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<v Speaker 1>This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app KFI AM six forty. You at

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh Show. I'd like to welcome my Instagram audience. If

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to come and see what we're doing here

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, just log onto Instagram. My handle is

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<v Speaker 1>at doctor Wendy Walsh at d R Wendy Walsh. No period. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Kayla, this is the time where I'm taking your calls.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a relationship question, you're welcome to change

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<v Speaker 1>your name, keep your yourself private, that's okay. The number

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<v Speaker 1>is one eight hundred five two zero one five three four.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one eight hundred five two zero one KFI. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Kayla. Who do we have first? We have Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>with a question. Kelly, Hi, Kelly, it's doctor Wendy. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, your show is great and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate. So, first date not really update encounter. Second on

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<v Speaker 1>the first date, is there any hope for a relationship well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every time I say that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have sex on a first date, you're probably sending

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<v Speaker 1>the message that this is a short term relationship. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>will write to me and say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up with my wife on the first date and

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<v Speaker 1>we've been together thirty eight years, and I'm like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if it started in the eighties. The answer, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>is whether you can establish emotional intimacy, because at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, if you have sex on a

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<v Speaker 1>first date, you're basically saying this is just about sex.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can talk to them and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't usually do that, or I sometimes do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like this could be more. I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>strong feelings towards you. This was great. Could you know,

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<v Speaker 1>could we kind of reset a little bit and start

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<v Speaker 1>talking and get to know each other. They might be

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<v Speaker 1>open to it, they might be open to having a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>But in general, the rule is if you engage in

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<v Speaker 1>sex on a first date, then everybody's got what they

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<v Speaker 1>needed and they move along. There's no build up. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it, by the way, I've been heartbroken by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a guy said to me one I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to court. You dude, why are you like making it

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<v Speaker 1>seem like it's all my fault. You were the one

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<v Speaker 1>that moved to so Kelly maybe is my answer, big

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<v Speaker 1>fat maybe. Thank you so much for calling. Okay, producer Kayla,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we have next? We have Alex with the

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<v Speaker 1>question Alex, Hi, Alex is doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your question? Love?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of a two parter, but they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feed into each other, okay, because yeah, So basically

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<v Speaker 3>the first question is were the effects of the divorce

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<v Speaker 3>on children? And when do you know a marriage can't

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<v Speaker 3>be saved? And the whole point of asking is my

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<v Speaker 3>parents divorced when I was very young, and I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of wonder, well, you know, what could they have done

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<v Speaker 3>to save, if anything at all, and would that even

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<v Speaker 3>be better for me and by when we grew up if.

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<v Speaker 1>They had Well, of course I wasn't living in your family, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't see what went on. Because sometimes there

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<v Speaker 1>are toxic nests for kids where there are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence and alcohol abuse and drug abuse and child

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<v Speaker 1>you know, child corporal punishment hitting kids around basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>so in that case, parents divorcing like one good, solid, stable,

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<v Speaker 1>loving parent is always better than two. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>the research does show that staying together for the kids

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<v Speaker 1>is often a good idea. If parents can put their

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<v Speaker 1>adult needs aside and make the needs of the children.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key. You have to make the needs of

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<v Speaker 1>the children a priority. But your second question, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you know if you've done everything you can and the

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<v Speaker 1>marriage should have ended or should end? You could only

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<v Speaker 1>know that by doing the work with a licensed clinical therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to have outside eyes. You need to spend

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<v Speaker 1>some time doing some conscious uncom bling or conscious getting

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<v Speaker 1>back together. But you can't unless, as I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is so toxic that there's been drug or alcohol abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>that there's been domestic violence, that there's been chronic chronic,

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<v Speaker 1>chronic cheating that's not going away. Then you know it

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<v Speaker 1>can't it can't work. But thank you. It's a good question, Alex. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who do we have next? Producer calein, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>talk back with an interesting question. Talk back that's where

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners record a message, which you can do on

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeartRadio app. Okay, go ahead, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know I'm going to be seventy this year. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just so confused. I don't know how to address black

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<v Speaker 4>people anymore. You know, I'm not a racist, but I

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<v Speaker 4>said great neighbors that are black, And you know, is

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<v Speaker 4>it like people of color? Is it like African American?

