Speaker 1: What did you you know? Like, obviously we just heard
Speaker 1: that lovely bit of celebrity gossip. Does it surprise you
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's weird hearing.
Speaker 1: Which which one the younger one or the older one?
Speaker 2: Uh? Which one the older one?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I've heard this around the younger one that that
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. He seems like an like that guy
Speaker 1: is always just screaming and stuff like that. I can
Speaker 1: see how he's a weird Anyway, talking of weirdos, why
Speaker 1: don't we do what are you talking about? Willis podcast? Okay,
Speaker 1: so today was it everything you imagined? Playing and winning
Speaker 1: at the French Open? Is it cool there? What's the
Speaker 1: coolest thing? And half the stadiums are empty? Actually I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that sinner out of
Speaker 1: the French and it's blown the drawer wide open, although
Speaker 1: maybe not because of sparev Serena coming back. And of
Speaker 1: course today we do class ourselves as amateur scientists and
Speaker 1: we are going to stress test custard. All right, So
Speaker 1: we know that custard is very much the greatest liquid
Speaker 1: on earth, and today we are stress testing it. Marcus
Speaker 1: Willis atp. Sixty seven, How are you, sir.
Speaker 2: Sixty seven in the live Dave might be sixty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like to think let's go sixty seven six.
Speaker 1: I just like the six to seventh thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you know how youthful I am. I'm very much down
Speaker 1: with youth culture. So that whole six seventh thing. I
Speaker 1: like that you are now six seven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am him? Do you?
Speaker 1: I mean I know that there's a there's a whole
Speaker 1: bigger thing here. Like imagine if five years ago I'd
Speaker 1: said we're going to be podcasting just after you played
Speaker 1: the French Open, you'll be sixty seven in the ATP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have believed it. You take that when
Speaker 2: you're five years ago, I wasn't playing tennis.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what were you doing five years ago June
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Wasn't it? Yeah? Coaching?
Speaker 1: Yeah, coaching, Yeah, I didn't do much lockdown.
Speaker 2: Probably drinking, eating, Yeah, those three things really yeah, no
Speaker 2: particular all a life. Well yeah, what.
Speaker 1: In your who were you coaching at the time? Like,
Speaker 1: are you coaching players who are now on the tour?
Speaker 1: Are you literally coaching club tennis?
Speaker 3: Combination of club players and you know, hitting with you know,
Speaker 3: better players, But nothing concrete, I'd say at that point,
Speaker 3: so I was doing bits and bobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the bits are always enjoyable, the bob's less.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: What about if someone had said to you, do you
Speaker 1: know in five years in June twenty twenty six, you'll
Speaker 1: be atp sixty seven in the live.
Speaker 3: I probably you've would have believed it more than there
Speaker 3: with the French before I started playing again, and then
Speaker 3: looking at the points and what it takes to get there,
Speaker 3: because when you're not in it and you don't know,
Speaker 3: and you go our top hundred doubles, yeah that's achievable
Speaker 3: or sixty seven or but the gap between one hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty is massive, and the gap between eighty and
Speaker 3: where I'm at now is massive. So you're saying it
Speaker 3: were you're coaching and looking around, and you know players
Speaker 3: used to play with being there going yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 3: could happen. But you know you say that to me
Speaker 3: when I'm playing my first futures. No, I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: wouldn't have made sense, to be honest.
Speaker 1: If I'd said to you, if we could get a
Speaker 1: time machine, I'll go back there, and I said, do
Speaker 1: you know in five years time a mate of a
Speaker 1: mate is going to give you an opportunity and you're
Speaker 1: being a state agent. Or five years time you're going
Speaker 1: to be off the back of playing in the third
Speaker 1: round of the French Open, having played all four Grand
Speaker 1: Slams and one matches at all of them, would you
Speaker 1: have said, yeah, I can see myself and a a
Speaker 1: state agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I was looking at normal jobs as well,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I would have probably believed.
Speaker 2: The stage and thing more. Yeah, you know, because there
Speaker 2: was no way back to play.
Speaker 1: Really, you don't take time to step back and think
Speaker 1: about stuff like this. Do you know I feel it's
Speaker 1: me that's that's going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, Yeah, mega, isn't it? Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1: So look, you you have just you're back from Paris
Speaker 1: from Roland Garross. Was it everything you'd imagined playing, completing
Speaker 1: your Grand Slam set? But playing at the French.
Speaker 2: What's it? Everything? I message? I didn't really have time
Speaker 2: to imagine it. You know.
Speaker 3: I knew the facilities because I went there last year
Speaker 3: to sign in as an alternate for a day. Obviously
Speaker 3: we didn't get in, but so I knew what was around.
Speaker 2: I didn't really didn't really imagine it. One way or another.
Speaker 2: It was you.
Speaker 3: Have to react so much to what day you're playing,
Speaker 3: which court you're playing, who you're playing. It was so
Speaker 3: kind of quick that you're always doing to me. But
Speaker 3: it was amazing bloody hot for you that.
Speaker 1: M It's been a bit of a taiale of two weathers,
Speaker 1: isn't it, Because over there now it's actually becoming overcast
Speaker 1: and quite cool and wind and blustery. Yeah, very different
Speaker 1: conditions for the clay, right, the play completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's much heavier, even in our even in our
Speaker 2: third round. Yeah, there was a lot heavier. It was
Speaker 2: dropping a lot more, wasn't flying as much.
Speaker 1: I've never been to the French Open, but it always
Speaker 1: looks cool. I feel like French people are pretty cool people.
Speaker 1: There's quite a lot of straw boaters and cravats going on.
