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Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pun on,
Thanks for telling a friend. Thanks to Tyler Bass for
breaking dolphins hearts fans all over the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any why do you know where my head went
when he kicked that ball? Where did your head go?
So that he had to kick that from Buffalo's own
forty nine yard line. Yeah, it was a sixty sixty
sixty one, so there's ten seconds left. They got two timeouts,
So immediately before he even goes out there, I'm already resigned
to the fact he's gonna miss it. And I look
at my wife and I said, two is gonna get
the ball. They're gonna have two timeouts, two quick throws,
field goal game Blouse's Dolphins. That's how this is gonna go.
He's not gonna make this kick. I've already written it off.
Now he does, he make it, but he would have
made it from seventy freaking yards.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a player who has loved and
hated in the same game so much as Tyler Bass
today misses the extra point dooints went in and then uh,
but that one point was a big deal.
Speaker 2: Scott Norwood in nineteen ninety one missed four field goals.
This was the game that actually people think that the
Super Bowl kick was the kick that kicked him out
of town. It wasn't. He kicked for one more year
that in ninety one, he goes there. The Bills go
to La to face the Raiders, and the Raiders are
pretty good and well, they played the Bills in the
NFC Championship game the year before, and he missed four
field goals four in that game, but he hit the
game winner in overtime and the Bills won. Sobody's like
everybody has a bad day. But then after that season,
Bill Poldie went and grabbed Steve Christie and it was
good bye Scott Norwood. But that was the game that
Scott Norwood, that sent Scott wood Norwood pack. It wasn't
the super Bowl. It was the Raiders game where he
missed four kicks.
Speaker 1: What's the uh, how are we feeling about the Bills
because it looked like the Miami offensive line did held
up well. It felt like, uh, they kind of had
their way. The Bills had moments. I didn't like the
deep pass, but thanks to former Buffalo Bill Poyer for
the uh, it wasn't even pass interference was it was?
Speaker 2: No, it was it was a personal foul. I mean,
so that was actually an interesting call because it was
down the Bills would have had to punt. Yeah, Miami
had two time outs at that point. He comes in.
He doesn't even have to like because Coleman wasn't catching
the ball. So actually he hit cole He didn't need
to hit Coleman, but he hit Coleman. He went helmet
to helmet. Yeah, so that wasn't I'm thinking it was
a pass interference. It wasn't. It was just so at
that point, all of a sudden, I told my wife,
I go, oh, it's only a fifteen yard penalty. That's
a huge Actually, that's a break for Miami. That that
was if it was a pass interference, balls right there
all of a sudden, they got to just run a
couple of players, kick a field go win the game.
But no, they were still on the on the minus
side of the field and they still had to drive
further to get to where they needed to go to
kick that field goal and win it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, have a gift though from either way. Yeah, oh,
it is a gift.
Speaker 2: He got the first down, he kept the drive alive.
They're not punting to Miami instead with like a minute
something left. Instead they're still driving. So yeah, that was
a gift, but it could have been a lot worse.
A game could have been a lot sooner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And then there were a couple of
little tiki taki things that the bills, the two holes
on the touchdowns or the so come on, I didn't
attack you hold the friend the one where Josh ran in, Yeah,
it didn't look like a hold of the me.
Speaker 2: So the first one with Dawkins like, I'm like, he's
not allowed to like keep the defender on the ground. Really,
the second one though, and I got to crap on
the phone for this. So this is the difference between
Belichick and every other coach. Belichick would always tell his players,
all right, the Dolphins are wearing white today, so you
offensive lineman and defensive lineman, I want you to wear
white gloves. Yeah, so that we don't get called for
those TICKI tack foles. What are the Bills offensive line?
But dude, hey, let's wear black CLOBs. So when you
grab somebody like Tori insted, he I mean, he's clearly
got a handful of his jersey. My buddy goes, dude,
it wasn't a hold. Shut up, And I pulled up
the rule and said, you can't grab somebody's jersey. Same thing.
Tell me that at a pass interference call, he's grabbing him.
He's grabbing him. That's called holding. You can't do that.
That was a penalty. By the way, nobody called the
holding on that Bill's touchdown. On the other end, No
nobody called that. So if you're gonna call it, call
it both ways. Yeah. The ref sucked, but they always suck,
so you got to overcome that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you see it all as the refs,
I really don't. I mean, that game moves.
Speaker 2: So I'm wind a one game that, like, the refs
are like always terrible and it doesn't matter how good
they are. Basketball. Basketball is the toughest sports to official.
It's amazing, and they're always getting yelled at by the
coaches every possession. They're getting streamed at. Yeah, but like football,
they have seven guys out there, so everybody's assigned a
certain name, you know.
Speaker 1: But still the game moves.
Speaker 2: So oh it especially in the NFL. We'rewing the Division
three refs. When the restaurants striking, the D three refs
called a touchdown that wasn't a touchdown the Fail Merry game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard, man, it is hard. But the
Bills win. Now, what are they seven to two?
Speaker 2: They're seven to two. They have a four game leading
the division. We're halfway through the season. Jeff Shadia from
NFL Network's text team me during the game. I think
he was in Buffalo cover in the game. He goes, man,
your boys, man, if they win this, they're going to
cruise because I think it's gonna be the Bills and
the Chiefs and the championship. I know you think so
now he he He's from Kansas City, so he's covered
the Chiefs. He went to Michigan, went to Wyoming. He's
worked for NFL Network, he's worked for SI, he's worked
for ESPN, and he's texted me. He goes, yeah, he
is the chiefstren as good as people think. He goes,
they're hurt, they're old, they're banged up, and he goes,
the other shoe's gonna fall with them. I go, well,
here's the other thing too. The Ravens are killing everybody.
They didn't win last week against Cleveland because of drop
passes and they just stopped like running the ball. Today
they steamrolled Denver. The only thing that holds Baltimore back
is if Lamar Jackson doesn't finish the season, which, by
the way, every other year he's prone to not do.
So we'll see. But yeah, I mean it was a
clunky win. Though. It's like they're talking in the post
game and I said, this too, this offense, what's its
identity yet? Do we know besides hey Josh, buddy Olpell, Yeah,
could you help us here?
Speaker 1: There were times there was Josh doing it, all of these.
Speaker 2: Drop pass so mar oh, dude, I have the drops here, okay,
Coleman dropped two, Cook dropped one. Cook dropped that, you know,
Oh my gosh. Then you had Coleman dropped the one,
the interception that led to a ninety seven yard drive.
The other way, Cook dropped the would be touchdown. Shaki
had two drops. One was on a penalty, would have
kind of can Ka dropped one in that final drive.
He dropped another one earlier. Dawson Knox had his usual
drop one because I'm Dawson Knox, I mean so like.
And then Alex he's literally he and Ray Davis are
doing it all, you know, but they let's run the ball,
and mcdermal let's play complimentary football, which every defensive minded
head coach says, which is code for let's be conservative.
Do you realize if if if Mike McDaniel got fired
for something stupid tonight in Miami, I would be on
the phone with him in a heartbeat. Could you come
coordinate our offense? Please? Can you imagine? You see what
the Miami did to the Bills defense today, Now imagine
that with a real quarterback. Bill's defense did not look
They didn't because all it was was slants, quick play,
quick outs.
Speaker 1: I feel like they've draw plays, they've shown screens and
McDaniel and Tua sliced them up. Well, look, you have
to say this, Tua played really well.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he looked exceptional And for a guy
who I'm watching him, I go all those concussions and
you can still it's amazing. I know it's amazing because
that guy has gotten beat up more than anyone.
Speaker 2: What shows you how smart you have to be to
be an NFL quarterback. Holy, you might be dumb at
everything else, but if you're smart as an NFL quarterback,
you're ahead of ninety nine percent of America.
Speaker 1: It's like that guy was great and then I mean,
Butterie kill and Waddle not until really the end of
the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it mattered, Yes, and it mattered, and that
that's all that matters, is that you show up when
it matters. And so it was an exciting game, back
and forth. I'd rather see something with a comfortable lead myself,
But in the end it was great.
Speaker 2: The Bills always start out slow. Yeah, it's funny that
before this they were they'd lost their last three games
on daylight savings time day.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't you know that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, something about that clock. That extra hour sleep.
Speaker 1: Hey, we can part right, Okay, let's go out. The
extra hour sleep to me makes me more tired. Like
I went to bed.
Speaker 2: People were weird moods today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to bed or earlier or around ten o'clock,
eleven o'clock class I slept longer. I slept longer, and
then when my alarm went off, which would be an
hour later than normal, Yeah, I didn't want to get up,
so I kept hitting snooze and then finally pulled myself
out of bed at about seven forty, which would be.
