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Do anybody think this BA team will be a zero?
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was perfect, and we'll be like that when we get
resurrected in the next life. Without further ado, let's fire
up the esp and the fans start a line up,
and I can introduce you to the wonderful of you
beautiful co hosts.
Speaker 4: They are beautiful. One of them is already married. One
of them is getting married.
Speaker 3: Today's edition, Thursday, October thirtieth, The Cougar Sports. Let's start
with the man that gets married. He's got the ring
on the finger right now. We gotta turn up on
Saturday on November first. We got our version of a
p That's right, he can go for two thousand yards
of the season.
Speaker 4: Andrew Peterson, Brother, how are we doing today?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 7: I'm doing great because this is actually the last day
that I will ever work.
Speaker 5: This is my last.
Speaker 8: Working day as a singer, as a non married man.
Speaker 5: Aha, a non married man, and is there any better
way to like?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 7: I told my my fiance this that when we were
playing the wedding I was like, listen, I know you
want to get.
Speaker 8: Married during the semester in the fall.
Speaker 5: I only have one request. I want to do it on.
Speaker 4: A He's he's a simple man.
Speaker 5: That was my request. Can we just do it on
a bye week?
Speaker 7: Because I had one simply who did it. I'm a
big I was a big Vway bank growing.
Speaker 8: Up, so I'm not I'm not like something came out of.
Speaker 7: The market into this market. But growing up I was
a huge BYU fan, and there was absolutely no excuse
for missing a BYU game, and my sister made me
miss two ooh because she had her wedding on one
and she took over the TV for a date on
the other with the same man. And I almost like,
the only thing that made me forgive them is that
they have two kids that I can play with at
her my niece and nephew, and absolutely adorable. They could
be forgiven, but I was just like, from that moment on,
I was like, my wedding will not be on a
BYU game.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's a The wedding is important. I can't lie
getting sealed for all time and eternity. I believe what
temple you might tell us, the Desert Peach Temple.
Speaker 4: The Desert Peak Temple. So there you go. So it's
it's weddings are important.
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it seem that way because
if I forget December twentieth, my wife will get mad.
I never will forget it. If anything, she's the dory
in the family that we'll forget it. She's okay with
me saying that, But yeah, that's important. But BA football
is also important. Faith, family football. That's the way we go.
You're gonna have both of them. You did it a perfect time,
no better way to do it, a boy, because the
ain't know you gonna miss that BYU text that game
next week?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. Let's welcome in the proprietor.
Speaker 3: Uh who love to If I had to go two
on two basketball, I'll probably take this guy because he's gritty.
Speaker 4: Always say this.
Speaker 3: Anytime you seeing a brother now and not a brother,
a brother wren that has a nice fade, that gets
nice fades, they must know something about what they're doing.
Speaker 4: I look at that different.
Speaker 3: Then I found out this brother's from the atl from Penzen, Like, ah,
that's my type of peoples for shouldn't I say the others?
I been like, he understands because he's from sec country.
He's from a city like myself. You know I'm from
Big ten Country's confidence is better where I'm from. That's okay,
Live to fight another day. We got Brett always bringing the.
Speaker 5: Hammer by my side. Be hammer time. How we doing?
Speaker 4: Brother?
Speaker 9: First and foremost, shout out to my barber. Her name
is Emily Blade Barbershop. Go look it up if you
need the best fade, best haircut I've ever had in
my entire life. Shout out to Emily over a blade barbershop.
To the point about weddings and football men only. Men
don't ask.
Speaker 5: For a lot of things.
Speaker 9: We asked for Saturdays and occasionally Sundays. If you're into
the NFL as well, I will say that I have
a little bit of repenting to do because the I mean, look,
we can only we only had so many days that
we could get married because my brother came home from
a mission, and so I had to go home for Christmas,
and then UH came home and got married on New
Year's and then I had to go back to school,
and I was doing sideline at.
Speaker 5: BUYU at the same time. So we only had so
many days we could get married.
Speaker 4: Window for sure.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 9: The night of our rehearsal dinner was the college football playoffs.
Texas played Washington. You all remember that was a It
was a great night. It was a great day for playoffs.
And this is how I knew I married the one.
This is how I knew. It was a day before
the wedding.
Speaker 5: This high knew.
Speaker 9: She said, Hey, I know a lot of your grooms
are gonna be want to watch the game? Do you
want us to put up a TV in the chapel
so that everyone can watch the game with TV and chapel.
Speaker 5: Sorry, not the chapel in the gym.
Speaker 4: Sorry, this same same both. I'm a PREMI I'm not knocking.
Speaker 5: She goes, should we do that? And my aunt said
the same thing. I said. You know what I said,
I love you so much. And look, I love my wife.
My wife's the best. She teaches school's, she does everything.
Speaker 4: She's the bomb.
Speaker 5: We didn't end up putting a TV up in the
gym during the hustled day, ah, because I all my boys.
Speaker 9: Look, all my boys all sat at the same table,
and they all had their phones out and they all watched.
Speaker 5: The game and it was wonderful and it was glorious.
Speaker 9: But so look like there are ways to get married
or do wedding events around football, but you just have
to do it the right way and let people know, like, hey, look,
I understand, I'm I'm taking away.
Speaker 5: A special day for you because this is a special
day for me.
Speaker 9: But I also understand if you feel the need, if
you feel so obliged that you need to pull up
the game on your phone, there's no disrespect here.
Speaker 5: And when my wife said that to me, that was
when I knew I married the one.
