1 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,039 Speaker 1: And hello, how are you Welcome to the program. Welcome 2 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:31,000 to the Big Podcast. It is Wednesday. Today is the 3 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:35,000 eighteenth day of February year of all the over twenty 4 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:40,039 twenty six. My name is Tom Sullivan, and well we'll 5 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:43,000 start with we actually have some breaking news today. You 6 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:47,520 may have seen the story about there was an avalanche 7 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,399 up by Lake Tahoe on the California side of the 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Sierra Nevada Mountain range. And there were a number well, 9 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,359 there was a bat Country skiers that had been on 10 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:08,719 a three day trip. So these were not your weekend skiers. 11 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:16,560 These were serious outdoor venture people. And they had fifteen 12 00:01:16,599 --> 00:01:20,439 people involved. Here, three guides and the rest of them 13 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,120 were people that signed up for the three day trip. Well, 14 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:28,680 the avalanche hit, nine of the skiers were trapped, six 15 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,599 of them were rescued. That was the news we had 16 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:37,959 this morning. Late this afternoon, the Nevada County Sheriff's office 17 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:45,079 announced that eight skiers have been found dead, that one 18 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,439 is missing, and the rest of them had previously been rescued. 19 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:56,079 So eight dead, one missing. Here's the sheriff of Nevada County, California. 20 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Everything that they could to assist. 21 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:00,719 Speaker 1: Cause of death. 22 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,719 Speaker 2: Clearly will not be able to be confirmed one. We 23 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,200 still have to UH get to the to the decedents. 24 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,919 We still have to be able to identify those decedents UH, 25 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,599 and then we will determine UH through contract with Placer County. 26 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,599 We contract with them for all of our pathology UH 27 00:02:17,719 --> 00:02:21,520 that that should take some time to determine mechanism of 28 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,599 injury and and truly the cause of death for for 29 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,800 these individuals. The avalanche yesterday UH was about one mile 30 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,520 away from a different avalanche that occurred at the beginning 31 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:42,520 of January in that same Castle Peak area. Please understand 32 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,800 that this incident remains ongoing. Our focus remains on recovering UH, 33 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,120 but the snow and the unsure conditions are creating an 34 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,000 issue to making sure that we can safely do that. 35 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:56,960 We did have a conversation with the families of the 36 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,280 folks that are that are still outstanding UH and let 37 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,919 them know that our mission has went from a rescue 38 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,719 to a recovery. It's a difficult conversation to have with 39 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,759 loved ones, so I please ask for your patients with 40 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:16,280 the family members. This is ongoing and I can't even 41 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:20,680 imagine the amount of questions and stress that those families 42 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:24,080 are going through right now as we move forward through. 43 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: This, well, I know she has to say that they're 44 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:32,960 going to have to have a medical examiner determined the 45 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,879 cause of death and everything else. But I mean, it's 46 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:39,360 an avalanche. They got buried. And it's interesting because these, 47 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:42,439 like I said, were not weakend skiers. These people were 48 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,199 serious outdoorsmen and they go into the back country like 49 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,120 that with technology that supposedly is to keep them safe. 50 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:55,560 But they have beepers and they have things that if 51 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:58,080 you do get buried by an avalanche, that will stand 52 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,199 out a signal and they can find exactly what where 53 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,360 you are. There's a guy named Mike Duffy who is 54 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,199 an expert regarding avalanches. This is before the announcement that 55 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,360 they found eight dead one missing, but he talks about 56 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:16,120 the technology that backcountry skiers have with them. 57 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, just getting into this scene is really tough. 58 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,800 A lot of very impressive what the rescue teams have done. 59 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,879 Hopefully everybody has a transceiver, an avalanche transceiver like this 60 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,360 which most people wear in the back country. They should wear. 61 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,319 You're sending a signal when some one gets buried, you 62 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,839 switch it to search and can also pick up that 63 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,120 signal and pinpoint the person. And if it's a deeper burial, 64 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,720 you're using a probe to get a strike, and then 65 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 when you're shoveling, you're following the probe to get to 66 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,279 the person. The density of the debris can be very 67 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:55,720 hard and it's very hard to shovel through it. It's 68 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,879 very time consuming and it depends on the depth of 69 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:00,839 the burial also. 70 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, time obviously is of the essence. I've seen 71 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:09,399 reports that say if you're buried down there for fifteen minutes, 72 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,839 it may be curtains because there's nowhere. You are packed in. 73 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:18,040 It's not just sitting in soft snow. You are packed 74 00:05:18,079 --> 00:05:21,399 in like a concrete vault. But he talks about some 75 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,000 of the some of the ways they rescue people. 