Speaker 1: It's night side with Dan. I'm telling you Boston.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to give you an opportunity to
Speaker 3: talk about what went on here in Boston on April
Speaker 3: twenty eighth, the death of the five year old boy
Speaker 3: who was killed apparently by the bus that he had
Speaker 3: just alighted from coming home from He's in the fifth grade.
Speaker 3: He's five years old, I assume at kindergarten. But I
Speaker 3: also want to not go without noting these series of
Speaker 3: protests out in Worcester. So we have ICE agents who
Speaker 3: tried to arrest a woman in Worcester last Thursday, and
Speaker 3: her daughter apparently tried to interfere with that arrest and
Speaker 3: a crowd assembled and there was a bit of a
Speaker 3: face off between However, many people were there. The woman
Speaker 3: who was arrested was a woman named Roseanne Ferrara to Olivier,
Speaker 3: I know nothing about her, know nothing about her sixteen
Speaker 3: year old daughter. I believe there was another woman who
Speaker 3: was arrested as well. It was quite a scene from
Speaker 3: looking at the videotape, and it's interesting somehow the Globe
Speaker 3: found someone who claimed to be and may have been
Speaker 3: a retired Worcester police officer this individual condemned the police
Speaker 3: Chief Paul Saucier. Saucier made this statement regardless of the
Speaker 3: charged political climate. Physical violence is never an acceptable response
Speaker 3: to policy disagreements. Here here, I agree with Police Chief Saucier.
Speaker 3: I don't know Police Chief Saucier, but he's correct. Physical
Speaker 3: violence is never an acceptable response to policy disagreements. So
Speaker 3: this retired police officer not even going to mention his name,
Speaker 3: The chief is curing himself. People are going to react.
Speaker 3: You know, easy for you to say, retired Worcester police officer.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you were there, but what would
Speaker 3: you have the police do, like stand down and say, oh,
Speaker 3: we're just going home, we're done for the day. Were
Speaker 3: really upset that we saw some violence and we're just
Speaker 3: ready to leave now, and we're going to go and
Speaker 3: find a safe space and we're going to have a
Speaker 3: little police huddle. Give me a break, Give me a break.
Speaker 3: The city council apparently held a meeting last night and
Speaker 3: they closed City Hall. They were so concerned about this,
Speaker 3: and they this scheduled six thirty city council meeting was
Speaker 3: held on zoom only. You know something, you know, bring
Speaker 3: in the National Guard if you have to okay, people
Speaker 3: should have a right to attend a public meeting. Some
Speaker 3: candidate for school committee out there who was also arrested.
Speaker 3: I mean she may be the other person who was
Speaker 3: getting arrested. She wants to be on the school committee.
Speaker 3: Good for her. It is such a cowardly move to
Speaker 3: close the doors of a building. We pay for it
Speaker 3: to prevent us from being heard and being seen. That's
Speaker 3: a individual who wants to get elected to the school committee.
Speaker 3: Well keep that in mind, folks. Despite those statements, I
Speaker 3: want to command the US Attorney here in Boston, Leah Foley.
Speaker 3: She is the newly elected, newly appointed US Attorney. Her
Speaker 3: office would release this statement this afternoon at one.
Speaker 4: Quote.
Speaker 3: The interference with ICE operations around Massachusetts has been disturbing,
Speaker 3: to say the least. This conduct post is signalant public
Speaker 3: and officer safety risks. It is conduct that should be
Speaker 3: vilified rather than glorified. I will not stand by idly
Speaker 3: if any public official, public safety officer, organization, or private
Speaker 3: citizen acts in a manner that criminally obstructs or impedes
Speaker 3: ICE operations. The United States Attorney's Office, along with our
Speaker 3: federal partners, will investigate any violations of federal law and
Speaker 3: pursue charges that are warranted by such activity. Lea B. Foley,
Speaker 3: US Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, Congratulations, you have
Speaker 3: more backbone than this retired cop out in Worcester. Who's
Speaker 3: second guessing the police chief out there? What is the
Speaker 3: police chief supposed to do? So if there was the
Speaker 3: police going in to make an arrest of bank robbers
Speaker 3: or you know, any other criminals, if you get enough
Speaker 3: people there say no, you're not going to arrest this guy,
Speaker 3: police supposed to walk away. The left in America has
Speaker 3: lost their collective mind, Okay. And if they think that
Speaker 3: taking positions like this is going to help their cause,
Speaker 3: they are disillusional. It's as simple as that. And so
Speaker 3: I'm going to open up the phone lines. The first
Speaker 3: two calls, Angelo and Bruce, you were calling for the
Speaker 3: story about the unnecessary and tragic death of the five
Speaker 3: year old in Boston on Monday, April twenty eighth. I
Speaker 3: want to hear from people about this Worcester riot on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Either you want police in your community or you don't, okay.
