Speaker 1: I do wish we were recording when you said maybe
Speaker 1: we just never record the show ever again.
Speaker 2: I would have made for a good sound bite.
Speaker 3: At least I am really funny. I am a very
Speaker 3: funny I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't know if you're funny.
Speaker 1: You're just kind of a cynical asshole, which in itself
Speaker 1: is funny. Not that your funny, it's your like way
Speaker 1: of saying things makes me laugh because you're really outlandish,
Speaker 1: Like maybe we just never record the show ever again. Okay,
Speaker 1: holding you hostage here, I don't make you do the show.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, we had a minor setback.
Speaker 3: Let's just never talk ever again. Is that what are you.
Speaker 1: Gonna do, just like retire to Columbia and just like
Speaker 1: quite your job and we never hear from you again.
Speaker 2: Is that how you're gonna ride off into the sunset?
Speaker 3: I think when I do, I will say that when
Speaker 3: I do ride off into the sunset, I will not
Speaker 3: watch I'll never watch Nfell again. That'll be it for me, Columbia.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing you're gonna be able to watch that.
Speaker 1: In soccer, you're never gonna be able to watch college
Speaker 1: football ever again.
Speaker 3: Or college They don't have baseball in other countries.
Speaker 2: I mean, who cares about baseball? Me?
Speaker 3: I love baseball.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, yeah, I'm sure you can watch baseball. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you can probably watch NBA.
Speaker 3: No, thank you, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh the Kings.
Speaker 3: You know, the Kings are on a two game winning streak.
Speaker 3: They beat Houston as a fourteen point underdog on like Sunday,
Speaker 3: I think, and then they beat the Lakers as like
Speaker 3: a ten point underdog maybe last one. It's terrible. I'm
Speaker 3: no Kings. You know that they played the Knicks tonight,
Speaker 3: they play the New York Knicks in Sacramento, and again
Speaker 3: they're like, you.
Speaker 2: Didn't pay attention to the NBA yet.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm no Kings, dude. I told you that
Speaker 3: as I follow all their games. No Kings, you know
Speaker 3: I said this. I talked to my brother Peter yesterday.
Speaker 3: He called me and we were talking about the Nolan
Speaker 3: aeronauto got traded from the Cardinals to the Diamondbacks. And
Speaker 3: I was getting alerts to my phone that Nolan Aeronautal
Speaker 3: got traded. I think that shows you how boring the
Speaker 3: baseball off season's been. If that's supposed to be a
Speaker 3: news story.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 3: Well, he was a very good player for your team,
Speaker 3: the Rockies team.
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of I listen, technically, okay, here's what.
Speaker 2: There's a little convoluted stuff.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line and the reason why I brought
Speaker 1: it up during baseball season was because I happened to
Speaker 1: be a fan, right like I grew up a White
Speaker 1: Sox fan because all my cousins from Chicago, and then
Speaker 1: the Rockies were just easy because in the nineties they were, like,
Speaker 1: I think, an expansion team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. They're probably like ninety three maybe.
Speaker 1: Married to the guy that made me a Broncos fan,
Speaker 1: even though she tries to be a Chiefs fan now,
Speaker 1: which is very hilarious. She's been very quiet this postseason.
Speaker 1: But I laughed about baseball because I'm like, oh, of course,
Speaker 1: like no one are I hate baseball. Look at the
Speaker 1: two teams that I grew up being a fan of
Speaker 1: their god of.
Speaker 3: The White Sox won the World Series and five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Rockies won in like what two thousand
Speaker 2: and three or something.
Speaker 3: They got swept by the Red Sox and O seven
Speaker 3: okay that too, they did. They got they made it
Speaker 3: to the World Series, the Marvels.
Speaker 2: I was then I had a Paul Canerco jersey. There
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: The Marlins won the World Series O three. They beat
Speaker 3: the Yankees.
Speaker 2: The fact that you know that.
Speaker 3: Is how could anybody not know that? Honestly? How could
Speaker 3: anyone possibly not know that? Who won the World Series
Speaker 3: in two thousand and four?
Speaker 1: John Urty, I don't even know who won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in two thousand and four because that information is useless.
Speaker 2: It's more than twenty years old. You need to dump that.
Speaker 1: Shit out of your brain. There is more pressing things
Speaker 1: that you need to discuss in the year twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Red Sox won the World Series in two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: How could you possibly not know that? Umm, Patriots won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in two thousand and four. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: let's skip ahead. You want to talk about what last week?
Speaker 3: Last week's Do you want to talk about the college
Speaker 3: games or the ref games?
Speaker 2: We did talk about both.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I actually watched I actually did watch a
Speaker 3: lot of the Old Miss game. Because I was very
Speaker 3: fortunate I got invited to go to the Knights game.
Speaker 3: The Vegas Golden Knights played Columbus. I think and we were.
Speaker 2: In Yeah, I think it's very funny.
Speaker 1: You just went to a hockey game less than a
Speaker 1: week ago and couldn't remember who they played, But you
Speaker 1: know who won the World Series in two thousand and three, two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and four, Well and oh three, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: Well good point actually, But anyways, they had the game
Speaker 3: on in a suite, so we watched. We were all watching.
Speaker 3: We didn't really watch the second period of the Hocke
Speaker 3: game because we were all watching the game, the Old
Speaker 3: Miss game. And what really struck me about it was Miami.
Speaker 3: You know, the book on them is that their lousy defense,
Speaker 3: or that they're very good defensively, a little questionable offensively.
Speaker 3: But if you look at the three times where they
Speaker 3: really needed to score, you know, they couldn't punt the
Speaker 3: ball back to Ohio State up seventeen to fourteen. They
Speaker 3: probably lose the game if they do that. And they
Speaker 3: went down the field and they scored a touchdown to
Speaker 3: put the game away against All Miss, they go down
Speaker 3: the field, they score a touchdown, their defense gives up
Speaker 3: a touchdown and a two point conversion back, and then
Speaker 3: they go back down the field and scored another touchdown.
Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. It's pretty impressive. I wouldn't just totally
Speaker 3: dismiss the Miami offense because when they've needed to score,
Speaker 3: they have. They've got some great weapons, and Carson Beck
Speaker 3: has a lot of experience. I wouldn't totally write them off.
Speaker 3: I was impressed. I was very impressed that they were
Speaker 3: able to score. I know Ole Miss is pretty bad defensively,
Speaker 3: I get that, but I was definitely impressed that they
Speaker 3: were able to score twice like that. We were in
Speaker 3: for All Miss. We wanted Old Miss. And then the
Speaker 3: end Friday, I I think when I left work it
Speaker 3: was like thirty five to seven Indiana twenty eight to either.
Speaker 3: I never watched it. Once I got home it was over.
Speaker 3: But we everybody, everyone on Earth bet Indiana in the game, obviously,
Speaker 3: and they are all, did you blame them? No, No,
Speaker 3: I'll not say they like sometimes you have to just say, okay,
Speaker 3: everybody bet this team. And they were absolutely right. They
Speaker 3: were totally correct. And the one thing I noticed about
Speaker 3: Indiana against Alabama and from what I did see on
Speaker 3: Friday against Oregon, it seems like they could have won
Speaker 3: both games by a lot more if they needed to.
Speaker 3: It didn't really seem like they I don't want to
Speaker 3: say held back, but I think you know what I mean, right, Like,
Speaker 3: did they did they have to go? They didn't go
Speaker 3: balls to the wall for sixty minutes either time. It
Speaker 3: seems like they probably have another gear for Miami. So
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to see him on Monday night.
Speaker 1: I honestly I don't even know what to make of
Speaker 1: this now from Championship game.
Speaker 2: I came on here last week.
