Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody to a new episode of Your Wrong.
I'm Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist, and
I'm here with David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner.
We loved hearing from everybody this week. It was a
It was a big week. It was a big week
for David Harsani, who needs to tell us what happened
to himself after last week's episode was broadcast or aired.
Speaker 2: The reason Molly is starting the show is because I'm
having some trouble because I'm in a cast. I had
a what I would call a pretty serious bike accident.
Broke my hand and broke my arm and hurt my knee,
and it ruined my helmet. I landed on my head
really hard. If I wasn't wearing a helmet, I don't
think i'd be alive. So I'm not one of these
people who lectures anyone on what they should be doing.
But if you're writing, if you're cycling, and if you're
cycling as a sport like I am, you know I'm
going relatively fast, you should be wearing a helmet.
Speaker 1: Like cycling in a way that's in the vicinity of cars.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, since this happened to me, I've heard, you know,
people have told me horror stories, and I don't know
that i'd be alive without a helmet. Maybe I would be,
but it would have been something far more serious than
what I'm experiencing, you know. And it's my right hand
in a cast, so I can't do anything with my
left hand. I realized it's very difficult. But so I
appreciate moll you taking the lead today.
Speaker 1: You're not ambidextrous, no.
Speaker 2: Whatever, the opposite of that is, that's what I am.
I showed you my scribbles before I can barely write.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Pretty traumatic in the sense of, you know, fifty five
and it was I think maybe the worst accident I've
been in physically, you know, it was pretty messed up. Yeah,
I'm fine now. I already feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: So when it happened, you knew you'd messed up, like
things were messed up with someone there to help you,
or did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so I yeah, I ride the Capitol Trail,
which is from you know, Richmond to Williamsburg. I don't
ride the whole thing, it's like fifty miles, but I
do ride parts of it and sort of there are
a few driveways there, and a car just kind of
zoomed out and I just I don't exactly know what happened,
but I ended up flying over my bike I think
six to ten feet something like that, landing on my head.
So yeah, so a nurse, so there's a school there,
and a nurse kind of ran out to help me.
I got up. I'm like, I'll be fine, but then
I like almost passed out. I couldn't really see for
a while. I was very hazy. I had to lay down.
The ambulance came. It's a little embarrassing. A lot of
people stopped to help me, very nice people. There's a
good community sort of with the you know, cyclers there,
and you know, I went to the emergency room and
here we are cast, which allows me to do nothing.
So I've been writing call. I've written three columns since then,
using my right left point run exactly. I use the
audio to text programs and they are just terrible. They
just do not capture the words I'm saying. Maybe I
have some crazy accent or something. I don't know, but
that's been difficult. But you know what, I will appreciate
my right hand a lot more once I'm out of
this cast, though I may need surgery. We'll see about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I when I tore some tendons, like more than
a decade ago in my left ankle foot thing, I
realized that I did not appreciate the use of my
limbs as much as I should. And my pastor even
said something about that, like when you're laying on your back,
you're looking heavenward, you know, you're thinking about how much
you're not appreciating all the all the gifts that God
has given us. But I am sure glad you're alive too.
Tell you this that my brother once went bum over
handlebars and when he was at the University of Colorado
Boulder and tore his scrotum, so it could have been worse.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm laughing at that. I know he's fine,
so everything's fine, but it is horrible. It is I
you know, I have I have not spoken to a
cyclist who's been doing it for a while, who hasn't
been in some big, horrible, you know, accident. And I
hope this will be my last one. But I can't
wait to get back at it. It's a great you know,
it's a great exercise. I love doing it so but
thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you get better soon. What's that? How
many weeks do you have to be in the cast?
Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you between you and me, I'm
not gonna be in it much longer because I can't
take it and I'd rather like deal with the pain.
Speaker 1: Or whatever happened having a bent arm or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I may have some weird knuckle thing going on
after this, said my doctor. But you know what, I
don't it sounds. I can tell you.
Speaker 1: This reminds me that again, like more than ten years ago,
I was cutting an avocado. I think I've told this before,
but I was cutting an avocado after I had been
already drinking tequila. I think I was making like an
emergency batch of guacamole, as you do, and I cut
into my finger. It was so bad, not a good
scene at all, and had to go to the emergency room.
And later I was talking to a friend of mine
who's this great nurse, and I asked her, like when
it would when my finger function would go back to normal,
and she was like, oh, yeah, it's probably never going
to go back to normal.
Speaker 2: So told me I'm sitting them like, I'm like in
the bed in the emergency room and some nurse just
comes over and sticks me with a tennis shot. That
her more than anything. But anyway, yeah I'm fine. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, when I tore my tenons, another my physical therapist,
I also asked her when is it going to be
back to normal? And she said how old are you?
And I told her and she was like, oh, yeah, no,
you don't heel when you're your age. You don't like
completely heal.
Speaker 2: I tore attending once in my life. Yeah, that was
I think the most painful entry I've ever had. The
tendon tear. That is some painful stuff.
Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. Yeah, but anyway, I pray you
get better. Okay. So this weekend, I was really busy
with a bunch of family stuff and I crawl into
bed late on Saturday night and I just checked my
phone and I was like, wait, what's happening in Los Angeles?
Saturday seemed to be a day of great activity in
Los Angeles? Did you track what was happening with the
riots there?
Speaker 2: I was turned off for a while. Yes, I was
kind of surprised when I saw that was happening as well.
But then I caught up and I think it's quite interesting.
I think there's a number of layers to this story.
The first, of course, part of it, of course, is
that we are here and this is happening because democratic administration,
especially the Biden administration. But actually it goes farther back
than that allowed millions of people who shouldn't be here
to overrun the border and stay and be in this country. So,
as we've talked about before, expelling them and deporting them,
which is completely within the law, is a difficult situation now,
you know, more difficult than it probably should be. So
I guess the first thing I want to talk about
is how democrats, and I mean from media all the
way through politicians, the mayor of Los Angeles, the governor
of California, are again doing what they always do, justifying
and rationalizing left wing violence or excusing it in some
way or giving the people who engage in it some
kind of dispensation. This is more left wing violence. It's
the Free Palestine people, you know, it's the Black Lives
Matter people, it's the you know, anti capitalist or whatever.