Speaker 3: And you've tried that, folks, You've tried to be a
Speaker 3: sanctuary city. You've tried to be a welcoming city and
Speaker 3: all of that. But guess what most people want the
Speaker 3: presence of police in their community. Uh, and most people
Speaker 3: support the police in their communities despite the fact that
Speaker 3: you had, however, many a couple of dozen, no more.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many people were involved and were
Speaker 3: battling ice agents, but you bet the police have to
Speaker 3: come in and support the ice agents. It's as simple
Speaker 3: as that. Let me go to phone calls, Angelo and Angela.
Speaker 3: You have held through the news. You can talk about
Speaker 3: either of both of these topics.
Speaker 4: Go redhead, Angelo, ain't going be a tak of a
Speaker 4: dad of my call, And I hope you can hand me.
Speaker 5: The poor kid didn't get to live his whole life. Now,
Speaker 5: that guy should have a CDL license. And when that's
Speaker 5: something like that happens and you have a CDL license,
Speaker 5: they make you go for a medical examination right away
Speaker 5: because I have a CDL license and I know what
Speaker 5: it's like and when I have to go through something
Speaker 5: like that, and that guy should be checked and find
Speaker 5: out what was wrong with him and what he did wrong.
Speaker 5: That poor Kittle did not even live his life, to
Speaker 5: his whole life because of what happened there.
Speaker 3: I agree with him. I agree with him. As a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, they should have done drug testing on him,
Speaker 3: you know, basically based upon the facts that we have
Speaker 3: been given, the fact that he UH crashed into a
Speaker 3: couple of cars a few minutes earlier, drove away from
Speaker 3: that accident scene, the cars were parked, they they weren't
Speaker 3: being driven by other people. He was driving a bus,
Speaker 3: and then he obviously, you know, was not in his
Speaker 3: right state of mind to uh to not realize a
Speaker 3: five year old child had just gotten off the bus.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if the five year old child
Speaker 3: walked in front of the bus. I don't know if
Speaker 3: the five year old child was attempting to cross the street.
Speaker 3: Five year old kids do, you know, unpredictable things, which
Speaker 3: is why bus drivers have to be careful with this
Speaker 3: precious cargo, simple as that. So he should be he
Speaker 3: should he should be dealt with based upon the facts.
Speaker 3: If he had some sort of medical inter medical incident
Speaker 3: that caused him to lose his judgment or something, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's fine, that's a potential defense he has. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, it's been seventeen days. We deserve information
Speaker 3: about with this investigation is and why charges have not
Speaker 3: been brought up until this point. And we don't need
Speaker 3: a district attorney at a police commissioner who basically play
Speaker 3: hide and seek with the media. And we also need
Speaker 3: a mayor who's going to instruct the police commissioner. We
Speaker 3: want to know what's going on. The mayor apparently was
Speaker 3: somewhere yesterday, had a chance, and she simply referred to
Speaker 3: the police commissioner who's never available. It's a game.
Speaker 5: And if it was me, Dan, and I drove a bus,
Speaker 5: and if every kid came off a bus before I
Speaker 5: took off, I get out of the bus and I
Speaker 5: walk around the bus to make sure everybody's awaiting the
Speaker 5: bus before I even take off. I see some bus
Speaker 5: drivers they drop off the kid and they don't They
Speaker 5: have so many mirrors that can look around the bus
Speaker 5: and they probably don't even pay attention and they just
Speaker 5: take off. How do you know where that kid is
Speaker 5: around the bus? You know, if he's walking on the
Speaker 5: front of the buck. You know if he's walking on
Speaker 5: the back of the buck. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: And again, as I've said throughout the evening, if this
Speaker 3: had happened in a place like Wellesley or Weston or
Speaker 3: whealand they would have answers within seventeen days. I know that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I appreciate your call.
Speaker 3: I got to keep rolling here. Okay, baddie, talk to
Speaker 3: you soon. Thank you much for calling.
Speaker 5: Okay. And another thing, they need that policeman here because
Speaker 5: without policeman, what are we going to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it'll be open season on everybody without police there.
Speaker 3: And again, if this woman was being taken into custody police,
Speaker 3: you know, I criticized Ice when they took the woman, uh,
Speaker 3: the tough student into custody, the way in which they
Speaker 3: did it, uh. And police need to be and Ice
Speaker 3: needs to be just greet uh. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: the response that people should have is get a lawyer,
Speaker 3: go to court and find out if the arrest is
Speaker 3: properly made. That's the system of justice we have in
Speaker 3: this country, and that's the system of justice people need
Speaker 3: to comply with. Simple as that.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 3: You to six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 3: six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty be back
Speaker 3: with Bruce and Newton. I got wide open lines here.