Speaker 1: I said, what do you think six and a half
Speaker 1: and he said no, no, no, no no, And now
Speaker 1: it's eight and a half and I don't know, are
Speaker 1: you guys going to go to nine nine and a
Speaker 1: half because of the what I.
Speaker 3: Said was what I said was I'm not going to
Speaker 3: dismiss our futures liability just because they're going to be
Speaker 3: a dog. We have a big liability in Miami.
Speaker 1: No, but when I talked about what we thought the
Speaker 1: number would be, and.
Speaker 3: You were right, obviously you were correct. But remember these
Speaker 3: lines can be inflated based on the semifinal. Like there's
Speaker 3: probably no better example that I can ever think of
Speaker 3: than ten years ago the Super Bowl Kelly's in Denver,
Speaker 3: the Broncos beat the Patriots Manning and Brady, and then
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game later that day, Carolina just boat
Speaker 3: races Arizona. They destroyed them. And that Super Bowl line
Speaker 3: Carolina Denver opened way higher than it should have been,
Speaker 3: than it was.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, than it would have been minus one and a half.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know because Carolina went fifteen and one
Speaker 3: of the regular season that year. I mean they were,
Speaker 3: they were and Dene the day that was.
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl that Von Miller ruined Cam Newton's life,
Speaker 1: and yeah it was. And now he didn't have enough
Speaker 1: money to pay for all those kids. Haven't you heard
Speaker 1: about that? He's like really upset. That's right, No, that's
Speaker 1: what he said. He said, like, hey, now that I'm
Speaker 1: not playing anymore, like that money is just not it's
Speaker 1: not going as far.
Speaker 2: And it's like Bro.
Speaker 3: And Denver, remember too, Denver was a home underdog in
Speaker 3: that AFC championship. Kid, so Carolina, Carolina definitely was going
Speaker 3: to be favorite, but they weren't going to be like
Speaker 3: a six and a half point favorite. So I think
Speaker 3: we get a little bit of that in this game. Indiana.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to Indiana, Miami, Indiana beats Oregon so soundly
Speaker 3: that you can't open them five and a half or
Speaker 3: six against Miami. Everybody's gonna bet Indiana and our ticke
Speaker 3: account in Indiana. Here the Super bowlk this games five
Speaker 3: days away, but it's like over four to one on Indiana. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think, I think the
Speaker 3: public they've got four NFL games this weekend to parlay
Speaker 3: their brains out to Indiana money line, to tease to Indiana,
Speaker 3: keep Indiana, get them under that time.
Speaker 2: I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: But you mentioned your guys' future liability on Miami, So
Speaker 1: I guess my question is how much do you guys
Speaker 1: actually want that?
Speaker 2: How much do you want those Indiana money line tickets?
Speaker 1: So talking about it have a less of an.
Speaker 2: Issue if Miami were to win, I guess you would say.
Speaker 3: We talked about this on Saturday. It's a great question.
Speaker 3: Of course, we had to meet about that, talk about
Speaker 3: how are we gonna what are we gonna do? When
Speaker 3: we met on Saturday, there were actually ten NFL games
Speaker 3: on the schedule prior to the National Championship Game, the
Speaker 3: six wildcard games and the four divisional playoff games, and
Speaker 3: we knew that people were going to be parlaying all
Speaker 3: the favorites for ten playoff games with Indiana money line.
Speaker 3: So our decision on Saturday was just book Indiana normally
Speaker 3: have a market number. Let's get through the weekend. Let's
Speaker 3: get through next weekend, which is now this weekend, the
Speaker 3: divisional weekend, and then on Monday, see how much parlay
Speaker 3: liability we have. Don't force Indiana money line bets eight, nine,
Speaker 3: ten days before the game, because you know you're gonna
Speaker 3: have that parlay liability already. So we weren't trying.
Speaker 1: Well, wouldn't you say that last weekend with all the
Speaker 1: dogs not named the Chargers winning out right, that definitely well,
Speaker 1: I guess I should say Houston also won, but I
Speaker 1: mean Rams money line cash. But if they had laid
Speaker 1: ten with the Rams, or you know, they laid Jacksonville
Speaker 1: money line and so forth, a lot of that already
Speaker 1: kind of got knocked out. Do you guys take that
Speaker 1: into account.
Speaker 3: Or Eagles was the big one, Eagles, the big one lost.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia was a big one lost. Yeah, but no, but
Speaker 3: you're right, that's that's my whole point is, we don't
Speaker 3: want to start forcing Indiana money line bets at a
Speaker 3: price that's not good for us, it's favorable to the customer.
Speaker 3: Until we see just how much of that parlay liability
Speaker 3: we have, there's gonna be a lot of people parlaying
Speaker 3: Seattle on. I think that's the late game Saturday. The
Speaker 3: two AFC games are both pretty close to pick'emish. I mean,
Speaker 3: New England's like a three point favorite, and then the
Speaker 3: Rams I think will be pretty popular. But we don't
Speaker 3: want to We're not trying to do anything too crazy
Speaker 3: until we get through this weekend. We'll see where we
Speaker 3: stand on Monday morning, and then we'll figure out what
Speaker 3: we're gonna do with the Miami liability. I mean, the
Speaker 3: one thing that does work in our favor is Indiana
Speaker 3: is a minus three fifty favorite right now, so that
Speaker 3: gives you a lot more of a chance to maneuver yourself.
Speaker 3: If we had this liability on Miami and they were
Speaker 3: favored on Monday, then we'd really be up sh It's creek, right.
Speaker 3: There'd be almost nothing we can do. But because Miami
Speaker 3: is such a big underdog we have we have some
Speaker 3: room to move.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just say that it's pretty close to fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty right on headed into Sunday. Right, you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, we don't need to change the money, Like,
Speaker 1: do you guys start moving You mentioned Seattle. I tease
Speaker 1: Seattle with Indiana. Oops, not supposed to do that. I
Speaker 1: tease the Broncos with Indiana. I have the Bills and
Speaker 1: the Bears.
Speaker 2: From last week and teas with them because I wanted
Speaker 2: to be on Indiana. But I didn't even want to.
Speaker 1: Lay six and a half with this team, so one
Speaker 1: and a half was a lot more palatable. Some of
Speaker 1: them are minus two even because it was for this weekend.
Speaker 1: But my question is, are you guys going to move
Speaker 1: off that eight and a half so that people maybe
Speaker 1: are less inclined or you guys don't really care.
Speaker 3: Boy, I don't know that i'd ever not want to
Speaker 3: write college football teasers Like I just can't imagine. I mean,
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, and it makes sense, and
Speaker 3: it definitely is part of.
Speaker 1: The pretending it's plus ev but because it is a
Speaker 1: standalone game, wanting to have some action and two of
Speaker 1: the legs have already come through, we'll see what I mean.
Speaker 3: But I I don't know that I mind taking some
Speaker 3: Indiana teaser action when I don't think college football teasers
Speaker 3: a smart best, and I know we're gonna need them
Speaker 3: anyway because of our future's position.
Speaker 1: I have full on plans if it hits probably ten
Speaker 1: to come back on Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I've had people text me that they think
Speaker 3: Miami is gonna win, including one gentleman who.
Speaker 1: Well, don't you dare say, Chris Filika, Because I.
Speaker 3: Think gentleman, I said, gentleman, don't you dare.
Speaker 1: Say it's gonna be video. I thought about texting myself
Speaker 1: and like, Chris, Chris.
Speaker 3: Can you can you do that with obviously bears? My boy?
Speaker 3: Can you be like when they when they put that
Speaker 3: video out? And my okay to just text and be like, dude,
Speaker 3: you're a fucking homer, You're a goddamn.
Speaker 1: But I was like, don't, Kelly, don't do it because
Speaker 1: here's here's the problem. If that was me and K
Speaker 1: State and I said, oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 1: ky State is an eight and al point this and
Speaker 1: is so crazy.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: No matter how much credibility I have being a k
Speaker 1: SAT fan, people would obliterate me for it.