Speaker 2: Eight forty right. So it depends on when you wake
up within the sleep cycle how tired you are. It's
their ninety minute cycle. So if you wake up in
the middle of a ninety minute cycle, you're gonna be tired,
even if you slept for like three hours or four hours.
If you wake up at the end of a ninety
minute cycle, you're gonna feel fine. You're gonna feel tired later.
The tired's not gonna show up till later. But you
wake up in the middle of a cycle. And I
think all of America today woke up in the middle
of a cycle. The roads. I mean there's like heart
attacks and car crashes go down today statistically throughout the country.
On the day where we spring ahead, they go up significantly.
But for some reason, like everybody was out of it
today that I ran into, just people in weird moods. Yes,
they're crabby cutting people off on the road. See.
Speaker 1: I like it when it springs forward, because it's like hope,
maternal man, we get more daylight and everything else now
or back into the adults.
Speaker 2: So you're a parent, did you like my father used
to do this, so when we'd spring ahead, Hey, you
gotta go to bed an hour earlier because we lose
an hour on the days like last night, you'd hey,
you got to go to bed an hour earlier because
you need to adjust your body. Like he'd use it
either way and his advantage to get us to go
to bed.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever done that. I don't think
I have. I think even there, I think normally i'd
like you stay up later when the clock falls forward,
so that way I get to sleep and you sleep.
Speaker 2: Now was a college, it was a rough night to
go out, man, because everybody be we got the extra
hour week party till three to night.
Speaker 1: Yeah once, well because it was it two right, yeah,
so it becomes one again.
Speaker 2: So he's like, oh yeah, one more hour. The line
at March, Texas Hots is like, you know, all the
way down Monroe.
Speaker 1: Avenue, unbelievable. I didn't see anything else in the NFL today,
anything else that kind of exciting. So far, I didn't
really pay attention.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't really pay attention to anything else. I'd
like to, but I didn't. I didn't get the.
Speaker 1: Chance Indianapolis next week. What do you think you win?
Speaker 2: It's not u. Indianapolis has been one of those teams
and always gives the Bills a little bit of a headache.
So but I expect them to win. But I mean,
like I said, I wrote a column for the Times
of Wayne County quick plug the Bills and the Yankees
are the same team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I heard a lot of talent. Wait for the big play,
wait for the hero. If the hero doesn't show up
their straight and oh but we go into brain lock mode. Wait, hey,
let's forget to catch the ball. Okay, Daniel Judge drops
a routine pop up. He's looking to make a double play. Instead,
he gets nothing was that Cole's coul should have run
the front. And he's played with Anthony Rizzo for what
three years now, he should know that. Anthony Rizzo like
he's he's a lumbering first basement. He doesn't run back
the first and balls hit to him. That's a little
league play, that's spring training. I could kind of forgive
Vulpi for the throw to third. That was the right play, yes,
but BET's like he's he knew what he was doing,
so he's got to throw around him. But I mean,
still they imploded. But then they had the lead in
the eighth and you know in baseball, if you folks
know this, but they added the clocks, got throw to
at least three hitters, yep. And so hey, let's bring
in Tommy Canley, the guy who has had trouble all postseason,
instead of Luke Weaver for the six out safe to
send the series back to La No. No, no, no no.
Let's go with the guy who's had problems, and let's
let him try to know. And then we have to
go to our reliever with the bases loaded, our closer,
and what happens sacks fly, sack, fly, one run lead,
Gaves tied one on Lee we lose. I went to
bed game Blouse's we went series over, Dodgers win, and
it's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I went to bed and I woke up to this.
Speaker 2: Kevin Lagrette with a cigar in his mouth. I know
he's a Dodgers fan.
Speaker 1: Well, he's a Dodgers fan because they make a lot
of money off the Dodge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dude, And they're talking about going after
Wan Soto next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodgers are a machine. Yeah, they are a machine.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought, look, I thought Cole looked great. He
did even in that fifth inning. I thought he looked good.
He got two of the strongest five out.
Speaker 2: Five hundred runs Billy Fire forty. Yeah you can't. You
can't text your starting pitcher like that. Then after the game,
and then then then the fifth he's looking at like
what he's looking at Rizzo the first basement. Look what
are you doing? No, no, douche bag, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He should run over Fatigue.
Speaker 2: Fatigue makes cowards of us all Billy like like Dayly
Savings time, who says it? Fatigue? It's a coach. Fatigue
makes cowards of us all coaches all like to say
that I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that fatigue makes cowards of us. All yeah,
I guess sure, Yeah, I feel yeah, I get it.
I felt fatigued for a couple of years.
Speaker 2: You had it this morning daylight savings time. I was fatigued.
Daylight savings actually is over now now we are on
regular time, just in time for the election.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, here it comes. Exciting month. We've got Thanksgiving
coming up, Danny. Oh, it's good the holidays. I love,
get married and we'll be in happy moods. And there's
football about happy moods. But look at words seven and
two of the Bills.
Speaker 2: Focus on the positive. We're looking at the good. Look
at my life this way. No matter what happens Tuesday,
Jesus Christ is still king. Yes, the Bills are at
the top of the division. That that that compares to
the other thing.
Speaker 1: And what are the Bills three and a half game
lead in the af S?
Speaker 2: Really four? Because they have to hand over Miami, because like,
Miami is better than the Jets in the in the
in the Patriots so well the Jets. Actually I rooted
for the Jets Thursday night because you want to knock
Houston down a peg. Yeah, and they looked pretty good.
They did. They got together the second half of that.
For oh my gosh, who was it that that dropped
the ball in the way into the end zone. Oh,
just before receiver. Yeah, the rookie. Yeah, oh my gosh.
It's like jet's got a jet. But he did it.
It was like he dropped the ball thinking that he
was in He was in the ends of the audio,
was in the edge. And that's why you always picture
the finish line at the back of the head zone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little little sloppy.
Speaker 2: Jet's gonna jet, but uh, yeah, we got It's it's
an interesting month. You gotta grow a mustache. Pill.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. Were you considering it? Well,
for I've done. My wife would slap me though, but
why maybe maybe she'd like Oh I don't think she'd
like it.
Speaker 1: Maybe she would, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to find ticlar. It's trust me, there's
no tickling on.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's prostate month. You gotta works older, Yes,
you want me to die, you gotta work to prostate.
Speaker 2: I know, Yes, I'll do your breast exam you do
my prostate. See now I have heard I gotta did
you learn nothing from the NFL this October? Yes, a
crucial catch. We gotta find the crucial catch for each other.
Speaker 1: Well, who's the Vanderbeek the actor from James Vanderka from
Dawson Creek colorectal cancer forty seven years old.
Speaker 2: That happens. It's happening younger people, younger and younger. You
know why, Well, there was a woman that my buddy knew.
You're eating fruity pebbles. I think so, you're not joking
food for real, But go read anything from Cali Means
and his sister talking about that stuff, because it is
the food that we were basically given sugar for breakfast.
And the FDA tried to tell Americans that, oh, fruity
pebbles are healthier than fruit.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I grew up where it was eggs all
the time, and then you heard the eggs were bad,
and then eggs were okay, egg whites were okay, egg beaters.
All this stuff her health, and now vegetab oil was healthy.
Now the actual the best part, which is the healthiest part,
is the yolk. It doesn't raise your class.
Speaker 2: At all but raises your testosterone.
Speaker 1: But I always think that we have for so long
been told well because it's like lobbyists and things.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's where I go. Breakfast is not the
most important meal of the day.
Speaker 1: When I did the diet you did, I was amazed
at how much better I felt and how much clearer
I thought, how much better I slept all that stuff.
And you know, I've been struggling. I haven't been able
to get back there because now you know path of
least resistance. I got that. I got that chicken cord
on blue pre bread and frozen chicken in the freezer.
I'll just throw it.
Speaker 2: It's bree and apple, I'll just throw it.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, there's that stuff, and I I have
noticed that since Jamison has been with me, there's a
lot more snacks and things. And the one weakness I
have is I eat when I'm tired, and I'll eat
whatever's in front of me. I won't make healthy choices.
I'll just eat. And I'm a big fan of cheese
and crackers, and I like the tomato baso wheat inns.
Speaker 2: They're good, which probably, yeah, probably, there's a way to
get around that. And I just there's the way to
get around that. Yeah, after you eat dinner, Yeah, go
brush your teeth. Oh yeah, go brush your teeth and
drink water the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I try. I do drink water, and I
need to do more of that. But I have noticed,
like I've tried brushing my teeth and then figure and
I won't drink coffee, but the coffee taste minty.
Speaker 2: To me, So I keep drinking. Like I could fight
through it. I can't work. I could go through it.