Speaker 3: Ooh no, he married the one. Look see at this
point we all know we married the one. We got
it right, said Okay. During the bye week, put it
to television drives in Georgia so I can watch the
entire hour wastate game. Link it to the car, and
that's how you know she's bought in. So brother in,
brothers out there, all of you listening, makesure you find
the one that's bought in. Because if you're in this business,
it's not easy. It's long hours, a lot of stuff
you gotta do. And even not as a fan, I
see the funny things for contracts. All I have As
a man, I'm very simple. I like food and then
I like Saturdays and one other ass that I'm not
gonna say. So it's very simple in that regard. I
am a very simple man. So I'll keep it simple
with you guys. Let's get his the rest of our
ESPN starting lineup. In nitty gritty, the BYU basketball has
been ranked in the preseason poll. Are they being underrated?
I don't know if I like them here, I don't
know if I'm like them here. We'll discuss it momentarily
here in a few minutes, we're gonna get into some
aeronrodics sound finish up from yesterday at three oh five,
at three point thirty, gonna get into a little word
to be on you sports talk it does the Big
TOF have a branding problem?
Speaker 4: Doesn't have a branding problem?
Speaker 3: Andrew Peterson and Bread are gonna pontificate more than myself
on They're gonna really debate this, and I wish we
had more time to be able to do it because
we have so much in the show. Why are people
overlooking the wrong teams? Who are you over hyping? Who
are you undervaluing? That is an issue. I think that
is why College Game Day doesn't go to as many
Big twelve games. When you look at the SEC, when
you look at the Big Ten, even when you look
at the ACC, you're able to buckle down which teams
are at the top of the conference. Even our wonderful
producer behind the glass, barn Kelly, every day you said
Notre Dame is gonna be a top ten team, top fifteen,
there's no doubt you know that. You can't say the
same about any of these teams in the Big twelve.
They might have a branding issue.
Speaker 4: So We're gonna discuss that. Gonna get into a little
cougar inside of port of three forty five.
Speaker 3: At four or five, gonna have our sports Courts segment,
pressing and Geart. Handy will join us of Handylai Utah
dot Com. Gonna have an RG Sixciars call with Aaron
Kloff and four thirty breadon Day, the CEO of Odeon
Mensware gonna join us at four forty five for a
little college football talk and discussion.
Speaker 4: We got action.
Speaker 3: Jackson gonna be joining us of the deserh News. It's
funny guys, Jackson, Brett and myself and ap and come
April will all have graduated from the Daily Universe from BYU.
It was Brett's editor, Jackson paying there a little bit
ahead of me. So it's crazy. It's all come full circle.
Speaker 5: Bo.
Speaker 3: You just pumping out people like Jerem Jordan, Gregor Bell
and the rest of them all in the media department
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Let's welcome in the man behind the glass? Are blind
side blocker? The guy that who if we had a
media basketball team of ESPN, the fan, who would be
our starting center?
Speaker 4: No doubt, double double king?
Speaker 3: We got dj MK is Sean Walker, lection Callum, Martin
Kelly behind the glass.
Speaker 4: How are we doing today?
Speaker 5: Martin?
Speaker 10: What are you talking about? It wouldn't be the starting center.
I'm the freaking point guard. None of you guys are
calling out to be the point guard. And I would
eat the point guard. Okay, I got the ball skills.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. Try to give the man a company.
He just rips on his teammates.
Speaker 10: Seriously, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 3: I don't think Martin would average more assist than me,
but I'm not going to get into it.
Speaker 9: Whatever everything you want to put me on the block
and you handled the ball because I don't think that's
what That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna work that way, Martin.
Speaker 10: Well, considering these day and ages that everybody is spread out,
what makes you guys think me sitting on the block
would actually help us.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, I just think if they're not
going to guard you the paint, we'll give you the
ball and you'll go, like you know, Nicola Yokich, you'll go.
Speaker 5: For four trips. Exactly. They're not they can't guard you.
They're too small. Mouse in the hell.
Speaker 10: Listen, it's all right, guys. I would be the point guard.
Everybody else spread out the floor and just let me
do my thing.
Speaker 3: Okay on Oh my goodness, Okay, maybe we need to
put in our trade request and get him out of
here and everything.
Speaker 4: Let's do that. I don't I was going to team weight.
Speaker 3: Did not work out, even gave more to Dame the compliment,
which I don't normally do, my goodness, and he's still
could he's still this way, love Martin. I appreciate being
with us, being behind the glass. Uh, maybe you'll see
Notre Dame maybeau playing the collegewall player.
Speaker 9: By the way, while we're out here giving Notre Dame record,
the heisman is Jeremiah. Okay, you heard it on the
record today.
Speaker 3: Well let's get it on the record, because this is
on the record that you got that on the record
on the record is the b YU basketball media post.
The Big twelve basketball media post excuse me specifically, has
come out. These are the following teams I'm gonna listen
to you in order number one Houston number two, Texas
Tech number three, b y You three YU new t
shirt just came out with roller on Me Brown Rolling
Me brand dot Com number four, Arizona number five, Aurle
State number six, Kansas number seven, Baylor number eight, Kansas
State number nine, Cincinnati number ten, TCU eleven, West Virginia
number twelve, Oklahoma State coming in the Brother's up North,
the school up North at thirteen, e Utah number fourteenth,
U c F number fifteenth, Colorado number SI sixteenth, Arizona State.
Now it's surprising because it seems like those who are
the basketball beat riders are no basketball, no ball, and
those that no football don't. Because basketball was allowed to
have a poll, football is not. Now we know, Brett
McMurphy ofv ON three went a round and polled all
of the coaches on his own about what it would
be and put out his own Big twelve football preseason poll.