Speaker 1: Is it cool?
Speaker 2: I like it? Yeah. I think the atmosphere's phenomena. It's
Speaker 2: very very busy. It's it's it's.
Speaker 3: It's strange you watch on TV and there's empty seats. Right,
Speaker 3: we're going to discuss this. But walking around as a player,
Speaker 3: you can't move, you know, if you're walking to susan
Speaker 3: long long to practice or or or somewhere else. It's
Speaker 3: incredibly busy, probably less so now because there's less less.
Speaker 2: Players in the tournament, but it was very well attended.
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons that people think it's
Speaker 3: empty is because a lot of the court prit seats
Speaker 3: are in camera shots and a lot of time something lunch,
Speaker 3: so that that's never a good look anyway. But I
Speaker 3: think every year you see a lot of empty seats
Speaker 3: at certain points.
Speaker 2: In the day. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't see that on the outside courts, you know,
Speaker 3: when I played my third round, it was pretty full.
Speaker 3: Court seven fourteen was always rammed because you have French players.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just a big stadium courts. But it was busy,
Speaker 3: it was hot, it was fun. We were now in
Speaker 3: Paris when PSG were playing the final and I very
Speaker 3: very quickly retired to my room because people were running
Speaker 3: around top of letting flares off and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that, really like out on the streets. So
Speaker 1: psc beat Arsenal on pair and what was what was
Speaker 1: Paris like that night?
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was like another like two or three levels more
Speaker 3: in England what we do, but like not in a
Speaker 3: good way.
Speaker 2: I would say, oh really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's good atmosphere in places, but then
Speaker 3: a lot of people are just running around like headless chickens,
Speaker 3: like looting.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, there's police. There was police everywhere.
Speaker 3: We were going to go walk to our restaurant we
Speaker 3: went to every night, and then there were people running
Speaker 3: towards us, away from something in smoke everywhere. So let's
Speaker 3: just eat on the corner, like twenty yards from our hotel.
Speaker 3: There was a little restaurant and we were sat outside
Speaker 3: kind of outside between inside and outside, and PSD scored
Speaker 3: and we had to run to the furthest table inside
Speaker 3: the restaurant because, yeah, people were letting flares after there
Speaker 3: was stuff getting destroid.
Speaker 1: I feel the French are quite good at this. They're
Speaker 1: quite good at striking, and then they're quite good at
Speaker 1: all of a sudden turning into blame is our barricades? Bang?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was mental one, but to the point where I
Speaker 3: was like not scared, scared, but like I want to
Speaker 3: get into my hotel room there, and there's.
Speaker 1: One way to celebrate a cup win, isn't it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's a minority, but I'd say there's more minority
Speaker 3: than in the UK. People get rowdy and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but they're there to watch the football and enjoy the football,
Speaker 3: and there's always a palace.
Speaker 1: Won the f A Cup, Me and all the Palace
Speaker 1: fans should have looted and set Croydon on fire because
Speaker 1: it would have caused two or three million pounds worth
Speaker 1: of improvements.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it should have done. But and you won
Speaker 2: another one recently.
Speaker 1: All we do is wing cuts boring. What did you playing? Overall? Right,
Speaker 1: the whole experience of it. So the placers stayed, the
Speaker 1: changing of the place's stayed, the travel, the coaching, hitting,
Speaker 1: all of it. If you learn, what's your big takeaways?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I'm talking to you, so don't be
Speaker 1: a fay. I learned nothing.
Speaker 3: My big takeaway, I suppose now, is that we went
Speaker 3: into that third round against one of the best teams
Speaker 3: in the world on clay or on any surface, but
Speaker 3: especially right now. We went into that match, or certainly
Speaker 3: I did. I went into that match believing we had
Speaker 3: a chance to win, and not just to you know, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to have to play out my skin and hit
Speaker 2: high risk shot.
Speaker 3: So there was a strategy and we went million miles
Speaker 3: off being at least a breakup in the first we
Speaker 3: have fifteen forty in the rally, chance to put the
Speaker 3: ball away, didn't and then they came back and won.
Speaker 3: And then second set again one or two break points
Speaker 3: in that game.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I've got more belief that.
Speaker 3: I can slay with these guys, like the best players
Speaker 3: in the world, more than I had a year ago.
Speaker 3: I mean a year ago it was second wimbled and
Speaker 3: I just I hadn't played Australia yet. So a year
Speaker 3: ago I'd only played Wimbledon, and you know, we were
Speaker 3: pumped to get through our first round Hillio, Varra, Patt
Speaker 3: and we gost six and four, played all right, but
Speaker 3: it was for me, it was about getting in these
Speaker 3: events and you know, trying to sneak a win or two.
Speaker 2: Which it still is that. I mean, top players, top ten.
Speaker 3: Players lose first round the Slam sometimes that's that's the
Speaker 3: reality of it. But I suppose there's more belief now,
Speaker 3: there's more unclear on what I need to improve, and
Speaker 3: that's pretty cool. It's exciting for me now, whereas you
Speaker 3: know a year ago or so or even you know
Speaker 3: late last year, I was still really kind of by myself,
Speaker 3: churning out to tournaments, sort of thinking how high can
Speaker 3: I get? Like this, now I've got, you know, support,
Speaker 3: I've got ad Louis helping me out there. I've got
Speaker 3: Adam with me, I've got yeah, it's it's it's more real.
Speaker 3: Now I feel less alone. I feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more more belief in the whole thing, which is cool.
Speaker 1: When you're coming up against them, the pair that you
Speaker 1: played like, they've gone into that. They're in the quarter
Speaker 1: finals already.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, Sammy's now they won last night.