I mean. It's constantly the left wing, and we are
always told that it's you know that MAGA is about
to rise up and you know, become a terroristic movement,
when it's obviously the left. I mean, I think the
first thing that we should talk about left wing violence
in this country has been out of control for you know,
for a very long time decades.
Speaker 1: I mean, violence can happen from anywhere politically, of course, yeah,
but there's just no question that far and away the
most of the political violence comes from the left. It's
kind of a open thing that they talk about. They
have guides on how to foment violent riots and how
to achieve results with them. And corporate media are in
a bit of a pickle because they acted like the
few hour riot at the Capitol on January sixth was
the worst thing that ever happened in the history of mankind,
in part because some of the bad actors that day
went after policemen. And then you look in la and
they're trying to kill a bunch of policemen, not just
like having clashes because the police are there, like trying
to kill policemen, and the entire riots started. I mean,
there's a lot I want to talk about here, but
one of the most interesting things I learned from about
this weekend's riots was something that Tom Homan said on MSNBC.
So the conventional narrative, which has just been accepted uncritically,
is that the reason why all of a sudden, very
well financed and completely organized, as in organized over the
course of months, the reason why that all broke out
on Saturday or Friday night or whenever it was, was
because Ice rounded up some illegals at the home depot.
And that's a very well, it's a you know, that's
the kind of story where you go, oh, well, I
want to round up the really bad lawbreakers, like the
ones who break the law coming into the country and
then also rape, you know, my sister, But I don't
want to round up the people who are just breaking
the law and working illegally. That actually would have been
much more sympathetic a few years ago than now, when
people just realize that whether or not you're a violent criminal,
illegal alien or not, just illegal aliens themselves are causing
a great deal of problems in our country, whether it's
like you know, the number of people who are in
our public schools or at our hospitals, or causing traffic
accidents or whatever. You know that you don't have to
be a rapist to be a problem. But it turns
out that narrative wasn't even true that the reaction was
because Ice, because sorry, they had started to go after
the cartels in La. So there apparently has been an
investigation into money laundering by the Mexican cartels that have
been controlling our border for quite some time now, and
as they started to make a move on the cartels
is when the riots began. And a good on our
federal law enforcement for actually understanding the roll the cartels
play in this criminal enterprise and how money laundering is
an additional problem in addition to the human trafficking and
the drug trafficking and all of the breakdown of law
and order. But yeah, I thought that was interesting, and
people haven't really made a big deal out of it,
but it seems like more should be talked about this
attempt to go after the cartels in La.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even yes, I agree with that, But even
if they were going after people who worked in agriculture
or whatever, or peaceful in general, who have great sympathy
for actually and who you know, I mean, they're still
here illegally in ICE is allowed to round them up
and deport them. It's legal. The truth, though, is that
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department reported, before any National
Guard was deployed, that a crowd of one thousand protesters
I'm going to quote here, became increasingly agitated, throwing objects
and shibiting, violent behavior towards federal agents and deputy sheriffs,
federal agents. Donald Trump doesn't have to ask anyone to
deploy the National Guard. He can, and that's usually the
way it's been done. But you have a governor who
doesn't want to enforce the law and is not protecting
federal agents. I don't like the idea of military policing civilians,
I really don't. But if you have a government that's
not going to protect federal agents, that's a problem. Now
I'll give you another quote from Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bath.
She said, if immigration rates had not happened here, we
would not have the disorder that went on last night.
So what is she saying. She's saying that the very
idea that the federal government that ice agents are enforcing
law is why the illegality happened. So if you didn't
enforce the law, legality would illegality wouldn't happen. So I
think you need to send in the National Guard. This
is a place that is putting your agents in danger,
not allowing them to uphold the law. Karen Bass said
that she was in touch with like forgot what the
euphemism was, but for groups that are trying to undermine
federal agents from doing their job, I don't know how
big the riots. Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1: You got just so much to say even about this stuff.
First off, I was just thinking about something i'd seen
on Twitter about how the entire state of California has
claimed to be a sanctuary against enforcement of immigration law.
And that's a problem for California because the Supreme Court
has actually ruled on the issue of whether states can
have a different immigration enforcement than the federal government. So
when I don't remember which president it was, but some
president wasn't enforcing immigration, wasn't like enforcing the border or
something like that, and Arizona sued it must.
Speaker 2: Have been a li It was Obama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Obama, okay, And they sued in the Supreme Court
said no, like the Obama gets to set the immigration
law and not the state of Arizona. So already California
is at odds here, but the National Guard issue of
you know, they've been brought out to protect federal law
enforcement in a state that does not recognize the authority
of those Feds and protect federal buildings. One of the
things that was so upsetting about the disparate treatment of
the twenty twenty BLM riots versus the afternoon protest to
the Capitol in twenty twenty one is that the BLM
rioters went after the executive branch. They went after the
White House, and they caused I think it was sixty
serious injuries of federal law enforcement officers. They set out
buildings on fire at the White House, they forced the
President into a bunker, for which they were very pleased
with themselves. And by the way, the media loved it.
So did Mitt Romney. He marched with the bl rioters,
and that was an attack on the seat of government.
But when the media loved it, they treated it as
if this was like a noble cause. The BLM rioters
sieged a federal courthouse in Portland for months, not like
even in an afternoon or an evening, but for months
they kept the Marc O. Hatfield Federal courthouse under siege,
and nobody seemed to care. They burned a police precinct
to the ground, like a six story police precinct in
Minneapolis to the ground, in addition to the looting and
the arson and the killings and all of that stuff.
And back in twenty twenty, you'll remember that Tom Cotton
suggested that the National Guard be brought out to quell
the riots and to restore peace and law and order.