Speaker 2: People know he's a Miami fan.
Speaker 3: But your fans are always looking to criticize you. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Is Bears following always
Speaker 3: giving him shit about.
Speaker 2: Probably I should have probably read the comment section. I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but my first inclination was like.
Speaker 1: Damn it, Felka, come on, like I want to take
Speaker 1: you seriously. He was right about the Alabama game, right
Speaker 1: about the Old Miss game. But uh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really funny though, because I was
Speaker 1: immediately was like, don't taxt him, don't text him.
Speaker 3: You should have texted him. Probably would have enjoyed hearing
Speaker 3: from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Kelly, I only talk to you maybe once
Speaker 1: or twice a year, But thanks for calling me an
Speaker 1: insufferable homer.
Speaker 3: Well, you're you threw the word insufferable in there.
Speaker 1: Because because anytime that you try to make a case
Speaker 1: for your own team, it just it just comes off
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 3: Right, I think you're I think think if somebody is
Speaker 3: trying to tell me why I should bet a team
Speaker 3: that I know is their favorite team, I'm gonna initially
Speaker 3: be skeptical. I'm gonna go into.
Speaker 1: It being like, no, well, there was three times I
Speaker 1: bet k football this year and they were It was
Speaker 1: at Baylor, at KU and at Utah, And those are
Speaker 1: the three times I bet that team and said, here's
Speaker 1: why KSE is gonna win this game. And they only
Speaker 1: want it at KU, they should have wanted Baylor, and
Speaker 1: they had multip opportunities to win as a seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half point.
Speaker 2: Underdog at Utah.
Speaker 1: That the more you're correct, the more credibility I think
Speaker 1: you kind of get if you know your team, but
Speaker 1: you also have to be able to bet against your team.
Speaker 3: Can I I don't believe that you only bet them
Speaker 3: three times. I'll be honest. No, out of two how
Speaker 3: many games at Bay twelve thirteen games you bet them
Speaker 3: three times?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I need my guys. You know, one of our producers,
Speaker 3: Louis Deofrio, he doesn't have enough to do. He's underworked.
Speaker 3: He's kind of scrambling looking for something to do. So
Speaker 3: what I need him to do is I need to
Speaker 3: go back. I need him to clip every single show
Speaker 3: we did during the college football regular season and find
Speaker 3: out how many times Kelly bet on Kansas State And
Speaker 3: what's more, I need him to do that and get
Speaker 3: it to me by the end of today because I
Speaker 3: don't really think he's got a lot on his plate,
Speaker 3: So can we do that?
Speaker 2: We bring him on camera just to see what he
Speaker 2: popped on earlier. I was like, whoa you were? You
Speaker 2: were mad that I made fun of him for looking
Speaker 2: like a grizzly bear.
Speaker 3: I don't think he does. He's got a he's got
Speaker 3: a beard. I think he's he's.
Speaker 2: Got a very very scruffy beard.
Speaker 3: And I think he's a beautiful man. I'm just telling
Speaker 3: you what I think. Uh, the wild Card games, we
Speaker 3: did very well on Sunday, especially Sunday was kind of
Speaker 3: Sunday was weird. Sat Saturday. We were gonna win like
Speaker 3: this huge amount on the on Green Bay and I
Speaker 3: guess that they just totally gave the game away. Is
Speaker 3: that what happened?
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they did the last time they were
Speaker 1: at Soldier Field, so why not do it twice just
Speaker 1: for funzies. I saw Afterman's missed that field goal, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, they're gonna lose this football game.
Speaker 3: I left, I left work. The last player of the
Speaker 3: game I saw was it was fourteen to three. Green
Speaker 3: Bay Chicago had the ball. I want to say, like
Speaker 3: around their own forty maybe, and they had a fourth
Speaker 3: down and they went for it and they didn't get it.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking myself, great, you know we're gonna
Speaker 3: win all this money and then we lost.
Speaker 1: Well, I remember thinking around halftime, Wow, I am I
Speaker 1: an idiot for teasing the Bears.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get blown out like they should have the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And uh, one of my Wagertark producers, Dan and you
Speaker 1: know Tom, they were in the chat and Tom's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have Bears money line, and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Tommy Viola, Tommy Viola, Yeah, he had Bear's
Speaker 3: money line. But it's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had Bear's money line. And I was like laughing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, of course you do.
Speaker 1: And Dan goes, Kelly, don't overthink it. Just bet Bears
Speaker 1: second half?
Speaker 2: Who's doing that all season long?
Speaker 3: Is that the kid that I did the show with
Speaker 3: that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh I like that guy. And he said bet Bears
Speaker 3: second half.
Speaker 2: He's like, where have you been all season long? Just
Speaker 2: bet Bear second half?
Speaker 3: That guy's Saturday not be well. I wish I had
Speaker 3: Bet Bears anything, but that was that was bad for us. Look,
Speaker 3: look Sunday we did very well. Uh. The first game
Speaker 3: of that day. I think when when you and I
Speaker 3: recorded our show on Wednesday of last week, we hadn't
Speaker 3: seen all that sharp Jacksonville money, but it came in
Speaker 3: like crazy during the weekend and even on Sunday morning.
Speaker 3: I think I saw circle go to two and a
Speaker 3: half at the end there we got to two. And
Speaker 3: that's from a game where where.
Speaker 1: Jackson Jacksonville plus one and a half one plus one.
Speaker 3: No you did, I think you did, because I think
Speaker 3: it was like plus one plus one and a half.
Speaker 3: It got to two minus two minus two and a
Speaker 3: half in some books. I just think you got to
Speaker 3: understand that if a game moves from plus one and
Speaker 3: a half to minus two, even if the team loses
Speaker 3: on a touchdown on the last series of downs, that
Speaker 3: was the sharp side you guys. I'm sorry, Like I
Speaker 3: don't even but.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem.
Speaker 1: They hear the Sharps are betting the Rams, right, So
Speaker 1: I do my show with Crack on Mondays.
Speaker 2: Oh, they just bet the Rams. I do my show
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: I do my show with VR before you bet on
Speaker 1: it on Wednesdays, Oh, they bet the Rams. We come
Speaker 1: on to do Kelly and Murray Wednesday Night. Oh, they
Speaker 1: bet the Rams. So people hear that all week they
Speaker 1: bet the Rams. They bet the Rams. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: expect this.
Speaker 2: Like Rams blowout and buy all and did the purposes.
Speaker 1: At first, it looked like, I think it was like
Speaker 1: fourteen to nothing right out of the gate, and it
Speaker 1: looked like the Rams were going to blow them out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what, To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: I don't blame the people that are upset because they
Speaker 3: lost their money.
Speaker 1: I'd be annoyed to why were you I didn't understand
Speaker 1: the sharp being the Rams.
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't blame anybody that bets every
Speaker 3: playoff game. You shouldn't do that, by the way, But
Speaker 3: I don't blame people for it because they're watching the game.
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. The one they all.
Speaker 1: Jar I only bet the Panthers because Trent was on
Speaker 1: the Rams. Like, I was not planning on betting the Panthers.
Speaker 2: But I did have.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford under two hundred and sixty five and a
Speaker 1: half passing yards on splash. He was sitting at like
Speaker 1: two thirty and before that last series and Brett.
Speaker 2: Goes, oh, you're fucked.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and I was like, I got forty
Speaker 1: five yards and he goes, yeah, and look how far
Speaker 1: they have to go to win this football game?
Speaker 2: And I was like shit, Like I also was absolutely right.
