Speaker 1: I made a decision pay sunny sun on. I had
a vision night.
Speaker 2: What's up everybody, Hey.
Speaker 3: For crying out loud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking about off the air house.
We're both on jury duty almost well, I am this
week jury.
Speaker 3: Duty next week, which is such a weird coincid.
Speaker 4: That's so weird.
Speaker 3: So I had gotten my jury notice and then I
was like, oh no, it's really hard with teaching. So
I went in and it was so easy to postpone it,
and then you could pick a date and I was like, well,
let me just do it as soon as my classes.
Speaker 4: Are over for the month and they following week. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I called last night. I didn't have to
go in today, but today's Monday. Even though you guys
are listening to this on Friday, so I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, called Sunday night or you called Friday. I
called Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, and then you have to call every
night every.
Speaker 4: Night after six o'clock. Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: I would you know.
Speaker 2: It sounds good like I loved it, But then last
night I was thinking about it. I'm like, oh, fuck,
what if I get called tomorrow then I can't do
the podcast and I'm thinking, oh, probably not gonna get called.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling they don't do a lot of
cases this close to the holidays.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: It's December, safe bet Yeah, like because when or even
if I got called in, when would the trial start there?
To do a trial on Christmas week?
Speaker 4: That's true, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think December is a better Yeah, but then
I kind of do want to get called.
Speaker 3: I know, think of the stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like they wouldn't, Like, if you're a podcaster, they're
not gonna want you on a trial. Oh that's true,
unless I guess you'd have to promise you won't. They'd
have to have somebody listening to your podcast making sure
you're not maybe the case.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could get like called on like
Blake Lively's trial.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like why can't we?
Speaker 2: I know, now in LA. I don't think that's going
to be in LA. Actually I think it's in New
York and it's it's three months away coming up. But
I don't think we're getting called for that.
Speaker 3: Listen, you gotta call them and just say, hey, I'm
willing to relocate yeah, for this trial. Yeah, listen, I'm
a jury of her peer in a way, like I
know a lot about her just from like reading.
Speaker 2: Right, that's gonna be a good trial. I can't wait
for that. That's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: Is it going to be televised?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think. I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 2: So maybe we follow along or maybe it would be
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Because it's my.
Speaker 4: Friend from I'm not going to answer it, but it's
my friend from your phone's right, Okay, it's Susan, Susan
from Patreon. Yeah, calling to tell me like probably like
what she decided?
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay, yeah, I'd love to find out.
Speaker 3: You have to listen to the Patreon. Do you know
what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what she decided. So okay,
So you haven't been on a jury, right, No, Okay,
I was. I was in involved in a court case
where I got to sit in and watch people get
up on the stand who are suing us.
Speaker 4: What didn't that feel like? It was awesome?
Speaker 2: Well, because if you have Mark Garrigos on your side,
who's representing you. I'm talking about when Adam was getting
sued by his classmate Donnie and his wife. And so
if you have Garagos on your side, who walks through
the Los Angeles Courthouse like he owns the place. Oh,
come over here, coming to this judge's chamber, Come meet
Judge Thompson over here. Oh have you met the Corollas,
like walks in like he owns the place.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It felt good, and.
Speaker 2: The day came, so I you know, Adam was up
on the stand, and then Donnie got up on the stand,
and then the day that his wife was going to
get up on the stand was the day they folded
and settled.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, I.
Speaker 2: Was so looking forward to garre Go's having her up
on the stand.
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, so they can do that, you can
do that mid trial. Yeah, they be like, I don't
like the way this is going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, they decided mid trial that
they were.
Speaker 3: Once you decide, I mean I'm not I'm being educated
right now, because I would think once you're like, no,
I'm not going to settle, I'm going to trial. Like
once you started, they start investing money in a trial.
It's like you can't just.
Speaker 2: Be like, oh, I think the lawyers always are in
touch trying to come up with you know, a deal
here or there. You know, like you know, are you
willing to settle, you know, or you want to continue
with the trial kind of thing. But yeah, they they
waited till the day that she was getting up and
they decided to settle.
Speaker 3: Feel like, if you're if you are thinking it's not
going well for you, like you shouldn't be able to
still take an offer that might have been high, you
know what I mean, Like, Okay, you're like I don't
really like that offer. I think we could do better
if we go to trial, But I feel like your
side should be able to go well, not so fast, right,
that's not that offer doesn't stand anymore.
Speaker 4: You can take this offer, if I.
