Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Challenge podcast, all about the
Challenge as always.
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is the only one to put that one together. It
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is I here. Zach is not feeling well, So.
Speaker 4: You're gonna tell everybody Zach's not here because he's not
feeling well. But he didn't say shit about me being
gone last week. Not one of you mentioned that I
wasn't there last week. He just continued on.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you listened to the show.
Speaker 4: It was not even mentioned until like three quarters of
the way through, and Zach made some comment about Stove.
Speaker 3: You must have been super super bored on the plane
plane home to listen to us when you're not having
to like sit here and listen to us. I listened
every week. That's fun. Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we made a conscious effort during the pre show.
We were just like, hey, let's not mention the Carlin's
gone see if it makes sure.
Speaker 4: Man, Well, I am a little upset that Zach isn't
here this week because I really really wanted to tell
him that I realized last week was a Johnny heavier episode.
But Zach has got to pull his ass out of Johnny,
his head out of Johnny's ass, because oh my god,
it was like every thirty seconds Funny bananas.
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, well, now we this episode, we see
why we see Ian hates Johnny Bananas. Well, he did
actually need a favorite time.
Speaker 2: I needed to say Johnny dance.
Speaker 3: I stayed in You'll see it on the season. Okay,
spoiler alert, there was was.
Speaker 4: I did want to give Zach props for something as well.
I can't remember what it was. There was something that said.
Speaker 2: The stuff I want to complain about crystal clear memory,
the stuff I want to compliment him on I forget.
Speaker 4: Will come back to me later.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Zach, are you telling me you want to tell
us what this episode is about? Oh?
Speaker 3: Boy? Do I I can't wait to get into this one, guys,
just see you guys know, I have the shortest notes
that I've ever taken for this episode, so it's gonna
be a short episode or you guys just fill it in.
You know, this one's called.
Speaker 2: People Jump and People go through Bars.
Speaker 3: Yep, everyone survived, so it's all good. Uh. This one's
called trust in Your Era, Episode number seven. Hey, we
start off with a tech Money cameo. Guys who had
money on the Tech Money cameo this season? Karl, do
you care about tech Money?
Speaker 2: Joy represent Purial.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that he's from Peoria and I enjoyed
watching him back in the day and he was in
Ben Wilder Yeah Wilder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like he was he was like on
the verge of being a celebrity. He was like he
was close as close as these real world people come.
Jamie Chung, well yeah, I mean, yeah, come without actually
doing it.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, uh he got really close. Still
able to go back to the challenge, right, who do you.
Speaker 2: Think is the biggest star for either either the Mis
or Jamie Chung. I would vote the Miss probably.
Speaker 4: I think it depends on the circle that you run in.
For you guys, the Mizz, I think for most other
people it would be Jamie Chung.
Speaker 3: I think the Miz I think household names. The Miss
has got to win in terms of just like number
of people in America that can say it.
Speaker 4: Think it depends on the circles that you run in.
Not everybody gives.
Speaker 3: I don't think people know Jamie Chung. I don't think
they know that, like they might.
Speaker 4: Know the Miz. The only reason I know is because
of the challenge.
Speaker 3: But I know, Karl, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying
a cumulative amount of human beings in America more people
know the name of the Miz than know the name
Jamie Chung, Like for sure, for sure, right, well, you
have to agree with.
Speaker 2: This, I would definitely agree. He's in video games, he's
starred in WW produced movies because it was the thing
for a while.
Speaker 3: And his name is is his product. And Jamie Chung
is like she's always a supporting character. She's never the
you know, her name's not on posters.
Speaker 4: The guy was, but there was one of the guys
from an old from old challenges.
Speaker 3: Damn you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he was. Yeah, so he might be up
there too.
Speaker 3: He's up there. Yeah, there's a couple that are up
there's way up there, and yeah, was he ever on
the challenge? I think he's a champ. I think he
was on three or four seasons.
Speaker 4: The challenge is the only reason why I know THEO
he early early seasons.
Speaker 3: If you were like a young Maga guy, you'd know THEO.
Speaker 2: Van Ah Chris says, I agree. People may see her
in movies but not know her name. Everyone that watches
wrestling knows him by name.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and somebody says a guy that became a congressman. Yes,
Sean Duffy and his wife Rachel was also on the
Challenge and she's now as the Fox News person. Oh yeah,
so there you go. All right. So anyway, they're back
to the house now. Tina says that Era one is
still feeling very confident and very strong rewatching this. They shouldn't.
There you go.
Speaker 4: It is so delusional.
Speaker 3: We are going to keep coming back back and forth
to Corey. Pretty much every scene in this thing, we
keep coming back to Corey. But right now he's talking
about Nehemiah and says that really it's just him and Neemiah.
Corey can't rely on anybody else in this game. He
feels betrayed by having to be thrown in just now,
and blah blah blah, blah blah. Does Corey have a point?
Are we on Corey's side with this shit? Or how
do you guys feel about Corey?
Speaker 4: I can understand him being upset about being thrown in
every single time, especially when they seem to have talked
multiple times about volunteering themselves. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be the episode where I
have to call Devon out, yes, good along with what
he said he was going to do and uh vote
himself in and using the crutch of well, Michelle's not
going to say my name no matter what, She's not
going to say my name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I do, I do. It is annoying
that he didn't still just try to nominate himself. Even
though she wasn't gonna throw many, he could still have
like maybe saved face a little bit. I mean, granted,
this is something we talked about later on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get into that. Yeah, but I'm I'll be
with you Wolfe. I'll be talking about Devon for maybe
the first time ever. This is this is a bitch move.
This is shit anyway. So Rachel, this is where we
get Rachel talking to Niemiyah and I think Niamayah is
actually a little hurt and offended that Rachel put him
up as a target or whatever the phrase is. But
Rachel says like, hey, this doesn't have to be a
punishment because actually, if you win, like this is a
lot of power for you, and like let's just be
cool about it. Like Rachel's just very cool and calm,
and I think it puts I don't know, it seems
like it calms Niamaya Dom.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: How much are we loving Rachel this episode? Right? Rachel?
Isn't she great?
Speaker 2: She's good. Unfortunately she's on a ship team, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's on a ship team. She also I kind
of feel like she's starting to really do the tri
hard thing that Derek does. M I just I don't
know some of the ship that she does.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, hey, leader.
Speaker 2: She's trying to be like a pep talker and she's like, hey,
we're not going to talk about ourselves this way anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a note about that. Yeah, we'll get
to that. So that's the part you don't like Carlyn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it also might just be because she's
a personal trainer and that's what she does as a job,
and that's how she talks every day anyway, So it
may just be rubbing me the wrong way because watching
Derek dude is just super.
Speaker 3: I hate it when Derek does it. It seems more
sincere with her, and it seems like, I don't know,
the feeling from her is that like she doesn't want
to have to do this, Yeah, but they there sucks
so bad that she sort of feels like she has to.
I don't know, I just really I've always liked Rachel,
but I really liked her this episode. I just think
she really just was who that that team needed, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh, she definitely was.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, all right, So we get Bananas. Now, this
is when he talks about Ryan and how Ryan yep,
and this comes back. This is not the part where
they have a big blowout and ship. This is just
Banana's complaining.
Speaker 4: Johnny has been carried. But Johnny has made it through
so many seasons where he either hasn't had to see
an elimination once or does it super early on or sorry,
super late in the game when he gets to pick
who he goes against. I mean, like, he just Johnny
has been able to skate by so many times before,
and I know that, but if if Zach he's good
at the game.
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, well, my my Devil's advocate position does not
even rely on Bananas. It relies on me. And you
know what, you and I just talked about Wolfy with Devin,
Like Devon should have thrown himself in, you should stick.
You should set up a rotation and fucking go to
the rotation and do it. And if Devon should do it,
so should Ryan. And Bananas is not wrong here that
you should rely on a system of self nominating. And
if Ryan's not, then Ryan, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like they actually have had a conversation
about a self nominating thing. But I would say if
your team, if your team agrees with it, then yeah,
absolutely you should be doing it.
Speaker 3: But all right, Carl, and all I'm going to ask
from you then then, is that you be consistent. If
it's okay that Ryan avoids it, it's okay that Devin does.
Speaker 4: No, because it's it's different teams. Devn's team actively said, yes.
Speaker 3: My teams, we're just talking about like the sportsmanship of
throwing in versus not right of sort of team unity.
