1 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,719 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,719 --> 00:00:43,320 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragon napp 4 00:00:43,399 --> 00:00:45,920 But first I do want to encourage you. If you're 5 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:51,560 enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 6 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,399 Today's program is brought you in part by the financial 7 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:59,840 support of our listeners. You can support the show. Hi, 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,439 I'm mailing a donation to Adam Graham pielbox one five 9 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:10,519 nine one three. 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You're a 20 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,840 detective Sergeant you're assigned a homicide detail. A thirty nine 21 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,800 year old housewife disappeared suddenly, there's no explanation for it. 22 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Five days later, evidence of possible foul play is uncovered. 23 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Your job investigate. 24 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,159 Speaker 3: Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. For the 25 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:35,639 next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 26 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,240 you will travel step by step on the side of 27 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,919 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence. 28 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,439 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 29 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:48,000 the story of your police force. 30 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: In action. 31 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,199 Speaker 5: Was Wednesday, September fifteenth. That was hot in Los Angeles. 32 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,159 We were working a day watch out a homicide. My 33 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:01,159 partner's Ed Jacob's the bosses that Brown Chief of detectives. 34 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 6: My name is Friday. 35 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 5: I was on the way back from lunch and it 36 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:05,719 was twelve fifty six pm when I got to Room 37 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:07,599 forty two homicide. 38 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 6: Hi Joe waiting fight, Hi ed Al Here you got 39 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,759 something for us, m H. 40 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: Here's the report right here. 41 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 7: Guard her by the name of Abbot called in day 42 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:19,560 before yesterday Chester. Abbot said his wife disappeared from their 43 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,599 home out in the valley Thursday night. He says she 44 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,439 thinks she left him. Happens every day, Not this way, 45 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:26,159 it doesn't. Walsh and I went out to talk to 46 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:28,240 the man yesterday. A story doesn't make too much sense, 47 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:28,759 how I mean? 48 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: Now? 49 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:31,439 Speaker 7: None of his wife's clothes are missing, none of her luggage. 50 00:03:31,439 --> 00:03:33,800 She even left her pocketbook behind full of money. We 51 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:35,599 found out from the neighbors. The missing woman has a 52 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:37,639 seventeen year old boy by a former marriage. 53 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,599 Speaker 6: Does that mean anything? 54 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 7: He's an only child, mother dotes on the kids. She 55 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:41,919 didn't even say goodbye to him. 56 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: Well, how'd this? Chester? 57 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 7: Abboit impression pretty groutchy with Walsh and made no cooperation. 58 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: Wants to find his wife, doesn't he? I don't know. 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,159 I'm not sure. He's no help. I can tell you 60 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:50,520 that much. 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,759 Speaker 6: Could I see that report out? 62 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 63 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 6: Here you go, Thank you. Florence Trumble abbitt Age thirty nine. 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: Abbot's your second husband. Persman died a little after the 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,000 boy was born. 66 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,439 Speaker 5: Disappeared Thursday night from the home five forty six Plasco 67 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Road between sevente eight o'clock. 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 6: Well, when did Abbot call in to notify you? 69 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 7: Monday afternoon told us he thought his wife might have 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,759 been spending the weekend with her sister. 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: When he found out she wasn't, he called us. You 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,960 meet the boy when you were out there? Yeah, that's 73 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,439 another thing. 74 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 7: How do you mean a kid came riding up on 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,959 a bike when we were talking at one of the neighbors. 76 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:21,519 They tried to talk to him, but the old man 77 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,079 came out and hustled the boy into the house, and 78 00:04:23,079 --> 00:04:24,279 then he started chewing us out. 79 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 6: What's his trouble? 80 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,519 Speaker 7: Told us it was our job to find his wife, 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,399 not to go prying into his stepson's affairs. 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,319 Speaker 4: That's a new slat. 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,639 Speaker 6: Well, how about the woman's friends and relatives. They've been 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,240 checked out, you know. 85 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 7: Well she's on it now. I don't think he's had 86 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,959 much luck contacting him so far. I'll tell you the truth. 87 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:38,800 I don't like the looks of. 88 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: It, Missus Abbott have any other relatives here, I mean 89 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,879 besides his sister two lands? 90 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I got the list right over here. Sure, wish 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,800 we had a chance to talk to that boy. Noticed 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,680 anything else out of the way about mister abbit Owl? 93 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. 94 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:57,519 Speaker 7: There's that list, Joe, Oh, thank you. Abbot was upset 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,000 all right. I don't know though he didn't exact me. 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Strike me as reacting way a normal man reacts when 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,120 his wife's disappeared. 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 6: Well, how about a copy of this report? You got 99 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:04,680 one to spare? 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, just a minute now, missing person's spaghetti. 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: That's right, this is spaghetti speaking. 102 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 8: Was that? 103 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:22,399 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah? Sure about what? All right? Good? Four o'clock? Fine, 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,800 all right? Signed, goodbye? 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,639 Speaker 7: Well that was the boy I was telling you about, 106 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,720 mister arabbit stepson, what do you want? He wants to 107 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,959 talk to a sounded worried about his mother. He thinks 108 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,920 something's happened to her. 109 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 5: In police work, missing persons detail is not a department 110 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,079 separate in itself. It's organized is a part of homicide division. 