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Speaker 2: Ramdella ringdy.

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Speaker 3: You don't even last of mine?

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Speaker 2: Run Don Brudo, Randol made a bar by run Don Rudolf, Santa,

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do make it to town.

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Speaker 1: Santa Maga her in town.

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Speaker 2: Na can take the freeway down.

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Speaker 4: Run Don Rudolf, being an Americal Right, okay, yeah, saying

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Santa to bo a child, what have you been longing for?

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Speaker 2: None of my for Christmas is a rocking ball lectric guitar.

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Not away when brudoh, w isn't I gonna shoot the star? Run,

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Don Rudolf said, do.

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Speaker 1: I get to child sat up?

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Speaker 5: All right down on?

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Speaker 4: He can take the freeway hour run, Don Brudo being

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America round okay, run run Rudof said, don't I get

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to child.

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Speaker 1: Sat Nick ahead?

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Speaker 4: He can take a freeway no hour run Don Brudo,

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being like America.

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Speaker 3: Ronda saying saying that to you, my girl child, what

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would please you want to get.

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Speaker 1: A little baby doing?

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Speaker 6: They can grass see drink and whit.

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Speaker 2: Not a way, he went. Rudolph whiz like a Saba.

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Speaker 1: Jets run un Ruddle, Santa.

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Speaker 7: Go may get to town.

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Speaker 1: Sat I make Amory turn im.

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Speaker 4: He can take the freeway down, Run, don bodle feeling

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like American Right, Okay, run non go go n n

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run on budd run don run good feel America.

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Speaker 1: Nothing around.

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Speaker 6: That is run Roudolph Run. And that is a brand

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new from Neon Gypsy, their rendition of that track, which

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we had Neon Gypsy here with us in the first

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hour today on the program, and then we had the

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Healer Mike McDowell for the second hour, and we've got

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Cody Pope and Byron g coming up for the third

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hour and they're going to perform live again. So always

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love that. By the way, I want to remind everybody,

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of course, because today is if you are listening live,

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December twenty first, twenty twenty four, this afternoon, we have

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the holiday market and psychic event that is being put

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on by our wonderful friends at the Sister Witch Company.

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Jenny is there right now, which is why she's not here.

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She is there getting set up and she's going to

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be selling her wonderful Macroma creations and there's going to

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be a lot of local artisans there, local small businesses participating.

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So if you've got some holiday shopping to do, please

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come down. It's at the Masonic Temple at fifteen oh

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five Elm Street. And as I like to say, Walmart

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and Target do not need any more of your money.

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Please support your local businesses and it really does mean

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so much. And if you want more information you can

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go to Sisterwitch Company dot com. But that starts at noon.

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That is where I will be headed after the show

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today noon to five pm the Holiday market and a

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psychic event at the Manchester Masonic Temple fifteen oh five

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Elm Street. And let me bring these mics up and

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we've got Cody Pope and Byron g here with us

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, Hey, good morning man, thanks so much for

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Speaker 6: Yeah, welcome back, welcome back, And hope you weren't waiting

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outside too long. It's a little chilly today.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, it was perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: Hey, hat a justice.

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Speaker 6: Camera here, Get you guys in the shot. Of course

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we are on Facebook and YouTube and all that stuff.

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There we go, there we go. How have you guys

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been what's going on? Have you been releasing new music

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or what have you been up to?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so in October we just released our our sophomore

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full length album, Giant Steps in Gates City, excellent. Yeah,

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so that spent We did a big release show for that,

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and it's been a pretty wild ride since then.

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Speaker 6: Where did you Where'd you do the release show?

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Speaker 7: So we did it in our hometown in Nashaua. We

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like rented a hall and put together this whole experience.

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and had a photo booth and had a bunch of

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the artists from hell Hound open up the night. It

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Speaker 6: Nice, nice. Yeah, you guys must know. Do you know

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Mike McDowell the Healer? Did you run into him on.

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Speaker 7: This We literally just shook hands and met as we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's doing some he's doing some great stuff. And

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you must know Eleanor and Andre from So.

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to go to New Hampshire Underground and hang out with

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them for a bit. They're awesome people.

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Speaker 6: Oh, excellent, excellent. I don't think they've done like a

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full hip hop show. I mean, obviously six Minds combined, Yeah,

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performs there but yeah, they should do uh, you should

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do something with them, like do a big hip hop show.

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the dates will align in that we can make something

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I really like their space. I think that it's really

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conducive to fostering a positive like live music and arts scene,

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and they offer resources and spaces for people that I

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think are really valuable. So I'm looking forward to seeing

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what they're capable of doing with that. I think that's

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gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, Well I'm dying to hear you guys. You

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always perform when you come on the show, which is wonderful.

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And now the real test, of course is always making

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sure that what have you got? What do you what

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do you call that? Byron?

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Speaker 5: This is the Roland SP four O four m K two.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and what does that do for the For the uninitiated.

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like that, so I can load up pads and I

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can manipulate the sound.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of live as we're going so okay, you.

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Speaker 9: Never really get the same experience twice with these types

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Speaker 6: Right right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: For those listening live, if you're wondering how these guys

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are going to perform live, that's what let's see if

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let's see if we can hear that. And I'm not

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hearing anything yet, but I think I know why. Oh

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there we go fucking easy. Yeah. This is always the

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that's always the moment, right when when you guys come on,

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it's like, let's let's hope this last.

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Speaker 1: This works well.

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Speaker 6: The first time you came on, we did the Yeah,

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we did the flash drive option the very first time

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in the old station, and.

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Speaker 7: That was our first album together too.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah. How many times have you

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Speaker 7: Is this this is our third time?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 7: No, it's not your fourth.

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Speaker 5: No, I think you've been up here before.

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Speaker 7: We had done stuff up in Laconia. Oh okay, maybe

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that's we did local outbreak up in Laconi.

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Speaker 6: That's why I'm thinking that, yeah, both of us.

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songs and then the next time was we released an

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it was the Renaissance Park. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys have released a lot of music.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to Yeah, yeah, it's been a while.

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Speaker 6: Well, do you want to perform something?

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Speaker 7: Or yeah? All right we have you have No Sugar

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Added A good way to warm up. This is the

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the new album. Okay, it's the second track. It's called

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No Sugar Added.

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Speaker 6: Okay, check check.

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Speaker 7: I've been in a days. Mine's amazing a blaze. I've

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been catching fighter since before the twelfth grade. I had

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this design you for couldn't getting out my way. Now

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I'm double the age, still rewinded the days. Can't believe

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what all I's done. I'm still looking back, been cleaning

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up because still remember the cooking crap. The strength that

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had for the needle, never quite took it back. Some

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days I still find that I'm quite shook. In fact,

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the light keeps going out. Maybe that's a sign for me.

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I have accepted that one day will be time for

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me someone's revenge. I suppose that it's fine with me.

