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Bram It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome, Thanks for getting your pot on.
Thank you for telling their friends. As we head into
twenty twenty five, Danny's here.
Speaker 2: He's excited. Is that a new bill sweatsh I've had this.
It's a good shape. Yeah it I keep it real. Yeah,
only wear that game days.
Speaker 1: That's the only time I've been wearing this one too.
I think it was some of my.
Speaker 2: Other ones disappeared, got stolen, I don't know, from my roommate,
my house mate.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden I see it and everything
in that in his fashion has to be cropped. So
he takes scissors and cuts the bottom offcheck.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what he's doing. I have no
I'm focused on Tuesdays basketball practice.
Speaker 1: We will get to things that happened today. It was
a steam rolling up in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it looked pretty good for the second half.
I'll say that.
Speaker 1: But I have a problem with New York State again.
Speaker 2: I mean, and there's still a lot of problems now.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, you do lots of things, lots
of things that make you scratch your head in the state,
but the rest stops. I can't get over this because
I drove to Alexandria, Virginia or Fairfax, where my sister lives,
and I had my mom, my dad, and my son
in the car. And when you drive into the states
like Maryland, they're welcome centers and their rest stops are
in the center of the highway, So instead of getting
off on the right, you're getting off on the left,
and it serves traffic headed north and traffic headed south
or east and west, whichever direction you happen to be going.
But so the both works out for everybody, both sides.
How often have you been driving on the New York
City three I go.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I gotta go to bethm I gotta
go to Beth. What's with you after a Bill's game?
I guess the platos, Billy, I gotta take a leak man.
We had moved like about twelve feet in forty five minutes.
So when you're like nineteen and thecause.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo, all the routes start with the and you
saw you could see Let's say you're driving, let's say
you're driving from New York City back to western New
York and you see a rest stop that you could
hit if you were headed to New York City, but
not one on your side, right, so you got to
wait another fifteen lucky.
Speaker 2: Guys going eastbound, Well so I'm gone.
Speaker 1: But here they had it all. It served everybody. Yeah,
it seemed like a better use of space.
Speaker 2: Planned. It was well planned.
Speaker 1: Then I stop on the way back here and I
go into a rest stop and I forget. They're all
redesigned and they're horrible. They're absolutely awful, and we can
nor So I go into the bathroom and as I
finish up, I hit the soap dispenser.
Speaker 2: There's no soap.
Speaker 1: Right, and I'm about I go I should just leave,
but the guy next to me goes, yeah, use my soap,
and I I felt like I was being shamed into
washing my hands, so I stayed. I washed my hands
and then go. And then there's the women's room. Every
time has a line.
Speaker 2: Every time. It's terrible. And have actually gotten.
Speaker 1: Yes, they've gotten worse. And yet it seems like south
of us they figured it out. They serve a bigger side,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Remember when the South was considered dumb and the North
was considered smart, and New York was on the cutting edge,
and we made fun of all those Well I didn't
those hillbilly rednecks down south. Have you noticed how the
tides have turned? We're behind the times that they're more
with it. Maybe why because the innovators have decided, you
know what, I don't want to live in this cold
climate anymore. I want to move south where it's warm.
I want to fly because what do birds do by
instinct in the winter time? They fly south? Where did
innovation go towards the south? Right?
Speaker 1: Well, I can't say that forever. I'm just talking about
rest stops, and I'm talking about Maryland.
Speaker 2: It trickles down Bill Delaware, think about not so much Jersey.
But somebody's ever going north for like vacations. Everybody's going
sud Some people go to Canada. Some people go up
to you know, yeah in July. In July, Yeah, I'm
going hunting from or not hunting, but fishing in Canada
because it's only going to be eighty five up there.
But I went, It's crazy, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just frustrating, and I go, everybody's got to
be experiencing this as you're driving back and all that.
Speaker 2: Did you travel for the I went home to Silver
Creek and came back. Yeah, that was no. I No,
I didn't. I did not travel. That's right. My family
traveled to me. I didn't travel. How did I just
brain space that? Wow? I did not travel. It was
that good.
Speaker 1: It felt like you were home, felt like I was home.
It felt like you had a silver great Christmas silver creek.
Speaker 2: My sister did a great job on Christmas Eve, my
in laws did a great job on Christmas Day. My
wife did a great job on both days. Yeah, and
then there was my wife's birthday of the day after,
so it's kind of like a mini like Hanaka Kwanza things. Yeah,
for three straight days of Christmas. So yeah, it's a lot.
It was good. It is a lot. Did you get
anything good? Yeah? I got some cool stuff. I got
a new chair, new chair. My wife didn't like the color,
so she's already reupholstered the chair. Those fingerhut catalogs grand
threats would get to like try to, like, I don't know,
like decorate your house but in a weird, red necky way. Yeah,
my wife got, oh, we gotta I gotta do vake
cover or whatever a cover for your chair because I
don't want to look at the weird color of the chair.
It doesn't match the decor in the house. So she's
already put like brand new, like grayish, is this a
chair covering? For what? For? Watching the bills for tell
it's my man chair. I take a call with that.
I hate when people do that. Is it a recliner?
A recliner? Look at you? Put my feet up. It's comfortable.
I gotta sit in the thing. I found a great
price for it. May I ask who gave this to you? No,
I bought it myself. I gifted myself. Yeah all right,
so yeah, but I got some other cool stuff too.
You didn't talk to your wife about it before you
bought it? Well, no, I just got she goes. You
could do whatever you want, but to put a cover
on it. Okay, that's fair because you have to look
at it too. Because I had this brown tannish khaki
like color to it. It's leather. Yeah, she didn't. She
ain't putting up with that. So she put this gray
cover on it, which looks like something your grandparents would
put on, is what I'm wondering. Yeah, but taste in furniture,
it's not that. It's just the couch has to the
chair is to accept me like I sit in all
the chairs wherever I go, and it has to be
just right. You can get like shoes, pants and chairs
you gotta try on. Yes, this one's just right up
exactly like that when it comes to furniture, Goldilocks and
the chair accepted me at a low, low price.
Speaker 1: Okay, wonderful. And now it's got a cover. Yeah, so
if you ever were to resell it, not stained because
the covers.
Speaker 2: On, Yeah, there's I could resell it theoretically. Theoretically, Yeah,
I'm just saying, but yeah, it was great. No, but
I got some I got some cool stuff from my family,
so that was that was pretty awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My brother in law who uh, his dad was a
diplomat from Somalia, where Muslim is the religion of the country,
and uh, I don't believe he practices, but did not
know much about Christmas until my sister came on the scene.
He goes overboard, love it like he goes. He buys
stocking stuff and stuffers. I got some thing in my
stocking that seals the reseals the bag of chips for you.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that's innovative. Yeah it is, although I
don't know if it's a blessing or a curse because
you've had a problem with chips this past year, yes,
too many. But now you're keeping him fresh get through
the bag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get through the bag. I
don't want to. I I hit. I hit a new
record high in my weight over the holidays because my
sister had every kind of food of every type.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I ate and ate and ate, and figured to
ask grewess the holidays. I'll wait for the new year.
And I actually got up this morning and went to
a spin class because I go, I gotta get a
head start on this. This is this has now gotten
to be disgusting.
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Well, my wife kind of threw me a
hint this Christmas, I could lose a little more weight,
she got me. No, this is awesome. I love it.
The trampoline. She got me a trampoline from my office.
Speaker 1: A little tiny one, little tiny ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would that be a hint that you need
to lose weight.
Speaker 2: No, it's not that it hits.
Speaker 1: She did, like you open it and went watch it,
jiggle watch.
Speaker 2: Kind of Yeah, what are you trying to tell me
we have a why why do you say no? She
believes it, like she saw some commercials on it. It
helps train your lymphatic system, it helps build your legs
and your core. So I jump on it. About a
thousand times a day. I'm not joking. Ten rounds of
one hundred. I love it, Billy, I love it. And
it actually it works your cardio. It's actually fun cardio,
well not running cardio, but a fun cardio. Jog on it.
You'll see. Yeah, it's a harder workout. The thing is
you got to use sneakers or barefoot. If you use socks,
you'll slip off this thing and break your neck. Like
our parents warned us in the eighties when all our
neighbors had every fourth neighbor had a trampoline deck. Can
we get now, let's go to break your neck.
Speaker 1: Uh, this is cool. There's a lot of exercise classes
that do it just on trampoline. Oh wow, yeah, yeah,
there's so there's like videos and stuff. They're like, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, I gotta check this out. Yeah, it's like bounce.
I think it's called bounces. Look up bounce workouts or
bounce classes. I think they do them with weights lightweights
and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I gotta try this. You'll see. My
wife does it because she has planti fasciitis in one
of her feet. Goes. You could feel it in your
feet too. Yeah. But that's my that's my favorite gift
by far. That was the best.
Speaker 1: My mother got me a heated vest I was wearing
when you came in.
Speaker 2: But that's fantastic because you can keeps you warm outside,
it keeps your sweating inside. Started it's like having a
day long sauna.
Speaker 1: Started to give me too hot, you know, when I
was down at my sister lives, you know, really close
to DC and Fairfax, Virginia. So the day after Christmas,
we split up, I think, like my sister and niece
and my mom went for tea somewhere and the rest
of us went to the Spy Museum. Okay, oh wow,
which is impressive if you ever get it or Langley, No,
it's I don't know where it is.
Speaker 2: The Spy Museum would be like a CIA type of thing.
Speaker 1: It's all of it. It is spy from around the world.
It's everything you're going back to, like the Trojan Horse
and Bond movies. Oh yeah, they have a whole section
for they do and when you walk in, and they've
got the Aston Martin Carr right a lot. But this
museum is so well done and so cool and of
course what I love and what I always try to
say to kids because the history is boring. Is I
know they only give history is Instagram. It gives you
the best of the best. Right when you're looking at
Instagram for the most part, or any social media, people
are putting up their best stuff. Right, So all the
family smiling and all that, you didn't see where somebody
got drunk and cursed out the family and fucking stormed
out of the house chasing after him to take away
the keep. We don't see that. We just see the
good stuff. And that's kind of the thing with history
as well. Like a lot of times, what you learned
was the highlights, the good stuff, yes, right, the good
stuff or the notable stuff, not all of it good.
Speaker 2: Every book is really the NFL Prime time for I
don't want.
Speaker 1: To say good stuff, but because I'm sure there are
people go, well, it wasn't all good. No, you're right,
it wasn't. But what I'm saying is you got the highlights.
Speaker 2: Here's America was awesome. Here's a couple f ups. Yeah,
for the most part were great.
Speaker 1: But the Spy Museum was pretty awesome because they I mean,
they go right into nine to eleven. They do the
Obama taking out Osama, the whole thing, like you know,
the different behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: I couldn't spend a lot of time in all.
