1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button, get every episode for free, write to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,240 your support. So what if there was a government shutdown 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,399 and nobody seemed to care? What are? What are we 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,759 in day forty two? I think of the shutdown? Is 12 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,679 that where we are? I feel like we I don't 13 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:49,359 even know. I don't even know. They did another vote yesterday. 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Let me pull out the the Reuter's piece here, Yes, okay? 15 00:00:57,799 --> 00:01:04,560 US President Donald Trump's administration froze twenty six billion dollars 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,439 for Democrat leaning states, following through on a threat to 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:15,640 use the government shutdown to target Democrats' priorities. And by 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,000 the way, everybody knew this was going to happen. Not 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,359 only did Donald Trump like tweet about it or truth 20 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:27,640 about or social what do they call them? Truth? Social? 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,120 He said it, He was like, yeah, we'll start shutting 22 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:36,159 down stuff in these in these blue states. And then 23 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:39,680 of course democrats and media, but I repeat myself, they 24 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,599 were like, oh my gosh, he's weaponizing this shutdown. Okay, well, 25 00:01:43,719 --> 00:01:47,519 you guys shut it down and spare me the arguments 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,239 about this being a Republican shutdown because they controlled both 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,840 the House and Senate and the presidency. Yeah, you need 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,200 sixty votes in the Senate. People, that's not a Republican shutdown. 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,400 They may have a majority, they do not have a 30 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:02,480 sixty vote majority, so they need some Democrats to go along. 31 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:06,239 And when no Democrats go along, they control the outcome. 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,800 They have the power to shut down the government. And 33 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,280 this was the standard, by the way, that was always 34 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,159 in play when the Republicans were the ones shutting down 35 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:19,680 the government. So anyway, you've got the you got the 36 00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:22,080 president out there saying well, yeah, of course we're gonna, 37 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,879 you know, make it hurt you guys because you're the 38 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:27,919 ones doing it. We're going to you know, put you 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:34,639 guys into this vice grip between your base and your constituents. 40 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:37,960 And then at some point, like you'll have to figure 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:44,599 out who you value more. Right, But of course we 42 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,719 also knew that there was going to be the headlines 43 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:51,240 and the reporting, because once you start seeing the legacy 44 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:56,520 media outlets, as you know, the comms shop for the 45 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,360 Democrat Party, a lot of the reporting and the narrative 46 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,280 crafting makes a lot more sense. And so they were 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,240 of course going to use these headlines. Of course they 48 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,199 were going to say this. And the Republicans don't care 49 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,400 anymore like Donald Trump does not care. Republicans do not 50 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:17,479 care about the way the media is framing this any longer. 51 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:20,759 Let me jump over before I go back to the 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,159 Reuter's story. This is John Hendraker over at the power 53 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:28,800 Line blog. Trump says he will take advantage of the 54 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,240 shutdown to enact a reduction in force or a RIFF, 55 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,560 if you will, an RIF laying off large but unspecified 56 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:40,240 numbers of government workers. This is on top of the 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,319 one hundred thousand workers who have just taken advantage of 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,240 the administration's deferred resignation program. He says, I also think 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,759 most voters have seen enough shut down drama to understand 60 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,680 that it is much ado about very little, and the 61 00:03:55,719 --> 00:03:58,639 goals that the Democrats are trying to achieve, you know, 62 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,120 another trillion dollars and spending are unpopular with most voters. 63 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:08,439 Ed Morrissey agreed over at hot air dot Com, saying, 64 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,599 I also don't think most voters care. This is inside 65 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:14,800 the Beltway drama for now, and it only matters to 66 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,920 the extremely online and the deeply invested partisans. He goes 67 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,279 on to say, it looks like the Democrats forgot how 68 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,680 shutdowns work. They just enabled doge on steroids. The director 69 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,319 of the Office of Management and Budget, the OMB office, 70 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:38,120 Russ Vote, who, by the way, former Congressman Dan Bishop 71 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,439 works for OMB. Now he works for Russ Vote. Ed 72 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,920 Morrissey says, this is Russ Vote's fantasy life and it 73 