WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:05.759 It's night side with Dan. I'm telling you Boston. 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:07.280 All right. 3 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.439 I'm going to continue to give you an opportunity to 4 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:15.560 talk about what went on here in Boston on April 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:20.000 twenty eighth, the death of the five year old boy 6 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:25.760 who was killed apparently by the bus that he had 7 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:30.359 just alighted from coming home from He's in the fifth grade. 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:34.240 He's five years old, I assume at kindergarten. But I 9 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:39.119 also want to not go without noting these series of 10 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:44.600 protests out in Worcester. So we have ICE agents who 11 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:50.079 tried to arrest a woman in Worcester last Thursday, and 12 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:56.439 her daughter apparently tried to interfere with that arrest and 13 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:01.079 a crowd assembled and there was a bit of a 14 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:06.480 face off between However, many people were there. The woman 15 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.760 who was arrested was a woman named Roseanne Ferrara to Olivier, 16 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.959 I know nothing about her, know nothing about her sixteen 17 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:16.920 year old daughter. I believe there was another woman who 18 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:21.799 was arrested as well. It was quite a scene from 19 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:28.920 looking at the videotape, and it's interesting somehow the Globe 20 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.239 found someone who claimed to be and may have been 21 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:39.120 a retired Worcester police officer this individual condemned the police 22 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:46.040 Chief Paul Saucier. Saucier made this statement regardless of the 23 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:50.760 charged political climate. Physical violence is never an acceptable response 24 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:56.120 to policy disagreements. Here here, I agree with Police Chief Saucier. 25 00:01:56.159 --> 00:02:00.840 I don't know Police Chief Saucier, but he's correct. Physical 26 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:06.239 violence is never an acceptable response to policy disagreements. So 27 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:10.000 this retired police officer not even going to mention his name, 28 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.439 The chief is curing himself. People are going to react. 29 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:21.360 You know, easy for you to say, retired Worcester police officer. 30 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.919 I don't know if you were there, but what would 31 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:28.439 you have the police do, like stand down and say, oh, 32 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:34.240 we're just going home, we're done for the day. Were 33 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:38.319 really upset that we saw some violence and we're just 34 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.319 ready to leave now, and we're going to go and 35 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.759 find a safe space and we're going to have a 36 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.360 little police huddle. Give me a break, Give me a break. 37 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.479 The city council apparently held a meeting last night and 38 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.360 they closed City Hall. They were so concerned about this, 39 00:02:55.919 --> 00:03:00.159 and they this scheduled six thirty city council meeting was 40 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.960 held on zoom only. You know something, you know, bring 41 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:08.400 in the National Guard if you have to okay, people 42 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.400 should have a right to attend a public meeting. Some 43 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:15.319 candidate for school committee out there who was also arrested. 44 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.240 I mean she may be the other person who was 45 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:19.719 getting arrested. She wants to be on the school committee. 46 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.800 Good for her. It is such a cowardly move to 47 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.680 close the doors of a building. We pay for it 48 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.439 to prevent us from being heard and being seen. That's 49 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:32.039 a individual who wants to get elected to the school committee. 50 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:38.680 Well keep that in mind, folks. Despite those statements, I 51 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:42.319 want to command the US Attorney here in Boston, Leah Foley. 52 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:47.159 She is the newly elected, newly appointed US Attorney. Her 53 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.680 office would release this statement this afternoon at one. 54 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:53.159 Quote. 55 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.319 The interference with ICE operations around Massachusetts has been disturbing, 56 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.759 to say the least. This conduct post is signalant public 57 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.960 and officer safety risks. It is conduct that should be 58 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:07.960 vilified rather than glorified. I will not stand by idly 59 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:13.680 if any public official, public safety officer, organization, or private 60 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.480 citizen acts in a manner that criminally obstructs or impedes 61 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:21.480 ICE operations. The United States Attorney's Office, along with our 62 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:25.040 federal partners, will investigate any violations of federal law and 63 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:31.480 pursue charges that are warranted by such activity. Lea B. Foley, 64 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:36.560 US Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, Congratulations, you have 65 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:41.279 more backbone than this retired cop out in Worcester. Who's 66 