1 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:39,240 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,119 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragging It. 4 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,320 But first, I do want to encourage you, if you're 5 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:49,280 enjoying the podcast, to please follow us using your favorite 6 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,560 podcast software. And today's program is brought you in part 7 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 by financial support of our listeners. You can support the 8 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,679 show on a one time basis app to box thirteen 9 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:04,319 at Great Detectives dot net, and I want to like 10 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,079 Christopher for sending along a donation. 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Your job pick him up. 22 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the 23 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,719 next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 24 00:02:21,159 --> 00:02:23,280 you will travel step by step on the side of 25 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:26,919 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence, 26 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:31,360 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 27 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,280 the story of your police force in action. 28 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: Was Wednesday, November eight was windy in Los Angeles. We're 29 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,280 working the day watch out of Juvenile Division. My partner's aid, 30 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,879 Jacob's the boss's captain Stein. 31 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:48,879 Speaker 5: My name is Friday. Was eleven oh five am when 32 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:49,280 we got to. 33 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 4: The basement floor of Gorman High School, the locker room. 34 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,719 Speaker 6: Which way, Steve, I want to show us which locker's yours. 35 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 7: You still haven't told me what this is all about. 36 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Routine checks on Yeah, but why do you have to 37 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,919 pick on me? Why do you have to see my locker? 38 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 5: We're not picking on you, Steve. Now, how about it? 39 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Which locker is yours? 40 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,439 Speaker 7: Right here? 41 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 8: This is mine? 42 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 7: Three eighteen. Here's the key, No you open it, Steve. 43 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,319 Just a couple of personal things of mine. That's all 44 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:25,120 all right. I'll open it. Well, there you are see 45 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:27,479 for yourself. Want to take your things out of the locker? 46 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,479 Cent you can see what's in there? Cancher, my gym stuff. 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,439 A couple of textbooks. 48 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:33,439 Speaker 6: How about digging back in the corner left hand side 49 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:35,840 there where where? I mean? Come on, Steve, dig them 50 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:37,400 out back here? 51 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 7: You mean he's joke books? 52 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,319 Speaker 5: That's right. Let's have a look. 53 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 7: Huh why just a couple of joke books? Kid gave 54 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:43,520 him to me? 55 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,439 Speaker 5: Bring them out, Steve. 56 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,639 Speaker 7: Okay, just a couple of them. Kid came to me there. 57 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 6: Looks like more than a couple. 58 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: That's what you call a joke book, Steve. 59 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,479 Speaker 7: That's what the kids call him. Yeah, some of them 60 00:03:57,479 --> 00:03:59,360 are a little dirty. That's so bad though. 61 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 5: They're filthy Steve. And you know I know what you 62 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,479 get them. 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 7: I told you kid gave him to him. 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 6: Oh what's his name? 65 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,439 Speaker 7: Some kid around school I don't remember right. 66 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 6: Now, gave you these books for nothing. 67 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:09,879 Speaker 7: Sure, I had a couple he wanted. We traded off 68 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,879 a lot of the kids, haven't they trade him around? 69 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: That stack you got there? They looked pretty new. Couldn't 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,400 have been passed around much? 71 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 7: Maybe not, I don't know, matter of. 72 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: Fact, they look brand new, don't think, don't even look 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,680 like they've been open yet. 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,759 Speaker 7: How come you're rousing me on this thing? What about 75 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,279 the other kids? 76 00:04:22,319 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 5: They got them too, they're buying them, Steve, They're not 77 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:24,680 selling them. 78 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,879 Speaker 7: I'm not selling them. Anybody says that's a liar. 79 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 6: No good. 80 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 9: So we talked to the fellows here at the high school. 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,959 Some kids are over the junior high school too. They 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,279 all say you're the one who's selling them. 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: They're liars, both the fellas in high school and the 84 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:36,519 kids down the street in junior high. They say, you've 85 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:39,079 been selling this stuff for months, now about it. 86 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 7: They're lying, that's all. They don't know what they're talking about. 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 9: You've been selling these thirty five cents a piece, three 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,600 for a dollar last couple of weeks. You've been peddling 89 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:49,399 pictures to a dollar piece. You got any of them 90 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:49,879 in your locker? 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,199 Speaker 6: Steve? 92 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,519 Speaker 7: A couple I got them off another kid? 93 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 8: What other kid? 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 5: What's his name? What's his name? 95 00:04:57,439 --> 00:04:58,959 Speaker 7: Some kid? I don't remember. 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 5: It's not much of an answer. 97 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:01,199 Speaker 7: What do you want from me? 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: Anyway? 99 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:04,399 Speaker 7: I told you I'm not selling the books. I don't 100 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:07,160 care what those other groops say. It's my work against theirs. 