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<v Speaker 4>Is like black people? I know it's not the N word,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't know what to do anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so honest, and I actually I'm sorry, producer, Kayla,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's some sweetness to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't be sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was very innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's I don't think he's asking me

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<v Speaker 1>how to talk to black people. He means how to

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<v Speaker 1>refer to the group of people of color? Right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he went through a laundry list. Do I call people

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<v Speaker 1>of colored people of color? Do I call him African American?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they call them black? I can't answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do have mixed race children, so I

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<v Speaker 1>could probably say what they would say. But Kayla, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you answer this question?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can't speak for all black people, but I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely don't like being referred to as colored.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't call me that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind being called black or African American though,

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<v Speaker 2>or beautiful, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think those are the most socially acceptable black

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<v Speaker 1>or African American right right now, in this time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so if you'd like to call in, the

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<v Speaker 1>number is one eight hundred five two zero one five

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<v Speaker 1>three four. That's one eight hundred five to zero one

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<v Speaker 1>five three four. I do want to take a moment

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<v Speaker 1>and go to social media because people have been sending

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<v Speaker 1>me dms as well, and I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I get a few of those in. All right, here's

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<v Speaker 1>one that producer Kayla just slipped to me. Dear doctor Wendy, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a heartbreaking one. How do I deal with

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<v Speaker 1>not being chosen? It's never me? I date men for

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<v Speaker 1>months who claim they don't want a relationship, then they

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<v Speaker 1>get in one and it's never me. It hurts so badly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna a couple things I want to address you.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two kinds of ways to look at the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look at the world as a glass half full,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can look at the world as a glass

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<v Speaker 1>half empty. And I would suspect, by the way you

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<v Speaker 1>worded all of this that you are more of a

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<v Speaker 1>pessimist who looks at the world as a glass half empty.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna say it's not about you, and going

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<v Speaker 1>to a therapist to build your self esteem is the

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<v Speaker 1>first bit of advice I'd have for you. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>something else I'm hearing you say, I date men for

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<v Speaker 1>months who claim they don't want a relationship. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to gently say, that's on you. We have to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to people's words. If they say they don't want a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't stay in it and try to convince them. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody says I want to break up, or I

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<v Speaker 1>want a divorce, or I'm happy to have sex with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want a romantic relationship, then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to believe those words. I will tell you truthfully that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me. There was a person in my life

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<v Speaker 1>for almost a decade who was on again, off again

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<v Speaker 1>playboy who I loved so deeply. Again, I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>away in the Navy on ships, and I was missing him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he behaved with He was a submariner, not my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy he would go down and up, well, he

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<v Speaker 1>also went down. It Kyla HeLa, Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying he disappeared and then he would resurface. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I said. Well, I don't know what you heard there, producer, Kayla,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you laughing so hard? You know? But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>one day he said to me, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can have a romantic relationship with you. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the person I've been sleeping with. Right, it felt just

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<v Speaker 1>hearing those words felt like the only way I can

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<v Speaker 1>describe it is it felt like a train rolling over

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<v Speaker 1>from my body from the toes up, this feeling of vibration,

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<v Speaker 1>of deep pain, and I start. I remember I was

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<v Speaker 1>driving my car very unsafe, pull over if this ever happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was crying so hard. I was shaking and

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<v Speaker 1>crying so hard, and I cried for like days hearing

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<v Speaker 1>those words. I mean, if he's listening, please no, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, because it was those words that sent me

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<v Speaker 1>to a therapist. It was those words with the goods

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<v Speaker 1>in my case, a psychoanalytic therapist or I love dearly

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, who helped me understand that this feeling

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<v Speaker 1>did not belong in this day, this feeling did not

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<v Speaker 1>belong with this man. This feeling was a very ancient

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that needed to be processed. But I know the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling you're in when you say why don't they pick you?

