Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the Weird Weird.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Our Layer. Yes, that was officially the intro.
Speaker 1: This is a layer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the layer where we you know, hang out.
Speaker 1: Like the crust layer and the Magma Layer and the
Speaker 1: like the superhero layer. Oh okay, the super villain layer.
Speaker 1: I mean that's cool to you. Okay, yeah, that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine our layer. Okay, whatever, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: spelling it different.
Speaker 2: But this is a topic that we've been wanting to
Speaker 2: talk about for a really long time. I think, at
Speaker 2: least let me rephrase that, because that.
Speaker 1: Was actually a bald faced lie. Whoa dude.
Speaker 2: It's a topic I've been thinking about for weeks.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've been thinking about it for a longer time
Speaker 1: than weeks. Really. Just yes, cymatics, I spoiled it, damn it.
Speaker 2: Well we're gonna talk about cimatics and this is something
Speaker 2: that I personally have been really into lately. And obviously
Speaker 2: we were what episode was it we were just doing
Speaker 2: when we were like, we should talk cymatics two and
Speaker 2: I know, but what was the topic? I can't remember
Speaker 2: what if it was?
Speaker 1: What if? Yeah? But I mean we've mentioned it before.
Speaker 1: We've talked about maybe like a long time ago for sure.
Speaker 2: Episode ten, we we and also I think one of
Speaker 2: the spirit science we did was it like frequency we
Speaker 2: did and we talked a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and we had a brain blast and Nick
Speaker 2: actually locked eyes with me and he shouted eureka, and
Speaker 2: he said, I have an idea. And that's all on
Speaker 2: episode two and nine you.
Speaker 1: Can get it's not that didn't happen. Oh that's how
Speaker 1: I remember it. Again, dude, that's how I remember it.
Speaker 1: But it's not that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, I've been watching Egghead,
Speaker 2: so your brain has scrambled like a yeah, eureka, even
Speaker 2: though he never says that, Yeah, it's the archetype. So
Speaker 2: we've been wanting to talk about cimatics. It's a very
Speaker 2: fascinating topic. And yeah, so like for.
Speaker 1: Those who don't know what cymatics is, just like on
Speaker 1: the most basic, basic, basic level, here's what I find
Speaker 1: because I bring up cymatics a lot in conversation to
Speaker 1: just be like, same, dude, have you ever have you
Speaker 1: ever seen cymatics or like heard of cymatics or whatever?
Speaker 1: And almost always they're like, no, what is that? And
Speaker 1: then I'll be like, you know the thing with like
Speaker 1: the sand where there's like the sand or the water
Speaker 1: on it, s it's when the balls, dude. And then
Speaker 1: almost immediately as soon as you say like, you know,
Speaker 1: like the sand on the thing, then they're immediately like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. The thing were it makes some cool shapes
Speaker 1: and stuff, and they're like, you know, they know what
Speaker 1: it is. They just don't know that it's called cymatics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know that there's like a discipline of
Speaker 2: study that's specifically, you know, focused on exploring the scientifically, philosophically, metaphysically,
Speaker 2: romantically what really just saying.
Speaker 1: It gets romantic, no making like hearts, heart appears on
Speaker 1: the making hearts and kissy faces.
Speaker 2: I wish anyway, so great it would wouldn't it if
Speaker 2: you could just.
Speaker 1: Like last a certain frequency and then too like bros
Speaker 1: kissing or or you know, you and your wife or yeah,
Speaker 1: or just whoever fits into the equation.
Speaker 2: Because it is science. It's purely sciences, scientific, purely science
Speaker 2: research oriented. You know, it's just something that uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's about time we we dive into this situation.
Speaker 1: So I think I already.
Speaker 2: Explained my dream on nine hit it again, but I'll
Speaker 2: just yeah, I'll run through it very briefly. I have
Speaker 2: this friend named chet Chet Bentley. He's an amazing human being.
Speaker 2: I met him in Oregon when I was at Contact
Speaker 2: in the Desert. We will mers, we will most certainly
Speaker 2: have him on the show. I was gonna say mers,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a word. So we will most certainly have him on
Speaker 2: the show. It's just a matter of timing and figuring
Speaker 2: that out. But he's he's a really really interesting fella.
Speaker 2: He came out and he did like a really just
Speaker 2: immaculate sound bowl meditation for for our group. That was
Speaker 2: an Oregon after Contacting the Desert. So once we left
Speaker 2: Contact in the Desert, we went to Oregon for a
Speaker 2: week and stayed at our friend's place up in It
Speaker 2: was actually in sight of Mount Shasta. Do you know
Speaker 2: about Mount Shasta?
Speaker 1: I don't. Isn't Shasta a drink? So that's where it
Speaker 1: comes from.
Speaker 2: I think you're thinking of Sierra Missed yamn It, which
Speaker 2: is now starry I believe.
Speaker 1: So it's star is not an ad I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna quit talking about Okay, but anyway, So Mount Shasta
Speaker 2: is a mountain. I'm not sure what state it's in,
Speaker 2: if it's an Oregon or I, to be honest, could
Speaker 2: probably rely on Alex.
Speaker 1: To google that real quick, Alex, can we rely on?
Speaker 2: Could you google where Mount shastas.
Speaker 1: Shasta's got California? I heard a voice whispers.
Speaker 2: I heard a voice in the wind. It's California.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I guess voice in the wind. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know which direction I was facing. But we
Speaker 2: were staying at a property up in the mountains of Oregon,
Speaker 2: in like Mount Shasta was in the horizon. It was
Speaker 2: very far away, but you could see it was amazing.
Speaker 2: It's a mystical place. It's like it's one of the
Speaker 2: key You could say it's like a portal. You could
Speaker 2: say it's a vortex whatever. The hippies and the New
Speaker 2: Agers and the you know the people call it these days.
Speaker 2: That's not an insult.
Speaker 1: I love these people.
Speaker 2: They say there's like portals, there's vortexas and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: The hippies and the who the New Agers? So which
Speaker 1: category do you fall in, sir, if you want to
Speaker 1: go and throw it, start leveling labels. I think you're someone.
Speaker 1: Who do you say? Who do you say? New Ager?
Speaker 3: I think I think you're a I mean the the
Speaker 3: Hawaiian shirts really throw you off.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely new Ager.
Speaker 2: But ever since smoking d MT, I do be rock
Speaker 2: and tied eye every now and then.
Speaker 1: But do you know what, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I think some mysteries we just can't quite.
Speaker 1: Put a finger on anyway, So the new Agers and
Speaker 1: the vortex, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the certain spots in America that they say
Speaker 2: are for texas or lay lines or you know, portals,
Speaker 2: paranormal hotspots, and Mount Shasta is one of these places.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reported UFO activity. There's like so
Speaker 2: many like documentaries, and people flock to this place from
Speaker 2: all over the world just to go there, to like.
Speaker 1: Fill the energy of it and to beautiful new Age.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, an associate of mine just showed me a
Speaker 2: message off camera new Age.
Speaker 1: But would you like yeah like a new metal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: new metal? Yeah you know what I like? I am
Speaker 1: a new Ager you are, but new like it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it? Like you know, uh, Lincoln Park I.
Speaker 2: Think of Limp Biscuit, Christmas Kringle. You haven't heard of him.
Speaker 1: It's a Limp Biscuit, didn't I say that? All Right?
Speaker 2: Well, Corn, there's plenty of other new agers out there.
Speaker 1: A lot of new agers or new new metal bands
Speaker 1: named after food. I'm realizing, Corn, I'm just realizing Biscuit,
Speaker 1: System of a Brown.
Speaker 2: Or alternatively, do I have permission to say it? I
Speaker 2: have heard of another group? Now we will.
Speaker 1: Circle back to that later, right, Yeah, But.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so Mount Shasta is one of those places right
Speaker 2: where there's like a lot of paranormal activity and it
Speaker 2: was just so beautiful being there, being an eyeshot of it.
Speaker 2: And so we did this like meditation session with crystal balls.
Speaker 2: In this guy chat, he's like really into this, right,
Speaker 2: he does this professionally. And anyway, I'm dragging the story on.
Speaker 1: I'll move on.
Speaker 2: But we we did this session. It was a profound
Speaker 2: meditation experience for me. And when I came home the
Speaker 2: following leek a week, Wow, I must be in a portal, dude.
Speaker 2: The following the following week, I had a dream that
Speaker 2: really rocked me to my course. So the reason I
Speaker 2: brought Chett into the stories because he was in my dream.
Speaker 2: So all right, So to move forward with the dream. Basically,
Speaker 2: in my dream, I was having a trip. Remember I
Speaker 2: told you this story. I'm like tripping in the dream.
Speaker 1: Did we talk? We talked about that on the show
Speaker 1: on What If?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, but you told me to tell it again.
Speaker 2: I did, so I'm gonna through it, even though this
Speaker 2: time took longer a little bit. So in my dream,
Speaker 2: I'm going on like a psychedelic trip. And I picked
Speaker 2: up my phone and I call my friend and I
Speaker 2: was like, for some reason it was I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, chat, what the heck did?
Speaker 1: I just smoke? And he said it was plasma. Remember,
Speaker 1: I was like tripping out.
Speaker 2: And then in in the trip in my dream, I
Speaker 2: saw smatic shapes like I understood. You know how sometimes
Speaker 2: in dreams you just know things, You just understand things
Speaker 2: inherently strange. But yes, yeah, I just understood that it
Speaker 2: was simatics that I was seeing, like a vibrational pattern
Speaker 2: with sound with frequency, you know, like a certain frequency
Speaker 2: was being played in this like orb like shape with
Speaker 2: all these lines in it, exactly like simatics. It was
Speaker 2: extremely vivid. It was all blue and white and had
Speaker 2: all these specific colors and everything, and then on the
Speaker 2: phone when he was like, it was plasma, I woke
Speaker 2: up and I just inherently understood what the dream meant.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you have those dreams and you're like,
Speaker 2: what does it mean? Yeah, but then sometimes you have
Speaker 2: dreams and you're like, I know exactly what it means.
