1: with the cold case database that have led detectives to
Speaker 1: one conclusion. There's no evidence John Trafel has killed anyone,
Speaker 1: let alone hundreds of people.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't stop her from going through with copious
Speaker 3: amounts of evidence. And we'll talk about some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that she has posted again about her own father,
Speaker 3: who's still alive.
Speaker 4: He's eighty six years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the thing in her narrative of this,
Speaker 1: there was no discrimination ace race, gender, and he had
Speaker 1: a go to murder weapon Strict nine.
Speaker 4: Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 1: We are in the midst of True Crime Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about a woman who went on Facebook last
Speaker 1: month and made a shock and claim that her father
Speaker 1: was a serial killer and that he was guilty of killing.
Speaker 2: About four hundred people.
Speaker 1: She claimed that she had evidence, taped confessions, burial sites,
Speaker 1: personal journal entries, overwhelming evidence in her estimation. And the
Speaker 1: cops say, listen, we've interviewed the father, We've gone through
Speaker 1: as DNA, we've checked it against the database.
Speaker 2: There's no evidence of any of this.
Speaker 3: So Dad John Treffle, Doctor John Treffle was a psychiatrist,
Speaker 3: and the daughter claims that he was once working at
Speaker 3: a San Francisco hospital and at the jail in Lake
Speaker 3: County up in northern California, the latter of which is
Speaker 3: corroborated by some of the newspaper reports at the time
Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty three that refer to a psychiatrist, nam
Speaker 3: John tres that worked at that facility. What they know
Speaker 3: is that he did run a private practice in Mendocino
Speaker 3: County and Lake County until nineteen ninety nine. And according
Speaker 3: to state records, he surrendered his medical license in ninety
Speaker 3: nine after some allegations were levered against him, leveled against
Speaker 3: him by the executive director of the medical board that
Speaker 3: he had made romantic advances toward one of his patients,
Speaker 3: forty one year old patient.
Speaker 1: She claims that his hunting grounds when active, stretched across
Speaker 1: the country from Illinois and Virginia to California, Oregon, Idaho,
Speaker 1: that he took his crimes international Canada, France, Netherlands, that
Speaker 1: he had maintained murder cabins Mendocino County, one of them
Speaker 1: dubbed the Tomb, where sixteen women and two men were
Speaker 1: allegedly buried. She says she her father confessed to her
Speaker 1: to being a killer around twenty fifteen, the same time
Speaker 1: he reportedly began showing signs of Parkinson's.
Speaker 2: He's married, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, yeah, and when you ask the wife, when you
Speaker 3: ask Candy Treffle, they've been married for forty plus years.
Speaker 3: If her husband is a serial killer, she says absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Again, the craziness is that the daughter has this incredible
Speaker 3: story about her father. She denies that her dad ever
Speaker 3: had Parkinson's and says that he is healthy, that he
Speaker 3: is lucid again, he's alive, He's eighty six years old,
Speaker 3: And she said the neurologist actually put it in writing
Speaker 3: that no, he does not have Parkinson's all the way
Speaker 3: back in twenty fifteen, but when asked to provide such documentation,
Speaker 3: she didn't.
Speaker 1: She and a victim's advocate have twice a week for
Speaker 1: nearly a year, gone to his skilled nursing facility and
Speaker 1: taped him talking about all of this. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't know if he knew he was being recorded. I
Speaker 1: think that's neither here nor there who cares. But she
Speaker 1: said that she contrasted her efforts to document her father's
Speaker 1: alleged crimes with those of local law enforcement, who, she said,
Speaker 1: refused to talk to him for a decade while he
Speaker 1: described torturing and sexually assaulting young women, they refuse.
Speaker 2: To do their job. The sheriff up there disagrees.
Speaker 1: He says that a couple of years ago, investigators got
Speaker 1: their hands on recordings of the nursing home conversations, the
Speaker 1: journals and all of that, And he explained that that
Speaker 1: victim advocate posed as a documentary filmmaker digging into this
Speaker 1: guy's crimes a ruse, but that after nearly ten hours
Speaker 1: of footage nothing solid emerged.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Part of it was because he doctor John was mumbling
Speaker 3: through these responses. I mean, he's eighty six years old.