Even at the time he published this in The New
York Times, it was a position supported by a majority
of Americans, but only one person thought it was worthy
of discussion at the New York Times, and he got
fired I think or he quite under pressure, I don't know,
or after being treated horribly. The New York Times imploded
over the publication of this call for the National Guard,
and Donald Trump knew, so he wanted to bring the
National Guard up. He wanted to bring the National Guard
out on January sixth, you might remember, but Muriel Bowser
would not approve it and Nancy Pelosi would not approve it.
Then when the riot actually happened, then they claimed that
they would like the National Guard immediately. Well, it actually
takes time, as we're seeing even in these last few days.
It takes time to bring the National Guard out. So
the better option would have been to do what Donald
Trump wanted, which was to bring in ten thousand National
guardsmen to protect the Capitol and the people protesting in
and around January sixth. And he knows now that he's
not going to wait for Gavin Newsom to decide it's okay.
And he's also not going to deal with complete unrest
and riots hurting the entire summer and hurting Americans all
across the country like we all had to endure in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that spread quickly, very quickly. And I'd also say this,
I am if you're a city and you're a sanctuary city,
I've seen lawyers say that, you know, municipalities can do that.
So you don't want to your local you don't want
your local police, for instance, to arrest illegals, that's fine.
But when you are undermining federal law enforcement from doing
their job, which is what California does, that's a completely
different story. But let's talk about this. I want to quote.
Here's a quote from Brian Stelter on CNN. He says
that all his Los Angeles friends texted him and assured
him that ninety nine nine percent of LA is going
about their Sunday normally. This is like a reenactment of
the UH mostly peaceful stuff. January sixth, I was in DC.
I went and went around my day normally, did you
know what I mean? Like most people went, you know,
went about their day as if nothing was a miss
for almost any event Charlottesville. Yet those were covered, you know,
all day alone for years, this incessant need like the
the there's the politicians who diminish what's going on, and
then there's the media, which tries to tell you that
what you're seeing is not even real. So I had
a little deja vu, right. I heard there was a
wreckoning in media. I heard that things are going to
get better. I heard you know this and that, and
yet the same people, the same dude is still on
CNN doing the same stuff that that station. Because if
you'll remember, the mostly peaceful UH story was from I
think Wisconsin when they had that big right there, fiery
but mostly peaceful protesters after police shooting. So we're back
at it again. People in Los Angeles, which is a sprawling,
huge metropolis, don't want their lives to be, you know,
to have anarchy in their lives.
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Speaker 1: First off, I just want to like put a point
on what you just said about Brian Stelter's idiotic tweet
that his wealthy white friends in Los Angeles were not
noticing any riots in their neighborhood. As you point out,
Los Angeles is a sprawling city. I don't know how
many millions of people live there, but it has eighty
eight cities. Like eighty eight cities and towns make up
the County of Los Angeles. It goes for five hundred
and two point seven square miles. It goes forty four
miles north to south and twenty nine miles east to west.
So Brian Stelter saying that his buddies in the wealthy
enclaves of Los Angeles hadn't noticed anything, is like saying.
It would be like if Brian Stelter said that he
talked to someone in Baltimore on January sixth, and they
actually did not see any rioting at the Capitol, Like it's.
Speaker 2: So insane, But it's a standard that you would never
use for some right wing thing, right like Charlottesville. Well,
where Charlottesville happened, the tiki torch Nazis were out. First
of all, every conservative had to answer for that, you
know what I mean. You had to like beg everyone
for forgiveness that it happened, Like you actually agreed with
those people. You were part of that movement in some
way your conduct. You had to denounce it, which was
a way to give you ownership of what was happening.
But no one even though, and I throw in the
free Palestine stuff too, they use this. People use the
same rhetoric. They're part of the same movement. They have
the same ideas, the same ideology, and they never they
act like it has nothing to do with them. Sometimes
they act like it's not even happening really, you know,
and it is just so frustrating. But again, I just
feel like it's it's not the same anymore. I don't
think people buy it. I bet you if you polled
people in California right now, most of them would want
the National Guard there, you know, bringing back order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. But one of the things
that's interesting is polling indicates that by and large, the
vast majority of Americans support Donald Trump on his immigration policies,
and they, you know, he wasn't quiet about what he
wanted to do with the deportation of people who are
here illegally. People voted for it. But even though eighty
eight percent of Republicans and like sixty percent of independence
are totally on board, only twenty five percent of Democrats,
so seventy five percent of Democrats are very opposed to
the deportation of illegal immigrants, And so in the Democrat
Party there's not really an incentive to speak out against
this at all. You saw John Fetterman say that he
thought this looked bad for Democrats. And you've heard a
couple other people say this looks bad for Democrats. You
have not seen anyone say trying to kill police officers
is immoral. It's not just, you know, illegal, it's a
moral and you should stop because it's wrong. They say
you should stop because it makes the Democrat Party look bad,
which is weak sauce. And then most of them aren't
even saying that because they're actually so reporting it. So
you are going to see these riots expand. The plan
is for them to expand nationwide. As I was driving
home from the airport just now, I saw that left
wingers were on and overpass. The movement is called No Kings,
which I think must have resonance among left wingers, but
I don't think it does with normal people. And so
they're calling for the abolition of ice. One of my
wealthy white neighbors, I don't have any idea if they're wealthy,
but their house looks nice has a flag out that
says abolish ice in my neighborhood. Like they want to
abolish rule of law when it comes to borders and
border security, and they're being open about it, and in
their echo chamber that's actually really resonant. What's changed is,
as you note, nobody in the rest of America is
like falling forward anymore. Everyone understands these things are well organized,
well funded by a bevy of left wing powerful foundations.
They don't like the unrest and the chaos and the
and the arson and the looting like we saw in
La this week, you know, looting the shops of immigrants
and stealing their cash registers and putting them out of business.
People don't like that stuff, and they're not going to
be bullied into liking it on such an unfavorable cause.