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Nothing in life off didn't happen with the time and

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sweet all I can do. Work to build a good now,

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and then stay in the sun to makeup of days

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the shrouded in dens, I am the howling man standing

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upon the howland winds, night of the hunt of the preacher,

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upon the prowl. Again not perfect, not even close to

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all right. I can't remember the last time I slept

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all night, eyes wide open. But I need another hour.

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I just fell asleep already. Time for the shower. No sugar,

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no sugar. I just need water, meant the lea I

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can pad.

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Speaker 5: No sugar added, no sugar added.

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Speaker 7: Somewhere between apocalypse now anxiety and alarms again, hope my

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horrible ways could never harm a friend. Some men crossed

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me again, never saw him again, even the he the

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Nord demon can fall from a sin who called it again?

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I'm not sorry to them. Drowning in my own flood,

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I hardly can swim. Then I stopped too late. How

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could I be so selfish do the stupidest things, but

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know that I'm not helpless? Bad patterns, habits I need

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to learn to break. I'm mad scattered this matter. If

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I need to learn to shake, we'll extinguish over light

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the match to burn the lake, every roll of the dice,

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the one determined faith, slipping into the void for just

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a few hours to win my best to not flip.

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I got no new flower. My dreamscape is the place

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that I do scout in search of advances, like how

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I could bet the US power? Not perfect, not even

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close to all right, can't remember the last time I

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slept all night. I was wide open. But I need

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another hour. I just fell asleep already. Time for the shaft.

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No sugar added, no sugar added. I just need water,

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meant to leave, I get padded, no sugar added, no

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sugar added. Somewhere between being happy and mad and.

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and Ryron g Here whatever live in studio on this

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't hear everybody. At first. I was like,

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oh crap, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: You made it work, You made it work.

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Speaker 7: Volumes a magical thing.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Now tell us about you know. For people

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who are not familiar, so because you refer to it

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Hellhound Publishing, Yeah, what is that exactly? For people who

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Speaker 7: So, Hellhound Publishing is a record label that I founded

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in twenty eighteen and that Byron now co owns with me,

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and so that is essentially our creative house where we

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not only do we distribute in all of our music,

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but we've been fortunate to sign and release music for

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some artists that we're really close with as well. Okay,

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we do music, we do some books, and we do podcasts.

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Those are really like our big things right now.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, and yeah, you've talked about that on the

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show before. Has that kind of has that kind of

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grown in terms of who you're working with, Like you

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have more artists that you're that you're working with or

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the I think the first time you talked about it

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on the show, you had just kind of started that

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or you had started working together on that.

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only released a few records at that point, and now

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on the record label.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, Yeah, okay, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I feel very fortunate to say that after all this time.

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But yeah, it's been quite the wild ride.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, know, Wow, so who now, who else

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are you working with currently were you releasing music?

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Speaker 7: So our roster that's active right now consists of mostly producers,

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but so they go out and perform a lot of

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instrumental shows and we have instrumental albums out for them

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as well. So we represent even Though, who is originally

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from Nashua but is now based out of the Worcester area.

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of sound, but then because he comes from like a

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boom back background, there's like a really cool blend of

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like an almost ambient boombap kind of sound. We represent

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an artist named Tripsey who's based out of Boston, Massachusetts area.

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He has a very electronic heavy sound. I like to

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compare him to like an Aphex Twin or a fat

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Boy Slim something along like very like high energy like

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party music. We also represent eight Biza as well. I

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know you know Biza. He has obviously been a long

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time contributor to the label and to my music as well,

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and so he's always yeah, yeah, he's always been a

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big part of the equation as well. And that is

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that's really the core of like artists that we have

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releases coming out for okay, but for twenty five where

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we're hoping to kind of expand the palette a little more. Yeah,

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we've kind of changed the way that we operate as

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a label a bit, and we've also like we've moved

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our headquarters. We had been in the same place for

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over ten years. Wow, So now we just moved into

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a new place and that's really evolved how we can

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operate as a label and a lot of capacities. So

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we may not have as many releases coming out in

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twenty five, but we fortunately have like really big plans

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and a lot more resources to apply to them now,

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which is exciting.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, very good. Now, why why the when

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you when you talk about the changes in terms of

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how you do things, is that is that something that

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does that come from kind of learning as you go

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or or does some of it I'm curious if some

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of it has to do too with you know, the

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music business is constantly changing and you know now and

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but now AI is kind of really changing things. I mean,

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does does that play a role?

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Speaker 7: I would say, and you might have a different experience

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to speak to it for me as like a label owner.

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I always sought to be the person that I thought

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I would have wanted to have around as an artist,

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But I learned that I wasn't being the person that

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the artist needed, and that those are two separate things

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where you could want more than you actually need, and

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so not everybody's wants parallel, and so I had to

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learn how to manage the artists better on the release

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side of things, because with some of the early releases

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we put out on the label, we were very We

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were very involved in the record terms of like being

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in weekly meetings, trying to make plans, and some of

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the artists we were literally tracking all their music in

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our free time and doing the artwork for I've done

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the artwork for most of the releases on the label

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a lot of so we were like super involved, which

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feels good. But I think what we learned is that

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artists need to kind of finish the idea on their

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own and then kind of like be like, you know,

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we were trying to build things out of scratch with

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an artist, and really the artist has to kind of

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have that idea and figure out what they would do

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even if we weren't in the picture and if they

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were going to do that anyways, that's where we can

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be of the most service to them. But as artists,

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we have certain expectations for ourselves, and so it's not

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fair to apply those expectations to everybody unilaterally. Every artist

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requires a specific kind of like catered two means of

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getting their thing done, and if we love the art enough,

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we're going to work on on how to be that

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to each artist and still maintain the integrity of what

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we're trying to do personally.

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Speaker 6: That makes sense because everyone's process is different.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Now, now what about AI in terms of like, uh,

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like releasing music? Do you have to? Does it get

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complicated now?

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Speaker 8: With UH?

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Speaker 6: I mean it's it's incredible what's going on, Like I

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I see uh, you know, like major labels are suing

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AI companies and there's all this there's all this mess,

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like do you have to does it become a consideration

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when releasing music? Like is there an AI sample or

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something in here? Is there something that is going to

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cause us a problem down the road? And are there

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headaches that come with that?

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Speaker 9: So it's I think personally, there's there's good and there's

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bad for for the sample based producers that like to

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dig in you know, old records of like old crates

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of records and things like that, which I am one

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of them. It makes it a little bit harder to

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kind of chop and and when it comes to release time,

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if you have samples on your beats, you kind of

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it's it's different now. It's definitely AI is picking up

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on a lot of that stuff. Doesn't mean that there's

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a place for it, because there definitely still is and

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a lot of you know, Snoop and dre are releasing.