Speaker 3: Don't let either or both of these topics drop away,
Speaker 3: because I'm going to talk about him till midnight. It's
Speaker 3: as simple as that. Shame on that that that mob
Speaker 3: in Worcester, and shame on the politicians down in Newark,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, some of them elected members of Congress, as
Speaker 3: I understand it, including the mayor of Newark. What sort
Speaker 3: of a country we're going to live in? Are we
Speaker 3: going to live in?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know this, This is not what America is to
Speaker 3: be about. And if you don't like it the way
Speaker 3: it functions in America, we have a criminal justice system,
Speaker 3: we have a court system. We have plenty of are
Speaker 3: they mistakes made? Yes, but most mistakes are caught, Okay?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: And if you don't like it, here go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that
Speaker 3: we live in a in a country of laws, and
Speaker 3: it is not up to people to take violence in
Speaker 3: their hands. Robert F. Kennedy Bobby Kennedy, former Senator Kennedy,
Speaker 3: the late great Senator Kennedy said violence but gets got violence.
Speaker 3: So if you're going to justify violence against authority, then
Speaker 3: be prepared when they respond in kind and when they
Speaker 3: arrest you It's as simple as that. Six seven two
Speaker 3: five thirty six seven nine thirty. Feel free, love to
Speaker 3: hear from as many of you as possible, whether you're
Speaker 3: in the greater Boston area or now. At this point
Speaker 3: of course, our signal not only with terrestrial radio, but
Speaker 3: with the iHeart app is all over the country. Join
Speaker 3: this conversation. Do you agree with what happened in Newick,
Speaker 3: New Jersey? Because what happened in Newark, New Jersey, something
Speaker 3: very similar, not identical, but very similar, happened in Worcestern, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people who feel at this
Speaker 3: point that they can act out against police and against
Speaker 3: ice without any sort of recrimination. Well here in Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: the US Attorney Leah Foley makes it very clear there
Speaker 3: will be response, and I say hats off to Leah Foley.
Speaker 3: Back on Nightside, joined the conversation right after.
Speaker 1: This Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: It's back to the phones. Let's go to Bruce and Newton. Bruce,
Speaker 3: you next to nights. I appreciate your patients.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Bruce, Hello, Dan. Hello, Two things, Dan, Two things.
Speaker 4: I noticed A lot of drivers, every driver on the road,
Speaker 4: cars there's a lot of very elderly drivers that drive
Speaker 4: that have problems with their reflexes. Bus drivers. I noticed
Speaker 4: there's a lot of drivers that are after retiring age.
Speaker 4: I mean, I believe after seventy people's reflexes aren't as
Speaker 4: accurate and quick. I think there should be some kind
Speaker 4: of age limit because there's children in their hands. Another thing,
Speaker 4: So when.
Speaker 3: You say, first of all, they do test older drivers
Speaker 3: with eye exams, that's one test that is done. Is
Speaker 3: you is your I mean, I don't think you can
Speaker 3: turn around and say, Okay, everybody is over seventy and
Speaker 3: seventy five loses their license. I don't think you're saying that.
Speaker 3: What sort of tests were you talking about.
Speaker 4: Well, just a reflex basically, I don't think everybody should
Speaker 4: lose their license, but I think after a certain age,
Speaker 4: I mean, reflexes are important.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I agree with you, and
Speaker 3: I think that that when you come up for your
Speaker 3: license renewal, I think if there are people who are
Speaker 3: getting into more accidents over the course of their life,
Speaker 3: I think that's that's something to be concerned about. But
Speaker 3: I think the way you're gonna you're going to test people,
Speaker 3: I don't think you can turn around and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna test everybody. You got to do it maybe
Speaker 3: when they're seventy five, seventy, seventy five, eighty. I think
Speaker 3: that's legitimate. I think that's reasonable. You should probably be
Speaker 3: more more careful with people who are bus drivers because
Speaker 3: they have in their control a vehicle that has upwards
Speaker 3: of thirty thirty five, maybe forty kids on it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the thing is also they
Speaker 4: don't they don't give them driver driving tests. They just
Speaker 4: have a basic test at the building. They don't give them.
Speaker 3: Driving They have a written test. Is that what happens?
Speaker 4: Written? And I yeah, but not driving?
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for bringing that to my attention. I
Speaker 3: do not have a CD license, never apply for CD
Speaker 3: a license. I did not know that. I assume that. Look,
Speaker 3: I watched truck drivers who handled these uh you know,
Speaker 3: these huge eighteen wheel rigs and they are able to
Speaker 3: maneuver them. Where was I yesterday that I watched this
Speaker 3: with amazement, this this truck negotiate down a side street
Speaker 3: and it was like WHOA. I mean, on my best day,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been able to do that. But I
Speaker 3: guess that anything else if you get good at something,
Speaker 3: you know, I couldn't hit a major league fastball either
Speaker 3: at my age. But there's a lot of people who can,
Speaker 3: a lot of people who who can, who can drive
Speaker 3: trucks appropriately.