So with BLM, you had this like like what we
called like mass psychosis, that everyone was forced to bend
the knee. Literally they would get on their knees and
bow down to the Marxist BLM movement. It was embarrassing.
Anyone who did it should be ashamed for the rest
of their life unless they repent and turn away from it.
But you had like everyone turning their Facebook things black
and just like getting totally caught up in it.
Speaker 2: And do you remember the remember or Nancy Pelosi kneeling
doing that whole black panther thing or whatever. It was
just embarrassing.
Speaker 1: And Romney marching with them and all that, and like
all the corporations gave a hundred billion dollars to Marxist causes.
By the way, BLM's big thing was tranny stuff, and
they you wonder like why did tranny stuff get so crazy?
So you know so quickly, Well, that was one of
BLM's main initiatives, in addition to the prohamas. They're also
for transing children. You know, it wasn't really even about
race stuff, really, although I think they were particularly concerned
about black trans children getting healthy body parts cut off
or something. But this is not even a sympathetic cause.
Breaking laws is not a sympathetic cause in the same
way that BLM could be portrayed as a sympathetic cause.
Speaker 2: So many things to say. So, first of all, you know,
the rich white people live in in cloistered, you know, neighborhoods,
of course, never care when you know, you know, a
working class neighborhood has to suffer through this sort of thing.
But you will remember when DeSantis drop just a few
illegal immigrants off and was Martha's vineyard or something, there
was like a complete meltdown of that community. They couldn't
handle it. At all.
Speaker 1: Do you remember who they called out to help, Oh.
Speaker 2: A national guard.
Speaker 1: National Guard.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: So you can use national guard to get rid of
immigrants ins in neighborhoods. We don't want them in, but
you can't do it.
Speaker 2: Then there was this sort of logical formulation that you
mentioned that I saw some Prohamas people doing too, Like
it's bad to kill, it's bad to firebomb Jews because
it's bad for the Palestinian cause you know not that
it's just immoral. So here's a Newsome, Gavin Newsom, don't
give Trump what he wants. Stay calm, stay peaceful. How
about state calm and stay peaceful, because that's moral and
normal and violence is wrong. Adam Schiff says something similar.
Violence is never the answer. Assaulting law enforcement is never okay. Indeed,
doing so plays directly into the hands of those who
seek to antagonize and weaponize the situation for their own games.
So they're weaponizing the situation because they're following the law.
This is kind of a perverse partisan virtue signaling. I
just can't imagine a normal person reads that and thinks
it's okay. I just I hope not.
Speaker 1: Well, we're also you know, during the BLM riots of
twenty twenty, a lot of interesting things were deployed. There
were massive legitimate public protests that would be at the
front of the BLM action. Violent people would be behind
and so they would be kind of hidden with shields
and otherwise they would lob projectiles over the peaceful people,
but at any law enforcement, and then if the law
enforcement wanted to respond, they had to like go through
the peaceful people. It was very you know, it's very
well thought out. These people really think through their tactics.
One of the problems and one of the things that
they're really trying to gin up like the left wing media,
and they're really really really working hard, is to get
a big group of actual Americans protesting like they did
in twenty six seen so that they can employ the
same tactics of taking over the White House or taking
over the Federal Courthouse or burning down whatever they want
to burn down ice facilities. But they need more real
people to do it because right now everyone can look
at it and go, oh, those are professional activists, Like
these people are going to the truck and getting the
riot shields and the helmets that you just recommended. Everybody
get I don't think you meant the protesters, but you know,
they're getting expensive material and it's very well organized. You
can see. You know, if you're a journalist, you get
on all these publicity lists. So all of the Soros
funded groups are sending out emails saying how much they
support these riots, and they're trying to make them go nationwide.
I would not be shocked if they did within a
few days here, and listen.
Speaker 2: I want to say this just so that people don't
misunderstand kind of the broader point. You can have a
move like's say I'm pro live. If someone went and
shot some people over that, cause, that doesn't mean the
cause itself is wrong. I would immediately condemn that and
say it's evil and terrible, right, which Democrats don't do
in these cases. But I think that we are now
seeing that with the Free Palestine stuff, with the BLM stuff,
and now with this stuff, that violence is central almost
to the cause, or not violence always, but disruption. If
you want to protest, that's fine, But these people are
closing down streets, They're inhibiting other people from moving around.
That's not protected by the First Amendment, you know, So
I I have abused that.
Speaker 1: I don't think I can say publicly about what you
what should happen to you if you are shutting down
a highway while someone's trying to get to the hospital
to deliver a baby in a crisis pregnancy. Like I
actually think it's much more serious than we take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, well, it's like, oh, they shut down the highway.
It's like, do you understand what that does to people
and their lives? Like fire trucks can't get to fires,
and people can't get the medical care they need, and
even things like a woman can't get to a job
she needs to get to so she can put food
on her kids table. Like it's not funny, haha.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I do not exaggerate when I say
that the cost of shutdowns like that going to the
billions of dollars of time that people and you know
that people lose and all that. I'm not making that up.
I don't have the stats in front of me, but
BLM did that quite often, and this is a huge
price to pay. And it's not a First Amendment right
to stop other people from moving around. In fact, it's
the opposite.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say a few other things
really quickly about the media coverage of this, because the
propaganda has ramped up twenty twenty style and The New
York Times had a piece where they said, do not
believe your lying eyes about these riots. Trust us, you know,
the New York Times to tell you that these riots
aren't really happening. And you're seeing that at CNN and
other left wing Democrat media. They're just telling people, do
not believe what you're seeing. These are deep fakes and
cheap fakes. Was it like last week when they were
claiming that they were sorry for lying to you and
saying that videos of Biden were cheap fakes and that
you shouldn't believe your lying eyes.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not idiots. We realized the whole city
of Los Angeles is not burning down. That doesn't mean
that doesn't mean that there isn't something happening. Can I
also quickly just interject, like this idea that someone shows
up here, like let's say the National Guard showed up
on my street, would I go out and throw them
molotov cocktails at them? No? I don't understand why that's
a provocation for you, Like upholding the law provokes you
to violence doesn't provoke me to violence. And even if
I disagreed with what was going on, there are legal
avenues to take. There are you could protest legally, you
can whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, I don't recognize the justness of laws
about citizenship and borders. They just don't. Like Gavin Newsom doesn't,
Karen Bass doesn't, Adam Shift doesn't, and the protesters and
the rioters don't. They think there should be no borders,
and that anyone who wants to come here and use
my money to go to school or get healthcare, or
get food or get you know, whatever the thing is,
they think they have a right to that your money
and my money, and that it's unjust to say that.