Speaker 1: Seven fourteen twelve, and yeah, I like final that.
Speaker 2: Would be a good match. Oberlight and news A are
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's Favasori and Bellelli. What do you
Speaker 1: realize in the warm up in the first game that
Speaker 1: you're playing against players of that quality? Or are their
Speaker 1: little kind of clutch moments that they can produce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing.
Speaker 3: They can play out of the ordinary stuff, but it's
Speaker 3: it's more like when you're hitting with them, you know,
Speaker 3: they hit a nice ball like every but everyone does.
Speaker 3: It's kind of yeah, every time you have a half chance,
Speaker 3: they're probably going to make a good first serve. They
Speaker 3: don't miss stupid balls in certain moments. They don't give
Speaker 3: you anything really. Yeah, they might miss a few returns
Speaker 3: here or there, but there's no they don't just gift
Speaker 3: you a break or gift your love thirty and if
Speaker 3: they are down, you know, you know, the fifteen forty
Speaker 3: we had had a second serve. I made the return,
Speaker 3: I say in the point, and then you know, three
Speaker 3: unreturnables in a row pretty much right, and then your
Speaker 3: four to three on seven you've got to you know,
Speaker 3: hold your game, which we did.
Speaker 2: But there's a you know, yeah, they're just incredibly solid
Speaker 2: at what they do. So there's no they don't.
Speaker 3: Drop the ball short, they don't go to stupid shots.
Speaker 3: They don't there's no randomness really, it's just incredibly locked in.
Speaker 1: And I mean it was four and three overall. But
Speaker 1: as you said, opportunities, especially in our first set, opportunities
Speaker 1: were there. Is that sometimes is being in that position
Speaker 1: better for you next time you're in that position? You know,
Speaker 1: like I do a little bit of you when you're
Speaker 1: fifteen forty, You're like, we're fifteen forty against really good
Speaker 1: players at the French Opening. Is there a bit of
Speaker 1: that or is it just another point?
Speaker 3: I have time Like it was fifteen forty. I was,
Speaker 3: I was planning on where I was going to hit
Speaker 3: the return, and.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just play and go after it and
Speaker 2: stay loose.
Speaker 3: And you know, the one second steve I had, I
Speaker 3: hit a good return. As I said, we're in the point.
Speaker 3: But then from thirty forty they've hit three first serves
Speaker 3: and then second set. Oh one, all I've left the
Speaker 3: ball that I thought was going long. It's caught the
Speaker 3: back edge of the line and very very back edge
Speaker 3: of the line. I still thought it might have been long,
Speaker 3: but it was in apparently, But yeah, it comes down
Speaker 3: to well an eighth of an inch sometimes, yeah, but
Speaker 3: yeah we did it wasn't you know the match before
Speaker 3: they played us, they played Bumbay and Venus they lost
Speaker 3: six points in their serving the whole match, six or
Speaker 3: seven points. So you know, you don't have the right
Speaker 3: to have opportunities just when you do, you ideally want
Speaker 3: to take them.
Speaker 2: But you say their opportunity to you know.
Speaker 3: And four of the break points too, were in the rally,
Speaker 3: and one of those I thought we probably.
Speaker 2: Should have taken. Yeah, you know, had I hit the volley.
Speaker 2: I'm still hitting a volley and approaching Mollie and the
Speaker 2: to their four hands. It's very good. So yeah, So
Speaker 2: a lot of times I've.
Speaker 3: Played, you know, good pairs and you lose four or
Speaker 3: five or six and four, but you have one break
Speaker 3: point randomly or zero, and it's more of a chopping
Speaker 3: than that much.
Speaker 2: We just played. I suppose I.
Speaker 1: Thought they were very good second serve returners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't miss. Yeah, especially on Yaka. They got
Speaker 3: round news foor handslot on mine.
Speaker 2: On mine.
Speaker 3: As a malefty, I could make it a bit more
Speaker 3: difficult for them, but they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't just give you random errors very rarely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. It's but it's it's
Speaker 1: what they were doing on the second serve, like, from
Speaker 1: a coaching point of view, was effective and repeatable returns,
Speaker 1: isn't it all of every second serve return Like very
Speaker 1: rarely would they go for something outrageous. It was in.
Speaker 1: It was forcing you guys to play. It's relentless, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's just relentless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then sometimes you know, I'd hit a return
Speaker 3: second to last game, took it early, came in, but
Speaker 3: they just hits the angle winner off it straight away,
Speaker 3: but they've got.
Speaker 1: They've got a little bit of clutch, Yeah, a little.
Speaker 2: Bit of class, a little bit extra class.
Speaker 3: You know, I hit a return that nine of the
Speaker 3: time you're going to have a volley from at least
Speaker 3: and he's just when I passed you. So there is that,
Speaker 3: and then have a sorry on his second serve.
Speaker 2: Returney a justice position.
Speaker 3: So sometimes they'll you know, stand really wide and change
Speaker 3: your eyesight of it, and other times they'll take it
Speaker 3: early and hit the back end, so you never really know.
Speaker 3: I do it as a net player because I can
Speaker 3: see how he's moving, but as a survey you don't
Speaker 3: know if he's going to circle and you don't know
Speaker 3: if he's going to blast the inside in or you
Speaker 3: know he's going to take the back end earlier, he's
Speaker 3: going to larb and get in the point that way.
Speaker 3: So it's it's effective, and it keeps you thinking and
Speaker 3: it keeps your eyes pretty active.
Speaker 2: As an opponent.