Speaker 2: And that was one of those dreams, and I just
Speaker 2: understood that it was a combination of like the orbs,
Speaker 2: you know, interdimensional beings being able to through frequency to
Speaker 2: send I don't know if waves would be the proper word,
Speaker 2: just like to send a signal to us to give
Speaker 2: us like awakening or consciousness expanding experiences, which I understood
Speaker 2: was from the trip. I didn't actually smoke anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all in your dream.
Speaker 2: Yeah me, well of course, But even me saying that
Speaker 2: in the dream was my subconscious mind being like, okay
Speaker 2: in real life to have an experience like this, you
Speaker 2: smoke DMT, Yeah, I was like, what did I smoke?
Speaker 2: And he was like, it was plasma. It's an orb
Speaker 2: it's a being. Yeah, you know, it's through frequency. It's
Speaker 2: manipulating your consciousness.
Speaker 1: So I was like, damn, dude. That was deep.
Speaker 2: And then the day after I had that dream, or
Speaker 2: the next day, I was doom scrolling online and I
Speaker 2: saw a video about about the cathedrals. Now they have
Speaker 2: the glass in the windows, you know, and they're like
Speaker 2: almost all the same. And I have a photo. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you would be willing to drop this sin,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and show you really quick.
Speaker 1: Are you willing to drop it in? Willing and able
Speaker 1: hear the best? Yeah? The freaking best. I don't care
Speaker 1: what Ryan said about you. You know what. I love
Speaker 1: you now now you did it, you did it before.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't appreciate the line of question.
Speaker 1: I just the question, yank.
Speaker 2: So I just I just exclamation marked the photos that
Speaker 2: you could drop in at this moment so people could
Speaker 2: see like the cathedral, the windows stained and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some of it is the same exact shapes
Speaker 1: that are formed through cymatics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a diagram here to drop in.
Speaker 2: You could see that and it's it's like it's identical.
Speaker 2: And that's what I saw in my dream, you know,
Speaker 2: And I just understood it was cimatics. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell, dude, so in the last few weeks
Speaker 2: I've personally been really into the topic and and yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: so what are cymatics. It's it's like you said, it's
Speaker 2: you know, you have a bowl of water, or you
Speaker 2: have like a flat surface with sand, and they have
Speaker 2: the same effect. You can visibly see the archetypal geometric
Speaker 2: form of sound waves into a shape through sand or water.
Speaker 2: So they put a speaker under a device or they
Speaker 2: use they call them like cymoscopes or tonoscopes or whatever.
Speaker 2: They play a certain frequency, they turn the speaker up,
Speaker 2: they vibrate like a specific urch like let's just say
Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty two arts. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 2: twenty eight doesn't matter. Every sound in the universe has
Speaker 2: a very specific shape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that corresponds like consistently always makes the same. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now I would say probably because someone would say, actually, masorrow,
Speaker 2: Emoto found out Well, yeah, let me tell you what
Speaker 2: the hell. We found out that you can say certain
Speaker 2: things and you put your intention behind it, and that
Speaker 2: shapes can vary, right, which is a whole other level.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think like if I was to say an English
Speaker 2: or whatever phrase like I love you or I hate you,
Speaker 2: depending on the intention that I put behind those words.
Speaker 2: And if one person beside me with a different intention
Speaker 2: but they said the same line it and like you,
Speaker 2: for example, freeze water, they might have some varying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did all those shutties where he like said
Speaker 1: different things to the water and then froze it, and
Speaker 1: the shapes would be different depending on what he said
Speaker 1: or his intentions behind what he said. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm willing to wager, Like if me and
Speaker 2: you said the same thing, but we ran an experiment
Speaker 2: and we had like completely completely different intentions, maybe the
Speaker 2: shapes would vary a little bit.
Speaker 1: I agree. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Like if you said bless your heart meaning I'm so
Speaker 3: sorry for you, and bless your heart like you're a
Speaker 3: dumb ass, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They would be two different because for maybe the uninitiated
Speaker 1: and is that a word uninitiated think? Yeah, yeah, cool? Thanks? Uh.
Speaker 1: In the South, sometimes bless your heart means fuck you.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much a way of introducing the it can't object,
Speaker 2: it doesn't it's nuanced.
Speaker 1: It doesn't always mean that.
Speaker 3: So if you go it can't service station in the
Speaker 3: South and someone says bless your heart and you didn't
Speaker 3: do anything wrong. Maybe maybe they're not saying.
Speaker 2: That, or if Jimmy's grandma is talking about him and
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, he's always just been so unathletic and uncharismatic.
Speaker 1: Bless his heart.
Speaker 2: That means like, oh, you know he's he's ugly as hell,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, kind of physically weak and debilitated,
Speaker 2: but I still love him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a backhanded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, anyway, a backhanded kind of thing. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Think that would be the perfect word to do this experiment.
Speaker 1: With your heart heart, Yeah, okay, bless your heart? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And someone says it with the intention of actually blessing
Speaker 3: someone's heart, yeah yeah. But then someone also says it,
Speaker 3: preferably a Southern grandparent, with the intention of, you know,
Speaker 3: not so nice.
Speaker 2: You say that with conviction? Are you abused?
Speaker 1: It would be like that, boys, two cent short of
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: That's real, right, Yeah, and we can go on and
Speaker 2: on deep from experience, we've all seen it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, to be.
Speaker 2: Serious, like, I would probably wager that if people said
Speaker 2: a similar thing but they put different intensions behind it,
Speaker 2: maybe the shapes would be different. But if we're just
Speaker 2: talking about like frequency, yeah, sound waves, they have archetypal shapes,
Speaker 2: so it stands to reason. So I got that for
Speaker 2: you to drop in. So obviously the idea there, or
Speaker 2: the inference, is that vibration precedes and structures physical form. Right,
Speaker 2: It influences space matter of consciousness. So when you think
Speaker 2: about speaking with intention, it's literally frequency manipulation. You you are, like,
Speaker 2: what would be how could you explain that?
Speaker 1: Dude? I couldn't beat the said all right, you'll have
Speaker 1: to explain it yourself.
Speaker 2: All right, fine, I'll try. So when you think about
Speaker 2: let me think about it, because that's actually a tough question,
Speaker 2: and I regret asking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should really ponder deep and hard about it.
Speaker 1: These are important things we're discussing. Man, get serious. First,
Speaker 1: Can you repeat the question? I don't remember? Okay, Man,
Speaker 1: you threw yourself off so hard there. I'm honestly impressed.
Speaker 1: You like did a spell on your own mind.
Speaker 2: So let's just come up with a new question. Let's
Speaker 2: just you know, and let's just throw the the Oh,
Speaker 2: I remember what it was.
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 2: It was how could we explain frequency manipulation or something
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 1: Frequency manipulation? Right exactly? You mean like literally physically manipulating
Speaker 1: the frequency, like changing a frequency with your speech.
Speaker 2: So the concept is through our words, we could alter
Speaker 2: the frequency of our body. There are different or someone.
Speaker 1: Else resonant frequency of your body, yeah, or someone else's body,
Speaker 1: you know, someone's biofield, or through certain through certain words.
Speaker 2: Like literally on a wave level, putting intention behind things
Speaker 2: you say has a measurable effect on someone's body, right,
Speaker 2: And we're going to go into this a little bit later,
Speaker 2: But there are several other magical practices that exist from
Speaker 2: very other various other cultures from around the world that
Speaker 2: are purely through speech.
Speaker 3: So I think everybody is doing this all the time,
Speaker 3: whether they realize it or not, And that the space
Speaker 3: that you operate in is like a lake, and you
Speaker 3: are constantly making ripples in this lake by what you say,
Speaker 3: how you act, and the way you kind of go
Speaker 3: about your business. So I think you're constantly manipulating the frequency,
Speaker 3: right know, Well, again, whether you realize it or not.
Speaker 3: If it's if it's a negative inner monologue, you're you're
Speaker 3: negatively rewriting your brain. If it's a positive one, you're
Speaker 3: you're making positive change.
Speaker 1: So it's like when people associate being positive with being
Speaker 1: high vibrational. You know, people talk about like, oh, like
Speaker 1: that he's a high vibrational energy. Yeah, that's like very
Speaker 1: positive and bubbly, and you know, or like low vibrational
Speaker 1: it's low vibrational energy is like negative and you know
Speaker 1: a little darker and whatever. That's what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: changing your like your personal resonant frequency as a person
Speaker 1: via your thoughts, your intentions, your words, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Well, seventy percent of the human body is made of water, allegedly, right,
Speaker 2: I haven't done the studies myself, fair, you know, but
Speaker 2: they say that the body is seventy percent water. We
Speaker 2: know through through simatics, through the great work of Doctores. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say a sorrow Momoto was sorrow Emoto
Speaker 2: through his work, we know that. You know, when you
Speaker 2: freeze water and you say certain things to it, it
Speaker 2: makes certain shapes positive or negative. If you say positive
Speaker 2: things to it, it makes very harmonious, beautiful shapes. If
Speaker 2: you say very negative or hateful or aggressive things, it
Speaker 2: makes very ugly discordant ships. So yeah, the idea is that,
Speaker 2: what if that's happening in your body. Yeah, it's happening
Speaker 2: in your body, but it's happening in.
Speaker 1: Other people's bodies too, and everyone's you know.
Speaker 2: So with the scientific equipment we have today, it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to say whether or not we could measure
Speaker 2: a thought. But yeah, for thousands of years, philosophers alchemists, hermeticists,
Speaker 2: you know, the Gnostics, the Sufi, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you would call them, the Soufists, you know, people from
Speaker 2: all these ancient cultures from around the world that have
Speaker 2: these wisdom traditions. They say that thoughts or things, you know,
Speaker 2: like if if you think a certain thought, it emits
Speaker 2: a certain vibration. I would argue, you know, in the
Speaker 2: way that we can measure water or measure sand from
Speaker 2: our words or from sound, and it makes a shape.