111 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 When the possibility of homicide arises in the course of 112 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,279 handling a case, missing persons immediately turns the matter over 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,000 to homicide officers for investigation. When we got the call 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,399 from the Abbot boy, we automatically took over. According to 115 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:58,360 al Barghetti, the boy said he suspected his stepfather and 116 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,279 he didn't want him to know of any meeting between 117 00:06:00,319 --> 00:06:04,040 him and police officers. At three point fifteen, Ed and 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,959 I left the office and drove to the meeting place. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,319 Designated by the boy the Dairyland Fountain and Coffee Shop 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,399 near the corner of Fairfax in Hollywood Boulevard. We got 121 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,439 there at three point fifty pm. At eight minutes past five, 122 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,399 the Abbot boy still had not arrived. We waited another 123 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:20,319 fifteen minutes, and then we left and drove out to 124 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,839 the valley and pulled up in front of the main 125 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:23,040 gate to the Abbot. 126 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 6: Nursery on Belasco Road. The house itself was set. 127 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:28,759 Speaker 5: Well back on the property, which covered about five acres 128 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:31,560 of ground. The entire nursery was surrounded by a six 129 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,680 foot chain link fence, and it looked like every available 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,959 foot of ground inside was planted with some kind of 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,800 flower or shrub. Mister Abbot met us at the gate. 132 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,680 He had three full grown mastiffs with him. He held 133 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,360 him on a chain. 134 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 9: Yes, what do you want, blase officers you chesterrabbit, that's right, 135 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,480 what do you want? 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 6: Well, didn't get those dogs by if you'd asked some questions? 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,199 Speaker 9: Pretty bid you now if you come back tomorrow, it's important, Abbot. 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,879 We like talking. Now, all right, you have to past 139 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,240 time you down you two quiet? That's a quiet all right? Now, 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:01,720 what do you want? 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 6: Mind? 142 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: If we come inside soon. 143 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,759 Speaker 9: He's what, dog and mind are pretty vicious. We can 144 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:06,199 talk here at the gate, all right. 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,439 Speaker 5: We've been assigned to look into your wife's disappearance, Abbot. 146 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,879 That's my partner, Sarge Jacobs. 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 6: My name's Friday. 148 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:12,759 Speaker 9: Mm hmm. Find out anything about my wife? 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 10: Had nothing definite, no thought. Maybe you could help us 150 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,519 mine telling us exactly what happened to night she disappeared. 151 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:18,639 Speaker 9: What do you mean what happened? 152 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:20,079 Speaker 4: Well? When did you see her last? When did you 153 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,040 first noticed she was gone? 154 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 9: We had dinner at Thursday night, about seven o'clock. Then 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,199 I laid down for a nap. Florence went out on 156 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,120 the front port for some are I woke up a 157 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,120 little four eight o'clock, went outside to look for her. 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:29,800 She was gone. 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 6: No one saw her leave, mister Rabbitt. 160 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:33,519 Speaker 9: Not that I know of. Maybe one of our neighbors. 161 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,000 You can ask them. They seem to know everybody's business. 162 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,199 Speaker 6: How about your step son. Wasn't he on Thursday night? 163 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: Ruce? 164 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,279 Speaker 9: No, he went out to a show with some other kid. 165 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,399 Speaker 4: When'd you get back from the show? 166 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 9: You remember ten o'clock? I think, why where's the boy now? 167 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 6: Abbot? 168 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:46,399 Speaker 9: Who are you looking for my wife or stepson, both 169 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:48,279 of them. Where is he gone? I took him over 170 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,560 to my sister's in Nelhambur. He've been feeling bad and 171 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,600 his mother disappeared. Figure the chance to do him good? 172 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,160 And when did you take him over to your sister's 173 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,160 this afternoon? What's that got to do with It'd like 174 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,920 to talk to him. No, you can't. One allowed the 175 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,560 boy's to upset right now, and I can't allow it. 176 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,759 Speaker 6: Afraid you're gonna have to allow it. 177 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: Abbot. 178 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,079 Speaker 9: Listen, mister, you can get off this property right now 179 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:04,399 if you want to get FRESI with me. No cough, 180 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:06,519 you're giving me any fast. He's down there, honey, quiet. 181 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 6: Nobody's given you sass. 182 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,959 Speaker 5: We want to talk to your steps on that so 183 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,120 all he might be able to give us a lead 184 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,079 on the whereabouts of your wife. 185 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 9: Now, I say, you can't see the boy. You've been 186 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,240 looking for Flarge for a week and you haven't found 187 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:16,120 a thing. I guess somebody else will look for it. 188 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,480 It's my business anyway, nobody. 189 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: Else is our business. If anything happened to her, what 190 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:19,680 are you talking about? 191 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 6: You better get your coat, Abbot, like to talk to 192 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,639 you out of town. 193 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:23,399 Speaker 9: Come through that gate and I'll let these dogs go. 194 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: We hate to shoot him, mister. 195 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,959 Speaker 9: What do you find to prove anyhow? But I have 196 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,199 to go on tone for I'll tell. 197 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: You when we get there, I'll get your coat. Jester 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,480 Rabbit turned, made his way up the path and into 199 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,080 the house. A few minutes later he came out, closed 200 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,559 the gate behind him, and got into our car. On 201 00:08:39,639 --> 00:08:42,159 the way back downtown, he talked pleasantly about the weather, 202 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,039 the nursery business, and his dogs. When we got to 203 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,039 the office, we found out the reason for his sudden 204 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,039 change and temperament. His lawyer was waiting for us at 205 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:52,600 the door. We tried to interrogate Abbot, but the lawyer 206 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:54,919 objected to just about every question we asked. It was 207 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,799 hopeless and we knew it, and so did the lawyer. 