But basketball having their own right now, they took it
away from us. Guys, early thoughts. B Hammer, I'll start
with you then, AP.
Speaker 5: I hadn't really thought about that until you just s
brought up.
Speaker 4: Just bring it up. That's the facts.
Speaker 9: Look, I don't believe in everything, but if you're gonna
do something, at least do it based on principle. And
the principal that you told us was we don't think
it makes any sense for you to vote on a
big twelve preseason poll for football because you just don't
know who's gonna be good.
Speaker 5: So we're not gonna do it anymore. Okay, cool, I'm
good with that, But.
Speaker 9: We're still gonna do a poll for our other biggest sport,
which is Basketugh, that's what you're telling me. And look,
I understood them getting rid of the football one because
clearly it didn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: I do think it's a little bit of a knee
jerk reaction.
Speaker 9: It feels like you got a lot of people in
their fields because they picked Utah one in Arizona State
last and it ended up being it could not have
been more different from reality. So I don't really think
they needed to get rid of it, but I get
why they did. Basketball. Now we're still gonna have it,
which again I think it makes sense. I think BOU
should be at the top. I think BOU is in
a good spot. But I do find it just the
slightest bit interesting that you're gonna knee jerk reaction right
that get rid of football and keep the basketball poll,
even though the principle was we didn't think this made
a whole lot of sense BYU being at the three spot,
because that's what we're here to talk about.
Speaker 5: I'm good with it because I.
Speaker 9: Think the only two teams that are definitively better because
there's a lot of haggling.
Speaker 5: Again, we don't know everything.
Speaker 9: Part of the reason that we put this out, really, Ron,
let's be honest with the people.
Speaker 5: Part of the reason we do this is for consent,
because we need something to talk about. And so I'm
good with this.
Speaker 9: I do think the only two teams that you can
argue with me are definitively better than BYU or Texas
Tech and Houston, even though I think BYU is on
par with Texas Tech and I think this year will
beat Texas Tech Houston. I've said it all year. I've
coined the phrase, if anyone tries to steal it. I
brought it up first. Houston is the final boss at
the Big Twelve, and frankly is Kevin Young's final boss.
It's the one thing in his tool belt in one
year of being in the Big Twelve and being at
BOU that he hasn't done is beat Houston. And Frankly,
if you beat Houston, then you know how good you
are and how much you can beat with the rest
of the teams in the country, because Houston is probably
going to be in your final four, if not your
national championship. So BYU being at the three spot, I
think makes a lot of sense. That being said, though,
I think we would agree from watching these two exhibition games,
we don't know absolutely everything about this Bou basketball team.
There's a lot of things that we do know. There's
still a lot of lineups and there's a lot of
pairings that still.
Speaker 5: Need to be figured out.
Speaker 9: But I do think BYU being at a three spot
is really good. I mean, aj Bots it seems like
every day is on a new Player of the Year
watch list, So BYU being at the three spot makes
a lot of sense because they still have two mountains
left to climb. The observation though, that I think we
should take away from this is you've been in the
Big twelve how many years and you're already being picked
in the third best spot to win the whole thing.
Speaker 5: How impressive? Is that?
Speaker 4: Very impressive?
Speaker 3: I can deny that you went from okay, you know, thirteenth,
and then you jump up well, excuse me. You finish
top six in the Big twelve, top eight Undermark Pulp.
Then you jump with Kevin Young to tie for fourth
or third last year I think it was fourth, and
then you go to the tournament, you go to sweet sixteen,
and now you're top three in just a matter of
two pre seasons.
Speaker 4: That's pretty impressive, ap what you got for me.
Speaker 7: My immediate reaction is that Utah is too high.
Speaker 5: Wow, just kidding, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, I'm just looking at who by
you plays twice? We got Texas Tech twice, we got
Arizona twice, we got Utah twice, and I'm just I'm
trying to figure out.
Speaker 8: Who the other one is that we played twice.
Speaker 3: It's not it's Kansas, not Kansas or March second have
agent debas a spak Bill Seth and put him out
of retirement.
Speaker 4: And Darren Peterson.
Speaker 5: I think that was the thought process convinced.
Speaker 9: Even though I don't think BAU is beating Kansas twice, I.
Speaker 4: Don't I agree. I think they're splitting. If you ask
me my honest take, they split one in one, so.
Speaker 9: Like I think they are more disrespectful to Kansas than
we are.
Speaker 5: As by and b AU beats Kansas, that just doesn't
help the odds.
Speaker 7: Anyways, back to the subject. I I don't disagree with
Brett here. I don't hate b Why you at three?
I honestly have no qualms with it, because because Houston
is the team to beat in the Big Twelve. I
think they've lost what three Big Twelve games since they
joined the conference, which is an insane stat.
Speaker 5: It's a problem they have.
Speaker 8: I'll say they have the best coach in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 5: I love Kevin Yon, one of the best coaches in
the country, but.
Speaker 8: Kelvin Sampson is absolutely insane.
Speaker 7: They've always gotten insane defense, They've got They've got a
good enough offense. They were in the National Championship for
heaven's sakes last year. Uh So, I have no problem
being lower than Houston Texas Tech. I have no problem
being lower than the thing I need to see by
you do this year is guard the three because they
have not been good at guarding three point shots, even
in the exhibition games.
Speaker 5: They weren't good last year. They weren't good in the
Alabama game.
Speaker 8: That was a master class.
Speaker 3: Hey, I was there at that game. I saw that
master class. I was sitting right there.