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,319 Speaker 6: And maybe you ought to get this straight. Son. 102 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:10,319 Speaker 9: We're not out to get you your way down the line. 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,839 We want the people at the top, the men who 104 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:13,959 print this junk, the wholesalers, the big distributors. 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 7: So why ask me? I don't know anything about it. Nothing. 106 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 6: You don't want to cooperate is anything? 107 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 7: What am I supposed to cooperate about. I'm not mixed 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,279 up in anything. 109 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 5: We think you are a son, We know you are. 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,160 Who you selling this for? What do you get your supply? 111 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:26,399 Speaker 10: Oh? 112 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, see, that's what's in my locker. I ain't selling 113 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,279 I don't have any supply. You got to go far 114 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:32,000 to prove I have. 115 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 5: Not very far? Steve what from about here to your home? 116 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,079 Speaker 4: Eleven thirty eight am, after picking up his supply of 117 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,920 obscene books and photographs to be booked later as evidence 118 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:45,720 ed and I drove the subject Stephen Banner to his home, 119 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:49,480 approximately a mile from the high school. His apprehension and 120 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 our theory that he probably kept the bulk of his 121 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,040 supply of books and pictures that are near his home 122 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,519 was no accident. For weeks, we'd known that a steady 123 00:05:57,519 --> 00:05:59,759 stream of pornography was being fed into a half a 124 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:05,040 dozen in high schools and junior high schools throughout the city. Books, photographs, pictures, 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,759 and pamphlets of the worst kind. Because of embarrassment on 126 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,279 the part of the curious teenage kids who bought this stuff, 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,519 it wasn't easy to pick up. 128 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:13,199 Speaker 5: A solid lead. 129 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: After weeks of observation and questioning, we finally narrowed down 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,319 the principal source of supply to a single teenage boy, 131 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,079 Stephen Banner. Even then, we knew he must be only 132 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:26,519 one of one hundred small time distributors working for the 133 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:30,560 persons directly responsible for manufacturing this sort of thing. Our 134 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,600 only hope was that he'd be willing and able to 135 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,759 supply us with the names of the persons responsible. When 136 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:38,000 we got to Stephen Banner's home, where he lived with 137 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 his sister and brother in law, we searched it thoroughly, 138 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 but we found nothing. Both his sister and brother in 139 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,319 law were at work. We went back and started checking 140 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,000 through the garage at the rear of the house. 141 00:06:50,199 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 6: Joe back in a conic. Yeah, have a look, Steve, 142 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,879 want to tell us about this? 143 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:03,519 Speaker 9: Yeah, these books here, these pictures, case foot of them. 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, well about it? Son, Your sister and brother in 145 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:08,759 law know about. 146 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,279 Speaker 7: This, No, they don't know anything. I didn't think you'd 147 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:11,639 find him. 148 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: Are you ready to tell us about it? 149 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 7: My sister going to have to find out. 150 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. This team's going to be pretty hard 151 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,439 to keep it from her. 152 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:18,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess. 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 6: So who's a contact? Son? Where'd they come from? 154 00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:25,879 Speaker 7: Charlie, Charlie Freiberg Only the books, though pictures came from 155 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:27,959 another guy. It's a long story. 156 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:29,959 Speaker 6: We got the time son, who is this fird? 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 7: Met him downtown one Sunday Penny Archide on Broadway. Me 158 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,079 and this other kid were in there. Bud Spencer Friburg 159 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,160 came up, started to talk to us, all right, go on. 160 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,439 He finally took a couple of these books out of 161 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:43,560 his pocket, came him to us. He wanted to know 162 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,600 what we thought of him. Old us he had plenty 163 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,199 of them, if we knew any of the other kids 164 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:47,839 who wanted him. 165 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 6: He knew you and your friend Bud were in high school. 166 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. 167 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,839 Speaker 5: What else, Steve? 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 7: That's about it? Yes, me and but if we wanted 169 00:07:54,519 --> 00:07:55,720 to sell for them around school. 170 00:07:55,959 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 6: His friend here is Bud Spencer. He's selling them too. 171 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, he goes to a different school. Though we both 172 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,279 of us did pretty good with the books sold real fast. 173 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:04,759 The pictures were even better. 174 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,199 Speaker 4: So you say you didn't get the pictures from Friburg, 175 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,199 there was somebody. 176 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:10,839 Speaker 7: Else, man by the name of Jack, you don't know 177 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:13,920 his last name. Friberg put us onto him, gave us 178 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,600 an introduction, set up the deal. We got the pictures 179 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,759 for seventy five cents. Most of the time they got 180 00:08:18,839 --> 00:08:21,000 us a dollar, dollar and a half apiece button. I 181 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,680 did pretty good. 182 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:25,519 Speaker 4: You know, any other fellows working for this Freiburg Steve 183 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,959 and the other kids in school and. 184 00:08:27,079 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 7: No just butting me, that's all I know. It wouldn't 185 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,679 be so bad if it was just the books. Lousy Charlie, 186 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,879 you had to go and promote the party routine. Get 187 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:36,919 everybody mixed up in that. 188 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,799 Speaker 6: What do you mean, what's it all about, Charlie. 