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:44.519 second guessing the police chief out there? What is the 67 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:49.160 police chief supposed to do? So if there was the 68 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.240 police going in to make an arrest of bank robbers 69 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:58.959 or you know, any other criminals, if you get enough 70 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.160 people there say no, you're not going to arrest this guy, 71 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.839 police supposed to walk away. The left in America has 72 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:13.120 lost their collective mind, Okay. And if they think that 73 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:17.199 taking positions like this is going to help their cause, 74 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:23.040 they are disillusional. It's as simple as that. And so 75 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:28.639 I'm going to open up the phone lines. The first 76 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.480 two calls, Angelo and Bruce, you were calling for the 77 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:37.199 story about the unnecessary and tragic death of the five 78 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:41.839 year old in Boston on Monday, April twenty eighth. I 79 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.639 want to hear from people about this Worcester riot on Thursday. 80 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.920 Either you want police in your community or you don't, okay. 81 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:53.959 And you've tried that, folks, You've tried to be a 82 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.560 sanctuary city. You've tried to be a welcoming city and 83 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.399 all of that. But guess what most people want the 84 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.959 presence of police in their community. Uh, and most people 85 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.600 support the police in their communities despite the fact that 86 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.800 you had, however, many a couple of dozen, no more. 87 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.240 I don't know how many people were involved and were 88 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:16.000 battling ice agents, but you bet the police have to 89 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.519 come in and support the ice agents. It's as simple 90 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.199 as that. Let me go to phone calls, Angelo and Angela. 91 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.000 You have held through the news. You can talk about 92 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:25.279 either of both of these topics. 93 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:28.240 Go redhead, Angelo, ain't going be a tak of a 94 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.000 dad of my call, And I hope you can hand me. 95 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:37.319 The poor kid didn't get to live his whole life. Now, 96 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.319 that guy should have a CDL license. And when that's 97 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.480 something like that happens and you have a CDL license, 98 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.560 they make you go for a medical examination right away 99 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.079 because I have a CDL license and I know what 100 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.240 it's like and when I have to go through something 101 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.639 like that, and that guy should be checked and find 102 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.000 out what was wrong with him and what he did wrong. 103 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.879 That poor Kittle did not even live his life, to 104 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.800 his whole life because of what happened there. 105 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.279 I agree with him. I agree with him. As a 106 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.759 matter of fact, they should have done drug testing on him, 107 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:09.839 you know, basically based upon the facts that we have 108 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.639 been given, the fact that he UH crashed into a 109 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.639 couple of cars a few minutes earlier, drove away from 110 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.680 that accident scene, the cars were parked, they they weren't 111 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.240 being driven by other people. He was driving a bus, 112 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:29.199 and then he obviously, you know, was not in his 113 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.680 right state of mind to uh to not realize a 114 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:34.920 five year old child had just gotten off the bus. 115 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.199 And I don't know if the five year old child 116 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:39.040 walked in front of the bus. I don't know if 117 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.360 the five year old child was attempting to cross the street. 118 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.079 Five year old kids do, you know, unpredictable things, which 119 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.040 is why bus drivers have to be careful with this 120 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.959 precious cargo, simple as that. So he should be he 121 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.680 should he should be dealt with based upon the facts. 122 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.920 If he had some sort of medical inter medical incident 123 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.160 that caused him to lose his judgment or something, Okay, 124 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.120 that's fine, that's a potential defense he has. But at 125 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:12.959 the same time, it's been seventeen days. We deserve information 126 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.639 about with this investigation is and why charges have not 127 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.160 been brought up until this point. And we don't need 128 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:23.240 a district attorney at a police commissioner who basically play 129 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:26.160 hide and seek with the media. And we also need 130 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.959 a mayor who's going to instruct the police commissioner. We 131 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.559 want to know what's going on. The mayor apparently was 132 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.639 somewhere yesterday, had a chance, and she simply referred