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I mean, it's probably a little bit different because they

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have the actual stems from the artists, but.

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Speaker 5: There's different avenues where you could go for that type

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of stuff now.

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Speaker 9: But on the other side of things, I've been using

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AI to generate uh hord progressions and and different sounds

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and stuff like that, and i've you know.

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Speaker 6: You cant firing. Can you pull that, Michael a little bit?

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Just yeah, just I noticed it was just dropping out.

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Yeah it is, that's better. Yeah, thank you, it's just

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it it starts to sorry about that, want to make

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sure we can hear you. I'm sorry, good, Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: On the other other side of things.

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Speaker 9: I've been using AI to generate melodies and chords and

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picking my keys and blending and mashing a bunch of

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like AI generated stuff and basically using them as my

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samples as of late.

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Speaker 5: Chopping it up that way, okay, and doing it that way.

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Speaker 9: It's all like you're you're the creator, so there's no

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royalties or there's no copyright infringement cases that you run

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into doing it that way, and it's different. There's a

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million different possibilities. And I'm the type of guy it's like,

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as we evolve, as you know, producers and just musicians,

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if you're not using all of the elements that are

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at your hands these days, you're gonna fall behind. So

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there's good and there's bad. It's just all about how.

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Speaker 5: You look at it. I think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, adaptability is so important absolutely, and yeah, adapting technologies. Yeah,

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I was talking to somebody about that in terms of

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doing a like a radio show. You know, like there

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was a time when a radio show would just be

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on the radio, but we've had to adapt to you

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know now you know, podcasting and streaming and all of that,

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and and if you don't if you don't do that, yeah,

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if you don't adapt, you fall behind.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I would never like take someone's voice right

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and have them say specifically rics like I wouldn't use

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AI or anything like that. Yeah, But in terms of

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like creating, I'm definitely messing around with AI.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it comes to creating melodies and stuff like that. Sure.

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Speaker 7: Sure, So I think the thing that's important with AI,

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and that's why I'm glad you spoke on it because

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you have more experience with it. I don't. But I

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just from like a outside looking in perspective kind of thing,

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I feel like there's a lot of fear around AI

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taking on creative tasks and things of that nature. And

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I think the the ultimate responsibility or obligation is that like,

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if we don't determine how AI is going to be used,

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other things are going to determine that for us. And

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so it's like, rather than being afraid of AI and

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being so against it, figure out how to implement it

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into your life in the ways it that you want.

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is that it's like you want AI to take care

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of menial tasks and things that are time consuming and

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take away from you, like living your most life. So

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it's like if we sit back and wait for AI

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to become what it is, it's going to take the

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things we love instead, because nobody like stepped in and

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said like no, I want to do this part, like

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do this task for me instead. And I don't have

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any experience using it, So that's why it's like hard

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for me to really like put my foot down one

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way or another. But I just feel like we have

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to kind of like we are the users of AI,

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so we have to dictate what purpose it's going to

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serve to us before it becomes consequential.

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Speaker 6: Got to be proactive with it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, I think like for independent artists,

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it definitely can be like an attribute to you because

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as an independent artist, you have to you have to

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wear so many hats, right, whether it's creating artwork or

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whether it's you know, coming up with videos or whatever,

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and AI can be a huge help for that stuff

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if you're not specifically like a drawing artist to make

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up your own artwork whatever it is, right, Yeah, definitely

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use AI to help you out on that side of

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things too.

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Speaker 7: And even just like like task stuff, I would think

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more so you know, like as somebody who makes artwork,

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it's like, I like, I like that side of things.

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But I'm sure even as like maybe an engineer or

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like a radio show producer, there's certain like engineering things

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where it's like I wish this, I wish my mixer

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just always set to these levels, or I wish my

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fader just always went to this thing, or I wish

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my preset always went you know, these are kind of

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the initial These are things that like a I could

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probably do for us is like set these kind of

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prerequisite things so that when we go to use our

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creative tools, they're like in the right settings or whatever.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, everything else as long as you put the time

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behind to learn the things you know, and you can

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manipulate anything in your favor. Yeah, you know, as long

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as you put the time in and effort to figure

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it out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, I agree. Well said you guys

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want to play another one?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you think? Maybe gratitude?

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Speaker 6: Sure, if you're just joining us. We have Cody Pope

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and Byron g here with us live in studio. Let

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me get that. Uh, there we go.

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Speaker 5: I gotta find this joint.

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Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

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Speaker 7: I hate that I'm sad, but my love monks feel

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so glad that he's a lead tripping Don't know, Vie,

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I'm so mad man, got a lot to be gratefulfore,

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You've awn I'm down, bad man.

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Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

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I hate that I'm sad, but my love monks feel

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so glad that he's a lead tripping Don't know why.

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Speaker 7: I'm so mad man, got a lot to be grateful for.

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Speaker 1: You've awen. I'm damn bad man.

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Speaker 7: Wake up in my brain already feeling dark. Get the couch, already,

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chase a spot, contemplating in my sick or unhealthy. It's

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this depression of calma for unwealthy enough Cleverty to know

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that I'm the end of me, the one destroying me,

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the one should be defending me. Gotta take time enough

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to know you can't make time, So make mind feel

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with the things that shape live. What you heard on

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the great vine might not taste right, so you don't

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gotta make wine. You'll still make life. Plant that seed

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that gone well in your family with the real money tree,

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life's optical standing fees. Still days I'm fighting to guest trooper.

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But I survived when not for me, my trooper, when

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the fight come at the door, you can't be true.

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You missed that chance. Might well.

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Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it.

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Speaker 7: I hate that I'm sad, but my loved ones feel

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so glad man.

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Speaker 1: He's the lead tripping. Don't know why, I'm so mad man.

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Speaker 7: Got a lot to be grateful for even when I'm down,

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bad man.

477
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Some days I wake up and I wish I had it,

478
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,319
And I hate that I'm sad, but on the loved

479
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,880
ones feel so bad man.

480
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,519
Speaker 7: He's the lead tripping Don't no, Bob, I'm so mad man.

481
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,599
You got a lot to be grateful for, even when

482
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:18,599
I'm down bad man. Some days I wake up.

483
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:19,799
Speaker 4: Wake up.

484
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 6: Mmm, good stuff, guys, good stuff.

485
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 7: Thank you.

486
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 6: If you're just joining us, we have Cody Pope and

487
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,119
Byron g here with us live in studio and uh yeah,

488
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,400
I love that track and it's it's very relatable.

489
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,599
Speaker 7: I Uh I have those days, right, That's the thing,

490
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,640
you know, I feel like most of us do. And yeah,

491
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,920
when we're in those moments, you kind of feel like

492
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,599
you're the only person and it's like, man, how is

493
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,079
like the world really like crashing down on me. But

494
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,039
when you realize how many people in your life have

495
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,359
made it to that next day, it's like, all right,

496
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:01,160
let me let me just try and like for a minute, yeah,

497
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,079
and stop thinking about what's weighing on me and like

498
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240
figure out what's like lifting me instead.