Speaker 2: Remember correctly, the judge was pushing for it to settle,
I think, and then had the attorneys come in that
day and discuss a settlement because I yeah, because there
was there was juror, there was jurors there and everything.
There's one guy I'll never forget is falling asleep the
whole time. He was asleep the whole time. I'm like,
how is that possible? Like could somebody wake them up?
You know, like give them some coffee, slept the whole time.
Really wasn't paying attention. Yeah, because's just nodding off, bark
and tell them the d I think they did or something.
But I just remember that one juror was like falling asleep.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I know.
Speaker 3: How do they not flag that when you're coming out
of the jury pool. It's not that easy to get
chosen for a jury, right, that's fit.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You may think you might think like, oh, if I'm
called for jury duty, that's it.
Speaker 4: I'm on a jury. No, they got to do jury selection. Yeah,
not like your face.
Speaker 3: YEA might not like what you have to say, Like, right,
maybe remember when I was on a jury, I had
to sell myself.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I was just like, listen, I know I look very pregnant,
but I'm not actually due. I'm just yeah, I was
seven and a half months pregnant. And they were like,
the trial is only going to be a week. I'm like,
I got nothing but time. I am not working, I
have no kids except for the one that's coming.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 3: I've got no pet like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, put me in coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then they did. Yeah. Yeah, there were anybody that
was like, no, I really don't feel like it.
Speaker 2: They were like bye, right right right, yeah, well hopefully
And that guy who.
Speaker 3: Was falling asleep was like, yeah, I got no other
plans except for naps.
Speaker 4: Naps.
Speaker 2: No, I mean maybe they did complain. I don't remember,
but I do remember him like falling, nodding.
Speaker 4: Off a lot, a lot.
Speaker 3: Now, were you going to be uh a witness too? No,
so you got deposed. I got deposed. You never were
going to be called up there?
Speaker 2: No, That's how I was able to sit. I was
going to okay into the court watch everything. Yeah, yeah,
because otherwise parts I can't remember. Well, there was just
the exciting ones was when seeing Gear goes up there,
you know, grilling Donny Donnie, Yeah, and his cousin Sandy,
and you know, those were that was exciting. And like
writing notes and stuff like to pass to his assistant,
to pass to him, you know kind of thing like
that was that was good.
Speaker 4: That was fun.
Speaker 3: Do you guys get to strategize. Did you get included
in strategizing with Mark?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Backstory and oh yeah, I mean I was, I was
really involved. I was the one that was digging up
all the emails and things telling him about this and
that and you know what about that, and they did that,
you know, all these finding all the evidence for them,
preparing for the trial.
Speaker 4: You know, that was fun. It was really interesting. I
learned a lot. It was. It was it took years
though to get to trial, but.
Speaker 2: We went so yeah, and then and then they settled
and then and then as soon as it was over,
Adam left and I hung out with Garags and the
team went across the street to his restaurant and celebrated,
celebrated that it was over right, you know, yeah, so
excuse me. Yeah, So that was fun. So now I
don't know, that's the only courtroom I've ever been in.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, And I've told you many times about that
jury that I did.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. It was pretty fun, was it.
Speaker 3: There were definitely boring parts, and people were really irritating me.
The other people on the jury sucked, except for there
was me and one girl who were like into it
and like having theories and like you know, actually going
I mean like I'm not saying we weren't doing that
until we were deliberating. But when we went into deliberate,
I was like, oh my god, most of these people
are so aggressively dumb, like either didn't listen, did not
understand any of the instructions, were coming up with like
crazy theories that I was like, no, nobody introduced that theory, right,
Like what are you talking about? Like, oh, well, I
wonder if this happened. And it's like, but that's not
even something that defense is trying to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're not supposed to consider them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not supposed to consider all that. You just
have to consider that what they give you the instructions
to go in and come up with the case.
Speaker 4: My case was that a guy was drunk driving.
Speaker 3: He hit a car and then he got out of
the car and there were, you know, some other cars
involved in the accident, and he was drunk, so he
was yelling at everybody and he was like, I'm gonna
go get my gun and uh, I'm gonna kill everybody. Wow,
that's felony threats. Okay, he didn't have a gun, but
apparently that doesn't matter. Like if you're yelling, like, if
you're threatening people's lives, that's called the felony threat. So
that's what he was and he did. He was We
did find him guilty, but here's the thing. His defense
attorney was like, Okay, was trying to say that he
wasn't driving the car. They were trying to get him
off of the drunk driving, which was like the most
obvious part of the case was that he was drunk driving.
