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Speaker 1: God, Command God, don't get Supreme Leader Maxill Gimmy.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome. It is Matt Connorton Unleashed, the AF

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version of the show. This one is strictly online where

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we can say anything we want to about anything we

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want to Welcome everybody. I am Matt Connerton and of

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course Jenna's with me as well, or Jen Coffee or Jenny,

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however you want to call her how you want to

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Speaker 3: I am present and accounted for. You can call me

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Jen or Jenny or hate you whatever works.

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Speaker 2: On this Sunday afternoon. It is Sunday, August twenty four,

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twenty twenty five. We are streaming the show live. Of course,

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this will be in the podcast feed immediately afterward. But

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we'll see if anyone wants to chime in, if anyone

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wants to pop in live with us in the chat room,

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if you do post something, I will try to read

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your comment on air if you do join us during

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the live stream. But yeah, we were gonna do tough

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Bumps with Eric Pilcher, but Eric's got a little bit

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of a situation he's dealing with, so I'm sure later

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in the week and I do have something though to

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mention and Jenny, I don't think I even told you

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this yet. Tomorrow after five pm, it might might be

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right out five. I'm not sure someone from the band

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Visus Inc. Is going to get on a stream with

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me and we're gonna talk about Vices Fest. We talked

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about it yesterday ye on the radio show.

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Speaker 4: No you did not tell me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna get on with me tomorrow

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to talk about it. It's, you know, obviously too late

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to get them in on the radio show that we

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do on Saturdays from wmn H. But I said, you know,

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let's do a stream talk about it. They they did

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very graciously invite us to join them, but it's, you know,

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it's like I said, it's really hard for us to

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get away. It's, you know, the festival. It's Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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I'm on the air Friday night, Saturday morning, we have

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the radio show, and then there's always a lot going on.

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Our weekends are very very busy. So but I did suggest,

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I said, if you want to hop on a podcast

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show and talk about everything, talk about you know, the festival,

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Vices Inc. They've got. If you go to vicesfest dot com,

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they've got the full lineup there and they've got a

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lot of great bands. A lot of the bands that

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are on the list that are on the schedule for

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vices Inc. This year for vices Fest, to be specific,

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is a lot of them are bands that we've had

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on the show recently, or or a couple of them

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a while ago, but a lot of them have been

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within the last year. So a lot of amazing, amazing talent.

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And there's also a few bands in there who we

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that we will in the future because they're names that

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we've definitely heard about. So that will be Monday, I

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believe Monday at five pm Eastern, we're gonna jump on

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a live stream with vices Zinc. And then of course

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that'll be up and available in the podcast. And I

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know they want to give away some tickets too.

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Speaker 4: Excellent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll figure out, we'll see how we can

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do that. We'll figure that out. But anyway, so and

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by the way, if you missed this weekend's radio show,

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of course, Matt Connorton Unleashed is a live every Saturday

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morning from nine am to twelve noon from the studios

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of WMNH ninety five point three FM. You can listen

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locally right here in Manchester where we are on ninety

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five point three FM, or of course you can stream

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the show from anywhere if you go to Matt connorton

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dot com, slash live. And of course this version of

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the show is strictly the podcast only one, so this

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has this version of the show has no direct affiliation

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our own, which is why we're able to be completely

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uncensored because it is strictly online and we can talk

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about any anything we want to.

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Speaker 4: It can say anything we want to.

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Speaker 2: We can say anything we want.

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Speaker 4: To, like shit my favorite word.

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Speaker 2: We can we can use that word here. Yes, we

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cannot use that on the radio version of the show.

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Speaker 4: I like that word. Yes, a lot of my speeches.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, we should mention too before we get to

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the main subject that we were going to discuss. You

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were you got to speaking of speeches and that that's

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what reminded me. You gave a speech recently.

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Speaker 4: I did, Oh, yes, I did.

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Speaker 3: I yes, I was happy to be at Karishma Monshore's

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announcement Wednesday evening, when she announced that she was officially

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running for Congress. She is excuse me, for Senate Federal Senate.

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She is running for the seat being vacated by Jean Shaheen,

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who is retiring. There will be a primary in this obviously.

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I like her for a number of reasons. First and foremost,

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she's a scientist who has spent her life working on

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medical research to try and find cures to some of

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the worst diseases in the world. So she's a science

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minded individual who has a doctorate degree, who has spent

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her life in service to others, trying to save their lives.

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And I need somebody like that in office because I'm

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overwhelmed with people in office who could care less.

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Speaker 4: About human lives.