76 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: You know, there's techniques to survive. Some people have avalanche 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,439 airbag packs. It's like being in an avalanche is like 78 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,560 being in a difficult whitewater river, a class five river. 79 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,279 You don't have much control. You try to get onto 80 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:45,439 your back, you try to backstroke out the side, grab 81 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,120 a tree if there's one possible. Before the avalanche picks 82 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:52,600 up speed, you can deploy your avalanche airbag pack which 83 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:55,399 inflates a balloon. 84 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: An air bag. 85 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Increases your volume, decreases your density, and you have a 86 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:04,079 very good chance of being on the surface or close 87 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,839 to the surface. 88 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting. They have quite a bit of technology with 89 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,000 them if you're a backcountry skier, and I presume these 90 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,800 people did, because they had guides and everything else with them. 91 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,839 So still, with all of that, they did not make 92 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,560 it through this. And this was Mike Duffy gave us 93 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,839 those comments from this morning before we found out that 94 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,360 these skiers had passed away. There's a guy who was 95 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:35,399 in more than one avalanche. His name is Conrad Anchor, 96 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,319 and he goes around the world for backcountry skiing, and 97 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,959 this is how he describes the experience. 98 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,519 Speaker 4: My condolences go out to the families of the eight 99 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:53,680 deceased skiers and the one missing. Yeah, news like this 100 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,879 it's hard within our community. We go out to seek 101 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,720 adventure and solace in the mountains, yet at times, as 102 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:08,000 we see here, things can take a turn for the worse. Yeah, 103 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,000 the majority of avalanches happened between thirty and forty five 104 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,399 degrees angle on a slope steeper than that, it sloughs 105 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:18,319 off when it's less steep, the snow is a little 106 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,839 more stable due to the conditions. Two to three foot 107 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,759 snow event in a very short period of time. The 108 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,800 slopes were loaded and there could be a weak layer underneath, 109 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:35,800 so snow that's changed due to temperature. As we see 110 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,560 here in the image, there's a lot of wind. Wind 111 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,120 can transport the snow and increase the weight of it. 112 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,839 All skiers and backcountry enthusiasts that travel and conditions like 113 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:52,800 this carry an avalanche beacon which sends out a paying 114 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,680 of your location, and it also be switched to receiving. 115 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,680 Along with that, we carry shovels in an avalanche pro 116 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:06,720 and overall we probably on average there's three fatalities per 117 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:09,959 year in North America due to avalanches. This year there's 118 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,879 been seventy two in Europe, and so when people go 119 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:18,120 out to adventure in the mountains, they have to accept 120 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,399 that risk that something like this could happen. There's I've 121 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:26,160 had three close calls with avalanches, and I hope that 122 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:28,480 I don't have any other ones. I tried to be 123 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,080 aware of it. But the avalanche that you referenced in 124 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:37,480 nineteen ninety nine was on Shishapangba, the world's fourteenth highest peak. 125 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:42,039 We were in Tibet and we didn't trigger the avalanche. 126 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,000 So that is like we were on the slope and 127 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:48,879 the weight of our our activities triggered the avalanche. Rather 128 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,679 it released spontaneously, probably six thousand feet above us, and 129 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:01,039 increased in momentum as we came down. And when it strikes, 130 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,720 you go from sort of rational thinking to survival, and 131 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:10,519 so that ancient part of our brain is like, how 132 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,080 do we get out of this, and so not necessarily 133 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,120 kind of weighing the pros and cons there, you come 134 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,879 immediately to survival. And something like this is very immediate 135 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,200 where things are tranquil, you're having a good time, you're 136 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,480 in the mountains, and all of a sudden things are 137 00:09:28,519 --> 00:09:33,879 not safe and there's a rush of emotions that go 138 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,240 through and you want to you try to make sense 139 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:40,840 of it. But the power of snow combined with gravity 140 00:09:40,879 --> 00:09:43,399 on a slope like this is much stronger than what 141 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,320 humans can endure. 