They bring him in. I think they showed us like
video of when he was getting when he was in
the police station, he was clearly drunk. They gave him
like a breathalyzer, he you know whatever. He wasn't going
to get away with like not having a DUI, right,
But that's what the defense was focused on. My thing was, like,
what they should focus on is the fact that they
were trying to say grave bodily injury because one woman
heard her set her finger hurt. First of all, he
didn't actually caught like in the accident. There were no injuries,
but one of the women was upset, which I get,
I understand, and went to the hospital and they were like,
you have no zero injuries, so they gave her a xanax,
Like okay, and that's what ended up. You had to
find guilty because they weren't contesting that part. So what
they would the defense was contesting was that they were
saying that he wasn't driving the car. Well, he was
found the police came over. Airbags had deployed, stuck in
the car with airbags, and like the door was kind
of crushed in, so.
Speaker 2: To who else would have been driving the car? They
didn't give you another while.
Speaker 3: They said their thing was they said that it's possible
that somebody else who was in the car that was
driving ran away, and that this guy took the fall
for that guy who ran away.
Speaker 4: Ye see.
Speaker 3: So some people though, were like coming up with extra theories,
like what em somebody like off the street came in
not even making this up. Me and the other girl
were like, what right are you talking about? And they
were like, first of all, their own theories is stupid.
Why would somebody take credit take credit for it the accident?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Take old Boddy that a car with this guy is
going to be like I got this get out, I'm
gonna come in through the dented door, fit myself in
with the airbags and nobody noticed it. Like the defense
is smoking something, right, yeah, but why are you going
like what if just somebody off this Like I was like,
that's not in the instruction make up news stories, right, right,
it was so And that's the part that got really
irritating is you're like, we really could have wrapped this
up in a day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how long did you guys deliberate?
Speaker 3: I feel like the deliberation went on for like three days. Wow,
maybe two full days, but like honestly could have been
done in an hour.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People thought they were like on a TV.
Speaker 4: Show, right, try to solve the mystery.
Speaker 3: Yes, they were like, well they're going to bring us lunch. Okay,
we don't need lunch.
Speaker 2: We could just right, Oh my gosh, oh god.
Speaker 3: It was fun like listening to I was this was
way before like true crime. Yeah right, No, I mean
this is when I was pregnant with ELB so this
was like twenty one years ago. I do remember just
being like, oh, this is so fascinating during the defense,
like what's thirt and I was like, oh my god,
this is horrible. Right, it needs a better defense attorney, right,
And then I was the woman who was like needed
a xanax, you know, I was just like, oh my god, fuck,
this bit fine.
Speaker 4: How long did it go? Like was it a week?
Speaker 3: It was like I want to say it was like
four days. I think I got out of there in
a week, so it was like four days of the
trial and then like two days of delibering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, deliberating, right right, Wow, that's so cool. Though.
Speaker 4: I want to get on a trial, I know.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, don't be too sad if
like you get called no. I know.
Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking maybe I should have pushed it till
after until in like January February.
Speaker 3: I know you would have probably had a better chance. Yeah, oh,
think of all the material. I know, I know, had
you fucked up, you should have should with me like
a jury consultant.
Speaker 4: I know I should. I didn't even think about it,
But you're right.
Speaker 3: And I remember Mark Gerago's telling us that we'd be
the worst, the worst people. There's nightmare right, white women, Right,
that's right.
Speaker 4: I remember him saying that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we don't want you on on the jury.
Speaker 4: What I like, I want to be onres Like we.
Speaker 3: Don't want you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so is she the She is definitely on
the legal team.
Speaker 2: She was his Yeah, is one of his main lawyers.
She did a lot of the questioning of the witnesses
on the stand. He had mark Anifilo was one, and
then Tenny Gergos, which is Garrigos's daughter as another one
of his defense He had like, I don't know six
of them, but she was one of the main people.
Speaker 4: And I saw her in the dock too.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well, speaking of this is a very good
connection because speaking of of jurors, Yeah, the worst part
of the documentary, you got to admit was the interview.
Speaker 4: With the jurors, right, yes, yes, Like what a couple
of fucking idiots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have this TikTok, but I've got to
play it for you. So this is a this is
a like a little satire.
Speaker 4: Glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is the juror from the New
Diddy documentary. This is a TikTok.
Speaker 4: Ready, I mean going in now.
Speaker 5: I was not a fan by any stretch of the
measure of his music. I used to stay home from
school and watch making the band. I'm not saying that
we we were kind of kindred spirits or anything like that.