Speaker 4: Come back very true, very true, very true.
Speaker 3: Come back to the bus rider here, come back to
Speaker 3: this bus driver here. Uh this, this has gone on
Speaker 3: way too long as far as I'm concerned, and that's
Speaker 3: why I'm pretty upset about this, and and I wish
Speaker 3: other people felt the same way.
Speaker 4: Okay, one other last thing, yep about this authorities not
Speaker 4: coming upfront about this situation. I'm guessing strongly that there's
Speaker 4: a very good possibility that this driver might be related
Speaker 4: to somebody higher up, a politician that might be trying
Speaker 4: to delay this uh public.
Speaker 3: Yeah. First, first of all, Bruce, I disagree with you
Speaker 3: on that, and I'll tell you why. If this was
Speaker 3: if this was some guy who was the brother in
Speaker 3: law of some politician and he ran a stop sign
Speaker 3: or or he ran into a stop sign, Okay, I
Speaker 3: could buy that, But when something as serious as this
Speaker 3: that any politician, and I just don't believe that any
Speaker 3: politician would even think that way to be really honest
Speaker 3: with you. This is just this is the death of
Speaker 3: a child. This is the death of a five year
Speaker 3: old child.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, very serious. You know a lot of
Speaker 4: politicians well you know.
Speaker 3: I think sadly unfortunately we have found that to be true.
Speaker 3: But yes, I I just I on something like this
Speaker 3: five year old kid o, kiddo gets off a school bus.
Speaker 3: Uh and he's dead. That in a matter of seconds. Unacceptable, unacceptable. Hey, Bruce,
Speaker 3: I appreciate your call calling the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you much, my friend, Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 3: I have a great night. Right, let's keep rolling here.
Speaker 3: Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
Speaker 3: nine three one ten thirty. I'd like to if you
Speaker 3: want to comment on the Boston case, because we've talked
Speaker 3: about it now for two hours. That's fine, but I
Speaker 3: really would like to hear from people in response to
Speaker 3: the statement issue today by US Attorney Lea Foley. My
Speaker 3: hat's off to her. She made it pretty clear that
Speaker 3: and she's responding to what went on in Worcester last Thursday,
Speaker 3: where this crowd of outlaws decided they were going to
Speaker 3: prevent ice officers from taking someone into custody who they
Speaker 3: wanted to take into custody. Now, I'm assuming that the
Speaker 3: ICE officers had the appropriate authority to do what they
Speaker 3: tried to do if they didn't take it to court.
Speaker 3: There are plenty of judges out there, in federal courts
Speaker 3: and in state courts around this country who were more
Speaker 3: than happy to set and guess the procedures that are
Speaker 3: being used by ICE. But under no circumstances should people
Speaker 3: interfere with ICE officers, nor should they interfere with police officers.
Speaker 3: And the US Attorney Leo Foley read this statement, and
Speaker 3: I want to say hats off to Leo Foley, and
Speaker 3: I hope some of you will agree with me, because
Speaker 3: this is an appointed United States Attorney who basically has
Speaker 3: made it pretty clear that here in Massachusetts, the interference
Speaker 3: with ICE operations around Massachusetts has been disturbing to say
Speaker 3: the least. This conduct poses significant public and officers safety risks.
Speaker 3: It is conduct that should be vilified rather than glorified.
Speaker 3: I will not stand idly by if any public official,
Speaker 3: public safety officer, organization, or private citizen acts in a
Speaker 3: manner that criminally obstructs or impedes ICE operations. The United
Speaker 3: States Attorney's Office, along with our federal partners will investigate
Speaker 3: any violations of federal law and pursue charges that are
Speaker 3: warranted by such activity. She could not have said it
Speaker 3: more clearly, could not have written it more forcefully. People
Speaker 3: should be on notice at this point, I say, hats
Speaker 3: off to the United States Attorney Leah B. Foley of
Speaker 3: the District of Massachusetts. I wonder what former US Attorney
Speaker 3: Rachel Rollins, if she would have issued a statement like that.
Speaker 3: I'm not convinced she would have. But this is a
Speaker 3: different type of US attorney. This is a very active
Speaker 3: US Attorney's office right now. And let me tell you,
Speaker 3: we have seen millions of people committed this country illegally
Speaker 3: in the last few years, and many of them present
Speaker 3: significant danger. See I'm not talking about people you know
Speaker 3: who are here, but people who are here illegally. Presents
Speaker 3: significant danger. And why ICE went after this particular woman
Speaker 3: in Worcester, I want to know, just as I want
Speaker 3: to know why they went after the woman at Meantford,
Speaker 3: the Tough's University woman. But nobody, I say, nobody has
Speaker 3: a right to interfere with an ICE officer. Nobody has
Speaker 3: a right to interfere with a police officer. You want
Speaker 3: to make no, you want to you want to call lawyers.