In fact, civilization does require certain rules for entry into
our society.
Speaker 2: Civil disobedience is something else as well, like you can
block a road, but then there are consequences. But these
soros DA types, like in New York, Alvin Bragg, they
take over a whole library, they vandalize it, they don't
let other kids study or do the things they want
to do, and then he doesn't even charge them. I
suspect in California, a lot of these people who are arrested.
I forgot how many were will not even be charged
in the end, you know, the law will not apply
to them.
Speaker 1: I saw this too, a bunch of people being like, oh,
I think Donald Trump would be on stronger ground had
he not pardoned a bunch of j six rioters a
few months ago. It's like, well, let's get back to
this topic. After the people in LA have their have
everyone they've ever talked to rounded up and rated in
the middle of night, have to wait years to go
through the court process, are being tried in a jurisdiction
with one hundred percent conviction rate because people are you know,
not thinking rationally, like let's and then and then, and
then we can talk about whether the situation is similar.
These people aren't even going to be charged. They're not
going to be charged like maybe one or two. When
you look at what happened for the BLM violence, Yeah,
you had some people charged. Most of them would have
their charges dropped or even if they weren't, it was
just like a slap on the hand. And they also
got really great legal help from Democrat community. That's one
of the issues that the right is dealing with right now,
which we might want to save for another show. But
the rights legal community was more or less completely a
wall during the most terrific era of law fair this
country has ever seen under the Biden presidency. And now
they kind of want the people to still support their
movement when they just did nothing to help people who
were facing really sobering, you know, attacks from the federal government.
But yeah, these people, I would be shocked if they
get charged.
Speaker 2: Well, I just want quickly say, as it pertains to
January sixth, Democrats brought that on themselves as well in
a way. Obviously a lot of those people and I
don't have I'm not as sympathetic to most of them
who acted a certain way, but guess what, most of
them were peaceful. And yet the kind of like blanket,
you know, overcharging, overreach of that whole situation, it made
people into martyrs in a way. Who didn't you know,
because there are a lot of people who were just
there or were not violent at all, et cetera, et cetera.
That's not the case here. The people being arrested are
clearly out there, clearly agitating for violence and clearly trying
to stop federal agents from upholding the law.
Speaker 1: This is not the point of what you just said.
But it's a pet peeve of mine. Again. I saw
someone ostensibly conservative on Twitter mocking the idea that certain
people who were caught up in the J six stuff
had the door to the Capitol opened for them. This
is not in dispute. Yes, some people were violent, some
people were attacking cops and breaking windows and just being
horrific other people. Again, we have it on video, the
police opening the doors and just like letting people go
right in. There is a difference between these two groups.
And if you're a conservative, so called conservative, so called journalist,
and you don't know the basic facts of that, it's embarrassing. Okay,
that had nothing. I just had to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think, yeah, I think you diminish how
bad some of those people were by treating everyone as
if they were equally bad, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: So okay, speaking of the media, David Harsani, did you
see that Terry Moran late at night one night this
weekend need about his extreme personal hatred for Stephen Miller
and Donald Trump. And do you know who Terry Moran is?
Speaker 2: Well, A, yes, I know Terry Moran is. In fact,
he used to follow me and I used to follow
him and he would chime in on my stuff occasionally
and be mean to me, I think, but I have
to tell you something and you may disagree. Maybe this
is controversial. I'm not sure why he was fired and
not like a thousand other people who lied about stories,
who misled the entire country. Like I'd rather have a
reporter emote sometimes, even though I think it's unprofessional, and
what he said I think is unprofessional, but emote about
something rather than lie about stuff. And I don't know.
Maybe Terry Moran was lying about stuff too in the past.
But what I mean is it's funny to me, what
gets you fired by ABC News, which is in my
column all the time, for lying and misleading the American people, Right,
So I don't know, Yeah, and whatever I mean, I
think they didn't renew his contract technically or something, but
obviously it was. He was suspended for this tweet, so.
Speaker 1: I don't know, suspended pretty quickly, yeah, and then within
days they announced that they were not renewing his contract.
So yeah, he's not only suspended, he's been let go.
Speaker 2: I've always tried to avoid ad hominem kind of attacks
on people, though occasionally I've done it myself because I
think some people deserve it. Sometimes I can't help it,
but I just he's supposed to be a neutral meeting.
He's not give being a columnist, and he's out there
sort of personally attacking someone who doesn't really know who
he disagrees with vehemently. But again, I just I think
there are worst sins in journalism and people don't get
fired for them. I think lying, I think the Rush
collusion hook stuff. I think the the misleading, for instance,
people about riots for the BLA. I mean, there's just,
you know, all the stuff the Kavanaughs people got away
with smearing him as a as a gang rapist, who
still have their jobs.
Speaker 1: So I agree with much of what you said, mostly
the part where you said why him and not hundreds
of other people? And I'm like, yeah, hundreds of bad
reporters should be fired. I think the reason why he
got fired and why I would have actually preferred for
him not to be fired, is the same thing, which
is his openness about his bias that he shares with
one hundred percent of his fellow reporters was the problem.
So what you're supposed to do is be Trump deranged insane,
crazy with your hatred, but put on this like newsman's
voice where you act like you are somehow not insane.