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Speaker 3: If you can't make the money and you can't serve them,

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you have no purpose. And I need those people out,

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and I need people who have empathy and compassion and

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give a shit about the work in American and the

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working class American who's busting their ass and barely being

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able to scrape by right now. And I feel confident

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that somebody who has spent their life doing that is

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going to look at legislation through that lens, and I

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don't want a lawyer. I don't want a career politician,

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bullshit artists. I need somebody in that seat who was

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going to vote for the people first. And that's why

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I decided to support and endorse Charisma as a former

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New Hampshire State representative, myself more importantly, as a New

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Hampshire citizen. It's these next elections are going to be

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vital for so many reasons, and healthcare being predominantly one

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of the most important things, because without your health, you

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have nothing else. I had a wonderful career. I owned

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a house, I had over five acres of land. I

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never made a mortgage payment late, you know.

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Speaker 4: I was that person.

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Speaker 3: I made every car payment on time, I paid every

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bill on time. But when I got my second round

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of cancer, it did me in and I lost everything.

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So if you think this can't happen to you, it

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certainly can.

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Speaker 4: And I worked.

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Speaker 3: Multiple jobs, and all of my jobs were in medicine

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for my entire adult life.

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Speaker 4: Basically, I mean I started out in medicine. I think

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Speaker 3: And that's what I did my entire life, so I

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wasn't somebody who was screwing around. I didn't drink hardly ever,

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because I was always working, Like you can't work in

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medicine and function and do anything like that. So I

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never drank. I wasn't a partier. When I was home,

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I was mostly sleeping. I did nights for seventeen years.

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I pulled twenty four hour shifts. So this shit happens,

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and it happens to the best of us. You know,

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I watched the man in Washington, d C. I know

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we were diverting a little bit. But when I went

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to Washington, d C. During a period of time when

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actually a Trump appointee was in charge of overseeing all

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of America's how basically kind of how America's finances work

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in conjunction with consumers and making sure that consumer rights

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are protected, and they were invoking creating a law that

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was to say that medical debt could not be put

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on your credit report at the federal level. Create this

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law cannot be put on your credit report because it

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is devastating and the best this And when I went

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to see this get announced, they had people who were

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sharing stories and the one that really struck me the

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most was a gentleman who was probably.

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Speaker 4: He must have been in his seventies.

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Speaker 3: Worked his whole life, had a house, had eight fifty credit,

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paid everything on time his entire life, and he got

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sick and ended up with these enormous medical bills.

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Speaker 4: Now, this guy had fourteen medical.

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Speaker 3: Bills and he had arranged and was making payments on

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every fricking one of them, and trying like hell to

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make payments on every single bill. It wasn't he wasn't

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ignoring it. He was trying, he was working, he was

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trying really hard. And then the car that they were using,

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so wait a minute.

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Speaker 4: So he ends up.

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Speaker 3: Not being able to balance the fourteen bills with everything else,

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and it goes on his credit report and focks his

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credit up. So he's driving back and forth for like

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an it takes like an hour away to go for

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his cancer treatments, and the car they're using to get

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to those treatments, all the miles, all the driving, it

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caught up and the car was dyet and they needed

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a new car. And this man who had eight to

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fifty credit now had shit and he couldn't qualify for

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our car loan for even a used car to replace

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the car that he needed to get to treatment to

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: He did everything the way that America tells him to,

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paid in his entire life, paid his housep did everything right,

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but he got sick and it ruined his life. It

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stole everything from this family. And and just just to

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put a button on that just recently that that that's

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been rescinded. It's it's from it's not happening. Medical debt

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can continue to go on your credit report. The Trump

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regime's reversed that, of course, even though it was a

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trumpet points because it was decided under the Biden administration.

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just no good.

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Speaker 2: Well and and it's it's an opportunity to hurt people.

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So and that's and Maga loves hurting people.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't make any sense to me. I don't

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understand why you want to ruin people's lives, like.

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Speaker 2: Because they can, because they get off on it, you know,

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I mean, let's just call it what it is. You

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you have to be respectful and have dialogue and everything.

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But we also need to call shit what it is.

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There's there's a cruelty built into mega, but there's also

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a general a broader in a broader sense. I've always

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felt this way. There is a cruelty built into conservatism.

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Conservatism as an ideology has a certain cruelty to it. Uh,

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they don't see it that way. Conservatives don't see it

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that way until something happens to them.

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Speaker 3: That's the only way they's You made your bed, you

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Speaker 2: That's right, right, because that's what a conservative would say,

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or a conservative would say to the sick person who

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who is now who is so buried in medical debt

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and now can't qualify for a car loan, Well, you

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got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. That's what

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a conservative would say.