Speaker 3: That's what lawyers are there for, that's what courts are
Speaker 3: there for. If it reduces to violence in this country,
Speaker 3: then no one will be safe, not the illegals, not
Speaker 3: the legals, and not the citizens. And if you want
Speaker 3: a country that is in chaos, continue to do what
Speaker 3: those people did in New Jersey the other day, and
Speaker 3: continue to do what the people in Worcester did the
Speaker 3: other night. They're disgraceful. In my opinion, we are a
Speaker 3: nation of laws, not of men. Follow the law. Law
Speaker 3: enforcement has to follow the law. That's why we have judges.
Speaker 3: I am. I'm sick and tired of the violence that
Speaker 3: people are so so quickly quick to participate in. We've
Speaker 3: seen a lot in this country over the years. It
Speaker 3: doesn't help anything at all. We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 3: I got some open lines, which to me is disgraceful.
Speaker 3: Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine,
Speaker 3: three one ten thirty You comment on either of these
Speaker 3: circumstances back on nightside.
Speaker 1: Right after this, You're on the Night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray on w BZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: Skid Rowland surely is in Lauren, surely welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 7: How are you gooding yourself?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 3: I'm doing just great. What is your take on either
Speaker 3: or both of these? Top?
Speaker 7: Okay, so the first thing is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have to turn your phone down. I'm
Speaker 3: sure that Rob told you to turn your phone down.
Speaker 3: Why don't you do this, Rob, Let's put Shirley on
Speaker 3: hold and explain to her why it's important for her
Speaker 3: to turn her phone down, and we'll get back to
Speaker 3: her in a moment, simple as that. Let me go
Speaker 3: next to Phil in Boston. Phill you next on Nightside.
Speaker 3: I know Phil has his phone turned down.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Phil, Oh yeah, damn Sorry. At this point
Speaker 6: I was looking fuse for all these things. But on
Speaker 6: that the CDL thing, I'm not an expert enough. You
Speaker 6: have to have an endorsement to a pass in your truck.
Speaker 6: You have to have an endorsement that drive has his material.
Speaker 6: So that means to me that you have to go
Speaker 6: through a test and take the training and that kind
Speaker 6: of a thing. And getting back to the worst thing,
Speaker 6: I mean, this is the way it's going on. I mean,
Speaker 6: the woman in city in Boston, the city council, she
Speaker 6: was you know, saying no, But they attract attention, they
Speaker 6: get their make them owns that way. The one was
Speaker 6: the she's getting points for being the way she is
Speaker 6: because the crowd's gonna back her up, and the poor
Speaker 6: corps and they're coming along. I mean, God forbid someone
Speaker 6: gets shot then then love me doing time and these
Speaker 6: people we drive around with him as unbelievable man. But
Speaker 6: I heard about that. In fact, that day I saw
Speaker 6: that the school a school bus being told from high Park,
Speaker 6: behind the police station, out of the fire station, going
Speaker 6: down somewhere. But I mean, that's and i'd forgotten all.
Speaker 6: I didn't know what the I didn't know what had happened.
Speaker 6: I knew it was kind of an an accident, but
Speaker 6: I'm surprised it doesn't have more often than Luckily it
Speaker 6: was light out, because if he is back or route
Speaker 6: when they can say what I mean, they're gonna probably
Speaker 6: it's just crazy. These bus drivers, they're unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's just one bus driver. Let's
Speaker 3: make that clearer. We don't know if he had a
Speaker 3: medical problem, or we don't know if he just or
Speaker 3: I don't know if they did toxology tests them. I
Speaker 3: assume talk psychology testing them. I assume they did. But
Speaker 3: it's been seventeen days. I think the public deserves the
Speaker 3: right to know, and we need a D eight that talks,
Speaker 3: and we need I we have we have a US
Speaker 3: attorney who is not shy to speak out, Thank god.
Speaker 3: Lea Foley is the US attorney.
Speaker 6: But I'm surprised that this there's some kind of demonstrations
Speaker 6: the general that they were in city hall protesting about
Speaker 6: some child being killed. You don't hear anything about it.
Speaker 6: I've gotten about the thing.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why we talked about it tonight, Phil, And
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you took the time to call.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you your loyalty. Did this program talk soon?
Speaker 3: Let me go back to Shirley in Lawrence Shirley hopefully
Speaker 3: where we got the phones turned down and we're all
Speaker 3: set and be able to hear exactly what you have
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, all right.
Speaker 7: So I'm just calling about to dispute what the gentleman
Speaker 7: had said before about the licensing. You do need to
Speaker 7: take tests, and they give you a very strict test.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 7: So I used to be a school bus driver and
Speaker 7: then I actually went on to drive the transit buses
Speaker 7: like the MBTA buses yep, only in the Merrimack Valley.