189 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,759 Speaker 7: He stays at this place out on Sepalvita. It's a motel. 190 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,080 That's where we always contacted him. Yeah, after a couple 191 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,480 of weeks when we got to know him, he asked 192 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:48,840 me and but out to this place, said he was 193 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:50,919 going to throw a party, told us to bring our 194 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,720 girlfriends along. Turned out we were the only ones at 195 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,120 the party, Me and Bud and the girls and Charlie Freiberg. 196 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:00,720 Party lasted pretty late. I should have smart enough to 197 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,120 figure it out. I wasn't. 198 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 5: What do you mean, Steve, figure out? 199 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 11: What? 200 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 7: Why Charlie be throwing parties just for us? The first 201 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 two times there wasn't anything wrong. We just talk danced 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,759 with the girls, drank some beer. Charlie told us to 203 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:15,639 have a good time. He threw a party every Friday night. 204 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Never broke up till after three o'clock. 205 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: Old your girl friend Jr's. 206 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 7: And Buds seventeen. They were both seventeen. They've been around though. 207 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:24,639 No use kidding you. They weren't very smart. I can 208 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,559 tell you that none of us were. I guess. Next 209 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,720 couple of parties, Charlie had whiskey there. Them girls drank 210 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:31,519 right along with him. 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: So did we cribe break served the whiskey? 212 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 12: Did he? 213 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. He noted the drinks, kept handing the 214 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,960 girls a lot of stuff about how I used to 215 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,960 be a director in pictures. He had a lot of 216 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,240 connections in Hollywood. The last party I was at, he 217 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,120 said he was going to get the girl's screen test 218 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,600 a lot of malarchy like that? 219 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 5: What else Steve? 220 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,919 Speaker 7: I don't know. I had a beef with Charlie about 221 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:52,720 it and I walked out. I haven't been back since. 222 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 6: He still throw these Friday night parties, do you know? 223 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know, remember three or four after the 224 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:02,240 last one I walked out on. Think Charlie's just great? God, 225 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:03,480 So I can't stand the guy. 226 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:05,759 Speaker 5: How about the party? She didn't show up for Steve 227 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:06,840 and get a run down him. 228 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,759 Speaker 7: I heard a couple of things. Yeah, sure, glad, I 229 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,320 wasn't there. 230 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 231 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: Dumb girls never fails, the oldest line in the world. 232 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,159 They still go for it. 233 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:16,799 Speaker 5: What's that? 234 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:18,639 Speaker 7: Tell him? You're going to get him in the movies? 235 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:26,279 Speaker 4: We continued questioning the subjects seventeen year old Stephen Banner. 236 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,240 He gave us a full description of the man who 237 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,000 had been selling him the books, Charles Freiberg, and also 238 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:33,039 a description of the man known as Jack, the one 239 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:36,320 who had been supplying him with pictures and photographs. In addition, 240 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,519 he gave us the addresses of the two men, a 241 00:10:38,519 --> 00:10:41,960 fair description of Freiburg's car no license number, and the 242 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:44,080 names and addresses of the two girls. He and his 243 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,919 friend had taken to Freiburg's parties. 244 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: One PM. 245 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: ED and I took the case of obscene books from 246 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,639 the garage loaded in the backseat of our car, and 247 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,159 Stephen Banner directed us to the high school attended by 248 00:10:55,159 --> 00:10:58,840 his friend Bud Spencer. We picked up the Spencer boy 249 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:00,799 and drove him and bannered down on Town to Georgia 250 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:03,039 Street Juvenile, where we booked them in on seven hundred 251 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:08,440 B Welfare and Institution Code lack of supervision. We drove 252 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,519 to the motel out on Supulvita, but the suspect, Charles Freiberg, 253 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,720 had moved out five days before, no forwarding address. 254 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,759 Speaker 5: It wasn't a dead end though. From his motel. 255 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,039 Speaker 4: Registration card we got the description and license number of 256 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:23,080 his car. On the way into the office, we checked 257 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,639 out the address of his confederate, the man known as Jack. 258 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,639 He'd moved the same day as Freiburg. No forwarding address. 259 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Back at the office, DMV got a make on the 260 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:35,279 license number for us the car registered in Freiburg's name 261 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,399 two thirty nine West ninety second Street. We went down 262 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,840 to R and I and pulled the package on the 263 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:46,519 suspect three forty pm. 264 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:49,159 Speaker 6: Last address on was three years old. How's his record read? 265 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 5: Well, he's been in the business before. 266 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: A couple of bag charges, three to eleven charges to 267 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,799 possession obscene literature, served. 268 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,039 Speaker 6: Eight months in Kylie jail. Mug shot there, Yeah, here 269 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:01,279 close enough. 