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Speaker 3: Take a second mortgage out, Take a mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: You know, because we got to make sure that that

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hospital ceo who's getting a five mili a year's salary

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never mind is bonuses and benefits, packages and everything. And

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trust me, he doesn't worry about covids no, I yeah,

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he's got to get his due.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, I mean it's it's another argument for

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single pair. You know, if we had single payer in

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this country where you know, you're everything was just covered automatically.

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I don't want a government takeover of health care. No,

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healthcare especial. Right, that's different. I just want single payer.

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then people will say, well, I don't want my money

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to pay for somebody else's health care. Well, that's what

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Speaker 4: Well's how it works.

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Speaker 2: That's how insurance. So you're already doing that. You and

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everybody else in the pool is already paying for everybody

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Speaker 4: That's how it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you had single if you had single pair,

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all this all this other ship would go away, medical debt,

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ruining people's lives. Your your employer because people say, well,

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how would we pay for that if the government pays

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for it, Well, that's easy. Now your employer doesn't have

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to pay for it anymore. So now your employer, if

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you had single payer, and your employer didn't have to

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deduct money from your paycheck every week to pay for

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your health insurance. That's how you pay for it. It's not

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like I'm not even good at math and I can

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figure this out. Like it's actually really easy. The money's

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already being spent. Just let's spend it in a way

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that doesn't fuck people, you know.

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Speaker 4: And spend it more.

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Speaker 3: And you talk about and see and Republicans claim to

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be fiscally conservative, but they're not because they're.

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Speaker 4: Not the problem.

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Speaker 2: They're dishonest.

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Speaker 3: Currently, in order to meet those salaries and what have you,

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everybody has these ginormous insurance departments and billing departments that

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have to do all of these different forms and different

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and then they have to do appeals and if things

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get denied, and it goes this whole back and forth

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and you get a prior authorization back and forth, back

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and forth. All these bullshit jobs that don't need to exist. Right,

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So that's the money you don't need to spend. I've

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witnessed it personally in my face, up close and personal.

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I went to the Netherlands. I saw a society that

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has national health care. Everybody pays a flat rate every

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month and it's like one hundred and something dollars. It's

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not even like what we pay. My mom was paying

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eight hundred dollars a month for her health insurance in Massachusetts,

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and that was just to get it. She still had copays,

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and she still had a deductible, and it was a

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huge deductible.

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Speaker 4: And that's why she got.

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Speaker 3: Her entire MRI bill handed to her on a silver platter.

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Because she had to meet her deductible. She had to

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pay the entire bill. That's how our system currently works.

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In a system like we're discussing, you pay your flat rate,

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it goes into the we'll use Medicare. It goes into Medicare.

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Your doctor submits to build the Medicare. Medicare pays the

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bill just like it does now. There's no argument, no muscle,

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no fuss. Everything's done appropriately, and Medicare has rules they

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have to follow and they can't fuck around and they

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got to follow the rules. So an industry is still

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privately owned hospitals or doctor's offices. It's not owned by

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the government, it's not run by the government. It's simply healthcare.

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And now it's healthcare that's one hundred percent being funded

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for the people in patient care.

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Speaker 4: If the hospital.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have to have thirty employees in the billing department

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to deal with at a Blue Cross fill in your

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blank insurance, they just have to build medicare and then

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get paid.

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Speaker 4: That's not thirty employees.

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Speaker 2: It's better for everybody, everybody.

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Speaker 4: So where's that money going.

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Speaker 3: Then it's going into having better patient access, So it's

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going into having machines that are upgraded. It's going into

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having no low stock on supplies.

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Speaker 4: I cannot tell you. I worked at ICUCCU, I worked

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in er cardiology.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you right now there's not a single

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department that doesn't end up with something they fucking run

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out of that they shouldn't have. There are a hospital,

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But this is what happens in the way we've built society.

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In my buddies, he's a stage four cancer patient who

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I will tell you would be dead if he was

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in the United States.

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Speaker 4: There's no fucking way, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: He his doctor goes to the doctors, they estice levels,

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doctor orders a medication, medication gets or from the pharmacy,

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it's delivered and he gets it.

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Speaker 4: And that's the fucking end of the story.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's getting in the way and telling you questioning whether

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or not your doctor's correct.

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Speaker 4: On diagnosing you.

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Speaker 3: And here's another one for you, backwards medicine of American society.

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Speaker 4: Bring you hurt your shoulder? It hurts when I do this,

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doc in the Netherlands.

