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Speaker 1: I made a decision pay sunny sun on. I had

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a vision night.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody, Hey.

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Speaker 3: For crying out loud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking about off the air house.

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We're both on jury duty almost well, I am this

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week jury.

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Speaker 3: Duty next week, which is such a weird coincid.

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Speaker 4: That's so weird.

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Speaker 3: So I had gotten my jury notice and then I

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was like, oh no, it's really hard with teaching. So

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I went in and it was so easy to postpone it,

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and then you could pick a date and I was like, well,

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let me just do it as soon as my classes.

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Speaker 4: Are over for the month and they following week. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I called last night. I didn't have to

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go in today, but today's Monday. Even though you guys

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are listening to this on Friday, so I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, called Sunday night or you called Friday. I

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called Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, and then you have to call every

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night every.

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Speaker 4: Night after six o'clock. Yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I would you know.

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Speaker 2: It sounds good like I loved it, But then last

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night I was thinking about it. I'm like, oh, fuck,

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what if I get called tomorrow then I can't do

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the podcast and I'm thinking, oh, probably not gonna get called.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling they don't do a lot of

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cases this close to the holidays.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: It's December, safe bet Yeah, like because when or even

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if I got called in, when would the trial start there?

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To do a trial on Christmas week?

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Speaker 4: That's true, That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think December is a better Yeah, but then

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I kind of do want to get called.

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Speaker 3: I know, think of the stories.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like they wouldn't, Like, if you're a podcaster, they're

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not gonna want you on a trial. Oh that's true,

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unless I guess you'd have to promise you won't. They'd

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have to have somebody listening to your podcast making sure

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you're not maybe the case.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could get like called on like

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Blake Lively's trial.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Like why can't we?

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Speaker 2: I know, now in LA. I don't think that's going

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to be in LA. Actually I think it's in New

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York and it's it's three months away coming up. But

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I don't think we're getting called for that.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you gotta call them and just say, hey, I'm

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willing to relocate yeah, for this trial. Yeah, listen, I'm

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a jury of her peer in a way, like I

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know a lot about her just from like reading.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's gonna be a good trial. I can't wait

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for that. That's gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Is it going to be televised?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think. I don't know. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we follow along or maybe it would be

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I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Because it's my.

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Speaker 4: Friend from I'm not going to answer it, but it's

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my friend from your phone's right, Okay, it's Susan, Susan

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from Patreon. Yeah, calling to tell me like probably like

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what she decided?

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Speaker 2: Oh interesting, okay, yeah, I'd love to find out.

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Speaker 3: You have to listen to the Patreon. Do you know

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what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what she decided. So okay,

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So you haven't been on a jury, right, No, Okay,

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I was. I was in involved in a court case

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where I got to sit in and watch people get

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up on the stand who are suing us.

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Speaker 4: What didn't that feel like? It was awesome?

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Speaker 2: Well, because if you have Mark Garrigos on your side,

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who's representing you. I'm talking about when Adam was getting

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sued by his classmate Donnie and his wife. And so

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if you have Garagos on your side, who walks through

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the Los Angeles Courthouse like he owns the place. Oh,

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come over here, coming to this judge's chamber, Come meet

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Judge Thompson over here. Oh have you met the Corollas,

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like walks in like he owns the place.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It felt good, and.

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Speaker 2: The day came, so I you know, Adam was up

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on the stand, and then Donnie got up on the stand,

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and then the day that his wife was going to

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get up on the stand was the day they folded

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and settled.

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Speaker 4: Oh I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Was so looking forward to garre Go's having her up

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Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, so they can do that, you can

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do that mid trial. Yeah, they be like, I don't

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like the way this is going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, they decided mid trial that

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Speaker 3: Once you decide, I mean I'm not I'm being educated

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right now, because I would think once you're like, no,

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I'm not going to settle, I'm going to trial. Like

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once you started, they start investing money in a trial.

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It's like you can't just.

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Speaker 2: Be like, oh, I think the lawyers always are in

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touch trying to come up with you know, a deal

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here or there. You know, like you know, are you

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willing to settle, you know, or you want to continue

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with the trial kind of thing. But yeah, they they

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waited till the day that she was getting up and

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they decided to settle.

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Speaker 3: Feel like, if you're if you are thinking it's not

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going well for you, like you shouldn't be able to

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still take an offer that might have been high, you

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know what I mean, Like, Okay, you're like I don't

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really like that offer. I think we could do better

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if we go to trial, But I feel like your

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side should be able to go well, not so fast, right,

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that's not that offer doesn't stand anymore.

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Speaker 4: You can take this offer, if I.

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Speaker 2: Remember correctly, the judge was pushing for it to settle,

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I think, and then had the attorneys come in that

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day and discuss a settlement because I yeah, because there

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was there was juror, there was jurors there and everything.

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There's one guy I'll never forget is falling asleep the

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whole time. He was asleep the whole time. I'm like,

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how is that possible? Like could somebody wake them up?

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and tell them the d I think they did or something.

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But I just remember that one juror was like falling asleep.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. I know.

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Speaker 3: How do they not flag that when you're coming out

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of the jury pool. It's not that easy to get

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chosen for a jury, right, that's fit.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You may think you might think like, oh, if I'm

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called for jury duty, that's it.

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Speaker 4: I'm on a jury. No, they got to do jury selection. Yeah,

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not like your face.