142 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mother nature is stronger than you think. So sad news, 143 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 but I mean is He went on to talk about 144 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,399 the fact that he loves going out in the back 145 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,440 country where it's so peaceful and so beautiful, and I'm 146 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,919 sure it is is. But like he said, you have 147 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:06,639 to accept the risk of avalanches happen. They're they're not 148 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:12,039 uncommon so in any case, So the news is eight dead, 149 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,639 one still missing. Six were rescued, uh and they're doing 150 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,080 what they have to do to try to get the 151 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,559 bodies out of it. But the storms hitting the West coast. 152 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:28,960 California is getting absolutely whacked. Los Angeles is getting I 153 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,360 think I thought we're getting they're getting bracing for a 154 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,039 for a second wave of one that hit yesterday. Northern 155 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,360 California where Lake Tahoe is, they're getting really hard storms 156 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,480 hitting them and there's a bunch of waves as well. 157 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:50,399 So that's that's the news from from avalanche world. We 158 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:56,360 have another item in the news today. It's the social 159 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:02,799 media trial. It's in Los Angeles. Mark Zuckerberg showed up 160 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:09,159 today not only against Meta, but it's also YouTube as well. 161 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,519 But the accusation is is that Meta and YouTube have 162 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:23,960 intentionally designed Instagram to be addictive. And so it's before 163 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:29,320 a jury, and these are claims made by parents that 164 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:32,919 their children became addicted to some sort of social media. 165 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Here's a couple of them. You listen to their sad comments. 166 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,159 Speaker 5: I would get anything to have my slam pack. And 167 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,559 if they have to learn, if they have to see 168 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:48,679 James faith, if they have to see my tears, I'm 169 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,440 gonna make sure that it happens. If it means that 170 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,639 I can save your grandchildren, I'm gonna do it. 171 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: Ironically, this court case is happening during her birthday next week. 172 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,480 She would be twenty one years old, and I'm going 173 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,360 to be in this courtroom representing her and all the 174 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,039 other kids that have been harmed and died due to 175 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,759 social media platforms. They're putting profits over our kids' lives. 176 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:17,399 Speaker 1: It's impossible to not feel sad for these parents. They 177 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,720 lost their children. They have died, I presume via suicide. 178 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,279 And so of course the parents are looking for somebody 179 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,440 to blame, but they're not looking in the mirror. They 180 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,559 got to find somebody with deep pockets in theirs and lawyers, 181 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,399 Oh yeah, they will find the deep pockets for you. 182 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:45,639 So one of them is a twenty year old and 183 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,000 her mother were at the trial there today and they're 184 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:54,519 again saying that companies are creating addictive features. And I'm 185 00:12:54,559 --> 00:13:00,399 thinking to myself, well, every product is made that way. 186 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:07,960 Hershey makes chocolate bars that I love I made. Yes, 187 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,759 they've made it so that you will love their product. 188 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:15,759 It doesn't matter what product we're talking about. Disneyland made 189 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:17,559 it so that it's so much fun you'll want to 190 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,320 go back. I don't know if addictive is the right word, 191 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,679 but I have certainly found myself going looking around through 192 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,879 YouTube and going down one rabbit hole after another. You 193 00:13:32,039 --> 00:13:35,720 look up and go, man, where did the hour go? So, yes, 194 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:40,159 they are designed to get your attention and for you 195 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:43,480 to use their product, and the longer you use it, 196 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:49,120 the better off because then they get more ads to 197 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,759 play for you that they charge money for. So I 198 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:56,799 don't know if you think your child is being harmed 199 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:02,879 by social media, and if so, what are you doing 200 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,840 about it? Did did these parents just absolve themselves with 201 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:14,759 parental responsibilities? I know, seriously. When I was a young child, 202 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Superman was a television show and I wanted to watch 203 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,759 that in the worst way. I thought Superman was the 204 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,879 coolest show ever, and my parents would not let me 205 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:33,159 watch Superman because there were kids jumping off of roofs 206 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,480 of home of their home thinking that they could fly. 207 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:40,120 So I wasn't allowed to watch Superman. But I don't 208 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,000 know if I would have jumped off a roof, but maybe. 209 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,279 But yes, television shows end up. Remember they blamed video 210 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,639 games for every bad thing the teenagers did for decades. 