It was just like we would make eye contact, which
the same way you wouldn't make eye contact with anyone
that you're friends with. In a room, someone says something crazy,
what was it? Capricorn Clark? Capricorn Clark with no spark,
And that's what I used to say, I mean in
my head, just because she cried so much, like.
Speaker 4: She was just like so, I mean, oh my god.
Speaker 5: I don't think there was any bias at all.
Speaker 4: That's so true, so true.
Speaker 3: That was The person was like, yeah, I mean I've
always been a fan of P Diddy, I mean who
Rights And it's like incredible, Like I grew up on
like P Diddy.
Speaker 2: Gaming all these bands too that nobody's ever heard of
on bad Boy, Like oh, I was a big fan
of Big Soul or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like who know Who's Who's that? Like never heard of
that band?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: If they were like deep deep, yeah, I chose, I know,
how does that happen?
Speaker 4: Like I just don't get it?
Speaker 3: And then well, you know, I who was like yes,
you know relationships, you know, I mean she kept going
back to him, like about Cassie. He's like, you know,
that's love and that is he gonna do. Like, hey,
and if you want like all the nice things, if
you he literally said, like, if you want all the
luxury or whatever, that's kind of part of the deal.
Speaker 4: Right, you can't have both. I know.
Speaker 2: It's so it was insane like that that part four,
So there's four parts. Like Part four was just you know,
a lot of the stuff we kind of already heard about,
the women and stuff. But the fascinating part of that
documentary was the fact that fucking he did he fucking
killed Tupac, I know, straight up, straight up like try
first of all, shot him up five times, and then
when he didn't kill him, then he puts out that
track that's why fucked Joe bitch that hit him up track,
and then fucking takes him out in Vegas like pays
for the crips or the security guy, Like there's like.
Speaker 4: Paid them to fucking take out Tupac.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then kind of fucking took his best friend,
supposedly best friend, Biggie Small's into the lion Den of
Los Angeles when you know he wanted to leave and
go to London and he was like, no, cancel the trip,
Like did that was kind of suspicious to me, Like
did he know it was coming or like yes he did.
Speaker 3: And then he puts out that I'll be missing you,
acting like oh my god, Biggie's my best.
Speaker 4: Friend, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And the funeral by the way, like I'm a bad boy,
Record's gonna pay for the biggest funeral Queen's has ever seen. Meanwhile,
he fucking Bill's Biggie's estate like makes him and his estate.
Speaker 4: Pay for it. Yes, unllelievable.
Speaker 2: So many things that this fucking shit bag of a
guy that did, starting with the trampling of people, nine
people dying in that concert, to the shooting in the
nightclub with j Lo and having that guy take the
fall for it for ten years.
Speaker 3: How about the other guy though that he killed, Remember
when it was like I forgot his name little Like
let's call him like little.
Speaker 4: Rog for something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the guy that was being the producer that
he had producing justin Bieber songs and all these people's
tracks when Diddy was like, yeah, I don't know, this
is the sound I want and then that guy did
it like lil rell right, right, right, and then he
was drugging that guy and raping it, I know. And
then that guy, remember, was a witness to the fact
that Diddy and another guy killed.
Speaker 4: A guy right in the studio. Studio of right.
Speaker 3: We got to stop the bleeding and call the paramedics,
and Diddy was like, didn't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. This guy, How
does he fucking get away with all this shit?
Speaker 3: I feel, man, this is like crazy, it is.
Speaker 4: It is like the moth. He got away with this.
Speaker 3: He's hardly spending any any time in.
Speaker 4: Jail, I know.
Speaker 2: And it was just it's so it was just so
interesting though, I mean, just that whole And also, by
the way, bad boy entertainment for like East Coast, West Coast,
you know, at least on the West coast, you got
like Tupac, you got.
Speaker 4: Dre, you got Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2: Like bad Boy entertainment, they really didn't have that big
Maybe they were bigger and I didn't know it because
I grew up on the West Coast, but a lot
of their artists were not that big main he I
feel like Diddy became mainstream after Biggie died. After that
that sting song you know, I'll be missing you and stuff.
Speaker 4: Right, He like.
Speaker 2: Became ultra famous off of the back of his best
friend like that, he fucking led to his death just.
Speaker 3: So, as Tupac pointed out too, he did. He would
just wanted to be up in other people's songs. Oh yeah,
like yeah, I'm gonna I'll be singing in this one
and doing the main dancing right, doing the video, and
they'd be like.
Speaker 4: What why right right?