I gotta get I got a You're like Tyler Bass
when it comes to eating. It's I could do it. Coach,
It's Tyler Bass. You know.
Speaker 1: You gotta say that was a ballsy move by McDermott,
was it not?
Speaker 2: No, I was.
Speaker 1: It was a ballsy move to put the ball on
his foot for sixty I think it was sixty one there,
sixty three by the time, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was officially the sixty one yard kick. Yes
it was, because Miami gets the ball right at the
forty nine.
Speaker 1: And he put it up. Yeah, way through the thing.
I mean that thing hacked that.
Speaker 2: Well, here's like like somebody brought this up at the
post game and they're actually right about this. Who's gonna
get mad at a kicker for missing a sixty one
yard er? Well, nobody, nobody. Well after you missed the
next point, duyk a second one and missed all the
kicks you've missed, oh in the playoff games, Yes, look great,
but sixty one sixty one yard is not a gimmey
a forty seven eymed grass as we know, it's not
a gimmy. Our favorite caller called in and said this
kicking games showed up. Man, tell them, We said, hey,
but he was totally right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Earlier this week, the marcan aka Greg Connors or
I call Greg Connors aka the market.
Speaker 2: He did say that the weakest part of the Bills.
Speaker 1: Game is kicking right now.
Speaker 2: It's a big one.
Speaker 1: And we never see somebody trade for a kicker. It
just doesn't happen. No, you find a kicker in the offseason.
Speaker 2: And the best part is they drafted this dude. Yeah,
they drafted him. You don't see kickers draft everyone like
the Raiders drafted Janakowski in the first round and everybody
was all upset about Al Davis just lost as marbles.
It was actually the smartest pick he had in this
last ten years.
Speaker 1: Janikowski kicked for how many years?
Speaker 2: Oh, he kicked for like fifteen years, that's all. Yeah, Okay,
they used to call him Date Ray Plekowski and the
Gym Rope Show because he's got so much trouble.
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Speaker 2: Stones right, yeah, that's right. They have so many different sounds,
but you know it's the Stones every time you do
and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's funny because there are certain bands that you can
always pick out, right. I was unable to identify a
Guns n' Roses song the other day.
Speaker 2: Well with Kevin Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been
digging deeper in the I didn't it was a cover,
but I didn't get from the Spaghetti Incident album because
they have an album of covers yeah. I mean I
think they did. I think it was a Stone song
they covered. Oh yeah, oh they did. They did Sympathy
for the Devil one.
Speaker 1: Yes it was and I did not recognize I did
not recognize the voice.
Speaker 2: But once you heard it, you knew it. Yeah, but you're.
Speaker 1: Right, there is something with the Stones.
Speaker 2: Now are they your number one band ever? Uh?
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I've really I love them. And the
reason I think I liked them so much is they
were sort of this, uh rebellious, you know, we're going
to do it our way kind of thing. And I
don't know why that. That just appeals to me so much.
And it's also such a detriment because you know, nobody
I said this the other day, I I I call
it the the Wise Council. I meet with these guys
like once a month or very two weeks or so,
and I said, you know, the funny thing is nobody
does it alone. Nobody does anything alone. We can look
and I am only bringing him up because of all
the things that the guy has done that I believe
has made life a little more interesting. If nothing else
is Elon Musk Right, We've got you know, the electric
car prolification. I really think that he pushed that, and
yet we would say Elon must did. But he doesn't
do it alone. There's brilliant people with him who don't
get the credit, and everybody's standing on the shoulders of
somebody else and somewhere along the way, right, nobody does
it alone.
Speaker 2: Look Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank, right, I think he's Canadian.
He said, every company, when they make it big, they
get to two to three million dollars and then there's
a decision, there's a fork in the road and the
person with that vision has to make a decision and
how they're going to pivot next. They could keep going
with the vision, yeah, and headstrong, and that's fine, but
you have to hire the right people who know what
you don't know, because if you don't hire the people
or bring with you the people that know what you
don't know, you'll continue to not know it without anybody
else knowing it, and you will eventually flop. And he said,
like ninety percent of companies hit that three million dollar
mark eventually just flop because they the guy with the
vision doesn't go out and realize what he doesn't know
and hire the people to fix the things that he
doesn't know. Well, I think it's.
Speaker 1: Amazing insight, right, because there's a book called Good to Great,
and it's about companies that went from good to great,
Walgreens being one of them. And one of the things
Walgreen said, and I don't know if that would still
be the case today, but the CEO said, I hire
people who could be CEOs and are smarter than me.
You really have to be secure in who you are, right,
because how many times would you feel like somebody's gunning
for your job, even as an underlink you got a
job somewhere, you feel like, like, i'll tell you what,
Probably not. So I never felt this way. I don't
know why, but I never felt like if I took
vacation there was a chance I was going to lose
my job. But I did take a guy's job. He
went on vacation. I filled in consultant, was in town.
I did some silly bit on the radio, and the
guy goes put him in the afternoons, and so that
that's how I got afternoon drive. And the guy who
went on vacation, they put him on nights.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like bad, right, So there are people in radio
who would not take vacations.
Speaker 2: So think about that. You're running a company.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that these people don't have as everybody
has an aspiration and no one's gonna see it your way.
And yet he's right, if you're gonna do it, you've
got to find those people.
Speaker 2: And you have to be carefu well, like you said,
like Steve Jobs when he was at Apple, to first
go around, he brought in the guy who came up
with the Pepsi challenge to take Apple to the next level.
That that guy end up being the deciding vote to
throw him out, throw him out right. Then he ends
up coming back firing that dude and rebuilding Apple and two, Okay,
we're gonna do three things, and we're gonna do three
things incredibly well. And now Apple, you know, has set
the pace for you know, phones and computers and software.
Speaker 1: It is and sometimes maybe even that time away is
what you need. Yeah, you got to research, you need
a little a little bit of a time wine.
Speaker 2: I don't think Elon's gonna take any time away though.
I think he's like full like he's like full go.
I mean you look about Space X and X and Tesla,
Tesla like like his his whole like somebody They interviewed
somebody who work with him and said, every morning he
wakes up and sees life through the prism of sending
people to Mars and colonizing Mars. That is his number
one mission in life is to colonize Mars, and everything
flows through that. And then he's talking about if Trump
gets elected president, how he might be in charge of
a brand new department called government Efficiency. Yeah, which I
actually think would be a great idea, because man, we
waste so much wood.
Speaker 1: But I who knows, right, who knows what could happen?
I know this at one point you you did for
a little while, which is a great lift.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the gig economy and doing stuff like that
is great. Uh, and it gives people a chance to
not yet, Look, you don't have to go get a
taxi license and the prices go up and the medallion's
whatever you're paying for. I don't know all the ins
and outs of taxis and stuff, and so they've made
it easier. And now I think you were here one
night I sent Jamison via uber to basketball practice, right,
just you know's trust that it's easy. It's just called
up on your phone. It's an amazing, amazing thing. So
there's the story about a couple of girls there you
get picked up at probably after the night of partying
and all this, and uh, well, listen to this.
Speaker 4: To that seemingly unprovoked attack on an uber driver caught
on camera. That driver says he hadn't said a word
to his two passengers when one of them suddenly lunges forward.
Look at that pepper spraying him in the face. That
woman now facing charges.
Speaker 1: Wow, pepper spraying this guy in the face.
Speaker 4: Let's go on with the story on the Upper east Side.
Here's eyewitness news reporter Kimberly Richardson.
Speaker 5: This is where she climbed over. Yep, the woman right there,
Jennifer Gilbo riding in schoell Ma Mood's car when out
of nowhere she appears to snap plunging at the Uber driver.
Speaker 1: Yes, your friend video it was burning.
Speaker 6: In Yes, it's bonning last two hours Joelle, Jennifer.
Speaker 1: Why did I do the same thing? Burning last two
hours for guy?
Speaker 2: Though? Because it's it's it's it's because the way he
says it, like, oh yeah, Bernie, Bernie, last two hours. Yeah,
it's uh stopped. So this she's you see.
Speaker 1: On the dash cam or into your cam of the
car from his uh from the dash right, you see everything.
You see her friend go like, Jennifer, what the fuck?
Like She's like, couldn't believe, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why are you doing this?
Speaker 5: Your friend on West forty sixth Street. But when they
got to sixty fifth and Lex, things quickly went south
early Wednesday morning. What Joelle insists he hadn't said a
word to the ladies. The other passenger appears just as
stunned done Why we're asking her friend why she was
doing this? He wonderfer what you really say?
Speaker 1: Get him?
Speaker 5: Get him out? In the first few seconds, Choelle tells
me he tried to get I.