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Speaker 3: Let's go take a picture, see what's going on in

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there in America.

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Speaker 4: Or go to physical therapy first.

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Speaker 3: First, I'm going to send you somewhere to manipulate the

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joint and fuck around without taking an image, without having

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a clue what the hell's going on inside of you.

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I'm just gonna do it. They did that with me,

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and I had three cervical discs that were herniated and

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were literally moved my spinal cord, literally moved my spinal cord.

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I went to physical therapy for six weeks.

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Speaker 2: That must be. That must be where that old joke

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comes from. You know, the guy goes to the doctor

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and says, doc, it hurts when I do this, and

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the doctor says, well, don't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: If you have if you have single payer, and just

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just all the bullshit goes away and it's and it

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and it just is better for everyone and again and.

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Speaker 4: Back on the patient and not on the profits.

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Speaker 2: And this is something you know, and I always complain.

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I complain about it a lot on the show that

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I do with Todd uh hanging left. You know, Democrats

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are terrible at messaging because they're right, they're correct on

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the policy on this, but they're so bad at messaging.

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I don't know why. I've heard Bernie say it, but

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I don't know why Democrats don't. They should constantly every

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time this subject comes up, talk about all the stuff

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that they they talk about and how it would be

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better for people. But also Democrats need to remember to

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say this part. If we have this system instead, if

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we have single payer, your employer no longer has to

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deduct that from your page, so that.

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Speaker 4: That's more money, match it more.

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Speaker 2: Money for you, right, and then you so you're not

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paying for it anymore and your employer isn't paying for

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it anymore. So that needs to be the response when

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someone says, well, how are we going to pay for

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all this? That's easy. You're already paying for it.

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Speaker 4: And it's not going to cost an I'm in a

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leg like it does now because the hospitals and.

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Speaker 6: The clinics and the doctor's office won't have the exorbitant

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money that they have to spend constantly on the phone

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with the insurance companies trying to get prior approval codes

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and trying and having peer to peer reviews and.

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Speaker 4: Going through appeals department.

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Speaker 3: I had a provider who at one point before they

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went into total private practice, they were in with a

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group of other providers and they had to hire an

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employee to do nothing all day, every day, Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 4: But blue cross blue shield denials of care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how expensive is that that employee? That hourly salary,

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social Security matching, the Medicare matching the health insurance, vacation time,

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six time, all of that for that employee to do

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nothing all day, every day, but appeals insurance companies. Let

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me let me make sure I say this, health insurance

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companies serve no purpose and have zero zero effect to

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increasing positive outcomes and healthcare. Give me any case, any

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medical case, and I challenge you to show me where

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the insurance company improved the outcome of that patient. If

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it's not a Cadillac policy that belongs to one of

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the freaking congress people, right, or some ceo who has

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a catalc. I'm talking about the same health insurance companies.

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Speaker 4: That you and I and everybody else in the working.

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Speaker 3: Class get those policies with the deductibles and the copase

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and the in network and the added network and all

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the bulshit just to get the medical care you need.

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The stress of loan cuts our life expectancy down. And

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that's exactly what they want. They only want us on

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the planet long enough to make them money and to

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serve them. And when that's not going to happen anymore,

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it's better for them if we kick off right.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing too that people need to

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say more. I say it all the time, but this

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is something that people need to repeat over and over

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again until everyone understands this. The insurance company they only

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want you. They only want you on one of their

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plans for as long as they're able to make money

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from you, from your monthly premiums, from whatever they get

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from your employer, whatever that money is. As long as

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you are profitable for them, they want to cover you.

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Once you get sick, and you get sick enough that

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you begin to cost them money. Now you're no longer

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an asset. Now you're a liability. Let's be very blunt.

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Need to speak very bluntly about this. The insurance company,

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once you go from being an asset to a liability,

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the insurance company wants you to die. That sounds stark,

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but that is the truth because once you are dead,

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you no longer cost them money. So once you get

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sick with something, they would prefer that you die. And

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if they can help you to die by denying you

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the healthcare that you need even though you fucking pay

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for it. If they can find some way to deny

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you that healthcare to help you to die, they will

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gladly help you to die. They want you to die

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as soon as you are costing them money instead of

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making them money. That's the problem. And look, I'm a capitalist, Okay,

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this is coming from a capitalist, but this is the

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problem with for profit healthcare. They would rather you die

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than cost them money. That is a fact, so.

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's partially why the narrative that they're putting

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out there now is when they talk about.

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Speaker 4: Medicare, they call it an entitlement.