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Speaker 3: YEA might not like what you have to say, Like, right,

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maybe remember when I was on a jury, I had

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to sell myself.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, listen, I know I look very pregnant,

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but I'm not actually due. I'm just yeah, I was

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seven and a half months pregnant. And they were like,

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the trial is only going to be a week. I'm like,

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I got nothing but time. I am not working, I

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have no kids except for the one that's coming.

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Speaker 2: I'm in.

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Speaker 3: I've got no pet like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, put me in coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then they did. Yeah. Yeah, there were anybody that

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was like, no, I really don't feel like it.

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Speaker 2: They were like bye, right right right, yeah, well hopefully

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Speaker 3: Was falling asleep was like, yeah, I got no other

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plans except for naps.

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Speaker 4: Naps.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean maybe they did complain. I don't remember,

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but I do remember him like falling, nodding.

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Speaker 4: Off a lot, a lot.

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Speaker 3: Now, were you going to be uh a witness too? No,

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so you got deposed. I got deposed. You never were

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going to be called up there?

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Speaker 2: No, That's how I was able to sit. I was

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going to okay into the court watch everything. Yeah, yeah,

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because otherwise parts I can't remember. Well, there was just

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the exciting ones was when seeing Gear goes up there,

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you know, grilling Donny Donnie, Yeah, and his cousin Sandy,

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and you know, those were that was exciting. And like

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writing notes and stuff like to pass to his assistant,

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to pass to him, you know kind of thing like

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that was that was good.

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Speaker 4: That was fun.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys get to strategize. Did you get included

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in strategizing with Mark?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Backstory and oh yeah, I mean I was, I was

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really involved. I was the one that was digging up

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all the emails and things telling him about this and

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that and you know what about that, and they did that,

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you know, all these finding all the evidence for them,

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preparing for the trial.

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Speaker 4: You know, that was fun. It was really interesting. I

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learned a lot. It was. It was it took years

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though to get to trial, but.

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Speaker 2: We went so yeah, and then and then they settled

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and then and then as soon as it was over,

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Adam left and I hung out with Garags and the

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team went across the street to his restaurant and celebrated,

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celebrated that it was over right, you know, yeah, so

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excuse me. Yeah, So that was fun. So now I

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don't know, that's the only courtroom I've ever been in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, And I've told you many times about that

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jury that I did.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. It was pretty fun, was it.

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Speaker 3: There were definitely boring parts, and people were really irritating me.

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The other people on the jury sucked, except for there

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was me and one girl who were like into it

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and like having theories and like you know, actually going

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until we were deliberating. But when we went into deliberate,

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I was like, oh my god, most of these people

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are so aggressively dumb, like either didn't listen, did not

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understand any of the instructions, were coming up with like

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crazy theories that I was like, no, nobody introduced that theory, right,

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wonder if this happened. And it's like, but that's not

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even something that defense is trying to say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're not supposed to consider them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not supposed to consider all that. You just

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have to consider that what they give you the instructions

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to go in and come up with the case.

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Speaker 4: My case was that a guy was drunk driving.

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Speaker 3: He hit a car and then he got out of

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the car and there were, you know, some other cars

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involved in the accident, and he was drunk, so he

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was yelling at everybody and he was like, I'm gonna

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go get my gun and uh, I'm gonna kill everybody. Wow,

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that's felony threats. Okay, he didn't have a gun, but

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apparently that doesn't matter. Like if you're yelling, like, if

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you're threatening people's lives, that's called the felony threat. So

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that's what he was and he did. He was We

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did find him guilty, but here's the thing. His defense

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attorney was like, Okay, was trying to say that he

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wasn't driving the car. They were trying to get him

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off of the drunk driving, which was like the most

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obvious part of the case was that he was drunk driving.

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They bring him in. I think they showed us like

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video of when he was getting when he was in

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the police station, he was clearly drunk. They gave him

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like a breathalyzer, he you know whatever. He wasn't going

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to get away with like not having a DUI, right,

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what they should focus on is the fact that they

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were trying to say grave bodily injury because one woman

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heard her set her finger hurt. First of all, he

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didn't actually caught like in the accident. There were no injuries,

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but one of the women was upset, which I get,

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I understand, and went to the hospital and they were like,

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you have no zero injuries, so they gave her a xanax,

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Like okay, and that's what ended up. You had to

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find guilty because they weren't contesting that part. So what

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they would the defense was contesting was that they were

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saying that he wasn't driving the car. Well, he was

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found the police came over. Airbags had deployed, stuck in

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the car with airbags, and like the door was kind

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of crushed in, so.

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Speaker 2: To who else would have been driving the car? They

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didn't give you another while.

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Speaker 3: They said their thing was they said that it's possible

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that somebody else who was in the car that was

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driving ran away, and that this guy took the fall

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for that guy who ran away.

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Speaker 4: Ye see.

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Speaker 3: So some people though, were like coming up with extra theories,

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like what em somebody like off the street came in

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not even making this up. Me and the other girl

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were like, what right are you talking about? And they

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were like, first of all, their own theories is stupid.

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Why would somebody take credit take credit for it the accident?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Take old Boddy that a car with this guy is

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going to be like I got this get out, I'm

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gonna come in through the dented door, fit myself in

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with the airbags and nobody noticed it. Like the defense

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is smoking something, right, yeah, but why are you going

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like what if just somebody off this Like I was like,

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that's not in the instruction make up news stories, right, right,

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it was so And that's the part that got really

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irritating is you're like, we really could have wrapped this

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up in a day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how long did you guys deliberate?