Speaker 3: They haven't really lost many matches on play recently, so
Speaker 3: obviously they're very good saying.
Speaker 1: Saying all of that has almost made it sound for
Speaker 1: somebody who hasn't seen it and is maybe watching or
Speaker 1: listening to us now, it makes it seem like there
Speaker 1: was a bigger gap. I mean, the the match was tight.
Speaker 1: I was able to see it. It was tight, and
Speaker 1: there were just moments. So I'd say probably overall is
Speaker 1: about a ten point difference between the YouTube something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you four, sorry, and it just comes down to where
Speaker 1: those ten points fall. But you saying that about having
Speaker 1: the confidence of being on the court with those guys,
Speaker 1: knowing that you can get in with those guys. You're
Speaker 1: playing the fifth seed in the third round on your
Speaker 1: least preferred surface. Yeah, on grass, on grass, I think
Speaker 1: you guys have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends depends on you. Other stories.
Speaker 1: I mean they're no mugs or grass the don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but.
Speaker 2: Very very well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'd say for me, I'd have more of
Speaker 3: a chance and more comfortable on that surface.
Speaker 2: But there we go. It's not all hate with the
Speaker 2: Clare's some positives.
Speaker 1: We'll try and find them in the break because when
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to talk about the draw
Speaker 1: that's blown wide open by Sinner. I want to get
Speaker 1: your view of what it's like to be in a
Speaker 1: drawer and see a couple of top seeds go and
Speaker 1: Serena Williams back at forty four. Will Marcus Willis still
Speaker 1: be playing at forty four, Let's find out after this
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the words You're talking about Willis Podcast
Speaker 1: with him eighty p. Six seven Marcus Willis and me Dave.
Speaker 1: So let's just go a little bit into the French open.
Speaker 1: Sinner out of the French blew it wide open. Lots
Speaker 1: of shocks following, you know, Djokovic out and so on,
Speaker 1: and basically the whole top ten, top fifteen capitulated, leaving
Speaker 1: as Verev a reasonably clear path for his maiden Grand Slam.
Speaker 1: Have you ever played in a tournament and you arrive thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to work on this, I'm going
Speaker 1: to work on that, and all of a sudden the
Speaker 1: drawer opens up, a little bit of top seeds go,
Speaker 1: maybe someone's injured, and and you think, oh, hang on,
Speaker 1: my goalposts have shifted.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 3: I've always been quite I don't know if it's a
Speaker 3: good or bad thing, but I've always known I can
Speaker 3: lose to anyone at any point, but.
Speaker 2: In the same way, I respect everyone.
Speaker 3: So you know, if I'm playing someone significantly lower ranked
Speaker 3: who hasn't had great results.
Speaker 2: I will still respect.
Speaker 3: Them and rate what they can do, because I found
Speaker 3: in times where I thought, oh, I'm going to win this.
Speaker 3: You get someone playing off their face and you don't,
Speaker 3: and it's you need to be prepared for them to
Speaker 3: play the best tennis. So, yeah, I've been in loads
Speaker 3: of tournaments where seeds are drops. In doubles, it means nothing,
Speaker 3: especially at challenges you like in slams. You know it's
Speaker 3: more rare, but it still happens. Yeah, in singles, I've
Speaker 3: been in a lot of tournaments where seeds strapping. You go,
Speaker 3: all right, well we'll cross that bridge if I'm in
Speaker 3: their section of the drawer quite often, actually quite a
Speaker 3: lot in my career, and I played the top seed
Speaker 3: or second seed first round, and I think I had
Speaker 3: a really good record against them, And I think almost
Speaker 3: as better a player seed first round than when they
Speaker 3: get later on in the tournament.
Speaker 1: So you've been the one knocking them out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a bit. I want to say, it would
Speaker 2: be interesting to do the stats on that. I suppose,
Speaker 2: but obviously some might lost.
Speaker 3: But I always said, you know, recently, in singles, if
Speaker 3: you're playing a tournament, especially a change of surface or
Speaker 3: a new tournament.
Speaker 2: If you play a.
Speaker 3: Seed, you want to play in first round because they
Speaker 3: you know, it's their first match, they've not had time
Speaker 3: to get hot yet.
Speaker 1: Does the atmosphere in the because I know that players
Speaker 1: they're very competitive on cour but quite often they're reasonably
Speaker 1: friendly off court, needing each other's for hits or whatever,
Speaker 1: tickets and stuff, does the atmosphere in the changing room
Speaker 1: go a little bit different as soon as they realize,
Speaker 1: Like when Sinner went out, do you think Zverev just
Speaker 1: grew a couple of inches that day? And then the
Speaker 1: other players all looked at it and went, hm, it's
Speaker 1: only Zverev to be even though is like colossal. They're
Speaker 1: looking at him in Grand slams, Grand Slam finals, they're
Speaker 1: looking a little bit of choking someone like a Berrettini
Speaker 1: all of a sudden goes hang on.
Speaker 3: I don't I think that's what we think from the outside.
Speaker 3: I don't think any one of those players has gone,
Speaker 3: I can win the tournament a sin it. I think
Speaker 3: they'll be thinking, right, okay, I've got to get through
Speaker 3: this next match, and I think forever will be the same.
Speaker 3: There might be a part of him that's excited, but
Speaker 3: it's all irrelevant. If he doesn't get to the final,
Speaker 3: he's got to play Mensik next, who's playing phenomenally.
Speaker 1: Well, like it's yeah, I'm real, it's not easy, So he'll.
Speaker 2: Be thinking all about that, and then you know, some
Speaker 2: on the other side of one.