499
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, no, I like that a lot. You know,

500
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,240
I'm pretty public about it. I struggle with depression, and

501
00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:14,519
so I can I can relate to that, you know.

502
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,160
I hear those lyrics and it's like, yeah, yeah, I

503
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,920
get it. I get it.

504
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 8: Now?

505
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,279
Speaker 6: Are you so the new album it just came out.

506
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 7: It came out in October.

507
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 6: Came out in October, so pretty recent.

508
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:27,519
Speaker 5: Yeah are you?

509
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,279
Speaker 6: Are you already working on the next one? It seems

510
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:31,079
like you guys are pretty prolific. You put out a

511
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,640
lot of music.

512
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,839
Speaker 7: Yeah. So we have a lot of stuff in the

513
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,279
vault right now, and we definitely have some releases planned

514
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,079
for next year. But we're gonna, honestly spend a lot

515
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,519
of time with this record. We've been working on visuals

516
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:47,720
for it. So we do these seminars called inside the Music.

517
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:50,680
We do them at Nashville Public Library, and oh yeah,

518
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440
we take songs from our records and kind of break

519
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:56,720
down the lyrics and the stories and the Ryan patterns,

520
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,400
the references, and he'll break down the stems of how

521
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,960
the song composed. And we put one together for Giant Steps,

522
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,079
and we didn't get to do it in time for

523
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,279
the release. So that's gonna be one of the things

524
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:13,880
that we do this spring is Return of the Library seminar,

525
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,759
and so we really just want to give people time

526
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,279
to take this record in. It's eighteen songs, and we

527
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,039
have a documentary coming out for it on Monday, which

528
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
really covers like from when we did meet Me in

529
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,160
Gates City to where we're at now. And so there

530
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,279
was like a lot of like obstacles along the way

531
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,240
of getting the album out, and so because it took

532
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,519
us so long to get here, we're really hoping that

533
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,519
we can afford to take time with this record over

534
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,160
next year because there's a lot to take in. You know,

535
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,279
it's eighteen songs. It's a very like in depth personal record.

536
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:53,839
It's the essentially like the follow up to you know,

537
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880
the first record that we did Meet Me in Gate

538
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,720
City was shortly after we met as Peple, you know,

539
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:04,559
and like we met and within a year and some change,

540
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,519
we had a full length album out and had been

541
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:10,319
playing all over the region and running this label together,

542
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:14,039
and so so much has happened in that time, and

543
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,480
we've learned a lot. We've both gone through so much

544
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,200
in our personal lives, and so the album is really

545
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,720
a document of so much of that that it's hard

546
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,720
to like move on to the next thing already. Where

547
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,880
like we have, like we have an EP that we

548
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,680
had already recorded. I have a actually I have a

549
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,160
project with Biza that we're hoping to put out next year.

550
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,519
Cool I have a live band record that him that

551
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440
he's helped me engineer that we've been working on for

552
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,119
a couple of years. We worked some great artists from Maine.

553
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720
So we have stuff that we're hoping to put out

554
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,599
next year. But it just is, ah, everything's kind of

555
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,920
happening on a feeling now where we did so much

556
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,599
stuff on setting deadlines that we thought fit within our

557
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,799
market place, and our audience has really shown us that

558
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,720
we can dictate our own marketplace, and the best way

559
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,160
to do that is to not compromise the integrity of

560
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,519
these records. And so we're really hoping and frankly you know,

561
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,720
just to be like honest about it. The record is

562
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:22,000
doing very well in regards to reception. People that hear

563
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:25,119
it loved the record. People have been buying the CDs,

564
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,640
which is great. The show was fantastic, But in terms

565
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,960
of like the typical benchmarks that you're trying to reach

566
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,519
in audience growth and stuff like that, we're just not

567
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,759
there yet. Yeah, We're a long ways away from being

568
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,079
where we're at comfortably in growing our audience, and so

569
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,920
it seems like it would be detrimental of us to

570
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,200
move on from this record too fast when there's so

571
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:51,640
much substance there.

572
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that makes sense.

573
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,519
Speaker 9: We also went to a legit studio this time around

574
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:02,359
two oh before we were it was all in house

575
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,200
like doing all the engineering, mixing, mastering.

576
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 5: All that stuff.

577
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:10,039
Speaker 9: This time, due to you know, time and our mental

578
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,119
capacities with work and stuff like that, it just wasn't

579
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,440
gonna come out the way we wanted it to. So

580
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,160
we made the decision to bring in Mertz, who Cody

581
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,240
had previously worked with who's uh engineered down at the

582
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,559
Bridge in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and he was kind of like

583
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,559
the third member of the team to help us put

584
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:29,240
this one together.

585
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he absolutely crushed it, blew it out the

586
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:34,599
like hit it right out the park.

587
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,279
Speaker 4: Like.

588
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 5: The synergy between the three of us was fantastic.

589
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 9: Every time we were down in his studio, we recorded

590
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,880
the whole thing down there, and he was like a

591
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:45,799
huge part of this record.

592
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,559
Speaker 5: So sonically it's definitely like our best sounding record.

593
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:54,319
Speaker 7: Too, Okay, it really it allowed us to be like

594
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:58,200
it allowed us to operate as a duo as artists

595
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440
where doing meet being gate City. Even though we were

596
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960
a duo, he had to be the Rick Rubin and

597
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400
like run the boards and make sure that I was

598
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,680
doing what I needed to do. And and so this

599
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:11,480
time was like we both just got to be the

600
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,680
artists and have our vision be brought to life. And

601
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:17,200
so I'm glad that you brought that up because I

602
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,720
do think that that also like played a big part

603
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:20,400
in making.

604
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: This step what it was. Yeah, the upbraid for sure.

605
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a huge and that's and it's supposed to

606
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
you know, it's like this is part of a greater story.

607
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,920
And so you know, from Meet Me and Gate City,

608
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,200
it was a lot of getting to know us, getting

609
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:36,519
to know how to operate with each other, and us

610
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,559
getting to know who our audience was now because this

611
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,640
music was quite a bit different than my solo music

612
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:47,400
and now with Giant Steps, it's exactly that. Like we

613
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,480
were willing to challenge ourselves, we were willing to challenge

614
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,319
the listeners, We were willing to challenge the status quo.

615
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:56,480
We were willing to step outside of all of our

616
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,839
comfort zones and just make a record that we felt

617
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000
was like a strong body of work. And I'm happy

618
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:03,920
to like stand on that for a long time.

619
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 6: Yea, was that a difficult decision to to because you

620
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,480
had done the previous tracks?

621
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:10,759
Speaker 5: Yes?