Speaker 1: Gotta get to a certain point in the story and
you will laugh, and I'll see if you pick up
on the same thing.
Speaker 5: I did get out, but his seat belt was on.
Speaker 6: I'm like kind of hanging out in the car, so
I just take it out of the vocal and close
my eyes and got out. And then I realized my
car is running. I jump in and put in proposition
and got out.
Speaker 5: Jennifer's roommate tells me she had no idea this had
happened even though she was just in touch with Jennifer
last night, Jennifer did not answer the door. A young
lady who has a website.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, and thank you for listening the health and
normness of.
Speaker 5: John Get this centered around health and wellness.
Speaker 2: Wow, she used the attacker.
Speaker 5: She's a perfect indicating she has a background in pr
shee was a married father of three. His mom also
lives with the family.
Speaker 1: Whom all right, so further investigation. This happened back in September.
It looks like and at a light, allegedly according to
other articles, not in this one, he starts to he
starts to pray at the light. Okay, now, the only
thing I can think and I can't I have no
oh oh, okay he was Was he praying?
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was praying a lot or not.
The only thing all these TV shows we've watched, we
see a guy who looks like he might be from
the Middle East praying in a language we don't understand,
and immediately think he's gonna flip a switch.
Speaker 1: Do you understand now, I'm not saying that this girl
in any way is right. I am simply putting it
out there have we done a job in this country
where we have taken everybody who's of Middle Eastern descent
that you know, a slightly different skin tone and have
an Arabic I don't know accents speak Arabic whatever. I
have no idea. An I'm he is praying, and I
would assume he must be praying aloud because in that
article he insists he was not talking.
Speaker 2: To the girls.
Speaker 1: Okay, based on the other articles, that makes me say
he was talking, yes, just not to them, right, So.
Speaker 2: This girl, here's whatever she hears. Here's the other thing too.
I'm assuming they speak English and he's not. So he
probably isn't talking to them. No, but he's talking, right,
just not to them clearly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so he is. So this this was
my thinking on this. I go, I'm watching this, and
I go, Okay, one article says he was praying at
a light, and the other article, this one, this news story,
does not mention that whatsoever. But he does insist that
he was not talking to them. I'm sure he wasn't
talking to them, but you hear some kind of patterned speech,
and you think that this dude's about to do, right
Kamakazi mission, you know, seventy versions away, right, that's.
Speaker 2: What we think.
Speaker 1: And and I go, boy, have we just made everybody
of Middle Eastern descent? Is that the hardest thing to
be in this country? I don't know Middle Eastern sid
do we just have a sense of distrust to the point,
especially two white girls in the middle of the night.
Do you like they hear this and that girl freaked
out because I go.
Speaker 2: I think it's just her and this is her because
the guy. There are more Muslims in this country now
than at any point before nine to eleven, after everything else.
I mean, okay, let's let's let's think about this. You
want to talk about a religion with bad public relations?
Nine shoot, nine to eleven will do it right? And
instead they've increased membership. Think about this, you know. I
mean there's other groups like mine that membership has kind
of gone down. And okay, we really didn't do anything. No,
But so I go, we just start we're just against abortion. No,
they're bad, they're evil. So can we say this?
Speaker 1: This is where my head goes on all these things.
And I love these because I think it's very very
real for everybody. I think it's something that we face
as a society. And to your point where you say,
I think it's just this girl could be I don't
know what her family background, I don't know what she's
been through. But her friend is going like, what the
fuck are you doing? Yes, it says that, and you
can see it in the video. So therefore I would say,
you're right, it's just the girl. But is it a
racist thing? I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know because I don't think. So here's what
I got.
Speaker 1: Into the vehicle with this guy with no hesitation. It
was when he started to pray.
Speaker 2: That's when the trigger. And here's what I think this is.
This woman you said is a wellness person. I think
we have another disease in this country. It's called we
believe too much of our own bs right, or a narcissist?
We are, Okay, And so now, because in the era
of youtubing, like I actually heard a guy who used
to be a pastor of the other day go, I
have I've decided to have been praying about this. I
have resigned from being a pastor and I'm gonna go
into full time youtubing. Okay, that's not the Holy Spirit,
that's just your ego. Okay, here's what I think. This
woman had some mental issues. So she got into wellness
and started learning a few things, and issaiah to turn
it into a website and make money because guess what, hey,
I learned all this valuable stuff and now I'm going
to pass it on to you for nineteen ninety five
a month. Because she's got mental issues, and she immediately
attributed this poor guy with pray with being a terrorist
because she's got issues. I don't think it's a race thing.
I think it's a what's her name.
Speaker 1: A Jennifer. That's a Jennifer issue. Yes, okay, all right,
but that's right, they're gonna go back to. I think
there are other factors in this. I think if it
was two in the afternoon versus two in the morning
and it was approximately that time.
Speaker 2: Nothing true.
Speaker 1: I think that there was. I think that plays a
factor into it. I think drink alcohol, I would say,
plays a factor into it. And just misinterpretation. And you're right,
a Jennifer thing where she freaked out because I thought,
what if it were you and you stopped and prayed.
I will tell you that if someone started to pray,
I don't think I'm Pepper spraying them, but us to
make my sphincter a little tight. Even if you're praying
in English, I'm thinking, what what is wrong with this car?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is wrong with this car that all of a
sudden you're gonna pray at the lights?
Speaker 2: Do you understand? Like that?
Speaker 1: So maybe this guy was saying maybe they were loud
and obnoxious and he was having and maybe he was praying,
you know, God give me the grace to get these
two bimbos home. I don't know, And maybe they're not
bimbo's the women.
Speaker 2: And I will tell you. When I was in New
York with Beth over the summer, the hardest part of
our trip, and I'm not joking was the ride to
and from the airport.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 2: It was just long, bumpy and hard and a large
like the ride. The ride from from JFK to the
hotel and back was actually as long as the flight
I'm not from New York to Rochester. I'm not joking.
And it was bumpy and it was rough. And the
second driver told us, I go, hey, where's the seatbelts?
He goes, no need? Like what? No need? And he
didn't speak English. Neither of them did he said no need.
I'm like, uh, okay, I guess we're in good hands
with this guy. But the first driver he was.
Speaker 1: Kind of like, uh, your pepper spray.
Speaker 2: He was kind of crying like the whole ride, like
he was like something was bothering him and he had.
Speaker 1: Just gotten pepper spray.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that was the guy only this dude was Asian,
but I mean like, I'm like, something's going on in
his life. And then when we tipped him, he was
like really like overwhelmed, like oh, thank you, thank you. Well,
you're supposed to tip everybody, but I mean you don't
have to. But the point was like something was on
its mind. And when you're driving, you process a lot
of thoughts because you're alone in your own head, especially
if you don't speak English as a first language, but
you're picking up people who do.
Speaker 1: This is why I will tell you that the one thing,
and I go back something I've always thought. I used
to write it at the top of every page when
we worked in radio together, on the top on my notes.
Be present, yes, And I think that a lot of times,
if you can stay as present in the moment, but
if you can't, we can be We are I think
I think we can be Can we sustain it? I'm
not sure about that, but I think we can be
president in the moment. You don't think so, Oh, I
think we can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said. We never are saying our default is
always to do something else. Multitask. Yes, we have trained
ourselves to believe we can multitask. And all you're doing
is tasting other things differently at at different times.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that, and I think that's true.
Just what your task switching is when I think that
when you're in the moment, that's when things just go
easier and flow all that stuff and you just have
to put the other stuff outside. Yeah, but I don't know. Anyway,
we're a little off. I think this girl is definitely
at fault. But I go, boy, we've done a great
job in this country.
Speaker 2: You want to talk about PR.
Speaker 1: You think, as you say, Islam has a bad pr
as a religion. Yeah, I think that, uh, absolutely absolutely.
I think that this girl freaks out thinking that this
guy was gonna blow something up. Yes, and she sprayed him.
And I shouldn't laugh at that, because this poor dude
gets pepper sprayed in there. Thank God, it was just
pepper spray right right, And I think even that is
that illegal in New York State?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't either.
Speaker 2: I I once had think squirrels in the house are illegal?
From what I forget it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, y, squirrels in your house are illegal? You can't
have that?
Speaker 2: What ke you boys? Okay? Squirrels of the house illegal?
So Democrat folks, Well, I don't know. That just sounds
like it. It sounds like a I don't even know
what it was. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I couldn't pay attention to the story, Yeah, because I
found it disturbing an upsetting.
Speaker 2: But I saw the guy like like petting him and
having a good time with him, watching Bills games with him,
you know, it went to Wegmans with him. I really
don't see a problem. But yeah, with like that other thing,
Oh my gosh, I got I got some lift stories.