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<v Speaker 1>And you get in relationships with them and then they

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<v Speaker 1>say they don't want a relationship. Oh yeah, yeah, yah ya,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how much it hurts. Hey. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to continue going to my dms. Also, if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to, you can do a talk back. How

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<v Speaker 1>do they do a talk about Kayla? They have to

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<v Speaker 1>download the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little Mi cphone in the left hand corner

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<v Speaker 2>and they can record a thirty second message.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you download the iHeartRadio app and then search

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<v Speaker 1>KFI first KFI AM six forty AIM six forty and

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<v Speaker 1>then upper left there's a little microphone. You can at

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<v Speaker 1>any time do that anytime during the week, record that

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<v Speaker 1>and producer Kayla, we'll get it. Say here I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question for Doctor Wendy and she'll keep them all

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can play them on Sundays, which is

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<v Speaker 1>always fun. Anyway, we'll be back after this. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show i KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go to my social media now, because

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<v Speaker 1>so many of you do send me dms with your

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<v Speaker 1>relationship question and questions, and I am honored that you

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<v Speaker 1>do so so and I will protect your privacy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never going to say your handle or your name or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when I read your questions out, I sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>change the gender, the age, the occupation, whatever. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Just think we all need to be protected. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, Dear doctor Wendy. I was hooking up

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<v Speaker 1>with a man who wouldn't make me his girlfriend because

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to finalize his divorce before starting something new

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<v Speaker 1>How can I enforce more clear boundaries or found out

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<v Speaker 1>how he wants to move forward as a family, whether

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<v Speaker 1>we co parent or we're together. Okay, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>commit to you. Right. I always say that women should

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<v Speaker 1>for sex, which is care and commitment. So I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>him to suddenly say, my divorce is final. Let's you

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You definitely need a lawyer, and you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>need a licensed therapist, and you need to reach out that. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>and you find out what therapists they cover. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to excuse me, you need to at least call a

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<v Speaker 1>just ask a bunch of questions to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you say he's become a bit cold tells me that no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not going to be what you dream it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. I'm so sorry, baby, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>You're being given an amazing gift of a beautiful little

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on that angel and how you can make

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<v Speaker 1>the best life for them. Oh, thank you for writing

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<v Speaker 1>makes me sad? All right? Moving on, dear doctor Wendy.

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<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend has male best friend. Woo maybe a threat

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<v Speaker 1>to you. We'll see. We've been together eight months and

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<v Speaker 1>her male best friend's birthday is the day after mine.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to do I love it. I'm sorry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading this sentence and I'm already laughing because I'm like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you are brave. She wants to do a joint celebration

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<v Speaker 1>when I spent fifteen hundred dollars on her birthday celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound jealous or controlling, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is unacceptable. How do I address this? Well, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to sound jealous, you don't have to sound controlling.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just talk about you and what your needs are.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's perfectly okay to say, hey, great idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>no thanks, I'd rather celebrate my birthday privately with you,

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<v Speaker 1>just as I did for your birthday. That would have

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<v Speaker 1>more meaning for me. And that's it. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to give a whole bunch of other whatever. And she said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do it joint. Then you can

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<v Speaker 1>just move on and say, you know I'm gonna a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate my birthday with someone else? Then right, Just set

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<v Speaker 1>your boundaries. You don't have to convince her you have

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<v Speaker 1>the right way. Just do what's best for you. Take

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<v Speaker 1>care of you. I don't like this. Dear doctor, Wendy,

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<v Speaker 1>my fiance is going through a tough time. Her brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, was just diagnosed with stage four cancer. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry she's taking her pain out on me.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been together seven years, but I'm starting to resent

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<v Speaker 1>her attitude. How do I handle this? My future wife

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be able to handle her emotions. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a lovely, lovely sentence that a therapist told me

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<v Speaker 1>at a social event recently. Therapists hang out with therapists

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<v Speaker 1>and radio hosts and psychology professors. And actually this is

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<v Speaker 1>a birthday party for a sex therapist. Don't ask me

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<v Speaker 1>what went on there, nos, it was like it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun anyway. She said that when she's being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>she and not great, her husband has a line he

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<v Speaker 1>uses with her, and he says, please be more gentle

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife. Please treat my wife kinder. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking there's a version of this. She's taking out

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<v Speaker 1>her pain on you. But you could even say, I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to treat your husband a little more kindly

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<v Speaker 1>because he loves you. Something like that. Just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>let her know that she's being particularly hard on you. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>do cut her some slack. It is a really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>really hard time, all right, So I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>time for one more. Oh, it's a good question. Happens

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Dear doctor Wendy. After connecting with a

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<v Speaker 1>man on hinge he said he was six feet tall,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we met he was five foot nine. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I acknowledge his lie because I really don't like liars?