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Speaker 3: I feel like the deliberation went on for like three days. Wow,

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maybe two full days, but like honestly could have been

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done in an hour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: People thought they were like on a TV.

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Speaker 4: Show, right, try to solve the mystery.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they were like, well they're going to bring us lunch. Okay,

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we don't need lunch.

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Speaker 2: We could just right, Oh my gosh, oh god.

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Speaker 3: It was fun like listening to I was this was

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way before like true crime. Yeah right, No, I mean

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this is when I was pregnant with ELB so this

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was like twenty one years ago. I do remember just

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being like, oh, this is so fascinating during the defense,

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like what's thirt and I was like, oh my god,

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this is horrible. Right, it needs a better defense attorney, right,

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And then I was the woman who was like needed

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a xanax, you know, I was just like, oh my god, fuck,

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this bit fine.

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Speaker 4: How long did it go? Like was it a week?

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Speaker 3: It was like I want to say it was like

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four days. I think I got out of there in

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a week, so it was like four days of the

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trial and then like two days of delibering.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, deliberating, right right, Wow, that's so cool. Though.

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Speaker 4: I want to get on a trial, I know.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, don't be too sad if

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like you get called no. I know.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking maybe I should have pushed it till

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after until in like January February.

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Speaker 3: I know you would have probably had a better chance. Yeah, oh,

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think of all the material. I know, I know, had

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you fucked up, you should have should with me like

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a jury consultant.

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Speaker 4: I know I should. I didn't even think about it,

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But you're right.

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Speaker 3: And I remember Mark Gerago's telling us that we'd be

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the worst, the worst people. There's nightmare right, white women, Right,

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that's right.

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Speaker 4: I remember him saying that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we don't want you on on the jury.

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Speaker 4: What I like, I want to be onres Like we.

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Speaker 3: Don't want you.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I know speaking of Mark, so his daughter,

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did you watch we watched the p Didy doc.

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Speaker 3: Holy should I forgot about that connection?

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about quints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so is she the She is definitely on

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the legal team.

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Speaker 2: She was his Yeah, is one of his main lawyers.

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She did a lot of the questioning of the witnesses

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on the stand. He had mark Anifilo was one, and

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then Tenny Gergos, which is Garrigos's daughter as another one

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of his defense He had like, I don't know six

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of them, but she was one of the main people.

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Speaker 4: And I saw her in the dock too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well, speaking of this is a very good

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connection because speaking of of jurors, Yeah, the worst part

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of the documentary, you got to admit was the interview.

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Speaker 4: With the jurors, right, yes, yes, Like what a couple

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of fucking idiots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have this TikTok, but I've got to

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play it for you. So this is a this is

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a like a little satire.

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Speaker 4: Glad I'm not the only one that thought that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this is the juror from the New

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Diddy documentary. This is a TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Ready, I mean going in now.

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Speaker 5: I was not a fan by any stretch of the

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measure of his music. I used to stay home from

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school and watch making the band. I'm not saying that

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we we were kind of kindred spirits or anything like that.

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It was just like we would make eye contact, which

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the same way you wouldn't make eye contact with anyone

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that you're friends with. In a room, someone says something crazy,

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what was it? Capricorn Clark? Capricorn Clark with no spark,

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And that's what I used to say, I mean in

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my head, just because she cried so much, like.

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Speaker 4: She was just like so, I mean, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there was any bias at all.

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Speaker 4: That's so true, so true.

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Speaker 3: That was The person was like, yeah, I mean I've

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always been a fan of P Diddy, I mean who

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Rights And it's like incredible, Like I grew up on

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like P Diddy.

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Speaker 2: Gaming all these bands too that nobody's ever heard of

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on bad Boy, Like oh, I was a big fan

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of Big Soul or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Like who know Who's Who's that? Like never heard of

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that band?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: If they were like deep deep, yeah, I chose, I know,

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how does that happen?

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Speaker 4: Like I just don't get it?

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Speaker 3: And then well, you know, I who was like yes,

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you know relationships, you know, I mean she kept going

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back to him, like about Cassie. He's like, you know,

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that's love and that is he gonna do. Like, hey,

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and if you want like all the nice things, if

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you he literally said, like, if you want all the

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luxury or whatever, that's kind of part of the deal.

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Speaker 4: Right, you can't have both. I know.

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Speaker 2: It's so it was insane like that that part four,

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So there's four parts. Like Part four was just you know,

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a lot of the stuff we kind of already heard about,

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the women and stuff. But the fascinating part of that

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documentary was the fact that fucking he did he fucking

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killed Tupac, I know, straight up, straight up like try

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first of all, shot him up five times, and then

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when he didn't kill him, then he puts out that

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track that's why fucked Joe bitch that hit him up track,

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and then fucking takes him out in Vegas like pays

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for the crips or the security guy, Like there's like.

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Speaker 4: Paid them to fucking take out Tupac.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then kind of fucking took his best friend,

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supposedly best friend, Biggie Small's into the lion Den of

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Los Angeles when you know he wanted to leave and

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go to London and he was like, no, cancel the trip,

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Like did that was kind of suspicious to me, Like

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did he know it was coming or like yes he did.

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Speaker 3: And then he puts out that I'll be missing you,

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acting like oh my god, Biggie's my best.