Speaker 4: No, but it doesn't matter. It's it's because they are
on different teams. The team doesn't absolutely matter.
Speaker 3: If it doesn't matter, then why is Ryan get a
pass for not throwing himself into Devon.
Speaker 4: Because team has not made the decision that they need
to self nominate and Devon's team has well.
Speaker 3: But if that, if Devon's not going to do it,
has the team or has the team minus Devin decided it?
Speaker 4: The way that it's being presented to us is that
the team including Devon has made this decision, whether it
actually was the team minus Devon.
Speaker 3: Not such, you need you need, you need both of
them to say, what if? What if Ryan and Devin
both said the same thing that like, oh, the team
all said they were gone to but I just I
didn't want to. I felt forced.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Ryan were doing the same thing that Devon
is doing, where the rest of the team has decided yet,
like or that it is being presented to us that
the team has made the decision that they are going
to self nominate and figure it out every week and
then Ryan doesn't do it, then yeah, absolutely it's a
bullshit move. But because Eric Eric two, yeah, Eric two
hasn't made that decision, or at least it hasn't been
presented to us that they have made that decision, then
he has no reason to self nominate. I guess I
don't know if Johnny on his team, so I don't
give a shit.
Speaker 3: Why would Bananas be bitching about it if there weren't
a decision made.
Speaker 4: To because Johnny bitches about everything because that is what
he does.
Speaker 2: Chris says Ryan and Derek are safe ninety percent of
the time. They did not agree when Banana suggested it.
Speaker 3: But did Devin agree?
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, we don't know, I don't.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: I think I think the ultimate point of this, whether
Ryan agreed to go in or not, is that of
all people to complain about someone skating by and not
have to go into elimination, Johnny is the last person
this should be complaining about shit, especially when it's like,
hey man, why would I want to go into elimination?
That's not how you play the game.
Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, the number of times that Bananas has said
that over the years, the number of times is just
like pot calling the kettle black.
Speaker 3: It is absolutely the POC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he really. It just it all boils down to
Johnny has pissed that he is not the one who
is safe because of all of his friends this year,
and the little gay boys that have always been perceived
as the weak links are the ones who are actually
safe this year because they are the ones who actually
have the numbers on their side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, this is not the first time
we've seen this. A lot of times the gay guys
have the women on the side, and you know when
women nominate the men and vice versa like this kind
of this is not the first time this dynamic has
come up.
Speaker 4: It's not the first time that we've seen it, but
it's the first time that we've seen I think it's
the first time we've seen it to this extent because
like we would see it with Tyler. But Tyler was
also pretty good at the game. He was a bigger guy.
He was able to hold his own And Ryan and
Derek have always been persued eve as like, honestly, Derek,
for me, one hundred percent thought that he was a
fluff fluff cast member until what was the last season
when he just blew all of my assumptions out of
the water.
Speaker 3: And he's doing well this season too.
Speaker 4: He is He's doing well this season. Ryan to me
is still a bit of a fluff character, but I
love him. This is I think the first season that
we've really seen these boys like not even not even
have their names close to being thrown in.
Speaker 2: And it's all part of the relationships, which we all
say is part of the game.
Speaker 4: And Johnny has benefited from that that relationship stuff for years.
That was why he got so mad at Sarah when
she told him that she was voting him in at
the last elimination, because he was trying to ride on
the relationship that he had with her and Jordan, he's
he has always ridden on the relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think though Jordan for me anyway the way
I look at it, and Jordan says it like much
late on the episode, but uh, he says, like, we
decide on this rotation because that's this is the way
you keep the team together because otherwise people are going
to be pissed and they're going to feel like it's unfair,
and so when it's your turn, you take your turn
and you go uh. And that just reminds me of
Battle of the Sexes like a million billion years ago,
when the Men did dominate that season, because they did
it from the very beginning. They said this is our strategy.
We're doing this, and they did it the whole season,
and the women's side was just chaos because they couldn't
do it. And I do think that this is part
of maintaining a good team. Like you volunteer, you get
at the rotation, you volunteer when it's your time.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent I'm not denying that. I'd I'm not
going against that. I one hundred percent agree with that.
They you from day one, they should have said, you
know what, we're setting up a rotation. Let's all agree
on that. Now this is going to like we can
write it down on a piece of paper so that
none of us have to worry about it, so that
we don't have to think about who's going in on
the next one. We'll just we'll pick it an immediately.
But it's just not how because each team could do
what they wanted to do. It's not how Eric two
has done anything. And so yeah, I mean, I agree
it is the smarter way to play.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Chris also brings up a good Chris bring
also brings up a good point that previously, when it
comes to voting, previously it has always been multiple.
Speaker 2: Women voting like when the women have to pick them
in it's always a group of women voting. In this situation,
they get like they get their own choice, like nobody
else helps them decide. So he points out that usually
a lot of when it's the group thing, a majority
of them will pressure other people into voting how they
want to vote. Yeah, this one, they get to make
their own decisions. There's no like pressure from anybody else.
It's just because you know, nobody even knows like who's
gonna end up being able to vote the eliminations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is different. And really there are some dudes
and Banana's mad actually be one of the dudes that's
actually in a really good position if you're not going
to do the rotation thing. I think a lot of
women wouldn't pick Bananas just because he's sort of has
these connections for a long time, and you know, blah
blah blah.
Speaker 2: It seems to be.
Speaker 3: But I think, is he nominated because of a rotation
that we don't know of, or maybe I need to
go back and see if he volunteered, or he's just he.
Speaker 4: Has not volunteered at all. That's not Johnny volunteering, Are
you kidding?
Speaker 3: So he's just pissed because he's because there's people that
are not being voted in and he.
Speaker 4: Is yes, well and on top of it, like if
I were, if I were these players, he would be
my vote every single time because to Zach's point, always
he's won seven times, right, Get him out of the
house as soon as you possibly can. That's I still
don't understand why they why that thought process seems to
go through their heads when they're nominating the targets, but
not when they are actually putting them into elimination.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Devon's point last last week, where
Johnny's like, well, come on, man, I know you want
me to go into elimination, and he's like, yeah, we
all want you to go into elimination. That's how the
game works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like your track record is not that great, dude,
in eliminations, we want you to go in there and
lose so then we don't have to worry about competing
against you in the actual final.
Speaker 3: Chris disagrees that it's beneficial to set up a rotation.
I think it's beneficial for the team, like team unity morale,
not not for the individual players. If that was not clear,
all right, Well, that's enough of that talk. We'll get
back to it. I'm sure we're on a Devon's birthday. Guys.
I don't know. I didn't give a shit about this,
but I did think it was weird that they called
this club Club Castle Kiddies with all k's. That seems
like a very poor choice that they should have thought
through and not called it that. Three k's. Oh yeah, bad, idea.
Speaker 4: Totally miss that, totally miss that.
Speaker 3: Oh man, wait, what were.
Speaker 4: Three k's Castle kitties.
Speaker 3: That's two club Castle kitties, Castle kitties the signed the sign.
The sign did not have the club, It only had
Castle kitties. But it was referred to as Club Castle Kitties.
And you got to assume another K. Who is going
to name it with a C club Castle Kids. Yeah?
Speaker 4: That I did not even go there with that.
Speaker 3: That's well, there you go. You know why, I know
that one of my favorite bands in high school was
three eleven and everybody thought it was a coded kika
K thing because the I guess K is the eleventh
letter of the alphabet, and then three three k's. Oh anyway,
so now I'm always very hyper aware.
Speaker 4: See, I immediately went to what is it? The fourteen
words three plus eleven is fourteen. It's the Nazi thing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not not familiar with that one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
The fourteen eighty eight is there? Fourteen eighty eight thing too,
because the my pillow guy.
Speaker 4: Just got fucking the hit H is the is the
eighth letter of the alphabet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the my pillow guy just put the pillows
on see for fourteen eighty eight, which is like a Nazo?
Did he really? I don't know. I read that online.
Is that a Nazi number? Fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because there's so the fourteen words is the Nazi I
don't know how why we were on this the fourteen
words like the Nazis have a there's a phrase and
I can't remember what it is anyway, that's fourteen words long.
And then eight is a big number in Nazi culture
because Hitler's Hitler starts with H and H is eight.
Oh yeah, I had listened too many podcasts about bad
Kyle Hitler.