Speaker 2: You saw when Sug Knight said that at the award
show and he was like, if you guys want a
real producer, come to the West Coast.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to be in your video.
Speaker 2: It's all up in your videos and dancing and your videos.
It was the best. Yeah, it's crazy. And and Shug
Knights in jail. I don't know why, well he probably
should be in jail.
Speaker 3: But well that's the problem is there kind of kind
of weren't heroes in this story because like, like you
and I were Tupac fans, like, and you want to
be like, yeah, fuck that, like Tupac did nothing wrong,
but then if you look, yeah.
Speaker 4: Kind of did a lot yeah, like right right.
Speaker 3: A lot of sexual assault going on with Tupac and
then obviously Shug Knight has.
Speaker 4: Killed people, like yeah, there's there's nobody to read.
Speaker 2: No, But at the same but like, how did Puff
Daddy like get out of it all unscathed, like just unbelievable,
worst like and still pretty much unscathed criminal enterprise?
Speaker 3: And how did all these women? Hu did all these people,
you know, against their own fear come out and testify
against him and like they're not protected that he is
going to be out of jail. I know that Ricorn, right,
that stupid jergo. Yeah, yeah, she was just like so emotional.
It's like, what the fuck do I know? He kidnapped her?
Speaker 4: Right? They said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that juror said that she was incredible because of
because she was too emotional, Like what is that?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, these were the jurors, you know, like this unbelievable.
Speaker 4: It just didn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Oh, and that one jurs like, oh, you know he
always he was always nodding his head. That was his thing,
Like he just nodded his head all the time, you know,
and he's making eye contact with the jurors and nodding
his head.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's his thing. He did it on making
the band all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the woman I'm pretty sure she
say that was the one that was like, yeah, of course,
I was like exchanging looks with him because we were
like this is so crazy, right, this witness is like
their mine, like crazy.
Speaker 4: I just don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine being like like being Cassie taking the
stand and seeing a juror like exchanging looks with he?
Speaker 4: Did he?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: And what I mean?
Speaker 2: I know it's she was nineteen. She was like Natalia's age. Yeah,
when she started working with Diddy, nineteen. It's poor girl.
The trauma that she I mean, it's just it's terrible.
I just don't understand. Like, I know, he's got all
these others, so the lawsuits against him and stuff, but
there's got to be like, how is he not responsible
for the death of.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing in the civil lawsuits, you know. Yeah,
there's like seventy seven pending or something. But that's just money. Yeah,
he can just not pay it. It's going to be
jail time. No, he needs to be in jail for
long ass time.
Speaker 2: And there's a guy that's going to go What are
the guys that was talking under cover. I think that
it's said it at the end of the episode that
he's going to be on trial in of twenty twenty
five for the murder of Tupac. But why him and
not how does that happen? Like who paid him? Why
don't they follow the money?
Speaker 3: Well, then maybe that guy will be saying implicating Diddy,
which he did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. We can't ask our friend Geragos
about it.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Another thing that I watched is and I did we
talk about this last week? The beast in me?
Speaker 4: Did we tell I told you to watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Watching it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then okay, I know you're going to be with
me on this, but maybe not. Sometimes you understand stuff
better than I do, but only like a couple episodes in,
I was like, you lost me. I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's this industries and there and they're with it. There's
too many, too many side stories.
Speaker 3: But also the side stories are things I don't understand
about finances and this way running for office and this
person wants to stop this person from running.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all this money and then the guy the
main guy who's being accused of murdering his wife his dad.
I'm like, I know, is the dad bad? Is the
brother dad who's I don't even fucking know who's bad.
I'm like all I care about is like I guess
the Claire Danes story. So I get to episode six
and I had a moment where I was like, you
know what, life is too short. I don't give a fuck.
I'm barely hanging on to like understanding. And I was like,
you know what, though, it's one of those ones where
they're you're not going to find out everything until the end.
So I was like, I'm just gonna google it what
happens at the end. It saved me a good few hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't need to watch it. And I read
it and I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: I knows, so whatd I didn't watch?
Speaker 4: Yes, you didn't need I know.
Speaker 2: I saw it through because I was like, okay, first
of all, there was nothing else on. This was when
I was sick with the flu, and I just finished
it and I was like, okay, it was like it
didn't I didn't care enough about the characters.
Speaker 4: I really didn't. It just didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was too much in the weeds of all
these other side stories, I felt the same way of
did you watch it's all her fault on Peacock? No oh,
you haven't seen that? No Oh that's another one.
Speaker 3: Wow, got it? But you felt the same way.