622
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: And yeah, yeah we tried. Frankly, like we we we

623
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,880
took a couple of different attempts at doing so. We

624
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480
were gonna do EP three before the new album we

625
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,640
had so that we did Pound of Flesh. Then we

626
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,680
did Renaissance Park, and we have one more that we

627
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:29,640
already have written, and so we went to record that

628
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:33,000
and we just we just weren't feeling it. There was

629
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,000
just something, And that's when I think he started to

630
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:39,039
realize he was getting burnt from the engineering, the mixing,

631
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,720
the mastering, all that stuff, and it.

632
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 9: Was juggling family with work and at the studio till

633
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,279
two am and then waking up and going to work

634
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:50,519
and doing the same thing, and.

635
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:51,039
Speaker 6: It's a lot.

636
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot. And we have been doing

637
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:54,559
that for like three years straight.

638
00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 7: So yeah, you don't get that same off filming, right right, Yeah,

639
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,039
you don't get that same fulfillment when it feels like

640
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:04,400
work all the time.

641
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's what it was definitely becoming the field.

642
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,079
Speaker 9: It was starting to feel like work and that's the

643
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,920
complete opposite artist, right right.

644
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 7: But it was also like a blessing in disguise because

645
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,199
the songs for EP three, while we love them, by

646
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,440
the time we kind of figured out that we wanted

647
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,679
to like go back into the studio setting, those songs

648
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,280
wouldn't have worked for the time period that they would

649
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000
have been done. You know, there was just a sonic

650
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:34,199
appeal to having them in like the springtime. They just

651
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,840
have that kind of energy. And we didn't start recording

652
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,119
until the beginning of summer, so by the time we

653
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,039
were done, it was going to be late summer fall,

654
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,639
and we would have just been putting out songs just

655
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,719
to put something out and just to keep up with

656
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,639
the joneses, And instead we have this body of work

657
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,079
that just like everything made sense and it was like

658
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,559
it just really reminded us of like we can't always

659
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,400
dictate the timelines. We just have to make the art

660
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,360
in the art going to tell us not to be

661
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,079
like you know, but like the art is really going

662
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,039
to set the terms of like what we can do.

663
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,360
Like nothing we say matters until we have a body

664
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,079
of work in our hands and then we can you know,

665
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,480
get to the starting line.

666
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. By the way,

667
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:19,320
you mentioned so you do you've done most of the

668
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,000
artwork for the artist who released through All Lound. Yeah,

669
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,920
is there is there any kind of a like, do

670
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,800
you have a specific style that you apply to The

671
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,400
reason I'm curious is in the past, it probably isn't

672
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,559
really a thing anymore, but I just remember like back

673
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,679
in the nineties or in the two thousands, like No

674
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,840
Limit Records, you know, there was a very.

675
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 7: Specific style pixel.

676
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 8: Yeah.

677
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm curious if if, like, do you have a

678
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,119
specific style that you try to use.

679
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 7: Or I don't. The only thing I guess I would

680
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:55,440
really say about my style is that I am in

681
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:59,400
I'm not like a traditionally trained graphic designer. I don't

682
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,039
have any sort of like art background or anything. I

683
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,239
learned how to use photoshop purely because I wanted to

684
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,519
be a guy starting a record label, and so the

685
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,760
root of my like artistic style is very photo heavy.

686
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:16,880
So I love when somebody can either give me a

687
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
photo or give me a reference or something, and that

688
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,559
is typically like my canvas, and I can like creatively

689
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,719
build from there, and like I'm I'm learning how to

690
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,519
do other stuff. But I would say that through the

691
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:33,599
fifteen releases that we've put out that I've done covers for,

692
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,159
they're very like photo centric, where it's about a certain

693
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:41,920
like character or a certain idea and then I'll just

694
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,199
kind of design around that idea.

695
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

696
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, Robert, Yeah, he's the one who basically took all

697
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,639
the pictures of us, yeah for the for the last

698
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,920
ep in this album.

699
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,559
Speaker 6: Oh okay, Yeah, he was.

700
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,199
Speaker 9: Just the the artist in him, Like he was literally

701
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,880
laying down almost like head in traffic to get that

702
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:06,760
perfect angle.

703
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. He's one of a kind, awesome.

704
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's actually based here in Manchester. His name is

705
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,920
Robert Bates okay, and you can so you can find

706
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,159
his Robert Bates Photography and on Instagram. He goes by

707
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,559
Domino Sonata. But he's also like a very he's a

708
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:27,000
very into cinema, like local cinema and film and film

709
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,119
history and stuff like that too, So you.

710
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,559
Speaker 9: Could totally feel it when you're like when you see

711
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,079
his photos. Really, he's incredible, man, And I think what

712
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,840
Nick did? Beat me in Gay City? So okay, Nix

713
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:40,840
is girlfriend?

714
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, So we have a lot of like close

715
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360
people in our network that shoot photos and then I

716
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,800
just like, am fortunate enough to take those to manipulate them.

717
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 6: Oh that's cool? Yeah, yeah, very cool. Uh you guys

718
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,800
want to play another one?

719
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:54,159
Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah? What do we go?

720
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: Dying to hear more?

721
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 8: Here?

722
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 6: If you're just showing us, we have Cody Pope and

723
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,159
Byron g here with us a live and suit.

724
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 7: And leant do exit more. Yeah, it's a funny one,

725
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:19,480
all right, you're watching at home. You can snap with

726
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:37,559
us elevated to the gallows like a miles in France,

727
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,599
life be hitting differently do miles of dance might have

728
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,199
a thousand yards stare of of a mile and trance

729
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,079
life can be so short you're running miles and pants

730
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,000
don't care for people but a smile because why not

731
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,719
this life the only one that I know that I got.

732
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,760
All this third eye jazz got me feeling like Cyclops

733
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,840
every year for a little closer to the feeling like

734
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,719
my pops, frustrated with my nation, probably for different reasons

735
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360
of posing opinions on opposition, committing treason. I'm from where

736
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,320
you got to embrace multiple seasons. One day it's spring,

737
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239
one day you've taken the leaves and still jump hurdles.

738
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,599
But I got these long legs for ramp up my

739
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,119
pro team. What I eat all these eggs for. I

740
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,280
grew up between exit one and exit for, But even

741
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
as a youth, I knew I had to exit more.

742
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 5: A little short one.

743
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 6: That is a short one.

744
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 9: Well yeah, there's a lot of those little kind of

745
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,239
like interlowers between each, a lot of the tracks on

746
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,599
this one.

747
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, No, I like it though. One day it's spring,

748
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,280
next day or taking the leaves, then that is true,

749
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,199
That is our weather tends to go up. Yes, yes,

750
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,599
we have Cody Pope and Byron's here with us alive

751
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,159
in studio and uh sounding great, are you guys playing

752
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:49,039
out Lutrey? Are you doing a lot of live shows?