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Speaker 4: Friend, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And the funeral by the way, like I'm a bad boy,

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Record's gonna pay for the biggest funeral Queen's has ever seen. Meanwhile,

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he fucking Bill's Biggie's estate like makes him and his estate.

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Speaker 4: Pay for it. Yes, unllelievable.

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Speaker 2: So many things that this fucking shit bag of a

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guy that did, starting with the trampling of people, nine

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people dying in that concert, to the shooting in the

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nightclub with j Lo and having that guy take the

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fall for it for ten years.

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Speaker 3: How about the other guy though that he killed, Remember

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when it was like I forgot his name little Like

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let's call him like little.

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Speaker 4: Rog for something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the guy that was being the producer that

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he had producing justin Bieber songs and all these people's

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tracks when Diddy was like, yeah, I don't know, this

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is the sound I want and then that guy did

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it like lil rell right, right, right, and then he

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was drugging that guy and raping it, I know. And

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then that guy, remember, was a witness to the fact

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that Diddy and another guy killed.

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Speaker 4: A guy right in the studio. Studio of right.

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Speaker 3: We got to stop the bleeding and call the paramedics,

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and Diddy was like, didn't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. This guy, How

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does he fucking get away with all this shit?

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Speaker 3: I feel, man, this is like crazy, it is.

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Speaker 4: It is like the moth. He got away with this.

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Speaker 3: He's hardly spending any any time in.

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Speaker 4: Jail, I know.

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Speaker 2: And it was just it's so it was just so

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interesting though, I mean, just that whole And also, by

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the way, bad boy entertainment for like East Coast, West Coast,

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you know, at least on the West coast, you got

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like Tupac, you got.

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Speaker 4: Dre, you got Snoop Dogg.

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Speaker 2: Like bad Boy entertainment, they really didn't have that big

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Maybe they were bigger and I didn't know it because

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I grew up on the West Coast, but a lot

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of their artists were not that big main he I

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feel like Diddy became mainstream after Biggie died. After that

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that sting song you know, I'll be missing you and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Right, He like.

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Speaker 2: Became ultra famous off of the back of his best

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friend like that, he fucking led to his death just.

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Speaker 3: So, as Tupac pointed out too, he did. He would

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just wanted to be up in other people's songs. Oh yeah,

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like yeah, I'm gonna I'll be singing in this one

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and doing the main dancing right, doing the video, and

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they'd be like.

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00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: What why right right?

475
00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: You saw when Sug Knight said that at the award

476
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,920
show and he was like, if you guys want a

477
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,839
real producer, come to the West Coast.

478
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,279
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to be in your video.

479
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: It's all up in your videos and dancing and your videos.

480
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:44,039
It was the best. Yeah, it's crazy. And and Shug

481
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,160
Knights in jail. I don't know why, well he probably

482
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:46,920
should be in jail.

483
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 3: But well that's the problem is there kind of kind

484
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,039
of weren't heroes in this story because like, like you

485
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:56,480
and I were Tupac fans, like, and you want to

486
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,240
be like, yeah, fuck that, like Tupac did nothing wrong,

487
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:00,799
but then if you look, yeah.

488
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,799
Speaker 4: Kind of did a lot yeah, like right right.

489
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: A lot of sexual assault going on with Tupac and

490
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,000
then obviously Shug Knight has.

491
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,039
Speaker 4: Killed people, like yeah, there's there's nobody to read.

492
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,559
Speaker 2: No, But at the same but like, how did Puff

493
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,400
Daddy like get out of it all unscathed, like just unbelievable,

494
00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:27,319
worst like and still pretty much unscathed criminal enterprise?

495
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: And how did all these women? Hu did all these people,

496
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,880
you know, against their own fear come out and testify

497
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,279
against him and like they're not protected that he is

498
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,519
going to be out of jail. I know that Ricorn, right,

499
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:46,559
that stupid jergo. Yeah, yeah, she was just like so emotional.

500
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,920
It's like, what the fuck do I know? He kidnapped her?

501
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,079
Speaker 4: Right? They said that.

502
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that juror said that she was incredible because of

503
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,319
because she was too emotional, Like what is that?

504
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 4: What?

505
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, these were the jurors, you know, like this unbelievable.

506
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,599
Speaker 4: It just didn't make sense.

507
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,599
Speaker 2: Oh, and that one jurs like, oh, you know he

508
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,599
always he was always nodding his head. That was his thing,

509
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,079
Like he just nodded his head all the time, you know,

510
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,599
and he's making eye contact with the jurors and nodding

511
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,000
his head.

512
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,799
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's his thing. He did it on making

513
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:15,680
the band all the time.

514
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the woman I'm pretty sure she

515
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:20,319
say that was the one that was like, yeah, of course,

516
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,599
I was like exchanging looks with him because we were

517
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,440
like this is so crazy, right, this witness is like

518
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,799
their mine, like crazy.

519
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,079
Speaker 4: I just don't get it. I don't get it.

520
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:36,079
Speaker 3: Can you imagine being like like being Cassie taking the

521
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,160
stand and seeing a juror like exchanging looks with he?

522
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:40,599
Speaker 4: Did he?

523
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:40,839
Speaker 3: No?

524
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: I know?

525
00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: And what I mean?

526
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:48,839
Speaker 2: I know it's she was nineteen. She was like Natalia's age. Yeah,

527
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,720
when she started working with Diddy, nineteen. It's poor girl.