And he let the mask slip. And it embarrassed ABC
because they're trying to pretend that they are a news organization.
And when you're out there openly admitting that you're consumed
with hatred for the man you're supposed to cover, like
he's the he's the White House guy, right, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's he's a big guy over there. I
think I don't watch too much of this stuff.
Speaker 1: So they kind of knew that every day he continued
would make it harder for ABC to continue its larger operation,
which is hatred for Donald Trump. And if you could
just point at the guy and go, oh, yeah, that's
the guy who just like, have you heard that? It's
I'm not gonna use the actual word that I always liked.
But he showed his bum, he showed his behind, his backside.
It was embarrassing to ABC. That's why he had to go.
But is he any worse than any of the others.
I would say he's like a little worse than some
of the others who do a much better job of
hiding their hatred for Republicans. He just doesn't do a
good job with it at all. As you noted, Twitter
was not good for him. He would let things fly
and then he would try to like make up for
it with a tweet that made him seem not so crazy.
But he's a bad reporter. Yeah, everyone who covered the
Biden White House should be fired, except for the like
five who would get punished for saying like, sir, are
you sure you're okay? And then they would like not
call on those people for like a year.
Speaker 2: I guess I feel like, and maybe it's because of
how I am, that losing your temper and saying something
stupid about someone is something you should be able to
apologize for. Whereas spending years covering up that the president
is completely you know, is not capable of doing his job,
which is near almost treason in a way. I think
that that is a far bigger transgression. And all I'm
saying is it's weird to me who gets fired in
the media, and he should have been able to apologize
for this. Now. I don't know what Terry Moran does.
Maybe he's had one hundred bad stories. Maybe he helped
cover up the White House too. That's but that's what
he should have been fired for, not.
Speaker 1: A bad He deserves firing. You can just be more
upset about other people who deserve firing even more not.
Speaker 2: Being listen, I'm not upset. I think these people have
been terrible. All I'm saying is it's slightly confusing what
we're supposed to be mad about, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, I know he feels that way about Steven Miller.
They all feel that way about Steven Miller. Frankly, I'm
not a huge fan myself, but if you lie about him,
that should be a fireable offense, like losing your temper
on Twitter. I just don't think it's that big a
deal and saying something.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I think I accurately committed. He got fired
because he embarrassed them, and he made it more difficult
for them to run their propaganda. So you're right that
in that sense it's unfair, But it's not actually unfair
for Terry Moran, a really bad reporter, to lose his job.
They all should lose their job, and they all should
work far, far far away from any news and information
sharing space. I also love like I tweeted out our
Federalist article, which turned out to be a prophecy fulfilled
thing that the headline was like, Terry Murran shouldn't be suspended,
he should be fired, And then like the next day
he was fired, and someone said, oh, but like, I
don't know, he said someone at Fox News who like
Sean Hannity shouldn't be fired because he didn't like Biden.
And I'm like, I understand that not everybody is a
journalist or understands how journalism works. Sean Hannity does not
purport to be an independent newsman. Terry Moran did. Sean
Hannity purports to be someone who shares his opinion every
day on radio and TV, you know, like Terry Moran
claimed he was reporting the news. There is a difference
in expectations for the behavior of someone who claims to
be reporting news, even if he was also an opinion
person in disguise, and someone who is openly an opinion person.
Speaker 2: The central problem here is that we pretend that people
don't have opinions. I mean, there should be a Terry
Moran on the right on ed ABC SEE, and that's
what should happen and have him a report from that side.
I mean, that's the only way I think you're going
to have any kind of you know, balance at these places.
Speaker 1: You mentioned how he should have been allowed to just
apologize and keep going, and that reminds me about Simone
Biles also showing her bumb this weekend. Did you see
her just like go crazy on Riley Gains in defense
of having men compete in women's sports.
Speaker 2: He was in Ye, I saw it. I didn't take
a deep dive on what was going on though. So
she's she's a famous gymnast, and she said what.
Speaker 1: So Simone Biles famous gymnasts in many ways, a great gymnast,
but also a lot of people know about her because
she flaked at the last Olympics and couldn't perform because
she got the hebgb's or whatever, and then got really
defiant about it and complained about anybody who was like, hey,
that's kind of crappy that you're at the Olympics and
you can't compete, you know, And she's married to a
professional NFL player, and she went so hard against Riley Gaines.
I want to say about Simone Biles, she's a lovely woman,
and like most gymnasts, I think they kind of like,
I think the sport itself is very hard on the
female body. And so her choice of the way she
went after Riley Gaines was really weird because Riley Gaines
was a swimmer and a beautiful lady. And Simone Bile
said about Riley Gaines's efforts to protect women's sports that
Riley Gaines should pick on someone her own size, and ironically,
in her case, that means a male. I'm like, I
don't think Simone Biles should be talking about masculine body
types because like the gymnast body type sometimes looks like
twelve year old boy, you know, more than anything else. So,
like it just was a weird way to go, Like
you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Go after very caddy, very caddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't go after anyone's like physical appearance anyway,
but you like really shouldn't when you're exposed. And then
she doubled down and she called Riley Gaines a bully
for trying to protect women's sports and trying to protect
girls from having to compete against boys. I think she
mocked her for not placing first in a sports competition
and thereby saying she had no right to talk about it.
I mean, it was just crazy. And of course someone
Biles makes a ton of money in endorsements, including from Athleta,
and so I'm sure ours was not the only publication
that was ringing up Athleta and other sponsors to ask
if they supported things. And so she had a publicist.
It was clearly not her, but she had a publicist,
right like a quasi apology where she the only thing
she apologized for was quote unquote like getting personal with
Riley Gaines. And then she had like a gobbledygook word
salad where she tried her best to walk back her
complete face plant on the issue of whether girls should
have to compete against boys.
Speaker 2: I saw someone tweet underneath that word salad, looks like
you've won a gold medal and mental gymnastics as well
or something. I saw that that was one of these
definitely pr you know, just a lot of words. Puffery
didn't really say anything. Someone dug up an old tweet
of hers where she kind of mocks she says we
shouldn't have to compete, or something about competing against men
or machines.