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Speaker 3: When they talk about Social Security, they're calling it an entitlement.

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And we've got you know, it's all on umpteen videos

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of them saying this shit, and it's not an entitlement.

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These are insurance programs that you and I pay into

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our whole efort lives.

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Speaker 4: From the minute you start paying taxes, you stop paying.

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Speaker 3: In Medicare and Social Security and Disability Social Security Disability

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Insurance s sd EYE is insurance.

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Speaker 4: We pay for it for the just in case, just

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like you do at your job.

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Speaker 3: I have a long term disability private insurance, and we

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have a public Social Security disability insurance. These are the

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things that you pay for so that when it happens,

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if it happens to you, you have that to depend

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on and you bust your ass and you pay into

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it in every fucking paycheck.

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Speaker 4: Every job I had, I paid in every paycheck.

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Speaker 3: They got their cut, and if I made a lot

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of more, if I got overtime, they took a bigger

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fucking cut. Sometimes working overtime wasn't even worth it because

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they would take it all in taxes. You get in

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that spot where right here, I can make a little

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more money, but if I work X number of hours

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they take so much in taxes. I didn't end up

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getting home with fucking anything. Or until you get to

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the next bracket. You might get to keep a little more.

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You have to really kill yourself to see that in

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your paycheck.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, should we move on to the uh, yes,

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to the main subject that we were going to talk

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about today. So the other thing is h Trump is

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now threatening to send National Guard, deploy the National Guard

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in Chicago to help with crime. Yeah, I guess and yep,

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so putting more American military on the streets.

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Speaker 3: The news is reporting I saw this before you and

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I went live. Fox News is reporting that he wants

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to expand it to nineteen states, and they had a map.

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The majority of the states were in the southern region

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of the United States, so like Florida's on there. I

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believe the Carolina was on there, but there was nothing

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in the northeast. Really, everything was mostly in the lower

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part of the country.

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Speaker 4: Another nineteen states. He wants to deploy military troops on

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American soil against Americans.

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Speaker 2: Well they don't. So, you know, the people who support this,

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they don't look at it as because they, you know,

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maga look at I think they assume that not only

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every undocumented immigrant, or or even some immigrants who maybe

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are documented, you know, I I think I think from

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their point of view, they assume that everyone who's doing

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criminal activity is probably uh is probably an immigrant, documented

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or otherwise, because that's kind.

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Speaker 4: Of how criminal activity.

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Speaker 2: That's that's kind of how they view Can you say.

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Speaker 4: That some of these stops are really questionable?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, so what what's so interesting to me

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is and and you've you've pointed this out, you know,

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you mentioned it earlier. A lot of what Trump is

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doing are things that uh during the Obama administration, UH

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conservatives would rail against, even though Obama wasn't actually doing

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any of these things. But but they, you know, and

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I used to be you know, I was a co

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host on a show called Rock Paper hand Grenades, the

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late Garias Hopper, you know who. You know. I loved

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Gary and I miss him. But on that show, I

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interacted with a lot of people who thought that way,

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who had all these wild ideas with their very vivid

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imaginations about all these things that Obama was going to do.

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Obama was going to any day now, Obama was going

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to declare martial law. Obama was going to deploy American

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military in cities across the country. Obama was going to

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refuse to leave Yes at the end of his second.

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Speaker 3: Term and there will be some sort of terms and

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Alex Jones was railing on that, and so were libertarians

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across the country.

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Speaker 4: I was a Republican.

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Speaker 3: I served with Gary in the New Hampshire State House.

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And the foundation for some of the groups that have

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turned into really bizarre white supremacist organizations today were founded

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on the idea of keeping military away from citizens.

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Speaker 4: Positcomic.

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Speaker 3: And I'll give you the example of which where a

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lot of this started was when Katrina happened and US

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military National Guard went into Katrina to help. There were

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and there were videos of them going around and actually

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disarming people who had firearms they legally possessed in that state.

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And there's a famous video amongst conservatives, and and it

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is and I've.

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Speaker 4: Seen it a zillion times. You can go look it up.

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It's still up. It's last I checked. It was. Go

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on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: There's an elderly lady who is in an apartment building.

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She is elevated, she is not flooded in her apartment whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: She's on dry land. She's got food and shit in there,

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and she has a firearm.

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Speaker 3: And the GNAT the in the National Guard, along with

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whatever PD there was literally put this woman, this elderly

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woman who had to have been in.

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Speaker 4: Her seventy our eighties.

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Speaker 3: Against the wall, took the firearm from her and left

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because she didn't want to go anywhere, so they left

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her disarmed and unable to defend herself.