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<v Speaker 1>Or should I be sensitive to his insecurity? What an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent question. First of all, you should know that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>lies at the beginning of dating relationships. They shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>lying on dating apps because you haven't even met the

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<v Speaker 1>person yet. But part of human mating strategy is to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of make yourself seem like you are just the

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<v Speaker 1>most high value mate out there, right, So men more

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<v Speaker 1>often are likely to lie about their height and their income.

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<v Speaker 1>Women are more likely to lie about their age and

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<v Speaker 1>their weight. Men don't like it when we lie, We

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it when they lie. In fact, there was

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<v Speaker 1>research done a few years ago by the Kinsey Institute

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that the number one thing people hated

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<v Speaker 1>about online dating were the lies that people said in

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<v Speaker 1>their profiles, Because, just like you're pointing out, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you trust them with anything if the whole relationship begins

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<v Speaker 1>with a lie. So the answer is you bring it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't say you're a liar. We don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to call people names. You might say something like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really great getting to know you. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up something because it's kind of been on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. You know, in your profile you said you

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<v Speaker 1>were six feet tall, and you sure act it. You

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<v Speaker 1>got tall man energy, that's for sure. See a little

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<v Speaker 1>compliment there, Get that, and then say, but you're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wonder, like it makes me have a

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<v Speaker 1>weird feeling, like I wonder what else you could be

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<v Speaker 1>lying about, and just use this gentle conversation to open

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<v Speaker 1>the door to exploration. If he says, yeah, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew you wouldn't search for me if it

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<v Speaker 1>was that height, and I'm sorry. Okay. If he gets

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<v Speaker 1>defensive and angry about it, then you know he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough self confidence to have a healthy relationshipbody. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's all in the delivery, honey, all in the delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? When we come back, where are we going

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<v Speaker 1>after this? Ooh? There is one thing that breaks up

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<v Speaker 1>relationships more than anything else, and I know it's my kombucha,

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<v Speaker 1>my throat. I know you're thinking it's sex and money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something else. When we come back, you are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people break up for all kinds of reasons. Often it

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with money and sex, right, financial problems,

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<v Speaker 1>or which is not sexually compatible, I'm not attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>him anymore or her anymore or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, if you think those are the

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<v Speaker 1>only two reasons that people most often break up or cheating, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it really is. It's boredom. Boredom people

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<v Speaker 1>get bored. I've said it one hundred thousand times. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it again. When till Death Do us part was invented,

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<v Speaker 1>death was pretty imminent because of our very long life expectancies,

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<v Speaker 1>of monogamy in our life. Now, don'ty mail, don't call me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been married thirty forty years, good for you. You

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<v Speaker 1>are the minority, and I'm very proud of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you are lucky enough to both have a secure

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<v Speaker 1>attachment style and have those exciting, lustful chemicals for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. Good for you, that's great. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>us have to do a little bit of work. There

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<v Speaker 1>are all kinds of reasons for staying together in a

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<v Speaker 1>long term relationship, like making an intellectual decision to stay together.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've got kids in the nest. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>research out there to say that staying together for the

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<v Speaker 1>kids is actually a really good idea for the kids. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and aren't they you? They're your genes, right. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>good reason to stick it out. The other reason is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're facing an empty nest or have experienced an

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<v Speaker 1>empty neest recently, and now it's time for you to

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<v Speaker 1>repurpose your boring relationship. Maybe it's time for you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>to rewrite your relationship contract. I think boredom is the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy of love. So let's talk about ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get out of your funk, get out of your

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<v Speaker 1>boring relationship without stepping out on your person, without threatening

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship. Number one, remember why you're there, Remember your goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships aren't about individual pleasure, they're what the relationship can

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<v Speaker 1>actually re seing these kids, et cetera. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have just stopped being kind to each other, then

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<v Speaker 1>there's something else going on that you need to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to rewrite the script and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to plan for a new goal, like what's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say this, if you've bored in

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship, I don't care if you've been together two

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<v Speaker 1>years or twenty years. You need to be together to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the connection. And when I say be together, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just mean stop traveling so much on business, stop

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<v Speaker 1>going to see your families, come home to your person.