270 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,759 Speaker 4: The way the boy described him, I'd say, so, there's 271 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,159 m two Huh, same pitch. The last time they got 272 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,159 him working in the high school trade passed himself off 273 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:10,639 as a studio man, movie director. 274 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,639 Speaker 6: How about the other man, Jack? You had anything there 275 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:13,360 that chat? 276 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,879 Speaker 4: I gave the information on him to the stats. I 277 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,960 was they're going to make a run for us. Well, 278 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 I guess we better check on the kid's girlfriends. Huh, 279 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,919 get their stories? 280 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I suppose so. 281 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:26,399 Speaker 9: It sure gets me, Joe, what's that very young girls 282 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 like that out at motel parties with three am drinking? 283 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, seventeen year old. No reason for it, no reason 284 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:31,919 at all. 285 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: I think a one that might do their parents. 286 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:41,639 Speaker 4: We checked out the suspect's address, furnished this by DMV 287 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:43,240 and also the information from the. 288 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: R and I package They went nowhere. 289 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: We had a second interview with Steven Banner and his 290 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,639 friend Bud Spencer. We showed them Freiburg's mugshot and both 291 00:12:51,639 --> 00:12:54,039 of them identified it. We got out a broadcast and 292 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,279 an apb on him. Four to twelve am. Together with 293 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,960 policewoman Doreen statesl Ed and I drove out to the interne. 294 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,919 The two teenage girls involved a Dorothy Ryan and a 295 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,039 Laura Osburn. We stopped at the home of the Osbourne 296 00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:08,519 girl first, but she wasn't there, and neither were her parents. 297 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,080 An older sister told us that both the mother and 298 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,360 father were working and that Laura was at a neighborhood 299 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,639 school for models, taking her weekly lesson. We checked at 300 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:19,440 the modeling school, a converted second floor social hall, where 301 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,639 we finally located the girl, a tall brunette, dark eyes, 302 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,120 fair complexion. The heavy makeup didn't do much to hide 303 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:29,519 her age. While a modeling lesson went on, Policewoman statesill 304 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,480 ed and I talked to the girl off in one 305 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,320 corner of the hall. 306 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,279 Speaker 13: Your friend Steve Banner, he took you to those parties 307 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:39,440 at mister Friburg's placed. U. Huh, that's right, very nice man. 308 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,879 It was always nice to Dorothy and me. Dorothy Ryan, 309 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,399 she came to the parties with Bud. He's a friend 310 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:45,200 of Steve Banner's. 311 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,799 Speaker 4: You have no complaint to make about this, mister Friberg. 312 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:49,320 He never caused you trouble of any kind. 313 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,159 Speaker 13: Charlie will know. So I told you before that business 314 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,600 about Steve getting magic, because Charlie told us you'd get 315 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:57,039 us in the movies. What was silly, That's all, plain 316 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:00,200 and silly. Charlie was just helping us. How do you mean, Laura, Well, 317 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,879 he's in Hollywood, you know, Charlie Freiberg. He has lots 318 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:05,440 of connections. He just wanted to help us get some 319 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,120 good modeling job. That's why he took our pictures. There 320 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,399 was nothing wrong. You continued going to these Friday night 321 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:12,799 parties without the two boys, is that right? Yes, Dorothy 322 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:15,320 and me, there wasn't anything wrong with it. We know 323 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,759 Charlie as well as they did by that time. Few 324 00:14:17,799 --> 00:14:20,080 bathings the pictures, that's all. There was nothing wrong in that. 325 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,120 Do you ever see Prince of any of those pictures? 326 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,440 Either you or Dorothy rad No, But Charlie's going to 327 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,679 get us some he promised he would. 328 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,919 Speaker 5: You know where he is now? 329 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 13: No, he moved having any idea where he is. 330 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 9: When's the last time you saw Freiburg, Miss, about ten 331 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:33,480 days two weeks ago. 332 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 13: What's this all about? Offs are you looking for Charlie? 333 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 5: How does he usually contact you, Laura? By phone? 334 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:42,399 Speaker 13: Yeah, usually calls. 335 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,799 Speaker 5: Has he called you lately? 336 00:14:44,679 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: Well? 337 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,759 Speaker 13: I don't know why are you looking for him? 338 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,879 Speaker 6: Can't you tell me routine investigation? 339 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,879 Speaker 5: Miss? 340 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:50,639 Speaker 7: Oh? 341 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I don't know where Charlie is. Why can't you. 342 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: Tell me why you want him? 343 00:14:55,559 --> 00:14:56,159 Speaker 5: We want him? 344 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 13: Why can't you give me a reason? 345 00:14:58,519 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: This is one of the reasons, Laura. 346 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,759 Speaker 7: Look at this picture. 347 00:15:02,679 --> 00:15:03,399 Speaker 13: Charlie took this. 348 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: It's his business, Laura. That's the way his police record reads. 349 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:07,279 Speaker 13: I can't believe it. 350 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: That's one reason we want Friburg. There's lots of others. 351 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:10,840 You're willing to help us, Laura. 352 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 13: He said they'd be beautiful glamours. 353 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 12: They're not. 354 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: You know where he stays now? 355 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,399 Speaker 13: No, I'll find out though. 