Speaker 1: This because just there were some complications there while there.
But what I did see in the beginning was early
tracking devices, in early ways that they did things, and
how they would get small cameras or small recording devices
into certain situations. And they made for male spies like
a ball sack cover, a scrotum cover. Oh wow, yeah, yeah,
it's a scro It's shaped like a scrotum and it
went over your scrotum and it could gave you a
little extra room you could smuggle in a recording device
because they go when they did the pat downs, they
weren't really patting down there, you know what I mean.
So if they did a pat down, so these guys
are doing it. But they they made this sack very authentic,
and they've got like these long gray hairs coming off
of it. It's behind glass, and all of a sudden,
I hear it.
Speaker 2: We don't have a match. Knows about the drapes.
Speaker 1: I hear somebody behind me, his name maybe Jamieson. So
somebody needs to get through the salon. I'll tell you
that you had to see.
Speaker 2: It's like the longest scrotum hair.
Speaker 1: But then I turn around and there's this video and
it's talking about women spies and how women were really
kind of office workers for a long time, and then
how they started to use in almost seductive ways.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen homelands.
Speaker 1: There was one woman who said, yeah, well they were
looking for Noriega.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: She said, I would put on my jogging shorts, my
short shorts, and I would jog and I would stop
at all the different places and.
Speaker 2: Talk to the guards.
Speaker 1: And she said they didn't know they were talking to operatives,
you know they would and she said, I would get
all kinds of information. So, and there were some other
coca plants. There's another woman who now older for sure,
and I don't mean that in any derogatory way, but
she even said experienced. Look at me, she goes, who's
not going to trust me? And you looked at her.
She was you just saw a very her eyes were
very big. Pretty I wouldn't say beautiful, but very a
pretty woman. Yeah, And she goes, yeah, they would just
sort of give you their secrets or tip their hand.
And then there was some guy from Scotland who was
known as the Romeo, and I read a little bit
about Romeo. He sounds like he was like it almost
makes you wonder if this guy was the original Bond
in some way, or if Bond came first and he
became a spy because of Bond. He must he was
I don't know, he must have banged everybody around the world.
It just sort of led that way. But then there
was a couple and she was like a diamond. He
was a diamond dealer and she was something else. But
they would go into all the underground sex swinger places
in New York City and they would find a lot
of CIA and KGB and other people in the in
the sex I'm gonna call it a sex dungeon. I
don't know, but I'm like, now that's history, Like why
aren't we teaching kids that kind of history?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I don't mean it
to sound because it's salacious. Yes it is. It sounds
easy to put on a test ABC or dmultiple choice,
that type of stuff. I'd probably remember, no, but it's
it is salacious.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it sort of gets you
interested and it makes you realize that all the people
we learn about in history are people. They did things. Yes,
some of it good, some of it not so good.
Some of it went against the grain of marl society,
and some not. You know, you didn't you never learned
in school that Ben Franklin got herpes or syphilis or
whatever he got over in France because he was over
there banging the ladies all the time. You didn't learn that.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't learn about Abra.
Speaker 1: Lincoln being told the uh, some guy he lived with
for a number of years prior to I think even
being married.
Speaker 2: You said, uh, yeah, he had a great ass. He
didn't learn that, in fact past that Lincoln actually slept
with a dude routinely. That's the guy. Back then they
had to like share beds and stuff. That's the guy.
Well that's how that's what That's what they would have
you believe he was John Wilson. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, there's some who say he violated more of the
Constitution by you know, overriding Congress and sending money for
you know, making more money for the war and all this,
that he could have been impeached.
Speaker 2: Wasn't, But he could have been. I mean, the guy
his successor was yeah, Andrew Johnson was, but yeah, holy cow,
that's that's pretty about.
Speaker 1: It's just the scrotum and they and the people who
went into the sex things, they were swingers. He went
in his swingers. Could you imagine? Hey, listen, Dan, we
got a mission for you. You got to go to New
York City.
Speaker 2: You may have to poke a few holes literally, and
then I mean that would be weird, right, But what
a life. There was a movie that came out in
two thousand and two or two thousand and three. I
don't know if it was based on Chuck Woollery or
some game show hosts who they said may or may
not have doubled as a CIA agent as a spy.
And I forgot that Jeremy Piven played the guy. Julia
Roberts was in the movie. It did, It didn't do
real well in the box office, but it was fascinating. Really.
I forgot the name of the freaking movie. But it
was about like, like the idea is like, did did
Chuck Woolerry or whoever this guy was? I forgot the
name of the talk show host or the game show host?
Did he was he really a double agent? Was he
really a spy? And he happened to be a game
show host too at the same time. And I think
the guy was still alive when they made the movie.
But all that stuff is.
Speaker 1: Fascinating, is see that stuff is And I think that
one of the kids to learn, well learn. That's all
I'm saying is, if you could spice it up a
little bit, Yeah, spice it up a little bit, I
think you would have a greater interest in things of
history and what we have to remember whenever you go back,
if you're helping a kid with homework, if you got
a brother or sister or somebody who's got the people
that are running abound were people that's not their entire life. No,
they had a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had families. Yeah, look at Charles carlt O. Good.
Charles was confused. I think it was on the road
with charge. He saw he was on the road so much.
He had two different families. They didn't know at a
double life. It could have been a great spy.
Speaker 1: Fucking amazing, Oh fucking amazing.
Speaker 2: And I'm your dabdy and grandfather. We will take a moment. Uh.
Speaker 1: What an unraveling by the jets, Oh, what an unraveling
by the Jets. We will get into the worst year.
Speaker 2: The Jets are a certain airline where they go, Oh,
certain airline, plane company. It's been having problems with crashes
for the past. Remember like earlier in the year, doors
were falling off planes. Yeah, yeah, had a worst year
the Jets or the Bowie Jets. That's a good point.
We'll get into.
Speaker 1: Uh that Danny's got thoughts I've thought. Uh, and a
couple of tributes as well. Get to all that right
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Speaker 4: I've been hang an all. I've been sleeping alone.
Speaker 2: Did anybody else catch this on? Did she catch it?
Turn the game? Well? Jim Natz will say it. I
was like.
Speaker 1: Ford, like fucking Ford.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: They had just done this thing about Greg Gumble. Greg
Gumble like a good three minutes. Yeah, and he had
He passed away seventy eight years old cancer.
Speaker 2: He was an announcer for CBS for like forty years.
For a long time.
Speaker 1: And uh, and when you think about it, we talk
about brothers making it to the NFL, these are two
brothers who made it to the two network, right. Bryant
is his brother Today show anchor for many many years,
considered a great interviewer. And then Greg, who I really
enjoyed Greg. I remember Greg doing Olympic games and uh.
I think he was like fifty years He may have
been the first black broadcaster in a booth calling an
NFL game.
Speaker 2: Not his brother, because his brother used to call Greg. No,
I know. I think Greg was the first call it
a trailblazer.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess they said that today or I
heard that in some way. But I mean he did
the NBA, Major League Baseball, the Olympics, I think, two
Super Bowls, all that stuff. Then all of a sudden,
they're coming back from break and they're playing Miss You,
and it's you know.
Speaker 2: I thought they were going into a break with miss You,
but yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, I think they were coming back and Nance
goes the Rolling Stones miss You and we will Greg.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, it was like a cheesy radio.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like what. I don't know where I was.
That's someone that's something that a dumb guy thinks is
clever when he comes back from a break.
Speaker 1: Okay, but hang on, hang on, hang on, I hear you.
I see where you're going. But was this Nance's choice.
I don't think it was.
Speaker 2: It may have been, it may not have been. I
thought it was alluding to the fact that was a
big Stones fan. Oh, I didn't know that. Maybe I
don't know because that's where I got form, because why
would you come back with.
Speaker 1: You read it into it for wor Yeah, okay, so
like okay, I'm I don't know where I was in
my place, but I.
Speaker 2: Immediately thought of you too. I heard Billy's gonna Billy's
gonnaic this.
Speaker 1: I gotta Niitpicket because I hear miss you from the
stones and I was talking and then I turned and
I go, wait what and I and I all I
heard was miss you. Won't miss you Greg, And I
think I burst out, like and they may have been
going to break. I don't know they're going to break.
Speaker 2: We will miss you, Greg, we will miss you because
they did like three minutes. Yeah, but I talk about
Greg Gumble.
Speaker 1: See, Okay, So here's how I'm remembering it, and I
may be misremembering it. I thought they did a three
minute thing on Greg Gumble somewhere in like the middle
of the broadcast, like maybe there was a player down
or whatever they.
Speaker 2: Did was in the first quarter and or maybe between quarters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then all of a sudden either go two
break but separated from that three minute conversation completely separate,
so your mind is back on the game. You're not
thinking and and nobody should think this.
Speaker 2: Uh. When you die, you know, most people remember you. Uh,
then they go to the church.
Speaker 1: Then they have like some little gathering afterwards, and you're
forgotten because they're already thinking about what they have to
do tomorrow or what they're gonna feed their kids tonight
or whatever. Because life is for the living. And I
don't mean that to be cold. That just is the
way it is. So as we're watching the game, I
think very few people were then thinking of Greg Gumbel.
We're back on the game, We're focused on the game.
And then they play them miss You, and I don't
like what he tied it in.
Speaker 2: Is said this is we will miss you? What the
porto ric No, that's wrong tell you anyway.
Speaker 1: I just I was I don't know if flabbergasted is
the right term, but I.
Speaker 2: Was kind of surprised they were they were up with that.
I would sue because that song is not about you know, death, like,
but then again, what are you gonna play funeral for
a friend? Well? No, but why playing anything at all?
You don't have to play a three minute thing, And
that's what I'm saying, this is what a dub guy thinks.
He's thinking a smart idea. And by the way, having
been that dumb guy before, I've done something stupid like that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I have.
Speaker 2: I don't know when specific I.
Speaker 1: Don't know why you would play Stones Miss You, not
the most upbeat song during the NFL NFL game, but
it cut through, grabbed my ears immediately went huh and
and and then I hear the rolling Stones. God choice.
So I'm going was that a producer in a truck
somewhere had to be oh yeah, And so now Nancy's
is left home in this bag of steaming that ship,
and you've.
Speaker 2: Got to try to figure that's what I'm thinking of.
I think he's too smart rowing Casey case and flipped
out that famous track. Everybody talks about that, but you've
never heard any other clip of Casey case And flipping
outs the only.
Speaker 1: One I wonder. I know many, but there was one
about a letter that he got from something.
