WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.050 --> 00:00:00.930 They've had an awakening. 2 00:00:01.209 --> 00:00:03.290 And I don't care the sincerity of it. I don't 3 00:00:03.330 --> 00:00:04.129 care whether or not. 4 00:00:04.469 --> 00:00:06.940 But they've had a public awakening to the idea that 5 00:00:06.980 --> 00:00:10.199 Donald Trump is a singular threat to this country. And 6 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:12.619 so I'll sit down and talk to anybody who's come 7 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:16.059 to that conclusion. If you've had the courage to come 8 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:18.480 out of the cult that you helped create, and I 9 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:19.559 can sit down and talk to. 10 00:00:19.579 --> 00:00:20.339 You about. 11 00:00:21.609 --> 00:00:24.050 What we have that more that connects us and divides 12 00:00:24.070 --> 00:00:25.589 us and finds some common ground. 13 00:00:25.629 --> 00:00:28.690 God bless. So be it, man. Your task will not 14 00:00:28.809 --> 00:00:32.969 be an easy one. Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped, and battle-hardened. 15 00:00:33.950 --> 00:00:37.329 There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. 16 00:00:37.570 --> 00:00:43.530 There is the United States of America. Good night, and 17 00:00:43.570 --> 00:00:46.109 good luck. Hey folks, it's Rick Wilson. Welcome back to 18 00:00:46.130 --> 00:00:48.170 the Lincoln Project Podcast. We're delighted to have you with 19 00:00:48.229 --> 00:00:49.990 us today, and even more delighted to bring you a 20 00:00:49.990 --> 00:00:52.859 very special guest. It's Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden has become 21 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:57.340 America's spirit animal. He has become a guy who is talking... 22 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.689 to folks across the political spectrum in a way that 23 00:01:00.729 --> 00:01:04.030 is blunt and crisp and not political. And people are 24 00:01:04.069 --> 00:01:08.349 really responding to it at a really fundamental level. So, Hunter, 25 00:01:08.590 --> 00:01:14.560 you have been out there talking to folks and going 26 00:01:14.579 --> 00:01:16.519 around the country, talking to people on the left and 27 00:01:16.540 --> 00:01:20.159 the right and the center, in the professional political world 28 00:01:20.180 --> 00:01:23.650 and outside of it. And what is it you think 29 00:01:23.810 --> 00:01:29.560 has been the reason why You've become such a voice 30 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:30.879 for so many people right now. 31 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:35.019 I'm honored that you would even think that, Rick. I 32 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.269 appreciate it very much, for real. Coming from you, that means. 33 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:39.329 A great deal. 34 00:01:39.340 --> 00:01:43.209 I think that more than anything is that I think 35 00:01:43.230 --> 00:01:47.629 people will fundamentally understand, but the talking heads on cable 36 00:01:47.670 --> 00:01:52.670 news don't understand is that I really truly believe that 37 00:01:52.709 --> 00:01:55.859 we're not nearly as divided as we are being told 38 00:01:55.890 --> 00:01:56.159 we are. 39 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:57.840 I think that. 40 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:03.959 My experience that played out on the cover of the 41 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.400 New York Post for a seven-year period of time and 42 00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:11.580 every tabloid and every mainstream media is something that once 43 00:02:11.699 --> 00:02:13.900 I decided that I was going to speak and speak 44 00:02:13.939 --> 00:02:18.210 frankly about it, speak frankly about my addictions, speak frankly 45 00:02:18.250 --> 00:02:23.210 about my recovery and my relationship with my family, who 46 00:02:23.270 --> 00:02:27.669 I adore and love, that they find much more connection 47 00:02:27.689 --> 00:02:30.409 in that than they, than any of the, um, uh, 48 00:02:30.490 --> 00:02:34.490 the things that they're told to believe, uh, uh, separates 49 00:02:34.530 --> 00:02:37.870 me from them. And, um, and so in that sense, 50 00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:42.150 I also think that, um, people are just sick of 51 00:02:42.169 --> 00:02:42.840 the bullshit. 