Speaker 3: This gets bright whatever Hayle Hitler's eight eight If it's
h H, All right, well there we go. Put that
one together. And I just said it on the podcast.
If anybody wants susplice that little voice out of me
and fucking post that all over the place. You can
do that, don't say that you can do that. Yes,
please do that. Please.
Speaker 2: I'm sure when Riverside starts transcribing this episode, were begetting
an email afterwards.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to be flagged.
Speaker 4: So Challenge is being shut down because one of our
hosts decided.
Speaker 3: Carlin, it's Carlin, It's Carlin. All right, clearly, my boys,
we're still at Devin's birthday. We're not even the challenge yet.
To be fast it did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it looked like fun.
Speaker 3: I did like that. He said that, he the old man. No,
it looked like fun. Parts.
Speaker 2: Well, if we all showed up at your house today
re enacted this, you would have had a good time.
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 4: And by the way, if you thought all of your
friends were one not going to celebrate your birthday because
they're too tired, and two we're just going to go
to I don't know it.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, let me let me actually, let me just
say this, guys. I just want to say this. We
partied together all weekend in Chicago. I was the last
one out by like a long shot. I just want
just want to throw that out there. There was a
city by the big city, Big City, Chicago. By the way,
I was the last one out, That's all I'm gonna say. Actually,
we were right next to here, right next to our heir,
Pago Chicago, Illinois. Just saying out later than both of
you by a lot, by several hours. Actually know, I
just know. I just when you're talking about me and
being crotchedy and not doing fun ship, just want to
can be crouch And I'm just saying, Hey, I'm just
saying he just saying, I'm just saying that's all, just saying.
Speaker 2: It's only because Ryan was there, Like if it was you.
Speaker 3: Hey, just saying hey, just like hey, just saying yeah yeah.
But still guys, Ryan was there for do you do
you think Ryan want to hung out with you? Guys
to just saying you guys could have come out to
you're gonna throw it, but still IM gonna throw just saying,
which is like it's like a one up situation, all right,
Devin real quick. Devin says this is the first time
he's not playing with a girlfriend at home. He's able
to hook up on the challenge and maybe use that
hookup to advance this game. We're gonna see how that
plays out later. And with that, we're on the challenge.
Hmm cha Hey, we're gonna go up with this elevator. Yeah, well,
if we take your time, I'm gonna keep playing the room.
Speaker 2: You double buttons.
Speaker 4: They're glad you were able to tune in. Elle.
Speaker 3: Oh bye ill, I'm so energetic. That's right, Chris, thank
you for noticing this. These people are giving me shit,
and I just stand up for myself and defend myself
a little bit. These people are and I'm uh uh,
I'm half I'm half.
Speaker 4: There because he doesn't ever defend himself.
Speaker 3: That's right. These motherfuckers are fifty six stories up in
the air, guys, fifty six stories up on a helicopter plaid,
playing a game called Leap of Faith, which is a
stupid name. And I feel like we've played variations of
this game. You basically jump off a building and grab shit,
all right, we've seen things like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The big thing here is that there Era one only
has four players, so that means the other eras only
can jump four players. So these jumpers are drawn at random,
and so other than Era one, the other jumpers are Bananas, Neimaya,
Laurel Aviv, Devin, Jordan, Tory, Nyat, Josh, Jenny Theo, and Casey.
Everyone else selves the puzzles, with the exception of Tina,
who does both, yeah.
Speaker 4: Which I found weird that she was the only one
on her team who could do both.
Speaker 3: Like, it totally feels like they could have made this
more people.
Speaker 4: At least two people on all the other teams. I'm
kind of surprised that they didn't pick two people from
Era one. I found that very strange.
Speaker 3: It's super weird that they didn't have have Yes, two
people can jump, and then two people can solve the puzzle, Like, there's.
Speaker 4: No reason I understand having all four of them jump, sure,
I just it was weird to me that they only
had Tina solving the puzzle.
Speaker 3: Yes, they could have put other people in the puzzle
at least to like help, Like the other teams were
like have people yelling and shouting and standing around, and
Tina was just there by herself, which struck me as weird.
But otherwise, guys, I don't have a lot of notes
from this thing. I literally have five bullet points.
Speaker 2: Like the only thing we're talking about is Josh is
a fat piece of ship. Yeah, I met everybody have
trouble pulling them up.
Speaker 3: But THEO, like, THEO was on the other side of that.
That is the one that surprised me. Why couldn't THEO
get Josh's ass up there?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was eating too many meat balls.
Speaker 3: I don't know. THEO is heavier than Josh was like taller,
was huge, enormous, man.
Speaker 4: THEO was tall. I honestly, I don't think he's that
much taller than than Josh. But Josh is really and
I love that. That's the only notable thing for you.
The only like, the big notable thing for me was
the fact that Darrell actually jumped off the building. Yeah, mister,
I'm afraid of heights man, Like I have sat out
multiple challenges where I'm walking out on a building or
doing anything that has to do with heights that are
only thirty feet off the ground. And this is fifty
six stories.
Speaker 3: In the air.
Speaker 4: And he ran off that building.
Speaker 2: He told Derek his secret code phrase, which was, hey,
don't be a bitch, Carly. That was enough to give
him the courage to do it because even before they left,
before they left from the challenge, Durell tells Derek, Okay,
if it's a heights thing, just hey, I need you
to tell me, hey, stop being a bitch. And so
when they get up there, he's like, ah, fuck, you
see Derek go, hey, don't be a bitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I was very cred of Durell.
Speaker 3: I was very I was too, And I really think
that I think that what motivated Durell and putting you know,
this is just my own personal outlook on it. I
think it was because normally when we see him back
out of shit like this, he's the only one that
sort of is on the line, and this time he's
not only got his team, but he's got the Tina
who's nominated with. I think he just felt a lot
of responsibility that normally he doesn't have, and he just yeah,
he fucking just did it, like didn't didn't seem to
hesitate at all. Yeah, that was great. Avive was another
one that was like people didn't think she could do it.
She did a great job because she was super short,
four eleven.
Speaker 4: Apparently we have uh Naya is what's four eleven?
Speaker 3: Uh Aviv is oh Aviv is.
Speaker 4: Only four eleven. Oh, I thought she was five feet. Sorry,
you said that you were looking up. You said that
you were looking up the heights of THEO and Josh
and then you said four eleven, like, oh, I did
them or only four eleven?
Speaker 3: Well I did. I googled THEO and I the only
I have somebody on MTV Challenge subreddit who who knows
what this person knows? But this person says THEO is
only six ' five, which you know, only.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, I thought I thought THEO was six
and I think Josh is like six to two.
Speaker 3: I thought she was like THEO was like six eight, which, yes,
that's so my Yes, I'm back to being on your side.
I thought I thought Josh is like six foot and
THEO is like six eight. But if it's six two
and six five, yeah, that's we're probably.
Speaker 4: I mean, the only one who really fucks shit up
in this entire game is Tina, because she jumps off
and she grabs two flags when she's only supposed to
grab one, which means that her team has a five
minute penalty, and then when she's putting the puzzle together,
she completely forgets to grab one of the pieces and
is looking at the at the judges like these don't
fit together.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Tina, So who would have aced that puzzle? CT?
Speaker 3: This is true CT.
Speaker 4: Pain in the asked to try and pull up from
the bottom.
Speaker 3: CT.
Speaker 4: I think it might have been a good thing that
he has already gone home for their team, because there
was a fifty to fifty shot that he was going
to be going down on that on that line or.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna break? He's gonna break that apparatus.
Speaker 2: CT pro tip before you jump off ailing.
Speaker 3: All right, well with that, guys, uh, Era four is
actually the loser kind of shockingly surprisingly trying too. It's
just like Era one looked so sad and Derek up
there hobbling with the ship with the pieces and stuff
like aarone looked pathetic.
Speaker 4: They did, but they could be able to pull everybody
back up pretty quickly. And not only not only was
Era four the loser, but Aer four was the loser
when Era one had a five minute penalty. Yeah, like,
how much does Josh way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must have been a lot, all right? Well
with that? Straight up?
Speaker 4: Not ready for that that or like THEO has no
muscle whatsoever, He.
Speaker 3: Looks muscle like. He just looks like a huge dude. Anyway, whatever,
he looks bulky to me, maybe I'm just like seeing
him wrong. He looks like muscular.