Speaker 3: Stafford rips man. I mean he was. He was ripping
Speaker 3: balls in there and his receivers were dropping him and
Speaker 3: then on the next play just rip another ball to
Speaker 3: another receiver. He looked really good. Yeah, I don't but
Speaker 3: I don't blame people for being upset. But I think
Speaker 3: there was some buyback on Carolina. Never saw the buy
Speaker 3: back on Chicago.
Speaker 1: Never saw them go back to the buy back thing.
Speaker 1: Because VR and I talked about this this morning.
Speaker 3: Let me give you the perfect example of the buyback.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the the perfect example
Speaker 3: was the afternoon game Sunday. Philadelphia goes three and a half, four, five, six.
Speaker 3: Then on Sunday It's becomes official that Lane Johnson is
Speaker 3: not going to play for Philadelphia, that Trent Williams is
Speaker 3: going to play for San Francisco. So you're talking about
Speaker 3: two offensive tackles that are both gonna have their own
Speaker 3: bust in Canton one day. One of them is not playing,
Speaker 3: the other one is. And then yes, there was money
Speaker 3: that came.
Speaker 1: On differently, dumbying it up. You don't think the Sharps
Speaker 1: dummied up that game.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that the injury news
Speaker 3: came back. But I look at I look at three games.
Speaker 2: I laid four and a half with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I gave it out on bet on it, and then
Speaker 1: at seven and a half, I'm like, I have to
Speaker 1: bet the Niners. And I didn't find a seven and
Speaker 1: a half, so I bet seven minus one oh five
Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't like this injury news.
Speaker 1: I no longer like the Eagles at seven, and I
Speaker 1: have an okay position. Maybe the game lands five six
Speaker 1: or evan whatever. So that's the kind of like interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: How the market gets manipulated on purpose sometimes or.
Speaker 2: It is because of the news.
Speaker 3: Well I guess I don't know that for sure, but
Speaker 3: I think it was. The timing of the bets made
Speaker 3: me think it was injury related. But the money never
Speaker 3: came back on Chicago or Buffalo. I mean, these guys,
Speaker 3: they rode on green Bay, and green Bay could have
Speaker 3: easily won the game, and they rode on Jacksonville, and
Speaker 3: Jacksonville could have also easily won the game. You know,
Speaker 3: I think that was the game that was of all
Speaker 3: the Wildcard games, the one I watched the most. I
Speaker 3: probably watched every play of that game, and it's just
Speaker 3: it's so funny being in the risk room with the
Speaker 3: guys and it's like, okay, so Buffalo's got that fourth
Speaker 3: down and they carry Allen into the end zone basically,
Speaker 3: which I don't even think is legal, but whatever, and
Speaker 3: then they they challenge it and it's like, oh no, wait,
Speaker 3: he's down inside the one, which is actually good for
Speaker 3: Buffalo because Buffalo should want to run the clock. So
Speaker 3: we're all sitting back there like, okay, you're Buffalo. Jacksonville's
Speaker 3: got no timeouts. All you've got to do is just
Speaker 3: take one knee, run the clock down to like twenty
Speaker 3: five seconds, call timeout, and then you have three Josh
Speaker 3: Allen quarterback sneaks from the one yard line and you
Speaker 3: win the game. Nope, we'll just go ahead and score
Speaker 3: on the first play of the game. Idiot, your first play,
Speaker 3: first down. Idiots. And then they idiots and then they
Speaker 3: give Jacksonville like a minute.
Speaker 1: And Jacksonville game, Well, it would have tied it.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry times, you know, but you're.
Speaker 3: Right though, we're all we're all laughing back there, like,
Speaker 3: here's the only way the Buffalo doesn't win the game.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna stop Josh Allen four times or three
Speaker 3: times in the one yard line. The guy's a freaking tank.
Speaker 3: So the only way you can lose is you score
Speaker 3: too quickly. They score on the front the first the
Speaker 3: first play.
Speaker 2: They give Jacksonville ticket holder, I was like, okay, good,
Speaker 2: we got camps.
Speaker 1: I mean, the worst thing that could have happened for
Speaker 1: the Jags is exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence throws an interception.
Speaker 3: Although that was a pretty good defensive play, I thought.
Speaker 2: Didn't say it wasn't it just I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're going to overtime.
Speaker 1: Like that's how my brain had already like, all right,
Speaker 1: we got enough time to get within field goal range,
Speaker 1: We're going to overtime.
Speaker 3: I was incredibly impressed. Well, al Alan obviously was amazing.
Speaker 3: I was incredibly impressed with all these guys hurt. Then
Speaker 3: they lose George Kittle in the first half. He's out
Speaker 3: for the year. They're on the road against an Eagles
Speaker 3: team that is very good defensively, and they win the
Speaker 3: game on the road. All those guys hurt. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can say enough good things
Speaker 3: about Kyle Shanahan and Robert Salaw and Brock Purty. I
Speaker 3: don't know how you can say enough good things about
Speaker 3: those guys that that is such an impressive win.
Speaker 2: On the A seven and a half point underdogets Seattle.
Speaker 3: Well look how many guys land out Monday.
Speaker 2: Said it best.
Speaker 1: She's like, I never want to hear the Ravens talk
Speaker 1: about how injured they are again.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't had the heart to say this
Speaker 3: to Ariel yet because she'll get mad at me. But
Speaker 3: you know, all these that's fine, But all these times
Speaker 3: where the Ravens lost these games in the playoffs, all
Speaker 3: this heartbreak. The only reason they won the one super
Speaker 3: Bowl they did win under Harbaugh. Under Harbaugh, I know,
Speaker 3: I understand they won one under Brian Billick, But the
Speaker 3: only one they won under Harbaugh was because that Denver
Speaker 3: safety misplays the ball to Jacoby Jones. You obviously remember
Speaker 3: that like a total fluke. I mean, if Denver plays
Speaker 3: even basic defense, they win that game, and the Ravens
Speaker 3: never end up in that Super Bowl in which they
Speaker 3: beat the forty nine ers, So let's not forget about that.
Speaker 1: Ariel Epstein, Well there's that, but I okay, well whatever,
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. I think sometimes they
Speaker 1: get new blood in there is a good thing. Not
Speaker 1: saying I mean, obviously, Harbrough is probably gonna be the
Speaker 1: new head coach of the Giants.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even official yet as of filming.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm basically it's gonna be close, but he's
Speaker 1: going to probably do an okay job. It's still the
Speaker 1: New York Giants. There's still a lot of other hurdles there.
Speaker 1: But getting some new blood into the Ravens organization might
Speaker 1: be a good thing. We saw it with the Eagles
Speaker 1: getting rid of Andy Reid, who was a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning quarterback for the art quarterback, super Bowl winning coach for.
Speaker 3: Them, super Bowl losing coach.
Speaker 2: Did he lose? Did he lose?
Speaker 3: Okay, we lost to Pots.
Speaker 1: Okay, regardless, he took them to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: still lost his job. I just you know, I think
Speaker 1: the same thing with the Steelers. I like Mark Tomlin
Speaker 1: a lot, but it's time to move on. Can't just
Speaker 1: keep winning nine games, ten games. I'm not watching them
Speaker 1: on Monday night, I'm like, how the fuck did this
Speaker 1: team win ten games?
Speaker 3: That was another one where we had some really sharp
Speaker 3: accounts that played plus three and a half and plus
Speaker 3: three even and never really saw sharp guys come back
Speaker 3: on Houston, at least not here. And it was I
Speaker 3: think it was even to six going to the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: and then the wheels just came off. So again, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't blame people for being upset. You lose
Speaker 3: your money, you're gonna be upset. I get that. But
Speaker 3: that's what the people here bet. I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what else I
Speaker 3: can say. You know what, there's a lot of guys
Speaker 3: that I trust, a lot that I think are really sharp,
Speaker 3: that I talked to on Friday, and they, pretty much
Speaker 3: to a man, all told me how much they liked
Speaker 3: Oregon against Indiana, and uh, they were wrong, they were
Speaker 3: they were mistaken about that. But what can you do.