Speaker 7: That was masterclass without the M Anyways.
Speaker 4: I like that. I like that. I just got that.
Speaker 3: But I like, hey, I like that, I just got
that master class without the M.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, But I mean I don't. I don't hate it.
Speaker 7: I think we've got a better handle on who's good
in basketball than in football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Look I'll say this, I'll give some pushback and give
my take. By you could be two on this list.
Speaker 4: They could be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they played it safe and made them three.
Speaker 3: To not give too much credit, because I think you
respect Kelvin, Kelvin.
Speaker 4: Samson and grab Mac Mcastle way more than you.
Speaker 5: Do Kevin Young.
Speaker 3: Well, Kevin Samson, I get Kelvin Sampson. I get and
here's the thing, grand as well. I get what Kevin
Young has done. But if you give too much hype
to little brother, who's coming that makes people.
Speaker 8: I think they like text Portal Class, and I.
Speaker 3: Think I do think they like Textportal Class. I agree
with you. I don't think there's nothing wrong with that
at all. I just think you have as much as
an argument you have for Texas Tech you have for AU,
they could be tied for second. If I'm gonna be honest,
I hate this tie stuff. But if you're gonna be honest,
they could be. They really could based on what they have.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you rather be an underdog than be overvalued.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent?
Speaker 3: You would, absolutely, you will want to be an underdog
over undervalued than overvalued. Absolutely, But I'm making the case
of I think BYU could be too. I know why
they picked it this three, and again, there's no disrespect.
Texport Class is nice. They got a good basketball team.
I'm not saying that they don't. I think just the
continuity and who you've had play with, and what Kevin
Young is built and his experience gives him a competitive
more gives him a competitive advantage over the likes of
Grant and Texas Tech. I mean, if, for crying out loud,
is between Houston and BYU, who's gonna get this G
league kid tex Tech out in the mix, right and
AP he's not in his head. So I'm like, to me,
that's what it comes down to. People want to say
all wrong with you have to Well, he's proven it.
The Axes and O's Kevin Young was the best college
coach coming out of timeouts last year. There was no
other college coach better at coming guy out of timeouts
than Kevin Young. I want the guy that does be
in social media to book that Kevin was the best
college coach at drawing up place. There was nobody else
to compare to him coming out of timeouts. The way
by you executed, I mean, may I remind you to
drop the play for Richie to get to the free
throw line. The places that he drew up what I
saw him do was phenomenal. It was on a different planet.
You had never seen coaching or experience like that at
BYU or the Big Twelve. And really unless you look
at Houston at its finest, right, we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Who can knock off Houston?
Speaker 3: Who can We're not talking about Texas Tech, talking about
BYU because of the recruiting, because of the experience, because
of the staff, because of the personnel. We're not discussing
that in the likes of Texas Tech. You're discussing Houston
and Byu. They've been to talk of the off season,
it's been Kelvin Sampson and Kevin Young. So that's my
argument of why they could be two them at three.
Speaker 4: I have no argument. I'm totally okay with it.
Speaker 3: But I think that's why you don't want to overvalue
that because Grant's a good coach.
Speaker 4: He's got a great program. I mean for crying to allow.
Speaker 3: Look what they did coming into the mayor Darren Williams
was spanking Beouoty, putting it in to making sure. I
mean they beat b Yu the year previously in the tournament,
beat him twice, beat him down to Lubbyck. I think
that changes this year. I think Houston's gonna get that
lost to by you at the marriage. I believe Kevin
Young has the answers when you look at a Rubik's cube,
when you look at the combinations or how you can
solve it, Kelvin Kelvin Sampson has those pieces, but also
Kevin Young. Kevin Young has every piece to the puzzle
that you're looking for. He knows how, and he can
do a five hundred word, he can do a two fifty,
he can do a thousand word, he can do five.
I don't even know what the puzzle pieces are, and
I'm trying to make an analogy out of it. But
Kevin Young has proven that to me in a short
amount of time, So think he can be too. Not
gonna disrespect him, but and do that. But highest is two.
I have no problem at three.
Speaker 9: Though, if I be the only one who thinks it's
a little weird that Kansas is all the way down
at six, Like.
Speaker 4: Do we really think that is a little weird?
Speaker 3: I think because look, here's the but I always stays nasty,
though I would say it is nasty.
Speaker 5: But here's the argument, bill self.
Speaker 9: I don't need to say anything else other than that,
but I will true you also in depending on who
you asked, the number one or number two player in
the country, and Darren Peterson. Obviously we know they didn't
have a great year last year, but this is still
Kansas and they still were good enough to get a
guy like Darren Peterson. I think it's a little odd
that six is where Kansas sits.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just looking at the teams ahead of them,
and I can't say that Kansas is better than Iowa
State or Arizona.
Speaker 5: I think they might be better than Arizona. I don't know.
I really like I like Arizona.
Speaker 7: The thing that I want to bring up here though
about this is that so there are three teams Bay
he plays twice, and two of them are in the
top four. It's Texas Tech in Arizona that you get twice.
They might have the hardest Big twelve schedule.
Speaker 5: I feel fine with playing in Arizona, honestly.
Speaker 9: Because Caleb Love was your biggest problem with for BYU
defending Arizona last year. And I don't no one on
Arizona scares me like Caleb Love scared me. I think
Bryce James is there right now, but I don't know
that he scares you like Caleb Love does. So I
mean again, look, we'll see it's very tightly knit. Also,
we're talking about the four, five, and six spot, like
any of those guys.
Speaker 5: Could be interchangeable. It's very tight race.