52 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:44.919 They just are. 53 00:02:44.939 --> 00:02:45.659 Yes. 54 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:51.219 Yeah. You know, people cut, you know, whether it's politicians 55 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:56.780 or cable news talking heads or political analysts that come 56 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:00.069 out and tell everybody what they're supposed to believe about each. 57 00:03:00.030 --> 00:03:10.069 Other without any real evidence or any way of showing 58 00:03:10.129 --> 00:03:12.270 us how we are more alike than not. 59 00:03:12.530 --> 00:03:15.639 So I don't know if that answers it because I'm 60 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.439 not quite sure yet what it all means. All I 61 00:03:18.500 --> 00:03:22.780 know is that I get an opportunity to debate people 62 00:03:22.819 --> 00:03:25.460 with politics so that they can hear my message as 63 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.759 it relates to recovery, which 50 million Americans face every day. 64 00:03:29.780 --> 00:03:32.539 A friend of mine who's on her 23rd year of 65 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.060 recovery said to me one time, it's a process, not 66 00:03:35.099 --> 00:03:39.759 a thing. That's right. That's right. And so I love 67 00:03:39.780 --> 00:03:44.520 that you've made this. In some ways, they caricatured you 68 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.500 for years. They ignored the recovery part and the hard 69 00:03:47.539 --> 00:03:50.050 work of that. And it was, oh, here's these pictures 70 00:03:50.090 --> 00:03:52.889 from whatever, laptop and all that, all the garbage, right? 71 00:03:53.930 --> 00:03:56.310 In some ways, you being honest about it for people, 72 00:03:56.569 --> 00:03:59.050 I think for people who are working through recovery and 73 00:03:59.110 --> 00:04:03.400 working through challenges like that, you've owned it all. And 74 00:04:04.379 --> 00:04:07.580 you've said, yeah, that was the world I was in. 75 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:11.840 That was the world I've gotten through hard work out of. 76 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.960 And you owned it and it stopped having a lot 77 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.069 more power in the world than it would have if 78 00:04:19.089 --> 00:04:21.610 you'd been trying to deny it, trying to hide it. 79 00:04:21.870 --> 00:04:24.379 That seems like the reflex in American politics now is like, 80 00:04:24.660 --> 00:04:28.620 hide everything, cover everything up, don't talk about anything, be 81 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.939 dishonest at every level. And you've walked out there with 82 00:04:32.980 --> 00:04:36.579 it and said, here I am, and you've owned it. 83 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.860 I think it's a great story for people. 84 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:40.480 Yeah. 85 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:42.600 One of the things I've been saying, which I think 86 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.810 is absolutely true, I'd love to get your take on it, 87 00:04:45.430 --> 00:04:50.350 is that I think Donald Trump has done something that 88 00:04:50.670 --> 00:04:54.730 a lot more than something. He has infected politics in 89 00:04:54.769 --> 00:04:56.569 so many different ways. But one of the ways in 90 00:04:56.610 --> 00:05:00.040 which he did is we've all in some way confused 91 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:05.500 audacity with authenticity. We've confused the idea that someone can 92 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.819 come out and stand in front of you and say 93 00:05:07.860 --> 00:05:09.819 that they're six foot three and they weigh 225 pounds. 