211 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,799 So now they're using social media and I'm sorry. I've 212 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,639 met the lawyer in this. His name is Mark Lanier. 213 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Mark's been around for a lot. I thought he was 214 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,080 from Texas, but he used to try to get on 215 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,399 Fox a lot, and he would come into New York 216 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,399 and try to and we put him on a number 217 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,399 of times. But he's basically kind of, in my humble opinion, 218 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:24,440 an ambulance chaser. He's a hustler and he's done very well. 219 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,159 He's a very successful lawyer, There's no question about it. 220 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,639 But I'm looking at this and going, why don't you, 221 00:15:32,679 --> 00:15:36,399 why don't you take some responsibility your self? Parents? And 222 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:41,879 if you know anything about how your iPhone works or 223 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:47,120 your Android phone, both of them are full of features 224 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:54,000 built in parent controls. They have. iPhones, I know, use 225 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,399 Apple screen time and family Sharing to manage the apps 226 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,000 in this green time and the content. Google phones use 227 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,159 family Link to monitor apps and screen time limits and 228 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,799 restrict content I mean it's up to the parents to 229 00:16:12,879 --> 00:16:15,600 set to look over the phones and make sure that 230 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:18,600 you've got it set up right, and then to supervise 231 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:23,600 be a parent to your child. So I really do 232 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:27,120 feel like some sort of terrible person, but i'm because 233 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:31,159 these people are obviously devastated with the deaths of their children. 234 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,879 But I guess it's human nature that you don't blame yourself. 235 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:39,440 You've got to find somebody to blame. So they're blaming 236 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:43,840 social media. The problem with this is if this jury 237 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,720 rules against meta and YouTube, then there's going to be 238 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:54,039 thousands of cases that will come along. And I can 239 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,320 Meta and YouTube pay a lot of money short, but 240 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:01,360 it's going to be the scapegoat that I'll let them 241 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:05,160 babysit my children so I don't have to ask a teacher. 242 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:09,519 People send their kids to school so the teacher can 243 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:16,319 babysit their children because they don't want to in any case. 244 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,920 So that's going on today in LA. We'll see. I 245 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,359 hope the jury tells them to go take a flying leap. 246 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:28,200 And speaking of entertainment, I guess this is this is 247 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,720 not entertainment to me, but as talking about whiners out there, 248 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Stephen Colbert is, I'm sorry. I thought he was a 249 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,400 little more adult than he's been acting. He's acting like 250 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,920 a child. He's throwing a temper fit tantrum because of 251 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,240 the fact that the CBS lawyers he wanted to have 252 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:59,559 a guy on his show. What's his name, tall Rico? 253 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Know his first name, James taller Rico. Tatler Rico is 254 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:09,400 a candidate for the Democrat nomination for the US Senate 255 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,960 race in the state of Texas. He's going up against 256 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,240 Jasmine Crockett and taller Rico was supposed to be on 257 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:20,200 his Colbert's show last night, and the lawyer said, you 258 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:23,079 can't have him on because of the equal time rule. 259 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,119 So here's Stephen Colbert whining like a baby. 260 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 7: We were told in no uncertain term by our network's lawyers, 261 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,759 who called us directly, that we could not have him 262 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:38,039 on the broadcast. Then then I was told in some 263 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:41,079 uncertain terms that not only could I not have him on, 264 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,519 I could not mention me not having him on. And 265 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:49,079 because my network clearly doesn't want us to talk about this, 266 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,079 let's talk about this. 267 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: I have a ton to say on this topic. First 268 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:58,000 of all, I've been in broadcasting for a long time 269 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,960 forty six years and one of the they used to 270 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,839 have a fairness rule, and they did away with that 271 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,440 back in the mid eighties. And Rush Limbaugh credited the 272 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,200 demise of that rule that was done during the Reagan 273 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,200 administration with his success because he did not have to 274 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,960 have on. It used to be you have a Democrat on, 275 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,119 you have to have a Republican on, and vice versa. 