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:50,879 will only get worse from here. Right, You've just empowered 74 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,680 the guy who wants to fire a whole bunch of 75 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,800 federal workers. You just shut down the government, put everybody 76 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,000 on furlough, and now we're going to know who's essential 77 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,800 and who's not. And if you're a non essential employee, 78 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,680 then I don't think you probably are coming back. Thank 79 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,639 you Democrats for that. Morrissey goes on to say, expect 80 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,439 to see a lot of the journal list. Remember that 81 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:18,839 the journ o list for people who don't remember This 82 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,439 was exposed back in the early days, those wild West 83 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,160 days of the interweb, when there were list serves. People 84 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,319 would sign up, and I mean really it was like 85 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:32,800 a mass distribution and interaction platform before the rise of 86 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,879 social media and the group chats and stuff like that. 87 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:40,199 And there was a list serve that was created by 88 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:46,120 some reporters in the DC, well probably the essella quarter 89 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,920 from d C up to New York and Boston, right 90 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:54,000 the elites at the major publications and such, and they 91 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,519 had this list. They called it the journal List. Get 92 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:04,279 a journalist, journal list, and they coordinated coverage like you 93 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,199 could you because somebody got on, somebody got access into 94 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,600 the journalist and then they published him. I think it 95 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,680 was the Daily Caller that published a whole mess of 96 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:22,000 the of the messages. And you see these reporters literally 97 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,639 coordinating and then even bullying other reporters into covering things 98 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,879 through a certain lens, which we all knew was happening, 99 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,279 but now this was confirmed like this, they literally are 100 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:41,000 coordinating the coverage. So Morrissey says, expect to see a 101 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,240 lot of journalist narratives about vengeance, nastiness, partisanship, and so on. 102 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:51,199 Trump won't care, and neither will vote. Republicans in Congress 103 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,839 may get some pressure on the margins, but the onus 104 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:57,800 will be on the people who enabled this strategy from 105 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,199 Trump and Vote right, Trump and Vote are taking advantage 106 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,279 of the strategy you employed, Chuck Schumer, like this was 107 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,480 their idea. They wanted to do this. Remember the vote 108 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,160 to pass the Continuing Resolution, which I am not a 109 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,160 fan of, by the way, Like I would, I want budgets. 110 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,759 I want regular order restored to Congress. We have not 111 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,000 had a budget in Congress in I don't even know 112 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,240 how long, fifteen years. We just get this constant brinksmanship. 113 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,600 We gotta, oh, we gotta lift the debt ceiling by tomorrow. 114 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:35,600 Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, we're gonna default on 115 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:38,079 the debt. And everybody's like, ah, running around, pants on fire, 116 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:42,319 hair on fire. I should say, well, both probably, and 117 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:47,519 I think we've been through this so many times, like yeah, 118 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:52,279 we don't care until like it actually starts hurting. So 119 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:55,319 there's that. There's also this idea that, oh my god, 120 00:07:55,639 --> 00:08:01,680 Donald Trump is hurting his political enemies. I'm old enough 121 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:08,879 to remember when Barack Obama's administration in the first shutdown 122 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,120 of my lifetime that I remember when this thing first 123 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,519 started up. It was I believe the Tea partiers who 124 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,519 tried to force a restraint in spending with a budget 125 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:25,240 vote in a cr The Obama administration closed national parks 126 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,959 and went further. Remember they closed sidewalks to prevent World 127 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:34,159 War II veterans from laying eyes on the memorial that 128 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:39,399 was just finished for them. And it was basically a sidewalk, right, 129 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,639 It's an open air concrete plaza kind of a thing. 