to 133 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:41.039 the police commissioner who's never available. It's a game. 134 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:47.480 And if it was me, Dan, and I drove a bus, 135 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.759 and if every kid came off a bus before I 136 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:51.440 took off, I get out of the bus and I 137 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.200 walk around the bus to make sure everybody's awaiting the 138 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.000 bus before I even take off. I see some bus 139 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.840 drivers they drop off the kid and they don't They 140 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:02.799 have so many mirrors that can look around the bus 141 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.120 and they probably don't even pay attention and they just 142 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.000 take off. How do you know where that kid is 143 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.200 around the bus? You know, if he's walking on the 144 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.120 front of the buck. You know if he's walking on 145 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.960 the back of the buck. Yeah, it's crazy. 146 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:17.919 And again, as I've said throughout the evening, if this 147 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.360 had happened in a place like Wellesley or Weston or 148 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.279 whealand they would have answers within seventeen days. I know that. 149 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.159 Oh yeah, oh yeah, I appreciate your call. 150 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.080 I got to keep rolling here. Okay, baddie, talk to 151 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.360 you soon. Thank you much for calling. 152 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:36.200 Okay. And another thing, they need that policeman here because 153 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.240 without policeman, what are we going to do. 154 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:42.120 Yeah, well, it'll be open season on everybody without police there. 155 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:47.159 And again, if this woman was being taken into custody police, 156 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.120 you know, I criticized Ice when they took the woman, uh, 157 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.399 the tough student into custody, the way in which they 158 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.279 did it, uh. And police need to be and Ice 159 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:03.080 needs to be just greet uh. But at the same time, 160 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:08.039 the response that people should have is get a lawyer, 161 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.919 go to court and find out if the arrest is 162 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.919 properly made. That's the system of justice we have in 163 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:17.240 this country, and that's the system of justice people need 164 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.960 to comply with. Simple as that. 165 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:24.320 Thank you, thank you, You're welcome. 166 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.240 You to six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, 167 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:31.080 six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty be back 168 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.240 with Bruce and Newton. I got wide open lines here. 169 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.039 Don't let either or both of these topics drop away, 170 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.480 because I'm going to talk about him till midnight. It's 171 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.960 as simple as that. Shame on that that that mob 172 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.320 in Worcester, and shame on the politicians down in Newark, 173 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:51.360 New Jersey, some of them elected members of Congress, as 174 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:54.919 I understand it, including the mayor of Newark. What sort 175 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:56.240 of a country we're going to live in? Are we 176 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:56.879 going to live in? 177 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:57.279 Uh? 178 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:00.279 You know this, This is not what America is to 179 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.360 be about. And if you don't like it the way 180 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.559 it functions in America, we have a criminal justice system, 181 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.440 we have a court system. We have plenty of are 182 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.879 they mistakes made? Yes, but most mistakes are caught, Okay? 183 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:14.519 Uh? 184 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.480 And if you don't like it, here go somewhere else. 185 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:20.120 It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that 186 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.120 we live in a in a country of laws, and 187 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:27.360 it is not up to people to take violence in 188 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:31.759 their hands. Robert F. Kennedy Bobby Kennedy, former Senator Kennedy, 189 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.080 the late great Senator Kennedy said violence but gets got violence. 190 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.840 So if you're going to justify violence against authority, then 191 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.240 be prepared when they respond in kind and when they 192 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.200 arrest you It's as simple as that. Six seven two 193 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:51.039 five thirty six seven nine thirty. Feel free, love to 194 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:53.039 hear from as many of you as possible, whether you're 195 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.360 in the greater Boston area or now. At this point 196 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:59.000 of course, our signal not only with terrestrial radio, but 197 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.759 with the iHeart app is all over the country. Join 198 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.840 this conversation. Do you agree with what happened in Newick, 199 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.919 New Jersey? Because what happened in Newark, New Jersey, something 200 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:12.879 very similar, not identical, but very similar, happened in Worcestern, Massachusetts. 