Speaker 3: Six matches, So yeah, I think, yeah, for us, it's
Speaker 3: more exciting. It's more we start predicting who's favorite or.
Speaker 2: Who's going to win, and yeah, sometimes we're right, sometimes
Speaker 2: they're wrong.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think they'll see it as an opportunity.
Speaker 3: They're in the quarters of a slam, not playing a
Speaker 3: top layer on paper. But I don't think they'll think
Speaker 3: much more than that.
Speaker 2: They'll they'll be thinking, right, you know, how am I
Speaker 2: getting through this match? How do I win? How do
Speaker 2: I win today and then recover? And then who have
Speaker 2: I got next? And how do we for that?
Speaker 1: And do you think life's just got a lot harder
Speaker 1: for Zverev? Do you think Sinner going out It would
Speaker 1: be better for Verev if Sinner went out in a
Speaker 1: semi final, because then you just go one match. But
Speaker 1: as soon as Verev goes out. I was reading on
Speaker 1: a website yesterday. There's a seventy two percent chance a
Speaker 1: very f now wins the French Open, which is a
Speaker 1: highest statistical percentage. And he's ever had of any Grand
Speaker 1: Slam he's entered, even when he's in the final. So
Speaker 1: do you think that there's a his team are trying
Speaker 1: to keep him calm, keep him focused match by match,
Speaker 1: because actually there's more pressure on him.
Speaker 2: Now, different pressure, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the scarier pressure pressure of I'm going
Speaker 1: to play center and I'm going to try and hold myself.
Speaker 1: See how I get on versus I'm playing someone who's
Speaker 1: twenty seven atp or lower. I've got a win, I'm
Speaker 1: expected to win. I've got a witness at the friend.
Speaker 1: I've got to win the Grand Slam. Now, there's not
Speaker 1: a better chance for me in my career. He's never
Speaker 1: played in a Grand Slam where no one else in
Speaker 1: the top ten is left by him.
Speaker 2: That must be harder, Ah, harder, But you probably take
Speaker 2: that before the thought of them.
Speaker 3: You'd probably take that harder than the other harder of
Speaker 3: trying to beat cinema acres. But yeah, and I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to watching that semi final. Mentis playing really well,
Speaker 3: and you know the other half is still some good players.
Speaker 3: It's just like Bretine, he's not really one hundred and
Speaker 3: eight in the world is he's playing. He's a lot
Speaker 3: better than that. But yeah, i'd still think if he
Speaker 3: plays Bertine in the final, i'd expect to have to win.
Speaker 3: But it's it's one of those things. And having been
Speaker 3: around it all there so these teams and these guys
Speaker 3: are so on the next task, whatever that is with
Speaker 3: us physio or handing rackets in or they won't be
Speaker 3: thinking about the final before the semi final. And you know,
Speaker 3: so I went out ages ago and very still got
Speaker 3: on with it and played some good tennis. So I
Speaker 3: expect him to.
Speaker 2: Do the same.
Speaker 3: I expect him to play well in the semis, don't
Speaker 3: expect him to freak out. I think I'll love the
Speaker 3: belief that he can win, considering he's not really lost
Speaker 3: to anyone apart from as we've discussed before. But you know,
Speaker 3: if Mensik turns around and plays his best tennis and
Speaker 3: beats him, it's not like the biggest shock in the world,
Speaker 3: not to me, not to me, and it will be frustrating,
Speaker 3: But have you seen the way mensick.
Speaker 1: Plays these like. I can't believe the amount of new
Speaker 1: talent on show at the French this year. The French,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's the Aussie, isn't it that has
Speaker 1: that little breakthrough start of the year's start. The French
Speaker 1: this year is just showcased that all of the chatre
Speaker 1: we've had about oh there's only top two players in
Speaker 1: the world and stuff like this. I think over the
Speaker 1: next year to eighteen months, we're going to be back
Speaker 1: in a big especially if our Karazis gets the odd
Speaker 1: injury or sinner, you know, can't find his factor fifty.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to start seeing that that's there
Speaker 1: are opportunities, especially in Masters like this and real talent now,
Speaker 1: massive hitters and stuff like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Basher withdraw in the second round. You've
Speaker 3: got some really good players that then make it through
Speaker 3: or get injured or unlucky as well. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of good tennis players out there.
Speaker 1: Well. One future star of tennis, of course, is Serena Williams.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of the name
Speaker 1: Serena Williams, so rather unknown American player. She's got our
Speaker 1: whole future ahead of her she's coming back at Queens.
Speaker 1: So just a quick word because I want to relate
Speaker 1: this to you right as because you are the bustiest
Speaker 1: tennis player I know. So I want to relate this
Speaker 1: back to you. Okay, are you shocked? Are you shocked
Speaker 1: she's come back? Question one? Question two? What is she
Speaker 1: seeing that's made her think I can come back?
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not shock because you know, especially over the women's side,
Speaker 3: you haven't. You had Navrathelo overcome back for it, you
Speaker 3: had Hingis come back from it, you had all these
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 1: It Tapriati yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do it and they're good. You know, don't
Speaker 2: expect her to come back and be rusty or rubbish.
Speaker 2: Sure she'll be winning matches, right Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think if you still believe
Speaker 3: in yourself, like I've had this, I had to stop
Speaker 3: because I couldn't play anymore.
Speaker 2: But I think it's just loving the feeling of playing tennis.