276 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,279 And they did away with the fairness rule because they 277 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,880 determined that there were enough broadcasters, enough radio stations, enough 278 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,839 TV stations. Podcasts didn't even exist back in the eighties, 279 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,440 that people can sample around and get their information about 280 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,400 what they want to listen to and what they want 281 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,759 to believe and what they don't want to believe. But 282 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:54,079 when it came to politicians actively campaigning during a campaign, 283 00:19:54,079 --> 00:19:57,880 and in Texas, the primary is March third, but early 284 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,559 voting has already started, so the voting is underway. And 285 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,559 what I was told this back in the nineteen eighties 286 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,119 by the lawyers, that if you're going to have somebody 287 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:17,039 on that's campaigning, you have to offer equal time to 288 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:22,440 their opposition. Okay, that those were the rules. So you 289 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:26,640 either invited nobody on or you had to invite all 290 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,319 of them on for some particular race that's been around 291 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,720 for a long time. So for Stephen Colbert to whine 292 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:37,000 about it in twenty twenty six, I'm going, okay, so 293 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,759 maybe he's not all that well informed. Seemed like a 294 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:44,759 smart guy but apparently did not know about this. But 295 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:47,160 the other part about this, and I said this when 296 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,599 CBS cut his show loose and said we're going to 297 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,839 get rid of you. One of the rules in broadcasting 298 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,960 when you give somebody the pink slip, you never let 299 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,160 them go back into a studio because they're going to 300 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:06,039 whine and complain and throw the company under the bus. 301 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:10,079 And that's exactly what Colbert is doing. So shame on 302 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:15,200 CBS for basically taking his key away from him. They 303 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:17,799 led him back into the studios. So stand by because 304 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:22,119 he's got something like forty more shows before his tenure 305 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:27,000 is over with the Late Show. But it's CBS, shame 306 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:31,079 on you, Stephen Colbert. You sound like a whiny little 307 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,920 kid having a temper tantrum. In my humble opinion, and 308 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:38,720 speaking of CBS, there was a big ruckus. You probably 309 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:41,079 didn't know, but being in the media, I really picked 310 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,079 up on it. There was a segment that was scheduled 311 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:49,079 to run on sixty minutes on CBS about a month ago, 312 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,559 and Barry Weiss, the new head of CBS News x NATed, 313 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,720 said no, you can't run that. And so the spoiled 314 00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:02,720 staff over at sixty minutes said that censorship. How can 315 00:22:02,759 --> 00:22:05,839 you possibly do that? And Barry Weiss came out and said, 316 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,839 you never asked the other side there was. It was 317 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480 something about the Trump administration, and they never went to 318 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:16,599 the Trump administration to get their side of the story. 319 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,640 So Barry Weiss said, until you go get the other 320 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,880 side of the story, which journalists are supposed to do, 321 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,680 we're not going to run this. And you heard they 322 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,920 were squealing like stuck pigs over there at sixty minutes. 323 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,759 So they're all upset about Barry Weiss. But I think 324 00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:36,680 Barry Weiss is a breath of fresh air. She is 325 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:42,000 requiring them to do journalism, something that they have gotten 326 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:46,000 away with for decades. They just did one side of 327 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:51,759 the story and that was it. So sixty minutes I 328 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:55,480 think I don't know if that. I presume it will survive, 329 00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:59,799 but thank goodness that Barry Weiss is there to be 330 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:03,680 secretly right the ship at CBS. She's got her work 331 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240 cut out for her. Let's get to the talks. There's talks, 332 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,599 well her word, talks going on regarding Iran in the 333 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,640 U West, and there was also talks about Russia and Ukraine. 334 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,519 Let's start with Iran those talks. Iron said, okay, well, 335 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:23,519 thanks so much. We're going to go back to Tehran 336 00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:25,720 and we'll think about this and get back to you 337 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:29,480 in a couple of weeks. So Dan Hoffman, former CIA 338 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,200 station chief in Moscow, he was asked, what do you 339 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:35,039 make of that latest chess move by Iran? 340 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 8: Well, I think Iran is trying to deter the United 341 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,359 States from launching attacks connectic attacks on their territory, as 342 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,279 the Trump administration did back in June of last year. 343 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,799 The sticking point in these talks, and we aren't privy 344 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:52,920 to all of the details, but it appears that they're 345 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,359 discussing only Iran's nuclear program. And remember that President Trump 346 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,599 withdrew from the JCPOA because of the sun clauses on 347 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,759 Iran's nuclear program and the fact that the JCPOA never 348 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:09,000 addressed Iran's ballistic missile program or Iran's material support to 349 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,079 their proxy terrorists. And so I think that's the concern 350 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,880 for the Trump administration if Iran doesn't come to the 351 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,599 negotiating table serious about negotiating. Iran put out a rosy 352 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,559 