Speaker 9: But I do think that's a really interesting point that
you bring up, that the two of the teams that
b YU plays.
Speaker 5: Twice both in the top four outside of Houston. I'm
low key glad, you know, play Houston twice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's very interesting that that I'm getting
tweeted at that, you know, Texas Tech beat Houston last year.
Speaker 4: They did beat them last year. I can't deny that.
Speaker 3: But are you gonna are you saying if that's the case,
why is in Texas Tech you know above Houston?
Speaker 7: Then oh Houston, because Houston almost one.
Speaker 3: That's my thing, right And they're saying that, you know,
in regards to Okay, and that's my thing.
Speaker 4: I hear that.
Speaker 3: I hear what the fans are saying that, you know,
Texas Tech did beat Houston last year. So I mean, like,
if you're gonna tell me that Houston is not a
top dog.
Speaker 4: Then you're crazy. You're crazy.
Speaker 3: If you want to say by I hear that one
hundred percent, you can tweet at me with that. I'll
give you that argument, but I'm not gonna give you Houston.
There's no way. Okay, the one loss comes to Texas Tech. Okay,
so you're gonna take Texas Tech over Houston.
Speaker 4: That's what you're telling me. You would rank them like that.
Speaker 3: I guarantee if you ranked the Big Twelve, then you
would not allow Texas Tech to be above Houston.
Speaker 4: You're gonna play Houston if you want.
Speaker 3: To put Texas Tech tecond I hear that, But to me,
Houston's proven what they've done. You can't go off of
one Measley data point of just last year and do that.
You have to look at it as a whole. Houston's
defense is suffocating. Yes, they did win that game. You
have to give him credit for that. But you're telling
me that you trust Texas Tech right now more than Houston.
Speaker 9: And I think the difference is, like Boa hasn't beat Houston,
and I think Garrett just tweeted shout out to Garrett
to three against Texas Tech since you win in the
Big Twelve. But I think the difference is you've had
games where you could have beat Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: I don't know the boy has had a game where
they could have beat here. They had one. It was
the first year.
Speaker 7: It was tied with under a minute, and yes, who
started fouling, But I.
Speaker 9: Think that was the only one you could say overall,
when you look at the series, like you feel much
better about you.
Speaker 5: I'll bo you played Texas Tech than how they played.
Speaker 7: Houston like, let's talk, let's Houston has had sustained success.
Even before the Big Twelve, they were dominant in the AAC.
They absolutely dominated that conference. The last time boa you
beat Houston was I think twenty nineteen TJ. Hollis had
to hit a fadeaway jumper at the buzzer and.
Speaker 8: It barely crawled up. Yeah, and that was an all
time BAU team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. So it's it's very interesting. You know
what's gonna happen in this So I guess we're gonna
find out, you know. And again to those that are
tweeting and saying those things at me, it's not about
if you beat a person last year. I think that's
what people also missing the point. I think they're talking
about that the argument I was bringing in totality, it's
based off of what you've done last season. Sure, and
that's why I was bringing that up in that regard
of what could that And Texas Tech is a very
good team. But I think losing Darren Darren Williams, I
think losing him is a bigger piece. Honestly, I mean,
look at the pieces the pieces BYU lost last year.
How big of a loss. Are those compared to what
Texas Tech lost? Like, can JT top and take on
that entire role in the transos. Maybe they can, But
I'm talking about last year and that. If you want
to go to one games, sure, but I think it's
more than that. I think it's your offseason recruiting class.
I think it's a bunch of stuff that you did
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Speaker 7: Hey, my fiance gets to make decisions concerning the reception, because,
to be quite honest, she's been dreaming about her dream
reception for the longest time, and the most important thing
to me is that we get married, and I'm just
happy to be there at everybody to.
Speaker 3: The interesting she had any requirements for your wedding, because yes,
I was in charge of the food and getting the
dan that your wedding was like five percent mind.
Speaker 5: But there were two things that I wanted the wood
and music. No, the first thing was.
Speaker 9: The first thing was music, and okay, so anyone who
went to my wedding reception, including my grandmother who was
in the middle of a moshpit, it was a good time.
The second thing was everybody sneakers, So my wife had
sneakers on, my grandma had sneakers on. Everybody was wearing
Jordan's or Nikes at my reception. Those were the two
things I wanted, and I got both of them.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you got that second one because my family,
I know exactly what they have said, You're crazy, you're
not getting that. I just know they would have getting
me pushed back, what is the thing?
Speaker 4: I just look?
Speaker 3: Look, I know you gotta know your strengths and your
weaknesses of your family. I know that that's not gonna
happen now. Nothing against my sisters, as much as I
love them, I wouldn't have been allowed to have the
request that of mine, but they'd have been allowed to
request it at theirs. That's the type of family dynamic
I am. But I grew in the major article system.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 3: It don't really make sense to me to argue about
the shoot thing, even though I would have loved to
have that.
Speaker 4: I will say this to food and music though.
Speaker 3: If I if I could pick those two things, I'm
fine with everything else, cause as long as I can
eat and I can dance, y'all.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you.
Speaker 3: Saw it, but you saw an Instagram story getting down
on my sister's wedding bruh, Like it went crazy.
Speaker 4: It got to a point where I was going crazy.
Speaker 3: I ripped my entire shirt off almost so I'm like, oh,
how do I cover up the covenants?
Speaker 4: Ah, can't let people see.
Speaker 3: Luckily it had three buttons left, the first two and
the middle one, so I worked it out. But my goodness, uh,
I like to get down. I like to dance. I
like to go clubbing, and those things are some people
are gonna be like, Ron, you're a merriment.