Speaker 7: And let me tell you what they put you through
Speaker 7: to take the test. You have to know parts of
Speaker 7: that bus. You have to be able to back that
Speaker 7: bus up and not even touch a cone. If you
Speaker 7: tap a cone, you fail. So it's it's not simple now.
Speaker 3: But well, let me just say this, if I could
Speaker 3: thank you for calling and clarifying that, okay, because I
Speaker 3: am amazed. I just want to ask you one question.
Speaker 3: How difficult is it to drive a school bus? I mean,
Speaker 3: I have my car and when I'm backing up, I'll
Speaker 3: always try to look each and every way. Uh how
Speaker 3: I kind of imagine I'm a pretty good driver. I've
Speaker 3: got a pretty good safety record, but I can't imagine
Speaker 3: myself trying to drive a bus. I really can't.
Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you it is.
Speaker 5: It is difficult.
Speaker 7: And what they tell you is that you try not
Speaker 7: to back, and you try not to do it. If
Speaker 7: you don't have to, you're better off going somewhere, turning around,
Speaker 7: like maybe at a cult to that or take a
Speaker 7: different street, because backing is one of the worst things
Speaker 7: that you can do. You don't want to back a
Speaker 7: bus if you don't have to, okay.
Speaker 8: For all safety reasons.
Speaker 7: And when I used to do the school bus, I'd
Speaker 7: always stop. I'd count my kids as they were getting off. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and you try to look around to make sure every
Speaker 7: child has you know, as you've seen foe heads get
Speaker 7: off the bus, you try to count your foreheads that
Speaker 7: you can see. Sure, tried to do everything as possible.
Speaker 7: I mean, no one knows the circumstance of what happened,
Speaker 7: and yet it's been a very long time and no
Speaker 7: one has any answers yet, but way.
Speaker 3: Too long a time. And that's why I'm ringing the
Speaker 3: bell tonight. I just I lost my patience with it.
Speaker 3: And again, look, if this driver had some sort of
Speaker 3: a medical crisis, that's one thing, okay, But we should
Speaker 3: know that if, on the other hand, toxology tests have
Speaker 3: come back and suggest that his behavior was not related
Speaker 3: to a medical problem.
Speaker 4: But was.
Speaker 3: Of some other source, that we need to know that
Speaker 3: as well. In my opinion, that's.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And we owe it to the child, we owe it
Speaker 3: to the child's family. And what I have said to you,
Speaker 3: and I've said before and I'll say the same thing
Speaker 3: to you. I think that people who live in some
Speaker 3: of the poorer communities, and Lawrence is one of those
Speaker 3: poorer communities, and Lowell and Brockton and Boston. If this
Speaker 3: happens in Wellesley, do you think take seventeen days for
Speaker 3: us to get some information on it. I don't think so.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: No, If some more affluent cities and towns that they
Speaker 7: want answers, they are going to find out what happened.
Speaker 6: And then just one.
Speaker 7: More thing is that they also do like when I
Speaker 7: work at the Transit Authority, they also if something were
Speaker 7: to happen and you did get into an accident, you
Speaker 7: do not leave your facility and they watch you to
Speaker 7: until the actual they have. It's just like a white
Speaker 7: box van. You go in there and you take a test,
Speaker 7: You take a blood alcohol to breathalyze the test, and
Speaker 7: you have to take a urine test.
Speaker 3: Which is which is the way it should be. Okay,
Speaker 3: which is simply the way it should be. And because
Speaker 3: you you were when you're driving a school bus, you
Speaker 3: were driving precious cargo. You're driving the precious cargo of
Speaker 3: other people. When I'm driving mike car, and if I
Speaker 3: drive stupidly, it's and I should I should be held responsible,
Speaker 3: responsible and if but even more importantly, hope, if I
Speaker 3: want to drive my car into a tree or into
Speaker 3: a telephone pole, that's my own stupidity. But if I'm
Speaker 3: going to drive a school bus into a situation like that,
Speaker 3: it's it affects more than me, It affects the kids
Speaker 3: on the bus as well. Thanks. Thank you for being
Speaker 3: such a good driver, and thank you for being for
Speaker 3: calling tonight and clarifank things. I appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 8: Yo, I'm going to have a great all right, cut.
Speaker 3: Again, good night. I'm gonna take a quick break. We're
Speaker 3: going to get everybody in, I promise back on nightside.
Speaker 3: We'll have plenty of time for Joe, Bob and John
Speaker 3: in New York. We're looking forward to all the three
Speaker 3: of these who want to talk about ice. I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to hearing what they each have to say. Well,
Speaker 3: get them all in coming back on night side. Well,
Speaker 3: it's a couple of lines open if you want to try,
Speaker 3: I guarantee Joe, Bob and John and I'll try to
Speaker 3: get you in as well. Six one seven two six one.