Speaker 3: That's why you gotta you got Seriously, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 3: You gotta bet money you can afford to lose. You
Speaker 3: shouldn't be melting down on social media after a game.
Speaker 3: If you bet more money than you can Afford. That's
Speaker 3: your fault. That's on you guys. Uh divisional playoff weekend.
Speaker 3: You want some picks or what we're saying. So the
Speaker 3: the first game is your game, Kelly, the Bills and
Speaker 3: the Broncos. You know, we had this game like pick them,
Speaker 3: and we actually took money initially on the Bills at
Speaker 3: pick them because I think it was only because the
Speaker 3: offshore books were more like minus one. So they're minus one,
Speaker 3: we're pick. That's how people bet. They see there's one point,
Speaker 3: Davis of the market bed, so they bet the Bills.
Speaker 3: But now you're already seeing that line come the other
Speaker 3: way towards the Denver side, and Denver is now a
Speaker 3: one and a half point favorite here. Buffalo doesn't have
Speaker 3: a lot of weapons to begin with on offense, and
Speaker 3: they lost two of their receivers in the game on Sundays.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna all fall on Josh Allen's shoulders again.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to just do it all by himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the argument is, at least from everybody I
Speaker 1: talked to, is why are the Bills a road favorite here?
Speaker 3: Well? Or not anymore?
Speaker 2: No, not not now, but they were this morning.
Speaker 3: I mean they were.
Speaker 1: I teased the Broncos on I think late Sunday night
Speaker 1: when the lines came out with Indiana, and then this
Speaker 1: morning was pick them.
Speaker 2: Now they're minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a couple other spots.
Speaker 3: I think it's mostly minus one. We're minus one and
Speaker 3: a half. We went to minus one and a half
Speaker 3: Wednesday morning on Denver. A lot of guys out for
Speaker 3: Buffalo's offense, receivers, Denver's off of bye week. I think
Speaker 3: Denver's got a big advantage at the head coaching position.
Speaker 3: I think they've They've got a big advantage on the
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. The only thing favoring Buffalo
Speaker 3: is bon Knicks is still a relatively inexperienced quarterback. Allen
Speaker 3: is as good as it gets, so can he do
Speaker 3: it all by himself?
Speaker 2: I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, listen, if bo Knicks throws a
Speaker 1: couple of picks, they're gonna lose that football game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I think that's.
Speaker 2: A fair assumption of the game.
Speaker 1: I gave it out on bet on It just because
Speaker 1: we have to talk about all the games, and I said.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a Broncos. I've been screaming. The Broncos are
Speaker 2: a fraud all season long from a.
Speaker 1: Offense, from the offensive standpoint, because they don't beat teams
Speaker 1: by margin, but as an underdog or close to a
Speaker 1: pick um type game at home off a week of rest,
Speaker 1: I'd sure like to think Sean Payton has this team ready.
Speaker 1: You got the Bills going to Jacksonville, now to Denver.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was just getting just like you said, they
Speaker 1: drug him into the end zone. Like the guy was
Speaker 1: just getting pummelted his offensive line. Whatever he gave them
Speaker 1: for Christmas, he needs to ask for it back because
Speaker 1: like those guys, those guys just let it. I watched
Speaker 1: that entire game because I was on the Jags, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, poor Josh Allen, Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, can you guys? Can you guys?
Speaker 1: Even if they even if they go to the conference championship,
Speaker 1: Let's say they do beat Denver, Josh Allen is gonna
Speaker 1: be so banged up.
Speaker 2: By that game or the Super Bowl, Like, come on.
Speaker 3: Well, Buffalo's got Buffalo's got some good I like Cook
Speaker 3: the running back. They've got some good pieces. But it's
Speaker 3: a one man band. It's this guy. He's got to
Speaker 3: pretty much do it all himself. He runs, he throws,
Speaker 3: he's he's gonna be up against it on Saturday. And
Speaker 3: then and both of the underdogs on Saturday, Buffalo and
Speaker 3: San Francisco. They're both coming off of a short week.
Speaker 3: They both played on Sunday, they both played on the
Speaker 3: road on Sunday. Now they're traveling to a team that
Speaker 3: was off last week. I don't I actually think that's fair,
Speaker 3: by the way, because it's rewarding the one seeds. I
Speaker 3: don't really have a problem with it. I saw people
Speaker 3: saying the Rams and the Bears should have played on
Speaker 3: Saturday because they both won on Saturday, and I get that,
Speaker 3: But I also don't really see why it's a bad
Speaker 3: thing to give Seattle a competitive advantage when they earn
Speaker 3: the one seed. I don't really see that as being
Speaker 3: a bad thing. But that's the one game where there
Speaker 3: has been a lot of action already. We did go
Speaker 3: to seven a couple of reasons. We had a very
Speaker 3: sharp account, took San Francisco plus seven and a half
Speaker 3: last night. We also have I think I said this
Speaker 3: on the show last week, but I don't remember. We've
Speaker 3: got a significant conference futures liability on the forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: so we don't really want to see them win. There
Speaker 3: was no reason to stay at seven and a half.
Speaker 1: So I get that, but why not move it to
Speaker 1: seven and a half minus one fifteen minus one twenty
Speaker 1: and see if I.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a the guys, the guys here.
Speaker 1: Seven is such a key number. Like I'm looking at
Speaker 1: one of my books and he's seven and a half.
Speaker 1: He's minus one oh five normally, but he's seven and
Speaker 1: a half minus one fifteen.
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound silly to people, but it's what
Speaker 3: I believe, and it's what a lot of the guys
Speaker 3: that work here believe, not all, but some. I don't
Speaker 3: like juice. I think it's confusing to the customer. I mean,
Speaker 3: I understand you got to do it when you're on
Speaker 3: on or off three, and we do do it.
Speaker 1: All and that's what I was I know on and
Speaker 1: off three, but I was thinking, such as secondary number, do.
Speaker 3: It on seven sometimes too. But I just I don't
Speaker 3: like juice. I don't like I'm not a big juice guy.
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about O. J. Simpson, not a
Speaker 3: big O. J. Simpson guy either.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I didn't.
Speaker 3: Not a big O. J. Simpson guy either, But no,
Speaker 3: I don't like, No, we'll see we might. We might
Speaker 3: use seven some form of seven or seven and a
Speaker 3: half juice. I'm not saying we never do that. Obviously
Speaker 3: we do. But we got a few days to work
Speaker 3: with that game. And they and the guy that about
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers plus seven and a half pretty
Speaker 3: sharper count. And I know people are gonna roll their
Speaker 3: eyes because those groups, uh got the last weekend New
Speaker 3: Well last week. But the guy's a sharper count. The
Speaker 3: early game Sunday is in New England. Houston off of
Speaker 3: a Monday night game in which basically their defense kicked
Speaker 3: the ship out of Aaron Rodgers. And I think because
Speaker 3: of the final score, that was a really misleading final
Speaker 3: score because it wasn't a blowout game. It was a
Speaker 3: really close game, and Houston's offense was horrible in that game.
Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud, I mean, I I fucked up.
Speaker 1: I was being a kind of a djon and I
Speaker 1: was like, I saw a sharp account play the Steelers,
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what, I can use some
Speaker 1: more Indiana teaser money. And I tease the Steelers to
Speaker 1: plus nine.
Speaker 2: Dumb move.
Speaker 1: Maybe not if the game the final score, you know,
Speaker 1: ended up seven to six, but the reality two.
Speaker 3: Defensive touchdowns in the fourth quarter, is that correct? I
Speaker 3: mean that, no matter what you think of that game,
Speaker 3: that was a very misleading final score. Correct, But that
Speaker 3: was not a thirty to six game.