Speaker 2: But think think about over the course of his fifty
year radio career, there's only a few ins because they
recorded everything, right, there's only a handful of incents. I wonder,
because there's one about Chris Berman from from like twenty
years ago on ABC at halftime, and then when you
sit there and you put yourself in Berman's shoes, you
can understand why he flipped out. I wonder if nance,
who's a gentleman of a guy much like Gumble is,
or was guys really really then we have to bump
with that. This is where I could see like the
cooler head in the room being the announcer going, really,
you put me in that position because everybody looks at me.
I'm the guy with the microphone. I gotta talk us
down from the legend.
Speaker 1: I got it, turn around and go, hey, all right,
well man, we'll miss you Greg.
Speaker 2: I'm sure then Tony, we will miss you Greg.
Speaker 1: Because he's got to talk over everything.
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think I could see I
could see him doing that. Speaking of Casey casem just
because he brought it up.
Speaker 6: Will begin this Sunday afternoon at one right here on
the radio station you grew up with, music Radio one,
three eight.
Speaker 2: All fuck fucking E's going on here? Isn't it the
last hour?
Speaker 5: We got another hour to do, she says, though we're
almost finished. Good golly, miss molly boy, this fucking ponderous man, ponderous,
fucking ponderous. Hi.
Speaker 6: This is Casey American Top forty is moved to a
new time. I hope you'll join me this Saturday morning
and every Saturday morning at two two.
Speaker 1: We're up to.
Speaker 6: Our long distance dedication and this one is about kids
and pets and the situation that we can all understand
whether we have kids or pets or neither. It's from
a man in Cincinnati, Ohio, and here's what he writes,
Dear Casey, this may seem to be a strange dedication request,
but I'm quite sincere and it'll need a lot if
you play it. Recently, there was a death in our family.
He was a little dog named Snuggles. But he was
most certainly a part of Let's come start again from
coming out of the record, play the record.
Speaker 2: Okay, please.
Speaker 1: Now, sorry to think about it ruminating here it comes.
Speaker 6: When you come out of those up temple. Goddamn numbers. Man,
it's impossible to make those transitions, and then you got
to go into somebody dying.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: They do this to me all the time. I don't
know what the hell they do it for, but goddamn it.
If we can't come out of a slow record, I
don't understand it.
Speaker 2: It's down on the phone.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: I want a goddamn concerted effort to come out of
a record that isn't a fucking up tempo record. Every
time I do a goddamn depth dedication, now make it.
And I also want to know what happened to the
pictures I was supposed to see this week. It's a
god last goddamn time. I want somebody to use his
fucking brain to not come out of a goddamn record
that is uh, that's uptempo. And I got to talk
about a fucking dog dying and.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's how I can see Nance.
Speaker 2: I could see, Yeah, I could see a situation where
because you're in the moment, you're trying to be a professional,
and then that throws you.
Speaker 1: What if Nance, all of a sudden, whose idea was
just play you this cheesy ass song? Greg was so
much better than that, Greg Gumble, everybody like that would
have that would have really appreciated.
Speaker 2: So I just cringed. It just grabbed my ears and
I was like, so when I when I worked in
w h AM, there was a talk show we were doing,
and the producer actually had a special file of slow
tempo songs to go in or come out of sad stories. Yeah,
because he didn't want that situation that happened on the
air with this particular host.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I couldn't. I couldn't understand that. But
this is uh casey casem If you ever wonder did
he sound the same off the airs on the air,
that's pretty close.
Speaker 2: It's pretty close. But with gumbleman, I gotta tell you,
how many people in life have you ever heard nothing
but when they die they say a holes never die.
But this dude, genuinely you never heard a bad thing
about him ever. No, just a wonderful guy, and people
weren't just like when people passed they say, hey, we're
you know, so and so bad as the way they
give it a mention. People went out of their way,
and I mean many people went out of their way
this past week to talk about Greg Gumble and when
he meant to people. I would love to say at
the end of my life that I lived or have
people to be believed that I lived a life like that?
Well you did, would I didn't. I didn't. You're probably right,
But man, isn't that awesome that live a life like
that where people go out of the way to talk
about how much help miss you, would love you and
respected you. I hope that I've got your funeral.
Speaker 1: He wanted so badly, so badly to be remembered like
Greg Gumble. Can we play Gumbles comments when he died
back in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: Can we do that?
Speaker 1: And Dan wanted that anybody anyway got anything.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't think that. All right, consider you're ten
years older than me. That's not good.
Speaker 1: But no, it is not good. Former President Jimmy Carter
passed away today. Oh we did one hundred. Wow, made
it to one hundred. The reason I bring this up
probably had a bigger impact. I feel like after his
presidency then in his presidency he was a one term president.
Left the White House. I think he was fifty six
years old and he was married for seventy seven years.
Seventy seven years. It's amazing to me.
Speaker 2: Diamond anniversary. What's a diamond? Twenty five is silver, fifty
is gold, seventy five is diamond. You never heard that
the diamond he made a seventy seven years of Barritte.
That's almost a possible.
Speaker 1: There's only so many things I can remember, and I
knew I wasn't getting seither one of those.
Speaker 2: Markers in the marriage. No, I'm kidding. I did not
going with that. I've had two shots at it. I'm
not going to so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he but I mean he went on for a
while there.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: The longest living former president in US history, outlasting Georgia HW.
Bush as the nation's oldest president, who he died in
twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: And then you know, he did all this. I always
love the Habitat for Humanity about the sneeze excuse.
Speaker 1: Me, Habitat for humanity because he to me, that was
just such a great thing that he was part of
because you had sweat equity in it. But I will
tell you the one of the reasons I bring this
up is do you want to live to.
Speaker 2: Be one hundred? Depends on how healthy.
Speaker 1: Are Okay, that's a great point, because because where are
my exits going to Jesus?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to really make it worth my while
to live to be one hundred. Here's my thing, Dan,
the Bills will win a Super Bowl when you're ninety eight.
I think everybody. I think all dogs go to heaven. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think in a way, you leave here and all
that resistance is gone, and you you're here for a purpose.
There's contrast, there's things you got to learn. I don't
know what it is, but you know, everybody different. However,
So to me, I'm not I'm not faced with it today.
But I don't have a fear of dying or as
I would call it, transitioning. However, I have a fear
in this body to be living to a certain age,
being cognitive and not being able to be fully functional,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like I'll hear about like constant suffering, like it sucks
to be awake. Well, let me go through this, okay.
Speaker 1: Carter remained remarkably active in charitable causes through a series
of health challenges during his final years, including about with
brain cancer in twenty fifteen. That's almost a decade ago.
It's almost a decade.
Speaker 2: It's a long time.
Speaker 1: A rite cancer now, I don't know. With brain cancer,
it's usually sounds like that's it. I think our friend
JT it hit his brain, and I think, but most
of the time I would think that that is more
or less a death sentence. I don't know if presidents
get better care. I have no idea. He was admitted
to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta in November twenty nineteen
for a procedure to relieve pressure on his brain consequence
of bleeding that followed a series of falls. Doesn't sound
like getting all this fun. You had bleeding on the brain.
You had a couple of falls. A few months earlier May,
he had undergone surgery after breaking his hip.
Speaker 2: You go, okay, you I get it.
Speaker 1: We all this is all we know, necessarily, or all
we think we know, and so it's scary to leave.
I think, Uh, who was it? Who did all the
all the family and stuff are no, No, Carol O'Connor. No,
the guy who wrote it I just died, Yeah, as
one hundred, and his big thing was I just don't
want to leave.
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave here. I like it. It's
the guy who had a good line, the creator, his name,
I can see his name, can't say it. We're getting old.
Speaker 1: This might be happening. But I go, it sounds horrible.
You broke a hip, you had brain cancer. Did you
survived at all? But what's your quality of life? After that,
I don't know. I don't, I really don't know.
Speaker 2: It makes you I go, what the hell is happening? Right?
And is it worth living to be one hundred? Now?
Speaker 1: Somebody I think my mom was telling me about some
friend of hers. The mother is one hundred and seven
and still lives on her own. And you go, that's remarkable.
But is it worth it?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Depends on how active you are, and well,
if you're able to live your life. I mean, I
have a grandmother right now who's ninety six. Yeah, my
grandmother lives. She goes, I can check out any day now, Yeah,
and then she forgot that. She said that the day before.
I'm not making that up. I mean, that's just how
it is. Yeah. I have a guy who was in
a band with his parents are both still married, still alive,
and they're late eighties. They go, yeah, I can check
out at any time. I don't care. Yeah, they're at
that point in their lives right, you know, So you
have to wonder. And the other thing too, is like,
would you rather go out at eighty eight years old
at a blazer glory or would you rather like you know,
you know, I don't know, live it out and look everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, there are those that believe you you sign
a contract to come here and your date of exit
is already predetermined, and you know you and God made
this deal.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: There are people who will say things like that put
all the suffering. And then there are people who say,
it's kind of like childbirth. You don't remember the suffering
after you get to the other side. Okay, so I
don't know.
Speaker 2: It depends on which side you're on. Yeah, I mean
I could see that. Yeah, I mean it's what I
remember my father when he was dying in the hospital.
The doctors and the nurses worked really hard to say, hey, look,
you know you're an end stages. You know where you're at.
It goes, oh yeah, he goes, you want to sign
these DNR papers. Here's why. And they worded it a
certain way because you don't want a twenty year old
kid pounded on your chest only for you to like
live a few more days in agony. You know what
I'm saying. It's at what point do you you know?
You have to like and it's a fine line between like,
am I living or am I dying? Like I had
a Knuckle who had emphysema, and if you can't breathe,
it's the worst life. It's one of the worst lives possible.
And I would text him when he uh, like was
about fifteen years ago. I go, hey, uncle Vito, how
you doing. He goes, I'm just sitting in God's waiting room. Yeah,
he wasn't that old. He smoked unfiltered Carlton's his entire life.
He was twelve years old.
Speaker 1: And it becomes like where it's almost painful to stay
alive at his daughter and that's the suffering.
Speaker 2: That's like at his daughter's wedding again, to get up
out of the out of the wheelchair to dance with
her for a song. After thirty seconds, he had to
go back and sit down and get get his breath.
I mean, I can't imagine wanting to live like that. No,
I can't. You know, it's hard, It's it's very hard.
And in Carter's case, I saw a picture of about
a month ago and it was like any day now, yeah,
you men.
Speaker 1: And he was in hospice and had been there for
a while. But still my only question with this is
did great humanitarian work? Yeah, I'm not so sure. On
his presidency. I think he was in uh you know,
different times.
Speaker 2: But he is a micro manager from what I've read, Yeah,
I wasn't.
Speaker 1: There did a lot of great stuff after that. I'm
more aware of. Yeah, and I'm more aware of and
live to be one hundred. Impressive.
Speaker 2: We go, ay, now there's a run.