Speaker 1: It's nice eye with Dan Ray on w B Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go first to Joe Is in framing him.
Speaker 3: Joe next on Nightsager Right a hit.
Speaker 9: Shir Hi, probably about what happened in the Worcester ahead.
Speaker 9: I have a lot of interest in that area because
Speaker 9: my girlfriend lives in Worcester, and uh, I've been following
Speaker 9: that of it since.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what's your reaction to me, Mike, you.
Speaker 10: I was appalled by by what happens there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so a lot of curiosity that that uh day.
Speaker 11: Later that day, I took a ride down to uh
Speaker 11: Eureka Street to see what it was like, and it's
Speaker 11: very interesting, very nice area.
Speaker 10: Almost all single family homes. So the impression I get
Speaker 10: is that most of those rioters, I don't know what.
Speaker 12: Else to call them, that's a good word, that they
Speaker 12: probably don't come from the immediate area. I think they
Speaker 12: probably there was about twenty five of them, quote as
Speaker 12: the least, and I think they probably came from all over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably, you know, they didn't just happen to
Speaker 3: be there. Maybe they knew it was going down, or
Speaker 3: someone called him and they got there and they intentionally
Speaker 3: just like those guys, those people down in Newark, New Jersey,
Speaker 3: they literally, you know, threatened and pushed and shoved ice agents.
Speaker 3: You do that, you're going to get arrested, particularly based
Speaker 3: upon what the US attorney Leo Foley has said. And
Speaker 3: I say hats off to Leo Foley.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 10: Yeah, My girlfriend lives in Worcester, so I have a
Speaker 10: lot of what goes on there.
Speaker 3: Keep us posted. Feel free to call in any night. Joe.
Speaker 3: Have you called before? This is your first time calling.
Speaker 9: No, I've called a few times over the last ten years,
Speaker 9: but the last time I called was about.
Speaker 10: About three years ago.
Speaker 3: Join us more frequently, Joe. I appreciate it, Thank you much.
Speaker 4: Have a great night, all right, you too, all.
Speaker 3: Right, good night. Let me go to John in New York,
Speaker 3: New York City, or somewhere else in New York. John,
Speaker 3: go right.
Speaker 2: Ahead in Scoharry, New York.
Speaker 3: Now, where the heck is that.
Speaker 2: It's a rural town about forty five miles to the
Speaker 2: west of all the the state capital.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, I've had you before. I know that.
Speaker 3: So you're listening to us over there on radio or
Speaker 3: on the iHeart.
Speaker 2: App Originally I was listening to you on the way
Speaker 2: home from work every night on the car radio. You
Speaker 2: have a very powerful station.
Speaker 3: You know we do, we do, but now we have
Speaker 3: an high hearted You can listen to us anywhere in
Speaker 3: the world. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: And the reason I call is I wanted to say
Speaker 2: I understand how you feel about the matters you've been
Speaker 2: talking about for the last hour. I've been listening, and
Speaker 2: I understand and I agree with you and the fact
Speaker 2: that you have a loud voice being a man talking
Speaker 2: on a very powerful radio transmitter. People in your area
Speaker 2: that feel the way you do should light the torches
Speaker 2: and go to the city hall and authorities and ask
Speaker 2: them poor answers about all this stuff with the school boss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want anybody lighting torches. But I think
Speaker 3: that the problem right now is that there are people
Speaker 3: out there who decide that whatever they want, they're going
Speaker 3: to get. And they wanted wide open borders, and they
Speaker 3: had wide open borders for four years. And now elections,
Speaker 3: as President Obama once said, elections have consequences. There's a
Speaker 3: different president, there's a different philosophy in place. Uh, And
Speaker 3: the ICE is going to try to get and I
Speaker 3: hope ICE focuses on the most dangerous criminals who are
Speaker 3: here illegally. Uh, you know, you know, if there are
Speaker 3: people who are here. I have no idea what this
Speaker 3: woman was being arrested in in Worcester, but I would hope,
Speaker 3: I would hope that they would not just go after
Speaker 3: the low hanging fruit. Let's let's get the people out
Speaker 3: of here who can do damage to Americans. And if
Speaker 3: the other side wants to defend rapists and murderers and
Speaker 3: child molesters, so be it, so be it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, the torches comment I made, that
Speaker 2: was just a comment.
Speaker 3: I no, no, it was a figure of speech. I
Speaker 3: know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, people get together and they
Speaker 2: react and they do something. Maybe the way you would
Speaker 2: like to see this come to a conclusion, maybe it
Speaker 2: would help.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, there's a lot of folks on the progressive left,
Speaker 3: including elected officials. So for example, Rob, there's one SoundBite
Speaker 3: I want to play, uh, and this is the this
Speaker 3: is the Democratic leader in the House, Hakeem Jeffries, who
Speaker 3: made these comments after after this this Newark event at
Speaker 3: an ice headquarters where elected officials play play for me.