356 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 357 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:19,039 Speaker 13: I've got a date with him, supposed to meet him 358 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,639 out on Wilster, Wilsher and Librea. When's at eight o'clock 359 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:28,240 tomorrow night? 360 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police 361 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,519 force and action. 362 00:15:45,519 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: November eighth, Wednesday, five point thirty pm After our interview 363 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:52,840 with seventeen year old Laura Osborne, policewoman Doreen States, Aled 364 00:15:52,879 --> 00:15:55,720 and I drove to the home of Laura's girlfriend, Dorothy Ryan, 365 00:15:55,919 --> 00:15:58,360 who was also present at the motel parties given by 366 00:15:58,399 --> 00:15:59,840 the suspect, Charles Freiberg. 367 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: Her story of what. 368 00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: Had happened was essentially the same as the one we 369 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,559 got from the Osbourne girl. That night, we met with 370 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,759 the parents of both girls. They were well meaning and cooperative. 371 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,559 They admitted their mistake was the same old story of 372 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,279 lack of supervision. 373 00:16:13,679 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: And very little home life. 374 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:17,679 Speaker 4: The parents told us that they had no idea of 375 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 what had been going on or the late hours that 376 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,559 their teenage girls had been keeping. Besides promising closer supervision 377 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,360 of the girls, they told us they would notify us 378 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,559 immediately if the suspect Freiburg made any attempt to contact 379 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,039 their daughters. Six twenty five p m. We got back 380 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,039 to the office, put in a call to Stephen Banner's 381 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,039 home and notified his sister and brother in law that 382 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,120 the boy was being held for further interrogation. 383 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,399 Speaker 5: We also notified the parents of Bud Spencer. 384 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: The following morning, Ed and I went across the Street 385 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:47,759 to the District Attorney's office, presented our case and a 386 00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:50,279 warrant was issued on Charles Freiburg for seven o two 387 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,480 wic contributing to the delinquency of a miner. At seven 388 00:16:54,519 --> 00:16:56,720 o'clock that night, Ed and I staked out on a 389 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,799 cocktail lounge near the intersection of Wilshire and Lobrea, the 390 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,159 place where a suspect that told Laura Osborn to meet 391 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,440 him seven thirty seven forty five. 392 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 5: We waited. 393 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,599 Speaker 9: I think maybe we're in business. Joe down the corner 394 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,160 there waiting with the signal to change dog suit. 395 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,759 Speaker 6: Dog hat. Yeah, could be across and over now heading 396 00:17:17,759 --> 00:17:18,119 for the bar. 397 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: All right, let's go. 398 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:27,839 Speaker 6: M No mistaken, Hey, fellow, pull it up on the 399 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,960 William how's. 400 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 5: That police officer? Is your name Friburg? 401 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 8: No, that's not my name, it's your identification. 402 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:34,759 Speaker 6: Please. 403 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,799 Speaker 8: Yes, I've got my identification. Why can we see it? 404 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:38,079 Speaker 5: Please? 405 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:41,599 Speaker 8: Why what do you want your identification? Before? I haven't 406 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,160 done anything. 407 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 6: Let's call mister talk about a downtown. 408 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:47,559 Speaker 8: Wait a minute, just a minute. I don't want any trouble. 409 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:54,880 I'll show you. Yeah, driver's license. Rest of my stuff, 410 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,759 Charles Friburg. It's an old addressident. Yeah, I haven't had 411 00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:01,799 time to change it. Just got back town. Which the matter? Anyway? 412 00:18:01,799 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 6: Where you stay in Freiburg? 413 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,319 Speaker 8: No place. I just got back in town. I told 414 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,240 you that. Not staying any place yet, no connections at all. 415 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,799 Where's your car? I don't have one. I've had one 416 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:13,559 for a year. I sold it. Look how about filling 417 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:14,559 me in? What do you want with me? 418 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 5: You want to step over here Freiburg by. 419 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,319 Speaker 8: The way, all right, just like to know what's going on, 420 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,079 and so I'd. 421 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 9: Like to see what you're carrying in your pockets. Take 422 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:23,440 ere with theing out, please, one pocket at a time. 423 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 8: What is this a shakedown? You can start with your 424 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:30,319 coat pockets, all right. 425 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:30,799 Speaker 6: There? 426 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 8: Okay, all right now. 427 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,079 Speaker 6: The other one. 428 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:40,759 Speaker 8: Okay. We said you don't have a car Freburgh, of 429 00:18:40,759 --> 00:18:41,960 course not I told you that. 430 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:43,839 Speaker 5: But what are you doing with that parking ticket? 431 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: We walked the suspect Freiburg two blocks to the parking 432 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,519 lot listed on the clean check that he had in 433 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,680 his coat pocket. He had black hair streaked with gray. 434 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:58,480 Looked to be in his mid fifties. We questioned him 435 00:18:58,519 --> 00:19:01,200 on the way, but he'd admit nothing. We located his 436 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:03,359 car in the parking lot and searched it. In the 437 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,599 glove compartment, Besides a half a dozen photographs and small books, 438 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:08,759 we found a key with a metal disk attached to it. 439 00:19:09,319 --> 00:19:11,759 Stamped on the disc were the words west Side Studios 440 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,319 number twenty three. 