Speaker 4: He does not look bulky. He has muscles. He has muscles.
He does not look bulky.
Speaker 2: And that more, he has more of a runner's body
than yeah, like muscular body.
Speaker 3: I feel like you guys are not picturing him right.
Speaker 2: So he's very muscular, but his his like the muscles
are very lean, lean, whereas Josh is more is more
of a mass situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Josh has those popcorn muscles.
Speaker 3: So like he is he is, he's lean. You're kind
of like a lean. That guy's a monster.
Speaker 2: He's lean.
Speaker 4: Because but I don't see him as bulky.
Speaker 3: That guy is extremely muscular. If you're standing next to
that guy, he'd be like, this guy is huge.
Speaker 4: For anyone wondering. We're looking at the at theo's instagram
and it's.
Speaker 3: His like, what's his weight? Look up? Look up his weight.
That dude's six ' five. He's got to be forty.
It's gotta be all right. Well, the winners are Era three,
uh and we learned from this on it's Nia's a
second challenge whenever of her whole challenge career I had
no idea she was that shitty of a player, but
apparently she is. Do you have a weight yet, Carlin?
Speaker 4: No, No, not gonna be able to find that. He's
not gonna have posted anywhere.
Speaker 3: He's a Olympian. It's gotta be somewhere.
Speaker 4: We're back at in like ten years ago.
Speaker 3: Look it up. Look at his weight then, but it
was still a lot. Uh. We're back at the house,
got cha. Well, no we're not. It's club night, actually,
God damn it. So Olivia tells Naya that she wants THEO.
Speaking of THEO, she likes him big and bulky as
THEO is. And that's all I got there. And you
guys are just shutting down because I'm saying Theo's bulky.
Speaker 2: We'll just swear over it.
Speaker 3: Move along, all right, Durrell, Jordan, Neamiah and Corey. They're
chatting playing pool. This is the this is the room
I'd be in. But they don't say anything of any
importance at all. No nothing, U, Tina and Michelle talk.
Speaker 4: You don't say anything of importance that I noted? And then, oh,
did you guys have anything about that? No, didn't say
anything of importance.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hang out in that room. That
seemed like the cool room to be in the bar.
That's where I would be, the one where nothing is
happening and people just seem to be getting Alongso be
at home in bed. I was out way later than
both of you fucking assholes, just like three weeks ago,
So how dare you? They talked about Michelle's brother. He
was in a accident. He has brain damage. They like
watching Michelle do shit. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I feel like I was supposed to care.
I don't know. I thought about pretending like I cared
about this, but then I can't bring myself to do it.
On the podcast, I don't care means nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 3: This is when we get the Corey and Devin situation, though,
where I think Corey is right. I'm on Corey's side entirely,
which pains me to say because I love Devon. Cory's
is very calm. He's like, Devin, it's your turn, you
should do it, and Devin says, I don't think she's
gonna say my name, and Corey says, well, maybe you
could try anyway, and Jordan says, yeah, you probably should,
and Devin just isn't gonna do it. I think we're
all you agree with Corey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin absolutely should because they because they had a
prior arrangement that this is going to be how things
were going to go. Even even if Michelle is the
one that is going to go down there and Michelle
is going to be the one who ends up picking
the person, even if that's what's gonna happen, he still
should have said as fuck name at least put it
out there. It would have saved face with his team.
Speaker 2: At the very least go up to Michelle and be like, hey,
I'm going to volunteer. Let's just say I can't pick
Devin and then pick somebody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody else has to know totally.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of smarter than that. I don't know
what's going.
Speaker 3: On, thank you, wife. I think that's the part, is
that there's strategic that you can do here.
Speaker 4: Because he's got someone to fuck in the house.
Speaker 3: This year, but car he can use he could use
that to hide what he's doing, I think is what
we'll say. He could use this as cover.
Speaker 4: I agree. I agree he could use it as cover,
but it's because he has someone in the house. Every
time any of these people get someone to hook up
with in the house, they instantly become dumber. Every single
one of them instantly becomes dumber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just him being dumb.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is just him being dumb, because a little
bit later on, he says he cares more about Michelle's
game than he does about his own, which is bullshit.
It it's always bullshit when people say that. I could
not believe that those words came out of his mouth.
He knows better than to say that shit, Like, calm on, dude,
this I.
Speaker 3: Was very disappointed in Devin. He's not normally this type
to kind of like.
Speaker 4: The house. All of them, the moment they get someone
to fuck in the house, they get so much dumber.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't like any of this for instantly.
Speaker 3: And he looked like such a bitch. He looked so
pathetic trying to shove this off on like, oh, Michelle's
not gonna say my name, so I'm not gonna bother
And I think Corey was right to call him out
like this was pathetic. That's looked pathetic. I did not
like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you start fucking somebody, it instantly makes you
dumber when you get talked into shit you don't want
to do all the time, like go into a furniture
store at your tesla and picking up.
Speaker 3: Right you got to turn around at the last second,
make fun of the birthday guy. That's the you gotta do. Uh,
all right, we're still in this thing. Corey says he's
getting fucked, which he is. Devin sort of like shrugs
at him, which is probably what I would do if
I was Devin, But it sucks for Corey, and I
really like Corey, and Corey has every right.
Speaker 2: To be mad because it's just like when you do
stupid shit like this, I'm the one that has to
pay for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I one hundred percent agree totally, and I
think we can embrace Corey's growth. He's not gonna fucking
flip Devon over like over a bowl of pasta. He's
just gonna be like, well, Devin, that's fucking bullshit and
you suck, which that's what he did, which is true.
Speaker 2: And then it's it's gonna come down to, well, we're
in this situation again, guess who's I'm not volunteering and
I'm gonna throw your ass under the bus.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I just this is this what a reversal?
Corey is the reasonable, responsible one and Devin's a little
whiny bitch over there. Weird, uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: It is weird.
Speaker 3: Rachel confronts Naya and bas says like, hey, can you
cut us some slack and just like not throw us
in this time? And Naya says no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and say I am surprised there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's it. We're on the nominations.
Speaker 2: You mean I didn't have a pulled up nominations.
Speaker 3: There we go. Uh So, just for those that need
a reminder, we have Jordan and Nyah. They are the winner,
so they're running at Kyland and Michelle they're going right
on end, so they're sitting at the table. The other
two that are nominated are Neemiah and Aviv and Darrell
and Tina. Darrell's argument is basically like, uh, hey give
us a break. We need a break. Can you give
us a break?
Speaker 2: How's this?
Speaker 3: Is this a good this a good approach from Durell?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know that there's really any other way that
he could have approached this.
Speaker 2: And obviously this has been out of the down, so
we don't know, but seems like it could have been like, look,
Derek is can't barely even walk. Yeah, my back's all
fucked up. Tina's Tina. The only person you gotta worry
about is Rachel, so she's not even up for nominations.
So yeah, like maybe we shouldn't go in. Yeah, that
would have been my like.
Speaker 3: Please, And that seems like the logical thing, like if
you're trying to win this game, you should keep Era
one in there, which is weird that the Era three
and four lines is so strong that they don't see this,
but yeah, this seems to be like the what the
rest of the episode's about.
Speaker 4: Essentially, it is very bizarre to me, Like, I everybody
wants to keep their hookup buddies, which I get, but
at the same time, like, get out the good players.
You have chances right now to get some some better
players out.
Speaker 3: Why aren't you trying that somebody?
Speaker 2: Somebody at some point brings up like Era two needs
to be thinned out, like he needs to lose some players,
and Era four, yeah, even if it's me Amiah and
Aviv like arguably not the best players on their team,
but yeah, losing members to.
Speaker 4: Because if they lose ne Amyah and Aviv, then you
instantly have for the women at least three really like
a few really strong players.
Speaker 3: That yeah, the targets every time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a lot easier to get Kara or
Laurel out if you get a Viv out now. So yeah,
it's it's they're the game moves that these people are making.
It's it. And I mean I get that it always
has been something that's based on relationships and how they
feel about each other in personal things in the house,
but for something that so many of them say this
is a game, they really don't play it like a game,
because if they were, they would have they would have
thrown Jordan in at the very first one. They would
have thrown bananas in every single time they got a chance.