201 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:14.720 And there's a lot of people who feel at this 202 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:19.000 point that they can act out against police and against 203 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:25.360 ice without any sort of recrimination. Well here in Massachusetts, 204 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:29.320 the US Attorney Leah Foley makes it very clear there 205 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:33.639 will be response, and I say hats off to Leah Foley. 206 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.159 Back on Nightside, joined the conversation right after. 207 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:42.720 This Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio. 208 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.080 It's back to the phones. Let's go to Bruce and Newton. Bruce, 209 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.159 you next to nights. I appreciate your patients. 210 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:53.639 Go ahead, Bruce, Hello, Dan. Hello, Two things, Dan, Two things. 211 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.639 I noticed A lot of drivers, every driver on the road, 212 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:03.440 cars there's a lot of very elderly drivers that drive 213 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.720 that have problems with their reflexes. Bus drivers. I noticed 214 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:14.440 there's a lot of drivers that are after retiring age. 215 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:20.720 I mean, I believe after seventy people's reflexes aren't as 216 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:25.919 accurate and quick. I think there should be some kind 217 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:32.360 of age limit because there's children in their hands. Another thing, 218 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:33.360 So when. 219 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.039 You say, first of all, they do test older drivers 220 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:42.759 with eye exams, that's one test that is done. Is 221 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.200 you is your I mean, I don't think you can 222 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.519 turn around and say, Okay, everybody is over seventy and 223 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.200 seventy five loses their license. I don't think you're saying that. 224 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.120 What sort of tests were you talking about. 225 00:13:55.759 --> 00:14:02.200 Well, just a reflex basically, I don't think everybody should 226 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.600 lose their license, but I think after a certain age, 227 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.799 I mean, reflexes are important. 228 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.200 No, I agree with you. I agree with you, and 229 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:12.600 I think that that when you come up for your 230 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:17.279 license renewal, I think if there are people who are 231 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:22.320 getting into more accidents over the course of their life, 232 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.080 I think that's that's something to be concerned about. But 233 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.080 I think the way you're gonna you're going to test people, 234 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:33.480 I don't think you can turn around and say, Okay, 235 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.440 we're gonna test everybody. You got to do it maybe 236 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:39.519 when they're seventy five, seventy, seventy five, eighty. I think 237 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.840 that's legitimate. I think that's reasonable. You should probably be 238 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:48.879 more more careful with people who are bus drivers because 239 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:53.559 they have in their control a vehicle that has upwards 240 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.679 of thirty thirty five, maybe forty kids on it. 241 00:14:55.720 --> 00:15:00.600 So yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the thing is also they 242 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:05.720 don't they don't give them driver driving tests. They just 243 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.759 have a basic test at the building. They don't give them. 244 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.960 Driving They have a written test. Is that what happens? 245 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.039 Written? And I yeah, but not driving? 246 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.639 Okay, thank you for bringing that to my attention. I 247 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:22.639 do not have a CD license, never apply for CD 248 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.919 a license. I did not know that. I assume that. Look, 249 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.960 I watched truck drivers who handled these uh you know, 250 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:36.080 these huge eighteen wheel rigs and they are able to 251 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.879 maneuver them. Where was I yesterday that I watched this 252 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:44.720 with amazement, this this truck negotiate down a side street 253 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:48.200 and it was like WHOA. I mean, on my best day, 254 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:49.759 I wouldn't have been able to do that. But I 255 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.679 guess that anything else if you get good at something, 256 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.360 you know, I couldn't hit a major league fastball either 257 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.279 at my age. But there's a lot of people who can, 258 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.399 a lot of people who who can, who can drive 259 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:02.919 trucks appropriately. 260 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:05.399 Come back very true, very true, very true. 261 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.600 Come back to the bus rider here, come back to 262 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:13.879 this bus driver here. Uh this, this has gone on 263 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.200 way too long as far as I'm concerned, and that's 264 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:20.120 why I'm pretty upset about this, and and I wish 265 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:21.480 other people felt the same way. 266 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:31.120 Okay, one other last thing, yep about this authorities not 267 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:38.919 coming upfront about this situation. I'm guessing strongly that there's 268 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:44.120 a very good possibility that this driver might be related 269 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:49.399 to somebody higher up, a politician that might be trying 270 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.440 to delay this uh public. 