528
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,480
The trauma that she I mean, it's just it's terrible.

529
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,279
I just don't understand. Like, I know, he's got all

530
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,079
these others, so the lawsuits against him and stuff, but

531
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480
there's got to be like, how is he not responsible

532
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:06,519
for the death of.

533
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing in the civil lawsuits, you know. Yeah,

534
00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:15,680
there's like seventy seven pending or something. But that's just money. Yeah,

535
00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:17,400
he can just not pay it. It's going to be

536
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,759
jail time. No, he needs to be in jail for

537
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,119
long ass time.

538
00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:23,079
Speaker 2: And there's a guy that's going to go What are

539
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,359
the guys that was talking under cover. I think that

540
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:28,160
it's said it at the end of the episode that

541
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,720
he's going to be on trial in of twenty twenty

542
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:36,559
five for the murder of Tupac. But why him and

543
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:40,599
not how does that happen? Like who paid him? Why

544
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,720
don't they follow the money?

545
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,039
Speaker 3: Well, then maybe that guy will be saying implicating Diddy,

546
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,440
which he did.

547
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I don't understand.

548
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: I don't get it. We can't ask our friend Geragos

549
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,759
about it.

550
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 4: No.

551
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: Another thing that I watched is and I did we

552
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,160
talk about this last week? The beast in me?

553
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,519
Speaker 4: Did we tell I told you to watch it? Yeah?

554
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: Watching it?

555
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

556
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: And then okay, I know you're going to be with

557
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,240
me on this, but maybe not. Sometimes you understand stuff

558
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,559
better than I do, but only like a couple episodes in,

559
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,599
I was like, you lost me. I don't know.

560
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 4: There's this industries and there and they're with it. There's

561
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,400
too many, too many side stories.

562
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,519
Speaker 3: But also the side stories are things I don't understand

563
00:27:31,559 --> 00:27:34,519
about finances and this way running for office and this

564
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:38,519
person wants to stop this person from running.

565
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: I didn't get that either.

566
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all this money and then the guy the

567
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:46,680
main guy who's being accused of murdering his wife his dad.

568
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,480
I'm like, I know, is the dad bad? Is the

569
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,960
brother dad who's I don't even fucking know who's bad.

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000
I'm like all I care about is like I guess

571
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,119
the Claire Danes story. So I get to episode six

572
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,119
and I had a moment where I was like, you

573
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,079
know what, life is too short. I don't give a fuck.

574
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:11,200
I'm barely hanging on to like understanding. And I was like,

575
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,119
you know what, though, it's one of those ones where

576
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,759
they're you're not going to find out everything until the end.

577
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,480
So I was like, I'm just gonna google it what

578
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,440
happens at the end. It saved me a good few hours.

579
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't need to watch it. And I read

580
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:29,519
it and I was like, oh, okay.

581
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: I knows, so whatd I didn't watch?

582
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 4: Yes, you didn't need I know.

583
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: I saw it through because I was like, okay, first

584
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,480
of all, there was nothing else on. This was when

585
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,480
I was sick with the flu, and I just finished

586
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,279
it and I was like, okay, it was like it

587
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,160
didn't I didn't care enough about the characters.

588
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: I really didn't. It just didn't.

589
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was too much in the weeds of all

590
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,079
these other side stories, I felt the same way of

591
00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,880
did you watch it's all her fault on Peacock? No oh,

592
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,039
you haven't seen that? No Oh that's another one.

593
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,079
Speaker 3: Wow, got it? But you felt the same way.

594
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,359
Speaker 4: I kind of felt the same way.

595
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,119
Speaker 2: That one is a little campy too, but it's it's

596
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,720
based on a book, which is you know, always oh,

597
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,119
pretty good. But I don't want to spoil it that

598
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,880
you got to you gotta watch it. It's with the

599
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,400
sister Sarah Snook is her name she was in Yeah, yeah,

600
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,200
she's She's the star of it.

601
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,799
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen something with her in it recently.

602
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:31,720
It's on Peacock. It's like eight episodes.

603
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:35,039
Speaker 2: Okay, well I don't have Peacock, but I guess like

604
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:41,279
it's probably on Amazon probably yeah, yeah, okay, yeah did

605
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:42,759
you So?

606
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,839
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll watch that. I need some stuff to watch.

607
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,160
I know I've been going on Netflix. So Netflix and

608
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,519
HBO are together now, right. I noticed that it tricks

609
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,319
you because they show you old stuff. Yes, it's been

610
00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,440
out for years, but they're like, we have the now

611
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,279
on Netflix, and you're like, have I ever seen Love

612
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,680
and Death right? Looks like that's what we were.

613
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,559
Speaker 2: Yes, So I watched Love and Death yesterday and I

614
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,160
was like, so I started watching it, it said, you know,

615
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,480
fans a true crime will like it. So then I

616
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,200
started the first episode and the name Candy Montgomery sounded familiar.

617
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,319
August it was in June of nineteen eighty and then

618
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:30,279
I looked it up and it was based on the

619
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:36,240
true story of this best like church going housewive kills

620
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,359
her best friend with an axe, right, and there's like

621
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,359
cheating involved.

622
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: And there was the Hulu show that Jessica Biel played.

623
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: There were two shows at the same time. I believe

624
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,279
there was a documentary and there was a drama.

625
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: I would rather watch the documentary.