Speaker 2: I wonder if our thoughts make a shape, if our
Speaker 2: thoughts make a certain pattern, you know, in that pattern
Speaker 2: being replicated maybe in the realm of our subconscious. What
Speaker 2: are you gonna say, Sufi's Sufis?
Speaker 1: What did I say? Soufists? What's a Soufist? You tell us? Dude,
Speaker 1: you said it?
Speaker 4: Stand by But you can keep someone that doesn't like Sufi's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. Yeah that does make sense, thanks, Aaron.
Speaker 1: I think that's on point. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel you. I think I think it stands to
Speaker 1: reason that that your thoughts or your words could could
Speaker 1: be forming those shapes in the water inside of your body. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think about that, Aaron,
Speaker 1: Do you think like if I said to you, like
Speaker 1: I love you, do you think the water in your
Speaker 1: body is is maybe like affected like those shapes, those
Speaker 1: beautiful right feel it? You literally feel it in your chest.
Speaker 1: And when you were talking about like the intention, like
Speaker 1: like the bless your heart thing, I could say bless
Speaker 1: your heart, and if I'm thinking positive thoughts, I feel
Speaker 1: like warm and tingly in my chest, And then I
Speaker 1: could say it thinking negative thoughts and feel a very
Speaker 1: different thing in my chest. So I think that is
Speaker 1: that happening in our bodies, those shapes taking form.
Speaker 2: Maybe precisely, and even in the subconscious level, because I think,
Speaker 2: if you know, I'm really in her meticism. And one
Speaker 2: great thing about hermeticism is it talks about the principle
Speaker 2: of correspondence, that there are various other dimensions of existence,
Speaker 2: a phenomenon, whatever, or phenomena, and the idea is that
Speaker 2: all of these dimensions are entangled. So you know, if
Speaker 2: I can smoke a little chemical that can make my
Speaker 2: mind leave my body like DMT, or eat a little
Speaker 2: mushroom that grows out of the ground, or you know,
Speaker 2: there is something, there's some magical agent that exists in
Speaker 2: the molecular world that interacts with me in the physical
Speaker 2: plane through the molecules of my body. Because your body exists.
Speaker 1: In many worlds.
Speaker 2: It exists in the mental world, it exists in the
Speaker 2: spiritual world, the physical world, the molecular chemical, you know world,
Speaker 2: whatever that dimension is. And then there are other things
Speaker 2: on this planet that primarily might shift towards one way,
Speaker 2: like a plant. Okay, that's obviously on a different level
Speaker 2: of consciousness than we are. We're walking and talking, we
Speaker 2: know language, whatever. There's animals, there's minerals. They all have
Speaker 2: varying degrees of consciousness. I think that we also have
Speaker 2: to think about things as far as the mental world.
Speaker 2: It's its own plane of existence. So when you say
Speaker 2: certain things or you hear certain sounds, that little pattern
Speaker 2: that you're seeing on the sand, or that you're seeing
Speaker 2: in the water, okay, so you're seeing it with your eyes,
Speaker 2: it's playing a sound. You see a shape, all right.
Speaker 2: For some reason, every time I play five hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty eight hertz, it makes this shape. Okay, So obviously
Speaker 2: there is some archetypal intelligent design behind this sound wave.
Speaker 2: Whereas you know my ear here is it as a
Speaker 2: certain sound in this other dimension. It appears physically in
Speaker 2: this shape. It has an effect on your subconscious mind too.
Speaker 2: It's making whatever that shape is in the realm of
Speaker 2: the subconscious. It's very harmonious, it's very ordered and intelligently
Speaker 2: and mathematically designed. That has to have some sort of
Speaker 2: effect on my psyche too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So there's an idea that there could be an application
Speaker 2: for psychological healing, biological healing through sound.
Speaker 1: It's really profound.
Speaker 2: So check this out, all right, have you ever heard
Speaker 2: of the Sri yantra? Okay me either until yesterday. So
Speaker 2: let's go into this.
Speaker 1: The Sri ra.
Speaker 2: It's a visual mantra, which yantra means instrument or tool,
Speaker 2: composed of nine interlocking triangles that radiate from a central
Speaker 2: point called the Bindu. The triangles represent the union of
Speaker 2: the divine, masculine and feminine, as well as the entire
Speaker 2: cosmos and symbolic form. It is often associated with the
Speaker 2: goddess Tripura sundari, a form of shock t or the
Speaker 2: divine feminine energy and tantric yoga. WHOA keep in mind
Speaker 2: this symbol is thousands of years old. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: show it to you. Please do also please show it
Speaker 2: to erin Okay. Yeah, I'll pass it around, Okay. So
Speaker 2: it's got four upward triangles. The upward triangles obviously we
Speaker 2: know it's like we talked about the chalice and the sword. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the masculine and feminine. The upward triangle is masculine, the
Speaker 2: downward triangles the feminine. And that's why the hexagram, the
Speaker 2: six pointed star people call, you know, the star, David.
Speaker 2: It's really a hexagram, and it symbolizes the union of
Speaker 2: the masculine and feminine forces of the cosmos. All right,
Speaker 2: So the five down triangles are shock t nine triangles
Speaker 2: intersect to form forty three smaller triangles, all representing different
Speaker 2: aspects of existence. There's circles of lotus pedals the energy
Speaker 2: of creation. There's three enclosures in it, representing different layers
Speaker 2: of existence or levels of consciousness. And then there's a
Speaker 2: square with four T shaped gates called the bupura, representing
Speaker 2: the material world and the entry into the sacred spiritual world.
Speaker 2: So you could consider this like a two dimensional representation
Speaker 2: of a multi dimensional They would say it's like a
Speaker 2: temple or like a dimension of existence.
Speaker 1: That's sacred.
Speaker 2: Kind of like if you have a six pointed star,
Speaker 2: you project it into three dimensions, it makes it cute. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. Or a hexagon, right,
Speaker 2: not a star, but right, a hexagon. Every two dimensional
Speaker 2: shape has a three dimensional projection, and then probably it
Speaker 2: goes on and on and onto infinity.
Speaker 4: It's kind of what somemiics is. Yeah, because the visual
Speaker 4: representation of a three dimensional sound bubble in two dimensions,
Speaker 4: slice of the bubble of the sound wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way to put it, like a slice,
Speaker 1: because like think of a like a mercaba, you know,
Speaker 1: like a Marcaba. It's like if you slice a mercaba,
Speaker 1: it's just a six pointed star. Yeah, it's exactly same, same,
Speaker 1: all right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And so in other words, the sriantra, now you kind
Speaker 2: of understand, like the symbolic meaning of it, is also
Speaker 2: considered a map of consciousness. The outer levels of it
Speaker 2: represent gross reality and the center represents pure being or enlightenment.
Speaker 2: So like how a lotus blooms from the center outwards, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: symbolic of your consciousness unfolding and Rosicrucianism, they have the
Speaker 2: cross and the rose. Some forms of Rosicrucianism show seven
Speaker 2: roses on the cross, meaning the seven chakras, but normally
Speaker 2: there's just a rose at the center of the cross,
Speaker 2: and it's your consciousness unfolding. Yeah, it's evolving, right, because
Speaker 2: that's what life is always doing. It's always evolving, and
Speaker 2: the physical plane and the spiritual plane. As we evolve here,
Speaker 2: we evolved there spiritually. Maybe it's been suggested that you
Speaker 2: can't be punished in the spiritual spiritual world because you're
Speaker 2: immortal and you can't die. But maybe there are things
Speaker 2: that have gone on in the higher levels of cosmos
Speaker 2: that's like, ooh, you you have some lessons to learn.
Speaker 2: So part of that journey is we have to come
Speaker 2: here to do the hard time and suffering to learn
Speaker 2: those lessons.
Speaker 1: You know, to go back home or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to show you a picture of the Sritra. Ready,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass it around and show you all.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 2: An image of the Sriantra.
Speaker 1: Oh my word.
Speaker 2: Now, if you look a little closer at that image,
Speaker 2: that is actually a simatic representation of people chanting the
Speaker 2: word om no. When you chant the word oh, it
Speaker 2: perfectly creates simatics.
Speaker 1: Ye. That's nuts. It looks like a ton of six
Speaker 1: pointed stars. Yea ton of up and down try layered
Speaker 1: layered all over each other. That looks insane. Man, It
Speaker 1: hurts a little bit to look at, but it's beautiful
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna drop them for you. This is a tonoscope.
Speaker 2: On the left an actual measured tonoscope image of someone
Speaker 2: chanting home. On the right is an actual depiction of
Speaker 2: the ancient Oh, come on, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, man, wow. That is so It's like,
Speaker 1: how long has this been studied? Bro forever? How long
Speaker 1: has this been studied? Like, how long have they been
Speaker 1: doing this forever?
Speaker 4: I think it's got something to do with the kind
Speaker 4: of ancient technologies that well, civilizations half the way just
Speaker 4: don't understand yet. I feel like this study into side
Speaker 4: mix is gonna lead to kind of like breakthrough because
Speaker 4: of like how did the people build how did people
Speaker 4: build the pyramids? How did people ex all kinds of
Speaker 4: crazy stuff. But I think it's vibrational technology that we
Speaker 4: just haven't reached the level of yet that they had
Speaker 4: back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the stuff that I've been seeing
Speaker 1: lately about the like the latest theories about how they
Speaker 1: make the pyramids. A lot of it is like using
Speaker 1: some sort of vibration to literally like levitate you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Bro, they told you that in uh King Kong ex Godzilla.
Speaker 1: Wait did they? Yeah? I don't remember them. And the
Speaker 1: second one I don't remember.
Speaker 2: When they go down it's basically going to Hollow Earth
Speaker 2: is basically Atlantis and they like use uh frequencies to
Speaker 2: levitate the pyramids.