130 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,440 And they put up barriers around it, and you had 131 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,559 hero flights that were flying in bringing these veterans to 132 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,759 see their memorial. And spoiler alert, you know, if the 133 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:58,759 Nazis on the beach at Normandy couldn't stop these guys, 134 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,080 your little class, the barriers didn't stand a chance, right, 135 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,639 They just pushed those things aside and they rolled in 136 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,480 in their wheelchairs. They did not care. Okay. You also 137 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,679 had the Obama administration blocking off the side of the road, 138 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:14,879 the shoulder on a road so you could not pull 139 00:09:14,879 --> 00:09:17,399 over and take a picture of Mount Rushmore. They put 140 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,720 up a barrier around Old Faithful, the guyser. You know, 141 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:23,879 they put a barrier around so you couldn't get close 142 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:26,879 to the you couldn't take a picture, so don't tell 143 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:29,759 me that. Now you're like, oh my gosh, political enemies. 144 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,159 That was what Obama did I remember. You know. Stories 145 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,399 are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to 146 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:38,960 understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our 147 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,480 past while transcending generations. 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They'll be ready in a week or two. 157 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:17,399 Memorial videos for your loved ones, videos for rehearsal, dinners, weddings, graduations, Christmas, 158 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:21,679 family vacations, birthdays, or just your family stories all told 159 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,440 through images. That's what your photos and videos are. They 160 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,320 are your life told through the eyes of everyone around 161 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,600 you and all who came before you, and they will 162 00:10:30,639 --> 00:10:34,000 tell others to come. Who you are, visit Creative video 163 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 dot Com. Let's go over to the phone and George 164 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,320 has called it. Hello George, welcome to the show. 165 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,639 Speaker 2: Hi Pete. Thank you. When you talked about let's have 166 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:46,559 a budget, I just added dial up. I'm sorry, man, 167 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,480 we need that so bad, and I want to applaud 168 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:56,879 you for speaking those forbidden words in public. Get that budget, people, 169 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,639 That's why we sent you to Congress. 170 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:01,759 Speaker 1: Now, I will say, in Congress's defense, I think because 171 00:11:01,759 --> 00:11:06,080 there's twelve appropriations bills and I want to say they did, 172 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,200 I think they've done more than half of them. So 173 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:11,000 that's progress. 174 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Ye, right, it is progress. It is progress. But here, 175 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,480 in my opinion, Peete, most of the things that are 176 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:28,759 conservatives in particular want to see done would be accomplished 177 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:32,759 if we simply made the balance the budget balance, because 178 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,559 there wouldn't be money for this stupid stuff. 179 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:37,879 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if that's I don't know if 180 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:42,559 I think they would find ways to do things they 181 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,039 you know, that they want to do. They would have 182 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,840 all sorts of budget tricks and gimmicks and stuff like that, 183 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:51,240 you know, because the federal budget they do like these 184 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:54,000 ten year projections, and so they're like, we're going to 185 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,879 do this now and it'll get paid for in ten 186 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,799 years from now. It's like, and then of course it 187 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,639 never gets paid for. So exactly, but I think it would. 188 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,000 I think it would restrain it to some degree. I 189 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,480 think you are right exactly. It would restrain the growth 190 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,879 versus what we have seen with this budgeting by brinksmanship. 191 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And just one last thing. So I'm a Pat 192 00:12:19,759 --> 00:12:24,879 Harrigan supporter voter, A campaigned for him last year, and 193 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:29,519 when he came back to Ardeau County last spring, I 194 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,960 was in a meeting with him and I confronted him 195 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,480 and I said, how could you vote for that budget 196 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:39,480 that rejected seven trillion in expenditures on five trillion in revenue. 197 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:43,919 And his answer, after he kind of you know, swallowed 198 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:49,000 hard and regained his composure, his answer was President Trump 199 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,600 didn't run on balancing the budget. And I thought, oh 200 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:55,320 my god, Pat, you know, have we lost you already? 201 00:12:56,159 --> 00:13:02,440 So the corruption in DC is terminal. I'm not sure 202 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,120 what we're going to do to fix it. But yeah, well, 203 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,840 good people to d C and in six months their 204 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:09,600 their toast. 