picture of the discussions thus far, but I don't think 353 00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:24,440 that President Trump has taken that at face value. And 354 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480 if the Iranians are doubting whether this president is serious 355 00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:30,160 about launching kinetic strikes, they can just go back and 356 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,720 rewind the tapes on the strike against the IRGC commander 357 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,519 Solamani or again those strikes against Iran's. 358 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: Nuclear facilities last year. 359 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,759 Speaker 8: So I think, based on my experience at CIA and 360 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:45,440 there are probably some backchannel messages being delivered toere Iran 361 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,960 emphasizing that we are indeed serious about launching kinetic strikes 362 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,599 if Iran isn't coming to the negotiating table and good faith, 363 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,240 and then concurrently I would expect that our intelligence community 364 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,440 is on full alert, mounting a full court press. See 365 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:06,599 reflections around Iranian leadership, especially the IRGC and iron Security Services, 366 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,839 just to see how they're responding. Are they taking these 367 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:12,759 threats seriously or not? Are they coming to the negotiating 368 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,039 table really with an interest in dealing with these overriding 369 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:19,920 issues of concern to the region and the United States. 370 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,920 I think that's what we're going to see, but don't 371 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,279 expect that it's just a two week period. For sure, 372 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:26,799 the Trump administration may decide that they want to launch 373 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:31,519 strikes earlier than that. There's always that possibility as well, 374 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,440 and there's more and more people that think that's exactly 375 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:38,160 what will happen. Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State in 376 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,319 Trump one point zero, thinks that may be a possibility. 377 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:46,039 Speaker 9: Remember, they don't think the way we do. They're not logical. 378 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,680 This isn't about a business deal for them. This is 379 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,279 about protection of a regime, the theocracy that's been in 380 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:55,000 place now for forty seven years, and so they are 381 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:58,559 willing to make enormous sacrifices of their own people. Best 382 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,279 evidence of that is killed tens of thousands of their 383 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:05,039 own citizens just in the last thirty days. So we 384 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,680 tend to think about this in the West as a 385 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,680 logical business and negotiation. For them, this is about regime 386 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,720 protection and sustainability. They're prepared to go down with the 387 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,440 ship this time, it appears. I think President Trump and 388 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,119 the Israelis understand that this is a moment where Iran 389 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,880 is at its weakest point, not its strongest. And I 390 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,680 can't imagine this much build up of military power in 391 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,359 the region without President Trump actually taking action that leads 392 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,519 to an outcome that he's been seeking for an awfully 393 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:33,960 long time against the Iranians. 394 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so standby because there's a huge military build up 395 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:45,000 over there near Iran, And like Dan Hoffman said, President 396 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:50,200 Trump may just go quiet and just take action, just 397 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,039 absolutely take action. Pompeo also was asked about the talks 398 00:26:55,079 --> 00:27:01,279 between Russia and Ukraine and how he thinks that's going. 399 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,799 Speaker 9: Look, I think the end of this war actually takes 400 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,599 place only when Vladimir Putin feels pressure sufficient to give 401 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,400 up the ship. He doesn't feel that today, so he's 402 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,559 going to stay at this. I don't think there's any 403 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,559 land deal today. Vladimir Putin would actually take short of 404 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,599 all of Ukraine falling under Russian influence, if not Russian control. 405 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: I literally I've watched this. 406 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 9: We're now coming what were two three days from the 407 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:28,000 fourth anniversary of this conflict. The Ukrainians have agreed to 408 00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:30,880 many concessions, things that Putin has wanted that they didn't 409 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,440 want to give up. Vladimir Putin has given not a 410 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,839 single concession to date. This is what's going to have 411 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,160 to change. It's going to require more time and more pressure. 412 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,680 I think the Ukrainian population is both tired and yet committed. 413 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,640 They've demonstrated they're willing to fight for their own land 414 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240 and their own country and their political independence. I don't 415 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,039 see that changing. 416 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:55,559 Speaker 1: And an update for you on day eighteen for the 417 00:27:55,559 --> 00:28:01,799 search for Nancy Guthrie, TMZ is saying that they have 418 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,799 obtained yet another ransom note today. This one, they say, 419 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,680 is a highly sophisticated demand involving a cryptocurrency other than bitcoin. 