I this one woman I picked up at ten o'clock
on a Friday morning, but she's dressed up like she
just went out the night before. Like these weren't like
ten o'clock. I need to go home close. These are
ten o'clock. I'm coming back and from somewhere having a
walk of shame and need to go home. Yea, right,
and I could smell the whiskey on her.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I drop her off about probably like forty whoa,
and drop her off all of a sudden, like I'm
driving off all of a sudden, my app just goes off, stops,
and I turn it back on and goes You need
to stop driving now call Lyft for further instruction. I
call she. She wrote to Lyft and said that I
was drunk driving at ten o'clock in the morning. She
smelled alcohol. I'm like, honey, was you I even told
the person that lift I go, No, I go. It's
ten o'clock on a Friday morning. I go, I've already
done like ten rides. Check my record. Everything's fine. This
woman smelled like whiskey. I'm picking her up, probably from
a date from the night before and bringing her home.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You meet somebody that's Doug Man. He can tell you
some stories about Lyft driving. Yeah, it's a bad thing
with this poor dude gets attacked, all right. I had
another woman reach over like Thanksgiving Eve, which is the
worst night. I mean, okay, the biggest barn night of
the year. The biggest part. Doug might have some stories.
This one girl like reached over and started honking my
horn to get her friend's attention. I said, please don't
touch my wheel. I didn't touch your wheel. I touched
your horn. I go, yeah, it's touched to the wheel.
Please don't, please, don't do that. And her friends are
like apologizing on her behalf. But she's three, she's in
the wind. She gave me a zero grade. I get
a call from the lift. I go, she was obnoxious.
I go, she's honking my heart. Okay, cool, keep driving.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure they have to look, they have to
investigate it. Sure they do, and it's all part of it.
Speaker 2: People could be Oh yeah, people can be nuts.
Speaker 1: Absolutely nuts. Yeah, a little crazy. All right, Well, take
a moment. This is a this is the time of
the year, Danny, where lots of accidents do happen, and
Monroe County is second in the state with this.
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Speaker 2: Home. One of my change.
Speaker 1: As something that most people don't have to deal.
Speaker 2: With anymore, especially in this That song was created this
this decade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do they exist anywhere?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Pay for The.
Speaker 1: Reason I play this song is because, uh do you
remember the Well, we'll get to it in a second.
It'll all tie together why I'm playing the song. But October,
November and Decevener our peak deer season. Now the other
day I'm jo yes and okay, so I'm driving from
the Ymca in Penfield back here and a deer, and
it was Saturday morning, was yesterday morning, and it was
such it was so the deer's coat was darker, like
it blended into the brush the trees like I saw it.
It started to go it hesitating, went back. I went,
holy crap, I'm telling you right now, start driving the
speed limit. Start driving the speed limit all the time,
because at least the speed limit, I believe you'll have
enough time if.
Speaker 2: You see the deer.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're doing sixty five and a forty
five and that deer pops out, good chance there's nothing
you can do. But forty five and the deer pops out,
you might have a better chance of being able to stop.
I almost I feel like maybe that. I don't know
how they come up with the speed limits, I don't know,
but it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't fifty five. The thing in the seventies during the
gas strike they said that was the most efficient usage,
probably oil or gas.
Speaker 1: It could be, but I'm just saying, like some of
these side roads and stuff, the speed limits forty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's forty five.
Speaker 1: But I go, wow, thank god, I was going the
speed limit because had that deer started to go. I
would have been right. It would have been too late, right,
But at least here I could see it enough and
I could slow down. I too have had where I'm
driving in to work in the morning and a giant
buck at Saint John Fisher jumps over the wall into
the westbound lanes and I see it, and I go,
there's nothing I can do because if I jam on
my brakes right now, I'm probably gonna fish out. Because
I was driving a pickup truck at the time, and
there's a car that's right to my left right, and
I'm in the center lane, and I'm not driving the
speed limit because I never did. And I just took
my foot off the gas and I hit that deer
dead center and it rolled and took off, I guess
into the woods.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. And I drove to work.
Speaker 1: And they knocked out the entire heating system in the car.
I had fur in there there pulling out for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just bam, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's scary. Yeah. And you think you're you're on an expressway,
You're okay, You're.
Speaker 1: I believe somebody died today today or Yester Friday, night Friday.
Speaker 2: And I know this because my neighbor was good friends
with the young man who passed car. Car hits the deer,
deer flies up in the air, lands on his car
going in the opposite direction through the window, killed him. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's the one in Parma we're talking about, Yeah,
that's the one. Yeah, my my neighbors were good friends
with that young man. I guess I met him once.
I don't remember. It was a while ago.
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh my god, what are the chances.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Talk about being the wrong place at the
wrong time. No, no alcohol involved, nothing, It was just
just you're just driving. Yeah, one car hits the deer,
deer hit the other car kills somebody.
Speaker 1: We had fifteen hundred, over fifteen hundred animal related crashes
in October. We're now in November. That's from this year,
twenty twenty four in Monroe County, second highest in the state,
second high.
Speaker 2: I believe that.
Speaker 1: I think Ontario County's in the top ten, but Monroe
more so.
Speaker 2: All the collision shops are already backed up, like they'll
tell you, like if if you like. I when I
had mine two years ago. They told me it happened
around this time here. They said, we won't be able
to get to your get to your car until January.
So I had to drive around with these dents in
the hood for two months. It was embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Well if they can't, they can't U Yeah, I mean
when you now, I did see what I don't know
what they call it, when it's they give you before
a turn lane on a road.
Speaker 2: Right, there's that yellow stripes.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of that fat oval shape and there's
probably a word for that center lane median it's but
it's not. It's just yeah, I know what you're techling highway.
There's a deer that is dead. The carcass is in that.
I'm going there's no way the deer died right there. No,
somebody dragged it there and just left it.
Speaker 2: You will be funny, you know, like it used to
be funny, Like they see like the get well they
get well soon balloons. But like we did. We tell
a story of the break and where a guy got
arrested because he grabbed a sawd tried to saw the
head off. It was like a twelve point buck, yeah,
and he wanted for a trophy, so he grabbed a
sad tried. They caught him, saw the head off the thing. Yeah.
That man's name was Toothless. No, it's like it wasn't anybody. Yeah,
there was a true story because people do that, man,
because you can sell them and make money. But yeah,
I mean there's a lot of deer out there. You
gotta be careful coyotes too. Coyotes are out man, and
they're more vicious now than ever.
Speaker 1: Well they're going after uh yeah, they're going well, they'll
go after your small dogs and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do you do? This is why I'm
playing Peyphone? Do you remember this call? Do you remember this?
Speaker 2: Yes? I do.
Speaker 1: I me on the emergency line. Do you have an emergency?
I need a bambulance?
Speaker 3: Who is a joke?
Speaker 1: Okay, where do you need us?
Speaker 2: I'm in my phone booth. Okay, what's the address there?
I'm let me tell you what I mean. I'm going
down the road driving my car, mine and my own
goddamn business, and a mountain deer jumped down and.
Speaker 3: Hit my car.
Speaker 2: Okay, sir, you injured?
Speaker 1: Now let me tell you.
Speaker 5: I get out and picked the deer up.
Speaker 1: I thought it's dead.
Speaker 2: I put them on deer in my.
Speaker 1: Back beat, and I'm driving down the main road in
mine in my own business. The woke up and bit
me in the back of my goddamn nicka.
Speaker 3: It bit me any down and kicked the ship out
of my car.
Speaker 1: I'm in the my phone booth.
Speaker 6: The dead bit me in the neck.
Speaker 1: A big dog came up. The dog wanted me, had
his phone booth because he wants the deer. Now gets
the deer Me and the dog.
Speaker 2: Hold on get out of him. That was like a
radio stack Bob and Tom.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I heard it with Bob
Wolf back in the early nineties, late eighties early.
Speaker 2: I remember finding that and giving that to Have you
ever heard this? And you were like, holy cow, like
this is dan, this is an old bit. Well really
I didn't. I didn't know that, but I don't think
I knew it was a bit at the time. I
always thought it was like real, you knew it was
a bit, Yes, I did. It came out to be
that it was some somebody. Maybe maybe it was a
Bob and Tom. I have no idea, but I think
that inspired the scene and Tommy Boy where they pick
up the deer, and then.
Speaker 1: The deer wakes up, he goes through the roof and
does all that stuff. I don't know. I would just say, uh, yeah,
you gotta be on the be alert.
Speaker 2: Do they still make those deer whistles and they work
for the eighties? Fucking dog? Of course they don't work,
because if they did, we'd be we'd have more of them.