753
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 7: They so it was I would say, this was probably

754
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,280
our slowest year we did. We did a run in

755
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,880
March when we put out Renaissance Park. We were real lucky.

756
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:00,679
We got to go out with a already the rugged

757
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Man for a night. We did some nights in Vermont,

758
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,480
came here you're with the first stop. That was the well,

759
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,599
that's the show. That's okay, going back to before we

760
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,679
were on air, that's we were here for Renaissance Park,

761
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,880
and that was the show that the computer crashed. Yes,

762
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,880
because we played let It Grow for the first time.

763
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's part of that that same night.

764
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,519
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, wow.

765
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 7: But after that run of shows, it was pretty quiet.

766
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:34,519
For the most part. We did something, you know, something

767
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:35,079
here or there.

768
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 5: A lot of life stuff was going on.

769
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we we started working on well, so we

770
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:47,480
started EP three basically in like so, Renaissance Park came

771
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:50,599
out in March, and by like the end of April

772
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:54,519
we were already jumping into EP three, and then by

773
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,880
like the end of May we realized everything just like

774
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,719
wasn't working. And by the end of June we were

775
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,000
already down at the Bridge working on the new album. Okay,

776
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,039
So it was just one of those things that like,

777
00:41:07,159 --> 00:41:10,119
and then we spent so much time doing the album

778
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,519
and we didn't want to. We knew what we wanted

779
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,880
to do for the release show, and we knew if

780
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,639
we did too many shows beforehand that that would kind

781
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:22,079
of like spoil or saturate it. So once we started

782
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,480
working on the album, we made like a very like

783
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,920
conscious effort to be like, look, we're gonna not perform

784
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:31,199
until this show. We want people to really like, this

785
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,480
is the next time they experience us is going to

786
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,000
be hearing these songs in a room that we booked

787
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,079
with our sound ore lighting, our caterers that we brought

788
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,679
like just like a show the way that we think

789
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,000
it makes the most sense, and like, I think it

790
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,440
was one of the best decisions we made because the

791
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,639
event turned out like really memorable.

792
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,079
Speaker 6: Excellent, excellent. By the way, what was our a the

793
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:57,719
rugged man like he seems like an intense dude, Like.

794
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's very tense. Yeah, we we didn't get to

795
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:06,039
meet him. I I've opened I think I've opened for

796
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,760
him like three or four times and I've literally never

797
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,400
met him. So oh really that's just how rappers.

798
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:16,119
Speaker 6: Are, though, Yeah, he I I I heard I heard

799
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:19,960
an interesting story about him. Do you guys know daver So?

800
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 7: I don't know him personally, but I feel like we

801
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,960
The name sounds familiar and I'm pretty sure we played

802
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,639
a show like years and years ago in the past,

803
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,760
if I'm not mistaken.

804
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah he he opened for Uh.

805
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 7: I bet you that was probably I bet you I

806
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,760
might have been on that show too, okaybe maybe that's

807
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,679
where I know him from.

808
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: Yeah he he. He told me an interesting story which

809
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,679
I won't I won't repeat.

810
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: But I never want to be as loud as a

811
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:51,639
live sound engineer. Man. I felt bad for that night.

812
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,519
Speaker 6: Really why I did the engineer take some verbal and

813
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:56,079
yeah he did?

814
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 9: And uh you know, I mean if you're an art

815
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,559
like as around for you know, over two decades.

816
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's like there's a there's a level of expectation.

817
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta if you're gonna you know, oh yeah, yeah,

818
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:10,719
do anything with them, which is you know, he earned that.

819
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 6: So if you guys ever seen the mouthdown he had

820
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,599
with Tim Poole on his podcast.

821
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 7: That sounds wild.

822
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 6: Oh it's great. Yeah yeah, if you go on YouTube

823
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,519
and just hide in Tim pool all right, the recommend

824
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:21,360
I'm sure it comes right out.

825
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,679
Speaker 5: I got to check that out.

826
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta get a little angry with Tim Poole.

827
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:28,159
It was just like, I'm not that guy. You don't

828
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,719
want to go there with me. I can't even do

829
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,559
an impression of it. It's it's really really good, but

830
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,880
I'm really angry with it. Was awesome, It's fantastic.

831
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,559
Speaker 7: I can just like picture that in my head.

832
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,159
Speaker 6: Yes, it's really good. Now who else?

833
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 8: Now?

834
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,039
Speaker 6: Is there any is there anyone else coming up in

835
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:51,960
the short term who you're releasing through?

836
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 8: Uh?

837
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:03,119
Speaker 7: In sometime this spring, we are hoping to release so Biza. Yeah, yeah,

838
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,400
really yeah. Business just dropped a Merry Christmas beat tape

839
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,719
which is on all streaming platforms, so everybody should go

840
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,679
listen to that. But when we initially obviously Bizza has

841
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,920
always been a part of our movement, but when we

842
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,960
like made a formal offer to be like, hey, we

843
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,320
want to have a record of yours come out on

844
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,440
the label, he put out what what I kind of

845
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:29,199
consider like his magnum opus is an album he did

846
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,519
a few years ago. It's called Bobby's boombapp recitle. Okay,

847
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,840
it's like his producer composition album, and he basically hired

848
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,320
and picked and curated all of the like vocal features

849
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,159
on the record and produced it and put them all

850
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,480
together and it's it's a phenomenal album. It just has

851
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,320
acrobatic mister Lyft, Crime Apple, my favorite rapper Cody Pope

852
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,760
is on there. Tons of people are on There's There's

853
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,079
just Time and lep who don't even really perform anymore.

854
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,840
So it's probably one of the last recordings that they did. Yeah,

855
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,280
there's just these phenomenal verses on there. But much like

856
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480
a lot of us as artists, because they didn't have

857
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:15,199
a budget behind him to do some grand release. He

858
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,400
didn't have money to do a physical release, you know,

859
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,920
there wasn't He was doing it all himself, you know,

860
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,679
and he puts so much into making it that it

861
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,639
didn't even get like a huge digital distribution. Okay, So

862
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,840
one of the things that we wanted to do first

863
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,800
was give that record like a really grand release. And

864
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,199
over the years we've been trying to like put a

865
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:42,639
CD package together that really like is special and put

866
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:46,039
some video content around it. So this Spring really is

867
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,679
hopefully going to be the Bobby's Boom back recital Spring,

868
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,199
as well as some more stuff from us.

869
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, business incredible. Yeah, I haven't interviewed him and

870
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,599
a really I gotta get him on the show.

871
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's always got stuff going on.

872
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,519
Speaker 9: I went into the studio it was like two weeks

873
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:05,360
ago to and and ran into Biza there and what

874
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:07,079
he was doing that night, I actually got it.

875
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 5: I had was like taking videos and stuff.