Speaker 3: So she's she So yeah, when kids had their personal
Speaker 3: life and thought, yeah, probably watching and keeping an eye
Speaker 3: on the on the on the tours and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and probably just thought, I want to go and do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just like just like a childhood, if they
Speaker 2: see someone doing something they want to do, they'll want
Speaker 2: to go and join in. It's that same thing. That's
Speaker 2: how I imagine it anyway. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think she'll be in any financial difficulties and
Speaker 2: needs to make you know.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, that's the reason that most people would be
Speaker 1: giving up around your level, isn't it is they failure
Speaker 1: to fund it when they're two fifty eightyp That's.
Speaker 2: Why people don't play longer. Yeah, that's what people are
Speaker 2: trying to fix.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: She is not going to have that problem. So do
Speaker 1: you think she has just got years and years ingrained
Speaker 1: of drilling, having coaching, being in a place doing a thing.
Speaker 1: She's retired, she's had a kid or kids, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and actually she just feels that there's something majorly missing
Speaker 1: from her routine, a bit like people who have a
Speaker 1: career break and need to go back to the office
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like I kind of think if I was
Speaker 1: to not be able to work, I don't think i'd retired.
Speaker 1: I feel I couldn't really imagine just watching Country five.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean someone like Serena as well, that the
Speaker 3: passion and belief she must have to get to where
Speaker 3: she has already, she will be trying to do the
Speaker 3: best she can, and she'll believes she can, you know,
Speaker 3: still win matches at the highest level, which I believe she.
Speaker 2: Can as well.
Speaker 1: When you love to know how the mechanics work for
Speaker 1: like a billionaire athlete like her, who's no doubt got
Speaker 1: a team of people who do everything the mechanics are.
Speaker 1: She's she lost a load of weight. I think she
Speaker 1: did an advert in Super Bowl, yeah, for weight loss,
Speaker 1: for weight loss medication. Right, so she's feeling trimmed, she's
Speaker 1: feeling good. She's sitting there watching Asimova in the Women
Speaker 1: and Final lose to Love. Right, this is what I'm imagining. Okay,
Speaker 1: She's sitting there in her with her two thousand inch screen,
Speaker 1: and she thinks I wouldn't lose to Love to sky check.
Speaker 1: I reckon I could have a go, And the person
Speaker 1: sitting next to her goes, yeah, he probably could, and
Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, I can still serve one fifteen wide. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you probably keep and blah blah blah. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm going to I'm going to go and play
Speaker 1: t and then she does, and then she alerts someone
Speaker 1: in the team in team serena, I want to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a go and they go, right,
Speaker 1: I need to speak to the managing director of Nike.
Speaker 1: We need to do this. You need to have that
Speaker 1: fly in a hitter. We're gonna yeah, like it's and
Speaker 1: then that's it. It's gone. It's out of her hands,
Speaker 1: it's gone.
Speaker 2: A lot of logistics behind it, high.
Speaker 1: Chart somewhere that I think there was a moment that
Speaker 1: she's watched women's tennis and she thought.
Speaker 3: She's probably got yeah, and meant self belief that she
Speaker 3: should do with chief. I don't know if it would
Speaker 3: have been an Asmo overmatch, it would have been something
Speaker 3: in the game where it would have been more herself like.
Speaker 2: I can do this, and I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if she ever stopped because she doubted
Speaker 3: that she could. I don't know reasons for stopping to have,
Speaker 3: you know, exactly.
Speaker 1: The family and the marriage time.
Speaker 2: To do that. I don't ever think she's.
Speaker 3: Had self doubts until whether she can still be a
Speaker 3: very good tennis player and win win stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she certainly seems a confident person. What will you
Speaker 1: still be playing tennis at forty four?
Speaker 2: Definitely?
Speaker 3: And so I just don't know if I'll be playing
Speaker 3: the Coventry League at forty four or running Garrison forty four.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I'm not going to stop playing
Speaker 2: out of love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah and when? So what's going to stop you playing?
Speaker 2: And finance?
Speaker 1: That's it?
Speaker 2: No one else.
Speaker 1: As long as you can, you're out there. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, Tennis world, that's a threat. There's a threat,
Speaker 1: Tennis World.
Speaker 2: What shall in local parks near you?
Speaker 1: Right? Coming up after the break, this is exciting, Marks
Speaker 1: and I do like to think of us as very
Speaker 1: much amateur scientists, amateur doctors as well. We didn't complete
Speaker 1: medical school, but we know we know our way around
Speaker 1: the body. Coming up after the break, we're going to
Speaker 1: stress test custard, bloody love custard, one of them. I
Speaker 1: actually have to depack now because of a fear of
Speaker 1: the smell.
Speaker 2: You got the same thing?
Speaker 1: If I have, then that's fine. Should we just start here?
Speaker 1: So look, let's just do a quick welcome back while
Speaker 1: open up a few packets. We are actually live now,
Speaker 1: so I've just got to open up a couple of
Speaker 1: extra bits. Welcome. This is part three of the worlds
Speaker 1: you're talking about? Will this podcast not thrown together?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: This is professional? Now? This part is very exciting because
Speaker 1: I only know one person where I can leave a
Speaker 1: voice note that says tomorrow on a podcast, do you
Speaker 1: want to stress test custard? We both bloody love custard,
Speaker 1: And as I send it over to you, I know
Speaker 1: there's not a chance in hell you would say no
Speaker 1: ah ah, So exciting to know you. So basically what
Speaker 1: this is, lovely listener and viewer, is we have got
Speaker 1: five You've got five. Yeah, I've got five things as
Speaker 1: previously discussed, five things that we are going to put
Speaker 1: custard on or in or over, and then we are
Speaker 1: going to eat it because I I love custard to
Speaker 1: the point Marcus, I can have custard cold h Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can just do it. Have you got a custard
Speaker 1: of choice? Ambrosia of birds and so mind in a bowl?