Speaker 1: Ding. But like obviously have you seen what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: There's this thing where they'll take like a piece of paper,
Speaker 1: roll it up, and then they'll take a ball of
Speaker 1: paper and they'll put the ball of paper on the
Speaker 1: table and then they'll take the roll of paper and
Speaker 1: go like mm and do like a like a hum
Speaker 1: into it, and the the ball of paper will kind
Speaker 1: of like level, it'll pull towards the tube. So it's
Speaker 1: like they're kind of theorizing they use some sort of
Speaker 1: similar vibe that you know I'm talking about. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: maybe they use some sort of and then yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like how are they what sort of instruments or did
Speaker 1: they have access to back then to be able to
Speaker 1: see cimanics those shapes and stuff, we got to use
Speaker 1: freaking speakers and and like plate like metal plates and
Speaker 1: all this stuff like electricity. Yeah, I mean they obviously
Speaker 1: had like singing bawls. Right.
Speaker 4: Like there's like the the Barra Bar Caves. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you've heard of them. I think I was
Speaker 4: talking to you earlier about them.
Speaker 1: Yeah's that these.
Speaker 4: Caves in India that are like geometrically perfect mathematically just
Speaker 4: wear beyond anything that was supposed to exist at the time.
Speaker 4: And it's like super smooth surfaces in this like granite
Speaker 4: rock that they've like carved out Apparently, like officially I
Speaker 4: think they're like two thousand years old, but according to
Speaker 4: like people who've actually looked at it, who I want
Speaker 4: to look at it, Yeah, they it's at least two
Speaker 4: thousand years old, but it's probably way way, way way older.
Speaker 4: And that kind of environment where it's like perfectly tailored
Speaker 4: to reflective surfaces. You know, they've done like light arscans
Speaker 4: and stuff. And if you sit in a specific spot
Speaker 4: in these caves and chance to specific frequency, the resonant
Speaker 4: frequency within the cave like amplifies itself.
Speaker 1: These Yeah, these what is it bear bar bear bar caves?
Speaker 4: Oh my word, So I think things like that that
Speaker 4: will have like amplified frequencies of omes or whatever. Right exactly,
Speaker 4: So you're saying these, it feels like if I'm saying,
Speaker 4: if there's like a bowl of water or something, they'll
Speaker 4: be able to find they'll be able to have a
Speaker 4: bunch of people chanting. Yeah, and if they put the
Speaker 4: bowl in the right area, they'll be able to find
Speaker 4: out the perfect frequencies of stuff and then be able.
Speaker 1: To draw it.
Speaker 2: That's not really a crazy theory, it's not at all
Speaker 2: when you understand how the cathedrals are actually built a
Speaker 2: lot of them by Masonic Stonemasons back in those days,
Speaker 2: at least allegedly, that's what I've heard. Harmonically, or maybe
Speaker 2: the word is like geometrically, the tops the acoustics of
Speaker 2: these cathedrals are designed with sacred geometry proportions to capture sound.
Speaker 2: This is a concept.
Speaker 1: The ancient Greek has been doing that exactly. Yeah, they've
Speaker 1: been doing that since what like it's it's it is,
Speaker 1: it's really perfect. Could you imagine being in one of
Speaker 1: those barrel bar caves and chanting ome and it like
Speaker 1: just resonating like loudly, and then you have like a
Speaker 1: huge bowl of like water or a plate of sand,
Speaker 1: and this massive simatic shape is being formed and magic.
Speaker 1: It would certainly like met completely magical.
Speaker 3: I think you'd be able to shift your reality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I reckon it's like a Paul yeah
Speaker 4: to what.
Speaker 2: One of our audience members said that she would chant
Speaker 2: foost rode off.
Speaker 1: You guys didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Actually, we always have audience members.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always filmed in front of yeah, live audience,
Speaker 1: live audience. Yeah, it's just this time one of the
Speaker 1: audience members was so cool that we wanted to have
Speaker 1: them on the show with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. No, but like it is crazy
Speaker 2: to think about that. I think you're right. I think
Speaker 2: that they probably had vibrational and other technologies that we
Speaker 2: aren't aware of. If we're talking theory, I mean we're speculating,
Speaker 2: right My What I kind of lean to is it
Speaker 2: all comes back to Atlantis. I don't know if we'll
Speaker 2: ever maybe someday we'll be able to understand exactly what
Speaker 2: Atlantis was I know in my my core that it
Speaker 2: was real. I think whatever the case, we had an
Speaker 2: understanding about reality. Atlantis falls. There's all these different theories.
Speaker 2: We've done a whole episode on it a few years ago,
Speaker 2: like was it some precursor incarnation where we weren't in
Speaker 2: the physical world but we were more purely spiritual advanced
Speaker 2: beings and then we we got to egotistical or you
Speaker 2: could say like we went down the left hand path.
Speaker 2: We started using our quote magical and spiritual abilities for
Speaker 2: our gain and it caused like great destruction and harm
Speaker 2: and like everything was wiped out and we had to
Speaker 2: re evolve. Or it could be suggested that you know,
Speaker 2: the notion of we always hear this story of Lucifer, right,
Speaker 2: there's this being. It's just been like what if, right,
Speaker 2: what if collectively we were all the soul of a
Speaker 2: greater cosmic being that really did and metaphorically speaking, look
Speaker 2: upon the throne of God and see greatness and say
Speaker 2: that belongs to me. That's that's where I desire to be.
Speaker 2: The higher for the universe are like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, you're not.
Speaker 2: You got to be more humble. You have a lot
Speaker 2: to learn we fell into material reality to begin the
Speaker 2: process of our evolution upwards, you know, towards those higher realities.
Speaker 2: It's just a theory, you know. Yeah, that what you know,
Speaker 2: if we were all one greater cosmic being and then
Speaker 2: we fractured into these many different souls that incarnate here.
Speaker 2: So it's like Kabbala talks about there's the lightning bolt path, right,
Speaker 2: there's the path down and the path up. It could
Speaker 2: be suggested that you know, we descended into reality from
Speaker 2: a higher place, came down here to do our time,
Speaker 2: to go through evolution suffering. It's like, you know, find
Speaker 2: the Philosopher's Stone through through lessons, through trials, through tribulations,
Speaker 2: the hero's journey, but through the path of you know,
Speaker 2: Buddha or Christ, like the enlightened Sage or whatever. Through
Speaker 2: through being in that heart space, we evolve back out
Speaker 2: of here. So that's a theory. But I think whatever,
Speaker 2: there was some sort of note that we had before
Speaker 2: whatever society.
Speaker 1: Is now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I think we had technologies then that like you know,
Speaker 2: Aaron was telling me earlier, the mathematic of the stone
Speaker 2: carvings in that cave are like what was it was?
Speaker 2: It was like less than millimeters of.
Speaker 4: A It was like modern day Stonemasons and people with
Speaker 4: lie does and stuff have gone there, and the precision
Speaker 4: is like way beyond what we can do now, way beyond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there had to be some kind of like technology
Speaker 1: that that's true island or that we don't understand or
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Easter Island. The pyramid pyramid, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you can like is that the one where you
Speaker 1: can like clap and it sounds like a bird the
Speaker 1: Mayant I think I'm talking about. You clap and it
Speaker 1: literally it sounds like birds bouncing up like the reflection
Speaker 1: or the do you want better reverberations?
Speaker 2: I think it's the winter solstice.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Do you know about that?
Speaker 2: The Temple of Cucko Con in Mexico, it's like one
Speaker 2: of the wonders of.
Speaker 1: The world of like the Mayan temple. They're kind of
Speaker 1: they're like pyramids.
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, yeah, kind of. They do have pyramids in Mexico.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that one's technically a pyramid, but
Speaker 2: it's it's like a cigarette structure. It's it's like a pyramid, right,
Speaker 2: But I think it's the December equinox I'm not sure
Speaker 2: on the date if you could look that up, but
Speaker 2: or solstice. But on this precise day every year, with
Speaker 2: the shifting of the season, a shadow is cast on
Speaker 2: the temple where there's an optical illusion that a serpent
Speaker 2: is climbing up the temple on all four sides. That's
Speaker 2: why it's one of the wonders of the world. It's December,
Speaker 2: December solstice every year, December twenty first, every year, the rise.
Speaker 1: Of the seen that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a big deal. What the like
Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out how to do that? Now? Never
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How are they doing that?
Speaker 1: That's magic?
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about this before and my my devil's
Speaker 3: advocate side of things.
Speaker 1: I'm a bruise. The devil would not. No, it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool.
Speaker 3: It's like if if you didn't have all of the
Speaker 3: modern day distractions that we have, and your only form
Speaker 3: of entertainment was to map out the sky.
Speaker 1: No, it's a good point, then we have nothing bad
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: Kind of But like you're you're so you're so in
Speaker 3: touch with your surroundings and your surroundings being Earth, and
Speaker 3: then the surrounding planet's constellations, the way the Sun moves
Speaker 3: across the sky. If you're in the business of staying
Speaker 3: alive and you it's important to know where the sun
Speaker 3: is going to be at every time of the year
Speaker 3: because the way the sun interacts with your food, you know,
Speaker 3: directly relates to how alive you get to stay and
Speaker 3: how alive your children's children's get to stay. So where
Speaker 3: your focus goes, I think humanity is where we like
Speaker 3: just hurl towards because I mean, it wasn't that long
Speaker 3: ago we were stepping on the moon and now we've ai. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 3: and now we've got AI that can do surgeries better
Speaker 3: than doctors. I mean memes, Yeah, the memes are off
Speaker 3: the short. But if we were to if we were
Speaker 3: to focus, I think everything we had and that was
Speaker 3: cool where that was mainstream. I think it's possible.
Speaker 2: Okay, well didn't you just pet me up? I'm an
Speaker 2: encounter of that, though, counter me. Imagine how many jobs
Speaker 2: you've done work in boats? Can I say that that
Speaker 2: you work boats?
Speaker 1: Okay? How many jobs work I work boats? I worked
Speaker 1: boats on the buy you.
Speaker 2: How many jobs have you worked on or carpentry or
Speaker 2: you know it, or any job that you've ever done
Speaker 2: in your life, making a song, writing poetry. Dare I
Speaker 2: say there, I not say procreating, But however, many things
Speaker 2: you've done in your life and you made you made
Speaker 2: the job.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a job. It's labor, labor intensive, it's
Speaker 1: labor and ball. Okay, where are you going? Were you
Speaker 1: in a rush?