876
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 9: Just the way he manipulates samples and audio is like

877
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:17,159
no one's doing it like him. He could literally you

878
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,719
can smack this wall and he'll make a full beat

879
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,039
out of it.

880
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,199
Speaker 5: Like, yes, he's on another level.

881
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 9: And I hope I think he'll get his flowers soon

882
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,400
where everybody really Yeah.

883
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 5: You know, I can see that he can just he's

884
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:33,159
he's the mad scientist for that's what I call it.

885
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,400
He just can anything any sound.

886
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 9: He's manipulating it in his way, and it's really incredible

887
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,639
to see when he's in his zone at the studio.

888
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,559
Speaker 7: You know.

889
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

890
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate to be biased because I'm obviously like

891
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,119
his friend, but I can't tell you enough, like as

892
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,159
a record label owner and obviously like Bizza is an artist,

893
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,840
so I'm not saying that he's not challenging in his

894
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,440
own right. But but Bizza is he's the type of

895
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:03,960
artist you want to work with as a label owner

896
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,840
because he's doing things that he was going to do,

897
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:11,880
even if you were sorry that he's doing things that

898
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,840
he was gonna do, even if you weren't in the picture.

899
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,079
And that's what you want, is you want an art

900
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,440
of You want an artist that's motivated enough to do

901
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,480
it themselves, so that when you come in and partner

902
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:25,840
with them, you're just adding fuel to something that was

903
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,119
already there. If you just know a great artist but

904
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:32,320
they're not driven to do it on their own, you're

905
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,880
like pulling teeth sometimes because it's like they clearly didn't

906
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,679
want it if if you if they weren't already doing it,

907
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,159
you know. And so with Bizy, you almost have to

908
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,039
chase him sometimes because he's so motivated that's he's dropping

909
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:47,960
stuff constantly, and you got to kind and so that's

910
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,360
why it's like we have a unique friendship and relationship

911
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,159
with him because it's like he was doing this before

912
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,440
either of us anyways. So it's like you got to

913
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,000
give him room to do his thing and let him

914
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,760
breathe creatively. But we just feel fortunate that like he

915
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,679
still like wants to partner with us and do stuff

916
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,280
with us as well, because we like to find those

917
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,400
little gems every now and then and be like, here's

918
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,920
how we can help bring that into the world.

919
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 6: Right, right, Have you ever I mean obviously I don't

920
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,000
expect you to mention any names, but have you guys

921
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,840
ever run into a situation where you work with somebody

922
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,760
who maybe.

923
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 7: Just doesn't absolutely yea, yep, yeah, I guess for you know,

924
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:31,880
not too many, fortunately, but I would say we've had

925
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,440
we've had one release that didn't work out, and in total,

926
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,639
we've maybe worked with three artists that it just wasn't

927
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,199
the right kind of relationship yea. But fortunately, we only

928
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,079
ever really were in one situation where an artists record

929
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:52,599
came out and it just didn't really work out. And

930
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,239
uh yeah, you know, like those things are tough in

931
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,719
the moment, and for us being so early in the label,

932
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,159
I think it definitely felt like, ah, like what did

933
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,159
we do wrong? Like what you know? But as time

934
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,880
went on, like we realized like we did the best

935
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,400
we could yea, and it just like everything's not going

936
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,599
to always work out. And I like to say that

937
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:22,079
hell Hound is for anyone, but Hellhound isn't for everyone, right,

938
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,239
you know, Like we are so open to what kind

939
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,880
of music, what kind of art, the kind of people

940
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,280
we work with, Like we really just we have a

941
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,079
wide scope and a love of art, but we also

942
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,239
have a certain framework within which we like to do things,

943
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,880
and we have a certain aesthetic and a certain rawness

944
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,880
and vulnerability and honesty and work ethic and that's not

945
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,639
for everybody, and so it's not you know, goes back

946
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:49,519
to like what I was saying earlier, is like we

947
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,320
can't hold other artists to the way that we do things.

948
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,039
We do what works best for us. And if there's

949
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,400
other people that we love their art, we just have

950
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,960
to kind of act to meet to what's going to

951
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,760
work for them to be the most genuine.

952
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly not. And you could tell, you could

953
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,000
tell when.

954
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 9: You know, the passions not fully there right as well,

955
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:14,920
you know, and it kind of sucks the air out

956
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,079
of the room. So yeah, you kind of learn real

957
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,360
quick when you get into a couple of sessions with somebody,

958
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:26,159
you know, kind of the first or second day, we're like,

959
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,280
it's either going to be way too much work in

960
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,880
us pushing, right, and if they're not in that creative

961
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,280
space or if they're you know, not fully committed, then

962
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:42,519
it's I'm we're not going to push you to like

963
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:44,920
get there, like you got to have that, like it's

964
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,400
just an artist in general or musician or whatever, like, yeah,

965
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,199
you got to have the passion or else it's not

966
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:50,760
gonna work.

967
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, exactly. We have time. You guys want to

968
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,840
play one more or star right.

969
00:50:59,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 5: The last one?

970
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:01,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess we should.

971
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:01,159
Speaker 4: So.

972
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,519
Speaker 7: This is the title track from Giant Steps in Gates City,

973
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,840
which is affectionately called Giant Steps.

974
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:09,039
Speaker 6: Okay, Cody Pope and Byron g.

975
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 7: My lace is tight enough for all my giant steps.

976
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,360
Now easy get every day to wait say I'm the best.

977
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:31,400
Now life be like some big beautiful breasts now over

978
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,880
a windy day when all the sun dresses out. Even

979
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,360
when stressed out, stop and taking nothing ahead of this

980
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,519
life and understand why you love it it. No one

981
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:44,199
can do what you do. That's why the gluff won't fit.

982
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,960
Keep working hard towards your dreams. You'll make so much

983
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:50,800
of it. These maverick thns take training more than saying words.

984
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,079
Sometimes you're on the path alone that's evading herds.

985
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 8: You lucky.

986
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,519
Speaker 7: If your lifeline it's exchanging verbs. There was a time

987
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:01,440
in my life I was exchange and hurt. Went from

988
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:04,320
thinking not be dead before the age of thirty to

989
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,880
making it with words and trying not to be too

990
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,360
worthy for every step back something to look forward to.

991
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,280
You've been working. Soon enough you'll be soreing too. These

992
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,800
giant steps come by learning how to box first LIFs

993
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,440
to fight. You might want to learn how to box first.

994
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Progress means getting up when you beat down, dedicated to

995
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:28,639
the baby's born beating down. These giant steps come by

996
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,719
learning how to walk first LIFs to fight, You might

997
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,440
want to learn how to box first. Progress means getting

998
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:39,280
up when you beat down, dedicated to the baby's born.

999
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,239
I meat clowns all the time. Most of them fade away.