Speaker 4: I kind of felt the same way.
Speaker 2: That one is a little campy too, but it's it's
based on a book, which is you know, always oh,
pretty good. But I don't want to spoil it that
you got to you gotta watch it. It's with the
sister Sarah Snook is her name she was in Yeah, yeah,
she's She's the star of it.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen something with her in it recently.
It's on Peacock. It's like eight episodes.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I don't have Peacock, but I guess like
it's probably on Amazon probably yeah, yeah, okay, yeah did
you So?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll watch that. I need some stuff to watch.
I know I've been going on Netflix. So Netflix and
HBO are together now, right. I noticed that it tricks
you because they show you old stuff. Yes, it's been
out for years, but they're like, we have the now
on Netflix, and you're like, have I ever seen Love
and Death right? Looks like that's what we were.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I watched Love and Death yesterday and I
was like, so I started watching it, it said, you know,
fans a true crime will like it. So then I
started the first episode and the name Candy Montgomery sounded familiar.
August it was in June of nineteen eighty and then
I looked it up and it was based on the
true story of this best like church going housewive kills
her best friend with an axe, right, and there's like
cheating involved.
Speaker 4: And there was the Hulu show that Jessica Biel played.
Speaker 3: There were two shows at the same time. I believe
there was a documentary and there was a drama.
Speaker 4: I would rather watch the documentary.
Speaker 3: It reminded me of The Staircase because the Staircase did
the same thing at the same time. There was a
documentary and there was also a dramatization.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, yes, yeah, yes, but the Staircase was
really interesting and really good and it's like, who you know,
did he do it?
Speaker 4: Did he not do it?
Speaker 3: Right? Right?
Speaker 4: This one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I already saw this story with the Jessica
Beal story, I've never seen the doc I'd rather watch
the actual documentary to be honest.
Speaker 4: Same. So so then anyway, I was just watching it.
Speaker 2: I was falling asleep and then watching it and I
but you know, then I got to the end where
she went on trial, and that was interesting because I
feel like the other show didn't really show too much
of the trial. So then I watched the trial and
all I kept thinking is I have jury duty tomorrow.
I hope I get on a trial, right, Yeah. To
bring it back to what we were talking about, but yeah,
so I so I watched that.
Speaker 4: It doesn't need you don't.
Speaker 2: Need to watch it if you know the story, Like, yeah,
it's so, there's not much going on TV right now.
Speaker 3: I went on Netflix last night. I was like, I
really need to watch something. I'm trying to find my
little okay, and I started watching The Big C with
Laura Lenny. Now, I got to look this up. I
don't know what year this came out, but it is
old because Laura Lenny looks very young.
Speaker 4: And probably before Ozark, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 2: Uh when oh, I did meet a writer or a
creator of Ozark at Bill Simmons's party that somebody I
met Yeah. Oh yeah, did you guys talk for a
little bit. Yeah, not really about Ozark, but I was
introduced to him. Yeah creator, I think co creator.
Speaker 3: Really Yeah, that's exciting.
Speaker 4: I know that was really interesting. Yeah it was good.
Speaker 3: Now, that was a really good show that you could
follow along.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love Ozark.
Speaker 3: You can't you can really watch, but like you could understand,
like who were the who was the cartel?
Speaker 4: Yeah you watched Ozark?
Speaker 3: Gat you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yes's great.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was gonna go, You're gonna die like
this is so crazy, but no, this show, The Big
Sea came out in twenty ten. Wow, yes, right, that
is a long time ago. So that's a long ass
time ago. So Laura Lenny looked completely different like she
was young. So but you know, they advertise it like
you've never heard of this show before, brand new show.
It's called The Big Sea. So I started watching it
and it's it's cute, right, It's about a person who's
just been diagnosed with stage four metastatic melanoma. Okay, so
funny premise, right, right, right, But it's like a dramedy.
It's like a kind of a comedy.
Speaker 2: Isn't there another show like that that you were just
telling me to watch recently. It was based on the
past I'd get dying for sex.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to watch that.
Speaker 3: That's really really good. But this is like a cop
I don't know, but you know, spoiler alert. I guess
it's is it a spoiler alert? If it's not? Now, well,
I looked it up because I was like, well, this
is like, this is a good show. And I got
to like episode four, and then I had to google
how many seasons are there? Right, there's four seasons, but
season four only has a couple episodes. But I was like,
that is an investment of my time, right, And then
I was like, what happens at the end, because I'm like,
I don't want to get all the way into this.