Speaker 2: How many things have been done in your life that
Speaker 2: the smallest mistake just messes the whole thing up and
Speaker 2: you can't fix the mistake.
Speaker 1: You can't recover the mistake. You know, I could paint
Speaker 1: my ceiling and.
Speaker 2: Whoop, I gotta splotch of green on the frick, and
Speaker 2: now I can never get it right. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, that's really reductive, But dude, these structures
Speaker 2: are made with no mistakes, insane, the most mind blowing
Speaker 2: level of mathematical precision. I don't think they had TI
Speaker 2: eight four's bub how are they doing the math?
Speaker 1: It is true, it's a good another very good point
Speaker 1: because they I don't know the exact figures, but they
Speaker 1: talk about the pyramids and how if each brick was
Speaker 1: like the tiniest little sliver fraction of a millimeter off,
Speaker 1: the whole thing would be completely off.
Speaker 2: So imagine a little mistake they're building that the whole
Speaker 2: thing would fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also think about like Roman aqueducts that still exists
Speaker 3: today that are arch bridges that are built and made
Speaker 3: by stone masons with zero mortar. So you have stones
Speaker 3: tons like stones that weigh tons in an arch and
Speaker 3: none of them are glued together.
Speaker 1: They're all just pressure fitted together.
Speaker 3: And those aqueducts still standing, still being used to modern day.
Speaker 2: So it stands the reason they had knowledge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is this is wouldn't the Romans be
Speaker 3: way before this or would this be happening at the
Speaker 3: same time. I'm no historians, so at the same time
Speaker 3: as what as the temples.
Speaker 1: It would have been much later later, it would have
Speaker 1: been much much later. But the Romans were using all
Speaker 1: of the Greek stuff, so yeah, we already know about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we know all about that. They were using
Speaker 1: all of that ancient Greek mysticism.
Speaker 2: But it's stands to reason that they had knowledge that
Speaker 2: we don't have. Maybe they had tools or some sort
Speaker 2: of technology that we don't have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so really interesting that we're sitting around talking
Speaker 3: about the stone mason trade, and you have the Freemasons
Speaker 3: that are like moving all of this knowledge forward through time.
Speaker 1: Through time, through different civilizations, different cultures.
Speaker 2: The Freemasons claim that it was their master mason, Hiram Abiff.
Speaker 1: Who built the Temple of Solomon. You'll know that story
Speaker 1: and that we covered a little bit. It's it's been
Speaker 1: about one hundred episodes, so I.
Speaker 2: Don't And he was murdered, he was I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not a mason, so you know, don't point a gun
Speaker 2: to my head to get it accurate. But but he
Speaker 2: was murdered and then he was buried with a kasia tree.
Speaker 2: The acacia tree is very symbolic to Freemasons, to just Masonic.
Speaker 2: Try addition, but what do we know about the acacia tree?
Speaker 2: You can extract the mt yes, you know, but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's bizarre, and there's obviously some
Speaker 2: sort of knowledge that they had that we don't have,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think I can't speak for Aaron,
Speaker 2: but I do think that he thinks as well, because
Speaker 2: I did hear him say it earlier, that cimatics potentially
Speaker 2: could be like a key to unlock that door, you know,
Speaker 2: to understand what this is, whatever this is. And we
Speaker 2: were talking about the holographic principle earlier. I was hoping
Speaker 2: we could go into that a little bit because the
Speaker 2: way you explained it, and then he made me watch
Speaker 2: a video earlier, but then Alex showed up and we
Speaker 2: didn't get to finish.
Speaker 1: It's all his fault, damn it.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about the holographic principle and I
Speaker 2: had never heard it explained like this before, and it's
Speaker 2: honestly like it's brain melting when you think about this.
Speaker 2: He literally made me say made. I don't mean almost
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He had a kniight to my throat, like a like
Speaker 2: a like a farm animal.
Speaker 1: No. No, he was like, dude, you should watch this video.
Speaker 1: It's like, sounds great.
Speaker 2: I start watching this video and I paused at one
Speaker 2: point and I literally looked at him. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: we're all just fractals of God, right, I mean, basically,
Speaker 2: because the video was deep. It was some scientists talking
Speaker 2: about the holographic principle. I was like, holy crap, man,
Speaker 2: but let's let's go into that.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: Basically just scientific Linga described the hamatic principle of it
Speaker 4: that's above so below.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like maybe to try to normal not normalize,
Speaker 2: but like put that in Layman's terms. The idea is
Speaker 2: that if you look at a hollow a holograph or
Speaker 2: not a hologram, but like a holograph, right, like the
Speaker 2: idea that holographs are spiritual. If you if you think
Speaker 2: of sound waves or waves of light, you you can
Speaker 2: measure them in spherical shape.
Speaker 1: Am I off? There there's something about spherical uh.
Speaker 4: Sound itself when you think about when you see like
Speaker 4: a sin wave or something, you think of it as
Speaker 4: like a two dimensional thing. But sound comes out in
Speaker 4: a three dimensional bubble. And if you take any if
Speaker 4: you find any any like atom or molecule within that
Speaker 4: bubble and examine it, it will have the exact same
Speaker 4: semiic frequency pattern as the actual semic reading of that sound,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: In other words, to try to make it even more simple, right.
Speaker 4: Sound itself is basically holographic in nature.
Speaker 2: So to try to make that even more simple, because
Speaker 2: that's a little hard to understand. But I was reading
Speaker 2: the video watching the scientists explain it. We were talking
Speaker 2: about it, so like, let's try to simplify it even more. Okay,
Speaker 2: you have a sound wave, someone plays a note on
Speaker 2: the piano, and that makes one way. Hypothetically it might
Speaker 2: make more.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It makes a wave. Okay, that's two D. When you
Speaker 2: look at a wave a little long a line, that's
Speaker 2: two D. Now, we just talked earlier how everything has
Speaker 2: an entanglement to some higher and even lower dimensions. You know, infinitely,
Speaker 2: you make that wave, you project it into the third dimension.
Speaker 1: All right, it's.
Speaker 2: Now making this three dimensional spherical shape. This sound wave
Speaker 2: projected into the third dimension is making spheres, or like
Speaker 2: if you drop something in water, even you can see
Speaker 2: the two D ripples on the surface of the water,
Speaker 2: but even beneath the water it's making it's making three
Speaker 2: dimensional waves outward.
Speaker 1: Beneath the surface. Yes, okay, makes sense.
Speaker 2: Now, the holographic principle is such that.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you zoom in on any node, any part,
Speaker 1: any note of that entire three dimensional or the two dimensional,
Speaker 1: and it is the same shape.
Speaker 4: And it has the exact representation of the entire thing.
Speaker 2: So, in other words, that is crazy. In other words,
Speaker 2: let's just say he gave a number like one note
Speaker 2: on a piano.
Speaker 4: Lowest the lowest note on the.
Speaker 2: Lowest note on a piano makes a sound wave that
Speaker 2: two dimensionally like the way that the wavelength that it travels.
Speaker 2: What was it like, it's twenty twenty seven meters.
Speaker 4: Think about that. That's kind of big. Twenty seven So
Speaker 4: first like down the road for the peak of the
Speaker 4: wave to start, go up, and then back and reach
Speaker 4: the same spot again. It takes twenty seven meters.
Speaker 2: That's pretty long, right, yes, okay.
Speaker 4: And now think about how big your ears are and
Speaker 4: that you can actually hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what three milimeters? How big is the Cochlan?
Speaker 1: Pretty low?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like millimeters. Your cocklean is like this big. Okay,
Speaker 2: it can't fit that wave, no, of course, right, but listen,
Speaker 2: because because of the holographic principle, if you take that
Speaker 2: twenty seven meters wave and you chop off a little
Speaker 2: tiny piece of it, nano particle of it, it contains
Speaker 2: the information of the entire wave that's in the second dimension,
Speaker 2: in the third dimension, it's nuts in infinitestial part of
Speaker 2: that wave that you you remove, it contains the entire
Speaker 2: information of all of it.
Speaker 1: And I was watching this video, I pause it. I
Speaker 1: looked at him. I was like, dude, we're all just
Speaker 1: fractals of God. Man. It's also it's kind of like
Speaker 1: DNA a little bit too. Yeah, one teeny tiny little
Speaker 1: strand of DNA contains the same information as all all
Speaker 1: of the deal as above.
Speaker 2: So below, dude, we are all little fractal representations of.
Speaker 1: We're all just fragial reputations of God.
Speaker 2: Dude, whoa, We're all just freaking holographs and the matrix
Speaker 2: man trying to you know, but.
Speaker 1: It probably doesn't stop at the third dimension.
Speaker 4: So right, Well, if the music, if the feeling of
Speaker 4: the music that you feel when you hear it is
Speaker 4: the extra dimensional aspects.
Speaker 1: Of it, oh yeah, like it.
Speaker 3: So it's transcending dimensions. So maybe that's where the magical
Speaker 3: powers come in, because you have other beings and other
Speaker 3: things and other dimensions that we can't physically perceive, but
Speaker 3: the music can communicate to.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's how they communicate through us.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, that's so trippy, right, Like I
Speaker 1: just moked a bunch or something people, I didn't. I promise, Okay,
Speaker 1: I promise. I'm gonna have to check me. Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you even gonna do that a couple of pieces of hair.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you. We just hired hr department,
Speaker 1: Oh did we? Yeah? Yeah? The dolphin thing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what dolphins?
Speaker 3: Please, it's federally illegal to try and communicate with dolphins.
Speaker 4: Tell you that they're also kind of rape Apparently they are.
Speaker 1: Well they are, it's true. Sorry, that's fine, they are.
Speaker 1: They are ducks are. So you don't know what that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it later. Yeah, if you're going out
Speaker 2: on some dark roads, your.
Speaker 1: People drag you down anyway.