208 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,559 We released Abbot, but not before we got the name 209 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,519 and address of his sister in al Hambra, where the step son, 210 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,200 Bruce was supposedly staying. After Abbot and his lawyer left, 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,960 ed and I signed out of the office and drove 212 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 to al Hambra to check on. 213 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: The boy or get you sure had this one a 214 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,919 real sleeper? Yeah? 215 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,879 Speaker 6: I like know how the step son missed that date 216 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:16,039 with us. This afternoon, the. 217 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: Boy called us from the house. Stepfather could over hurt him. 218 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: That's possible. Sister's house ought to be along this block. 219 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,399 Shudn't Let's see fourteen oh eight I was six? 220 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there at is great cottage fourteen oh two. 221 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: Okay, let's pull up here, all. 222 00:09:29,919 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: Right, nice looking place, well, captain. 223 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,759 Speaker 4: Nice neighborhood. Wonder how the lot prices run out here? 224 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,039 Speaker 6: I'll get the bell. 225 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,879 Speaker 4: Yes, what is it police officers, ma'am you miss Abbot, Yes, 226 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:54,559 Helen Abbot. 227 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,159 Speaker 5: Why well, we talked to your brother earlier today, Miss Abbot. 228 00:09:57,279 --> 00:09:59,159 He said he brought his step son Bruce over here 229 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,440 to stay a while, see him if we could Bruce. 230 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:03,399 Speaker 11: Well, yes, he was here until about an hour and 231 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,000 a half ago. 232 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: I went to the store, and when I came back 233 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,399 he was gone. Any idea where we can find him 234 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:07,759 a habit? 235 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 11: Well, I tell U phone my brother Chester just before 236 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,679 you came to the door. 237 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,399 Speaker 5: Bruce isn't there? 238 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: Yes, master mind, if we came and looked around, the 239 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,320 sabbath won't take long. Well, why I told you Bruce 240 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:18,240 isn't here. It's the truth. 241 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 11: There's no reason to lie about it is there. 242 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: Well, no, ma'am, it's not that. 243 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 9: Well then what is it? 244 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 11: No reason for me to lie to you? 245 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 5: How about your brother? We went in and looked the 246 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,080 house over from one end to the other. It wasn't 247 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,840 a trace of the boy. We drove back to the 248 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Abbot nursery and satisfied ourselves the boy wasn't there. Meantime, 249 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:38,120 the home of Chester Rabbit's sister in al Hamber was 250 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:41,720 kept under constant surveillance. No one came or went. The 251 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:43,759 next morning, when Ed and I checked in for workers 252 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,639 usual at eight a m. We met with Sergeant al Barghetti. 253 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 7: Well, I had have an idea there might be something wrong. 254 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:50,360 What makes you so positive. 255 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,919 Speaker 10: Though I just did it Holm, We're not positive. It's 256 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:53,480 the whole setup, I guess, smelt Bed. 257 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,159 Speaker 4: How do you mean, for instance. 258 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 5: Well, Abbit's lawyer for one thing. If a man's innocent, 259 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,799 he doesn't have his lawyer sit with him and tell 260 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,919 him not to answer any question. 261 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:00,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 6: Number two, the kid's phone call. He didn't show up 263 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,039 for that date you figured. 264 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,919 Speaker 7: I don't know, could be doesn't get along with his stepfather. 265 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,759 Happens you know, maybe he's trying to get back at 266 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:09,600 him for something or other. 267 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that could be. Why is Abbot hiding him out? Then? 268 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,399 Speaker 4: Pretty sure he's hiding him out. Well, the thing's been 269 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:15,039 going an other way. 270 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 7: To take it, Missus Abbot walked away from her home 271 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:20,720 last Thursday night. Nobody saw her. She took nothing with her, 272 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:22,480 No luggage, no clothes, no money. 273 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: That's it. You check with her family. 274 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,759 Speaker 10: Doctor yesterday told us missus Abbott was in perfect health. 275 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:29,120 Checked her bank statements, double checked the name for Wanders 276 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:31,799 file repeaters found missing persons, couldn't find it in neither one. 277 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: Her relatives too, How you talk to that some of them? 278 00:11:34,159 --> 00:11:36,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, got a few more to check out this morning. 279 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:39,879 Speaker 7: One thing's certain. No clothes, no money, no luggage. She 280 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:42,679 couldn't have gone very far. He checked all the angles. 281 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,159 Speaker 5: Out, the sheriff's office, the jails, the hospitals. Sent out 282 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:47,720 a teletype and an APB. She's been gone almost a week. 283 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,519 Nobody's seen her. Now, how's that add up to you? 284 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,440 I got an idea. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong. Eight 285 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,039 forty five am ed and I left the office and 286 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,120 continued making the rounds of the missing woman friends and relatives. 287 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,039 We checked at the Western National bank, where missus Abbot 288 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,759 maintained another account. Her saving statement showed a total balance 289 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:10,200 of thirty one thousand, five hundred and sixty four dollars 290 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,279 and seventeen cents. Her checking account had a balance of 291 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:15,759 eight hundred and forty two dollars and seventy one cents. 292 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,639 At the Farmer's mutual we found the record of an 293 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:21,759 insurance policy issued to Florence Trumbull Abbot. There was a 294 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:24,799 twenty pay life policy covering the insured in the amount 295 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:28,200 of thirty thousand dollars. The beneficiary was listed as the 296 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:32,039 insured son, Bruce Trumbull Abbot, if living upon receipt of 297 00:12:32,039 --> 00:12:35,840 such due proof, if not, the insured's husband, Chester j Abbot. 