Speaker 1: So I did see this post on on social media,
and someone hit a dog on Brick Schoolhouse Road, about
a corn mile west of town Line Road on the
west side of the city. They were traveling at a
high rate of speed. I know this because the poor
dog was splattered all across, all across, all across the road.
I know they the dog because he was one hundred
and sixty five pounds the dog. If you have any
information on this unfortunate instant, they leave a phone number.
I promise you won't you. I won't treat them the
same way as the innocent dog. I'll at least notify
their family of the unfortunate passing. So I don't know
what that means. Pieces of shit should be ashamed of yourself.
I will find you and you will be dealt with
the boy, I will find you. Well, you hit a dog,
wouldn't you stop? People don't stop when they hit our
human being, of course, to keep going right because you
freak out a lot of times and people panic.
Speaker 2: Yes, people freak out. Do you go back to the scene. Okay,
how can I fix this? Well?
Speaker 1: I remember driving my brother and sister home from church
in my mother's car, and she had a Honda something
a Cord that had a little wider tires and a
sad little lower and I remember seeing this puppy bounding
down the road and I tried to swerve and I
caught it under one of the wheels and I was like,
oh my god, and my brother's just like what what.
I go nothing, nothing, nothing, And I drove it. I
drove them home because I didn't want them to know,
and then I went back. I drove all the way back,
and I went door to door trying to find out
whose dog this was someone had found because there was
no dog. There was remnants, but no dog. They had
picked it up. So I was trying to go and
say I am so sorry. And I went to two
or three houses and like one guy was calling for
his dog, and you know, goes you know, just yelling.
Once I said, hey, I hit a dog. I don't
know if it's your dog, but it's and he starts
calling for the dog. Also here he goes all right,
and I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 2: I can't. Like I was sweating and panicked and felt
so bad.
Speaker 1: I felt awful. I love dogs. I would never but
I tried to find the person. And after I think
I did four houses, and after the fourth time, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm never gonna they's a family guy about this
because Brian, who's a dog, Yeah, hit a dog. And
so he brings in Joe the cop. He's a very serious,
charges Brian, and then he admits that he killed a dog. Whoa, whoa, whoa,
you killed a dog. Oh nobody cares about a dog. Yeah,
I know. See, but people do care. They do care
about animals.
Speaker 1: They care more about animals.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're a little nuts. Yeah, like the people
that drive me nuts. And I feel bad for saying this,
but it's the truth. People who were like, oh, the
dog was like a member of the family. Yeah, I'm sure,
but they eats on the floor, craps outside. Come on,
it's not like losing a child.
Speaker 1: So people, I don't think it is the same as
a child. I mean I used to say that.
Speaker 2: Because what happens somebody, you go get another dog? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I remember once bitching and saying about
people who said that about their kids, and I'm like, yeah,
because you send your kid out to ship in them. Yeah,
already just put food down.
Speaker 2: I did. I got infuriating. So it was like, gay, man,
I know exactly what it's like. We got a dog,
and I was like, you have no idea, you know
what I mean. I trained my dog. I send them
off to be trained. That's it. I got this kid
for ever, right for the rest my son. Yes, yeah,
there's no comparison. Sorry, what your dog? Well get another one. Here,
here's fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: Be careful out there on the roadways. We will take
a moment. Well, we should probably check in. I haven't
done this in a while with Race and Randy. They
able will try to check with him later in the week.
But there is a story out of the Times Wayne
County and it is uh family and I don't know
there's been a couple of family incidents lately. Uh with
Jason Kelsey. Yeah, I don't know that he's o.
Speaker 2: Ye, I want to send Greg a card for Penn
State losing yesterday. Oh boy, Ohio State.
Speaker 1: They got the same record down, Yes they do.
Speaker 2: Here. Here's the thing, there's a playoff now, Yeah, a
wide playoff.
Speaker 1: Here comes Oregon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon, you slapped the taste out of Michigan's mouth
last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But Kelsey and we'll get into the Wayne County
story as well. We'll get to all that right after this.
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Speaker 2: I don't like your little games.
Speaker 5: Don't like your two to.
Speaker 1: Stage the role you made me play.
Speaker 2: I don't like you. I don't like your.
Speaker 1: Perfect I didn't realize that the Kelsey brothers own a
beer probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the progression podcast, but micro brew, Yeah, they
get out of ESPN. I want to do the data
pop star man. Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 1: Progressive Uh yeah, So Jason Kelsey. I'm watching game day
before the Penn State Ohio State game in Happy Valley,
and I see Jason Kelsey there. He's gonna attempt to
kick the field goal like they do beforehand. He's got
Timberland's on and he man, he shanks that thing so
far left and then he does it the second time,
and he shanks it even like even the same direction.
It just goes like whoop, which is kind of funny.
But then after the game, I don't know exactly what happened.
So I'm watching this he's walking out, and there's been
several different angles of this. I'm sure you've seen it. It
was all over TMZ and everywhere. But this is Jason
Kelsey leaving uh.
Speaker 4: Beaver State that seemingly unprovoked.
Speaker 1: Whops, that's the wrong one. This is it.
Speaker 2: Kelsey Kelsey, causey Kelsey, Casey Chelsey? Can I get a fist? Bob?
Can I get a all right?
Speaker 1: So it sounds like that guy says it twice, Yes,
how do you feel that your brother's a faggot for
dating Taylor? Taylor Swift? But you don't hear it as
well the second time, but I think the guy said
it a second time. Jason turns around, grabs the phone,
and then spikes it on the ground. Now from there,
I'm confused as to what happens. He said, who's the no, No,
I know, but he spikes it, turns around and keeps walking.
The next video I see from a different angle is
this one where he's bending down to pick up a phone.
Speaker 2: Is it the phone he just spiked?
Speaker 1: Did he slam it so hard that it's shot behind him?
Because he turned around he's facing this. That the direction
of the guy who hurled the insult or I And
I'm going, how does he know he grabbed the right phone?
There's so many people around. How does he know he
grabbed the right phone? And this is the second video
that has come out of that incident. Oh okay, you
really nothing you can hear there?
Speaker 2: Should put it up.
Speaker 1: But the so it looks like he's getting bending down
to pick up the phone, and the kid whose phone
it is pushes him. So he stumbles, stands up up
and he has the phone and the kids like, give
me my phone, and he goes, who's the faggot? Now?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Now they According to TMZ, some people are saying he
said that three times, and they only had him on
tape saying at once from what I saw, I have
no idea.
Speaker 2: So then when they went to New York at the
NFL officers to do the replay to figure out you
make the call, I think you have to. I think
you have to, I really do. But I mean we
brought a Jean's territory. Yeah, clearly Kelsey has said you know,
who's the faggot? Now about twice we think we go
hear it once, So yeah, I would definitely, Uh, I
would definitely throw the red flag on this one.
Speaker 1: I So I'm going, is he wrong? I don't know, Like,
was he getting earfulls all day?
Speaker 2: So Penn State just lost, so I'm sure he's not happy.
I'm sure he gets heckled about this stuff. Is he
a Penn State guy? I think he's a Penn State guy.
I his brother went to Cincinnati. I'm assuming he's a
Penn State guy. I mean, what happens with ESPN finds
a star, they parade them everywhere, like, oh, I don't
know Pat McAfee and who I still don't understand, but
uh Macca. But but Kelsey is like he's now behead
this Like nobody really cared about Kelsey either, Well, they
cared about Travis more than that. Jason. Jason was just
a center for the Eagles when the but he is
kind of a detention hoole. Right when the Eagles won
their Super Bowl. I guess there's these people called the
mummers who dress up in these weird outfits and in
Philadelphia and go around and do stuff or whatever. He
dressed up as a mummer and gave this huge speech
with like a lot of f bombs during the parade. Right,
people were, Oh, that's the awesome man, You're the man.
But he's a center, so you don't see centers much.
But his last name was Kelsey, and his brother's dating
the biggest pop star. All of a sudden, he goes
to a super Bowl, plays in it, loses to his brother, retires,
and all of a sudden, now he is a sensation
for no other reason the fact that, oh, look who
is brother's dating.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he was also a third round draft pick,
was he he was a.
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl or yeah? But I mean, like, who's who's
giving commercials the centers unless there's something special and unique
about him, So he's probably hurt it all by now
in this meteoric rise. I mean, he's on ESPN, he's fantastic.
But personally I don't have a problem with Kelsey did
at all?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he didn't start.
Speaker 2: We have become right, he didn't start it at all.
We have become so so comfortable in crap talking people
online and everywhere else, especially athletes, and they're all targets.
And finally he had enough, he had enough, and he
took the dude. Well, he could definitely afford to do this,
slam the phone, broke.