271 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.960 Yeah. First, first of all, Bruce, I disagree with you 272 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.759 on that, and I'll tell you why. If this was 273 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.960 if this was some guy who was the brother in 274 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.240 law of some politician and he ran a stop sign 275 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.960 or or he ran into a stop sign, Okay, I 276 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:14.119 could buy that, But when something as serious as this 277 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.720 that any politician, and I just don't believe that any 278 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.680 politician would even think that way to be really honest 279 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:24.440 with you. This is just this is the death of 280 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.759 a child. This is the death of a five year 281 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:27.759 old child. 282 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:33.440 Yes, yes, yes, very serious. You know a lot of 283 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.200 politicians well you know. 284 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:39.119 I think sadly unfortunately we have found that to be true. 285 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:44.119 But yes, I I just I on something like this 286 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.519 five year old kid o, kiddo gets off a school bus. 287 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:54.160 Uh and he's dead. That in a matter of seconds. Unacceptable, unacceptable. Hey, Bruce, 288 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:56.079 I appreciate your call calling the show. 289 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.440 Thank you much, my friend, Thank you, Dan. 290 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:01.119 I have a great night. Right, let's keep rolling here. 291 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.759 Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, 292 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.559 nine three one ten thirty. I'd like to if you 293 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.160 want to comment on the Boston case, because we've talked 294 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.880 about it now for two hours. That's fine, but I 295 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:18.440 really would like to hear from people in response to 296 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:23.440 the statement issue today by US Attorney Lea Foley. My 297 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.640 hat's off to her. She made it pretty clear that 298 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.880 and she's responding to what went on in Worcester last Thursday, 299 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.400 where this crowd of outlaws decided they were going to 300 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.240 prevent ice officers from taking someone into custody who they 301 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:43.000 wanted to take into custody. Now, I'm assuming that the 302 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:48.640 ICE officers had the appropriate authority to do what they 303 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:53.559 tried to do if they didn't take it to court. 304 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.240 There are plenty of judges out there, in federal courts 305 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.200 and in state courts around this country who were more 306 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:01.759 than happy to set and guess the procedures that are 307 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:06.200 being used by ICE. But under no circumstances should people 308 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.559 interfere with ICE officers, nor should they interfere with police officers. 309 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.039 And the US Attorney Leo Foley read this statement, and 310 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.400 I want to say hats off to Leo Foley, and 311 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:19.000 I hope some of you will agree with me, because 312 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:26.640 this is an appointed United States Attorney who basically has 313 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.839 made it pretty clear that here in Massachusetts, the interference 314 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.680 with ICE operations around Massachusetts has been disturbing to say 315 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:40.319 the least. This conduct poses significant public and officers safety risks. 316 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:43.839 It is conduct that should be vilified rather than glorified. 317 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:47.200 I will not stand idly by if any public official, 318 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:51.240 public safety officer, organization, or private citizen acts in a 319 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:56.119 manner that criminally obstructs or impedes ICE operations. The United 320 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.759 States Attorney's Office, along with our federal partners will investigate 321 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.000 any violations of federal law and pursue charges that are 322 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:07.559 warranted by such activity. She could not have said it 323 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.519 more clearly, could not have written it more forcefully. People 324 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.640 should be on notice at this point, I say, hats 325 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.359 off to the United States Attorney Leah B. Foley of 326 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:24.119 the District of Massachusetts. I wonder what former US Attorney 327 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:27.680 Rachel Rollins, if she would have issued a statement like that. 328 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:31.200 I'm not convinced she would have. But this is a 329 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:35.839 different type of US attorney. This is a very active 330 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.880 US Attorney's office right now. And let me tell you, 331 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:46.279 we have seen millions of people committed this country illegally 332 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:51.240 in the last few years, and many of them present 333 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:56.559 significant danger. See I'm not talking about people you know 334 00:20:56.599 --> 00:21:00.559 who are here, but people who are here illegally. Presents 335 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:07.440 significant danger. And why ICE went after this particular woman 336 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.440 in Worcester, I want to know, just as I want 337 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.920 to know why they went after the woman at Meantford, 338 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:20.799 the Tough's University woman. But nobody, I say, nobody has 339 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.759 a right to interfere with an ICE officer. Nobody has 340 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.119 a right to interfere with a police officer. You want 341 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:32.440 to make no, you want to you want to call lawyers. 