1000
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:47,119
Not enough battery for all the games they play. Learn

1001
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,400
how to center stop, step on your own side. Don't

1002
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,159
let these cat with this people lead up your own time.

1003
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:56,119
You know you best, so find a pass of the rest.

1004
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,280
Understand it takes time. Try your by Riskin test, had

1005
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,400
many people tell me I was two heads strong. But

1006
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:05,960
when I do this, all those people will be dead.

1007
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,559
Wrong people not wrong for offering ways to make the day,

1008
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,360
but everyone God preferences how to make the stake. There

1009
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,239
will be times when you know you got to walk alone.

1010
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,559
Let the power of your actions be the message shown.

1011
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Plenty of your thrones. Don't worry about what the kings say.

1012
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:26,760
You play lifelike shredding guitar like in way. How much

1013
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,519
can you do before the end credits play? All depends

1014
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:33,119
on how much you let get in the way. These

1015
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,639
giant steps come by learning how to walk first life

1016
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,360
to fight, you might want to learn how to box first.

1017
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Progress means getting up when you beat damn. Dedicated to

1018
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:47,559
the babies born feet Dawn. These giant steps come by

1019
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:50,599
learning how to walk first life to fight, you might

1020
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:54,400
want to learn how to box first progress means getting

1021
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:55,679
up when you beat damn.

1022
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Dedicated to the babies born feet damn.

1023
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 6: Pre Well done, guys, Thank you man, well done.

1024
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 7: Well, Thank you for having us.

1025
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 6: Cody Pope and Byron g here with us live in studio.

1026
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,679
What should our listeners know about? Where to find you

1027
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,679
guys online to keep up with everything that you're doing.

1028
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,039
Speaker 7: So everything in our universe can always be found at

1029
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:26,360
Hellhound Publishing dot com. We're really active on YouTube right now.

1030
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,400
So we have a Hellhound Publishing YouTube channel. We would

1031
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,800
love for people to go over there and hit the

1032
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,199
all subscribe button. We're putting out music, we're putting out

1033
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:38,000
behind the scenes videos. We had our documentary. It's going

1034
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:38,719
to be out Monday.

1035
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm very very curious to see that, thank you.

1036
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 7: Yeah. So it's my first like big video editing project.

1037
00:54:44,519 --> 00:54:48,440
It's like a forty minute documentary just about our whole journey.

1038
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 5: Cool.

1039
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 9: I saw it yesterday for the first time. Really yeah,

1040
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,960
blown away? Yeah, oh very cool.

1041
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1042
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 7: So yeah, everything Hellhound Publishing dot com, Hellhound Publishing on YouTube.

1043
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,880
If you're on social media, I'm at Cody Pope hc

1044
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:06,239
across everything. He's at BG six ZH three across everything,

1045
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,840
and at hell Hound Publishing of course too. But hell

1046
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,719
Hound till we're underground, all right.

1047
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,199
Speaker 6: I love it.

1048
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 5: I love it.

1049
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:16,119
Speaker 6: Anything we didn't talk about that, you want to make

1050
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:18,480
sure our listeners know about anything we didn't mention you

1051
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:21,360
guys always got a going on. I make sure we

1052
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,239
didn't leave anything out.

1053
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 7: No, So we're, like we mentioned earlier, we're in. This

1054
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,039
is our kind of weekend wrap up for us. This

1055
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,079
was the first thing we have going on, so thank

1056
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,039
you so much for having us. Yeah, tomorrow night, Sunday,

1057
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,360
we're going to be at the shaf Skiine for Rap Night.

1058
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,119
It's gonna be our last show of the year, kind

1059
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,880
of a holiday wrap up show. And then Monday is

1060
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,000
the premiere of the documentary. And other than that, I

1061
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,480
would just say that our new album, Giant Steps in

1062
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:47,639
Gate City is available anywhere that you listen to music,

1063
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,840
please take an opportunity to listen to it. That's all

1064
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,679
we could ask is for people to just take the

1065
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,719
time to listen to it. It's eighteen songs and if

1066
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,559
you don't like it, hopefully you'll have a better day after.

1067
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:02,960
I think you will.

1068
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,679
Speaker 6: Very good, Very good guys, Thank you so much, and

1069
00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:09,719
thank you everyone who joined us today. Of course we

1070
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,719
had Neon Gipsy in the first hour, second hour, we

1071
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,760
had the healer Mike McDowell. After the show, I'm going

1072
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,480
to be headed over to the Manchester Masonic Temple for

1073
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:21,239
the holiday market and psychic event being put on by

1074
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,599
our wonderful friends at the Sister Witch Company, and that

1075
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,119
goes to five pm. Jenny is already there getting set up,

1076
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,280
or she's probably all set up by now and please

1077
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:35,400
come see us shop local. It is so very important

1078
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,480
And if you missed any part of today's show, it'll

1079
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,679
be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot

1080
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,320
org and my website Matt Connorton dot com and Cody

1081
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,599
Pope and Byron g Thank you guys again so much.

1082
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:46,519
Speaker 5: Thanks for having us.

1083
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, absolutely, and Merry Christmas everybody. If

1084
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,360
anyone's wondering, yes, we will be here next week, we are.

1085
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:55,760
We're just gonna keep going right through the holidays, so

1086
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,400
we will see you next Saturday, and we'll close out

1087
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:01,320
with We'll end today the way we started with the

1088
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,559
new from Kendra Erica, her rendition of it's beginning to

1089
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,880
look a lot like Christmas, which I suppose is appropriate

1090
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,280
locally here in Manchester because we have some snow that

1091
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:16,239
actually stuck more like ice. But whatever, but a couple

1092
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,719
of times today, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's not not

1093
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,000
great like it was, just it was just enough snow

1094
00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:24,960
to be a nuisance. But uh yeah, we'll wrap up

1095
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,599
with this and uh that's it for me for now.

1096
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:28,320
We'll talk to you a little bit later, everybody.

1097
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 8: It's beginning to look like Chris smile.

1098
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: Everywhere you go. Take a look at the five and ten.

1099
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:14,599
Speaker 8: It's glistening once again with candy hans and silver lanes.

1100
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: They're globe It's beginning to look alive like Christmas.

1101
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:29,239
Speaker 8: Tis on every store, But the prettiest sign to see

1102
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,599
is the holly than the move on your own road.

1103
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,639
Speaker 1: It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

1104
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: Everywhere you go.

1105
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:11,679
Speaker 8: There's a tree in the Grand Hotel, one in the

1106
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:12,599
park as well.

1107
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,639
Speaker 1: It's a curdy kind that doesn't mind the snow. It's

1108
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:22,039
beginning to look alive like Christmas.

1109
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 8: So the bells will start, and the thing that'll make

1110
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,679
them ring.

1111
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: Is the Carol Bet your son right, the thing your home.

1112
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:46,960
It's beginning to look alive like Christmas. Ties A Lorystal