Speaker 4: Oh is that a picture?
Speaker 5: There's my grandma in the grandma getting down.
Speaker 9: Okay, Grandma hammer. It was a good time, wedding bro, Bro.
I wish we'd all known each other so we could
turn up. It's gonna be a great time.
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party hard for your friends or for the person you're
going to Oh yeah, I.
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that's nice for the esthetic that you're able to put
off because the pictures look fire. Could you imagine if
you had, like, you know, only half and half didn't so.
Speaker 5: That could be crazy. Can't I can't dance?
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the day. Very simple. What are you excited most about
this upcoming season for BYU basketball? Super simple? The Poe
just drop BYU's number three. We can debate if they
should be number two. Houston's the top dog. I don't
care what anybody says listening to the show or not.
You're not going to pick anybody else over Houston. You're
gonna take Calvin Sampson. And just a reminder, you said
this during the break. Sweet sixteen has been the minimum, right,
So the worst, the worst, the worst, the worst.
Speaker 8: That does Houston has done since covid.
Speaker 3: Is, So please don't talk to me about a Texas
Tech or a BYU. Both of the school are great.
Gonna give them that Houston is the top dog their
daddy until somebody else says says otherwise.
Speaker 4: Just gonna keep it simple, and that keep it simple stupid.
So what are you excited at?
Speaker 3: Most were about this twenty twenty five to twenty six
BYU men's basketball season.
Speaker 9: Obviously, I'm excited to see how they defend the three
ball because I think we talked about earlier, like if
they figure that out this I think just from a
defensive perspective and how many points they have to put
up on the offensive end if they are Because we
were talking to an analytics guy a couple months ago
and the BOU was like, I think one hundred something
in terms of.
Speaker 3: How Isaac Trotter Yeah a CBS Sports, Yes, he was
saying that BOU was one hundred and something in terms
of how they defended the three ball, like they were
not good at it, especially when it was going over
under screens.
Speaker 9: So I think from that perspective, I'm excited to see
how that pans out. And following on that same line
is Canard Davis going to be what Kevin Young said
he could be, which is a defensive big twelve, first
team All Big twelve. I think it's possible, and I
think if at a combination of those things, we'll see
what Kadeen turns into. But I just think if this
BYU basketball team improves defensively marginally moderately, I mean, look,
they were horrible defending the three ball last year, and
look how far they went, Look what they were able
to do. If they get better and just that and alone,
because I think we agree like they've gotten bigger inside,
They've gotten bigger in terms of their wings. This is
I think from a defensive perspective. They have a lot
more tools than they did last year, and last year
was great. I'm excited to see where they improve defensively
this year. And then obviously the exciting stuff like Aja
Bonce is gonna have Dunk of the Year.
Speaker 5: I'm not even shocked. It's just it's not a question
of if, it's just a matter of when.
Speaker 9: I think the AJ highlights is everything that everyone is
excited to see, But what I want to see most
is how they improve defensively.
Speaker 7: So good take for me, the thing that I'm excited
about this year is the schedule that BYU's playing.
Speaker 8: We've talked about this a lot.
Speaker 7: Last year by You essentially played high school teams in
their non conference, no disrespect, but they were bad teams,
really bad teams, and that's all we got last year
in the non conference and conference is always exciting. But
this year BYU plays some legit teams, and I'm excited
to see how the team gels because of that and
how good they could be at the end of the year, because,
to be quite honest, last year, they did not gel
till February. That's when they started playing well together. And
that's because they didn't play anybody till January, like mid January.
That's when they started playing teams. That's when the season started, essentially,
it was mid January. But this year, the season starts Monday.
They played Villanova off the bat. A couple weeks later,
we're playing Yukon and then Wisconsin and Miami and Clemson.
And we talked about it in the last segment. B
Ways arguably got the hardest conference schedule, playing both Arizona
and Texas Tech twice, and so I'm really excited just
to always. It feels like every week, b why you's
going to have a good matchup, And we couldn't say that.
Speaker 5: In the last few.
Speaker 9: Years, and to that point, I can't believe I forgot
to mention this. We've talked about it before. I'm gonna
say it every single time until the day that happens.
We get AJ de Bonci versus Darren Peterson, which is
going to be one of the most anticipated games. I'm
trying to remember. I think that game is a Saturday,
and if that's.
Speaker 7: The case, I get to be casually watching other basketball
games and the commercial will be Aj Debonsa Darren Peterson
BYU Kansas.
Speaker 9: So that game is two o'clock on a Saturday on
ESPN on January thirty, first Saturday, means the potential for
game day. Now, that game day would be in Kansas,
not in Provo. But I think that game, as long
as it's on the schedule, as long as both Darren
Peterson and aj de Bonsa are healthy, that to me
is going to be my most anticipated game of the year,
just from a sure entertainment value perspective.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that game is definitely the biggest game I think
of the year for the big twelve and I mean,
look by Houston coming to the mirror. Idea is BOE
playing Texas check twice will be But in regards of
storylines and guys, look, I'm telling you this not because
I've I got my degree in journalism. I'm just telling
you in everything, we look at the whole picture, the
storylines around aj Debonnce and Darren Peterson. That game, it
was big storylines when they played each other. You know,
in the summer leagues, that game is going to be
the most anticipated one, especially for the fact that Kansas
is not being BYU. So I mean, heck, I mean,
I hate to bring it up. I mean, would you argue,
you know that Kansas is a better basketball perkum than BYU.