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<v Speaker 1>I also mean when you're in the same house, spend

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<v Speaker 1>more time in the same room. Spend more time in

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<v Speaker 1>the same share you see. When you're struggling to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional connection with somebody, it's really common for people

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<v Speaker 1>to literally end up in different rooms, watching TV, playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the computer, whatever. So my personal advice is try

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some time every evening being together. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are watching TV, okay, fine, but wrap your legs around

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<v Speaker 1>If one partner has work to do, bring your work

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<v Speaker 1>into the same room, be in each other's space so

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<v Speaker 1>you can break down the walls of silence so you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to reconnect. Now, I also have three little

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of advice that you're going to find I hope interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They go like this. Treat your partner like a stranger,

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<v Speaker 1>Treat your partner like an intimate, and treat your partner

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<v Speaker 1>like a baby. Let me explain. Treat your partner like

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<v Speaker 1>you would treat a stranger in your home. Say good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>say good night, ask them how they are, say please

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<v Speaker 1>pass the thank you very much, give them the respect

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<v Speaker 1>that you would give a house guest. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>are rolling your eyes when you heard me say that,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you have to do that for whom? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If remember water what you want to grow in your garden,

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<v Speaker 1>don't water the weeds. So treat them like a stranger

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<v Speaker 1>in your house, just like a house guest. Okay. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, treat them like they're an intimate. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've been using pet names in the past, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to that. Hey, love, how you doing, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my sweetie, oh my little schnooky whatever you called

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<v Speaker 1>him or her, I don't care. Get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>pet names, be intimate, and treat them like a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, emotional intimacy is really a contract that says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be your mommy if you'll be mine. In our

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<v Speaker 1>most intimate state, when we're the most vulnerable, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>we do our soft, little baby talk. Your living room

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<v Speaker 1>should not not sound like a boardroom or a boring room.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're bored in your relationship, get back to the cutesy,

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<v Speaker 1>cuddly days, the early days. I've said this before, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say it again. Catch your partner being good

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<v Speaker 1>more often than you catch them being bad. You get

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<v Speaker 1>more flies with honey. If you are being critical all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, who wants to be around you. Catch them

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<v Speaker 1>being good. Look for positive behavior, comment on it instead

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<v Speaker 1>of always criticizing what you don't like. Remember it is

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<v Speaker 1>not your job to change anybody. It is your job

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<v Speaker 1>to change your reaction to their behavior. And Finally, two

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<v Speaker 1>things that the research supports like crazy for long term,

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<v Speaker 1>happy monogamous couples. One those who remember when stay together

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. Nostalgia is the superpower of

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<v Speaker 1>long term lovers. Pull out pictures, photo albums, videos, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about places you've been, talk about the early days when

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<v Speaker 1>you fell in love. Keep that nostalgia alive. But having

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<v Speaker 1>said that, don't just live in the past. Create some novelty.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are bored in your relationship, then you're a

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<v Speaker 1>boring person. Get that partner out into something exciting in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Whether it is a new sport you take

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<v Speaker 1>up together, a new hobby, whether it's a new place

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<v Speaker 1>you travel to. Just get out there and put your

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<v Speaker 1>partner in a different light, in a different setting, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will look new and novel to you. Literally, create

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<v Speaker 1>novelty all the time in your relationship, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get bored, all right, when we come back. The worst

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<v Speaker 1>piece of relationship advice ever, and yet people give this

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<v Speaker 1>advice all the time. It's the worst. I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it when we come back. You're listening to the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six forty. We're live

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, welcome back to the home stretch of the Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy Walls Show. I am doctor Wendy Walsh. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for you every Sunday from seven to nine pm.

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<v Speaker 1>And my sweet spot is the science of love. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people like to give relationship advice. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go on to social media. There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>so called relationship experts. There are so many dating coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>There are lots of therapists as well. Listen to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>if they're a licensed therapist. I will say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's there is one piece of advice that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to share with you in a minute, and I hear

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. Before I tell you what that

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<v Speaker 1>advice is, I have to tell you a little story

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, because I keep talking about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>got Mary, Yeah, a little over a month ago now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found my wedding to be completely happy, contentment, excitement,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much because of my new husband there, but

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<v Speaker 1>because I had friends and family member members literally from

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of my life, my brothers to where

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<v Speaker 1>I am now, colleagues and every friend and stage of

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<v Speaker 1>life friend in between. And when I got them all

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<v Speaker 1>in one room, big party, dancing, and every time I