Speaker 1: Then you hear about the brain cancer, the falls, the
brain bleeds, the broken hip, the surgery.
Speaker 2: You're like, nah, I don't know. I'm not I'm just
not sure. I don't know what it is. Because we
look at people who live to be one hundred. There's
a whole thing.
Speaker 1: There's a whole series on Netflix where you you know,
get the Octagenarian or that's eighty, the Centurian Diet or whatever.
Speaker 2: They were calling it. Blue zones. Yeah, blue zones, blue zones.
That's right.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, it doesn't mean you're going to
live to that. But most of these people had their faculties,
they exercised every day. We sit, Yeah, we sit, man,
we sit in this.
Speaker 2: Like when you hear about the diets and how the
Diet America diets killing us. I talk about I think
about a those old people. They say, well, you know,
the alzheimer is now considered type three diabetes. The thing
that the difference is you're not gonna get it when
you're eighty. You might get it when you're sixty instead.
Yeah you might. You might not live to see Alzheimer's
because you might die sooner because of our diet. Right. Yeah,
you know, we may not get to that age. But
when you get to that age, at least you know
you've had enough life to live where Okay, I'm satisfied
I could check out in a time. Not oh man,
just give me a few more years to fight, you know.
I mean, you hear about stories all the time of
people who like, have exercised their whole lives and they
end up with cancer and dining at a young age.
And then there's people who did nothing and end up
living to be one hundred. Yeah, you know, so there's
no real full proof way of doing it.
Speaker 1: There isn't the genetics.
Speaker 2: And yeah, like old people like your your grandparents, my grandparents,
they didn't have all this processed food until we got it. Yeah,
you know, so for years they were eating healthy. Did
that mean they live longer? Maybe? Maybe? Maybe not?
Speaker 1: Well, if you look back, because they're all dying in
the same stock talk about diet. Look back at like
pictures of I'm trying to think, go back to the seventies. Yeah,
go back to the seventies, go back to Woodstock late
sixty nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't say anybody six hundred pounds life.
Speaker 1: For there was no fat people there. They were not
They could dance, they Yeah, But what I'm saying is like,
there was not I don't remember any fat people. Wavy
Gravy might have been a little big, he was an MC.
But I'm like, boy, if you look in that, no
one there was fat, and no one was in ripped shape.
Speaker 2: They didn't look like they worked out all. They looked normal.
Like Marilyn Monroe. Yeah, she wasn't anarexic. She looked like
a regular woman. She was. She was beautiful, don't get
me wrong, but she was a little pin up, kind
of plump. But I say that people get mad.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about like, if you look especially Woodstock,
it's younger people, and you look at younger people today
and they are man.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a there's a divide. There's the healthy young
athletes and girls, and then you have your have your
set obese.
Speaker 1: Well I think it's like we've made food so tasty,
like I've found this out right, Oh with jameson Living
with Me. You you open a bag of chips and
all of a sudden you have a couple, and then
it's almost you're craving.
Speaker 2: Whatever that is modified to.
Speaker 1: He likes the dill pickle, laised dill pickle chips or something.
Speaker 2: I'll get those.
Speaker 1: He likes this hour, the oil and vinegar whatever they are,
and I'll AsSalt vinegar. I'll grab those and I once
I start, it's like, man, I got to my brain.
And then if I'm eating late at night after the podcast,
that's when I'm I'm putting it all on. And I
gotta tell you, man, I am tipping at a scale
number I never thought i'd see. I mean, I thought
I'd never see numbers that I blew past.
Speaker 2: Already.
Speaker 1: I blew past them like they were the fucking jets
on that scale.
Speaker 2: It was nuts. It's hard because food has now been
modified since the since the eighties and nineties. Philip Morriska,
how can we make food? But see, here's the thing
you can choose to eat, but we always chicken. What's tasty?
Oreos A tasty and what's tasty.
Speaker 1: Standing with Brian Gionta and talking about nutrition and stuff that,
you know how much that changed and how over his
career it became a bigger focus. And he'll look at
his kids and he said, grab a sleeve of oreos
and he goes, I think you have no idea.
Speaker 2: What you're doing to your body. And I'm like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, just the way he said it and everything,
and it's like, yeah, and I want to say that
to my kid.
Speaker 2: And then I take a handful and yeah, it's hard.
It's hard. It's freaking I always believe there's a price
to pay for everything, and that's including being an American everything.
Think about we have so much. Yes, we have everything,
but we also are more miserable. We have shorter lives. Yeah,
we you know, our education is down, our suicide rates
are up, death by because it's the gratification. It's the gratification.
We look over our shoulders and we try and we
compare ourselves and we become more miserable. We have easy
we would instead of eating vegetables, instead of eating fruits,
instead of eating the staying out of the aisles where
we go seven oreos.
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me show there's somebody sent or not somebody
the group that I refer to as I refer to
as my elder counsel. Forgive me. I was going to
look for this text and I see that I have
a flood of text here. Dear Bill, Why did they
all come in at once? It gotta be a goddamn
text today.
Speaker 2: That was that was me back in the day. Why
do we have to share with three other radio stations.
This is fucking ridiculous. We did so we got her,
We got her text line well, and and as we should.
I mean I I I think I was. I think
I was us. I think I was a trailblazer because
I fought back and I could write a whole book. Well,
please do write the enter Colm the autoimmune disease of
radio stations. That's not nice. The uh clear channel too.
Let me see.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm trying to it's somebody that I think you
would know.
Speaker 2: Is their name end an Esquire?
Speaker 1: No, it does not end an Esquire. But of course
now I'm not going to be able to find it
because I want to find it. You ever have one
of those? Yeah, of course, yeah, And it was uh
I'll find it turned the break, But it was about happiness.
Speaker 2: The podcast was about happiness.
Speaker 1: And it had some woman from Yale and then the
guy who hosted I think it's called Hubert Labs.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Huberman, Andrew Huberman, doctor Hubert. I love Andrew Huberman.
I knew he was to see, did I not? Yes?
Speaker 1: No, that Danny would know who this was. Andrew Huberman.
I'm not familiar with Andrew Huberman.
Speaker 2: A Stanford he's a Stanford. Is he a psychologist? Yeah,
he's a psychology Okay, so not a psychologist, but he's
a study of the brain and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Their whole thing was on happiness and the you know
how we pursue happiness and a lot of it. It's
the ship that I have spewed out on this podcast.
And again I'll always say easy to say, harder to do.
You know what others think of you as none of
your business, that sort of stuff, right, because that truly
will keep you happy. But as this woman was saying, look,
I mean, if you know, we want to say that
money is happiness, she goes. But if you if at
all it is is the pursuit of money, and you
have fifty million dollars and you're looking at your friends
who have a billion dollars. That makes you less happy
because you're looking at money in a certain way, right,
And it's all a mindset, but it was it's interesting.
And they talked a lot about phones and kids and
that the instant gratification thing that you said, I've heard
my entire life because we got the microwave.
Speaker 2: It's the microwave generation, instant gratification. And yes, but that
was step one.
Speaker 1: That was okay, But now I go, okay, so what
what's the difference now? And I think the difference now
is you've got this thing right here in your hand,
and you can, you know, just go go go on it,
you know what I mean. And you can see a
ton of stuff. You can learn things, but you can
also see things that will bother you, that hook you,
that scroll things don't get done, you lose your motivation.
There's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: In this podcast, they talked about having kids or people
and maybe not kids do a math test with their
phones in another room versus having their phones in the room.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like at their table and this they allowed
to touch the phone while they're in the room. I
don't know, because that's important because where I'm going.
Speaker 1: But I think their scores according to this podcast, and
again I wish I knew I was even going to
talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's how prepared I am for today.
Speaker 1: The scores were up ten points on average, ten points
higher when the phones were out of the room versus
the phones being in the room, and all that. A
lot of it. I think it's the anticipation of a call,
a text, a whatever coming in and how communication really
is in text, and that you're better off having face
to face and what that really does, and loneliness and
introverts versus extroverts and all kinds of things. Pressure, And
I thought, wow, you know, is it.
Speaker 2: The phones out of the room. You're not worried about
it goes no, no, yeah, you're just focused on the
test exactly, but with the phones next to you, and
you can't answer it. Well, look, gosh, who's that is that?
My boss?
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, twenty twenty four was not an
easy year for me.
Speaker 2: Just wasn't. No, And I can understand that what I
don't know, Yeah, I believe me, I said. Next year,
I could fucking tell I don't know I didn't think.
I thought. I don't think I went on about anything.
Did I know?
Speaker 1: It wasn't an easy year. There was a lot of change,
it just wasn't an easy year.
Speaker 2: Well, one of my thoughts that I'm going to get
through later is about that.
Speaker 1: But I would say that one of the things that
we do is we look at everything at once and
all the stuff you gotta do, and it almost paralyzes you.
And that part of your happiness is I think if
you can really learn to be present in the moment
you're in because that's all you truly have, and just
focus on that, everything goes better. Because there are a
lot of times like I panic about the podcast and
I go, just be present.
Speaker 2: I used to write that on the top of the
page when.
Speaker 1: We did the Morning show, be present, and I think,
I'm sure I was mocked behind my back, but I
didn't care because I just thought, be in the moment.
Remind yourself to be in the moment. Now I would laugh.
Speaker 2: If I got a tattoo here be present.
Speaker 1: But there are times we do forget and we're thinking
of nine other things. And if you just focus on this,
make a list of the shit you have to do
and then schedule it.
Speaker 2: I have gone the.
Speaker 1: Latter part of the year, gone to literally scheduling my
day right down to when I'm gonna hang out with people, right,
because I do think that that helps in this part
of your happiness, that you almost have to schedule time
to go to Montconer's. And I know that sounds silly,
but it and then there's a beginning and an end
and you're not losing your mind, and.
Speaker 2: You make it a reward. If I get this done,
I get to go to Montconnery's at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: But I mean, well, there's so many things right like
website building and invoicing and all these other things and
getting ready and other podcasts and projects, and that you
can be overwhelmed by it or you can just be
in the moment, take time, make it your moment to
schedule it out and figure it out, and you can
get through it.
Speaker 2: I think twenty twenty five. I'm so excited for twenty two.
So there's a friend of mine who gave me this
great book for Christmas. His name is Bill Moran, and
I read it. You did something I read it to
and it don't believe everything you think or something like that.
That's exactly the main crux of the books is this acronym.
It's called pause pau se. How does it start with
the p? Pause? Take a deep breath every time you
have one of those anxious thoughts. Pause, take a deep breath.
Ground yourself. Where are you right now? I'm in a
chair sitting with Bill Moran having a conversation. Yeah, okay,
I can feel my butt to the chair warm and
cure something warm. Someone's vest is making extra heat electronic
fest Then he ask yourself, Dan, do you enjoy suffering?