205 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: So the Republican Party has not done a good job 206 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:19,000 of balancing budgets since Clinton was president, right, So like there, 207 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,720 so that it's on brand, right, I mean, the only 208 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,559 difference between the Democrats and the Republicans on this matter 209 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:28,120 is that, you know, Democrats don't promise to balance a 210 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,240 budget and Republicans have. And that has been a difference 211 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,360 with Donald Trump, who I always point out was a 212 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,559 lifelong Democrat before he became a Republican right a couple 213 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,120 of years back. So so this, the fiscal discipline has 214 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,879 never been part of Trump's pitch, and so Harrigan is correct. Now, 215 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,480 the fiscal discipline was the pitch of the Republicans, but 216 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:55,519 then they just never followed through on it. So I 217 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:58,159 guess at least now they're more honest about it. 218 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need your voice, s feet, God bless you 219 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,840 stay healthy. 220 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate that, George. Take care. Yeah, I 221 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,000 mean it's disappointing, but I've you know, this is why, Look, 222 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:10,919 I tell people this all the time, never fall in 223 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,480 love with a politician, okay, because they're going to break 224 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,519 your heart. They always do. So you're you need to 225 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:24,639 view these relationships as transactional because that's what they are. Like, 226 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:27,759 I want you to go do this thing, and you 227 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,080 will disappoint me because you're going to disagree with me 228 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:37,320 on something. Because nobody agrees with me on everything. I know. 229 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:39,519 There are a lot of people with the wrong opinion 230 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:41,879 about a lot of things. I don't understand it. But 231 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,320 we're gonna you know, they're not going to vote the 232 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,919 way I want them to vote on everything on But 233 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,720 so you have to look at it like on balance, 234 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:54,120 what are they saying? What are they doing? And I've 235 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:58,360 known for years, I don't know how long now, ten years, 236 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,919 fifteen years, Republican pay the lip service to fiscal discipline, 237 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:07,399 but they never deliver. And at least they made some 238 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,879 progress this year towards some appropriations bills being done. But 239 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,200 I'll believe it when I see it, you know, I'll 240 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,799 believe this idea that they will get that done, they'll 241 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:20,159 return to regular order. I'll believe it when I see it. 242 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Because there are too many incentives for continuing the way 243 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,159 we are continuing with the brinksmanship, because it gives you 244 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,240 all these different levers to pull and ways to put 245 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:34,759 money in and put everybody on a deadline. Look, anybody 246 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:38,720 in sales knows this. With a you apply pressure. When 247 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:41,559 you're trying to make the sale right, you apply pressure. 248 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:43,960 And you could do that in a bunch of different ways. 249 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,720 One of them is to create the sense of urgency. 250 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:51,000 And so you're creating a sense of urgency by saying 251 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,919 we have to do it by this day, by this time, 252 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,080 and if we don't get it done, everything stops and 253 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,679 oh my gosh, end of the world. So both parties 254 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:04,120 know how this works. Well, I thought both parties knew. 255 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:07,960 Democrats apparently forgot. And here's the problem with these shutdowns, 256 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,480 which by the way, I'm not opposed to, right because 257 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:14,720 the only thing that to me is scarier than a 258 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:18,519 shutdown is when government is actually still functioning, Like that's 259 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:22,399 I don't I am totally fine with gridlock. I'm totally 260 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,080 fine with them not getting anything done. I'm totally fine 261 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,639 with them not like just stop doing what you're doing, 262 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:31,320 you know. So I'm okay with a shutdown. The people 263 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,279 who are not getting paid they will then get their 264 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,240 salt or their paychecks when government reopens. But the problem 265 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:40,759 with the shutdown, which people should have learned by now 266 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:42,759 because there have been what a dozen of them or so, 267 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:48,080 is that there's no off ramp for the party that 268 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,679 shuts it down to try to, you know, draw a 269 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,240 line in the sands someplace, like what's the off ramp 270 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:56,759 for you guys here? You're like, we're not going to 271 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,759 vote for this continuing resolution unless we get a trillion 272 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:05,359 dollars in new spending. That's what the Democrats are saying. 