298 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,720 By the time we finished checking the missing woman's financial status, 299 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,879 we figured we had a fair suspect in the husband, 300 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,159 Chester Abbot. From casual reports, we knew he was a 301 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:47,960 frugal man, almost to the point of obsession. If he 302 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,559 was greedy as well, if he wanted or needed money 303 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,279 badly enough to kill, then he had all the motives 304 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:57,279 necessary to murder his wife, maybe his stepson too. Six 305 00:12:57,399 --> 00:13:00,679 forty p m ed Nidrove back to the office. 306 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,919 Speaker 4: Go ahead, A long day out of minage. 307 00:13:05,759 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 6: Wonder fowl still around? Hey, Bargetti. 308 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Helt Yeah, here, that's you Friday. 309 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 310 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,159 Speaker 4: How'd you do get anything? 311 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 7: A few things? Pretty predock good. I got some more 312 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,879 for you. Just walked in here ten minutes ago. Bruce 313 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,240 savd he's waiting in the next room. 314 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: We went into the next room and met the Abbot boy. 315 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:28,399 He was small for a seventeen year old, dark haired, thin, 316 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 a little on the sickly side. He seemed nervous and upset. 317 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,279 He told us that he wasn't able to keep the 318 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,120 date he made with us on the phone because his 319 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:38,320 stepfather did apparently overhear the conversation and drove the boy 320 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 immediately to his sister's place in al Hamburg. We asked 321 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,919 the boy what made him so sure that his stepfather 322 00:13:44,039 --> 00:13:45,879 was responsible for his mother's disappearance. 323 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,759 Speaker 11: Well, for one thing, all three of us usually go 324 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,200 to the early show on Thursday night, Chester, Mom and me, 325 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,480 but last Thursday we didn't go. 326 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:52,279 Speaker 4: Why was that? Son? 327 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 11: Chester said he wasn't feeling too good and he wanted 328 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:56,120 Mom to stay home and take care of him, and 329 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,639 he told me to go on ahead of the show, 330 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,200 So I did. 331 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 6: For what times you get home, Bruce. 332 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 11: About a quarter to ten ten o'clock. 333 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:03,519 Speaker 6: Did you know anything unusually when he got home? 334 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 11: Some not so much. No, Mom wasn't there. I didn't 335 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,320 think much about it. Then I thought maybe she was 336 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,240 over to one of the neighbors. 337 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,759 Speaker 4: You ask your stepfather where she was? 338 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 11: Uh huh? He said he didn't know. He said he 339 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:14,080 thought she was over at one of the neighbors too. 340 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: What was your stepfather doing when he got home? 341 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 11: Just sitting in the living room reading the paper. I 342 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:20,720 usually don't talk to him too much. I just asked 343 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,200 him where Mom was, and he told me, and then 344 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,639 I went back to my room and went to bed. 345 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: He noticed anything unusual about the way he acted, anything 346 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,399 different about him at all? 347 00:14:27,799 --> 00:14:30,159 Speaker 11: Well, I'm not too sure. He did seem a little nervous, 348 00:14:30,159 --> 00:14:31,399 though jumpy. 349 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,679 Speaker 6: More than usual. I think anything else. 350 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 11: Well, when I came through the front yard, I noticed 351 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 that dogs had mud all over their paws. Read Heimi 352 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,159 and George, all three of them. They must have been 353 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:41,200 out in the nursery plots. 354 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: Anything unusual about that. 355 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,679 Speaker 11: In a way? Yeah, you see, the dogs don't go 356 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,679 out in the plots unless Chester's with him. He doesn't 357 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:50,279 want him to trample the seedlings. I noticed Chester had 358 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,519 mud on his shoes that night too. 359 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:53,519 Speaker 10: When you figure your stepfather was out digging somewhere in 360 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,039 the nursery plots that night. 361 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:58,159 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right, digging somewhere he must have been. You 362 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,120 can't figure out why though what he means. My stepfather 363 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:04,919 never works at night. 364 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:16,679 Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police 365 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:17,360 force and action. 366 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 5: Thursday September sixteenth, seven oh five pm, we continued talking 367 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,080 to the missing woman's seventeen year old son, Bruce Abbot. 368 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,480 As the interview went on, it became more and more 369 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:37,639 obvious that the boy and his stepfather, Chester Abbot didn't get. 370 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 6: Along at all. 371 00:15:38,799 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: Apparently the boy was jealous of him, and he was 372 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:44,840 jealous of the boy. Besides his prejudice, Bruce also contradicted 373 00:15:44,919 --> 00:15:48,399 himself during the course of the Questioning seven fifteen pm, 374 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,399 the interview went on. 375 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,679 Speaker 10: I understand that, all right, son, But you say you 376 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:53,320 can't think of any reason why your father would be 377 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,240 out working the nursery plots that time of night. 378 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 11: No, sir, I can't. I don't know how I'd get 379 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 any work done. None of the plots are even light 380 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:00,440 at only the greenhouse. 381 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: As well as possibly could have gotten that muddy and 382 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,799 his shoes working in one of the greenhouses. 383 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 11: No, sure, I don't see how all the peasant the 384 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,320 greenhouses are graveled, so my job to see they're kept gravel. 385 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:11,440 I know they weren't Mouddy because I fixed him the 386 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:12,000 day before. 387 00:16:13,159 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 6: Well what do you think it means, Bruce? 388 00:16:14,799 --> 00:16:16,799 Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't want to think about it. 389 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,799 I just know he's done something. He's done something to. 390 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: Her after your father, that is, your stepfather. 391 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 10: Give me any reason for keeping you away from the 392 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,679 police officers he came to your house? 393 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,279 Speaker 4: I mean the first two officers we showed up. 394 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:28,519 Speaker 11: No, he said people were getting nosy, that's all. 395 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,039 Speaker 4: He said. 396 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,399 Speaker 11: It might be better for me over at my aunt 397 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,039 Helen's place. 