Speaker 3: Like, uh, all right, so Durell says, give us a
break and this you you mentioned it will fee this
part is weirdly edited. Actually, the rest of this nomination
shit is weirdly edited.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Tina breaks in and says like, Hey, I don't want
to have to do this, but I want to tell
this story about Vietnam and coming from Vietnam and my
mom was a native from Vietnam, and like it's almost
all to do with anything. Well, they're in the.
Speaker 4: Vietnam No, I understand that, but this is yet again
one of those things where it's like, my dad fought
in Vietnam. Okay, you're playing a game like this has
literally nothing to do other than where we are at
with what's happening right now.
Speaker 3: I think she's doing this to just sort of like
make it hard for them to throw her in. So
she's like doing the sob story. She's doing everything that
she can do. But it does get really weird because
at the end of this, like everyone's crying and shit
and we don't know what happened, Like Jordan's like wiping
tears from his eyes and stuff. It's like what did
Tina say? Like or what did somebody said? That's like
making everybody the stable cry. We didn't see it.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was just my mom's for Vietnam?
And everybody was just like so they're like, oh my god,
you guys saw it.
Speaker 3: Though it was not subtle. Jordan's like taking his T
shirt up and like wiping his eyes with it. Like
what was Jordan crying about? I don't understand it. I
still don't know what he was crying about, but yeah,
we missed. We missed a big portion of this, like
a huge portion. We actually don't even see Neamiah and
Aviv talk. We don't know kind of what they said.
And yeah, it was very I don't know, very weird,
very weird and sort of nomination session. Also, I'm not
sure if you guys caught it, but as they're leaving
the room, Kylon turns around to give Naya a kiss goodbye,
and it's like super fucking weird and awkward, and he
ends up like kissing her chin. Do you see that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I did see that. It was kind of
like a he was trying to go in for it.
She didn't realize it was going to happen, and it
kind of looked like a thank you kiss.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a little I think it was just the mistiming.
Speaker 3: It was awkward, and I loved it. I loved the
awkward shit like that because these people seem too cool
and good looking sometimes and then they do an awkward
thing and it's like, oh, fucking I do awkward shit
like that. That's cool. I'm into that, all right, that's enough. Well,
if you do awkward kisses, you're awkward kiss guy that
ever happened to you?
Speaker 2: Uh, only with me and Sindy, that's the only you.
Speaker 4: Never had awkward kisses with Amanda.
Speaker 3: No, never had a kiss that you like, like a date.
You like thought she was in and then like you
tried and she was like not in.
Speaker 2: I've purged everything with Amanda out of my.
Speaker 3: Brain, everything, everything pre Amanda's gone. It's just out.
Speaker 2: It's just the first kiss was Cindy's infamous for her
going in to kiss me and me turning my head
and gone, oh, look a dog because we were walking
by the by the river front and it was just
the most awkward thing ever.
Speaker 4: And so it's awesome. Did she like get your beard
or she's just.
Speaker 2: Like stopped like right in front of my face. Was
like are you serious? And I was like, oh, I mean,
I mean, I'm like well literally after the kiss, I
was like, well, I'm never I'm never gonna live that one.
Speaker 4: That's fantastic.
Speaker 3: I like that little awkwardness makes people more human. Thank
you for sharing Wolf. Yes, it's great. I like Kylan
Moore every time I see the guy this maybe even
like Kylan Moore. If I ever see him meet him
in life, I'm gonna give him kiss right on the chin,
make him very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe let's not do that.
Speaker 3: I don't need your advice, dude. I'm all good. So
we're at the house. We're at the house again.
Speaker 4: This is podcast. Gets arrested for sexual.
Speaker 3: On one of the people. Kyle, It'll be fine, he'll
be fine with it. He's cool. Okay, he's cool. All right,
we're in that. We're back in the house. This is
post nomination though. Uh, and this is weird. Derek and
Rachel are talking. This is when they're like laying in bed,
you know, and Derek says something like, hey, I know,
we got to kind of say what we have to
say to stick around here. But that doesn't mean I
have to like it. Like he said something like that,
which makes me think that he knew that Tina was
gonna say something that was sort of just emotionally appealing
to stay. I'm not sure how to decipher that. What
do you guys think? What did that conversation mean?
Speaker 4: It went in one ear and out the other eye, Honestly,
if it.
Speaker 2: Was about that or just the sort of Durrell's thing
in general, like, look, man, we're all beat up. We
need a break, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, this is when Rachel just gets back into
her sort of preaching mode and tells Derek all of
the reasons that it shouldn't be them, which we've all
discussed on this show so far, and we all agree
with Rachel is right. But she's talking to Derek who
cannot impact this game at all and doesn't matter. So
why is she saying this.
Speaker 4: Jacqueline in the chat room says, Tim has a lot
of issues tonight. First the Filter stuff and now it's
sexually harassing.
Speaker 3: The Hitler stuff.
Speaker 4: She corrects Filter to Hitler.
Speaker 3: No, the Hitler stuff was Carlin, and I cannot take
credit for that. I thought I did not say that.
You did. I did not the Hitler stuff. The cake, No,
that was not me. That was no, that was you.
I don't know anything about fourteen eighty eight. You educated me.
Speaker 4: I don't know I did educate you.
Speaker 3: And then you said, oh, hi the eight eight. Well,
because I kind of put it together, I didn't mean.
I didn't mean. I'm not praising Hitler. Yes, sound put
it all over the internet all right, I shouldn't do that,
all on do that now. Don't sound bite that, guys,
don't sound bite what I said an hour ago. It
would be bad for me, well for you love in
this or what? All right? All right, all right, all right,
John went home? Can believe it? John? My guy? John?
Episode one Carl huh survivor. Oh it's terrible. I got
from America.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes we can. So this is when Jordan and
I they do the responsible thing, right. They go to
Tina's bedroom and they just say like, Eatina, sorry, dude,
it's you. Tina fucking freaks and yeah, uh so my notes,
my notes say here Tina fucking freaks out. Durrell goes
and takes a nap because he says, I'm not going
to waste any energy on this, like I need to.
I'm about to go into elimination. I gotta like it's
like I gotta rest up, you know. And then it
cuts to Tina, who's just like fuck you, like fucking.
Speaker 4: Flip Tina's Tina's going full Grimlin mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah what do we think? Does Tina have a point though?
Or what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What's going on here? I mean, yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Kind of made it just a minute ago, Like, why
would you throw in a team that is so obviously
not competition right now when you could throw in two
decent players, or at least to two decent players and
two decent players that happened to be on one of
the largest teams there right now, that would then force
that team to have to pretty consistently put in their
best players. So it's yes, I think she has a point,
but I think she goes about it wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she needs to just come from a
position of strength and say kind of what you said, Carlin,
but and end it by like if I just have
to keep taking all you guys out that I'll just
keep doing that, you know, or just I don't know,
she seemed like a whiner. I don't like whiners on
this show, even if she's right. Who who's a whiner?
I like on this show, everybody let's go, yeah, you're
full of shit. Rachel and Aviv go to Derek and Ryan,
and this is when we get into that pep talk
thing where Rachel says like she's sick of hearing everybody
talk about Era one the way they are, including the
people on Era one. I think she's talking about Tina,
which is basically saying like, yeah, we're weak, but keep
us because we're weak, keep us because you can beat us,
keep us because like we're pathetic, we're injured or whatever.
Speaker 4: No, but the only the only decent player on that
team is Rachel. I get it.
Speaker 3: But it's still like, Yeah, from Rachel's perspective, I think
that this sounds like a pathetic argument, which it is,
which is sort of like, oh, you know why you
should keep us here because we're not going to win,
so you should keep us here for longer. And Rachel's
point is like, don't say that shit like that's pathetic, which.
Speaker 2: It is, Rachel. You don't have to believe it. I
just have to say it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I appreciate Rachel in this moment. I think
this is like, this is what we need on the
Era one. I'm ready to see this. I wish he
had anybody other than Derek fighting alongside her. But here
we are, all right, well that's it. We get a
conversation with h we're not under elimination yet, we get
a conversation with Michelle talking to the other women, Tory, Olivia, Casey.
They're hyping her up. Oh, this is the Bananas and
Ryan confrontation where Ryan tells Johnny that he has a
golden spoon up his ass? What did that mean? And
who's right in this fight? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: What did that mean?
Speaker 3: Gold silver spoon up his ass?