Speaker 1: Try to do a routine that a male gymnast did
and she just like couldn't even come close to it,
And then she commented, good thing men don't have to compete,
or that we don't have to compete against men because
I would lose, which is true. Like I don't feel
bad about being a woman this way. Like women have
many strengths and virtues that men don't have on average,
you know, I mean, like we do things like we
give birth to children, which is really amazing and requires
a lot of strength, but we are physically weaker. We're
the weaker sex men just by on average, by virtue
of like how they're made and how they're distinct from
women are stronger, faster, like the facts. Okay, Also, David Harsani,
I know that you love the climate activist Greta Tunberg
or Tunenberg. Did you see what she was up to
this week?
Speaker 2: I did. I quickly want to say, what's interesting about
her becoming part of the free Palestine move? And I
looked it up. She was also marched for Black Lives Matters,
and she was obviously famous for dropping out of high school,
and well she was Times Person of the Year, right, yeah,
in twenty nineteen. You know why quote raising awareness for
climate change. Before twenty nineteen, no one ever heard of
climate change until Grete Thumberg came around. But anyway, it's
all connected, the funding for all of it's connected, the
sort of ideological grounding for it all is all connected
at all. Let's not forget Antifa as well. I saw
these people yelling at cops in La a bunch of
people with in masks yelling about imperial is, and some
copy yells back, you don't know even know what that means.
But they had a big you know, they had a
Mexican flag, which, by the way, is a mistake if
you're you know, you're telling me you want to be here,
but yet you have a Mexican flag, it's anyway. But
they also had a Free Palestine Palestinian flag. So it's
now like all these all these threads, all these sort
of extremist threads, become one. Anyway. Greta Thunberg was on
a selfie yacht as it's called, trying to break a
naval blockade of Gaza. The Israelis picked her up. She
said she had been kidnapped by the Israelis. They sent
her home on a plane, gave her food all of that.
She when she was younger, and I wrote about this
when I was at the Federalist years ago. She could
lecture us about everything. She's a high school dropout. Now listen,
I'm not say every high school dropout is an intelligent
I'm saying she's not intelligent. She was like us about everything,
and you weren't allowed to say anything because she was
just a child with Asperger right syndrome. Right. And now
she's twenty two year old woman. So I think it's
fair for us all to point out that she's an
extraordinary imbecile. She knows nothing. You watch these interviews with her.
She can barely talk about anything. No one asks her
a serious question about any of the issues she champions
because she couldn't answer them. And here's what really made
me sort of angry. So they pick her up and
they her and a bunch of other idiots. They say,
we have these videos of what happened in twenty twenty three,
all the murders. She says, the Israelis tried to make
me watch all kinds of propaganda videos, but I didn't watch.
This is nothing compared to what's happening in Gaza. Those
videos are go pro videos filmed by the Palestinian terrorists
who came in to kill women, children, the elderly, and men.
And it's one thing to be an idiot about climate
change and say what you do, But when you become
a useful idiot for terrorists, I think we have every
right to go add hominem on you and ask why
has the media lifted up someone who has nothing interesting
to say, nothing compelling to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, just stardom. Yeah, I think that's actually a real issue.
It's like that woman that the New York Times and
the Washington Post were like fighting over who could employ
her the most, and she's legit insane, Taylor Lorenz Lorenz.
And people would always get mad at Taylor Lorenz for
being crazy. And I'm like, well, that is true that
she's very bad. She's very you know, she does evil things.
That's true. Why are the supposed adults of the New
York Times in Washington Post employing her? You know, at
some point there are more responsible people who shouldn't be
playing around with this. Greta Tunberg was manipulated by her parents.
By her own admission and their own admission, she is
on the autism spectrum in a way that you can
see that she has trouble processing information. As Trump pointed out,
she has angry issues. I think her parents manipulating and
using her to be a climate change activist was really wrong.
But also they couldn't have done it without the help
of the corporate media. They're the ones who really amplified
her and made her into something. And as you note,
she doesn't know anything about anything. She knows how to
be angry. Remember when she yelled in an angry way,
but like she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 2: Remember that emotional outburst she had, completely frivolous. You know,
you have stolen my dreams. She didn't say anything. She
didn't say anything. Now here's the thing. I love debating
and people, you know whatever, you know, we do what
we do. But you know, there's research that goes into it.
I read a lot of things. I try to know things.
I try to, you know, under stand what's going on.
She doesn't do any of that, So why should we
even bother trying to was trying to debunk her today
in a column like why am I even bothering? Like
she doesn't know what she's talking about. She's just sort
of propped up by media She's in every single outlet
you know, and I just don't see what the reason
is she should be treated like what she is an idiot.
Speaker 1: On the October seven footage, I have had multiple opportunities,
as you might say, to watch that, and I have
declined because I can't handle stuff like that. That day
on Twitter when that happened, I remember everything, and it
was very hard, like I could I couldn't believe, like
it was so horrible to see what Hamas was tweeting
out like they're proudly tweeting out. It was horrible, like
it gives me, Oh, it's just horrible. I saw more
than I wanted to on the day of the attack,
and I do not think I will ever be able
to watch a video like So I'm not opposed to
her not watching that. What I'm opposed is, I'm opposed
to her not wanting to be informed about the atrocities
committed by Hamas. While defending Hamas, she has.
Speaker 2: Never once, incidentally, I mean, you can advocate for gosins
and say all you want, but she has never once,
at least according to AI, because I did all the
research I could, and then I asked AI ever advocated
for the release of the people, the women, the civilians
who are being held in some basement and being tortured
right now in Rafa are somewhere on Outnumbered.