Ask yourself that question? Is that what they say in
the book? Because the state the churn? Do you enjoy
when these thoughts come go? Oh my gosh, do you
enjoy that? No, of course not. You understand you don't
have to live like this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you? S? Did you say to yourself? Oh this
is it? Okay? What is pauuse?
Speaker 1: A is?
Speaker 2: Ask yourself?
Speaker 1: Ask yourself?
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy suffering? Understand you? Okay, you don't have
to do this anymore. You don't have to endure this.
S say to yourself. Thinking is the root of all suffering.
I'm not talking about thinking in a red light. You
have to go, I'm not talking about thinking about your taxes.
I'm talking about out when you're doing your taxes. Ask
your thinking is the root of all suffering. Thinking is
the root of all sufferings. That's what he says in
the book exactly. And then what is the emotion? Don't judge?
Think about the emotion you're in right now, and don't judge.
Just go, yeah, how am I feeling? How am I feeling?
Hard to do sort of step back? Yeah, oh wow,
step back and understand thinking is the root of all sufferings.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do this.
Speaker 2: Did you find the book dumb?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: For you. I didn't find it. Help that I kept
going to like keep reading to the next chapter. Now
there are others. There are other techniques in the book
that you could use, and you have to go over those.
But like when you have O c D like I do,
or intrusive thought, not the kind where you have to
clean something a hundred times, but the same. But you
have to remind yourself you don't have to believe everything
in your brain not to bring it to a Christian principle.
And I thought of this today in church. Actually, you
can't treat your brain like an idol. In other words,
I know what I'm thinking. Yeah, I have. Every thought
in my head is pure and it's gold and it's awesome.
I am the best I am. But that's how we
think of Braine. So that's our guide. Right. You don't
have to believe every thought that comes into your.
Speaker 1: Head, no, because and some of it would even go
to the ability I'm not good enough, I'm not worthy.
It's not even thought.
Speaker 2: You're thinking, just like things that came from a movie.
Speaker 1: To it why, yeah, right? And it is it takes
a lot. That's a very Buddhist kind of philosophy. It is,
which is.
Speaker 2: Not what to think about. To bring it back to
for me, Christ he was always present, Yes, Jesus was
always present. Right. And the book is great. It's a
I think a quick read it is, and it's an
easy read. It's not a hard read. I'll just say this.
Speaker 1: My mother read it and then over the break we
were all together Christmas, she said to me, I had
to rely heavily on that book. Today, I'm sure there
was something going on, and she's like, I had to
rely heavily. But the thing is, like, I haven't read
the book, and I don't I'll just tell you how
this happened.
Speaker 2: I was looking for a book for you.
Speaker 1: It came up when I had the specific book down there,
and I go, oh, that's the book I need to get.
Speaker 2: So did I tell you this story kind of? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then how I went to the elder Council meeting
with doctor Rob Rice and he goes to the other room.
And my plan was I was leaving there and I
was going to buy that book, but it wasn't available. No,
I couldn't remember the name of hard copy. No, there's no,
there's no, there's no paper copies. Well, paperbacks were because
it was self published, okay, and then it did so
well a publisher picked it up and now it's hard copy.
I didn't care one way or the other. I just
knew I didn't have enough time to order it online,
and I figured it had to be at Marnes and Noble.
So but I couldn't remember the name of it. Rob's
talking about something completely. Rob just wrote a book, doctor
Rob Rice. I want to have him back in. It's
called cliff Notes. It's Paul. Yeah, it's really interesting. No,
it's not what you think. They have a version of
cliff I'm just going to give you this. Imagine hiking
with your two daughters, your wife and another couple and
your dog, and your dog runs off ahead and somehow
falls off the side of a cliff but lands on
the ledge. And then after the ledge, all it is
is five hundred feet of nothing and then treetops and
it's a probably about a two foot ledge and Rob
went down to save the dog. And doctor Rice is
also a diabetic, and yeah, it's an unbelievable, unbelievable read.
But what he's saying is how did I survive that?
What other things are going on in the universe that
are protecting us?
Speaker 2: Right? God whatever?
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. And he said, hey, this book helped
me write my book.
Speaker 2: And I go, oh my god, that's the book. That's
the book I.
Speaker 1: Want to get Dan Burillo. He goes, oh, I or
give this one to Dan. I go, no, no, no,
I got to buy it.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: I was literally my plan was to leave your house today,
go to Barnes and Noble and buy that book. And
I went and I bought three copies of the book.
I gave one to my son, one to my mother,
and one to you.
Speaker 2: What's the common theme here?
Speaker 1: It's well the common I don't know that there's a
common theme. I I just I knew what the book
was going to be about. I did not read the book,
but I knew what it was going to be about
just in the thing, and I knew from the discussion.
Speaker 2: And then when Rob with the book out, I go, absolutely,
I gotta get it.
Speaker 1: It was I don't believe there's any coincidences in life.
Speaker 2: I know that we all go Man, that was serendipity. Well,
as I would say in the Bible, everything works together
for the glory of God.
Speaker 1: Yes, So if you find use in that, oh yeah,
that's great.
Speaker 2: And I'll say this for everybody who thinks, well, Dan,
like you know, like I have my thoughts, you know,
I get stuck in my thoughts, like what am I
supposed to do? Ask yourself this question. Have you ever
forced a dream when you're sleeping? Have you ever forced
a dream? Never your dreams dream? So those are thoughts
that you're not consciously thinking. So you mean to tell
me during the day that can't happen. Either, give yourself
a break, Yes, give yourself a break, because I know
there's other people out there who have dealt with what
I have dealt with since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a terrible athlete. You know what it
made it worse?
Speaker 2: Anxiety, strout, a stroke cut, We're gonna get hit by
a pitch.
Speaker 1: This guy through seventy five, which, by.
Speaker 2: The way, when you're a little league, seventy five is
like one hundred and ten ohive. I got hit in
the back once by a kidnamed Grant Saunders.
Speaker 1: He didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: Never I was bad. I got worse from that point
forward because I was afraid to step in the batter's box.
Don't hit it to me, don't hit it to me,
don't hit it to me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Right, we'll get Danny's thoughts on the Bills game.
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Speaker 1: Uh Danny has thoughts, and I know he's got thoughts
about Prapa.
Speaker 2: The greatest unraveling I have seen in the NFL.
Speaker 1: The Jets.
Speaker 2: You Kevin always say that's the Jets.
Speaker 1: The Jets are the Jets.
Speaker 2: I will recommend something to you since you read the book,
and I will. I don't know if you will agree
to do this. Let's talk about acronyms. JETS stands for
just end the season.
Speaker 1: Watch Enigma, which I think somebody called it enema this morning.
I think someone on ESPN, NFL Countdown or CBS NFL
whatever referred to it as enema. I think it was
probably CBS because they were leading into the Jets game,
and I think I don't know who, but I I
don't know if they I don't know if they misspoke
or what.
Speaker 2: But they said.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I watched this movie. It's a Enigma.
Speaker 1: It's a three part docuseries on Aaron Rodgers from Netflix. Yeah, okay,
and I have not seen it. I've I really liked it. Oh,
I would love for you to watch it because I
know you're not a fan of him. I'm not, and
I would love to just see because I do believe
that you have the ability to go into things with
an open mind.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do. I know. I know that, and
I'm not saying that to be but sometimes it's hard
for people. Right. People on the show don't think I
have that open mind, but I do.
Speaker 3: I know you do.
Speaker 1: So I would love for you because I would love
to see does this change your perspective on him in
any way?
Speaker 2: In any way I want to find out. I don't know.
I'm sure it will give me a different point of
view on him, yeah, or a it'll shift my point
of view on him. But because he grew up in
a Christian home and he yes, and he walked away,
yes from face entire Yes. Yes, they talk about that. Yes,
And I've always wanted to know the reason.
Speaker 1: Why does he because he felt like it was too
restrictive and somewhat he didn't believe. He felt like there
was that's the point more to life than that and
what they were, what he was being told, and that
this can't possibly be the rules certain ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that. I've heard people say, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's fine, but I would just just to see, because
I mean, it goes into ayahuasca and there's a Buffalo
Bill's player who went to an ayahuasca ceremony with him
down in Costa Rica, Okay, named Jordan Boyer.
Speaker 2: I believe that they yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, it's just interesting. However, I have to
say the Bills seemed to dodge a few bullets in
that first half, did they not.
Speaker 2: It was a continuation of the Patriots game if you
think about it. Oh yeah. Now, first things first, the defense,
which I've always harped on. Okay, the defense actually has
played pretty well. Now. Last week, if they would have
gone up against the better quarterback, they would have lost
in New England period. Yeah. You know, the Patriots offense
outscored the Bills offense last week. Okay, but the defense,
with all of its substitutes on the back end of
the secondary, bailed them out. They bailed the Bills out
this week. The that's what a bend but don't break
defense is supposed to look like. Ye, you give them
all the yards between the twenties, but then you'll get
the takeaway, you'll get the turnover. And they were able
to do that, and the Bills were able to capitalize,
but it was clunky. They had a few penalties, The
Jets had some penalties. The Bills had a second and seventeen.
The Jets get a holding, which is the worst time
to ever get a holding. Because you're giving him an automatic.
Speaker 1: First man out. There were some that really felt like
they they dodged a few bullets.
Speaker 2: They did dodge a few bullets because the Jets were
But that's Rogers, though, I give up. That's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a Bayler.
Speaker 2: But he didn't seem to bail. But I don't know.
I lost.
Speaker 1: I mean once it was like forty something, and then
even though they scored some points.
Speaker 2: He had a wide open touchdown that he had a
horrible throat to to the tight end. Yeah, and that's
where he came unraveled. He looks up and throws his
arms up, and then on the next play they can't
get the fourth and one. The Bill stuffed Breese Hall
and he looks at the sidelines with his adds up
like that my fault. Yeah, that's where the Bills took over.
They got in his head. By the way, Aaron Roddy,
as bad as the Bills were for most of his career,
he never beat the Bills in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Interesting at one time, and there were times today I
thought he looked really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the point where it's sort of made men
to give somebody an idea next year. You know what
I could fix Aaron Rodgers. You don't think that he'll
be with the Jets?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Jets have much choice with all
the money they're paying him. I think I think he
wants to be there. I don't think what he wants them,
But like again, you got to look at your options.
Who's taking him for what? And does Aaron want to
go there? See, Aaron's got probably this. I think he
might have a no trade clause. I think they're stuck
with Aaron.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting because clearly the Jets are gonna
need new coaches and it's gonna have to be somebody
that Aaron likes. So either they got to get rid
of everybody and start over, or they got to keep Aaron,
bringing a head coach that's compatible with Aaron. I mean,
it's it's there's a lot there. And if you ever
want to get like good Jets gossip, Diane Russini from
the Athletic to spend on everything, she has nailed this
and even in the pregame shows, they're talking about the
Jets and how there's too many leaks. There's too many leaks.