273 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,559 So if you don't get the trillion dollars, you can 274 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:12,079 never vote for that unless you then cave. And that 275 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,759 doesn't look good. So what are you gonna do? Where's 276 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:19,640 your row ramp? Here? You're holding out hope that they'll 277 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,839 give you half of that loaf of bread and then 278 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,880 you'll come back and fight for the other half. You're 279 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:30,599 dealing with Trump and Russ vote. They don't want the 280 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:36,359 government operating at the full employee headcount that you wanted to. 281 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,640 They don't want to fund these things, so you shutting 282 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,079 down the government. It doesn't matter to them. Russ votes happy. 283 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,640 He's fixing to draw up the list of all the 284 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,119 positions and programs and grants and stuff to stop funding. 285 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:54,160 They're working on it. They've already announced some of them. 286 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Eighteen billion for transit projects in New York, another eight 287 00:17:57,279 --> 00:18:01,000 billion for green energy projects. And sixteen Democrat run states. 288 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:05,480 There's your twenty six billion dollars that blue states now 289 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:10,559 are losing thanks to Democrats. Don't throw us in that 290 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:11,279 briar bratch. 291 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, 292 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,160 and before he died, my mom and my dad took 293 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,440 care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago, 294 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:24,599 there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers 295 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:27,200 and family. But things are different today because of the 296 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,400 work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of 297 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,039 Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with 298 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,960 huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years. 299 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,319 This cause means a lot to me. I participate in 300 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,200 the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a 301 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:46,400 Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again 302 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:48,880 Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join 303 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,759 the team and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth 304 00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:55,799 that truest field. Sign up at alz dot org slash 305 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 walk and then you could search for my team name 306 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,039 Pete's Pack. There's also an at thepeatpod dot com. There's 307 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:04,119 also a link in the description of this podcast. 308 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: Also, I'll be seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh then, 309 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,519 so you can make a team and join that one too, 310 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,799 or make a donation and help me hit my goal 311 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,759 of five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it. 312 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:18,440 There are a bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. 313 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:21,240 You can go to alz dot org slash walk for 314 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,079 all the dates and locations. We're closer than ever to 315 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,480 stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us get there? Will you 316 00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:27,000 walk with me? 317 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments. 318 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,599 This is why we walk. 319 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Alrighty, So back to the Reuter's story here on the 320 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:44,279 government shutdown, the Shuma shutdown. This is Reuter's. Keep in mind, 321 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,000 the moves made clear that Trump would carry out his 322 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,480 threat to take advantage of the shutdown to punish his 323 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:53,759 political opponents. Everything is cast through this prism and extend 324 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:57,160 his control over the seven trillion dollar federal budget established 325 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,559 by the US Constitution as the domain of Congress. Oh 326 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:06,720 so wait, okay, so now now, now we're wanting Congress 327 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:11,920 to do a budget Reuters. Congress passed a clean cr 328 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:17,279 and Democrats voted it down. Democrats refused to support it. 329 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:21,759 And so when there is no CR, there's no approved budget. 330 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:24,880 Executive is going to be managing the budget. Now, if 331 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,319 you don't like it, then go ahead and past the CR. 332 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,440 That's the off ramp. But you can't take it for 333 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:36,440 political reasons, internal Democrat political reasons. I'll get to that 334 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,640 some seven hundred and fifty thousand federal workers were ordered 335 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,960 not to work. Well, isn't that just like I don't 336 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,160 know every day that I kid I kid the federal workers. 