441 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,599 Speaker 5: Freiberg refused to identify the key. He refused to admit 442 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,279 a thing. We walked him back to our car, and. 443 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,039 Speaker 4: Together the three of us headed out for the old 444 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,799 west Side Studios, just off Jefferson Boulevard. On the way, 445 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:27,559 we tried again to question the suspect, but we got nowhere. 446 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,839 He refused to answer even the simplest questions. One look 447 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 at the west Side Studios, kne knew right away the 448 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,119 place had seen better days. It had been fairly prominent 449 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,119 in the early days of motion picture making, but all 450 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,400 that was left now was two square blocks of broken 451 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,759 down scenery, one dilapidated sound stage, and a row of 452 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:47,799 weather beaten cottages, the tar paper peeling off the roofs. 453 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,119 We got out of the car and started up the walk. 454 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,079 The faded sign over the main gate read west Side 455 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:57,359 Studios founded nineteen twenty and down in one corner admissioned 456 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,000 by pass only the guard shack at the gate was 457 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,200 boarded up, no sign of a night watchman. 458 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,759 Speaker 5: We kept walking. 459 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 6: How come I don't keep a watchman at the gate 460 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,680 for Iberg. Don't they make pictures here anymore? You bet 461 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:10,960 they do. 462 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 8: Place has been going downhill for a long time, coming 463 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,440 back though? 464 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: Then? 465 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,799 Speaker 5: You do know the place? 466 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:17,319 Speaker 6: Is that right? 467 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 8: Yeah? I know it? I should know it. 468 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,319 Speaker 6: What do you mean by that? 469 00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 8: Nothing? 470 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 5: You rent an office here? 471 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 6: Is that it? Friburg? 472 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? That's right straight down the way there, Collage twenty three. 473 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: What's your job doing some kind of movie work? 474 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,519 Speaker 8: Yeah? I've been for thirty years, more than thirty years. 475 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 6: That's so you an actor? 476 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 8: Friburg. Haven't you ever heard the name? I'm a producer? 477 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 11: Oh? 478 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 5: I see, why don't you tell us that? To start with? 479 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 8: I want to know different reasons. I don't like to 480 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,519 throw my weight around. I have a lot of connections 481 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:50,160 in Hollywood, you know that's so in the trade thirty years, Albert, 482 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,960 one of the first. You can make a lot of 483 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,920 friends for thirty years. 484 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess so. How about those books we've found 485 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:56,960 in your car? Those pictures? How explain them? 486 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 8: This studio will be back on the speak of the year. 487 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:02,039 I'll bet a thousand dollars on it, this whole block 488 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:04,359 here sound stages. I got the plans for him in 489 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,759 my desk. 490 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 5: So do you have an interest in this lot? 491 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,559 Speaker 8: Not exactly, not right now anyway, I did have an interest, though, 492 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:13,640 I will again I was one of the original owners. 493 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:13,839 You know. 494 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: Still haven't got an explanation. 495 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: How about the books and pictures we found in your car? 496 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,319 Speaker 8: Oh? That nothing to explain? Is there just a few 497 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,240 gimmes I picked up? 498 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: You know a boy the name of Stephen Banner. 499 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 8: Banner, No, I don't think so. 500 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,599 Speaker 6: Why how about Bud Spencer? You know him? 501 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 11: No? 502 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,519 Speaker 8: I knew what George Spencer wants. Actor. I was back 503 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:33,119 in the old days. 504 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: So how about Laura Osborn, Dorothy Ryan? 505 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 5: You know them? 506 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 8: No, it's pretty hard to say, you know, sergeant. Over 507 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,079 the years, in this business especially, you meet an awful 508 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:42,599 lot of people. 509 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 5: Well these are fairly recent. You ought to remember them. 510 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,200 They're just kids, seventeen. 511 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,279 Speaker 8: Year olds, No afraid, I don't recall the names. Town 512 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,839 stage Bell. They got a company over there doing some 513 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:58,839 shooting tonight television films. They make them too fast. Trade's 514 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,079 not like it used to be. Quality. That's what we 515 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,200 went after gone. Now it's all gone. West Side will 516 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,839 do it again, though. You can bet on that we're 517 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:07,359 coming back. 518 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 6: Look, how about leveling Friedburg. You know why we picked 519 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,640 you up? You know why we're out here. 520 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,039 Speaker 8: I just did. I don't know why. 521 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 12: Oose. 522 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 8: Look across the road that's set over there, the old 523 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,359 greenhouse there, colonial mansion, Weather's Fate of the Colors, a 524 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,920 little typical old Southern mistake. Now you know, we shot 525 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,880 some beautiful footage there. Pictures are classic in its own right. 526 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:31,319 Maybe you remember it Moonlight Magnolia's but changed the title later, 527 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Loved and the Moonlight beautiful thing? 