And what happens when Pete por leaka they means someone's
blaming somebody else, not my fault. Yeah, so they're talking.
Could be Aaron Ye, it could be Woody Johnson. I
mean Pete Schrager is a reporter from NFL Network. He's
pretty close to Woody Johnson and he's reported some stuff too,
like that whole Madden thing that like Jerry Judy, the
the Jets didn't trade for Jerry Judy because one of
the kids, Woody Johnson's kids say that's not true. That's
not true.
Speaker 6: Oh is it?
Speaker 2: Pete? He's trying to keep his you know, he's trying
to like do Woody Johnson a solid why because he
gets a lot of information from Woody Jetson. See, these
guys all make these like schefter, they'll make these old
deals with certain little devils in the NFL to get
their information. So they kind of have to pad it
a little bit, right, But be careful. Diana Rasibi's been
on this Jets thing. They have been a disaster from
the moment Woody Johnson bought that, well, they really really
since Super Bowl three.
Speaker 1: But have you ever scene a quarterback get a unsportsman
like penalty.
Speaker 2: I thought that was the lame call. It was, I'm
ad defend Rogers. I thought there was a BS call.
He got called for a late so let me get
this straight. He saw guys like me would call him
soft for not going after somebody, which, by the way,
there have been times in championship games where player fumbles
the ball and instead of jumping on a loose ball,
he throws his hands up like he gave up. He
didn't give up on that play. He went after Yeah,
he went after Bedford on that play and he's barely
out of bounds and he pushes him, and you're gonna
throw a flag for that?
Speaker 5: That was?
Speaker 2: That was and I go.
Speaker 1: Even the head ref had to stifle he laughed call
this and then Romo said it too, like serious, Yeah, Rogers,
you're gonna call on Rogers.
Speaker 2: That was a BS call.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 2: That was a BS call on Rogers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife does we'll take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course, I go, yes, of course.
Speaker 1: But that was BS.
Speaker 2: It was totals could happen to a better guy.
Speaker 1: But then the Bills after that, I mean, they started
to look like the Bills again. In the second half.
They are certainly like a dominant second half team. That's
where they seem to come together and hold everything.
Speaker 2: That's here's the tricky thing. Now, Okay, you can't say
anything bad about this game. They went out and steam
rolled the Jets. They did their job. Okay, there's nothing
you could have made fun of last week's game, and
deservedly so this week. In the first half, I had
texts where people were like, I don't know if they
playoff ready, man, I don't know if that this is
just the Jets second half, they really put their.
Speaker 1: Foot on the gas shoulder way who they are.
Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing. Kansas City's got this problem too.
It's a great problem to have. The Bills are guaranteed
to suit the two seed. They're gonna rest most everybody
next week.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you got if you're a betty person, put
your money on the Patriots they're playing for next year.
I would bet that Josh Allen does start the game because.
Speaker 2: He hands the ball off a couple of times to
be consecutive starting. But it'd be like when Peyton Manning
started against the Bills and the Johnson Gabe, where like,
you know, the Bills like decided to go with Johnson
the following week of the play off, right, Okay, really,
Indy had nothing to play for. It's gonna be one
of those games, okay, but you're gonna really think about this.
Johnson will have been off now if you count next week,
for five straight quarters. Patrick Mahomes locked up everything with
the Chiefs on Christmas Day and he didn't play today.
So the Chiefs are gonna be off for a month,
a month before they play their first playoff game. The
Bills are gonna be off for the equivalent of five quarters.
So you gotta be careful rest versus rust where that
comes in. And they're probably going to play the Broncos.
Did you watch any of that game yesterday?
Speaker 1: A NFL network did?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean like that two head coaches who could
be dumber by trying to be smarter. That was one
of those games. Okay. Sean Payton's the king of telling
everybody something being an idiot. But Denver's got a defense.
The Bills can't play this game, and you know Sean
Payton knows how to beat Buffalo why he did it
last year with Russell Wilson a declining quarterback. You gotta
be careful, you gotta be real careful with the Denver
Bronco because that's who's coming to town next week or
two weeks from now. That's the odds are. It could
be the Bengals, but the odds are it's probably not
gonna be the Chargers. The charge is probably gonna be
the sixth seed. If I'm the Bills, I'd much rather
play the Broncos over the Chargers Chargers Steam Road in
New England yester year. But Denver has a defense man,
they got a real good defense, and they got a
rookie quarterback, so tee off on him and go to town.
But you know, you gotta go after Denver, like get
ready for Denver now, like right now. Okay, that's the thing.
I think it was Bill Kauer said this before the games.
Or no, no, it wasn't Bill Color, Excuse me. It
was Terry Bradshaw and a lot of people like, really,
Terry Bradshaw doesn't think the Chiefs are gonna win the
first game. He thinks they're gonna too much rest time.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: He thinks the Bills are the Ravens are gonna take
him out. Now here's the thing. The Ravens are the
AFC is pretty much locked up. What we're waiting for
now are the wild card teams. How's that gonna settle out?
The bottom of the seven teams? How's that gonna settle out?
But the NFC is still fighting right now. Those guys
are gonna be sharp because they're gonna be battle tested.
The AFC teams are gonna be taking a little bit
of a nap, so everybody might be rusty.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the MVP award. Oh my gosh,
a lot of people talking Lamar Jackson after the game?
Yeah after Was it Christmas Day for them?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, yeah it was. They were the later game.
Speaker 2: Uh, and he played. He went to Houston and just
mopped the floor with the Texas. It was unbelievable. But
at the same time, he has better stats than Josh Allen,
There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: But not a better record, No, and as many pundits
have pointed out, not as many weapons around Josh.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this question, who's the second best
player on the Baltimore Ravens offense? You know this answer?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, it's either I would say it's LaMarsh Well
Mark Jacksons number one. Who's number two. I was gonna
say Lamar's number two, and I would put, oh, Derek
Henri number one. Henry, you could jockey for positions. Who's
the second best player in the Bills offense?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you said to me Derrick Henry could
be the MVP. Yeah, right there. You can't have two
guys on the same TV at MVP, right yow who's
the second best player on the Bills offense? Nobody knows
why because it's all Josh Allen. Do you realize that?
I mean, wins are not a quarterback stead and there
are losses, but you only win in the NFL really
if you have a quarterback. Look at the Bills did
They won their division back in early November, almost October
with Josh Allen and thirteen different receivers who caught touchdowns
this year. That's an NFL record. They set that today
when Shavers had that sixty nine yard bomb, which by
the way, was the biggest play in the game from Trubisky. Okay,
thirteen different guys caught touchdowns with the Buffalo Bills this
year ties an NFL record with they think several other teams.
Speaker 1: Everybody eats man.
Speaker 2: They had to go the hit to spread it out.
There was no Shakiro was the only receiver whoever caught
a pass from Josh Allen before the season started. Now, look,
MATC Collins has become a play James Cook, Ty Johnson,
Ray Davis. He wasn't even on the roster last year.
I mean, look at look at what they've been able
to do. Shakira and then Coleman today. You know, he
had that big drop earlier, which he should have had.
Point is that everybody's working together. It's one dude, it's
Josh Allen. If he's not your MVP, take the award
and throw it in the garbage. And I'm not just
saying that because I'm a Bills fan saying if you
had an NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Right now, they would go after who's the number.
Speaker 2: One pick of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Who's got who is it?
Speaker 2: Josh Allen? He could do it all.
Speaker 1: He could do it all.
Speaker 2: He's went to call him baseball a five tool player.
He's uh.
Speaker 1: It's amazing and it's fun to watch, and you do
worry as things progress here. But I think it's been
an MVP season. It is it is, I mean, and
maybe this year. I usually it's a runaway right. Usually
we see a last week, the.
Speaker 2: Last Christmas, Lamar Jackson locked it up because the Ravens
were the team.
Speaker 1: But I mean head and shoulders above. Usually this year
Jared Goff has played extremely He has, you know, putting
people say it's the system, OK, but he's played well. Man,
Josh Allen has, certainly, Yes, Lamar Jackson has, Barkley hasn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would think to me, it's Alan for all the
reasons you just and he is the.
Speaker 2: Only quarterback who has beaten the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh
that's true. And by the way, one fourth and five,
remember they could have kicked the field goal and we're
gonna get a We don't want to relive that. So
what does Alan do? The play almost broke down, He
takes off. No other quarterback could have made that play,
let alone get a first down, score a touchdown. Yeah,
that was huge, that was your I mean, Lamar's won
two MVPs, but look who he's got a guy in
the backfield where he take Derek Henry off the team
all of a sudden. I don't know if Lamar Jackson
is necessarily going out and beating.
Speaker 1: The top dog I don't know if he is, because, uh,
Henry is not a selfish guy.
Speaker 2: I think he blocks, I think he does all the stuff.
Speaker 1: And he's a beast. He's an absolute he is a beast.
Speaker 2: He is an absolute beast. I mean, the playoffs is
going to be interesting, but there's a lot. There's a
rust factor this year in the AFC, there's a rust factor.
Be careful. The Bill's season basically over. Oh it's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that this was better than you could? Oh? Yes,
it was significantly. I thought they were gonna be eleven
and six again this year. I thought they'd win the division.
But I gave when I wrote for The Times, I go, look,
there could be ten reasons why they don't. Here's why.
And then look at the roster. I mean, if you
took if you took every NFL roster, like all these
guys vote on who's got the best roster in the
NFL by position, the Bills had one of the worst
rosters before the season. If you take out the quarterback,
if you take out joy Shall, right, So I mean
who was their number one receiver? No, I don't know
who was it? And it went from the first half
of the Cardinals game. Maybe the Bills were gonna be
that good this year too. They could go undefeated too.
They lose to in a row, they get abolished by
they get obliterated by Baltimore. Then they lose to the
Texans the following week and mcdermotott slammed for that one
you know series at the end of the game right
where they end up putting putting the ball. But and
then they go on that winning streak. And I said,
they're gonna go on a streak here because they got
a lot of know nothing opponents. We'll find out when
they play Kansas City. And they took it to the Chiefs.
They took it to the Chiefs. So I mean, I
think that this year you couldn't ask for anything more.
Speaker 1: Were and the Lions, they went into Detroit and they
they fought hard.
Speaker 2: Against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know the excuse me, the Rams, the Rams. Yes,
I mean they fought hard against the Rams.