Speaker 4: It's like someone telling you that you were born with
a silver spoon in your mouth, like you are constantly
given these great opportunities. He's just I mean, yeah, I
get something a little bit and saying you've got a
golden spoon up your ass, like you are always always
make it to the final because of your relationships and
because of the people that you know, and this is
the first time that you have it. I mean, it's
all the stuff that we talked about earlier. Yeah, he's
just changing up the silver spoon in your mouth to
golden spoon in your ass.
Speaker 3: I just think of silver spoon in your mouth as
like you come from a bunch of money, which maybe
Bananas does too.
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, that is technically where it came from.
Speaker 2: But that means you're afforded more opportunities. Yeah everybody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought it was weird, and I thought
Ryan looked super nervous during these scenes. Ah h and
Ryan is just like whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan does bring up the old Challenge seasons where
he was quote unquote disposable, and I do remember these
seasons where they would you know, I remember these.
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna stop, like he he almost
stumbled here when uh, when that was brought up, and
then when he throws it back at Johnny, they it
was because Johnny made him disposable. Oh my god, you
didn't stumble. Yes, good john you had to come back Guss. Yeah,
this is true.
Speaker 3: I think it was true. I also think it changes nothing.
But I do like, I don't know, I think Ryan
should volunteer because I don't think Ryan. It's not going
to force Ryan a volunteer. It's not going to force
Bananas to like Ryan anymore. Like, it's not going to
change any dynamics in the house. That's how this this fight. Yeah,
there's no there's no resolution here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm really not that upset that Ryan's not volunteering because
it just means that Johnny has to go in more
often than I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3: I feel like that, I feel like they should be
volunteering all of them.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not sure that they set up a volunteering system.
I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I truly do in this instance, I
really because it's not.
Speaker 3: But guys, listen, listen, I know, but listen. The point
is the team not agreeing to it is because the
people inside the team are not not agreeing to it,
and the people inside the team should be agreeing to it,
is my point, and then if they did, then the
whole team I need to do it again. It's my thing. Guys.
Have I mentioned it's my birthday? I said that, you
guys can stop giving me a ship. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Elimination, Yes, we're here, this one's going. Yes, boxerphobia. Hate this,
hate this name, hate this name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a stupid name it had. Yeah, it
was a stupid name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is awful. Uh Uh. The elimination Yeah, the
elimination itself was also stupid. There's really all the stuff
that I like, and a challenge has had none of it.
I like the endurance, I like some physicality, some problem solving.
Speaker 4: This was it was not a whole lot of fun
to watch. It didn't like there. Yeah, yep, boor Rings explain.
Do you want to explain the game for the listeners?
Speaker 3: Sure, there's a series of sliding doors and also sliding rods.
You slide these doors and rods and make your way
through this obstacle course type of situation while solving Math
problems along the way. You enter in that math solution
into a lock, and when you unlock it, you win.
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, congratulations, everybody. Notification just came through. The strike's over.
We don't have to hoard toilet paper anymore, thank Christ,
fake Christ. The port workers have agreed that in their strike.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, good.
Speaker 2: I had no idea people the people were starting to
hoard toilet paper again because.
Speaker 3: People shud, It's like it's twenty twenty again. Awesome, we
don't need that, We don't need that. Use as much
toilet paper as you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is so this game I found, yeah, really
really really dumb. I was more disappointed though, by how
fucking bad the way the ladies are at math.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The women had to keep going back three or
four times each and.
Speaker 4: The day I paused the screen for a minute because
because I wanted to see what the calculation was. It
took me less than a minute to run through that
whole thing, And I'm sitting there thinking, like as I'm
running through like this is this is not this is
not difficult? Like how how has it taken them like
six times of going back through this thing to figure
out what the answer to this is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. It was very weird, bad show. I
think I think I would have. I'm pretty good at
math in my head. I think I can.
Speaker 4: And it's it's one of those things that like they
have the time as they're moving these poles out of
the way to be like seventy five plus fifty two
minus sixty three, Like you have a few minutes to
you can say it out loud because the other person
is gonna be able to hear. You can say it
out loud. Okay, well, seventy two plus fifty whatever is
you know it's seven plus five and then we've got
a we've got a two, so it's gonna be you know,
one oh four whatever. Like they could talk themselves through
this thing. Like no one's yelling at them as due
this is what that answer is. They're just saying, yeah,
I keep going, and they have the time between each door.
Speaker 3: Yeah for showing on the ladies part, for showing and also,
as you said, not super fun to watch, like I'm
sure that this is maybe thrilling when you're in the
arena or something, but like there's nothing.
Speaker 4: There was anticipation if you're in the the arena, but
that's about it.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, there's ways to make this game the same game,
but like, look cooler. I don't know what to do.
I don't have any ideas, but there's got to be
This was not fun to watch them like navigate through
a closet and then solve Matt Like not very interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they attempted to make it visually pleasing because
all the doors were clear, But at first.
Speaker 2: I thought this was going to be like the uh,
the last part of the final on the season that
Devin and Tory won, right.
Speaker 4: Where they were like they would pull things out and
stuff would fall down and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to bust through dry wall, you know. Yeah,
like just move these poles out of the way, open
another door, move poles.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you didn't even have to move all
of the polls. You just had to move enough to
be able to get through to that next door.
Speaker 3: Yep, and the polls took. I mean, if you're a
Kyland and it showed Kylon doing it. These poles are
less than one second each, just like boom boom boom. Yeah,
they're just like when Kylin was doing they were just
like flying out of the side, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that was the other super disappointing part. Durell
being the first person, the first guy out and then
to Rachel's point, bending down, getting on his knees in
front of the final bit and taking a solid like
what looked like thirty seconds to move sand out of.
Speaker 2: The I'm wondering, how what are you doing? Wondering how
edited this was? Because man, he was smoothing that dirt
out for.
Speaker 4: I mean, even if it was just like once or twice,
like what do you what do you do? It was
seven hundred and sixty times too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said that in his last confession, He's like,
I could have done that in my fucking head. What
was I thinking? And it's like I kind of wondered,
did he throw it? Because that's like so bizarre to
be doing so well and to have the number to
be able to add up to seven to sixty in
your head but not be able to multiply it by two. Yeah,
maybe it's a little strange.
Speaker 2: Chris Chris brings up they only had the numbers in
the cube. You did not get whether they were to add, subtract,
multiply until they opened the card by the lock.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so they only had then irons, so.
Speaker 2: You couldn't do the actual mathematics until.
Speaker 4: Wait, no, they it said it said plus and minus
on the doors. I thought I thought it actually said
plus and minus on the doors.
Speaker 2: Don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't recall either.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that dirt was real smooth though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor Durell, he did say. I mean, he seemed
to be beating himself up over it, Like I had
a thought of like, did he throw this on purpose?
Did he waste the time to do that?
Speaker 4: Okay in his confession have it had the plus and
minuses on the doors, So I think it's just the
final whether they had to multiply or divide what was
in the envelope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it still strikes me as very weird that he
could add all that like on his way there and
couldn't multiply by two like needed the dirt, and that
seems a little weird. And part of me was thinking
like did he do this on like was he trying
to go home, but he seemed to He's seemed upset
enough and as confessional as afterwards. I don't think he was.
Speaker 4: I think he just and he was as he was
bending down, and he was bending it like okay, let
me let me do this in the dirt that you
could hear him say that in the microphone.
Speaker 3: Okay, So he just he just kind of got in
his head and kind of freaked out and couldn't ye, yeah,
couldn't pull it out. Kylon didn't seem to struggle at all.
He didn't bend down or do any fucking He just
ran right out of the room and just put the
thing in the lock and it was open and that
was done well.
Speaker 4: I mean to their point, I said, you know, he's
the human calculator.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One thing I did want to point out, Kylin sort
of comments that apparently when he was a child he
was nonverbal, which seeing Kylon today, I was actually very
impressed with how far he's come. A friend of mine
has a couple autistic sons that are nonverbal, and to
go from that to the person we see on TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't realize he was nonverbal as a kid.
That is a huge accomplishment because now only is he
going from being non verbal to verbal, he's being He's
going non verbal to verbal to being willing to go
on TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and beat Durrell twice two time, Challenge Himp
twice and like listen. I like Kyland. I'm not embarrassed
admitted anymore. I like the guy. I think he's incredibly smart,
Like obviously, he's just really smart and gifted in that way.