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<v Speaker 1>turned my head and looked one direction or another, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody I loved for one reason or another, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt complete. You see, it is in the presence of

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<v Speaker 1>another person where you realize who you really are. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the big bad relationship advice that I hear all

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<v Speaker 1>the time touted on the internet. It is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to spend some time I'm alone. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to grow and heal before you can enter a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to know who you are and learn to

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<v Speaker 1>be strong. All right, here's what alone time is. It

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<v Speaker 1>is avoiding. You can't go sit on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain and meditate every day and come back with

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<v Speaker 1>better relationship skills because you haven't had a gymnasium of

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<v Speaker 1>the mind a relationship to work out with. Right In

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<v Speaker 1>some ways, alone time is selfish time. You're not growing,

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<v Speaker 1>You're just taking care of your own needs. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to Julio was away this week. He was in New

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<v Speaker 1>York at a funeral, and I decided to pamper myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a massage, got a manicure, when worked out,

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<v Speaker 1>did La pilates. One night, I walked to a five

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<v Speaker 1>star restaurant, no restaurants to go put the stars like

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<v Speaker 1>that three star restaurant and ordered take out like a

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<v Speaker 1>super expensive stake, just ta get home and drank it.

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<v Speaker 1>With a glass of sh campaign. But myself it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow, I didn't become a better person, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>learn any relationship skills there. I just had some selfish time.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, we can't grow unless we have someone to

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<v Speaker 1>bounce ourselves off of. Hey. One of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>solitary confinement in our prison system is so dangerous, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's quite a movement on to try to get it

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<v Speaker 1>completely removed as severe human torture is because during those

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<v Speaker 1>days and weeks and months of solitary confinement, the mental

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<v Speaker 1>illness comes because we lose a part of ourselves. We

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<v Speaker 1>forget who we are if it's not in relation to others.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one reason that romantic breakups are so difficult

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<v Speaker 1>is that we lose a part of our identity. Our

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<v Speaker 1>relationships are not hard boundaries, they're blurry parts of us

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<v Speaker 1>where we bleed onto others. We choose the people around

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<v Speaker 1>us who reflect the best parts of us. I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I do want to say one little exception.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be remiss if I did not say this

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<v Speaker 1>one exception. I think it is really bad relationship advice

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<v Speaker 1>to say that somebody must spend time alone to grow

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<v Speaker 1>and heal before they enter a relationship unless they're recovering

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<v Speaker 1>from addiction. Very clearly, you shouldn't have a relationship for

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<v Speaker 1>a year you need because relationships are just so triggering,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's hard work and you don't want to run

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<v Speaker 1>back to whatever substance you've used for your feelings and

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<v Speaker 1>j LO, if you're listening, I think you should spend

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<v Speaker 1>some time alone. I don't know the woman, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what her attachment style is, but there are people

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<v Speaker 1>out there who might have an anxious attachment style who

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<v Speaker 1>quickly become enmeshed, and they go from one relation to

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<v Speaker 1>which another, trying to hope to find feelings of security

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<v Speaker 1>that just aren't always there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite quotes I read recently is with

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<v Speaker 1>the famous therapist Esther Perrell, and she says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when a person feels challenged by a relationship, they might

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<v Speaker 1>want to step back, saying they need to create more

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries or that they're being triggered. But Esther Perrell says

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<v Speaker 1>tension is actually a sign of a potentially healthy partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>is something to work with, right So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>right now, there's a little bit of selfishness out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. We talk about self awareness, self realization,

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<v Speaker 1>self fulfillment, self care, my self image. How about we

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to think about the other. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>you learn to build a healthy relationship. And on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you light and love with all your relationships

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Remember I'm always here for you every Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>from seven to nine pm. You can also follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on my social media. The handle is at doctor Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>Walsh and you can also join my Patreon, which is

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<v Speaker 1>fun patreon dot com slash doctor Wendy Walsh. We do

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<v Speaker 1>assume every Wednesday at six o'clock. A lot of KFI

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<v Speaker 1>listeners on there. It's a fun little Group's not therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like a book group. What are we talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a book though. We just talk about relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun anyway. Good to see you, Nice to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. I'll see you next Sunday. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show on KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Doctor Wendy Walsh. You can always hear us live

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<v Speaker 1>on KFI AM six forty from seven to nine pm

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