626
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: It reminded me of The Staircase because the Staircase did

627
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,039
the same thing at the same time. There was a

628
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:02,119
documentary and there was also a dramatization.

629
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Right right, right, yes, yeah, yes, but the Staircase was

630
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,200
really interesting and really good and it's like, who you know,

631
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:09,839
did he do it?

632
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: Did he not do it?

633
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: Right? Right?

634
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: This one?

635
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I already saw this story with the Jessica

636
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,279
Beal story, I've never seen the doc I'd rather watch

637
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,240
the actual documentary to be honest.

638
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: Same. So so then anyway, I was just watching it.

639
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:26,519
Speaker 2: I was falling asleep and then watching it and I

640
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240
but you know, then I got to the end where

641
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,799
she went on trial, and that was interesting because I

642
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,519
feel like the other show didn't really show too much

643
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,799
of the trial. So then I watched the trial and

644
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:38,759
all I kept thinking is I have jury duty tomorrow.

645
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:43,319
I hope I get on a trial, right, Yeah. To

646
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,319
bring it back to what we were talking about, but yeah,

647
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:47,519
so I so I watched that.

648
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't need you don't.

649
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:50,839
Speaker 2: Need to watch it if you know the story, Like, yeah,

650
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,000
it's so, there's not much going on TV right now.

651
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,359
Speaker 3: I went on Netflix last night. I was like, I

652
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,160
really need to watch something. I'm trying to find my

653
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:07,799
little okay, and I started watching The Big C with

654
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Laura Lenny. Now, I got to look this up. I

655
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,440
don't know what year this came out, but it is

656
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,079
old because Laura Lenny looks very young.

657
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,599
Speaker 4: And probably before Ozark, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

658
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,920
gonna I'm gonna look it up.

659
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:28,119
Speaker 2: Uh when oh, I did meet a writer or a

660
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,519
creator of Ozark at Bill Simmons's party that somebody I

661
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,559
met Yeah. Oh yeah, did you guys talk for a

662
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:40,079
little bit. Yeah, not really about Ozark, but I was

663
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,640
introduced to him. Yeah creator, I think co creator.

664
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,519
Speaker 3: Really Yeah, that's exciting.

665
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: I know that was really interesting. Yeah it was good.

666
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,079
Speaker 3: Now, that was a really good show that you could

667
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:51,839
follow along.

668
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:53,839
Speaker 4: Yes, I love Ozark.

669
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,799
Speaker 3: You can't you can really watch, but like you could understand,

670
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,359
like who were the who was the cartel?

671
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah you watched Ozark?

672
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:02,599
Speaker 3: Gat you?

673
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:04,119
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yes's great.

674
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was gonna go, You're gonna die like

675
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,839
this is so crazy, but no, this show, The Big

676
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Sea came out in twenty ten. Wow, yes, right, that

677
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,319
is a long time ago. So that's a long ass

678
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,359
time ago. So Laura Lenny looked completely different like she

679
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,119
was young. So but you know, they advertise it like

680
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,799
you've never heard of this show before, brand new show.

681
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,079
It's called The Big Sea. So I started watching it

682
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,839
and it's it's cute, right, It's about a person who's

683
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:47,279
just been diagnosed with stage four metastatic melanoma. Okay, so

684
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,400
funny premise, right, right, right, But it's like a dramedy.

685
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,799
It's like a kind of a comedy.

686
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Isn't there another show like that that you were just

687
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,759
telling me to watch recently. It was based on the

688
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:01,240
past I'd get dying for sex.

689
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:03,079
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's so good.

690
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to watch that.

691
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: That's really really good. But this is like a cop

692
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,119
I don't know, but you know, spoiler alert. I guess

693
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:15,239
it's is it a spoiler alert? If it's not? Now, well,

694
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,280
I looked it up because I was like, well, this

695
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
is like, this is a good show. And I got

696
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,079
to like episode four, and then I had to google

697
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,760
how many seasons are there? Right, there's four seasons, but

698
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,440
season four only has a couple episodes. But I was like,

699
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,199
that is an investment of my time, right, And then

700
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
I was like, what happens at the end, because I'm like,

701
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719
I don't want to get all the way into this.

702
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,639
And then she got like I need here to be

703
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,360
like a oh it was a false alarm.

704
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,559
Speaker 4: No, no, she's going to die at the end of it.

705
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,920
I don't know.

706
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,639
Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch this. I'm not doing that

707
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,159
to myself.

708
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:55,079
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's too depressing, right yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

709
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: I just feel like lately, with losing Peopo, I'm fine

710
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,599
most of the time, but do you ever find like,

711
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,920
I don't want to watch stuff that's going to make

712
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,320
me cry.

713
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:11,039
Speaker 3: Yes, to listen to stuff that's going to be really emotional,

714
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,000
because that's what's going to come up, and I feel

715
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,039
like I need escapist stuff. Not that I'm I felt,

716
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,360
don't worry, I felt everything. Yeah, I felt it leading up.

717
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,559
I felt it, but like I don't want.

718
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,079
Speaker 2: To No, I know, you want to have stuff that

719
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,840
gives you a little more levity. Yeah, yeah, of course, Yeah,

720
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,320
that's what housewives are for.

721
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:32,079
Speaker 3: Thank you.

722
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

723
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,599
Speaker 3: Do you remember because I listened to a lot of

724
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,639
our classic episodes so that I can post them. I

725
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:43,039
mean we used to really talk about housewives. Yeah, early

726
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:44,920
early days, and then people got mad.