Speaker 2: No, but seriously, the dolphin thing. This is pretty deep too.
Speaker 2: I can't explain this.
Speaker 1: Is it like I'm gonna butcher it. I'll try.
Speaker 4: The video that me and Ryan watched earlier has a
Speaker 4: guy that has an instrument that he calls a seymoscope,
Speaker 4: which is it measures simanis, Yeah, it's like a way
Speaker 4: that you can view the signs representation of any sound. Basically,
Speaker 4: what like a tiny it looks kind of like a microscope,
Speaker 4: don't it with a peatradish in it that has like
Speaker 4: pure water in it.
Speaker 1: Oh cool?
Speaker 4: And then he like pulses whatever sounds you want through
Speaker 4: the instrument and it makes the simatic representation on the
Speaker 4: little peetri dish.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4: And he worked with a guy who works with dolphins
Speaker 4: who has like an underwater microphone, and he would put
Speaker 4: like different objects under the water and the dolphin would
Speaker 4: use its echolocation at each of the objects. So there'll
Speaker 4: be like a ball and like a plant pot, random stuff,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, And then the guy who took those
Speaker 4: recordings gave them to the sarmatics guy who played them
Speaker 4: through his cymoscope and you could see literally it was
Speaker 4: like a little picture of a guy holding a plant pot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can find it just from.
Speaker 4: The vibrational informat. Vibrational information of the echolocation contained the
Speaker 4: picture of the plant pot. I'm the guy's how I'm
Speaker 4: holding it?
Speaker 2: Like literally what literally the sound that the dolphin it
Speaker 2: echo located hit the pot, it came back. The guy
Speaker 2: measured the sound wave of it. I saw the picture.
Speaker 1: I'll find it real quick.
Speaker 3: This I'm trying to dolphins are communicating to each other
Speaker 3: via pictures.
Speaker 1: Bro What They're sending freaking TV signals to each other
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 4: The holographic nature of sound to just to.
Speaker 1: Paint a three D picture of what's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you wouldn't mind, Can you find that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got it, but you found it?
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, I want you to understand the sound.
Speaker 3: So wait a minute, what if that was Atlantis? What
Speaker 3: if Atlantis was a human we were able to do that,
Speaker 3: and that transcends language. So language is the barrier. Now
Speaker 3: I have to I have to communicate that what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing exists to you with these.
Speaker 1: Small little words.
Speaker 3: But what if instead I could be like a dolphin
Speaker 3: and just sends you exactly what I'm thinking in a
Speaker 3: three D sphere that you could walk, that you could experience.
Speaker 2: Are you sending something?
Speaker 1: No, that's crazy what he's saying, because think about the
Speaker 1: Tower of Babbel. We're not far away from dolphins. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, Alex, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of our hubris. Our hubris caused our
Speaker 1: universal language to be destroyed and language should be split
Speaker 1: into infinitely. So what if we did have some sort
Speaker 1: of technology that allowed us to do that and that's
Speaker 1: how we communicated.
Speaker 3: What if we were what if we were just as
Speaker 3: smart as dolphins? And then now we were forced to
Speaker 3: have to talk to each other.
Speaker 2: I don't even really think it's about like his smartest dolphins.
Speaker 2: I just think that we were in a different form
Speaker 2: of being than we are now.
Speaker 1: We were more uh spiritually, yes, spiritually advanced.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think maybe what if Atlantis was
Speaker 3: just people prioritizing surfing and you know, the vibes and
Speaker 3: the culture, and.
Speaker 1: I mean you would say that, man, I think think, I'm.
Speaker 3: It would be a utopia man. And then you get
Speaker 3: smited because you're just too good.
Speaker 1: I'm spide Oh check it out. Here's the photo and
Speaker 1: I have to see this.
Speaker 2: By this point, you can have already dropped it in
Speaker 2: so they see it.
Speaker 1: But look, all right, that's three things you got to
Speaker 1: drop into this episode.
Speaker 2: For some reason I can't assoom, but it shows you.
Speaker 2: Just look look at that the actual on the what's
Speaker 2: it the.
Speaker 1: Simuscope?
Speaker 2: On the simuscope, it's actually a picture of a hand
Speaker 2: holding up chills?
Speaker 1: Is that the insane the one at the bottom. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll show you too. I'll just text it to
Speaker 2: you real quick and you can see it because you're
Speaker 2: out of my reach physically.
Speaker 1: This is so mind blowing, isn't it? That like, my
Speaker 1: stomach is upside down. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: You showed me this earlier, and I paused, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, that's it, dude, We're all fracking.
Speaker 1: About it. The holographic principle.
Speaker 2: Every bit of that little sound wave, one little piece
Speaker 2: of it contains the information of the whole. Can that
Speaker 2: not be suggested to be the same as like us
Speaker 2: in our existence in the universe.
Speaker 1: It's holographic reality. I don't even know what to think
Speaker 1: about that. Man, geez, I'm gonna send you the photo, Alex. Gosh.
Speaker 1: It goes infinitely up and infinitely down, infinitely larger and
Speaker 1: infinitely smaller, Like the tiniest little slice contains the same
Speaker 1: information as the largest, most stretched out version of forever. Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean I always knew that there's like there's magic
Speaker 1: in sound. It's it's I feel like it's it's intuitive,
Speaker 1: like it feels like magic. It always Why.
Speaker 2: Does it make us feel so much? Why is it
Speaker 2: one of the most dominant industries on the planet Musicah.
Speaker 4: You know, and and not the most old the oldest exactly.
Speaker 2: Lucifer played music in heaven right.
Speaker 1: Right, I beout.
Speaker 4: It was fucking heavy.
Speaker 1: It was dude, I know it was heavy discords and
Speaker 1: blast beats, and yeah, it was gnarly.
Speaker 2: Apollo played the lyre, you know, Orpheus, he goes down
Speaker 2: into the underworld and he plays the liar.
Speaker 3: And I mean the whole time, I've been thinking what
Speaker 3: if they just, like, what if some bar just made
Speaker 3: the pyramids and lifted and cut the stones with vibration?
Speaker 2: But dude, I mean that's kind of what we were
Speaker 2: saying about. I mean, it's sound, you know, it's vibration.
Speaker 1: It's artistic representation. Like in the Lord of the Rings,
Speaker 1: the universe was made through sence exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the same with Ohm, right, the Hindus say
Speaker 2: om and I had gotten some notes, although I think
Speaker 2: our conversation is far transcended my notes that I had prepared.
Speaker 2: But there are like five verse six or even more
Speaker 2: magical traditions throughout the ancient past that you know, you
Speaker 2: have a lot of stuff that's like ritual magic. You know,
Speaker 2: you had the the sigil magic and you have all
Speaker 2: this stuff. People use herbs and stuff like that, But
Speaker 2: there are traditions that consisted entirely of just magical words,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I'll just run through a couple of them.
Speaker 2: We don't have to go that deep into them.
Speaker 1: It's not going to hurt me or affect me profoundly,
Speaker 1: is it. No? You sure, yeah, I'm sure right at your.
Speaker 2: Water will be ordered harmoniously. So we have golder the
Speaker 2: Norse tradition.
Speaker 1: Golder golder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the Norse tradition of like using runes.
Speaker 2: I'll just I'm gonna read this because it's kind of
Speaker 2: over my head. But golder Old Norse, or the plural
Speaker 2: is gold jarar, refers to a type of Norse magical
Speaker 2: practice involving chanting, singing, or incantation. Is deeply rooted in
Speaker 2: Germanic paganism and appears in many Old Norse songs, runic inscriptions,
Speaker 2: and mythological sources. The word golder comes from the Proto
Speaker 2: Germanic gold draws, meaning spell or incantation. It's linked to
Speaker 2: the verb gala to sing or to yell. Golder was
Speaker 2: sung or chanted rather than spoken. Rhythm, tone and repetition
Speaker 2: were important. It's like a magical song or spell, kind
Speaker 2: of like Gregorian chanting. All of the sounds that are
Speaker 2: sung or chanted or associated with a magical rune.
Speaker 1: You know about like the runic magic. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the runes were carved so you would see a
Speaker 2: runic symbol. And then the belief was that the rune
Speaker 2: was activated through the sound froda. You know you have
Speaker 2: a rune. Yeah, the voice of this, he said, the
Speaker 2: voice of the thumb.
Speaker 1: Ya you have the rune.
Speaker 2: And the idea was that speaking the precise word would
Speaker 2: activate it through its vibration. You know, it could use
Speaker 2: for healing, harming, love spells, protection and battle, controlling the weather,
Speaker 2: shaping reality of perception, calling spirits, you seeing the future.
Speaker 2: This is all in like the old poetic Vetas I
Speaker 2: mean ed Us that as it's Indu but in the
Speaker 2: poetic ed Us right, Odin is closely associated with Golder.
Speaker 2: He's obviously like the magical sage. He plucked his eye
Speaker 2: out into the well of knowledge, or in some versions
Speaker 2: he hangs on like the world tree. Yeah, and he
Speaker 2: like gains knowledge through suffering. It's like this wise old wizard.
Speaker 2: Golder reflects the power of sound as like creation of
Speaker 2: the universe itself. They are sacred forces that order the cosmos.