And then she got like I need here to be
like a oh it was a false alarm.
Speaker 4: No, no, she's going to die at the end of it.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch this. I'm not doing that
to myself.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's too depressing, right yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4: I just feel like lately, with losing Peopo, I'm fine
most of the time, but do you ever find like,
I don't want to watch stuff that's going to make
me cry.
Speaker 3: Yes, to listen to stuff that's going to be really emotional,
because that's what's going to come up, and I feel
like I need escapist stuff. Not that I'm I felt,
don't worry, I felt everything. Yeah, I felt it leading up.
I felt it, but like I don't want.
Speaker 2: To No, I know, you want to have stuff that
gives you a little more levity. Yeah, yeah, of course, Yeah,
that's what housewives are for.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you remember because I listened to a lot of
our classic episodes so that I can post them. I
mean we used to really talk about housewives. Yeah, early
early days, and then people got mad.
Speaker 2: I know, I know I had the Housewives. So then
we stopped for a long time, a really long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were actively listening all the time. And
I remember that we would watch Beverly Hills and I
really hated Brandy, remember, Yes, and then she invited.
Speaker 4: You to be on her No either she came first
on ours.
Speaker 2: Did she come on out? Yeah, she did come on
on hers first. Okay, then we had her on our
podcast was a podcast.
Speaker 3: One thing was like oh Stephanie, Like, oh, I thought
you hate her, and I'm like, what are.
Speaker 4: You gonna do? Like punch your in the face? O god?
Speaker 3: And then remember people were like, oh, you were so
nice to her. You didn't like what am I?
Speaker 2: Hard news? Now it's sold ridiculous. Yeah, of course we're
gonna be nice, right right.
Speaker 4: Didn't you reach out to a house oh, Heather?
Speaker 3: I tried.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I DMed her, but she never reading well her loss. Listen.
Speaker 3: I I do love Heather de Bro and I watching
her on the show. But a lot of people say
that she's just not that nice.
Speaker 4: She doesn't seem very nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, Well I heard there was a well
they verified this rumor that she there was a housewife
in New York in Las Vegas during the Bravo con
that they all went. A bunch of housewives went to
New Kids on the Block concert and there was one
housewife that insisted on going backstage and was like, you
don't know who I am?
Speaker 4: Like hello, and they were like, no, we don't. You
don't have a past, can't go backstage?
Speaker 2: And it was Heather, Oh really, yes, Oh that's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you watch Andy Cohen on Call Her Daddy podcast? No,
I highly recommend it. It was really good. I just
love like Andy Cohen just seems so self aware and
he's just he had great stories about how he started,
how he became mister Bravo.
Speaker 4: It was really good.
Speaker 2: It was really good, interesting, And then she asked him
all kinds of questions like like round, like really like
like like rapid fire questions like who's the thirstiest thirstiest
housewives And he said Brittany from the Saltlake Housewives. If
you're not watching Salt like, that's the one that those
bitches are nuts. They get in, they get down and
dirty the.
Speaker 4: Salt Like, I know, I think I have to try
to watch that one. They're good.
Speaker 3: That sounds more interesting.
Speaker 2: Then there's so much better than Beverly Hills. It's like,
give me a break.
Speaker 3: I know, I really barely can watch Hills, and I
know I should watch I should watch that one.
Speaker 2: They're authentic, like their drama is authentic. It's not manufacturer
and like, you know, first half of the show they're like,
you know, hanging out at the beach and playing volleyball,
and then the second half is like drama.
Speaker 4: Now, this is like drama all the way through.
Speaker 2: Like they they they have real relationships, They get into
real messy situations, and there's a whole cast of characters.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know something funny that I that
I just thought of telling you? Okay, So this happened.
This happened kind of a while ago. But I was
getting botox at a person's house and there was a
woman there, and I feel like, I don't want to
say her name, but like, if you guys want to
message me, I'll tell you who it is. But so
this woman, very pretty super skinny, like says that she's
in entertainment, like an entertainment reporter maybe, like I don't know,
I don't know exactly like what show she's on, but
she's on something okay. And she was like saying that
she was asking me what I did or whatever, and
I said I had a podcast. Then she was like, oh,
like I used to have a podcast, but like it
didn't really make me enough money. We were chit chatting
and I was being really nice and I was offering
to like somehow she wanted me to consult with her
and tell her I was going to turn. I was like, well,
if you have a podcast, or if you're going to
have one, maybe I could introduce you to like the
person who does our ads or whatever. And then she
just kind of seemed a little bit fake. But like
I said, I talked to her for a long time
and something my problem is I will tend to seem
like I really like a person and yeah, like no,
I totally will help you, like yeah, no, you should
be making a lot of money, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then she hit me up and was like when
can we have lunch? Like I want to have lunch
with you, and I kind of blew her off. So
not that long ago, I was going through old episodes
of ours and I was like, holy shit, we had
her on our podcast. Oh my god, years ago, years ago.