Speaker 1: That was one of those things where you kind of go,
Speaker 1: you wake up on Tuesday morning, you're You're like, why
Speaker 1: did I do that? It is what it is, but
Speaker 1: I kind of have to wonder.
Speaker 2: I like CJ. Stroud a lot. I think they this
Speaker 2: last like five six weeks though. The Texans have just
Speaker 2: been going through the motions and.
Speaker 1: Granted they're playing crappy teams like the Titans and the
Speaker 1: Raiders and they just but you gotta still be in
Speaker 1: playoff form, and they did not look like they were
Speaker 1: in playoff form in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Outside of the defense, which we know is do you
Speaker 2: guys have them? Number one?
Speaker 3: I think they're as good as the defense as I've
Speaker 3: seen this year. I mean, they just they destroy you
Speaker 3: up front. So what will happen with New England on Sunday?
Speaker 3: New England easily beats the Chargers on Sunday night. They
Speaker 3: continue to easily win all these games. As everybody continues
Speaker 3: to say they're overrated, they played an easy schedule, they
Speaker 3: just continue to not just win.
Speaker 1: But when all these things can be true, they still
Speaker 1: played a very easy schedule, but they're still beating the
Speaker 1: market and winning these games by margin.
Speaker 3: They won sixteen to three. They we did see a
Speaker 3: little bit money go on New England minus two and
Speaker 3: a half moved this to New England minus three. I
Speaker 3: don't much have much to say about that game. I
Speaker 3: would not watch that game if it was not a
Speaker 3: playoff game. But it is a playoff game, and here
Speaker 3: we are the night game, or the I should say,
Speaker 3: the afternoon game on the West Coast. I guess I
Speaker 3: don't think the NFL played this game Sunday as some
Speaker 3: reward to Seattle. I think they did it because they
Speaker 3: thought Rams Bears would be the best game for TV ratings.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like seven degrees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's gonna be It'll be wild at Soldier Field.
Speaker 3: It'll be the ratings. The ratings on this game will
Speaker 3: be awesome. I think we gotta keep an eye on Stafford.
Speaker 3: He obviously had some issues with his hand on Saturday
Speaker 3: against Carolina. They barely won that game. But the question
Speaker 3: really is gonna be Chicago's defense. Can they stop the
Speaker 3: Rams from moving the football? I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, Well, I thought that the Packers were going to.
Speaker 2: Literally run away with it.
Speaker 3: I don't think that the I didn't watch. I didn't
Speaker 3: watch any of the game after I left work. But
Speaker 3: from what everyone told me, the Rams coaching staff isn't
Speaker 3: going to make the mistakes that the Green Bay coaching
Speaker 3: staff made. Is that okay to say? I mean the
Speaker 3: Packers basically gave the game away? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Listen, I've never really liked Laflor.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he still has a job. But
Speaker 2: here we are.
Speaker 3: We'll need uh. Having said all this, we will be
Speaker 3: big Bears fans on Sunday Night. We do much better
Speaker 3: than on them in the futures.
Speaker 2: Books because the biggest need of the week.
Speaker 3: I think the Bears will end up being our biggest
Speaker 3: need of the week because we do much better on
Speaker 3: them in the futures. We don't want to see the
Speaker 3: Rams get to the super Bowl. That there's bad exact
Speaker 3: prices in there for us. We don't like them in
Speaker 3: the Futures book. We do have good positions on the Bears.
Speaker 3: The parlays are going to go to the Rams money line,
Speaker 3: I think, I think that the Bears will be the
Speaker 3: team we're really rooting for this weekend, so we'll be
Speaker 3: He's good for me. I can root for my fellow
Speaker 3: Goodzaga alum Caleb Williams. Okay, Caleb Williams. The Bears go Bears.
Speaker 1: All right right now on January fourteenth, so less than
Speaker 1: a month away, a couple of weeks, three weeks. What
Speaker 1: is your biggest Super Bowl liability? Who do you guys
Speaker 1: not want the.
Speaker 3: Rams? No, it's good, it's still a good question. We
Speaker 3: lose on the Rams. And I was looking through the
Speaker 3: exact as this morning, the Ram. If the Rams and
Speaker 3: the Bills play each other in the Super Bowl, we're
Speaker 3: a big loser both ways on that exacta. And really
Speaker 3: the Rams against a number of the other teams that
Speaker 3: are still alive in the AFC, not big losers, but
Speaker 3: all not good for us, let's say. And I asked,
Speaker 3: I asked one of the guys that works here about
Speaker 3: that this morning, and he was like, John, I don't
Speaker 3: know how to tell you this but if the Rams
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, you're gonna have to rehire Andrew
Speaker 3: babeket Is just so that you can fire him because
Speaker 3: he put up the exact daend the summer, So I'd
Speaker 3: have to I'd have to go and find out where
Speaker 3: Andrew Babekidas is working. Well, he works remotely, so whatever
Speaker 3: it is he does all day, you don't really call
Speaker 3: that working, right. He's probably like whoa whoa, whoa whoa,
Speaker 3: like at the dog park or whatever he's doing, and
Speaker 3: then and then hire him and then fire. So the
Speaker 3: answer to your question is the Rams. What's that?
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing about you saying at the dog park?
Speaker 1: Never once if I went to the dog park in
Speaker 1: the middle of my work day, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think Andrew has a dog.
Speaker 1: That doesn't even make it his new employer because they
Speaker 1: think he's at the dog park.
Speaker 3: I don't think he even has a dog. I don't
Speaker 3: think he has a dog, because.
Speaker 1: Then I have somebody to hang out with me all day,
Speaker 1: except I now instead of having a dog, I have
Speaker 1: a grimlin literally, So they say that when you adopt
Speaker 1: a dog, you got to give him two days so
Speaker 1: they can start to like relax right, especially if you're
Speaker 1: getting from a kennel or shelter or wherever and they
Speaker 1: haven't been in like a foster home. So two days,
Speaker 1: then they say two weeks, they start to feel more comfortable,
Speaker 1: and then two months like is who they really are?
Speaker 1: We are seven weeks in and he is a fucking grimlin.
Speaker 1: He is out of control. Like okay, So when I
Speaker 1: first got him, he wasn't fixed, so he tried to
Speaker 1: like mark on things. So we got rid of that habit, okay.
Speaker 1: Then he started the jumping habit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like me anybody like just jumping Mario.
Speaker 3: Mario always wants to be on me, like like he
Speaker 3: wants to jump all up. He wants me to hold on,
Speaker 3: he wants me to jump in my arms. I don't
Speaker 3: mind it. I love Mario, okay, but you can't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like Grandma comes over and she's wearing shorts like
Speaker 1: that dog's in like trash her legs. Like, cannot have
Speaker 1: dogs at jump, you cannot dogs at bark. So he
Speaker 1: doesn't bark for like five weeks. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's barks all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, who are you? No wonder they dumped
Speaker 2: your ass. You made society. You are insane.
Speaker 1: He literally all he does all day long is fight
Speaker 1: with Reese. All they do is wrestle. He goes underneath
Speaker 1: my bed and digs at my carpet and then barks
Speaker 1: at her and goes in and out, in and out,
Speaker 1: in and out for like hours. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be like, go go two point o.
Speaker 1: Yours was to lay in my office and be super
Speaker 1: cute and love me. And he's like, don't hold me, lady,
Speaker 1: I gotta go find food.
Speaker 3: How old is he too? Oh well, he'll sew down Mario. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this dog is not settling down for at least
Speaker 1: a good five years.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 1: I literally selfishly adopted this dog for myself, and he's
Speaker 1: like Reese's best.
Speaker 3: Friend, don't you. He doesn't care about me.