337 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,400 Others such as American troops Border patrol agents, they are 338 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,799 working without pay, but again they will be paid after 339 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:03,440 the government reopened. The Department of Veterans' Affairs said it 340 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,359 would provide burials at national cemeteries, but would not put 341 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,200 up the headstones or mow the grass in the interim. JD. 342 00:21:11,319 --> 00:21:14,160 Vance said at a White House briefing that the administration 343 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,000 would be forced to resort to layoffs if the shutout 344 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,759 shutdown rather lasts more than a few days, adding to 345 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:23,440 the three hundred thousand who will be pushed out by 346 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,920 the end of the year. Previous shutdowns have not resulted 347 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,920 in permanent layoffs because the Democrat presidents didn't want to 348 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,759 do that. The US Patent and Trademark Office said it 349 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:39,000 would layoff one percent of its fourteen thousand employees. See, 350 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,519 this is one of the things that never happens in 351 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:44,920 gov co. In the private sector, you do a reduction 352 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:50,720 in force when you achieve efficiencies. Now sometimes obviously you're expanding, 353 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:53,519 your business is growing, so you need to add more people. 354 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,960 But even when you do that, you're always looking for efficiencies. 355 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,599 And when new technology becomes available, or you know, you've 356 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:05,480 got higher profits and so now you can implement new 357 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,400 equipment or something that now you don't need six people 358 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,680 to do the job, now you need five people. So 359 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,680 private businesses are always doing this sort of this brush 360 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:22,119 clearing the undergrowth, right, because the larger an organization gets, 361 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,160 the more of that you get. It's just sort of 362 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,559 the natural tendency of large organizations, and the government is 363 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:32,759 a very very very large one. But the people who 364 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:38,720 would be making those decisions have an incentive to not 365 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,440 fire workers because those workers get to vote on whether 366 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:48,119 the ones doing the firing get back into their jobs too. 367 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,640 So it's like a mutually assured destruction kind of a scenario. 368 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,400 There so there's an incentive for elected officials not to 369 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,039 do this. Republican Senate leader On Thune dismissed concerns that 370 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:04,920 the spending freeze amounted to hostage taking, which is what 371 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Democrats are saying now. And so for the record, in 372 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,759 case you are confused by this term now being applied 373 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,839 to the Republicans when they're not the ones that are 374 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,960 blocking the passage, here's the rule. When the Republicans block 375 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,079 a continuing resolution and shut the government down, that is 376 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,119 called hostage taking. Taking the American public hostage right. When 377 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,839 the GOP does the shutdown, it's a hostage taking. When 378 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,519 the Democrats block a continuing resolution forcing a shut down, 379 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,079 the Republicans are also doing the hostage taking. Okay, so 380 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,559 that was unclear before. That's the rule. In other words, 381 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,680 the Republicans are the only ones that know how to 382 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,960 do the hostage taking. Apparently Thune said, well, vote to 383 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,200 open up the government and that issue goes away, right, 384 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,920 I mean, it's pretty straightforward. Indeed, US Republicans hold a 385 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,200 fifty three to forty seven Senate majority, but they need 386 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,279 the support of at least seven Democrats to meet the 387 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,599 Chambers sixty vote threshold for the spending bills. Democrats say 388 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Republicans are responsible for the disruption because they control the House, 389 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:17,039 the Senate, and the White House. But again, they don't 390 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,240 have a veto proof. They don't or not veto birth. 391 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,000 They can't get past the filibuster, which is sixty vote threshold. 