398 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: Do you think your aunt Helen might know where your 399 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,360 mother is? 400 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,519 Speaker 11: I don't think so. We hardly ever see Aunt Helen. 401 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,799 We don't know her well at all. 402 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,279 Speaker 6: Well, do you know if your mother and stepfather argued 403 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:40,879 very much? Son? 404 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 11: I mean big arguments sometimes, yeah, mostly about me. What 405 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,799 do you mean Chester's pretty tight? You know, doesn't like 406 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:49,960 to spend money at all. He and Mom used to 407 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:51,559 argue about whether I ought to get paid for the 408 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:53,919 work I did around the nursery. Chester didn't want to 409 00:16:53,919 --> 00:16:56,480 pay me. That's so yeah. When I started working, he 410 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:58,759 promised he'd pay me. I was saving up to buy 411 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:01,159 a thirty one model A. After a couple of weeks, 412 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,799 when he didn't pay me, I asked him about it. 413 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:04,400 He told me I ought to be glad to work 414 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,200 for him for nothing. 415 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,799 Speaker 4: And your mother argued with him about that. 416 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 11: Sure, she got good and mad too. She should have 417 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,160 gotten mad. It was her money that bought the nursery. 418 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: Anyway, how'd you happen to get away from your aunt's place? 419 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 11: Bruce wasn't too hard. Helen had some shopping to do, 420 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,680 and she left me alone. She locked the door to 421 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:20,160 my room. Even the screen over the window was nailed down, 422 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,079 but I kicked it out and got away. I stayed 423 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,319 at a friend's house last night. 424 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 6: You thought much about where you're going to stay to night? 425 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 11: Son, Well, I don't know. Sergeant Burghetti, I was talking 426 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,000 to him. He asked me if I wanted to go 427 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:32,559 out and have dinner and then stay at his house 428 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:33,720 to night, And I don't know. 429 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:34,839 Speaker 6: It sounds like a good idea. 430 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,279 Speaker 11: To me, I don't know sure. Nice of him to 431 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:37,599 ask me. 432 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 10: I think it'd be a lot better for you, son. 433 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Why don't you check in next offic see if Bargetti's 434 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:41,759 ready to leave. 435 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:49,799 Speaker 12: Huh yeah, okay, Sergeant, thanks Joe, what do you think? 436 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Harrd to say he might be lying. Before we signed 437 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,440 out of the office. 438 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: That night, we met with Captain Warman and outlined a 439 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,680 plan to bring in the husband of the missing woman 440 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,119 for questioning alone. We figured it had served two purposes, 441 00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:08,319 clarify the boy's position in the case and determine, one 442 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:11,440 way or another if the stepfather was withholding information about 443 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,440 the disappearance of missus Abbot. The big problem was to 444 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,160 bring in Chester Rabbit for interrogation without the knowledge of 445 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,200 his lawyer. As we'd found out more than once it 446 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,119 was impossible to get anything out of Abbot with his 447 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,839 lawyer present. We set up a plan to call at 448 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:27,279 the Abbot home early in the morning, get the suspect 449 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:29,440 out of bed, and bring him in before his lawyer 450 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,319 could be notified. At three point thirty the following morning, 451 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,079 Ed and I met at the office and started for 452 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,440 the Abbot place. We brought along a couple of pounds 453 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,400 of fresh horse meat to keep the dogs quiet if 454 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,240 they raised a fuss. At ten minutes past four am, 455 00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:43,079 we parked our car a few hundred feet down the 456 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,039 road from the Abbot Nursery and made our way toward 457 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:45,440 the gate. 458 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: I reached in and tried the latch. The dog started. 459 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 10: Out, how about it, joll hope, No, it's padlocks. 460 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,559 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to climb the fence. Task some of 461 00:18:54,559 --> 00:19:02,319 that moat over them. When okay, there, that does it? 462 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 6: All right, let's climb the fence. 463 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 4: Keep an eye on the hounds. Looks like to take 464 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,640 a leg off or. 465 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 6: Take it easy? 466 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,799 Speaker 4: Ed? All right, watch. 467 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: It comes out of the dog and get somewhere of that. 468 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 4: Moat right there. You're right, boy, go get it. 469 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 11: Go on? 470 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 6: All right, that's fine. Come on, let's hurry. 471 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, have a little chalk when's alongside of the house. 472 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:28,920 Fights just went on? 473 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 6: Come on? 474 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: Who who's there? 475 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 8: Who'sh it? 476 00:19:35,599 --> 00:19:36,559 Speaker 4: I'll take the dogs on. 477 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:38,599 Speaker 6: You police officers, Abbot, Friday and Jacobs. 478 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 9: What kind of business is? What are you doing out 479 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,799 here this time of night? 480 00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: You're under arrest, mister rabbit. 481 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:46,759 Speaker 9: What are you talking about? 482 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:48,039 Speaker 4: I think you heard me. You're under arrest. 483 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,319 Speaker 9: What kind of crazy thing is this? 484 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:51,039 Speaker 4: You're gonna pay for this? I'll have your job. 485 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 6: How do you want to get your coat? 486 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:53,599 Speaker 9: Your cops are asking for a pack of trouble. You 487 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,039 know that I get your coat. I'd like to know 488 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:56,960 what you think you're doing. Where's my steps on? 489 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:57,319 Speaker 4: Anyway? 490 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,079 Speaker 9: What have you done with him? 491 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,319 Speaker 6: I got a better one for you, mister. You done 492 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:03,400 with your wife? 493 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 5: Four am ed and I drove the suspect chester Abbit 494 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:10,039 back downtown to the office. 495 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 6: He was quiet and sullen. We headed down the hall 496 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:13,279 for the squad room. 497 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 4: Right still burning in the office. 