528 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:35,839 Speaker 5: You ever see it? No, I don't think so. 529 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 8: I couldn't tell you how many beauties we turned out 530 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,880 that year. I was a young fellow. Then Song and Stripe, 531 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,480 Moonlight Magnolia's Little Orphan Girl, Sweetheart at the campus at your. 532 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: Cutt examinter Friberg. What's that just down away there? Number 533 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,519 twenty three? 534 00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:56,039 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, completely forgot about it. I hope you'll excuse 535 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,000 the way it looks. I have been able to find 536 00:22:58,039 --> 00:22:59,799 a good accommodations in town. I've been saying it. 537 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:00,319 Speaker 5: The office. 538 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,759 Speaker 8: We have a little couch there I sleep on that. 539 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:05,920 We have a hot plate too good enough to boil 540 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:06,720 the coffee in the morning. 541 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 4: How come you couldn't find space in town? The hotel's 542 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,279 a pet USh are they? 543 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 8: I'm the one time used to be staying at Guas. 544 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,839 I just soon camp here at the studio and stay 545 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,440 at one of those places downtown. Jay, would you like 546 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,799 to see the rest of the lot. Pretty interesting if 547 00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:22,599 you've never seen a real movie lot, I mean a 548 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,279 high class one. 549 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: We've seen him, mister Friber. We'd like to check your office. 550 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:29,839 Speaker 8: Oh all right, this is it, cotty. You need a 551 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:32,240 good coat of paint. Of course, it'll all be done 552 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:34,119 pretty soon. West Side is going to come back strong. 553 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,000 You can bet on that, guess so, oh watch it 554 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:41,359 on that first step there, it's loose. Have to call 555 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,920 maintenance and get that fixed. Yeah, it's all right, man. 556 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:58,960 Here we are well. Didn't you see the opposite? And 557 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,559 very much? 558 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: What if you want a gentlemen, you want to check 559 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:03,799 that cabinet there? Ed, I don't take a look through 560 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:12,480 these cases over now. Okay, this picture here on the wall. 561 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,480 That's the cast and the production staff on my first film. 562 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,599 Here's the other one. Me and Harsey Bernard he autographed 563 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,680 the picture for me, Bernard himself. Those were the days, 564 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,400 all right. Quality, that's what we went after. And the pictures, 565 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,440 real quality, not like to day gone, the good days, 566 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:45,920 fine pictures. It's gone, oh gone. How about at Freiburg, 567 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,279 these chases of books here in these photographs. 568 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,079 Speaker 8: Not my fault, Believe me. I had to make a living. 569 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,720 I had to make money. How do you think it 570 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,920 feels to get cheap like that? I used to be young, 571 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:01,839 I was big, I was talent, big pictures. How do 572 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,720 you think it feels to get cheap all of a sudden, 573 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,559 cheap enough to do this kind of thing. 574 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,559 Speaker 5: Nobody forced It was your choice, mister. 575 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,519 Speaker 8: It wasn't my choice. You're wrong. All I want to 576 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,440 do is make pictures. There isn't a chance anymore, not 577 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,240 like the old days. You eat hundreds of thousands, millions, 578 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,480 it's gone, it's all gone. I had to eat. I 579 00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:25,839 had to put clothes on my back. 580 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 6: You admit you're responsible for this books pictures. You're working 581 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,799 in the high school trade kids like Steve Banner Bud Spencer. 582 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 8: After nineteen thirty five, I couldn't get a job. I 583 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,960 didn't want this. I had to do it. I'm ashamed. 584 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,440 Who wouldn't be. I had to eat. It was the 585 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,880 only way, and I had to live. 586 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: There's honest jobs to be had. How about this man 587 00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:49,000 named Jack, He was. 588 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,079 Speaker 8: In with me. He was my cameraman back in the 589 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,720 old days. You can't blame him either. He had to 590 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:54,200 live too. 591 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 6: He wanted to come downtown with us. He give us 592 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:59,000 a statement, yes, all, all right? 593 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 8: Anything? 594 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 5: How about the parties, the two girls, Laura Osborne, Dorothy Ryan. 595 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,799 Speaker 8: I took some pictures at you all. I didn't harm 596 00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:08,400 them nothing anyway, he added, Ron Freiburg. 597 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,839 Speaker 5: You know that. 598 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know. But just to have the kids there, 599 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:15,319 it made you remember the days in your life, best 600 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,880 days in anybody's life. That's so when he used to 601 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,119 have money, when he used to be young. 602 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names 603 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,680 were changed to protect the innocent. 