727
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: I know, I know I had the Housewives. So then

728
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:52,280
we stopped for a long time, a really long time.

729
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were actively listening all the time. And

730
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,719
I remember that we would watch Beverly Hills and I

731
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,239
really hated Brandy, remember, Yes, and then she invited.

732
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 4: You to be on her No either she came first

733
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,920
on ours.

734
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,199
Speaker 2: Did she come on out? Yeah, she did come on

735
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:16,239
on hers first. Okay, then we had her on our

736
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,559
podcast was a podcast.

737
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: One thing was like oh Stephanie, Like, oh, I thought

738
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,920
you hate her, and I'm like, what are.

739
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,199
Speaker 4: You gonna do? Like punch your in the face? O god?

740
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,199
Speaker 3: And then remember people were like, oh, you were so

741
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,360
nice to her. You didn't like what am I?

742
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:35,519
Speaker 2: Hard news? Now it's sold ridiculous. Yeah, of course we're

743
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:37,519
gonna be nice, right right.

744
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: Didn't you reach out to a house oh, Heather?

745
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: I tried.

746
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I DMed her, but she never reading well her loss. Listen.

747
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 3: I I do love Heather de Bro and I watching

748
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,079
her on the show. But a lot of people say

749
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:58,559
that she's just not that nice.

750
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,679
Speaker 4: She doesn't seem very nice.

751
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, Well I heard there was a well

752
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,199
they verified this rumor that she there was a housewife

753
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:14,039
in New York in Las Vegas during the Bravo con

754
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,960
that they all went. A bunch of housewives went to

755
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,960
New Kids on the Block concert and there was one

756
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000
housewife that insisted on going backstage and was like, you

757
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,800
don't know who I am?

758
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 4: Like hello, and they were like, no, we don't. You

759
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,840
don't have a past, can't go backstage?

760
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: And it was Heather, Oh really, yes, Oh that's funny.

761
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:37,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

762
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Did you watch Andy Cohen on Call Her Daddy podcast? No,

763
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:45,000
I highly recommend it. It was really good. I just

764
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:49,480
love like Andy Cohen just seems so self aware and

765
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,599
he's just he had great stories about how he started,

766
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,199
how he became mister Bravo.

767
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: It was really good.

768
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,559
Speaker 2: It was really good, interesting, And then she asked him

769
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,760
all kinds of questions like like round, like really like

770
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,800
like like rapid fire questions like who's the thirstiest thirstiest

771
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,480
housewives And he said Brittany from the Saltlake Housewives. If

772
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:16,000
you're not watching Salt like, that's the one that those

773
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,360
bitches are nuts. They get in, they get down and

774
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,559
dirty the.

775
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,039
Speaker 4: Salt Like, I know, I think I have to try

776
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,440
to watch that one. They're good.

777
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: That sounds more interesting.

778
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: Then there's so much better than Beverly Hills. It's like,

779
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,679
give me a break.

780
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,559
Speaker 3: I know, I really barely can watch Hills, and I

781
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:34,519
know I should watch I should watch that one.

782
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: They're authentic, like their drama is authentic. It's not manufacturer

783
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,880
and like, you know, first half of the show they're like,

784
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,320
you know, hanging out at the beach and playing volleyball,

785
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,920
and then the second half is like drama.

786
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: Now, this is like drama all the way through.

787
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:51,039
Speaker 2: Like they they they have real relationships, They get into

788
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:56,280
real messy situations, and there's a whole cast of characters.

789
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: Do you want to know something funny that I that

790
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,920
I just thought of telling you? Okay, So this happened.

791
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,800
This happened kind of a while ago. But I was

792
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,440
getting botox at a person's house and there was a

793
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,119
woman there, and I feel like, I don't want to

794
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,239
say her name, but like, if you guys want to

795
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,880
message me, I'll tell you who it is. But so

796
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:26,320
this woman, very pretty super skinny, like says that she's

797
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,079
in entertainment, like an entertainment reporter maybe, like I don't know,

798
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,559
I don't know exactly like what show she's on, but

799
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:40,440
she's on something okay. And she was like saying that

800
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,719
she was asking me what I did or whatever, and

801
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,760
I said I had a podcast. Then she was like, oh,

802
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,159
like I used to have a podcast, but like it

803
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,960
didn't really make me enough money. We were chit chatting

804
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,760
and I was being really nice and I was offering

805
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,880
to like somehow she wanted me to consult with her

806
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,239
and tell her I was going to turn. I was like, well,

807
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,920
if you have a podcast, or if you're going to

808
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,800
have one, maybe I could introduce you to like the

809
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,719
person who does our ads or whatever. And then she

810
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,039
just kind of seemed a little bit fake. But like

811
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:14,760
I said, I talked to her for a long time

812
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,280
and something my problem is I will tend to seem

813
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,079
like I really like a person and yeah, like no,

814
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,880
I totally will help you, like yeah, no, you should

815
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,079
be making a lot of money, you know.

816
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

817
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,039
Speaker 3: So then she hit me up and was like when

818
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:29,840
can we have lunch? Like I want to have lunch

819
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,840
with you, and I kind of blew her off. So

820
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,760
not that long ago, I was going through old episodes

821
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,119
of ours and I was like, holy shit, we had

822
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,840
her on our podcast. Oh my god, years ago, years ago.