94 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.300 When we know that if he, if he's six feet. 95 00:05:14.220 --> 00:05:16.970 On a good day and he's much closer to 285, 96 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:20.910 I think that more than anything is that, um, uh, 97 00:05:21.589 --> 00:05:25.509 in this moment in time, particularly with people that are 98 00:05:25.649 --> 00:05:26.069 kind of in. 99 00:05:25.990 --> 00:05:28.519 The draft age, 18 to 35. 100 00:05:27.939 --> 00:05:31.939 Year olds is that they can, they can sniff, um, uh, 101 00:05:32.500 --> 00:05:36.899 BS from a mile away. And, um, and I, and I, 102 00:05:37.540 --> 00:05:41.089 and I think that that is not, um, uh, confined 103 00:05:41.170 --> 00:05:44.209 to any particular political belief. 104 00:05:45.009 --> 00:05:47.970 I think that it's across the board. 105 00:05:48.750 --> 00:05:54.670 And he is so kind of infected at that and 106 00:05:54.790 --> 00:05:58.899 everything else that I think when someone comes out and 107 00:05:59.259 --> 00:06:02.439 is upfront about all of the things that are true 108 00:06:02.500 --> 00:06:04.720 about them that they can't deny, it's not like I 109 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.500 came to this out of some courage on my part. 110 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.230 It was It was I said that everybody is that 111 00:06:12.269 --> 00:06:14.129 I'm in a better place than I've ever been because 112 00:06:14.170 --> 00:06:14.970 of what I went through. 113 00:06:15.029 --> 00:06:16.550 But I wouldn't recommend what I went. 114 00:06:16.410 --> 00:06:17.250 Through to anybody. 115 00:06:17.269 --> 00:06:23.540 Yeah. Yeah. And so anyway, I just think that that 116 00:06:24.100 --> 00:06:24.620 people are. 117 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:31.779 Willing to give you the space and and listen if 118 00:06:31.860 --> 00:06:37.699 you are sincere about your convictions. And just authentic about it. And, 119 00:06:37.860 --> 00:06:39.689 you know, and that's not something you can fake. 120 00:06:40.750 --> 00:06:43.389 No, I think that's exactly right. So, you know, I 121 00:06:43.410 --> 00:06:46.009 was thinking about this interview last night and I was 122 00:06:46.029 --> 00:06:50.170 thinking about your dad. And I realized in some fundamental 123 00:06:50.189 --> 00:06:53.560 way the difference between your dad and this administration now, 124 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:58.399 the choice that we unfortunately made as a country to 125 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.629 send Trump back to office, it's not just policy. It 126 00:07:03.709 --> 00:07:08.639 is about compassion and human connection. And your dad is famous, 127 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.620 and you seem to have that same gift, I think. 128 00:07:12.220 --> 00:07:16.379 They're not just like placeholders for you, and they certainly 129 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.120 weren't for your dad, who just loved people. When he 130 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:21.639 was in office and when he was a candidate, when 131 00:07:21.660 --> 00:07:23.889 he was in the Senate, I always noticed that about him, 132 00:07:23.939 --> 00:07:27.019 even when I was a Republican. And I had a 133 00:07:27.060 --> 00:07:31.250 lot of Republican clients and friends and senators, and they 134 00:07:31.290 --> 00:07:34.370 would always tell me like, I love that fucking guy. 135 00:07:34.389 --> 00:07:38.569 I fucking love Joe Biden because he's just like, he 136 00:07:38.670 --> 00:07:41.589 cares about you. He's like, he's a no shit person. 137 00:07:42.050 --> 00:07:43.649 Is that part of what you're doing here is trying 138 00:07:43.670 --> 00:07:45.449 to get that message. Like we've got to connect better. 139 00:07:45.529 --> 00:07:48.709 We've got to, we've got to reach to other people better. 140 00:07:49.189 --> 00:07:51.610 Cause you're, you're talking to everybody. You're talking to, you know, 141 00:07:51.750 --> 00:07:55.569 from Candace Owen and Tucker to, you know, me to 142 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.100 people on the left, right center, it's all over. Is 143 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.779 that part of this mission is to get that sense of, of, 144 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.819 of that, compassion and connection back? A hundred percent. 