I mean, I mean, I mean I know, I mean,
I know they are ranked number six, But I mean,
so bo A bet in Kansas. That's a conversation for
a different day. That's just me poking at stuff in
the last segment anyway, But they did get it wrong.
Only having the game once. I will say that I
would tell them the committee that to their faces. I
would tell Brett you were marked that to his face.
Speaker 4: Don't care. They did.
Speaker 3: They can't afford to let Kansas, who's run this conference
in basketball and been the face of the Big twelve
outside of Houston to a degree in Bill self, they
can't let them to go zero and two and by
UNI here. They can't let it be possible. Oh one
is possible. But could you imagine Bill Self, who's on
his way out. Probably you would have to say he's
close to retirement and he is coaching, and that's will
disreprect Bill self will go down as one of the
greatest college coaches with the other ones in the history.
But if you beat if you lose the beauty two
more times, that might call for the donors and people
at Kansas to call for his job. And I think
that's a very valid take in the sense of basketball.
Look what Penn State did the Vans Franklin. Look what
happened to Brian Kelly at LSU. It's either champion, It's
either national championship or bus. For Kansas, I feel like
I don't think they're liking it what we got to
the elite A. It's like, no, you won at the
highest level. So if BYU were to beat you twice,
the coach that just got there, the program that no
one thought would be there doing that. The new kid
on the block, the new money on the market, the
number one recruit probably going to be the number one
draft pick in the twenty twenty six NBA draft.
Speaker 4: They beat you two.
Speaker 3: Times in a row, it's gonna have his job. He'll
be out of a job. I'm serious and I'm not
and I don't think that's hype. Probably to say, with
what's going on in college football, I would have to
think the same could happen in college basketball because the donors,
the ads don't run nahah they don't want buck squat
most schools do.
Speaker 4: The donors run it. And when you lose, if they
say I want you gone.
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna be honest with school up North, Craig Smith,
I thought didn't do too bad of a job, and
they wanted him gone, and he was gone, and then
they said we want Alex Jensen.
Speaker 4: That's what That's what happens. The money talks.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's
in charge, who says what the dollar dollar bills talk.
I've said this more importantly, a business, an entity will
not lose money. They will make a decision, they will
keep their money because at the end of the day,
everything is driven. Get into none of the politics with everything.
But I'm just gonna say, look at everything from a
national standpoint. More often than not, the money, the dollar
dollar bills talk so Kansas, I don't think could afford
to have that. Nor the Big Twelve said it said
one time. But I'm with you guys that game. I'm
looking forward to number one and number two going at
it this basketball season. Do they live up to the
high That's the biggest thing I'm looking for. And when
I mean up tonight, I'm talking about in Big Twelve,
down the stretch, most important moments, tight game.
Speaker 4: Does aj show you he's that dude? Does Richie?
Speaker 3: At three's just Rob Wright? You brought in all of
this talent, You've allocated all of this time to it.
Does it show up when it matters most? And does
it show up in the tournament? Are you in the
elite A competing for a final four bourth If you're
doing that, then I think you can say, Okay, this
season is a success. Granted long season. Now one fans
does understand this. If they lose to Villanovo money, which
I think is very possible. I don't want fans saying, oh, well,
it's like, okay, you said that last year and what
if they end up? So please, fans don't tweet at me.
Don't have a knee jerk reaction by one lost because
you did that last year in this team was what
two and four something to start the season, and look
where they ended up. You weren't saying nothing to me
by the end of the season. You weren't in my
dms and in my messages and tweeting at me. But
you're tweeted at me at the beginning. So just hold
your horses. It's a long season, it's a long way
to go, and it's all about to start up come Monday,
November third. Shout out the Brad Hammer birthday weekend, Andrew
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Speaker 4: All right, got a little.
Speaker 3: Stat Bear Bachmeyer, guys, as we know, has been phenomenal
this year as a freshman. He has led b YU
to an eight and o start, two thousand, one hundred
one yards of total offense, twenty touchdowns, just three interceptions.
Speaker 4: And an eight and o record. The last time BOU
was a no besides last year, do you remember the
quarterback that led BYU to that?
Speaker 5: Say that one more time?
Speaker 3: So the last time BOU outside of last year because
first time back to back seasons eight No, who was
the last quarterback to lead BYU to an eight to
o season.
Speaker 8: I believe that would be the dominator, Brandon Doman.
Speaker 5: You sure did they go eight and o in twenty twenty?
Speaker 4: They did?
Speaker 3: Okay, it is I was thinking, you're not wrong two
thousand one. Absolutely, so I say you're not wrong. Not
the last one though.
Speaker 9: Twenty is hard for me because we play like Lebron
won a fake championship.
Speaker 4: Oh man, they put out the fake championships. Guys.
Speaker 7: If we're being on it was a great team, but
we were playing like essentially we were playing tenth F
high school every week.
Speaker 9: I will that Navy game will go down in history
for me as one of the worst tackling performances I've
ever seen in the history of football. Granted they couldn't
tackle because it was COVID, but yeah, I'm with Ap
a little bit on that one.
Speaker 4: But I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't really remember that, so I appreciate you bringing
that up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, And here's the I need to get
the stants for the Iowa State game. But check this out,
bear bach Mine. This is against Colorado is going like
a month back when they fell down fourteen to oh,
do you know what bear was? Bear was nineteen to
twenty seven, one seventy nine two passing touchdowns, almost one
hundred rushing yards and you really should have had one
hundred because when you take knee it's a negative net
and then seventy point four completion percentage. What else do
you guys want? And a fan put this out and
I agree with them. Things are not luck. Thirty one
to three scoring run to finish the game, plus four
in a turn over margin, ninety two to two over
all the last twenty one games, twelve and two in
the Big twelve record, last two seasons, three consecutive wins
versus your rival spanning five years.