He's very athletic and very physical. He's going to be
a champ. I don't know about this season, but I
don't think he's going to stop till he wins this game. Frankly,
he seems ready to go.
Speaker 2: I didn't like him towards the end of his Big Brother,
but I didn't watch that. He's come around him and
him and X almost got into a fistfight. Oh nice,
they're less a little bit so yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took me a while warm up to him,
But I think I like Kyland now. So Michelle and
Kylon they win choosing the targets for next week for
Air one, there's only there's no more choosing of targets.
It's just the two of them, Derek and Rachel every time.
Air two targets are Kara and Derek sure Era three,
Corey and Avery.
Speaker 2: Because fucking Devin wouldn't volunteer.
Speaker 3: That's right. And then Avery got Avery got a weird
during this part too, like she's still volunteered and then
had to like explain it and like justify it, and
she's like, wait, I really do believe in us. I
think we're gonna do great. And it's like this volunteer
like you're fine, Yeah, it's weird. And Era four Jenny
who did not volunteer, but Olivia, and uh, who's the
other one that didn't volunteer. Who's the other fourth generation person?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 3: Oh, and then I remember it doesn't matter whoever it
was didn't volunteer, and so it's Jenny again. Uh, THEO volunteered.
Speaking of people, I'm coming to really like THEO. I
warmed up to THEO, especially during this part when he
did the one eyed warrior thing, and I don't know,
I like this.
Speaker 4: Yep, Jenny really is getting the shortened ind of that
stick yep Like but yeah, I mean, yeah, she's getting
the short end of that stick. It's the same kind
of shit that that Johnny's getting pissed about, but it's
because the other people in that team have the relationships.
But what hey, so Carlin, Casey.
Speaker 3: That's it? Who wait, who who's that? I don't know
who that is?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Uh So, Carlin, let's say you are Kyland and it's
your turn, and you're up there, and Jenny's been thrown
in fucking three times already and the other two have not.
Are you strong enough to be like, I'm sorry, like
fucking Casey, I like you more, I'm connected to you,
but it is we just have to take turns, and
now it is yours.
Speaker 4: I mean honest with you. I don't know that I
would have thrown in Casey because he and Casey seem
to be like, have a friendship. But he should have
absolutely thrown in Olivia. Like, I am surprised because Kyland
in the past has like last season and he was
on he got thrown in consistently, and he made a
big point about how he doesn't want he doesn't like
the people do that, he doesn't want to do that
to people. It was kind of surprising that he picked
Jenny because this is what her third or fourth time
going in now. Yeah, so she's like, you you have
said before that that's not what you're about. But yet
here you are doing that to someone who has been
very vocal about the fact that she keeps getting thrown in.
So yeah, it was a little surprising that he picked
her rather than going with one of the other ladies.
Speaker 3: I also think that there is something to be said
for like improving your team around by throwing in the
person that doesn't want to be thrown in, Like we
saw that with john A right who it was her turn.
She didn't want to, so she didn't, and Neamiah was
just like, well, Johnny, I'm sorry. It's like it's you,
even though I'm connected to you, even though I like you,
like it is your turn, and she was like, I
don't know. She sort of seemed to think. Her attitude
is sort of like, oh, well, I guess it is me.
Then I think that's what I would.
Speaker 4: Attitude wasn't oh I guess it's me. Then her attitude was,
oh I thought that I could trust Nehemiah and I
just got stabbed in the face.
Speaker 3: Well, she didn't take it on her team, I guess
is the thing, Like she didn't throw a challenge or like,
you know what I mean, Like she wasn't. I just
feel like, if I were Kyland, I would be like, hey, whoever,
case you ever like? I like you?
Speaker 4: But she wasn't on the same team as Neamiah. She
was on ERA three and Nemiah's on ERA two.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they were just closer, all right. Yeah, thought
even still like it even if they were on the
same team. I guess that proves my like, if they
were hypothetically on the same team, you know, like, isn't
that isn't that a way to do it to like help,
like pick somebody on your team that doesn't want to
go in just sort of force them. Wouldn't that do something?
Speaker 4: I think it pissed people off.
Speaker 3: I feel like, but if you piss off one person
for the benefit of the team, and that's still better.
Speaker 4: I mean maybe if it's but if it depends on
who that person is, If that person is someone who's
well liked by the team, like Casey's well liked by
her teammates, She's got a lot of strong relationships in there.
If you throw her in, then you've kind of fucked
yourself more than you fucked her. Yeah, I mean I
think it's I don't know that it's an apples to
It's definitely not an apples to apples comparison because Johnna
is not the same team as Neamayah and john ay
doesn't have strong relationships with most of the people in
her team or on the in the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. I hope we see it, though. I
hope somebody throws in somebody on their team that doesn't
want to be thrown in. I hope we see that.
Speaker 4: That would be nice. Well, now that we are down
to two players in Era one, do you think we're
going to continue with this team's format?
Speaker 3: I think at least one more round. It start seems
like we are, do you.
Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't say anything in the in the
the uh next week on, but I honestly would not
be surprised if TJ pulls a fast one on them
and says, you know, we're switching it up because I
feel like, I don't know, I just I feel like
Rachel and Derek are two liked by then the producers.
I don't really know. It just it seems I don't
feel like this is a a game that they would
let one of the teams go home entirely. I mean,
maybe it is I could be totally wrong on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I feel like they would tease
it because that would be a good cliffhanger for the
next episode.
Speaker 4: True. I mean, maybe Derek finally goes home next episode
and we keep Rachel and then they tease it.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do we feel about about Darrell going home?
This episodi soe when Derek is still hobbling on one
fucking leg.
Speaker 3: I think it's pathetic. I hate this. I hate this.
I hate this. I hate this. I wish if there
was something we didn't see, I wish we'd see it,
like these guys talking to Derek, Like, because now we've
seen Brad and Durrell both go home with a fucking
Derek who cannot run a final?
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I wish some time says some bullshit about
how Derek's got heart and she would take she would
take heart over two working legs.
Speaker 3: Like, are you have you seen a final? You gotta
run ten miles, right, you can't do that on one leg?
Speaker 4: Maybe a pit bull, but he's no. Derek's gonna fail
miserably in the final if he has to do this
on one leg. No one can do that except for Jordan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm getting more frustrated at Derek for like,
why is he here? He's not like what are you?
What are you doing?
Speaker 4: You guys mentioned last week that you're you dislike Derek
Moore and more every episode, and I agree. He's too
much of a try hard the last few seasons that
he's come back on. It's just not fun to watch him. No,
and I know shit like this, and it's like you're
taking the place of someone who has a legit chance,
Like Darrell only barely missed this this puzzle and it
was just because he made a boneheaded move. Derek would
have gotten out of that thing and been like.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really listen. I think Derek is stupid. I think
he's a really stupid person. And I think that he's
just entering this thinking that like, oh, the fans are
gonna love it, an injured person like doing his best,
but like, the fans don't love this because that means
that the people that are not injured are going home
and you can't possibly win. And it's like, I don't know,
I just don't like it. I would have a lot
more respect for him if he was just like, hey, Brad,
I know you're supposed to go in, but I got
a bum fucking leg and I'm gonna go home. I
don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the chat room says Brad was already the
nominee when Derek got injured. Derek could not have taken
his place. Derek should have volunteered for Darrell this week.
I don't just.
Speaker 3: Gone just go home, just go home.
Speaker 4: I don't know that we actually know that Derek couldn't
have taken Brad's place or just gone home. If Derek
had got into the if they'd gotten to the end
of that and realize that Derek was injured and that
sort of thing. I wonder if he could have, like
if he could have said something to the producers whatever
and been like, let me switch, let me switch, because
I already know, like, let me switch. Let maybe the
one who goes into elimination. You guys choose us for
elimination because I'm already injured. Sorry to whoever the woman
was last week. I I remember, HM, but let's put
me in and if I go home, then I go home.
And if I don't, then I have proven myself to
live to fight another day, and then I'm not taking
the spot. Of someone who's not injured. But yeah, he
absolutely last week should have stepped up as the volunt
tear and not even remotely let it go towards Darrell.
That was a dumb, boneheaded move on his part.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or you do you just go home like medically,
you're just medically, like fucking we wouldn't. We wouldn't feel
like you did something to your leg though, like we're
not going to judge you for doing poorly or whatever,
Like just go home and then like we just advanced.