145 00:08:05.139 --> 00:08:09.850 We have been, uh, told that we are, uh, uh, 146 00:08:10.209 --> 00:08:13.129 not that, that, that we have this incredible divide in 147 00:08:13.170 --> 00:08:13.870 this country. 148 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:17.790 I'd love to get your take on this. Um, because from, uh, I, 149 00:08:17.970 --> 00:08:20.680 I think that the, that you guys over at. 150 00:08:20.649 --> 00:08:26.220 Lincoln project are spot on almost everything. 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I 212 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.820 know that people say that he's just a symptom of 213 00:11:31.860 --> 00:11:33.879 the disease, but I don't fully believe that. 214 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:36.720 I think that he is the catalyst for so much 215 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.179 of this. It is a pandemic. 216 00:11:39.379 --> 00:11:42.179 A hundred percent, Hunter. I mean, there is a lot 217 00:11:42.230 --> 00:11:45.769 about Trump that emerged from a, you know, a lot 218 00:11:45.809 --> 00:11:48.629 of shitty things that happened in our country from, from 219 00:11:48.669 --> 00:11:50.850 the addiction to Fox and Facebook and all that stuff 220 00:11:51.350 --> 00:11:55.669 to the Republican parties drift towards like authoritarianism and all that. 221 00:11:56.370 --> 00:11:59.009 But he has a unique set of, he is like 222 00:11:59.049 --> 00:12:03.269 a super villain in making people into their worst self where, 223 00:12:03.870 --> 00:12:06.750 and I, the first time I ever picked up on this, 224 00:12:06.789 --> 00:12:07.870 I was in a focus group in 2016 and I, 225 00:12:09.590 --> 00:12:11.870 Heard this guy who was pissed off about the world. 226 00:12:12.230 --> 00:12:15.529 He had been an Obama voter twice, and he was 227 00:12:15.570 --> 00:12:19.210 so pissed off about his auto plant closing. And he 228 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:21.889 was like, you know, fuck this and fuck that. He goes, 229 00:12:21.909 --> 00:12:23.929 you know what? If Trump says I can say the 230 00:12:24.029 --> 00:12:25.879 N-word now, and he did not say the N-word, he 231 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.940 used the full hard G word, then I'm going to 232 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:33.100 do it. And he felt like he was given some 233 00:12:33.139 --> 00:12:37.220 sort of superpower to be a dick. And Trump makes 234 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.879 people feel like they can steal. and abuse people and 235 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:45.419 mock people who are sick or poor or immigrants. And 236 00:12:46.980 --> 00:12:52.080 it is a pandemic. It is an evil that I 237 00:12:52.100 --> 00:12:54.779 don't think our country was really ready for because social 238 00:12:54.820 --> 00:12:57.960 media made it a billion times stronger than it would 239 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:00.360 have been. Because normally in life, if somebody said that, 240 00:13:00.539 --> 00:13:02.519 you know, they were your neighbor, you'd be like, shut 241 00:13:02.539 --> 00:13:03.259 the fuck up, Bob. 242 00:13:03.860 --> 00:13:03.980 No. 243 00:13:05.029 --> 00:13:08.149 But, but, but on social media, it's like, yeah, go ahead. 244 00:13:08.230 --> 00:13:10.840 Maga man, seven, two, four, nine, two. You tell them. 245 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.340 I just, I feel like he really unleashed some shittiness 246 00:13:14.379 --> 00:13:18.919 in our culture and our, and our national spirit that, that, 247 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.690 that I, I, I still even 10 years into this. 248 00:13:23.750 --> 00:13:25.649 Don't know how to fix it. Honest answer. 