Speaker 1: Yours good? Mine's an ambrosia out of a tin. So
Speaker 1: we don't know what each other's got. And I think
Speaker 1: what we're going to do as as true scientists here
Speaker 1: because we've we've obviously got the apparatus, the method underlining it,
Speaker 1: and write classwork in the corner. We've got all of
Speaker 1: the scientific experiment ready. We will show each other what
Speaker 1: we're about to dip cover in custard and then try
Speaker 1: it live on air and feedback to stress test custard.
Speaker 1: Just how far can custard still go and remain beautiful? Marcus?
Speaker 1: Would you like to take it away?
Speaker 2: Got the roast turkey? Slice?
Speaker 1: A roast turkey slice with custard. Finally someone's put it together.
Speaker 2: And what I'm going to do with this is enrollment.
Speaker 1: No, so you're putting the custard like a tltilla. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you're going to roll and a dip.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so you got the custard and then mhm,
Speaker 2: o me, do I just have to have one bite? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I mean you don't have to. Is turkey
Speaker 1: and custard night?
Speaker 2: Yes? Ah, a bit weird? Mm hmm, it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how I describe you. Okay, can you rank
Speaker 1: turkey with custard out of four please? Four being brilliant,
Speaker 1: one being awful.
Speaker 2: So four would be like sponge pudding and custard. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So this is a two.
Speaker 1: Okay, a pizza base. I'm going to have custard pizza.
Speaker 1: So I'm like the tomato sauce would be on a pizza.
Speaker 1: There we go. This is a visual thing. If you're
Speaker 1: not on our YouTube channel, you can hear this. So
Speaker 1: this is my first ever custard pizza. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a pizza base with custard on it.
Speaker 2: No, I gathered that.
Speaker 1: Do you know that's not the worst thing I've ever had?
Speaker 3: Yes, because pizza bases has a plandn't they. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: you've just got a bit of carb with custard. There's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I actually went back in. A bit of card with
Speaker 1: custard is also the way I would describe you. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna say that's a three out
Speaker 1: of four. I like that custard pizza. Three out of four.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let they'll do with this research in
Speaker 1: years to come. I wonder if how no Bell find
Speaker 1: out about this.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not gonna dip this one because it's the
Speaker 3: it's a smoke salmon piece excellent.
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do here is spoon it on.
Speaker 2: You can see here and that's kind a bit messy. Up,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a rolls up better than the turkey
Speaker 2: slide h two and a half really surprisingly works with
Speaker 2: the saltiness and then you get the custom coming through
Speaker 2: at the end.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was gonna be grim. That's why
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 1: Wow. So you're saying two point five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, better than the roast turkey. The roast turkey slice
Speaker 2: is a bit weird that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: You know if someone had come out of a wedding
Speaker 3: with with them and I have one, I'll probably get
Speaker 3: another one.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like you'd eat it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, shall I? I go for my fish based Okay,
Speaker 1: so I've gone for ready to eat seafood sticks.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're disgusting.
Speaker 1: What is disgusting about seafood stick? Are you ready? It's
Speaker 1: a dip? Ok? Grooves of closs as horrible? M hm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's actually a challenge, scrim Okay, I'm giving seafood sticks one.
Speaker 1: Someone came out at a wedding with that. Yeah, exit
Speaker 1: do you like the super six so I can manage them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh all right, this is gonna be a dip.
Speaker 2: This is cucumber.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Oh, you and I have gone slightly aligned.
Speaker 1: I think because of the you've gone back in. Wow,
Speaker 1: a double dip cucumber and custard.
Speaker 2: It's nice. It's nice until you get the cucumber juice
Speaker 2: mixing in there as well.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the initial crunch is good, but once a middle
Speaker 3: of the cucumber mixing with the custard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a two.
Speaker 1: Wow up there with turkey and that's going in the bed.
Speaker 1: I actually just had to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a custard palate cleanser there because I'm still suffering a
Speaker 1: little bit with the seafood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. That was actually nearly made me gag
Speaker 2: when you got.
Speaker 1: It was close. Yeah, okay, this one a pork pie.
Speaker 2: That's a minute.
Speaker 1: Look at this. If this is only a visual gag,
Speaker 1: that's what it would look like if my head was
Speaker 1: a pork pie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the camera, are you spreading and you're dipping?
Speaker 1: Hang on, I got got distracted at school. I was distracted,
Speaker 1: easily distracted and distract others. That's what I'd look like
Speaker 1: with eyes in the nose as a pork Can you
Speaker 1: notice a difference hello. Okay, right, I'm going to remove
Speaker 1: that from the pie and get a fresh one. Okay,
Speaker 1: a pork pie. I'm gonna spread. I'm gonna have a
Speaker 1: little little pork, but I'm gonna have a topping on
Speaker 1: my pork pie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like you need to get it open
Speaker 2: and get the custom right in there.
Speaker 1: However, Ah, okay, great cove ridge, isn't it worse? That's
Speaker 1: worse than a step boostick mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Because of the jelly.
Speaker 1: The jelly, Oh my god, I've got to get rid
Speaker 1: of it. That's unswallowable. That is unswallowable. Berber Okay, that's revolting.
Speaker 2: I've kept it quite healthy here. Have you noticed the
Speaker 2: turkey the summer and the cucumber mm hmm. And the carrot.
Speaker 1: The carrot's good. Well, you're an athlete. You need to
Speaker 1: think about what you're going to eat your custard with.
Speaker 2: Better carrot makes you say in the dark apparently, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Imagine that's all right. Carrot's not like an offensive taste.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: It's got a good crunch. I can see a good
Speaker 1: good that's a three carrot and castard.