Speaker 2: So I mean they've had a good season. Now everybody's
if it's a super Bowl or bust. But I mean
think about where we were in July and August. It was, hey,
could we at least win the division? Right right? This
may Bee. Well I thought the Jets, Jets, A lot
of people did. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is back. Guys, come on,
and the Bills. You realize that, you know, they had
some good quarterbacks in that division. Take Drake may Is
gonna be a good quarterback someday. I really believe that.
But Aaron Rodgers is a Hall of Famer famer, and
to a when he's healthy, is the is a pretty
good quarterback.
Speaker 1: He is, so you know, well, hats off to him.
All right, Danny will take a break. Danny's got thoughts,
and I don't know what this is about.
Speaker 2: So everybody jokes that, well you joke. Kevin likes to
joke this thoughts. So I decided to keep a log
of all my thoughts. Be off.
Speaker 1: Well, well, let's do well, I see you again this week. Yeah,
all right, how many thoughts do you have?
Speaker 2: Twelve?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve, let's do like maybe half, and then I'd
like to give you also a quiz on what happened.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four? Okay, all right, and see if
we and we.
Speaker 1: Can actually both do the quiz because I don't have
fifteen thoughts. Yeah, all right, well, what the no, we'll
do we'll get into inside the mind of Dan and
his thoughts, because this will be interesting next.
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Speaker 8: One minute to midnight, one minute to go. That's right,
Champ one to say goodbye before we say hello.
Speaker 2: This is big. Let's start the new year. Yeah right.
I saw something.
Speaker 1: I get like the nostalgia pages pop up my feed
and there was something about bing Crosby and how he
really tried to go and do USO tours and I
think he did one like the night before the Battle
of the Ball. I don't know, but he wouldn't wear
his two pey and I didn't even know. Yeah, how
did technology get worse as it went on? In the
two pay business? A lot of times you look at
somebody goes, she's just crissy fucking high.
Speaker 2: My car keys under that mat, But you're looking like crucification.
Speaker 1: Yes there's something that you just know are terrible. And
then I couldn't really tell, but I didn't. I didn't
really spend a lot of time looking at bing Crosby,
but certainly interesting.
Speaker 2: So when he sang with Bowie he had a two pay, well,
I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to, I think,
so pum me and my rug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here comes twenty twenty five and we'll do
a little quiz. There was something I wanted to tell
you about. I'll think if it pops back into my head,
I should take notes during the show, and I didn't
do that. But Danny has thoughts on twenty twenty No,
I just thoughts, just thoughts, So Joe I thought always
says as the year end thoughts from Dan Brilla. We're
inside the mind of Danny as we wrap up the year. Yeah, yeah,
it was twenty twenty four. At what you thought it
would be for you.
Speaker 2: I thought, I'm gonna say this, you might laugh, but
it brought me closer to the Lord. And I'm going
am I gonna laugh at that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Because for the time I told you my heart by
near heart attack. Yeah, you and Alex thought it was
the funniest thing of the world. I thought I was.
I had a left behind dream. Yeah. The rapture came
and jais now dand you're not getting in. Yeah, and
it sent me to the hospital. Yes, that catapulted this
whole thing. Yes, that that was here, yeah on the podcast.
Yeah that was twenty twenty three. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah,
but this whole year, you know, I really worked on myself. Okay,
you know, yeah, and uh yeah, I couldn't ask for
a better year. That's awesome, you know, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Mia am incredibly blessed. Yeah. Good, I don't
know I agree with that.
Speaker 1: But all right, from we need some music underneath this,
So I find some instrumental music you'll run underneath. But
I want to hear the thoughts and then I you know,
I'm gonna have comments about whatever your thoughts are. So
I'd like to hear Dan's thoughts.
Speaker 2: Christmas break Thoughts by Dan Burrello brought to you by
Bill of five The Bill Rian Podcast. So h Thursday
Night Football two weeks ago. After Thursday Night Football. They like,
they like to play this game. They show a game show.
They show this thing called Beast Games. Have you heard
of this? Your family would watch it?
Speaker 1: You did, and you send me all kinds of great things.
I can't find my lavelier mics, which I thought I
brought with me to tape things. And the Beast Games
is Beast Games, mister Beach.
Speaker 2: Mister Beast, your family's a family of thinkers. That's why
I would love if you wanted to get a podcast
done with just your I would love to get your
family's perspective on this, because this is a game where
families actually compete, Like you know, the matriarchs and patriarchs
are the families where there's about a thousand people competing
in this right And the first I watched half of
the first episode, I couldn't take it. Mister Beast is
putting up five million dollars on Amazon for this game show. Right,
So there's a thousand people standing on these platforms that
turn into slides and eliminate people. And the first challenge
is you got a minute for ten rows of these
one hundred people to three of the rows have to
be eliminated already. Okay, So the first seven people who
say I will cut myself out and eliminate myself from
winning five million dollars, those seven rows of one hundred
people get to stay. The last three everybody goes. So
somebody automatically has to decide if they're going to be
the martyr. There's three types of people on this show, Yeah,
the martyrs, the self righteous, the desperate, and the selfish. Okay,
because so all of the sudder's eliminate, well, somebody else
eliminates themselves. Then I don't have to eliminate myself. I'll
do it. I need to do it. Oh my gosh,
I need to do this. So some of them do,
and then three rows from one hundred, three hundred people
get eliminated.
Speaker 1: Me Where it is beasts get this money from I
don't know, like from YouTube, doing YouTube videos and marketing himself.
Speaker 2: That's where you all his money. So now you're down
to like seven hundred and five people apparently, right. The
next task is to build this tower of blocks off
this one red block. But if it tips over, you're
out right and and like somebody's like, you can't help anybody,
or you could help them, but what do you do
your The point is the point of this Beast Games.
Five million dollars is up for grabs. It shows the
inherent desperation and selfishness and self righteousness of America in
this one game. Okay, people are like crying, I can't
I can't help you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I kind
of win this money. I can't do it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: You don't have to win five million. Oh, get a
freaking job.
Speaker 1: So that's the first thoughts on Beast Games. Not not
something you fascinating.
Speaker 2: It's an anthropological project. You do like it for that reason, yes, okay,
but I think it's incredibly self Okay. Number two, I
went to Target. I do this every year, the Target
the Saturday before Christmas, and every year I find women
counseling each other and crying in the idols because I
think I told my wife, I I know you what
I'm looking at she goes, you're right, you're right, You're right.
I feel bad for these women, but that's heard you
say this. It's last minute Christmas shopping. But these women
find each other and they're like almost like like like
defeated well for whatever reason, like the year is coming
to an end, and it's like I do enough. Life
sucks and I get it.
Speaker 1: Talk oh, you get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So one's going through something, they're to connect this
to another thought I have. There are so many people
dealing with stuff right now, right now, physically, emotionally, financially
right and we live in the greatest country of the
world and people still have problems. So be kind to
each other and help each other out there. But I
know it was my age died of pancreatic cancer. I
know we're mother another person I know who was just
diagnosed with like we had an MRI right before Christmas.
I might have a lump in my breast. I go,
it is a cancer. I don't know, Like you're living
with this uncertainty. Could this be my last Christmas? You
see what happened with Greg Gumbel. I mean, all these
other people, just just be kind because you don't know
if you could be in that situation not long from now,
would you do you? Okay, there's people whore going broke,
there's people are barely making it. Do you think it
feels desperate? And I've been in those situations.
Speaker 1: Before, But do you think that you're kind on a
regular basis? I think I try to be. I think
they really try to be. I'd like to think that
we're getting kinder, you know, yeah, more were real?
Speaker 2: Yeah more. Don't believe the internet. No, I've seen people.
I've actually seen people this past week helping each other
out and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool as heck, right, you know the thought.
Speaker 2: I have not seen the final season of Yellowstone, but
I have seen the Sopranos. Love it. I have seen
most of Breaking Bad, never finished it, but it's a
pretty good show. I've also seen all of House of Cards,
and House of Cards ended poorly because the main character
gott in some trouble in real life and they couldn't
finish the series without him. You can never base a
television show off a guy who's a star. You have
to base it off a guy who's a nobody. The
guy who played Walter White. What's his name. Brian Cranston
wasn't nobody really, he wasn't a huge star. James kandaalfeed,
he was a character actor. Both of those guys were
the center piece shows. Kevin Kasher is a big star,
and he basically dictated terms to how Yellowstone is gonna end.
They disagreed, he took he took off, and the final
season of Yellowstone I've heard was a disaster.
Speaker 1: Really because you allow, you know, explain something I call
Jackson Jackson.
Speaker 2: Uh, both my sons have tried. Now, I haven't seen it.
You're gonna say, Dan, you haven't seen How would you know?
Because you show the main character.
Speaker 1: Jackson wrote a thing on going, hey, Yellowstone, get it together.
Speaker 2: You're better than this, right, because you can't make a
movie star your main character. In the TV shows the
rest they have all the power.
Speaker 1: These are some good things. All the power.
Speaker 2: You can't do that much. I don't know who they benefit,
but they're good thoughts. Think of the wire. No major stars,
huge show. Yeah, okay, the Festivut episode speaking of Brian Krantz,
this Festivus episode of Seinfeld, Yeah, he was Dennis Krantz.
Do you realize how packed that episode was. Brian Kranton
is in it. Kevin McDonald from Kids in the Hall
is in it. That's where they got the Human Fund.
It's not the funniest episode, but it's the most packed episode.
There's like five or six different things that happened to
the episode. We forget just in the name of Festivus.
That's all just the observation. Okay, all right. The college
football playoff? What did you people expect? It's a disaster. Yeah,
so it was. The previous previous playoff. Average margin of
victory was eighteen points of the previous playoff with four teams.
Speaker 5: What is it now?
Speaker 2: Nineteen and a half so far? What did you expect?
The Christmas Day Astrodome? Why is it still there? I
don't know. Nobody knows still sitting. They've never demolished it. Yeah,
I asked my buddy Brad Davis practice because they use
it for like a convention center. But nobody really knows
what to do with it. They don't want to knock
it down. They think it might be asbestos, but nobody
knows what to do with it. Hang on a second. Hello,
I half thoughts on Billy's calling.
Speaker 1: I'm on the h I'm taping a podcast right now,
he's taping a podcast.
Speaker 2: That's okay? Is everything right? Be kind to Billy? What happened?
Something always happens.
Speaker 1: I'm right in the middle of the thing. But when
you called twice, I figure something was up.
Speaker 2: All right, Hiyboddy, I'll call you. Okay, all right, No, Dandy,
what do you think? Fake? I got a thought. One
of those thoughts was about you. Actually, Oh, I can't wait. No,
I already covered it. People are dealing with stuff. You're
dealing with stuff. We're all dealing we're all dealing with something.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, But how many more? How many
of you done?
Speaker 2: I've done like five? I think that's good for now.
All right, I got like fifteen more to go. Well,
we watched we covered Greg Gumbele, we covered the MVP. Yeah,
so I think we're okay. All right, Well, here's my thing.