And then I remembered, of course, I was like, oh
my god, she's somebody that podcast won forced on us.
And it was when she had her podcast and podcast
one was like we have this new person who has
a new podcast, and like, we really want to promote
her on your podcast, and I do remember that you
and I were like, well, she doesn't have this was
like early Caylen was like getting all the requests and
he was like, podcast one really wants you guys to
cross promote her. We were like, well, we're never going
to go on her podcast because it's brand new, Like
she has no listeners, so only thing we're doing is
helping her. So we agreed because we didn't want to
be argumentative with podcast one and she came on, and
do you remember that hurt that she was like, yeah,
I fired my housekeeper or whatever because she.
Speaker 2: She wasn't wearing shoes, And now I do, and I
was like what you did?
Speaker 3: What? And I remember kind of pushing back and being like,
but maybe she thought that was the polite thing to do.
I don't even think she was barefoot. I think she
just like took off her shoes like which a lot
of people do.
Speaker 4: And I remember she was.
Speaker 2: Like no, I don't like that. Yes, And then after
she left, we were like, what the fuck? What kind
of cunt is that?
Speaker 3: Like? Wow, yes, and we were so nice to her
during the show, but I feel like we said something
later We were like, yeah, we weren't like cool, no bitch.
Speaker 2: She was a bitch, and she did seem fake. I remember, yeah,
I don't know her. I can't remember her name.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you after we get off, but yeah, so
like and it's so funny because she's just a she's
like like a mom from kind of my neighborhood, right,
just think she's.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's so weird.
Speaker 3: So like thought of herself as this big celebrity and
that podcast she never ended up making money off that podcast.
Speaker 2: Shocking because she's not likable. She wasn't likable, and she
she was fake.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, I'm so glad
I never.
Speaker 4: And she didn't know that she was on your show.
Speaker 3: She did not remember. I had no memory of it.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 3: She was in person with us too.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I can understand you not.
Speaker 2: But for somebody that doesn't like was trying to do
podcasts and like probably only been on a handful of podcasts.
Maybe I don't know for sure, but you would think
she would be like, oh, I was on your unless
it was the different name of our show back then.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it was for crying out loud.
Speaker 4: It was okay because I only can't I can't see
the parent express Okay, okay, so it was you.
Speaker 3: Know, it was years ago, but it wasn't a million
years ago. It was back when we had like a
few more guests. That's crazy, not funny. That is so
funny if you want to know her name to you,
but you know, okay, yeah, wow, anyway, this was super fun. Yeah,
let's say you know what, let's go backwards. We only
have one business shout out, and that's our friend Adam Lerner.
Adam's got a cart a car, Tom, he got me
my ID four. He will he, I mean, he does
deals for all his friends, and he will treat you
like a friend. He will find as he does California.
You don't there's nothing to pay. He just will help
you and it doesn't matter. You can he can find
you a used car, you can find you a new car.
You can get you a lease. He does the financing,
but it makes it so easy. So Adam's got a
car dot com And then christis droop, and Stephanie's a
stinker rinker, and Sandra it's not easy being green, No,
but you do it. Jennifer get up, and Aaron's a
dirty Sanchez. And Leslie's coughing and coughing and coughing, and Alisha.
Speaker 2: Ascalante in the City of El Monte. And Kelly Bryant,
she's your aunt. And Rebecca Luvin he's so cute.
Speaker 3: And Sean is so hot, hot, hot hot, and still
a new dad.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's had another kid since then.
Speaker 4: I think he still has his one baby and.
Speaker 3: Missy and Gabby.
Speaker 4: Guys, girls, come.
Speaker 3: On Katerina and make sure you go to the dentist
regularly because you do not want what happened to me.
And it's this age.
Speaker 4: And check your hearing, yes.
Speaker 3: And Valerie Bubba Fenwick hits out of the park, and Polly,
we love your pancakes. And Rita rocks that basiete with
Elizabeth Williamson's kid in it. Nikky, call your girls, and
Dick is still frolicking and I love you guys. Thanks
everybody to your parent.
Speaker 4: Now don't f it up
Speaker 3: That angel