392 00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:27,640 They need sixty votes and so they need seven Democrats, 393 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,039 and seven Democrats have not agreed. They had three, so 394 00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:33,799 they need four more. Republicans say Democrats were surrendering to 395 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,440 partisan pressures to oppose Donald Trump, even though they have 396 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,759 routinely backed spending bills in the past. They also repeated 397 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,200 a false claim. This is what Reuters calls a false 398 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,039 claim that the Democrat proposal would extend health coverage to 399 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:50,319 people who are in the country illegally. Not a false claim, 400 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000 actually true, Reuters. It's actually true. According to the nonpartisan CBO, 401 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:01,079 the Democrat plan would only restore coverage to certain categories 402 00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:04,839 of immigrants who are in the country legally, like asylum 403 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,039 seekers and people on work visas. I'm gonna explain why 404 00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,960 this is problematic here, because what Republicans are saying is 405 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:17,279 true that you are giving it to illegal immigrants. But 406 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,680 what Democrats are doing is using parolees. They're saying it's 407 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:30,240 parolees which were admitted n mass under the previous administration illegally, 408 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,960 So that was supposed to be done on a case 409 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,440 by case basis, but Alexandro Majorcus gave everybody parole status. 410 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Here's a great idea. 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I did see doctor Greg Murphy, congressman from 440 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,640 North Carolina down east. He said he is he has 441 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,160 told the payroll office or whatever he's like, don't give 442 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,319 me any pay so he's not taking a check. He's 443 00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,200 not taken a salary while the government is shut down. 444 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,599 An anti Israel troll says it's time for Democrat states 445 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,480 like California, Illinois, and New York to escrow all federal 446 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:51,519 tax payments until the punitive leadership stops. California alone could 447 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:59,400 bankrupt the United States. Dude, we are like forty trillion 448 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,480 dollars in dead already, we are already bankrupt. So good 449 00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:09,880 luck with that. Give it a shot. Yes, but you 450 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,559 want escalation. See, this is what democrats, this is what 451 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:16,279 they want when they're not in power, is the constant escalation. 452 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,599 This is what the authors of the Fourth Turning predicted 453 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,680 with this nullification fight, where you have a state versus 454 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,160 the Feds and they just keep ramping up against one 455 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,319 another and there's no off ramp for either of them, 456 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,000 and then you end up with nullification crisis. And then 457 00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:40,519 you end up with a crisis, and that can be 458 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,000 very bad. And every time you end up in this cycle, 459 00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,359 this fourth turning, each turning lasts about twenty years. We're 460 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,079 due for one. And every time you end up with 461 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:51,880 this kind of a turning in this winter season, if 462 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,839 you will, it's very bloody. A lot of violence, a 463 00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,279 lot of people die, and there are a lot of 464 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:02,599 people who want that to happen in America. It's unfortunate. 465 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:09,160 I disagree with that. I think these people are ridiculously naive. 466 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,319 They think it's not going to affect them. They think 467 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:16,319 this is how we win, and you are so incorrect. 468 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:25,160 Everybody just loses. This is from Jim who says the 469 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,000 federal government shut down just two weeks to flatten the curve. 470 00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:35,839 There you go, Let me give you the politics of this. 471 00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,880 This actually, I mean, it's being called the Schumer shutdown, 472 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,599 and I understand why. Yes, but it might also be 473 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,640 called the AOC shutdown. Here's why, David stromatotair dot com. 474 00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,279 Republicans are correct to label this the Schumer shutdown. It 475 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,119 is indeed Chuck Schumer who is the Senate minority leader, 476 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:59,240 and he's making the decisions. Obviously, Democrats hope that picking 477 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,799 this fight with the president will redown to their benefit, 478 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440 about which they may be very mistaken, but time will tell. See. 479 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,640 This is also what Democrat voters are demanding. The base 480 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,440 is demanding Democrats take a bullet. That's what like they 481 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,559 they When you look at the polling, I've covered this 482 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200 over the last six months or so, like they're angry 483 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,519 at the Democrat Party because the party is not doing 484 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,599 enough to fight Trump. That's why they're cursing all the time. 485 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:29,960 That's why they're picking fights, and that's why they're doing this. 486 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,640 They're trying to send a message to their base that 487 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,640 they are tough, that I'm gonna fight the orange hitler, 488 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,000 like that's what they're trying to do. So for Schumer, 489 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,759 this is a more personal thing, though, because he is 490 00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,960 almost certainly facing a primary challenge from AOC who has 491 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,319 made no secret that she wants credit for the shutdown. 