Speaker 2: And then you can go into Hekca, which is like
Speaker 2: the same concept but Egyptian. It's Egyptian magic. It's the
Speaker 2: idea in Heca is that Okay, So the word literally
Speaker 2: means activating the ka, and so ka means the soul
Speaker 2: of the spirit, and some people suggest that that has
Speaker 2: to do with like mirkaba like that. There are three
Speaker 2: different words tied together, so cause, I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Heca whatever. It's a cosmic force, the power by which
Speaker 2: the gods and humans can alter in shape reality. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a god named Heca personifying this magical power. It
Speaker 2: appears as a man, often holding serpents associated with divine
Speaker 2: speech and healing. Heca is considered even older than the
Speaker 2: gods and some myths it exists wavelengths exactly. I didn't
Speaker 2: think about that, but yeah, exactly, Yeah the hell. Actually
Speaker 2: I was at Monroe one time, uh my gateway, and
Speaker 2: we were talking about sound waves and everything, and we
Speaker 2: just got to talking about like mythological things and how
Speaker 2: through sound waves it synchronizes the brain. And I just
Speaker 2: got to thinking about it, and we were talking about
Speaker 2: the right brain and the left brain, and I started thinking, damn, dude,
Speaker 2: you know the eye of horse and the eye of raw,
Speaker 2: or you know the eye of raw on the right
Speaker 2: side the eye of horse on the left side. That
Speaker 2: symbolized both sides the brain, the masculine, the feminine, the
Speaker 2: magic and the logical, or you could say the physical
Speaker 2: world and the spiritual world, reason, mathematics. That's the left brain,
Speaker 2: and then the right brain would be like artistic, creative,
Speaker 2: you know, connected to the energy around us. And I
Speaker 2: got to think about it, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: that image is always associated with the ureus, which if
Speaker 2: you know what a euraus is, it's the eyebrow in
Speaker 2: that image, and it's a cobra. Oh, it's a single
Speaker 2: serpent that's like wiggling along the forehead or.
Speaker 1: Like above each eye.
Speaker 2: It's serpents, but it's like a little wiggle.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, dude, it's like a wavelength.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a sound wave connects on both sides.
Speaker 1: That's what I was suggested.
Speaker 2: I was like, how wow, what do you guys think
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know. Sound has got to be
Speaker 1: one of the most ancient forms of magic, so I
Speaker 1: don't think that's too far off to think that they're
Speaker 1: weaving that symbology into all kinds of stuff, Like the
Speaker 1: most ancient times I as far back as civilization.
Speaker 2: If you cut open the brain and you look at
Speaker 2: like I think it's the hippocampus, it literally looks or
Speaker 2: maybe it's the maybe it's the thalmus. There's a part
Speaker 2: of the brain that when you cut the brain in
Speaker 2: half and you look at it, it literally looks like
Speaker 2: the eye of rock.
Speaker 1: Have you seen this? Okay, you gotta see this. Which
Speaker 1: the heck? You know?
Speaker 2: I think it's eye of I'm just gonna type, I
Speaker 2: have raw brain. Look at this, seriously, look the eye
Speaker 2: of raw on the right, and then you got the
Speaker 2: brain on the left.
Speaker 1: I think you'll be able to tell which is which.
Speaker 1: No way, dude, no way, it's crazy, right. I was
Speaker 1: thinking like it. It would like vaguely look, No, it's
Speaker 1: literally like it. It's like it's it, id it is it?
Speaker 2: What were they cutting open brains like Victor Frankenstein?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably probably. I'm sitting here thinking. I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I'm like, you know, if there were
Speaker 1: no rules, da Vinci was doing it right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's for science. Yeah, just strictly cut open a
Speaker 1: couple of brains.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you that as well, just in case
Speaker 2: you want to come on, man.
Speaker 1: Please drop them in. Please.
Speaker 5: You didn't even ask you please, just you went straight
Speaker 5: to begging. I know you, man, We've we've bet his
Speaker 5: limit of four, so now we got to start begging.
Speaker 2: So there's like, to me, there's all kinds of evidence
Speaker 2: of doing things like home chants and things like that,
Speaker 2: like SIMP. I think it's the paris pathetic right, the
Speaker 2: like the calming response of the nervous system. There's so
Speaker 2: many scientific studies that just chanting things like om are
Speaker 2: Like the Sufis would say it's h U.
Speaker 1: I think it's Hue. They would chant who.
Speaker 2: It calms the nervous system. There are other scientific studies
Speaker 2: to talk about, like chanting OLM increased nitric oxide in
Speaker 2: the brain.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been I've seen that.
Speaker 2: Like they've they discovered it in cows. They're like, wow,
Speaker 2: cows have such.
Speaker 1: A high night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be moon and it's like sending their nitric
Speaker 2: oxide through the charts. The Sufies it's Hugh Hu or
Speaker 2: it's who.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I'm it's not moo.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the sufis hu Jackman was something Jess, But.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I had to add a pr to
Speaker 2: make it family friendly.
Speaker 1: But this is a family friendly show after all. So oh,
Speaker 1: and then you know we got hekka.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we pretty much covered that they
Speaker 2: would use that for all kinds of things.
Speaker 4: You said about Hecka being part of the Maccaba. The word, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's Marlin.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I wanted to say it with yeah, Merlin.
Speaker 2: And then ba is also.
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, good one Bible reference. Good. What is murr? Though?
Speaker 1: I don't know? You tell me, man, you're the one
Speaker 1: over there thinking about it.
Speaker 2: Mr supposedly is light, ka is spirit, ba is body.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if r is an Egyptian word
Speaker 2: or what.
Speaker 1: Let me look that up. That stands to reason light,
Speaker 1: I mean, Merlin like that. That makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: And then you said ba is what body?
Speaker 3: So light spirit body is the light spirit body has
Speaker 3: in Frankenson's and or no spelled difference in me r.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just saying that Murr holds a significant
Speaker 3: spiritual meeting, often associated with purification, healing, and connection to
Speaker 3: the divine.
Speaker 2: When Jesus was killed, he was given frankinsense and and
Speaker 2: when he was born, Yeah, and Hee was born.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, full circle.
Speaker 2: And you know what, maybe there is something special to
Speaker 2: the actual sound of the word itself. You know, I
Speaker 2: wonder about that sometimes, like even even yeah.
Speaker 1: Just trying to give a little audible nitric oxide.
Speaker 2: He's just like freaking, it's going off the charts, right
Speaker 2: than if we had a graph on your brain, it'd be.
Speaker 4: Like if we had a simuscope, would be able to find.
Speaker 1: Out it would be a little picture of a cow. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm dairy free, so you can look at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, but the information broke to my eyes.
Speaker 3: I think we should just put sensors on his brain though,
Speaker 3: who me, my brain?
Speaker 1: You going silent on me?
Speaker 2: This is not the episode to go silent bro yes,
Speaker 2: his brain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool. I wish we could all
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I mean I've done it, but I wish we could
Speaker 2: kind of all do it as like a like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it'd be fun. I just don't have the
Speaker 2: technology like the Egyptians did to be cutting brains open
Speaker 2: and looking at the little so we got obviously Gregorian chants, right.
Speaker 2: There are studies this show that when Gregorian chants are
Speaker 2: done in the proper way. It causes brain wave and treatment.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, synchronizing the hemispheres of the brain. Again, how
Speaker 2: do they know this stuff? You know, even when you
Speaker 2: go to Gateway, I mean you could tell them and well,
Speaker 2: you guys will learn about this pretty.
Speaker 1: Soon when you go through my program.
Speaker 2: But they know that for many hundreds, if not thousands
Speaker 2: of years, that there would be things like drum circles.
Speaker 2: And they found that what was it, like six hurts,
Speaker 2: right like somewhere around like six hurts, they would, you know,
Speaker 2: play drums in a certain pattern. Bobby talks about this
Speaker 2: on an episode. Remember he heard a drum circle and
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, Colonel John Alexander showed me a
Speaker 2: video one time where he was in I think it
Speaker 2: was in Ethiopia or somewhere in like a small village
Speaker 2: in Africa, and they were doing this drum circle fire ceremony.
Speaker 2: I told you all this a long time ago. But
Speaker 2: he was like putting fire in his mouth and on
Speaker 2: his eyes and he wasn't being burned, and they were
Speaker 2: playing drums and it was this very hypnotic sound. And
Speaker 2: John said even he went into a trance just being
Speaker 2: there witnessing the thing. So It's been known for probably
Speaker 2: forever that certain rhythmic patterns bring you into.
Speaker 1: A trance like state. They didn't train the hemispheres of
Speaker 1: the brain.
Speaker 4: I don't think they would have known about the entrainment
Speaker 4: of brain waves, but they wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: To, right, But they know about the effect. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know that something is happening, right. Yeah, They probably don't
Speaker 2: know that it's the right and the left synchronizing. Maybe
Speaker 2: the Egyptians did.
Speaker 1: I wonder that. Well, they were obviously cutting them open.
Speaker 1: They were cutting them open then, so they know there
Speaker 1: was a right and the left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Back then people probably didn't even know
Speaker 2: they had brains. They probably thought, you know, what's in there.
Speaker 4: You know, people have been training dogs for however many
Speaker 4: thousands of years, but we don't know how a dog's
Speaker 4: brain even works.
Speaker 1: Still to this day. Yeah, wow, still to this day.
Speaker 2: That is crazy when you think about it. So just
Speaker 2: a few more traditions to wrap it up. We obviously
Speaker 2: have mantras, the seed words. We have things like ow, monipod,
Speaker 2: may hum, so hum, they're these. If you know about mantras,
Speaker 2: it's it's basically like ancient Sanskrit words like ole, miss Sanskrit.
Speaker 2: I believe the idea is that kind of like Latin
Speaker 2: Sanskrit is one of those so to speak, dead languages
Speaker 2: that there's believed to be like a vibrational power behind
Speaker 2: each word. So they have seed mantras. So they give
Speaker 2: you this seed, which the idea is you chant something
Speaker 2: like om or vomb or ram or ham or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it's a seed. And the more that you plant
Speaker 2: the seed by chanting the sound that the seed grows
Speaker 2: in your mind, it grows in your spiritual body. So
Speaker 2: you're planting this seed in over time it grows. But
Speaker 2: like a rebo, Yeah, like a rebo. Then you have
Speaker 2: zeker or deeker, which is Islamic Sufiism, the repetition of
Speaker 2: certain names of God like a Llaho or who or
Speaker 2: al haak to alter your consciousness to bring you close
Speaker 2: closer to God, purifying your soul. It can bring it
Speaker 2: into trance like states, unity, love, divine intoxication, which I
Speaker 2: think that's just a silly word to say, like higher
Speaker 2: states like you reach the states at Monroe or if
Speaker 2: you were at like an ashram for you know, weeks
Speaker 2: or years or whatever.