Speaker 2: That's actually really nice.
Speaker 1: Carrot and custard. If we ever did a cop show,
Speaker 1: That's what I'd like Cus to be called.
Speaker 2: People got honey on the carrots.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. Yeah, I've been known to do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, a carrot is a versatile, very versatile. Okay, nice, nice,
Speaker 1: simple one for the cheese, is that a layer down
Speaker 1: my light?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Just the same color I feel I'm just gonna do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: same color. Nutty cheese, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Nutty fifty percent fat.
Speaker 1: Absolutely fine, absolutely perfect. You go back into that.
Speaker 2: He's Custer, but we have teams pickled. It's quite sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: cheese is good.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I'm going to give it? A four?
Speaker 2: Really as good as yeah, as good as.
Speaker 1: It's not up there with treat or I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's a three?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I say four.
Speaker 3: Can't beget throwing those around out of ten ranking system
Speaker 3: seven or eight?
Speaker 1: What kind of idiot invented first of four?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So your final Now, this this one needs no introduction.
Speaker 2: It is one of the.
Speaker 3: You know on and the crisp car that came last
Speaker 3: in my head, got a lot of controversy, but pretty
Speaker 3: very very very basic Christmas A bacon fry.
Speaker 1: Mh. Do love a bacon fry in a pub?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought they were wider than that. I haven't
Speaker 2: had one in a while, quite thin. Maybe you've grown
Speaker 2: maybe I've grown it.
Speaker 5: Oh I'm so tense, you've gone back.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a three point five geesus filth man. It's
Speaker 4: like salty, yeah, really good, really good.
Speaker 3: It just shows that with custard you can make you
Speaker 3: can polish a turdy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can make bake and fry taste nice, guys.
Speaker 2: What's that lettice?
Speaker 1: Lettice? Shredded lettice? I'm on a health kick this year.
Speaker 1: I've lost twenty four kilos, so I'm on a health kick.
Speaker 1: That's that. Oh no, like a topic that Gordon Ramsey,
Speaker 1: Now you you do it.
Speaker 2: I feel like most sauces but in sad are eighty
Speaker 2: perent sugar now anyway?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I've got to eat. I've only
Speaker 1: got a spoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, just tip your head in there.
Speaker 1: It's all over my clean look. The flavor, like the
Speaker 1: kind of dullness of the lettuce with the sweetness of
Speaker 1: the custard. Absolutely fine. I'm going I'm going to three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that would be okay. Any surprise, isn't there?
Speaker 1: Okay, so well let's just summarize this because people really care.
Speaker 2: You know, people are listening, still listening, then must be
Speaker 2: raining outside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something's gone wrong or they're just those people where they,
Speaker 1: you know, the nursing home, just put the things on
Speaker 1: the you know, the earphones in their ears, and now
Speaker 1: they just can't move. So turkey two, smoked salmon two
Speaker 1: point five, cucumber two, carrot three, bacon, fries three point
Speaker 1: five lettuce three, cheese three, pork pie no, couldn't even
Speaker 1: be swallowed, seafood one, and pizza three. Where was your
Speaker 1: surprise for your side?
Speaker 2: It was support pie.
Speaker 3: Really it makes sense because I don't like pop pies actually, ironically,
Speaker 3: I know, surprise looking at me. But yeah, like the
Speaker 3: gelatine bit, like the wabbly bit of the middle and
Speaker 3: the like how dry, how dry the top is and
Speaker 3: how fatty the.
Speaker 2: Sausage is in the middle.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't not for you, yeah, but actually a
Speaker 2: lot of people do like it.
Speaker 3: I'm not putting bit of custody out I thought, but yeah,
Speaker 3: your reaction was very funny and the smoke salmon my side.
Speaker 1: Do you know what of all of the ones that
Speaker 1: you've got, Like the carrot, it's a bland flavor. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised at the smoked salmon.
Speaker 2: It was all right, yeah, yeah, fine, absolutely no pleasant.
Speaker 1: The bacon fry, I mean, that's that's colossal.
Speaker 2: That that really improved it and gave it that salty
Speaker 2: sweet kind of flavor.
Speaker 1: And I feel it moves bacon Fries the next time
Speaker 1: there's an atp end of season Masters. I feel like
Speaker 1: the versatility of a bacon fry now has gone up.
Speaker 1: I think any that's an any surface crisp now it is,
Speaker 1: that's going to be round there.
Speaker 2: It was really really nice. Yeah, that that.
Speaker 1: Crisp now has gone from aggressive baseliner to hand up
Speaker 1: the back of the grip.
Speaker 2: It's a bigger transition than serve a couple of off seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's huge, And congratulations to bacon Fries and
Speaker 1: bacon FRI's team for making such a change.
Speaker 2: Some of our lesseners will be happy with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I now respect that bacon fry a bit more than
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, bacon Fry very much. Today is burst onto
Speaker 1: the scene. You know it wasn't luck it's now official.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that we do this. What a couple
Speaker 1: of no beds. So well done, Marcus. I'm going to
Speaker 1: let you get back to normal life.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your seafood sticks.
Speaker 1: Pervert. Yeah, fingers, was it the movement bit?
Speaker 2: It was just like they were wobbling everywhere and not
Speaker 2: the color of them, just discussing that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: mind him. I can't even look at the screen. It's grim.
Speaker 6: Victor Baranco on trombone, Sergeant Major Craig Frederick on the trumpets,
Speaker 6: and the composition the Army Blues
Speaker 3: Walked up down