492 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,559 She has been inviting senators to her office to negotiate 493 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:56,920 a solution to the standoff. She's being portrayed as a 494 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:02,759 powerbroker in the Democrat Party, and the current griontocracy is 495 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:05,880 not at all pleased by this. The socialist wing of 496 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,400 the Democrat Party hold the influence cards right now. The 497 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,880 capitulation to an avowed socialist, The word democrat is silent 498 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,680 on that one. By the way, the first rung on 499 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,119 the it's the first rung on the ladder to communism, 500 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,839 and it should alarm Americans today. The Democrats are being 501 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,799 led by perky demagogues whose guiding principle is not fairness 502 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,200 or consistency but raw ideology. Okay, And so the real 503 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:35,880 threat to Schumer is coming from his left right. He's 504 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,519 going to get the center left, the moderates you know 505 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,440 in the Democrat Party. He's going to get them in 506 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,440 the general election, no problem. The problem for him is 507 00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:47,000 does he get to the general election. He can't be 508 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:50,079 sure he's ever going to get a shot at the 509 00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:55,599 general to get those moderate, you know, lean left Democrats. 510 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,240 If he can't dispatch of AOC, his fate is in 511 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,599 the hands of people who think AOC is the moral 512 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,640 leader of the party. Schumer, you may recall, has said 513 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,759 that shutting down the government is much worse than passing 514 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:16,359 a continuing resolution. He did that couple what was it 515 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,240 a year or so ago, and remember the blowback he got. 516 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:24,680 That's when the Democrat base turned on Schumer when he 517 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:32,920 caved to Trump. So what changed AOC. He's afraid of AOC. 518 00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,240 So the Democrats are basically holding the country hostage, largely 519 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:41,000 because Schumer is scared of a socialist bartender who is 520 00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:45,920 drunk on her own power. As David Strom at hot 521 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160 air Dot com and he's right, by the way, he 522 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:55,119 is correct regarding the oh this was from Eric Erickson. 523 00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,119 Democrats have declared Trump to be Hitler. But if he 524 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,880 makes permanent the temporary healthcare subsidies from COVID that cover 525 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,519 illegal aliens and restores funding for progressive television and radio stations, 526 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,160 he can go back to Hitler, ring to his heart's content. 527 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:17,039 That's like, yeah, that's the position now of the Democrat 528 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:27,160 Party is a curiosity of incompetence, says Ericson right. This 529 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:33,279 is about codifying stuff that was rolled back, you know, 530 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:35,480 bringing back and codifying things that were rolled back in 531 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:39,359 the One Big Beautiful Bill, which was the medicaid for 532 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,000 illegal aliens. That's part of this package. And Democrats have 533 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,240 said that ro Kana has admitted it. Maxine Waters has 534 00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:52,640 admitted it. And the first step, Rob Henderson points out 535 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240 the believers at the Manhattan Institute remember the steps right, 536 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,799 number one, first step and by the way, this applies 537 00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:04,559 to a great many things. I noted this pattern back 538 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:06,759 when we were going over the voter ID law in 539 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:11,679 North Carolina Lo those many years ago. Right. Step one 540 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,599 is it's not really happening. You guys are lying it's 541 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,280 not happening at all. Step two is okay, yes, it's happening. 542 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,480 This is not a big deal. There's like no fraud. 543 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,000 It is so small it's not even worth pursuing. Then 544 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,480 step three is Okay, it's happening, and it's actually it's 545 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,920 a good thing. It's a good thing that it's happening. 546 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,719 And then step four is the people who are freaking 547 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,119 out that it is happening. You guys are actually the problem. 548 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:50,519 Those are the steps. It's not happening. Okay, it's happening, 549 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:52,599 but it's not a big deal. Actually it is happening, 550 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,039 and it's a good thing it's happening. And finally, you 551 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,320 guys who are objecting to it's happening, you're the problem. 552 00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,400 That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 553 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480 for listening. 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