Speaker 3: Please Rob cut seventeen, and I want John to react
Speaker 3: to it. What happens if they were to go and
Speaker 3: arrest these members or if they would try to sanction
Speaker 3: them doing the house works.
Speaker 13: You don't find out.
Speaker 1: What would you do though? I mean, I don't find out.
Speaker 13: I mean, it doesn't find out.
Speaker 3: That's a red line.
Speaker 1: What's the red line? Though?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we have this.
Speaker 13: A red line. It's very clear. I think that the
Speaker 13: so called Homeland Security spokesperson is a joke. It's a joke.
Speaker 13: They know better than to go down that road. And
Speaker 13: it's been made loudly and abundantly clear to the Trump administration.
Speaker 13: We're not going to be intimidated by their tactics to
Speaker 13: try to force principled opposition from not standing up to
Speaker 13: their extremism. It hasn't happened during the entirety of this
Speaker 13: failed term. It didn't happen when Donald Trump temporarily was
Speaker 13: sitting high in the immediate aftermath of the election. Do
Speaker 13: you think it's going to happen now when he's the
Speaker 13: most unpopular president in American history after his first one
Speaker 13: hundred days. Give me a break. No one's intimidated by
Speaker 13: this dude.
Speaker 3: No one that guy is a disgrace and the Democrats
Speaker 3: should keep rolling him out, in my opinion, because to
Speaker 3: take that posture that they will do whatever they want. Uh, Okay,
Speaker 3: you want to play, you want to play with dynamite.
Speaker 3: That's what you're playing with, Hakeem Jeffries. Simple is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know.
Speaker 3: And he's a member of your your congressional delegation. There, John,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you never voted for him, but.
Speaker 2: Man, but I mean, this is the first time I
Speaker 2: heard this, and uh, I think this guy's an idiot.
Speaker 3: He's he's more than an idiot. He's a he's a
Speaker 3: he's a useful fool. Uh and and and a tool
Speaker 3: and a tool. All right, Hey, John, I appreciate. We've
Speaker 3: got to get one more in here. Got to get
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 10: Lobl for night.
Speaker 2: And thanks for having my call, So keep calling.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed. Now I'll recognize your voice for sure. Thanks, John,
Speaker 3: Talk to you soon. I got Bob in South Boston.
Speaker 3: Bobby're gonna wrap the evening for us, go right ahead.
Speaker 8: No, it's not Bob's pout, damn.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm sorry, it's Paul.
Speaker 5: Did you say, yeah from South Boston?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Paul. Okay, it simp it says Bob. I
Speaker 3: don't know how Rob got got Paul, but that's okay,
Speaker 3: I got you out here, Paul, go ahead.
Speaker 8: I just wonder, who the hell do these people think
Speaker 8: that they are doing this to Ice. It just wasn't
Speaker 8: in withst It's been happening all along, you know that, right?
Speaker 3: Well, absolutely well. I think they feel that even though
Speaker 3: there's a new president and there's a new administration and
Speaker 3: there's new policies, that the country has voted for their
Speaker 3: little babies, and they're still going to get their way. Well,
Speaker 3: guess what, as long as there's US attorneys like Leah
Speaker 3: Foley here in Massachusetts, they better watch what people. Thank
Speaker 3: god you have her is absolutely right, you know, and
Speaker 3: someone should. Uh. I just think that that we we're
Speaker 3: reaching a point in this country where we're losing our
Speaker 3: collective mind. And these folks they allowed a president in
Speaker 3: Joe Biden to leave the borders open for four years,
Speaker 3: remember may Orcus and those people. Uh, they they allowed
Speaker 3: a president who obviously was dealing with a lot of
Speaker 3: very serious issues. And and now, because because the world
Speaker 3: has changed a little bit, and it always changes, it
Speaker 3: swings back and forth in America. They're they're going to
Speaker 3: be up said and they're going to be cry babies.
Speaker 8: Well, then I'll say that you've done a lot of shows.
Speaker 8: And I said this before to you. You've done a
Speaker 8: lot of shows about the open border issue. I'm sure
Speaker 8: you know that. I don't know how many shows you done,
Speaker 8: but you've done a number of them.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, and we uh and we'll we'll continue, We'll continue.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be authentic. I will tell you what
Speaker 3: I believe. I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. I'm going
Speaker 3: to try to be respectful to people. I want to
Speaker 3: give everybody an opportunity to present their points of view.
Speaker 3: That's that's what Nightside is all about.
Speaker 8: And I appreciate you you on Dan, You're you're a
Speaker 8: good guy and you have a you know I love
Speaker 8: your show.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. Do me one favorite. Tell all your friends,
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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Paul, appreciate it so much. We talk soon.
Speaker 3: Have a great one. We had a great show tonight.
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