420 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,480 They're demanding a dollar amount similar to the six million 421 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:21,000 that previously asked for a previous email, and the email 422 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,880 graphically describes the consequences if the ransom isn't paid. So 423 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:31,279 they're threatening now and that's been sent on from TNZ 424 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:37,640 to the folks over at the FBI. The latest investigator 425 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,559 on this, Detective John Bueller, talking about the reports that 426 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,400 the FBI is going around to gun stores in Tucson 427 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,119 with names of people and wanting to know if the 428 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,559 gun store had sold a gun to any of these 429 00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:58,400 people on this list. And apparently the list comes from 430 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,400 people that have bought that holster. It's a unique holster, 431 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,599 and the FBI has the names of everybody who bought 432 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,799 that holster recently in the Tucson area apparently, and so 433 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,799 they're showing the names to the gun shop owners in Tucson. 434 00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:20,319 So John Bueller says, yeah, that's not uncommon. 435 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a common tactic that detectives will do when 436 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,319 they're tracing down leads because they're looking for somebody that 437 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,720 may have made a recent firearms purchase that could be 438 00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:32,200 related by physical build to the suspect that we see 439 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,839 in the doorbell camera. The standard tactics, standard things that 440 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,039 they do. Of course, it doesn't rule out the possibility 441 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:41,160 that the guy didn't have the gun for several months 442 00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,920 or several years and he's been involved in other stuff. 443 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,680 But at this time, really the big thing that would 444 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,000 help with us is that genetic genealogy DNA stuff, the 445 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,160 foreign blood or the foreign DNA that was found there 446 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640 at the residence seems to be the key to identify 447 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,839 this guy. Now, of course, the sheriff hasn't released any 448 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 information about how the subject got into the house and 449 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,799 how Nancy was abducted, and that's wise because you don't 450 00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:07,880 want that out there. But that's the one thing that 451 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000 if we had, if he released that, we'd have a 452 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,960 lot more to talk about then, just trying to guess 453 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,799 that things on a limited amount of information that they're 454 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:15,319 giving out. 455 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,559 Speaker 1: Well, all that DNA is being sent over to the 456 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,759 genealogy genetics and doctor calling Fitzpatrick is one of the 457 00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:26,359 people that does that for a living. 458 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 11: They all share certain amounts of DNA with mister X 459 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,839 and the more they share, the closer they're related. The 460 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,519 less they share, the more distant. So we look at 461 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,960 the matches hoping, you know, we get somebody close enough, 462 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,480 like you share half and half the match is going 463 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:46,079 to be that guy's parent or child. Ten percent he's 464 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,039 probably a first cousin or an uncle. 465 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: So they're busy on on doing that, looking at building 466 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,640 family trees. So we'll see if something comes out of that. 467 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,680 Probably the most prom a person in genetic genealogy is 468 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,559 a woman by the name of C. C. Moore, And 469 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:06,839 she was asked about all of this today and she 470 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,079 says it can take She's solved the case in twenty minutes. 471 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,960 That's the fastest she's done it. But others she said 472 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:20,039 could take years, so we don't know obviously how long 473 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:22,160 it's going to take. But the DNA that they have 474 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,559 in Tucson is off on its way to genetic genealogist 475 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,480 to take a look at what all that is about. 476 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,480 So Wall Street today everything had a green arrow. The 477 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:38,200 Dow was up one hundred twenty nine. That finished at 478 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,400 forty nine thousand and six. Sixty two has to be 479 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,039 up a little, up thirty eight points. Nazdak up one 480 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200 hundred and seventy eight points, I'm sorry, up one hundred 481 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,559 seventy five. The price of gold up ninety five dollars 482 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,480 right at five thousand, and the price of oil was 483 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,279 up two dollars and seventy cents. It's a sixty five dollars. 484 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,400 Part of that is the Iranians are holding military exercises 485 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,160 in the Strait of Hormuz, which is disrupting the busiest 486 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,599 oil lane in the world. So oil is getting a 487 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,920 little rattled on that. So that's it for today. Thank 488 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000 you for coming by. We will be back again tomorrow. 489 00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,640 I hope you are with me then as well. I'll 490 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,119 see you then.