Speaker 1: Hebrew Kabala.
Speaker 2: They obviously have words of power like yahweh or a
Speaker 2: very popular one. You've probably heard this before, but it's.
Speaker 1: Aya a share Aya.
Speaker 2: I think it's in a rap song. Otherwise it's like
Speaker 2: a biblical thing. I never heard it, and it's like
Speaker 2: a name of God. I think it means like the
Speaker 2: host of hosts, the heavenly host of hosts. And the
Speaker 2: idea in Kobalism is that saying aa is share aa
Speaker 2: over and over again is like summoning angels to protect you.
Speaker 2: But the difference with Hebrew, as we know with the Jamatria,
Speaker 2: that there's precise mathematics behind every letter, so these words
Speaker 2: are very mathematically ordered. You have ifa and yoruba or riki,
Speaker 2: which are like Western African incantations. So it's like, I
Speaker 2: guess it's like spoken praise poetry, which is what ariki is. Prayers,
Speaker 2: divinatory chance to invoke deities, protect heel, alter your fate.
Speaker 2: Shamanic invocations of Siberia, the Amazon and Mongolia, chants, whistles,
Speaker 2: songs to summon spirits or travel across realms.
Speaker 4: I love the idea of swimmoning a spirit with a whistle.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, boy, whistles suck, can't you do
Speaker 2: that in Zelda the new one.
Speaker 1: You can do that in Elden Ring. Oh you call
Speaker 1: a freaking spirit horse with a whistle. That's true. It's
Speaker 1: freaking epic, true, a freaking gandolf some the of all
Speaker 1: horses with a whistle? Does he shadow facts? I don't
Speaker 1: remember that Shadow Wizard money gang. We cast bells. Yeah
Speaker 1: that is, that's that's pretty sick. Shut up, Shadow Wizard
Speaker 1: money Gang. We're shouting them out. That's dangerous.
Speaker 2: That is kind of dangerous cause they can come after us.
Speaker 2: They're gonna zoom in on us with their magical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know about us. Now we're ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have to give them offerings to like
Speaker 2: keep them off for back.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be an avalanche is gonna fall on your
Speaker 1: house now, dude, Saramon's gonna get you at the beach
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Yes, yeah, powerful. I mean he was
Speaker 1: the White Wizard bro.
Speaker 2: He was until the new dude rolled up and said, hey, right,
Speaker 2: you know this this Mike Turf Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thanks, that's all I got, man. I think
Speaker 1: I think, uh, this has been fun, Yeah it has.
Speaker 1: It's been fascinating too, and stuff I never knew about
Speaker 1: sound that whole like the what you what do you
Speaker 1: call it? Holographic? What was it? Principle? Holographic holographic principle
Speaker 1: that like shook me for a minute. Yeah me too,
Speaker 1: whoa a minute? But yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it's probably
Speaker 1: been a couple of minutes, at least about.
Speaker 2: Thirty it's been about forty minutes.
Speaker 1: Whatever did it shook me to my core? That's all
Speaker 1: that matters. Man, I'm shaking up. Okay.
Speaker 2: It's freaking deep, dude, Seriously. I think simatics is a
Speaker 2: very deep conversation. I think more people should be diving
Speaker 2: into it, like just kind of being being exposed to it.
Speaker 2: I personally think the first time you ever show somebody's sigmatics.
Speaker 2: I've shown many people throughout the years, the first time
Speaker 2: someone sees it, they're like whoa right, They're like they're
Speaker 2: mind blown. It's like, oh my god, Like how is that?
Speaker 1: Why is that? What is that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: It's it's mind blowing. I think it's like kind of
Speaker 2: like the secret thing that's that's not very popular, and
Speaker 2: I my hunch is that in time it'll be a
Speaker 2: very important part of like our science, maybe our medicine.
Speaker 4: Non invasive procedures and stuff that just like resonate with
Speaker 4: your cells to heal them and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a very good point. Yeah, and I'm sure.
Speaker 2: We'll still take chemicals and stuff, sure, but they have
Speaker 2: their place. But herbs and you know, various things that
Speaker 2: we have to ingest. But we've always done that too.
Speaker 4: But but then when you ingest stuff, all you're doing
Speaker 4: is ingesting a molecule, and what's actually happening is a
Speaker 4: molecules vibrating.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a tiny, tiny, tiny scale, it's just the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 1: You could get there without having to ingest something. Potentially, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe if you have the right frequency exactly. We need
Speaker 1: to be mapping these frequencies, I know, like mapping a dimension. Dude,
Speaker 1: think about it. It really is deep gosh, like someday,
Speaker 1: someday that like that frontier is gonna be like just
Speaker 1: chock full of discoveries and yeah, what a day that'll be.
Speaker 1: Like how why that's going to feel like a map age?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly, I just get the weird feeling that,
Speaker 2: you know, what Atlantis was, we are on the way
Speaker 2: to being that again. Like I think it's a cycle
Speaker 2: that repeating, you know, and that's saying maybe it'll be
Speaker 2: years and years. I mean, who could ever say, oh,
Speaker 2: we're Atlantis now. But like, I think that's kind of
Speaker 2: the point of like the Age of Aquarius, like returning
Speaker 2: to that state to where knowledge is free and we
Speaker 2: can like relearn all these things, use these technologies again.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that it's very important for the
Speaker 2: future of our understanding of metaphysics other dimensions. Dude, you're
Speaker 2: literally looking at You could say that like, in some
Speaker 2: strange way, a shape is an entity, Like you look
Speaker 2: at a square like bro that has a specific frequency
Speaker 2: in another dimension that's like emitting some forceful action on
Speaker 2: our world. Yeah, we can't really see, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Then you play a certain little sound and
Speaker 2: you can see it.
Speaker 1: Whoa.
Speaker 2: And then the question is about light. I'm out, this
Speaker 2: is getting deep. What's the deal with light?
Speaker 1: Man? What's up with that? It's like airplane food? Okay, man,
Speaker 1: all right, Jerry Seinfeld, he's back on it. Man, We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a whole other episode about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the We might just have to Okay, let's
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: We have a looked into how how what the universe
Speaker 4: would look like from the perspective of a photon of light.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, trippy stuff.
Speaker 2: Have you seen like I think it was. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna pull up the picture and make you drop
Speaker 2: it in. You've been working really hard and we've already
Speaker 2: put it in before in a previous episode. But I
Speaker 2: think it was like one of the first times or
Speaker 2: I don't you know what. I'm just gonna say it
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna try to be specific and people
Speaker 2: can go look it up for themselves. You look at
Speaker 2: a photon of light, like an actual image of a
Speaker 2: photon of light, and it looks like a templar cross.
Speaker 1: Have you seen this? It's deep. I'm gonna show you well,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Okay, cool? How about that?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it's it's pretty wild. Another thing is like,
Speaker 2: you look at what was it they finally measured quantum entanglement.
Speaker 2: They were able to like take some sort of image
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, that's a photon of light. It's a
Speaker 2: literal templar cross.
Speaker 4: We're gonna shift into light and do a little two
Speaker 4: parter back to back.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: And then also when you see quantum entanglement, I don't
Speaker 2: know how they measured that. It looks like a y yang.
Speaker 1: Oh oh right, they did get the first here. Let
Speaker 1: me let me find that as well. They got like
Speaker 1: the first uh I remember, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. We definitely did the spirit science.
Speaker 1: So familiard on with quantum entanglement. You know what, O cool, cool,
Speaker 1: you've done it. Whoa, that's awesome. This is so obviously
Speaker 1: on the on this side is a yin yang. This
Speaker 1: is an actual, like measured capture of what a quantum
Speaker 1: entanglement looks like two quantumly entangled particles. It's it's just
Speaker 1: it literally just is exactly the yin yang.
Speaker 2: So my whole thing is like obviously these ancient symbols
Speaker 2: that we've had for god knows how long, like since
Speaker 2: before society was even recorded. You know, these symbols have
Speaker 2: been around.
Speaker 1: That's a ten thousand year old symbol probably maybe older
Speaker 1: maybe older.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it's like forever and people have
Speaker 2: always had it, and maybe ten thousand years ago people
Speaker 2: started being like hmm, you know, writ and down. But
Speaker 2: crosses way predate Christianity, Like crosses are actually in cultures
Speaker 2: around the world. It was even evidence of crosses in
Speaker 2: Mexico and like Aztec stuff crosses in India, you know
Speaker 2: they look a little different crosses in Egypt. You know
Speaker 2: this is like a very ancient symbol. I think it
Speaker 2: stands to reason. And we talked about this on a
Speaker 2: Wisdom Tradition episode. I can't remember where, but it's a
Speaker 2: brilliant quote by Manly P. Hall out of the book
Speaker 2: you're reading, The Secret Teaching of All Ages. And I
Speaker 2: can't quote o verbatim, but the principle of the quote
Speaker 2: is like, symbols are the language of the mysteries, right
Speaker 2: that they are basically little archetypal expressions. So whenever you
Speaker 2: see a symbol, what constitutes a symbol some sort of
Speaker 2: perfect mathematical ratio or you know, geometry, whatever. Every time
Speaker 2: you see the symbol, it's representing some higher force, some
Speaker 2: higher knowledge. I mean, look, every time you look at
Speaker 2: yin yang, now you know that that's quantum entanglement and action.
Speaker 2: Every Time you look at a templar cross, well, you
Speaker 2: know that's what every little photon of light looks like.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: These symbols mean something beyond our comprehension. I think their
Speaker 2: doorways into another world.
Speaker 1: What's up? Do you want the quote? Sure?
Speaker 3: Symbolism is the language of the mysteries. By symbols, men
Speaker 3: have ever sought to communicate to each other those thoughts
Speaker 3: which transcend the limitations of language. Kind of on the
Speaker 3: nose of what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: a holographic dolphin symbol of a pot speaks way louder
Speaker 3: than me trying to explain that there was a dude
Speaker 3: in the pool with a pot in his hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Pretty deep, man, Yeah, very deep, very amazing enough. Well,
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