Speaker 2: He likes going to for car rides with Brett.
Speaker 1: He likes eating food, and he likes and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh hey.
Speaker 2: Lady, well.
Speaker 3: I want I want to remind everybody out there, the
Speaker 3: people that love to talk ship to the lovely k
Speaker 3: I V. Kelly and Brett. They both have hearts of gold,
Speaker 3: adopting all these dogs, taking them into their home. These
Speaker 3: these are the people that you're talking negatively about on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Get a fucking life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like I'm like orphan ins orphans
Speaker 1: and like real things, like I can handle this dog.
Speaker 1: I just it's the funniest thing because he has come
Speaker 1: out of his shell so much that I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think of the movie Gremlins. He's like, ah, like bites
Speaker 1: he like comes into my office about the door. He
Speaker 1: runs a hot level on my desk. If I have
Speaker 1: my hand down here, he bites my hand and then
Speaker 1: takes off again. And I'm like, hey, goodness, do you
Speaker 1: know how.
Speaker 3: Do you know the movie Gremlins? You don't know Casino
Speaker 3: and goodfellow Godfather, how do you know Gremlins? To matter
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 1: Because certain scary movies that definitely traumatize me as a
Speaker 1: child that I'm never gonna not forget.
Speaker 3: I always thought Gremlins too, man, I.
Speaker 2: Guess thats too.
Speaker 3: When I was a little kid. I love that movie.
Speaker 3: Remember they they the Gremlins take over like the news
Speaker 3: building in New York City.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the premise of the movie.
Speaker 1: I just remember the guy with the really pointy ears
Speaker 1: and the scary teeth and.
Speaker 3: That's my dog. Okay, well, I okay, I just think
Speaker 3: it's really strange that you don't know who Henry Hill
Speaker 3: is and you know gremlins, so have you? All right,
Speaker 3: we'll do the mail bag. But have you ever seen
Speaker 3: the tracking shot of Henry Hill and his girl going
Speaker 3: to the back room of the Copacabana They go through
Speaker 3: the kitchen. You've never seen that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure I have.
Speaker 3: That might be that could be the most famous shot
Speaker 3: in the history of cinema. That's Henry Hill, that's Martin's
Speaker 3: all right, do the mailbag.
Speaker 1: Before we do the mailbag, we have to talk about
Speaker 1: the Super Book props contest for the Big Game. We're
Speaker 1: not allowed to call it the Super Bowl, in case
Speaker 1: you didn't know the Big Game?
Speaker 3: What about? What about it?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What about it? It's your contest.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll have to we'll have to do that next
Speaker 3: week on the show. I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I know everything about it because it's my job.
Speaker 3: Okay, tell me about it.
Speaker 2: One hundred dollars a entner. You can have up to
Speaker 2: five entries.
Speaker 1: You can start signing up this weekend at the Westgate
Speaker 1: Super book. You can sign up until February eight at
Speaker 1: two pm. That gives you a couple hours for kickoff
Speaker 1: to get your picks in. There's gonna be thirty prop
Speaker 1: bets and you got to choose one side.
Speaker 2: And I believe it's winner.
Speaker 3: Take All super sounds like a great contest.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we put this in the show.
Speaker 1: John Hoglin, just take the video I sent you for
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I didn't look at any of the notes.
Speaker 3: What do you want from me?
Speaker 2: All right? First question, let me get the mail bag open.
Speaker 1: Okay, reminder West gets Big Game Prop contest opens for
Speaker 1: sign ups this weekend. One hundred dollars to enter contest.
Speaker 1: Select a side for each of the thirty props.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: You make that more expensive.
Speaker 1: No, one hundred bucks, just like trust me if I've
Speaker 1: learned anything on Splash anything. Twenty five dollars is my audience,
Speaker 1: Ariel and I filled up not one, but two contests. Wow,
Speaker 1: and that NFL Playoff Survivor and way before the deadline
Speaker 1: like the first one filled in like the first three days.
Speaker 1: Twenty five dollars I think is an easy low inte.
Speaker 3: Do you think it was because of Ariel's celebrity. Is
Speaker 3: that why it filled up?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, because you said you were going to enter,
Speaker 1: so everybody else is like, we'll screw you, John Murray.
Speaker 1: It was really funny because Chris Thurston was like, hey,
Speaker 1: where's this contest? I'm like, it's full, and he got
Speaker 1: all pissed off. And then I created another one. I
Speaker 1: sent it to you guys did on Thursday. He texted me,
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, I just try to enter the contest?
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 1: And I go, I see you the link On Tuesday
Speaker 1: the new one's already full. And he was like, you're
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me. I'm gonna throw a fit.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Chris, how did you miss both?
Speaker 1: And then and then guess who used the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Rams?
Speaker 2: And then I took a couple of dogs.
Speaker 3: Guess what.
Speaker 2: Guess who's out?
Speaker 3: Hey? Can I say something about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If it filled that fast, if it filled so fast
Speaker 3: that Chris couldn't even sign up, then you charged too little, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the problem is is I just feel like one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars is probably right for Vegas.
Speaker 2: I agree, you're one day standalone.
Speaker 1: Just Super Bowl Sunday props, Like, if I was there,
Speaker 1: I would pay one hundred bucks pick my props. I'd
Speaker 1: probably do five entries right, and do a couple whatever,
Speaker 1: mix them up the ones I wasn't sure about, and
Speaker 1: just have some fun stuff to cheer for for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Ray does such a good job with that contest, with
Speaker 3: the NFL Season Wins Contest, all rad is such a
Speaker 3: great job with all of them. I just feel like
Speaker 3: one hundred sounds a little too low to me. But
Speaker 3: I get I get what you're saying. Maybe it is
Speaker 3: the perfect.
Speaker 1: Wheelhouse hundred for a college football season one's Season Wins
Speaker 1: super Contest. I think it's one hundred dollars for one
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday. Plus the pot's going to be bigger because
Speaker 1: more people are gonna enter, and people like me are
Speaker 1: gonna get five entries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got ten.
Speaker 1: In the twenty five dollars one, and I might as
Speaker 1: well flush tw hundred and fifty dollars on the toilet.
Speaker 3: Ray, you know, Ray, Maybe you know sometimes I just
Speaker 3: shouldn't question Ray. Never mind, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm just Seattle Steam FTR and Xcess Jam. Can we
Speaker 2: do a pool a pole a pole.
Speaker 1: To see if anybody besides me wants to make the
Speaker 1: Super Contest Gold pay top three.
Speaker 2: My friend Barry won the Super Condess Gold this year.
Speaker 2: I just found out.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, graulate, but I have not got an opportunity to
Speaker 1: usually legal advice.
Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting idea, and I think the Super
Speaker 3: Contest Gold started as a winner take all and that
Speaker 3: was sort of like the whole angle of it. But
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean we can't change things. I mean we
Speaker 3: can talk about it. I don't think it would. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't make a change based on the results of a
Speaker 3: poll on Twitter, to be honest with you, that wouldn't
Speaker 3: be enough to make me think.
Speaker 2: We should change e mail the contestant.
Speaker 3: I think we should talk to some people and get
Speaker 3: some quality feedback.
Speaker 1: And I've been saying it for years that you guys
Speaker 1: need to pay.