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Speaker 4: Why why that, you know, that was what we were

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railing against. Why this woman was doing nothing wrong. She

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was simply in her home, riding it out high and dry.

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Speaker 3: She's got food, she's got water, She's doing all right

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on her own accord.

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Speaker 4: And at the.

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Speaker 7: Same token, let's remember while this was going on, people

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had been moved into an astrodome that was subsequently not

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only flooded, but there were numerous accounts of rape and

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assault and theft because people were put into this with

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no policing whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: So they instead of having the.

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Speaker 3: National Guard and the dome policing, they had them out

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on fucking boats going to people's places and disarming them.

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Speaker 4: This is what we were talking about back then.

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Speaker 3: This is what we were talking and martial law could

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get declared and.

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Speaker 4: That whole aspect. Now, let's look at life today. The

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current Republican party has.

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Speaker 3: Now endorsed the police state that they used to rail against.

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We didn't want a police state, no military on our

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streets like they have in communist countries. We're not going

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to be North Korea. We're fucking North Korea. He's putting

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military on the streets. He's already done it in LA,

548
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excuse me, in DC, in LA, he's doing it now,

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going for Chicago, with plans to do another eighteen or

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so states. How long before it's in every state. What

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happened to states' rights and Tenth Amendment rights to states rights?

552
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What happened to posi coomatatis? No military against Americans, that's

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part of basic American law. These things have been completely

554
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thrown aside. Here's what I do know about myself now.

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I am not a Republican anymore. Trump maybe a Democrat

556
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a long time ago. And but I will say this,

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I'm still saying the same thing. The police state, they'll

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military on American soil against Americans.

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Speaker 4: I'm still saying that they're not.

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Speaker 3: They've changed, they've given up states rights, they've given up

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the rights of a country that wasn't supposed to be

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military run.

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Speaker 4: Like this is insanity to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, my perception I don't think

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in a sense they've changed, because of course they're you know,

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they're all in the cult. Not literally all of them,

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but most of them are in the cult. Most Republicans

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and the Trump called the Maga cult. So whatever their

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god king says goes, and they don't question anything. They

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question a little bit with Epstein, but the Epstein files,

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but even that's starting to fade away. Ultimately they'll go

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with what you know. I mean, Trump could tell these

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people the sky was green, and they'd all walk outside

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and look up and goah, I always thought it was blue,

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but yeah, I could kind of see it now. Yeah,

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So you know, the mindless herd of Maga will go in,

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we can spend how much.

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Speaker 3: Money on a parade, but we can't find healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Right, military parades and everything, all the stuff that they

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used to pretend to be creeped out by. But in

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another sense, they have not changed, because my perception of

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Republicans and conservatives has always been that they're they're basically

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pretty phony because they they're always inconsistent. Take take government

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spending for example, They're only fiscal conservatives when a Democrat

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is in the White House, When a Republican's in the

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White House. We've got money to burn as far as

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they're concerned, and they don't get it now.

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Speaker 7: They will take it from food stamps, that's true, Wick,

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that's true.

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Speaker 3: Housing assistance, Yeah, from feeding children in school.

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Speaker 2: We can take the money from all of that, right, right.

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Speaker 3: Or what is it forty for a billion some odd

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crazy dollars nationwide just from the schools or millions, I

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don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's a crazy right.

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Speaker 2: But but they'll they'll still take the money. Yeah, they'll

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they'll cut, they'll cut anything that helps people because, as

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I said, because you know, because conservatism is cruel in

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its nature now, but they will then of course, you know,

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they'll spend it elsewhere military spending. Not that I oppose

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all military spending. I do not. I'm not like a

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I'm not. I'm not far left from you need.

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Speaker 4: A strong defensey.

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Speaker 2: But but there is a lot of you know, there's

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a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in that zone,

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and of course, uh you know, all kinds of corporate

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welfare and.

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Speaker 3: How much money to cost to send him to Scotland

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beast and the ambulance and all the cars and all

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the so he could cut the ribbon on his own

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golf course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And now he's he's tax dollars to buy stock in Intel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that if Biden had done that.

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Oh my god, they go insane.

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Speaker 3: I done that, Obama said troops in Obama sent in

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troops into.

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Speaker 2: A any of this, any of this stuff. But it's true.

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Speaker 3: But the same people that claim we don't need this

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because the churches will do it, how come none of

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them are out front going, hey, my church is going

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to start, we're going to adopt the school, and we're

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gonna make sure that the kids have a healthy lunch

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every day.

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Speaker 4: We're going to take care of that. I haven't heard

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that yet.