Speaker 1: Yesterday, Kaylie mcnaney said that one of the people on
the yacht she was on that got intercepted by Israel
denies denies that the Babis family was abducted, that the
kids were abducted, like, just denies that it happened. It's
like an October seven denier.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, funded this thing, some like hamas
operative person. So one of the people on the boats
this Okay, I'm going to stop calling people stupid right now,
but just know that everyone I'm talking about here I
think very lowly low of them. He's an actor from
Game of Thrones. He was the Onion King. I don't
know if you know that guy is an Irish actor.
Speaker 1: I do not watch violent porns, right.
Speaker 2: You forgot to say incestuous violent porn. And you know,
so just a bunch of the people who you know.
By the way, sixty two trucks with aid went into
gozz of the day she was lifted off. That flotilla
ship went into Gaza from Israel with food. They had
almost nothing on those ships. It's just a you know,
this is exactly what she wanted to happen, and it did. Anyway,
I wish you're the worst.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's talk about all the exciting cultural things
we've done since the last week. I'm worried that you
did nothing other than break your wrist.
Speaker 2: I did some stuff. You want me to go first,
I do. I watched a documentary on led Zeppelin called
Becoming led Zeppelin, which was a fan I'm not a
huge fan of led Zep. I'm not not a fan.
It's just I grew up hearing it all the time,
so I kind of got I think I just got
sick of it. But it is really really well done,
and it's interesting for even if you're not a fan
of led Zeppelin, because it gives this overview of the
times and it's just really well done. I don't know,
I just I recommend it. It's on Netflix. And the
other thing I watch is a like a game show
reality show. It's called Million Dollar Secret. It's on Netflix
as well, So I guess the premise would be that
you're in a house with a bunch of people. I
forgot how many. Let's say ten, and every day one
person is given a million dollars, and that person has
given tasks that they have to perform to get to
do things so on, and they have to trick everyone
else in the house. And if you carry the million
dollars to the very end, you win. But if the
others vote every episode, if they vote and figure it
out that it's you, then you're out. And even if
they vote and it's not you, you're still out. But
the person stall is a million and they go to
the next episode. I thought i'd hate it, and I
actually quite.
Speaker 1: Uh where is it like Netflix?
Speaker 2: Netflix? Yeah, that's it for me. I was on the mend.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I've been really busy, so I haven't done
a ton of interesting things. But I did visit the
battle site at Fredericksburg. Have you been there?
Speaker 2: I think I have been there, yeah.
Speaker 1: A while back, and I found it really interesting. I
think it was like one of the first examples of
that kind of urban warfare because they ended up like
just fight in the streets of Fredericksburg. But it's a
pretty easy to do site where you can get a
feel for what it was like and where Lee was
and it was a poorly thought out attack by the
Union forces, and it was done or it seems like
it was poorland not moralely. They probably should have waited
to do it, but they felt under pressure from Lincoln
for a variety of reasons, which helped the Confederate Forces
vanquish them. But it just seemed like horrific. So I
like that. And then I had family in town, so
I was doing a couple of things this weekend with them,
and I also visited the National Air and Space Museum's
Oudvar Hazy Annex.
Speaker 2: Where is that in Dulles over? There?
Speaker 1: Is it Dullest?
Speaker 2: I've been there. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I've been there, and I have to say I love it,
like I'd go back. They have a thunderbird, they have
a space shuttle. Yeah, it's great, the literal Enola Gay.
They have a concord. It's just like so fun to
look at. So that was really fun. And then I
am also like trying to work on my summer plans,
and so I am excited to be going to my
favorite conference that I go to most years, which is
the Issues Etc. Making the Case Conference, And it's this
wonderful two day event for Christian Laity, and Mark and
I will be speaking there. It's July eighteenth, and it's
Friday July eighteenth Saturday, July nineteenth. It's at Concordia University, Chicago,
and we'll be speaking Scott Jennings, the awesome CNN political commentator.
We'll be speaking doctor Carl Truman, who's the author of
The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self. And so
I know some people who listen to this show. I
know they go because last year I learned that they
listen to our show. But other people might be interested
in it as well. So if you are interested, I
could not recommend this conference more highly. It's my absolute
favorite conference for Christian laity. And actually I just want
to say too, a lot of conferences for Christians, I
think sometimes they're geared toward like professional church workers or pastors.
But the issues that face Christian laity are different than
what face like an actual you know, congregation or a pastor,
which they can kind of be protected by some of
the laws in the way that normal not that other
people are abnormal Christians, but that you know, just like
your average Christian lay person is. And so this is
like really geared toward us and I think that's why
I like it so much. And I also like the
people who go. So if you're interested in learning more
or registering, go to Issues etc. Dot org and also
let me know if you're going, so I can keep
an eye out for you. But if you haven't gone,
definitely go. If I've seen you there before, I hope
you're going back and we'll be doing that. Yeah in
mid July.
Speaker 2: Sounds exciting, is it? Like you but I'm not Christian Laity?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what were you? What were you asking though?
Speaker 2: Is it for all all denominations and everything? Where is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anyone can go, and like last year, Archbishop Quarterly Oone
spoke and it is it's like mostly Lutheran, but there
are definitely other people reformed or otherwise. So and if
and anyone you probably like, if you're a Christian person,
you've probably heard of Issues et cetera, which is a
great podcast. So it's just more it's like that.
Speaker 2: So sounds good. Okay, well you're running the show, Molly.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot So hopefully I'll actually watch some
TV or otherwise or do something I do. I am
thinking I might go to the military parade this weekend
to celebrate the Army's two hundred and fiftieth birthday in DC.
Because I'm a sucker for fireworks and other stuff, so
I might might go to that, and if so, I'll
report back next week. But yes, so don't forget to
email us at radio at the Federalist dot com. And
we love to get that email. David in particular loves
getting your email and.
Speaker 2: True but let me just say this a lot of
people have sent me very good TV recommendations lately, so
keep those coming, any kind of cool British show. I
love that stuff. Thank you great.
Speaker 1: Well until next week, the lovers of freedom and anxious.
Speaker 2: Bit of prod, I want you. I want to