Speaker 3: I would think, well, that's who I would That's actually
Speaker 3: who we would talk to. All jokes aside. When we
Speaker 3: were when Rey and myself were developing the College Contest,
Speaker 3: the Survivor Contest, we relied a lot on the feedback
Speaker 3: from our proxies because they have they do a good
Speaker 3: job of talking to the guests. They probably have a
Speaker 3: better or you know, finger on the pulse or whatever
Speaker 3: the phrases of what the guests want. That's how we
Speaker 3: landed on five hundred bucks for college. That's how that
Speaker 3: a lot of that came about. So I'd be much
Speaker 3: more curious to hear what they have to say versus
Speaker 3: doing a poll on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Be honest with you, Yeah, I agree, I h I
Speaker 1: think the College Contest is fine. I think the Super
Speaker 1: Contest is fine. I love the five K Survivor. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure me Ct and Josh will get back in
Speaker 1: that again next year. I will not get in the
Speaker 1: Super Connis Gold.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get eaten alive, like I would have
Speaker 1: to have such a great NFL season. I had such
Speaker 1: a great NFL season in my one. That's for a dime,
Speaker 1: but it's picked every game on the board.
Speaker 3: Have I done this? If I done this, whiny complaint
Speaker 3: yet for you, I'm I'm not gonna do Circus Survivor anymore.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: There's too many people. Yeah, there's too many people in it.
Speaker 3: And it's obvious to me that the ones that are
Speaker 3: winning are like these poker groups that probably have like
Speaker 3: hundreds of entries.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about that? I know we're
Speaker 2: running along, but I have some.
Speaker 3: I don't now I think. Let me just say, I
Speaker 3: think Circus Survivor is an awesome contest. I think it's
Speaker 3: incredibly fun. I the entry that I had with Jake
Speaker 3: Cornegae finished two points out of the money in circu millions.
Speaker 3: Gonna do Circum millions again. Not here to be on
Speaker 3: some high horse rant about it. I think both contests
Speaker 3: are great. But with all these groups pooling their resources
Speaker 3: and just having hundreds of entries, don't.
Speaker 2: You think it's weird? Okay, think about that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to throw away a thousand dollars and
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I don't want watch the ceremony.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Did you watch any of the ceremonies?
Speaker 3: I did not watch so where some of.
Speaker 2: The poker groups that own some of those.
Speaker 1: Websites got thanked and it's like, wait, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that poker guy owned that website that millions of people
Speaker 1: probably use, including myself, which is why I like to
Speaker 1: just fuck around with that website and not say anything,
Speaker 1: and I use my own spreadsheet. I'm just saying you
Speaker 1: don't think it's weird that I'd like to thank ex website.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, wait, that guy's a poker player
Speaker 1: who owns our website. They're tipping him, but now he's
Speaker 1: privy to all this data.
Speaker 3: I don't we don't. We don't know that. We don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say I know that. I'm just my big
Speaker 1: old brain up here. John Murray is like, that seems
Speaker 1: really weird.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that when I'm gonna continue. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna continue to these circum millions. I think it's a
Speaker 3: great contest. Like I said, two point went five and
Speaker 3: oh Week eighteen finished two points out of the money. There.
Speaker 3: You know, I cashed in that contest few years ago.
Speaker 3: I finished like twenty second or something. I like that contest.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep playing it. The survivor's gotten too big
Speaker 3: for a little old me. I can't compete with guys
Speaker 3: that have hundreds of entries or pieces of hundreds of entries.
Speaker 1: Okay, So back to the Supercowder's Gold. So I was
Speaker 1: in third place in this one, but I finished. You
Speaker 1: were me tied for twenty third with your seven other
Speaker 1: people you were in thirty school, No, and the one
Speaker 1: that we have to pick every single game that I've
Speaker 1: been in with my buddies forever, one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: one and one hundred and thirty one. On the season,
Speaker 1: I had two weeks where I went thirteen and two
Speaker 1: and I didn't even finish remotely close the winner hold
Speaker 1: on the Winner had was one hundred and sixty one
Speaker 1: and eleven.
Speaker 2: What the one hundred and sixty one and one eleven
Speaker 2: one eleven?
Speaker 1: They finished fifty games above five hundred in the NFL
Speaker 1: Good Board.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: You've got to have a season like that, and then
Speaker 1: by the way, you're going to narrow down the five
Speaker 1: that you like the most, which my games on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: You can't have any bad weeks. Like Jay and myself,
Speaker 3: we we had a good season, but we had one
Speaker 3: week where we went zho and five and I think
Speaker 3: we had at least one other week where we went
Speaker 3: one and four, and that just that. I mean, you
Speaker 3: take that one week we went oh and five, if
Speaker 3: we go two and three, that week we finish in
Speaker 3: the money. You just can't have a week like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I did.
Speaker 1: One of the one thousand dollars Splash one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars weeks. I went eight and four granted cost me
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks to enter, but I won thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy four dollars, So I won three seventy four
Speaker 1: for going eight.
Speaker 2: Like that, to me is a lot more palatable.
Speaker 1: Than like playing the track of all this stuff well,
Speaker 1: because it's all on one web page.
Speaker 3: Mom My mom always asks me that because she'll watch
Speaker 3: the show or like listen to the show while she's
Speaker 3: walking around the neighborhood or her treadmill, and she'll be like,
Speaker 3: how does Kelly keep track of all of her stuff? Mike,
Speaker 3: I don't think she does. Mom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should see my notes app.
Speaker 1: You should see my Google doctries, my Google sheets. But
Speaker 1: these are easy because it's on Splash.
Speaker 3: A final and then you goat does a a great job?
Speaker 3: They do a great job. I mean it all like,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just this week, I'm in a golf pool
Speaker 3: season long golf this week?
Speaker 2: Do you join mine?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 3: I should join?
Speaker 2: Sure? I shouldn't say mine, Sorr, I shouldn't say mine.
Speaker 2: It's Rick run good.
Speaker 3: I know Rick, Yeah, I know Rick Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: Like a four hundred thousand dollars overlay, so it's one
Speaker 1: point two five million guaranteed whether it fills or not.
Speaker 2: There's not even four thousand people in it.
Speaker 1: Out of five entry two hundred and fifty bucks season
Speaker 1: long golf one and done. So you gotta pick one
Speaker 1: guy each week and you can't use him again. There's
Speaker 1: only seventeen hours up to sign up.
Speaker 3: There's I'm I'm gonna call. I'm gonna call Jeoffrey Hill.
Speaker 3: He's probably at jeff is a is a yuppie, so
Speaker 3: he's probably at like a boat club or a yacht
Speaker 3: club or a country club. But I'm gonna call him
Speaker 3: after the show. Actually I have another meeting. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: call him after that meeting, and then I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: to get him to sign up and I'll do an
Speaker 3: entry with him. There you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brent and I are gonna do an entry over
Speaker 1: under two and a half weeks before we get in
Speaker 1: a fight.
Speaker 3: It'll be fine under under under.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, under under we're running really long.
Speaker 1: Let me see these last two questions I have not
Speaker 1: read yet, see if they're even worth it. Uh reload
Speaker 1: sports want to know how much liability is there.
Speaker 2: Bill's Broncos lands one.
Speaker 3: That's impossible.
Speaker 1: None, okay, Jason's still twelve on access. Any sharp action
Speaker 1: on who will win the Australian Open.
Speaker 3: Australian Open, I don't know. Let me see hold on.
Speaker 2: Is that Broncos landing one would be absolutely nuts?
Speaker 3: That's but how can an a fall game land one.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's there's It would be crazy if
Speaker 1: you could have land if you could have taken one
Speaker 1: and a half one pick them or Broncos minus one
Speaker 1: and you laid Broncos minus one and a half.
Speaker 2: You should stop betting. I'm gonna cheer with that game.
Speaker 3: You land one. There's not much yet on the Australian Open.
Speaker 3: We do, you know what we actually do write good
Speaker 3: business on these Tennis Grand Slams. Excuse me, but uh
Speaker 3: I'm talking on a match to match bass but so
Speaker 3: far not to report on that and the other question,
Speaker 3: silly sir. NFL games cannot land one. It is mathematically impossible,
Speaker 3: can't happen. It's never I don't want to call it
Speaker 3: ever happening.