498 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, probably by Getty's standing by all right, Abbitt in there. 499 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,319 Speaker 4: You are going to pay for these. 500 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 9: You can take my word on that head. 501 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,799 Speaker 6: You want to take him in, the officer and stay 502 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:23,720 with him. I'll check with al. 503 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:32,319 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Joe, you bring him in. 504 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's next door. Eds with him. 505 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:35,799 Speaker 4: It's tough for somebody must have seen you. 506 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. 507 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,839 Speaker 4: I must have. Why what do you mean Abbot's lawyer? 508 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,000 He's sitting in the next room. 509 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,319 Speaker 6: How the lawyer had been notified? We couldn't be sure. 510 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,839 Speaker 5: Again, we tried to question Abbot and again on the 511 00:20:47,839 --> 00:20:50,359 advice of his attorney. He refused to answer frantically every 512 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,359 question we put to him. We released him that day. 513 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,680 Captain Mormon assigned two men to stake out on the 514 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:57,000 nursery and report on all. 515 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 6: Of Chester Abbit's movements. 516 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: A little after sevent p just after ninth fall, we 517 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,680 tried again to bring the suspect in for questioning without 518 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,680 his lawyer's knowledge. 519 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:05,519 Speaker 6: It didn't work. 520 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:08,079 Speaker 5: The men assigned to stake out on the Abbot place 521 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,119 reported definitely that someone was tipping off the attorney. Whenever 522 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,480 unknown visitors showed up at the nursery and drove off 523 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:16,000 together with mister Abbot, there was nothing we could do 524 00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:18,559 about it. The following morning, al Barghetti came up with 525 00:21:18,599 --> 00:21:18,920 a lead. 526 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:20,599 Speaker 7: Had a long talk with the boy last night. I 527 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:22,240 think he came up with a pretty fair lead. How's 528 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,519 that the old man's responsible. We know there's only one 529 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:27,000 way we'll get a conviction. Yeah, find the body and 530 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,880 enough evidence to tie him in. Where do we start looking? 531 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,480 In a new rose bed. It's next to one of 532 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,319 the greenhouses in Abbot's nursery. Boy tell you this, Yeah, 533 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,200 seems to make sense. We know all man Abbot's crazy 534 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,119 about saving a dollar. We found that out from the 535 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,279 neighbors and the relatives on the nursery trade, especially in 536 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:44,759 the limited area Abbot has to work in. You cultivate 537 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:46,720 every foot of ground you have, you plan every foot 538 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,559 of soil with something. 539 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,039 Speaker 6: Well yeah, what's the point. 540 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,319 Speaker 7: Well, Rabbit's not the type to waste anything. He wouldn't 541 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,279 let ground lie fallow when he could plan something that 542 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,039 might bring in a few dollars next spring. Bruce tells 543 00:21:56,079 --> 00:21:58,160 me his stepfather has every inch of the property planet 544 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,559 was something everything except a six i ate plot of 545 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:01,599 ground on that rose garden. 546 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,039 Speaker 6: Well, what did the boys say? A plot been vacant 547 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:04,400 for a long? 548 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 11: Why? 549 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 7: He says, his stepfather got al ready for planning a 550 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,440 week and a half ago. It's still vacant. Be worth 551 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,160 checking out. How do we do it? We can order 552 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,759 up a crew from the crime lab. They can take 553 00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:14,039 probings to the plot all around it. They ought to 554 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:15,640 be able to tell us how deep the ground's been 555 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,400 worked over lately. 556 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,079 Speaker 6: Okay, what do you figure tonight? 557 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:20,279 Speaker 4: I think so? Yeah, maybe eleven twelve o'clock. 558 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: What about old man Abbit? You think he's gonna sit 559 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:22,839 still for. 560 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: The hunch pays off. He's gonna sit still a long time. 561 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,319 Speaker 5: It was ten minutes past eleven that night when we 562 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,599 got to the Abbot nursery, Lee Jones and the crime 563 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,079 lab crew Al Barghetti, Ed and two other men from Homicide. 564 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:37,759 Speaker 6: The men on. 565 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 5: Steakhout told us Chester Abbot, along with his attorney, had 566 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,240 left the house a half hour before. 567 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,759 Speaker 6: In his car, a dark blue coop. They hadn't returned. 568 00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:47,839 Speaker 5: Ed brought along another supply of fresh horse meat for 569 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,000 the dog, so we didn't have any trouble their We 570 00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,599 located the vacant plot of ground in the rosebed next 571 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:55,160 to one of the greenhouses, as Bruce Abbott had described 572 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,000 it to Barghetti. The crime lab crew started probing the ground, 573 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:02,039 obviously had been working over recently, into some depth. 574 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 6: They started digging. 575 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 4: Anderson, get that light over here with you. Thanks, Chelsea. Anything, No, 576 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:14,640 let's keep digging. 577 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,839 Speaker 11: Try it over here. 578 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, this is it. 579 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,559 Speaker 5: He wasn't taking any chances down a good four or 580 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:25,680 five feet now, wuldn't you say? 581 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least that Anderson more light. 582 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: Huh, All right, let's go at it. 583 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 13: Wait a minute, yeah, woman, shoe here, Yeah, come on, 584 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:46,319 just a matter. 585 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:53,519 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. Shoulders there, it's a body. I look 586 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,160 paid off al the boy had it figured. 587 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, too bad. He was right. 588 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,319 Speaker 5: Ed, and I went back to our car and notified 589 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:06,440 communications to broadcast a want for murder on Chester Rabbit. 590 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,759 Speaker 6: His description, together with the description of. 591 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: His car and license number, was rebroadcast every fifteen minutes. 