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Speaker 3: You know, none of the food pantries are reporting in overabundance.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, a lot of them are

629
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running on empty and don't even have some basic staples

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in stock anymore. So I don't see it happening there. Buccos.

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Speaker 3: No, that's just the bullshit. You feed yourself so you

632
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could sleep at night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, this is all you know, they're they're

634
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all on board with whatever Trump does. So but yeah,

635
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but it is funny. I mean, there's so much of

636
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what Trumps does or has done. That Again, it's it's

637
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stuff that they They didn't talk about it as much

638
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,039
with Biden, not nearly as much, but but with Obama,

639
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all these crazy conspiracy theories about all this stuff he

640
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was going to do and to remain and power on

641
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martial law and everything. Oh, it's almost as though there

642
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,519
was something about Obama that was different somehow, because with

643
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,119
other Democratic presidents I can't remember the level of paranoia

644
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that they exhibited. It's almost as though there was something

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about Barack Obama that just freaked them out and just

646
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rock Obama really bothered them to their core. I can't

647
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think of exactly what it might have been, something about

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him that was different from any other president that just

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made them.

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Speaker 4: Maybe could have been that.

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Speaker 2: I also liked the duality with which they were able to,

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you know, this view, this this dichotomous way they were

653
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able to view Obama because they would talk about him

654
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like he was this this very weak, ffeckless leader, this

655
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incompetent guy who couldn't couldn't do anything right, and he

656
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was just just very very weak who also was going

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to single handedly destroy America. Yeah, I always thought that

658
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was interesting, But yeah, so yeah, they're gonna keep deploying troops.

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I mean obviously doing that in DC. Uh that was

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just h that was a test run. And by the way,

661
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part of why this works too with conservatives and why

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they're willing to go along with this again all this

663
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stuff that if a Democrat did it, they'd be melting down,

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is because it also feeds into the uh, what we

665
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call the blue cities fallacy, because conservatives love to talk

666
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about how, oh, all these Democrat run cities, Uh, they're

667
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they're also riddled with crime. Well, the reality is most

668
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,960
major metropolitan areas do have crime. That's part of being

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in a city. And most major metropolitan areas tend to

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be run by Democrats because that's who the people in

671
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those cities vote for. Urban areas tend to vote conservative. Uh,

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but uh, cities, metro areas, even in the suburbs, they

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vote Democrat. So that's who you get. So no matter

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who's in charge, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat,

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in any city in America, you're going to have crime.

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But they see they take that and they kind of

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twist it and say, oh, look that city's got a

678
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,960
high rate of crime and well, the mayor's a Democrat, see,

679
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you know, and it's it's bullshit.

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Speaker 4: Very much so.

681
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Speaker 3: But to say to bounce off of something that you

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had said, what was different about Obama? Right, Well, now

683
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put that in what we're looking at here with military

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and what Ice is doing there can they're they're unapologetically

685
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profiling people. There was a story I saw earlier of

686
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a kiddo that got stopped and taken because you know,

687
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he looked Mexican.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: So profile is now back, and not only that, but worse.

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Quotas quoters are very very bad in law enforcement for

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many many reasons, but the biggest one being is that

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because you make a quota, they will grab anybody and

693
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everybody that could potentially fit the bill and prove them

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guilty later. That's why we stopped allowing quotas in law

695
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enforcement was for that reason. That's why we don't allow

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it with speeding tickets. Remember we don't. I mean, average

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America will tell you they don't want quotas on tickets.

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Why because it encourages the cops to stop people for

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petty little shit instead of letting the petty little shit

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go and going after the speeder, the crazy driver, the

701
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person that's really going to cause an accident. They're pulling

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over the dude that doesn't have a seatbelt on, right,

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because they got to make their quota. This is why

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we don't want quotas in law enforcement. We shouldn't have them.

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Now we have them in spades. Now they want three

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thousand arrests for ice. And the reason that they're putting

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he's putting military under the guise of criminality. But they're

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also saying they are also being sent to assist ice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So we have the.

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Speaker 3: Military and law enforcement in every capacity profiling everybody on

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an American street, and if you potentially look like you

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might not be white, they're going to stop you in

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question your status and you have and they don't care.

715
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: Like, how many videos have you seen?

716
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: I know, I've seen quite a few of people yelling

717
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,480
I'm an American, I got rights, I got rights.

718
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:36,599
Speaker 4: Oh you don't have no rights, dude, Now, you ain't

719
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,400
get no rights here. Yeah, but I'm an American. Now

720
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:41,920
you're not. No, you're not.