Speaker 4: Hashtach not luck.
Speaker 7: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not these numbers that you see BA you putting
up and how well they are not luck. This is
per Kugar Stats and Parker Fleming, who had on the
show yesterday. If you missed an interview, you can download
it on the podcast. By you scored on six of
nine non garbage possessions. They had a pass efficiency of
one to fifty five and serviceable four point four yards
run on non sacks plus four in turnover margin. That's
the success rate. So at some point you gotta get
Byu credit. We're gonna talk with John Kurtz in the
last hour of the show when he thinks that will
be I think, if you beat Texas Tech, you'll get
the You'll get the respect you deserve.
Speaker 4: Remember after Utah last year you dropped two.
Speaker 3: You go and beat Texas Tech, the Red Raiders, who
people slowly declaring is the best team in the conference
per Joe Kladd and some of the national guys. You
beat that team, you have nothing else but the swallow
your pride. Those that don't believe and say by is
the best boys.
Speaker 4: Gotta go do it. But if they go do it,
you have to give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 5: So people want to keep saying BOYU hasn't played anybody,
But then some of those same people have Utah. It
like josh Pai has Utah in his power rankings.
Speaker 9: The guy at CBS who has Utah I think in
the top twelve if b why, like, how can you
say Bou.
Speaker 5: Hasn't played anybody?
Speaker 9: But then on the same flip side say, oh yeah,
Utah is one of the best teams in the country.
Still look if you don't believe that anyone bo you
played was that was that good, and you don't believe
any of them are still that good, then if you
want to make the argument BA hasn't played anybody, I
can at least hear it. But how can Josh pay
say BYU is not that good? But then put Utah
in his.
Speaker 7: It's like, if you're gonna say b Yu hasn't played anybody,
then Utah is nobody.
Speaker 4: Right, I agree, because we according to what happened on paper.
Speaker 8: Every I want fans to remember this stat.
Speaker 7: Every time somebody tells you that BYU is lucky or
they're a result of a week's schedule, remember this stat.
Wins against teams with a winning record BYU four wins
the University of Utah one.
Speaker 4: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 3: So no more of this this shucking and driving bull drive,
as I like to say, that would be honest and.
Speaker 4: That bull jive.
Speaker 7: That was an Arizona State team without Sam Levitt. Not
saying that Sam Lovett would have won that game, but
sure would have been closer than forty two to ten
one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what Utah does, right, you know?
And then there they get a freshman of the week.
This off of is the offensive player of the week.
You're telling me that that win over Colorado was more
impressive than Bear beating Iowas down the road. There's no
not you two, not Martin behind the glass, not nobody
at the station who I were. There's nobody that can
convince me otherwise. You beat a bad Colorado team, you
ran up the score. Sure you wan Rgobo, you only
beat him twenty four to twenty one. Okay, well, let's
how about you going on the road with that game
and then tell me how that is. Like, I don't know,
I'm just I'm over the whole. The national media and
people are trying so hard to discredit BYU.
Speaker 4: And that's why you have to win.
Speaker 3: You have to go undefeated almost you really have to
because any lost him, like yep, they're gonna drop you,
like you know the girlfriend that's you know, just looking
for something better. You know, you ever gone on the
data You're like, yeah, I know it's not gonna work out.
This person is completely superficial. They completely just want to
look at, you know, all the other things. Who's got
more Money's he tall? All the like stuff that doesn't matter.
Not building an actual relationship and being transactional and not transformational.
That's literally sometimes the national media and not giving boy
you credit.
Speaker 9: The irony when you say that bou basically has to
go undefeated. I thought that we were done with that
when we stopped being independent, because in independence, if you
wanted to be respected for a four team playoff or
for a big time bowl game, you had to go undefeated.
I thought when we went into a conference, that meant
that you could at least lose one to two games
and still get respect from the national media, from the
eight people from the College Foble Playoff committee, even though
you're now at a conference.
Speaker 5: Hey, look the more things change, the more they stay
the same.
Speaker 4: So I received this tex comsion. I want to say this.
Speaker 3: I know Martin says we got to get the break,
but I'm reading this because I just got this text.
It says JP pole is based off of who Vegas
would favor on a neutral field.
Speaker 4: It's not personal opinion. Whether it's still wrong.
Speaker 9: No, that is still wrong, and I appreciate the context,
but that means somebody is still wrong.
Speaker 3: Somebody is still wrong, even if it's not J PK
so we'll apologize to Josh Pits and will blame Vegas.
Speaker 4: Vegas is still wrong.
Speaker 3: B why you beat that team who is on your
list one hundred percent? That like, so that's what Vegas
is saying. Vegas is saying, oh, we'll take Utah on
a neutral site.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 9: No, And by the way, Josh pat is not the
only person who knows high on Utah. There's other polls
out there who are high on you.
Speaker 3: Joe Klatt said, sal By, you're earlier in the season,
and he said, I'm picking Utah.
Speaker 4: It's easy.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like Vegas in the national media, this
is my point to solidify this. Vegas and the national
media have been wrong about Utah through eight weeks. Again,
there are still four games, Alie Crow, if everybody end
of season, if it is, but the way it's looking
right now, don't talk to me about no injuries, don't
talk to me about none of that. Utah has not
been what it has been, and everybody wants to act
like it is BYU has a right to a degree.
Give them their credit. Let's keep it pushing Vegas, You're wrong,
Just go leave it at that. That was your Let's
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