249 00:13:27.610 --> 00:13:27.850 Yeah. 250 00:13:27.870 --> 00:13:29.769 That's my honest answer too, is I don't know how 251 00:13:29.809 --> 00:13:30.240 to fix it. 252 00:13:30.330 --> 00:13:33.029 Other than by this is that if we don't look, 253 00:13:33.450 --> 00:13:36.909 How long did I hear the mainstream press and everybody 254 00:13:36.950 --> 00:13:39.490 at the New York Times editorial board and, you know, 255 00:13:40.129 --> 00:13:45.610 or in hindsight, 20, 20, 20 hindsight talk about how 256 00:13:45.690 --> 00:13:48.070 Kamala Harris screwed up because she didn't talk to Joe 257 00:13:48.129 --> 00:13:51.519 Rogan or any of the people in the in the sphere, 258 00:13:51.580 --> 00:13:53.269 the bro sphere, whatever they call it. 259 00:13:53.820 --> 00:13:56.080 And, you know, and OK, so now I go out 260 00:13:56.139 --> 00:13:57.220 and I talk to these people. 261 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:59.740 And the reason that I talk to them is the 262 00:13:59.899 --> 00:14:01.759 singular reason of the ones that I've talked to so 263 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:02.840 far is this. 264 00:14:03.539 --> 00:14:06.279 Is that they have come, they've had an awakening. 265 00:14:06.590 --> 00:14:08.649 And I don't care the sincerity of it. I don't 266 00:14:08.690 --> 00:14:11.350 care whether or not, but they've had a public awakening 267 00:14:11.389 --> 00:14:14.350 to the idea that Donald Trump is a singular threat 268 00:14:14.389 --> 00:14:16.929 to this country. And so I'll sit down and talk 269 00:14:16.950 --> 00:14:20.690 to anybody who's come to that conclusion. If you've had 270 00:14:20.710 --> 00:14:22.509 the courage to come out of the cult that you 271 00:14:22.549 --> 00:14:24.919 helped create, and I can sit down and talk to. 272 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:25.700 You about. 273 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.379 What we have that more that connects us than divides 274 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:30.700 us and find some common ground. 275 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:31.360 God bless. 276 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:32.700 So be it, man. 277 00:14:33.210 --> 00:14:36.389 And like everybody else out there that says, oh, you know, 278 00:14:36.809 --> 00:14:38.809 I mean, I was listening to the Pod Save America 279 00:14:38.830 --> 00:14:40.710 guys the other day and they were like, you know, oh, 280 00:14:40.750 --> 00:14:42.629 my God, I can't believe Hunter did this. 281 00:14:42.649 --> 00:14:46.610 Hunter Biden media tour on all of the various right 282 00:14:46.649 --> 00:14:48.529 wing hosts and all the different places he's going. 283 00:14:48.629 --> 00:14:50.570 What are you doing, man? And I'm like, what? You 284 00:14:50.649 --> 00:14:51.629 are so irrelevant. 285 00:14:51.970 --> 00:14:55.919 You're so incredibly relevant and out of touch with everyday 286 00:14:55.980 --> 00:14:58.860 Americans who do not give a shit about the things 287 00:14:58.899 --> 00:15:00.340 that you're telling us that we need to give a 288 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.350 shit about. You're sitting here talking about whether or not 289 00:15:03.409 --> 00:15:06.539 the chairman of the Democratic Party is worthy of the 290 00:15:06.580 --> 00:15:09.960 job and he needs to get fired and he didn't 291 00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:12.059 do an after-action report that was good. 292 00:15:12.419 --> 00:15:13.470 People don't give a shit, man. 293 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.639 Nobody cares. They don't care about party. 294 00:15:16.950 --> 00:15:20.490 Nobody sits around. I mean, I tell everybody, you want 295 00:15:20.509 --> 00:15:23.529 to talk about the Democratic Party? I believe what Will 296 00:15:23.570 --> 00:15:26.529 Rogers said. He's not a member of any organized party. 297 00:15:26.809 --> 00:15:29.330 He's a Democrat. And by the way, you know this 298 00:15:29.370 --> 00:15:32.769 better than anybody. That has never changed. And so we 299 00:15:32.909 --> 00:15:36.960 sit here and they pontificate and hand-ring over. For instance, 300 00:15:37.139 --> 00:15:39.000 let me give you one instance in which I think 301 00:15:39.139 --> 00:15:42.240 where we find that we just do ourselves. 302 00:15:43.019 --> 00:15:43.940 And who are ourselves? 303 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:44.500 I don't know. 304 00:15:44.539 --> 00:15:46.740 But we do ourselves such an incredible disservice. 305 00:15:47.419 --> 00:15:51.000 Dr. Abdul Al-Sayed is literally.. 306 00:15:51.470 --> 00:15:54.669 If you took out the racist. 