823
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,119
And then I remembered, of course, I was like, oh

824
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,320
my god, she's somebody that podcast won forced on us.

825
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,960
And it was when she had her podcast and podcast

826
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:55,920
one was like we have this new person who has

827
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,960
a new podcast, and like, we really want to promote

828
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,639
her on your podcast, and I do remember that you

829
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,400
and I were like, well, she doesn't have this was

830
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,360
like early Caylen was like getting all the requests and

831
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,119
he was like, podcast one really wants you guys to

832
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,920
cross promote her. We were like, well, we're never going

833
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,079
to go on her podcast because it's brand new, Like

834
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:20,320
she has no listeners, so only thing we're doing is

835
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,760
helping her. So we agreed because we didn't want to

836
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,800
be argumentative with podcast one and she came on, and

837
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,719
do you remember that hurt that she was like, yeah,

838
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,719
I fired my housekeeper or whatever because she.

839
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: She wasn't wearing shoes, And now I do, and I

840
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,440
was like what you did?

841
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: What? And I remember kind of pushing back and being like,

842
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440
but maybe she thought that was the polite thing to do.

843
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:53,079
I don't even think she was barefoot. I think she

844
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:55,480
just like took off her shoes like which a lot

845
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:55,960
of people do.

846
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 4: And I remember she was.

847
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Like no, I don't like that. Yes, And then after

848
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,800
she left, we were like, what the fuck? What kind

849
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,480
of cunt is that?

850
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,039
Speaker 3: Like? Wow, yes, and we were so nice to her

851
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,639
during the show, but I feel like we said something

852
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,519
later We were like, yeah, we weren't like cool, no bitch.

853
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: She was a bitch, and she did seem fake. I remember, yeah,

854
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,119
I don't know her. I can't remember her name.

855
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 3: I'll tell you after we get off, but yeah, so

856
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:24,800
like and it's so funny because she's just a she's

857
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,320
like like a mom from kind of my neighborhood, right,

858
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:28,480
just think she's.

859
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: Wow, that's so weird.

860
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: So like thought of herself as this big celebrity and

861
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,800
that podcast she never ended up making money off that podcast.

862
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Shocking because she's not likable. She wasn't likable, and she

863
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:41,880
she was fake.

864
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, I'm so glad

865
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,079
I never.

866
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: And she didn't know that she was on your show.

867
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,599
Speaker 3: She did not remember. I had no memory of it.

868
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: That's weird.

869
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,199
Speaker 3: She was in person with us too.

870
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:54,559
Speaker 5: Well.

871
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,679
Speaker 4: I can understand you not.

872
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: But for somebody that doesn't like was trying to do

873
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,599
podcasts and like probably only been on a handful of podcasts.

874
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,199
Maybe I don't know for sure, but you would think

875
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,519
she would be like, oh, I was on your unless

876
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,760
it was the different name of our show back then.

877
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,079
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it was for crying out loud.

878
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: It was okay because I only can't I can't see

879
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,599
the parent express Okay, okay, so it was you.

880
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,519
Speaker 3: Know, it was years ago, but it wasn't a million

881
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:24,280
years ago. It was back when we had like a

882
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,239
few more guests. That's crazy, not funny. That is so

883
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,159
funny if you want to know her name to you,

884
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,920
but you know, okay, yeah, wow, anyway, this was super fun. Yeah,

885
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,239
let's say you know what, let's go backwards. We only

886
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,159
have one business shout out, and that's our friend Adam Lerner.

887
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,079
Adam's got a cart a car, Tom, he got me

888
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,679
my ID four. He will he, I mean, he does

889
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,119
deals for all his friends, and he will treat you

890
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,639
like a friend. He will find as he does California.

891
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,480
You don't there's nothing to pay. He just will help

892
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,079
you and it doesn't matter. You can he can find

893
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:02,800
you a used car, you can find you a new car.

894
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,960
You can get you a lease. He does the financing,

895
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,320
but it makes it so easy. So Adam's got a

896
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,199
car dot com And then christis droop, and Stephanie's a

897
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,440
stinker rinker, and Sandra it's not easy being green, No,

898
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,119
but you do it. Jennifer get up, and Aaron's a

899
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:21,679
dirty Sanchez. And Leslie's coughing and coughing and coughing, and Alisha.

900
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,159
Speaker 2: Ascalante in the City of El Monte. And Kelly Bryant,

901
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,519
she's your aunt. And Rebecca Luvin he's so cute.

902
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,119
Speaker 3: And Sean is so hot, hot, hot hot, and still

903
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:32,719
a new dad.

904
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 4: He is.

905
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,119
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's had another kid since then.

906
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,199
Speaker 4: I think he still has his one baby and.

907
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:39,679
Speaker 3: Missy and Gabby.

908
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 4: Guys, girls, come.

909
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: On Katerina and make sure you go to the dentist

910
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,360
regularly because you do not want what happened to me.

911
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,519
And it's this age.

912
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,599
Speaker 4: And check your hearing, yes.

913
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,679
Speaker 3: And Valerie Bubba Fenwick hits out of the park, and Polly,

914
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,599
we love your pancakes. And Rita rocks that basiete with

915
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Elizabeth Williamson's kid in it. Nikky, call your girls, and

916
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,039
Dick is still frolicking and I love you guys. Thanks

917
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:05,920
everybody to your parent.

918
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,079
Speaker 4: Now don't f it up

919
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,199
Speaker 3: That angel