604 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,839 Speaker 12: On January twenty ninth, trial was held in Superior Court, 605 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,640 Department eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State 606 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240 of California. In a moment the results of that trial, 607 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,640 the suspects, Charles Zieman Freiberg and his accompliced Jack L. 608 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,880 Lavery were tried and convicted on four counts of contributing 609 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,119 to the delinquency of miners. Both of them served full 610 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,480 terms in the county jail. Contributing to the delinquency of 611 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,079 miners is punishable by a fine if not more than 612 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,440 one thousand dollars, or by imprisonment in the county jail 613 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:25,759 for one year, or by both fine and imprisonment. You 614 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,000 have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from 615 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,559 official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief 616 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,160 of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department. Heard 617 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,200 tonight were Barney Phillips, Virginia Gregg, and Ralph Moody. Script 618 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,920 by Jim Moser, music by Walter Schumann, Hell Gibney speaking. 619 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 5: Now It's Counterspy on NBC. 620 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You know, there are some people who imagine 621 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:09,079 that in the past we were tougher on crime as 622 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,319 a general rule, and we've gotten softer. The truth is 623 00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:18,200 usually quite a bit more complicated, as you will see 624 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,359 that there are some crimes we have gotten more strict 625 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,119 on enforcing and others we've let up on. And this 626 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,000 is a good example. A year in the county jail 627 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,240 and a thousand dollars fine if you did what mister 628 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:39,759 Freiberg did and you're caught. Today you are looking at 629 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:46,160 multiple felon accounts, sensual federal prosecution, and a law more 630 00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:51,920 and just listening to the accounts of what he did, 631 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,920 and in particular the one girl they talked to to me, 632 00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,319 I'm like, this is not this should not be a 633 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,039 mistaket And the TV version of this has even more 634 00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:09,799 issues in that regards. But that was the state of 635 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:13,920 affairs back then. Well, now we turn to listener comments 636 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,759 and feedback, and we go to our listener survey and 637 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,559 Peter in Franklin, Massachusetts comments I've been listening more or 638 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,079 less daily since I discovered this podcast in twenty twenty. 639 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Few things have captured my attention as long as Old 640 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,960 time radio has. I guess you could say that I'm 641 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:35,799 hooked and Joe and Dixon Missouri Wright's great show. And 642 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440 now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 643 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:43,519 and I want to thank Jeffrey, Patreon supporter since July 644 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,920 of twenty twenty three, currently supporting the podcast at the 645 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,720 shawmus level of four dollars or more per month. Thanks 646 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:53,160 so much for your support, Jeffrey, and that will do 647 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440 it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow 648 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,559 us using your favorite podcast software, and sure to rate 649 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:04,200 and review the podcast wherever you download it from. We 650 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,880 will be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet. 651 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,880 But join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny, 652 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,119 it all or where George here? 653 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 11: So? 654 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 10: What happened? George? The cops haul him off and throw 655 00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:20,240 him into the clink, Durrango? Who else, Johnny? 656 00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 11: This man is unbelievable. It's fantastic. 657 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:23,119 Speaker 6: Huh. 658 00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 11: I don't know how he worked at how much it 659 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,319 cost him? And of course, as always, he game here 660 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400 loaded with money thousands Johnny. 661 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, but the. 662 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:33,039 Speaker 11: Police didn't even take those six guns away from him. 663 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,519 Speaker 10: Brother, All the more reason why I'm getting out of here. 664 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,119 Speaker 11: Yes, Durrengo still thinks he's living in the old days 665 00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:39,400 of the wild and wooly West. 666 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,079 Speaker 10: What oh, you bet your life? 667 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 14: I am, and I'm putting all the costs of transportation 668 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,079 on expense account. Alla, was you who got me into 669 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:48,599 this whole thing? 670 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 11: Listen to me? 671 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 7: Where are you going? 672 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 10: What do you think? I tell you? 673 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 14: You're in co hoats with his wild old man this 674 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,160 trying to get me to marry his niece. So, Johnny, 675 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,160 if you and Carol love each other, so, what do 676 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,839 you think we want him to force us into it? 677 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:01,319 Speaker 11: Suppose we? 678 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 10: Yeah? Oh, come on, George, I'm in a hurry. George. 679 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,319 Speaker 11: Are you in your apartment? Johnny? 680 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 14: That's right, but not for any longer than Why do 681 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,720 you ask that you stay right there? 682 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Johnny? 683 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,799 Speaker 10: Dranggell you just stay right there. 684 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 11: I'm coming right over. I gotta talk to you, young 685 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,200 color and that ain't all. 686 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: Give me, Gunny hope you'll be with us then in 687 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,640 the meantime. Send your comments to Box thirteen at Great 688 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:35,759 Detectives dot net, follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, 689 00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:40,680 and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash 690 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:45,400 Great Detectives From Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam 691 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:46,880 Graham signing off.