Speaker 1: It to Cincinnati as well.
Speaker 2: Oh did he go to Cincinnati University or something must
have set him off?
Speaker 1: Well, something must have, Okay, so who knows what it was?
Here would be my taking a look at this. Believe me,
I get it. I understand you slammed the phone. There
is not one piece of that that I can't complete.
I mean, you're talking an NFL offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Pro bowler.
Speaker 1: Why are you fucking with this guy?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And I clearly this is
a sure the alcohol had something to do with it. Well,
he's carrying garage beer.
Speaker 1: So I had to go look up Kelsey's got a
case of garage beer. I've never heard of garage beer.
I goes, that's say garage beer was I look it up?
Sure enough? He and his brother it's at Ohio. They
own this brewery called garage Beer, or they became investors
and maybe eventually bought it.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but garage.
Speaker 1: Beer is their beer. Now I want to try garage.
This could be the greatest thing for garage beer that's happened.
But that that is a word that is not acceptable anymore.
It shouldn't be.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: You know, I know we said it, but.
Speaker 2: We're just sort of we're telling a story which illustrative purposes.
We don't use that word, but we don't. Yeah, actually don't,
we don't.
Speaker 1: So, but now your life has changed to your point,
like it or not, You've had this meteoric rise, and
there's a lot of eyes and a lot of attention
on you.
Speaker 2: Like, he's probably heard more stuff in the last eighteen
months then he's probably heard in his previous like fifteen
years as an NFL player, probably, And I've heard it all,
he's hurt it all, and now he's heard it even
more of all of it because of his brother and yeah,
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: So I think when you turn around and somebody says
that about your brother and you've just had it and
you smashed their phone. But I go, this is where
like you've got to play above the noise. You need
to get security. You've got enough money, You've got this pot.
You are, I mean, you'res worth so much Now you've
just become words so much. You're in ads, You're now
on ESPN, you have a podcast that I think they
bought for one hundred million. There is a tremendous amount
of revenue tied to you. You can't be smashing it.
I don't care what anybody says. You can't if you're
if he has anybody close to him, and I'm sure
a PR agent or somebody got to him, but anybody
close to him has got to go. We need to
hire security and they got to walk with you through places.
And I know it feels stupid, but shit like that's
going to continue to happen. And you can't do this.
You can't, You just can't.
Speaker 2: You're a brand now, you are a corporation. You are
and absolutely you are the gravy trained babies you have
to have. You have to be protected. And it sucks,
but there's a price to pay for everything. And you
get one hundred million dollar podcast and Buffalo Wildwig's commercials
and a second career on ESPN and everything else in
your brewery and your brother's fame and he's dating the
most famous woman in the world as of right now,
then guess what the price of that is everyone's gonna
be in your face. And I'm not excusing that. That's
just the way it is. So now you got to
beef up security. Man, you got to be better. You
gotta protect the corporation, which is Kelsey Incorporated. Period. Although
I have no issues with him slamming that dude's phone,
because we've gotten way too brazen and comfortable when it
comes to alcohol and social media.
Speaker 1: It is it is keyboard Warrior come to the streets,
and I think it's so bad. I think the kid
when this one, like he wasn't paid attention to people
who's just walking. I think that he, Uh, what was
I going to say? I think that when that kid
was just trying to get his attention, I really do.
I think he was trying to find some way to
get his attention and then, you know, drop that one
and then they just set it off from there. Yeah.
And man, if you're.
Speaker 2: Like six ' five, like three hundred pound.
Speaker 1: Dude, Man, if you're that kid, I mean, you've got
a great story. Yeah, for the rest of your life.
I want that phone back too, because I want to
I want to see his hand going out to grab it.
Speaker 2: I want all I mean this guy's like the idiot
during the game Game four of the World Series, who's
like reaching into Mookie Bets's club. He went to school
with kronc oh Go Figure two bros. From Arizona. Man,
there's team mascot the broken condom.
Speaker 1: Well, he was, uh, he was a hockey player, right,
club hockey player exactly because I don't.
Speaker 2: Think they have a hockey They don't have a I
don't know if they have a hockey program, but it
doesn't surprise me that he's a club hockey He was
a club hockey player. And then knocking I'm not knocking
club hockey players, but we all kind of understand. It's
not You're not on a scholarship, right, your body is
not a temple. You're there to drink and play hockey.
Speaker 1: But he was. There is something about that because I said,
if that happened in Philadelphia, Dan, I think that there
would be outrage as to how shitty the Philadelphia fans
are with New York. I was sort of like, and
they got interviewed on ESPN right after they went across
the street to a bar.
Speaker 2: These guys have become someone and they made these famous Yes,
we need content, man, we need content. We get content,
more content, content content, I.
Speaker 1: Get the I get sticking a microphone in their face
saying what were you thinking, like to almost chastise them,
go what was going on? Why would you do something
that These.
Speaker 2: Guys are like, yeah, we're gonna protect the walls. Also,
they're like doing vignettes about them. They're taking pictures, people
are they're signing autographs, they're getting on television and the
come on, man, we got like, like, here's the thing.
They stopped showing streakers on during football sporting events for
a reason. Well, we haven't seen this.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the game where they've wrestled the ball
out of the guy.
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. But then that was it. That's all
they had to do is like stop showing Hey, let's
go find these eyes and see what they think was
going through their head. I was going through that they're idiots,
Well what idiots do? It wouldn't have stopped, It wouldn't
have stopped to play from what from from being called out?
What was the gain? They wanted the ball, We wanted
to break his wrist.
Speaker 1: I think they threw the ball back on the field.
I think they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right, or maybe in the scuffle dropped it.
I don't mean, oh my gosh, season ticket holders. There
was even a debate on whether or not they would
be able to come back the next night. There was
a debate. I didn't they didn't come back. They didn't,
but there was like the Yankees, well there are season
ticket holders.
Speaker 1: So what I know that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember we talked about protective player? Yes, well
do you remember? I mean, if you're not safe on
the field, then what are you doing? Yeah? What are
you doing? Do you remember the story about ten fifteen
years ago a PR guy I want to name the
PR company, but I won't because I don't want to
get it wrong. Guys in the upper deck at Ralph
Wilson Stadium during the Bill's game the second quarter, he's wasted, yes,
and he falls off the balcony, slides, slides down the balcony,
falls lands on a dude. The guys still like the
guy he landed on is still like in crippling pain
because of this incident, and the PR agency, because it's
public relations, fired the dude when the guy's name got out,
because that's that's bad. Pre are that's your job, and
you even in your off hours.
Speaker 1: You're still sliding down the banish banister of the upper deck,
upper deck, and he fell off and you just see,
like you see it, you like, can't believe it's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody it was the stadium was, well, here's vehicle,
here's what happened. No, it was there were between quarters. Yeah,
so like, welcome back to Orchard Park. The bills are
down seventy two nothing in the second quarter. It was
on TV. It was a rainy day, and all of
a sudden, you see like this drop in the middle
of the space of you see the sky, you see
the stadium, you see the upper deck, the lower deck,
then the sky's in the backdrop black dot. Yeah, just go.
And I was like, well that was weird. The not
just didn't mention it, but you saw something fall. And
then later on the repl oh yeah, yeah that's what
it was. It was this dude. I think it was
a Greg section if I'm not mistaken or above Greg's section.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. It might
yeah it might have been. I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's terrible. All right, So what are the things
that people have to protect themselves from right, you've got
if your family's got to protect yourself from fans. And
then there's this story in the Times Wayne County where
all of a sudden, you've got a couple of I
guess it's a mother and her friend. I have no idea.
One woman's forty, one woman's fifty eight. They show up
at the Sodas Intermediate School at like noon.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're there to complain time. I have no
idea teacher, meet with the teacher.
Speaker 1: They're at the Soda Central Intermediate School. The school's resource
officer was summoned to the front office where the disturbance
was occurring and advised women that they needed to leave
the premises. So they're yelling about something maybe I don't know,
waste something went down with the kid or whatever. Then
they became combative, with the officer hitting him and then
resisting arrest. It's also alleged that during the altercation a
kid was president in the office to see all this,
but nothing happened. The kid was fine. It never got
involved in any of this. And then one woman was
charged with assault the second degree. Here's my question, if
this is your mom, how can you even go back.
What do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm what do you think? Here's your mom a hero.
Here's what I've learned. I probably would have been really
embarrassed because that would have been totally out of character
for my mother to do something like that. I know that,
like anybody who's if you don't have the right mental makeup,
that that could ruin your life as a kid. But
I do know there were kids whose mothers did stupid
stuff and the kids like, yeah, that's my stupid mother.