Let's do them in segments of five. I like this.
I like this. I like the thoughts because I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to jump on the thought of people have
stuff going on and the idea of kindness. Again, it's
one of these things that I truly truly believe is
easier said than done. And I say that because there
was somebody who was very influential in my life and
I love more than words, and that would.
Speaker 2: Be my dad.
Speaker 1: And he used to always say, uh, you never know
a kid woke up this, You never know how somebody's
day began very similar to that, right, you're right there.
Speaker 2: And he was a teacher and so he kind of
did that. And sometimes I go, well, why can't do
that with us?
Speaker 1: But it's hard, And you know where you talked about
the women in Target, I've never seen that. I like Saturday,
exact Saturday before Christmas.
Speaker 2: Last several years, I've just happened to be there because
I'm doing last minute shopping and I see women crying
on each other's shoulders, okay, every single.
Speaker 1: I would say that it Christmas falls a lot on
the mom, on grandma, and I think it especially when
there's kids. There's expectations, and I think we all look
and we have certain expectations and you're trying to keep
up and make sure you got everybody whatever, and nobody's
left out. And I think that if you're really honest
with yourself, in about a week, no one's going to
remember what you got them right, or maybe there'll be
a couple of gifts. You'll go shit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I used to love when my aunt Mary and uncle
Frank gave me a game because it gave me something
at Christmas time, because I knew it was gonna be cool.
It was always cool. I got the one of the
first electronic baseball games. Oh okay, okay, okay, and the
whole handheld piece was built up like a stadium. Oh
that's awesome. Yeah, okay, so it's like all that, right,
So those were cool. But outside of that, I I
don't remember certain gifts and and that's okay. What I
do remember is hanging out, the laughter, the energy in
the room, being with family, right, somebody's joke, somebody who
drank a little too much and sang some stupid song,
and I love that. Those are the things that I
think are more important and we look past. But we
put all this pressure on there. And I think if
you have kids and you're especially, a lot of it
falls on women. It just seems to more than than anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a reason why we treat Mother's
Day more special than father Okay, fair, fair, being honest, Yeah,
that's another thought that's free and think about my mom.
Now go all out for mom, but by another place
besides where lobsters closed.
Speaker 1: But you never know what somebody is going through. And yes,
everybody is going through something.
Speaker 2: I mean my prayer list. I'm not bragging this. It's
getting longer and more specific. Yeah, that's not just general,
you know, pray for Billy. Oh, it's getting like we
got like a paragraph.
Speaker 1: Would I would try, I would say to people having
I laughed at somebody today because I shared their thought earlier,
and it was we can do hard things. And I
think we have to do hard things in life a
little once in a while, just because it the satisfaction
you're gonna get from doing the hard thing, the happiness
that comes. And since you know happiness is a pursuit,
you'll push yourself further. You'll accomplish more, you'll do more,
and it'll feel a little less like effort, you know,
once you get in the groove right the beginning. Every year,
every year at this time, you start going to a
gym and you can't find whatever equipment you like best
because it's just packed in there. You give it a
month and the people fall off. In the beginning.
Speaker 2: It's hard. You gotta set that habit.
Speaker 1: Once you get in the flow, it becomes a part
of your routine and all the benefits that come from
feeling better about yourself, fitting into your clothes you didn't
fit into before, having more energy, keeping up with stuff.
All of a sudden, you're just everything just clicks and
works bad. Do hard things, yes, do hard things.
Speaker 2: I forget what. It's cold, but there's a It sounds
like cortex. There's a cortex in your brain. There's a
lot of cortexes, probably, And somebody said this, I saw
it this past week. There's two different things. But the
more you complain about things, anything, this thing shrinks and
it's developed neumal pathways into misery and negativity. The harder
stuff you do, the more this thing grows and gets wronger,
and your will to live gets stronger. If you're in
a hum, yeah, I'm here in a hum. I've never
heard that hum before. Yeah, yeah, I am yeah, I've
never heard that before. The idea is, when you embrace
the heart, your life will get easier. But if you
do the easy stuff, your life will get harder. Think
about what you eat, think about how you act.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's just look, what's easier. But I'm
talking to my friend doctor Rice. Doctor Rice goes, yeah,
I'm working on another book and it's about something completely different.
Speaker 2: And I go, where do you find the time?
Speaker 1: Because he's also has a daughter who was just named
uh the Greater Rochester Area of Field Hockey Player of
the Year. Oh wow, yeah, good for her, and she's trying.
He's putting together highlight films for her to send to colleges.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, where are you finding the time?
Speaker 1: Like, and he goes, I don't watch TV because I
watched the Bills and then I don't really watch TV
and I don't really.
Speaker 2: Do that stuff.
Speaker 1: And the satisfaction he's getting from helping his order, building
an indoor workout space in their house for field hockey,
writing these books, doing all this, I go, yeah, sure right,
you got a motor and you know, make it makes
make hay while the sun shines.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: Now, one thing people will do, and this is be careful.
We're both guilty of this. You can't you can't cut
back on sleep. Yeah, you can't do You gotta get
your seven to nine hours a night. You can't cut back,
You'll kill yourself. You'll never get that time. Back. You
can't resleep. No, that's one of that.
Speaker 1: You've missed one of my biggest weaknesses.
Speaker 2: Over you've got sixteen hours in a day, use it,
don't be I mean, you can get up early, but
you gotta go to betterly too. I've been Uh. I
like to think seven to seven and a half is.
Speaker 1: Pretty good for me. Yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Don't cut back on sleep. Yeah, you cannot do that.
Even Tony Robins says, he goes, I used to do
that all the time. I thought, your shit. Yeah, and
his life quality went down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta sleep, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: And depression and all kinds of stuff it packed in
our lives when we're in radio. Dude, Oh I felt.
Speaker 1: I drove both my parents down to the DC area,
and my mother and I were driving back because Jamison
went to see his mom took a train to Philly
and she was there visiting family. And my mother said
to me something about because we get to my dad's
she took five what's normally like maybe a three and
a half hour took five and a half hours just
with traffic all this stuff. It was just just blocked Baltimore,
all these areas that we were going around, just heavy,
heavy traffic. So we get to my dad's and he says,
you want to spend the night, and I'm like, now
I'm gonna. I feel good, We're gonna. I want to
get back and I wanted to get back here and
all this stuff. So we get back in her car
and I'm driving, and all of a sudden, I hear
I can mother. My mother was famous for things like
and then you see out of the corner of your
eye as she grabs like the door handle, and I go,
what's going on? Because two trucks right, a double truck.
Speaker 2: Passed me and the wind starts whipping, and she's like, nothing,
are you getting drowsy? And I said no. She said
I thought your eyes closed.
Speaker 1: I said no, I go did I drift or anything? No,
But I just remember hearing stories about you falling asleep
at a traffic light, and I did when we were doing.
Speaker 2: Radio ideas in her heads. Now she's looking for you.
Speaker 1: You got it, And and it's late and she's tired,
and you know, we've been in the car already for
five hours, almost six hours.
Speaker 2: So I had one of these moments of Thanksgiving with
my wife. Yeah, she heard me bitching to my brother
about work once and then he asked me a work question.
He's since left the company we worked for, and she goes, honey,
do we need to be talking about work today? It's
thanks And my family all looked at her like, oh,
don't do that. Oh I didn't flip back or nothing,
But I'm like, two girl men are having a conversation. Understood, No,
I did say that.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: I wait until we got the car. Listen, I go,
You're not going to embarrass me in front of my family? Well,
is it? But that wasn't appropriate. You didn't need to
say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but why.
Speaker 2: Did she say that girl saw me once? Two grown
men are talking, lady, that's not That's not what I
meant by that. But the point was is that she's
seen me get visibly angry talking about work on the
photo and she reads me, and now she's looking after
me like your mother was looking after you. Yes, yes,
you got okay from a good place.
Speaker 1: That's right exactly. And I'm glad that you see that,
glad that you see the wrong one. What do the quiz?
Speaker 2: The twenty tell quiz. We can do the twenty twenty
four quiz.
Speaker 1: I brought to you by Ferris.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I've got other things.
Speaker 1: I got it actually, hang on, because I don't know
if I still left it up, I might have closed it.
Speaker 2: We might have to do it later in the week.
I must have closed it.
Speaker 1: It was a New York Post has a quiz? Did
it happen in twenty What happened in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: It's been a long year. And I know that it's
three hundred and sixty six days this year instead of
three sixty five. Uh huh, that's not what I mean. Yeah,
the eclipse, you know it's yeah, I forgot about the
eclipse that was this year.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most impactful things on my ear
was certainly I remember that.
Speaker 2: You and I got into it about that. Oh that
was good. That was good. It was good. Let me
see here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was going to ask because a plane
went down and people are getting the text from the plane,
those passengers on the plane in Korea. Yeah, Korea, And
I go, do you want to do that? Do you
want to write them and tell them how much you
love them?
Speaker 2: Or do you just do you want to make it?
Speaker 1: Like I think, if I was going down, you probably
want to say something to somebody, but I would have
to end it with a joke or something.
Speaker 2: Because I wouldn't want them to like be I don't know.
I would wrote morbid as a play went that. I thought, well,
isn't this nice?
Speaker 1: Isn't it ironic?
Speaker 2: Don't you think? And I would laugh. I would laugh.
Speaker 1: I can't find it nowadays.
Speaker 2: That's how it. That's okay, That's that's how I would hope.
I would go out with a joke. Uh yeah, Like
when Johnny Carson died. Yeah right, it was during the
NFL playoffs. Yeah so they Uh well, of course. Uh.
Don Rickles goes on Larry King that Sunday night and
the first thing he says is, I'm sitting down to
watch the Chargers lose the playoff game. I said, I
get a call that you really had to die to day. Really, Johnny,
talk about timing, You're the worst. That's how I'd like
to be es that is that is the way. That
is the way to go. All right, Well, close it out, Danny.
I like the thoughts. I think we do thoughts. Glad
you will why I'm glad you liked the thoughts. No,
like if we did three to five at a clips. Yeah,
I think that works. Sponsor. Yeah, we could do Danny's
Thoughts brought to you by Alpha Bra. Have Mark bring
a folder of my thoughts like the old We show.
Probably go get my thoughts the argument file. All right,
I'd love to do more shows with him this year.
Dan Barrello, we can do that. We can make that.
I like him and a lot or Mark what we
call him as a soldier whatever for Dan Billo. For
the MVP, Josh Allen, I'm Bill Moran.
Speaker 1: Will see you tomorrow, Tonia, Baby, things have gotten Worth's
a land up opportunity.
Speaker 2: For me is just a cursey till that judging make
us feel I don't have the wig