307 00:15:54.350 --> 00:15:57.669 Component of his last name that people attached to it, okay? 308 00:15:58.149 --> 00:16:03.480 He is literally a model candidate. He is a Rhodes Scholar. 309 00:16:03.899 --> 00:16:09.240 He is an M.D. He is a epidemiologist. 310 00:16:09.299 --> 00:16:13.460 He is, by the way, he's like a bodybuilder and 311 00:16:13.500 --> 00:16:16.259 was captain of like every single sports team in Michigan. 312 00:16:16.570 --> 00:16:21.509 Born and bred Michigan. He rebuilt the health department after 313 00:16:21.529 --> 00:16:23.909 the politicians wore it down. Got rid of millions of 314 00:16:23.929 --> 00:16:25.029 dollars of medical debt. 315 00:16:25.070 --> 00:16:28.470 Got thousands of blessed kids, including me. Abdul has the 316 00:16:28.509 --> 00:16:31.190 guts to take all of them on and represent the 317 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:31.870 working class. 318 00:16:31.950 --> 00:16:32.720 He's a doctor. 319 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:34.000 He is exactly that. 320 00:16:34.580 --> 00:16:38.679 Meanwhile, these guys like go around now and they like, Fred, like, 321 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:39.480 oh my God. 322 00:16:39.940 --> 00:16:42.159 We, yeah, it's like, it's insane. 323 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.440 And we feed into this inside the party, which is 324 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:47.840 nothing new, but it's on steroids now. 325 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.519 I mean, I just get so sick of it. That's 326 00:16:49.539 --> 00:16:53.580 one of the Republican Party's superpowers is they don't fucking care. 327 00:16:54.250 --> 00:16:56.470 It could be Max Miller in Ohio who beats his 328 00:16:56.549 --> 00:16:58.710 wife and they're like, nope, he's our guy. We're sticking 329 00:16:58.730 --> 00:17:02.450 with him. He's a Republican. And the Democrats do a 330 00:17:02.509 --> 00:17:07.130 lot more purity checking. And they also do a lot more, 331 00:17:08.950 --> 00:17:11.279 they also do a lot more like they overthink everything. 332 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:13.859 It's like, what if this guy doesn't like this thing 333 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.819 that Abdul said about this issue? And then they always like, 334 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.640 they can look at one tiny sliver of data and go, 335 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.619 this is the absolute fact. And it's rarely the absolute fact. 336 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:27.920 He is, and look, I don't have to agree with 337 00:17:27.940 --> 00:17:30.490 the guy on everything he says. But you got to 338 00:17:30.529 --> 00:17:33.329 acknowledge he's got that gift in politics. You've seen this 339 00:17:33.430 --> 00:17:36.390 up close. Some people have the gift. Some people have 340 00:17:36.470 --> 00:17:39.769 a skill. It's like God love Hillary Clinton, but she 341 00:17:39.809 --> 00:17:43.099 never had that gift in 2016. She just didn't have it. 342 00:17:43.410 --> 00:17:45.950 That's exactly right. Barack Obama had it. Your dad had it. 343 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.700 George Bush, W. Bush had that skill connected. You sat 344 00:17:49.740 --> 00:17:51.099 down with somebody, you walked out of the room with 345 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:51.440 George W. 346 00:17:51.460 --> 00:17:51.579 Bush. 347 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.599 You're like, I fucking love that guy. He's nice as 348 00:17:53.619 --> 00:17:57.109 could be. The purity checking will end up in a 349 00:17:57.140 --> 00:18:00.839 place where nobody's ever acceptable. Because if anybody gets a 350 00:18:00.859 --> 00:18:02.599 veto and anybody in the room gets a black ball, 351 00:18:02.619 --> 00:18:05.960 then nobody's ever going to run. You're always going to 352 00:18:05.980 --> 00:18:12.200 get the worst possible candidate, the mushiest, boringest, like, milquetoast candidates. 353 00:18:12.809 --> 00:18:14.829 And you've got to have good candidates in this world. 354 00:18:14.849 --> 00:18:17.089 You look at Tallarico. The guy's a good candidate. He's 355 00:18:17.130 --> 00:18:17.690 got the skill. 