592 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,960 The attorney was contacted and he stated that mister Abbot 593 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,640 had dropped him off at his home more than an 594 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,200 hour before, he knew nothing of his whereabouts. Ed and 595 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,200 I went back to check the Abbot home and found 596 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,279 the front door unlocked. 597 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 6: We went inside and looked around. 598 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: In one bedroom, we found clothes scattered over the bed 599 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,559 and on the floor. There was only one old soup 600 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,279 left in one closet. On the table next to the bed, 601 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,240 we found an airline's timetable. We got to the phone 602 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:40,000 and notified communications to alert all special details at railroad stations, 603 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960 bus terminals and airports, and then to get out an APB. 604 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,200 After that we checked with the airlines. One of them 605 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,720 told us a man answering Abbot's description of book passages 606 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:51,200 to Mexico City that night under the name of Charles 607 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,039 Frasier the plane was scheduled to leave at one fifty 608 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:57,559 two am at the Burbank Airport. We called the detail 609 00:24:57,599 --> 00:24:59,799 at the airport and alerted them. Then we drove over 610 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,039 to the field to follow through on it. It was 611 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:03,880 one thirty two am when Ed and I took up 612 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,279 our positions just inside Gate three, where passengers were boarding 613 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,400 flight seventy two for Mexico City. There was no sign 614 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,480 of the suspect, either on the plane or in the 615 00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:14,200 waiting room. 616 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: I think you, sir, I don't know. 617 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 8: Walk your bag over here. 618 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,599 Speaker 10: Where Sparghetti over there by the cocktail, I say him. 619 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, what time he got? Now? 620 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,039 Speaker 4: One? 621 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,319 Speaker 6: Eight planes do to take off another four minutes? Isn't it. 622 00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: Any sign him? Now? 623 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 11: No? 624 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 7: Nothing, just made the rounds check with Stevens and Cummings. 625 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,599 If he got and he came in somebody's suitcase couldn't 626 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:39,559 have possibly gotten through without one of us seeing. 627 00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 6: It, Well, well he hasn't got much more time. Maybe 628 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,039 it's a dead end. 629 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,759 Speaker 4: Huh, don't see how he could have gotten the whis 630 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:47,039 do you over there? No? No? By the ticket count 631 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:47,880 of there, assume. 632 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 6: Yeah that's him. Come on, huh right, just a minute, abbot. 633 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 9: I haven't got time now, I missed my plane. Do 634 00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:57,960 you have anything more to say to me? If you wait, like, 635 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,440 get back? It's right, not of it and take it 636 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:00,599 up my lawyer. I'm in a hurry. 637 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 5: We find your wife's body. I was that from the 638 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,119 rose bed next to the greenhouse. 639 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,759 Speaker 4: I don't know what you mean. You must be mistaken. 640 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,039 No mistake, hands behind your back. What's it's all about? 641 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 9: I haven't done anything? 642 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,319 Speaker 6: All right, let's go. 643 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 9: No, just a minute. You've got it wrong. I don't 644 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,200 know anything about it. 645 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 6: We think you do? 646 00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:17,519 Speaker 9: Now, come on, wasn't my fault. I didn't know what 647 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,039 I was doing. I pleaded in sanity. She drove me 648 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:21,359 to it. We were allaing about the boy and you 649 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,599 slapped me. I didn't mean to do it. 650 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:23,519 Speaker 4: All right, let's go, Abbitt. 651 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 9: Can you wait just. 652 00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: Two minutes more? 653 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:29,799 Speaker 6: What four? 654 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:34,759 Speaker 9: I cleaned one from Mexico City? Funny, isn't it? 655 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,279 Speaker 4: What's that? 656 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:39,839 Speaker 9: I was so close, just missed it. I'd buy more 657 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,960 than one minute. No, you're wrong about that, Abbot, just 658 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:44,240 one minute, that's all. 659 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,799 Speaker 6: You missed it before you ever bought your ticket. How 660 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:50,119 do you figure when you first decided to kill your wife? 661 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:50,839 Come on. 662 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:01,279 Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names 663 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,000 were changed to protect the innocent. 664 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,759 Speaker 3: On December nineteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 665 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,720 eighty nine, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 666 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:20,920 In a moment the results of that trial, Chester Vernon 667 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,759 Abbott was tried and convicted of murder in the first degree. 668 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,559 The jury failed to recommend clemency. Abbot was executed in 669 00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:39,279 the lethal gas chamber at the State Penitentiary San Quentin, California. 670 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:44,519 You have just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases 671 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,079 from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of 672 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department 673 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:56,200 Technical advisors Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynne, and Sergeant 674 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,000 Vance Bracer. Heard tonight were Barney Phillips and herbella script 675 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:05,400 by Jim Mosic, music by Walter Schumann, Hell Gifney speaking. 676 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 6: Now, It's Counterspy on NBC. 677 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, if this episode sounds familiar, you've been 678 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:32,680 paying incredible attention because this is pretty close to a 679 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,759 complete reenactment of the script for the episode commonly known 680 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,480 among fans as Eric Kelby. It is the second nineteen 681 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:51,200 forty nine Dragonet episode to be restaged within about a 682 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:56,480 four month period. Well, the Big overtime made some important 683 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:02,039 changes from the nineteen forty nine version. This story is 684 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:07,559 pretty much straight up in terms of every single plot point, 685 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880 the tone, everything, as far as I can tell, is 686 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,759 the same. Other than the names of the people involved. 