Speaker 3: If he has Parkinson's or has had Parkinson's for ten years,
Speaker 3: I mean he probably is not very communetive. And the
Speaker 3: sheriff said, isn't it strange that Galina, the daughter, is
Speaker 3: the only person who speaks Dad that his detectives did
Speaker 3: interrogate doctor John Trevel through a proxy rather than their
Speaker 3: own detectives, adding the interrogation didn't have anything conclusive, no
Speaker 3: evidence of any wrongdoing.
Speaker 1: They went to all of those sites, those murder cabins
Speaker 1: and the things we talked about. He said, none of
Speaker 1: those things produced any leads. They didn't find any victims
Speaker 1: buried there. She also claims her father was behind a
Speaker 1: specific cold case from nineteen seventy four, one that the
Speaker 1: sheriff confirmed had DNA evidence associated with it.
Speaker 3: Investigators did get a warrant to test the dad's DNA
Speaker 3: to test the daughter's story, but there wasn't a match.
Speaker 3: The DNA went into cotis the Combined DNA Index System,
Speaker 3: which is the National Crime Database. And despite the fact
Speaker 3: that the daughter says that her dad is the most
Speaker 3: prolific series He'll kill her in American history, North American history,
Speaker 3: with bodies all over the place, not one hit on
Speaker 3: any unsolved case in codis now you mentioned that the
Speaker 3: murder weapon, the specific weapon that she believes that her
Speaker 3: dad used, was poison. That that was the thing that
Speaker 3: he was able to use over and over again. In
Speaker 3: one post, she shared a photo of a weathered, antique
Speaker 3: little bottle that just literally has the word poison on it.
Speaker 3: I guess it says strychnine. Also, she says that her
Speaker 3: dad kept that STRYC nine in his medicine bag. But
Speaker 3: you and I could buy a bottle or empty, I hope.
Speaker 3: But you and I could buy a bottle of strychnine
Speaker 3: labeled poison like that off of eBay. Sure, so none
Speaker 3: of that is a guarantee.
Speaker 1: Many of her allegations are tied to specific landmarks up
Speaker 1: in northern California. She insists her father buried victims along
Speaker 1: the winding thirteen Curves stretch of Highway twenty in Medicino County.
Speaker 1: Very hyper specific if you know the area, they say
Speaker 1: it adds of an ear of credibility for the amateur
Speaker 1: detectives who have been following her posts, and my goodness,
Speaker 1: haven't they in troves?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: This is I mean, this narrative that she has about
Speaker 3: her dad being a serial killer takes place in a
Speaker 3: very rural area where that top left quarter of California.
Speaker 3: The coast there is beautiful, but it's also home to
Speaker 3: all kinds of missing persons and unsolved murders. And they
Speaker 3: talk about I Think It's Death Mountain was a documentary
Speaker 3: that came out several years ago about the unregulated cannabis
Speaker 3: economy that is trying to be regulated and how dangerous
Speaker 3: that thing has been for the last quarter three quarters
Speaker 3: of a century, leaving behind buried bodies. And her story
Speaker 3: fits very well with the dark past of that area.
Speaker 3: And she claims that her dad confessed to the Santa
Speaker 3: Rosa hitchhiker murders and even at one point admitted that
Speaker 3: he was the Zodiac Killer. But remember this, Like you said,
Speaker 3: she is a horror author, and she told San Francisco
Speaker 3: Chronicle that's true. I know that people won't want to
Speaker 3: hear that, but and this is the key for me.
Speaker 3: I had a horribly abusive childhood, and that's how I vent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nos, I was going to say, what was the relationship
Speaker 1: like between this woman and her parents? Her mother, by
Speaker 1: the way, who I wanted to hear more from, because
Speaker 1: Mom's only quote in his story up until now was
Speaker 1: he's not a serious absolutely not when asked was your
Speaker 1: husband or is your husband a serial killer? Mom went
Speaker 1: on to say that the daughters creating the story about
Speaker 1: her father because she likes attention more than most. That's
Speaker 1: very sad, too bad. Call your parents all your kids,
Speaker 1: give them a hug, tell them you love them.
Speaker 4: Do all the things.
Speaker 3: Maybe talk about sex, depending on what's how old they
Speaker 3: are and if they know anything about it.
Speaker 2: So right, I don't know. I'm not getting into that.
Speaker 4: I just saw who you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 4: You're right?
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything.
Speaker 4: You didn't know, but I didn't have.
Speaker 2: To say anything, did I?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, Carl Demayo? Is that right?
Speaker 4: In for John Cobelt, I'll be a treat. We'll see
Speaker 4: you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings.
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