Speaker 4: I read either on our Facebook or somewhere else, that
he tore his ACL. Did you guys say that last week?
Speaker 2: That's what I heard somewhere.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it's so apparently he tore his ACL, and
the reason why they didn't focus on it and the
red was because they didn't want to, like he declined
medical attention or something like that.
Speaker 2: That was my assumption.
Speaker 3: I saw.
Speaker 2: I saw it on another challenge group on Facebook that
Derek had said he tore his ACL. He got surgery
as soon as the season was over. But then my
speculation was, I wonder if they did want to show it,
because it's like, oh, challengers can just reject medical attention.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't want to pull a car Maria or
a Hunter where they break their arm and then continue competing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris is it's been years since an injury has
been allowed to take the place of the elimination. True,
but you know, one can always hope. Yeah, what happened
this time anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't keep jacking when they did that last time,
but I mean, we've seen it a bunch, and it
seems like the reasonable thing to do, especially as a
team is losing so many players. But who knows.
Speaker 4: I think if I think if Derek had bowed out
when he did whatever the fuck he did to his
knee prior to them getting the the information is to
who won and who lost that episode, and then also
prior to the actual elimination, there is a pretty high
chance that they would have just said, dudes, you can
sit you can sit this one out because we've already
sent one home. Because they've done that recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it says it's been years. Yeah, and maybe
it has been years since they've done it, but you
know they're gonna do it again. And it probably does
depend on the contestants and the game and the players
and whoever is going into the who whatever thing. But
as one team is dwindling and you have a you
have a medical evacuation, I definitely believe they would not
make another player going to elimination.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's really surprising to me that Era one
is down to two players and one of those players
can't walk on one of his legs.
Speaker 3: Yep, he should be home. I don't know why he's not.
It's very weird. Yeah. So he said something in the
confessional like, oh, you know what, this just means we're
going to be badass, a beat them ourselves. And I'm
just sitting here like, ah, you're full of shit, Derek.
It was Jordan saying that I'd be pumped, but I'm
going to be.
Speaker 4: So surprised if Derek does not go home next episode. Yeah,
I'm gonna be so surprised.
Speaker 3: Right, and then I'm just gonna think that Derek should
have gone home two episodes ago and let Brad and
Derell live another episode. You know, we'll see.
Speaker 4: Yep. I agree with that.
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Speaker 2: There you go, Carlyn, you want to talk about the
Fantasy League. Yes, I guess we don't know what's going
on with ours because Zach sent here.
Speaker 4: Zach sent here, and we can pretend like we don't
know what's going on with the host league at all.
The host League, Big Uncle Sweet Tea has twelve twelve
twenty eight, Yeah, twelve ninety.
Speaker 3: Two coming for you.
Speaker 4: Carl Wolf, he's got sixteen fifty two yeah, and then
Benetta Zachi Bananas is twenty.
Speaker 3: Zach's kind of crushing it. And Carlin, by the way,
you're gonna lose, Like, I know you're feeling pretty good,
You've got you've got a worst roster. I'm gonna I'm
definitely gonna.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm I am so fucked because I just
I just lost to Arel, so I am down to
four people. I have THEO, Rachel, Aviv and Derek.
Speaker 3: That's good. The Rachel, THEO and Rachel though, those are
those are good. Those are players.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have I have the potential of losing
Derek next week and the potential of losing Rachel next week.
Speaker 3: And I got Laurel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's mine. Big uncle, sweet Tea, you are
down to You have Laurel, Ryan, Avery Kazenski, Derek Kazenski, Casey.
Speaker 3: Who Wolfy never heard her?
Speaker 4: Wolfy. You've got Devin Kara, Johnny, Nya and Tory.
Speaker 2: Listen to that lineup.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty decent one. And then Zachie Bananas has Corey, Michelle, Josh, Jenny, Kylan, Jordan, Olivia,
and Nehemiah.
Speaker 2: Some goodness too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for those later episodes when somehow I've
still got players and Zach is just bleeding players. That
would be great, all right. And Public League, which is
much more fun to look at the Public League. We
have first place. Is I touched Johnny's Banana with twelve
eighty eight. That's Garrett H who did confirm in the
in the league chat saying yes, thanks. Also, I am
I am a real Garrett h so it is not
Gareth pretending to be someone else for Tim's certification. And
then in second place is CT Phone Home with twelve
twelve eighty four, So just a four point difference there, boys,
And then I am in third place with twelve thirty five.
And then we've Wolf. He's in thirteenth with ten forty eight.
Zachie Bananaz is in fifteenth with ten thirty eight.
Speaker 3: And don't say it, don't say don't say it, don't
say it, don't say it. Stop stop, just stop. I'm
doing all right. I'm hanging in there.
Speaker 4: I'm hanging in there thirty second with me sixty I.
Speaker 3: Know, hanging in there.
Speaker 4: So you I didn't realize until I listened to the
show last week. You didn't put in your numbers last week.
Speaker 3: Can you believe it? I fucking forgot to do it.
I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Tony. You need to jump on my train this season
and do it the moment that you finished watching the episode.
Speaker 3: I know. I made fun of you relentlessly for not
doing it, and then I did it.
Speaker 4: Twoculars did it. Yeah, yeah, so that's where we're oh.
And then we also have the let me check the
other one. Hold on, I did league.
Speaker 3: I swung for the fences. By the way, I knew
I missed a week, and I knew I'd been falling behind,
and I've been kind of slow playing it. I went
I went big this week. You've been saying I didn't make.
Speaker 4: Any playing it since the beginning of the season, and
on like week three, we told you you need to stop,
you need to stop slow playing it.
Speaker 3: I'm going nuts now. I went nuts this episode, and
I still didn't. I still don't do very good.
Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta pick the players. You need to
only go with the players who were nominated as targets.
I did.
Speaker 3: I did this seat. I think I picked one or
two saved ones.
Speaker 4: All right, well here, we'll look at it in a seconds.
So in the other public league, that's just for Crisp
Pie five, I'm finally not in first place. I touched
Johnny's Beana finally overtook me. He's got fifteen hundred, yeah,
fifteen hundred and eight. I'm in second with fourteen ninety four,
and CT Phone Home is in third with fourteen forty seven.
Uh Zach Bananas is coming up in fourth with fourteen
forty six, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea you're in thirteenth
with eight o four woo.
Speaker 3: So let's see.
Speaker 4: Let's look at your team last week on here hold on.
Speaker 3: I know I got Kyland. I got Kyland in there.
Speaker 4: All right, So last week you chose a viv Devon,
Kyland and Naya. Why did you put Devon in there?
Speaker 3: I think he was one of my safe ones. I
wasn't gonna lose or gain money with it, or he does.
He does some romance stuff, right, he does some romance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not you want to if you want
to swing for the.
Speaker 3: Safe, he's only going to get me positive. He can't
deduct points for me. He can't. He can't make me.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna swing for the fences, you need to
only put in people who were targets. Otherwise you're not
swinging for the fences.
Speaker 3: He was my saying. He did.
Speaker 4: He did get ninety points, So good.
Speaker 2: Job on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe so, maybe so, maybe I had made
a good move. All right? Then, all right, now we know,
thanks Karling, prove my point. I did actually actually did
do decent this week. I'm happy with my picks this week,
Devin had the most points. Thank you, Jacqueline.
Speaker 4: Yeah he did all right then, but you missed out
on Michelle and Jordan and yeah.
Speaker 3: But I got I got Naya in there, and I
got I got Kylind. Yeah, look at me go. I'm
just saying, I'm going, I'm going for it now, I'm
going for now, guys, I'm coming up, coming up the ranks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Uh back to you, Wilfing, wrap us up.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody ahead over challenge pot dot Com joined the
Facebook group. Uh, Steven wants to know. What do you
think of the self volunteer process? Seems like Banana was
pretty frustrated with that on his podcast.
Speaker 3: We talked about that earlier, him very supportive. You should,
you should self volunteer. How this game is working?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right for this episode of the Challenge or
for for challenged. Jesus Christ, are you spinning out? Uh?
Speaker 3: We've only done this like five hundred times. Literally a
big uncle sweet.
Speaker 4: You Carl and san Diego.
Speaker 2: And as Rachel said, it's Tina time.
Speaker 4: He's he's on Chalie h