687 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,200 I'd be interested to know the reason for the changing names. 688 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,599 It's a bit of an odd decision. Script for uses 689 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,319 are certainly quite common, but just tweaking names when you're 690 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:33,000 on the same series and you're redoing a script from 691 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,160 two years ago or two and a half years ago, 692 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,400 seems like an odd choice. All right, Well, listener comments 693 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,960 and feedback now, and we have some comments regarding the 694 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,039 big phone call, and we start on Patreon with Jeff, 695 00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,319 who writes, why is there no attorney with the alleged 696 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:58,960 thief during this rather hardcore interrogation? Because this episode predates 697 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Miranda Rights, I think that's part of it. Now, this 698 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:11,519 episode illustrates that you could have a lawyer present, but 699 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480 you needed to plan for it. So in this case, 700 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,880 I think it's fair to say that the big phone 701 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,799 call and arrest wasn't expected. And he also didn't have 702 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,039 anybody watching out or any plan that he would ever 703 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,519 be caught, who would clue in a lawyer. As we 704 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,200 heard in this episode, it could still be quite a 705 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:37,599 challenge for the police, even if they don't have to 706 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:44,119 notify people of their constitutional rights and make sure a 707 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:50,720 lawyer can be present during questioning. If a suspect is prepared, 708 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,680 they can have a lawyer ready to go. Dawn ask, 709 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:58,519 do you have to call dial nine to call outside? 710 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,720 And and this is from Spotify, A random Spotify user replied, 711 00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,880 I'll listen to the episode again. I'm not sure that 712 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:14,160 he's said. Well, that was definitely a point, and I yeah, 713 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440 I don't know the reason for it. If it was, 714 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,759 you know, just kind of to increase the pressure by 715 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,119 continually having that reminder. But we did learn that lesson now. 716 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,359 I have never had, and hopefully never will have in 717 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,960 occasion to have to make a call from police headquarters 718 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,240 in Los Angeles. If I do, I expect I will 719 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:44,480 have to dial nine to get an outside line. And 720 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:49,240 if I don't, what are we even doing here over 721 00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,799 on YouTube? I want to thank James for hitting the 722 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,720 hot button on the episode The Big Honeymoon. Truly appreciate 723 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:02,759 that and that's another way to help the YouTube channel 724 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,640 episodes get out there, and Cuthbert writes, Dragnet never gets old, 725 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,440 indeed it doesn't. Well, now it's time to thank our 726 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,440 Patreon supporter of the day, and I want to go 727 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,599 ahead and think I want to thank Peter, Patreon supporter 728 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:25,519 since April twenty twenty, currently supporting the podcast at the 729 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,400 Shawmus level of four dollars or more per month. Thanks 730 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,640 so much for your support. That'll do it for today. 731 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:36,000 If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your 732 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:40,519 favorite podcast software and be sure to rate and review 733 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,960 the podcast wherever you download it from. We'll be back 734 00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,519 next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet. But join us 735 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,960 back here tomorrow for yours truly. Johnny dollar ware. 736 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 8: Ah, what's the big problem? 737 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 14: A little matter of a liquor star holder. Well, I'm 738 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,519 afraid this one wasn't so little. Then tell me on, 739 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,119 Yes you do, Johnny. For some reason or another, these 740 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,200 places that sell bottle goods are a pretty frequent target 741 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,279 for stick ups here in Los Angeles. 742 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,039 Speaker 8: There have been quite a few of them over the years. 743 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,079 Speaker 14: I'm surprised you insure them, and needless to say, premiums 744 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,880 are pretty high, and at least as far as our 745 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,799 company is concerned, the policies are somewhat limited. That is, 746 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,119 in so far as maximum allowable coverage is concerned, makes sense. 747 00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,920 And the whole we've been pretty lucky. But that I mean, 748 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,599 we've had to pay off relatively few claims. But now 749 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,960 in the case of Willie Layman, whose lam his stories 750 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,200 are in West Los Angeles at one out ninety two 751 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680 to one Santa Monica Boulevard, and that's only about a 752 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,039 mile from where I'm staying. The old man opened up 753 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,720 his place late in nineteen fifty one. Huh yes, sixty one, 754 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,160 very nineteen fifty two. He had his first hold of it. 755 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:50,359 The bandit's got away with something over nine hundred dollars, 756 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,680 so he bought some insurance from us. 757 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 11: We'll go on. 758 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,839 Speaker 8: Since then there have been seven more attempted stick ups 759 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,480 there a total of eight in as many years. And 760 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,839 your company must be getting of a tie of pan off. No, 761 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:06,119 because after the second time he know how to use it. 762 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,319 He certainly did. 763 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,079 Speaker 14: He had a lot of metals from some germanis that 764 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,239 he was in during the last war. Anyhow, he suffered 765 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,639 no more losses, that is until last night. Ah, how 766 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,280 much good money? 767 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:19,079 Speaker 4: What else? 768 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 14: Something like over four hundred dollars out of the cash 769 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,880 register as nearly as the police can figure it from 770 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,559 the register. 771 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 8: Slip or couldn't Layman tell you how much? No, because 772 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,599 you see Johnny, he also lost his life. 773 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. 774 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Sends your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot ne, 775 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,760 follow us on Twitter at Radio detactoos, and check us 776 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,360 out on Instagram, Instagram dot com, slash Great Detectives from 777 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:52,199 Boise Altohol. This is your host, Adam Graham. Sign and off.