356 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:23.210 We have an affordability crisis because we have a corruption crisis. 357 00:18:24.089 --> 00:18:26.319 We don't have a government of, by, and for the people. 358 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.220 Things would be different if we did. We have a 359 00:18:29.289 --> 00:18:33.309 government of, by, and for the billionaires. The system is 360 00:18:33.390 --> 00:18:35.829 working exactly as it was intended to work. 361 00:18:36.349 --> 00:18:38.289 You look at Ossoff, he's got the skill. 362 00:18:38.730 --> 00:18:41.690 And while the sailors on the Lincoln fight his war, 363 00:18:43.890 --> 00:18:48.920 while he fruitlessly drains our munitions and oil reserves, the 364 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:56.960 president sleeps through his meetings. He golfs and trades stocks. See, 365 00:18:56.980 --> 00:19:00.930 he doesn't want to do the job. He wants to 366 00:19:00.990 --> 00:19:04.190 build his ballroom and travel with Natalie on their apparently 367 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:06.650 defenseless flying palace gifted by. 368 00:19:06.470 --> 00:19:07.009 The Emir of Qatar. 369 00:19:08.910 --> 00:19:11.019 That is exactly right, Rick, and that's what I say. 370 00:19:11.230 --> 00:19:14.180 I'm a Tallarico Democrat. I'm a, and I, you know 371 00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:16.559 who else I am? I'm a Zoran Mondani Democrat. 372 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:20.119 I hate him. Listen, the guy's got 69% approval in 373 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:24.819 New York City. You know, anybody else, anybody else would 374 00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:25.700 kill for that. 375 00:19:26.230 --> 00:19:29.140 Yeah, exactly. And you know why? It's because he made 376 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:31.039 some promises and he's kept them. 377 00:19:31.500 --> 00:19:36.200 He's shown that there is competence to his conviction, to 378 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.160 the practical politics of making. 379 00:19:40.220 --> 00:19:43.150 The crime rate in New York is an all-time low. 380 00:19:43.890 --> 00:19:46.630 They balanced the budget for the first time in, I 381 00:19:46.650 --> 00:19:50.000 don't know, since Mike Bloomberg in you know, 15, 16 382 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.099 years in a nine-month period of time. He said that 383 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.460 he was going to open up co-op grocery stores. He's 384 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:56.660 opening up five of them. 385 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:57.460 He said he was. 386 00:19:57.420 --> 00:19:58.680 Going to do something about rent. 387 00:19:58.740 --> 00:20:01.180 He was going to do something about rent. And meanwhile, 388 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:02.200 the Democratic. 389 00:20:01.859 --> 00:20:04.900 Party or whatever consists of the Democratic Party, which is 390 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:08.299 a lot of people that is self-appointed talking heads for 391 00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:11.140 the Democratic Party, Go out there and they go, oh, 392 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:13.279 my God, he's a socialist. 393 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:14.579 And I don't know, we're never going to be able 394 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:15.240 to run with that. 395 00:20:15.299 --> 00:20:16.460 And, you know, this is not going to work in 396 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.579 rural America. You know what works in rural America, from 397 00:20:19.619 --> 00:20:22.180 my estimation, is tell people you're going to do something 398 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:24.579 about the fact that they can't get health care and 399 00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:27.440 they're going bankrupt because mom just got cancer. 400 00:20:27.940 --> 00:20:29.589 That's what's going to work. And that's the thing that 401 00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:32.609