342 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:35.039 That's what lawyers are there for, that's what courts are 343 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:39.920 there for. If it reduces to violence in this country, 344 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:44.000 then no one will be safe, not the illegals, not 345 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.039 the legals, and not the citizens. And if you want 346 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:50.079 a country that is in chaos, continue to do what 347 00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:53.319 those people did in New Jersey the other day, and 348 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.799 continue to do what the people in Worcester did the 349 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:01.079 other night. They're disgraceful. In my opinion, we are a 350 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:06.599 nation of laws, not of men. Follow the law. Law 351 00:22:06.680 --> 00:22:09.319 enforcement has to follow the law. That's why we have judges. 352 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:14.480 I am. I'm sick and tired of the violence that 353 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:19.319 people are so so quickly quick to participate in. We've 354 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:21.839 seen a lot in this country over the years. It 355 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.839 doesn't help anything at all. We'll be back on Nightside. 356 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:32.000 I got some open lines, which to me is disgraceful. 357 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.599 Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine, 358 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.559 three one ten thirty You comment on either of these 359 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:40.839 circumstances back on nightside. 360 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:46.240 Right after this, You're on the Night Side with Dan 361 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:49.880 Ray on w BZ Boston's news radio. 362 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:53.400 Skid Rowland surely is in Lauren, surely welcome to Nightside. 363 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.039 How are you gooding yourself? 364 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:56.279 Sir? 365 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.039 I'm doing just great. What is your take on either 366 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:00.519 or both of these? Top? 367 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:03.559 Okay, so the first thing is. 368 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.319 Yeah, but you have to turn your phone down. I'm 369 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.279 sure that Rob told you to turn your phone down. 370 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:12.559 Why don't you do this, Rob, Let's put Shirley on 371 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.759 hold and explain to her why it's important for her 372 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.680 to turn her phone down, and we'll get back to 373 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:20.519 her in a moment, simple as that. Let me go 374 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:22.759 next to Phil in Boston. Phill you next on Nightside. 375 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:24.599 I know Phil has his phone turned down. 376 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.839 Go ahead, Phil, Oh yeah, damn Sorry. At this point 377 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:30.759 I was looking fuse for all these things. But on 378 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:34.000 that the CDL thing, I'm not an expert enough. You 379 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.000 have to have an endorsement to a pass in your truck. 380 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.880 You have to have an endorsement that drive has his material. 381 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.440 So that means to me that you have to go 382 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.240 through a test and take the training and that kind 383 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.119 of a thing. And getting back to the worst thing, 384 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:50.599 I mean, this is the way it's going on. I mean, 385 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:55.440 the woman in city in Boston, the city council, she 386 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.799 was you know, saying no, But they attract attention, they 387 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.319 get their make them owns that way. The one was 388 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.440 the she's getting points for being the way she is 389 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.200 because the crowd's gonna back her up, and the poor 390 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.319 corps and they're coming along. I mean, God forbid someone 391 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:13.039 gets shot then then love me doing time and these 392 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:16.640 people we drive around with him as unbelievable man. But 393 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.440 I heard about that. In fact, that day I saw 394 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:23.799 that the school a school bus being told from high Park, 395 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.880 behind the police station, out of the fire station, going 396 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.759 down somewhere. But I mean, that's and i'd forgotten all. 397 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.759 I didn't know what the I didn't know what had happened. 398 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:34.920 I knew it was kind of an an accident, but 399 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:39.119 I'm surprised it doesn't have more often than Luckily it 400 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:41.960 was light out, because if he is back or route 401 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.480