And if they made fun of it along with everybody else,
your kids left him alone. Yeah, you know. But if
you're one of those kids who doesn't talk much or
is quiet, and your mother comes in embarrassing, or you're
a trouble making kid, then you're gonna be a pariah.
Speaker 1: I'll always say, there's two sides every story, right, So
maybe you feel like your kid's being mistreated at school
something like that, But all these things, Jason Kelsey, these people,
don't put your hands on anybody else's anything.
Speaker 2: You don't need to.
Speaker 1: That's just it. I get Jason Kelsey smashing the phone.
I can understand if you feel like your kids getting hot,
just don't put your hands on somebody. You do is
make it fucking worse. In some way, you may becomes assault.
I do think that Jason Kelsey thing. People are gonna go,
I get it, fine, blah blah, it's just the kid's phone.
He didn't smash the kid, Okay, But this case, they're
not going to say that you put your hands on
an officer.
Speaker 2: You can't do that.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what goes on in these schools,
but parents can be that's brutal.
Speaker 2: I think, you know well. I mean they say pretty
girls in sports will make a man do anything. I
think that your children will also like.
Speaker 1: Try to do. But I mean you have to also
be tempered in it because you thing is not everybody is.
You don't want it takes the worse for the kid.
Speaker 2: But it takes a certain type of personality to actually
say I'm going to get in the car, I'm going
to drive to the school. I'm going to get out
of the car. So we've already made the decision. We're
going out of the car, We're going to the school.
Were you going to the office, and we're gonna go
in front of somebody. That's like multiple decisions. It is
no point in your head, does somebody go all of Hey, Joan,
you may want to just take a deep breath and
let the just let the adults handle this. And then
even when they get there, there's no stopping you from
putting your hands on somebody when they're telling you, no,
you can't talk to the Prince. No, no, I mean
you can't talk.
Speaker 1: This is where you need to do the Lincoln letter. Yes,
and to a certain degree, even if it's just talk
yelling into your phone do your douchebag teacher. No, But
I mean even yelling into your phone of something right,
because you can't go with that because all it's gonna
do is make every everything worse. And you think whatever's
happening to your kid or whatever went on, it's gonna
be the same or worse.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're not going to make it better. No, you're
not going to make it better.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, the same thing with Jason Kelsey.
No matter what. Sometimes that knee jerk reaction is the
worst reaction to have, and yet everybody's got it and
I understand it, but man, you gotta really almost try
to think a step ahead, or I do this. What's next?
Speaker 2: Right? And what happened and if you really feel hell
bent on Like, there's a show called The Irrational. It's
on NBC. It's actually pretty good, And they did this study.
They showed about this study and they said that what
people have in mind for revenge, nothing will stop them. Right,
It's almost impossible to stop somebody with a mind from revenge.
So it sounds like somebody wanted revenge to me. If
you're hell bent on revenge, okay, then you got to
be smart about it and do it in a way
that like it's going to make people think and maybe
reconsider their position. Okay, you may not win, but at
least get them to you might want to scare them,
but in a smart way. Right, Like, I had an
incident where not in my life, but I have a
family member who started dating a woman and he ended
up marrying her and he was dating but she was
married to somebody else first. They got divorced. So this
guy got jealous, so he started doing threatening things to
my cousin. Right, So we got a pretty big family
and they did a little recount work and found out
that the ex husband actually like was working, but was
collecting unemployment. It's like, okay, so he calls one of
his bigger cousins and goes, hey, can you help me?
I goes, yeah, sure. He drives to the dude's place
where he's working under the table and goes, hey, are
you so and so? Because yeah, okay, walks out. The
guy starts chasing him down. What do you mean? He
gets in his car. He just looks at him because
I just wanted who you were, that's all. And it
freaked him out. It freaked him out. He thought it
was like insurance or unemployment, like spying on him, and
he stopped. He figured out what it was and he stopped.
You gotta kind of out smart people. And I'm not
saying like that's a good thing to do, but at
least come in with like, like be smart about it.
Speaker 1: I would say that, how do I tell this story?
I there was something that has happened, and I have
often thought, while you know that there's several sides to
a story, somebody's running with one side of the story,
and it has been very vocal about it. Well, let
me tell my side of the story. And I called
the friend who somebody who's well known, and I call
them and we talked and the person said to me,
what happens the next day? What happens the next day?
You know? And so what happens with Jason Kelsey? Can
this kid try to sue him? Are you tied up
in legal fees? You have to pay a lawyer now
even if it's nothing, and it just goes away. So
it's just a hassle, that's all I'm saying. You know
what happens to these people now they have to go
to court because they did something and all you wanted
to do was try to protect your kid. All I'm
saying is just you gotta think that one extra step
a little bit and go, well, this isn't going to
get me where I want the best revenge. Nothing sucks
like someone else's success. Yes, so if you feel well, yes,
just keep going about your business and stop worrying about
I mean, I've said it a million times in the podcast,
what other people think of you as none of your business?
Speaker 2: Easy to say, super easy.
Speaker 1: Sounds great, should be on a T shirt, But it
is very hard because we live in a world, especially
with social media, where we see what everybody else is doing.
We're constantly comparing, we're constantly doing that. You can't do it.
You can't and you know you want to get from
A to B. You may not be able to get
from A to B today, but you can probably get
from A to A point two to eight point three
till you're at B. And that that that's what I'm
I'm trying to say. And I see these stories and
I go, boy, there's a thing here where you've got people.
No one knows who these people and sodas are. And
Jason Kelce many people know who he is. Either way,
behavior similar in a situation you're frustrated, you got to
you gotta stop. One was Jason Kelsey was in the moment.
These people obviously thought it out. I'm going up to
that school and now I'm gonna set them straight.
Speaker 2: Well you can't, right, you can't. The other thing two
with Jason Kelsey, it's like now, all of a sudden,
people know how to get to you. I mean, you're
an offensive line. You're supposed to one of the smart guys, yeah,
on a very smart sport, And all of a sudden,
that's how you react because the guys, I mean, who
cares if the guy calls your brother that word sticks
and stones, life comes out. Sticks and stones may break
my bones but names will never hurt me. It's true. Yeah,
it's true.
Speaker 1: I know hurt me, but they hurt. They want to
come back, and you want to like they do.
Speaker 2: But you have to think a big picture. You gotta
be smarter than that. I don't blame him for doing it.
I get it. I think more got more punks like
that should be put in their place. But now he
has to deal with the repercussions of it, and he
needed to be smarter than that. He's gonna be a
target because his brother got called that name. Like, people
can call me names all they want, Fine, whatever, if
they're not true, I'm sure put people on their show.
We do. We get right in your fair we tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all guys, name.
Speaker 2: You conspiracy, you turny Christian hypocrite, you daddy. We'll close
it out real quick before you closed show. Yes, you
had kids who for Halloween they trussed up? Did you?
Did you have a kid who like got a little
too into character on Halloween? No, my nephew, What do
you mean how old is he? My nephew's three years old. Yeah,
just a little kid dressed up as the Incredible Hulk. Okay,
so he's in his outfit. Yeah, he walked around the
neighborhood punching people, calling him punks, even strangers.
Speaker 1: The Incredible Hult, Yeah, the Incredible Hulk.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh man, he's really getting into character. Yeah,
do you ever have a kid do that?
Speaker 1: I got very into character when I was Superman, but
I didn't punch anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys try to fly off buildings.
Speaker 1: And I tried to know. I said, I couldn't drink.
I talked about this earlier this week. I couldn't drink
and fly, so because that's his Superman said in the
movie when I was like, your father flipped out and
my father flipped out, and then I used to try to.
I always wish I had X ray vision. I want
to see what the girls were wearing. Other than that, No,
I don't even remember my guys getting too into character. Oh, Batman, Yes,
Jordan would with Batman. Jordan talks like this boy Batman Jordan,
who uh uh I has to have surgery on the shoulder.
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, is that gonna hurt track season? Is he done?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Tore his uh Labraham and fractured the bone where
it goes into the shoulder and.
Speaker 2: Has to was he throwing curveballs.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. It was lifting. He was lifting,
oh man, whatever that set them back. But yes, uh, well,
if you go around punching people, then maybe you don't
get to get You're free, right, Molly my god, daddy,
it's free.
Speaker 2: It's an election day. If you like the way things
are going, keep voting that.
Speaker 1: With day, Daddy, it's election day.
Speaker 2: That's not a very Christian thing to say. Punch Joe Morelli.
I didn't. I said. I wish my nephew who was three,
he couldn't hurt anybody for Dan Brello. You know where
he's votes. I'm vote every I'm voting everybody out.
Speaker 1: I'm voting everybody out. We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: They were looking borrow with Tennessee Society of California, by
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