721
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,599
Speaker 3: And they take them and they make their quota. That's

722
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,320
why they take them, and they don't listen to them,

723
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,679
and they don't check their ID, and they don't do

724
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,119
any of the things they're supposed to do because we've

725
00:39:55,159 --> 00:40:00,000
given them permission to no longer follow the rules. Yeah,

726
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,840
uh yeah, and it's snowballing. And now he wants to

727
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,960
do this in nineteen states. Yeah, and you know, you know,

728
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,760
and gee, why are we targeting Chicago?

729
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,559
Speaker 4: Why is Chicago next?

730
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,039
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Well Obama's from there originally?

731
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,599
Speaker 4: Oh is that? Could there be any other reasons?

732
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,519
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know.

733
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: You know, there's an awful lot of people there who

734
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,519
are not white.

735
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and definitely they're targeting people.

736
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,039
Speaker 4: They're targeting black and brown people.

737
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: They want to catch anybody in anybody that can remotely

738
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,280
decide is illegal, even if you're here legally, you have

739
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,280
a green card, you've done everything right, They just okay.

740
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:57,960
In Maine, there was a police officer in Maine hired

741
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,719
obviously by the town is H one B.

742
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,039
Speaker 4: Did everything correct.

743
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 3: Dudes from Jamaica had H one B visa green card

744
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,599
all nine yards. He's been a working police officer for

745
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:09,719
like twenty fucking years.

746
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:11,159
Speaker 4: They he just had.

747
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,199
Speaker 3: He just ended up having to self deport to Jamaica.

748
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,039
Because if you don't self deport and you're forcefully deported,

749
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,559
it's a blemish on you that can prohibit you from

750
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,800
ever coming back to the country. If you self deport,

751
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,119
you still have the chance of coming back. And that's

752
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,880
why some folks are choosing to do that because it's

753
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,360
it's it's your hail Mary to be able to see

754
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,880
your family again in person and not through a computer screen.

755
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 2: So what we need to do, if there were any

756
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:48,519
political will to do this is, you know, because I

757
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:51,079
always say, we're doing things in the wrong order, we

758
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:54,599
need a massive, comprehensive overhaul of our immigration system first,

759
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:56,880
and then we can figure out who to remove, because

760
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239
I'm all for you know, deporting criminals, but you know

761
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,599
they should actually be criminals. But we also need to,

762
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,800
you know, we need to figure out a way to

763
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,760
bring people out of the shadows, have a have a

764
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,840
program where people can apply for citizenship or some form

765
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,320
of legal status like the individual and main you were

766
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,079
just speaking about.

767
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,639
Speaker 4: But they did, they did all of that.

768
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need something. We need something much simpler

769
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:28,000
that would be prefer you know, and we need these

770
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:29,719
people in the country. And this is the other part

771
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,840
I wish, and again I wish Democrats would say this

772
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,079
because but they don't because they're bad at messaging. But

773
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,079
this is something that needs to be explained to people.

774
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,639
And I say it all the time.

775
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

776
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 2: You know, immigrants, no matter how much you know, you

777
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:46,039
can look, you cannot like brown people all you want to,

778
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,239
but you need them here. They are essential to the economy.

779
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,280
Immigrants are essential to the regardless of how they entered.

780
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:56,280
They are essential to our nation's economy.

781
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: Look, we've already got fruits rotten on the vine and.

782
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, these.

783
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: Farmers wine now and then they're not getting the subsidies

784
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,960
anymore from the government.

785
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 4: So they're going to go belly up.

786
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

787
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: And then the big companies like Walmart are going to

788
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,239
come in and buy it and take it over so

789
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,559
they can make because you know, they got their own

790
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,519
chicken and shit. Yeah, so these companies are going to

791
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,199
come in and buy up these farms, and the farmers

792
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,000
are going to end up working the land just the same, but.

793
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 4: They're going to be working it for Walmart or.

794
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,039
Speaker 3: Fill in the blank, whatever, why basket whomever.

795
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,039
Speaker 2: You're just gonna drive up food prices. I always say,

796
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:37,199
if you could wave some sort of xenophobic magic wand

797
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:39,840
and all of a sudden, everybody you don't like wasn't

798
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,360
in the country anymore. Our economy would collapse overnight. It would,

799
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,719
it would. People don't believe you though, No, that people

800
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,079
don't believe. But it's well an economists. Economists believe that though.

801
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,719
Ask any economists, I'll tell you these people are essential

802
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,320
to the economy, like you need to fix the system.

803
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,599
Speaker 3: My girlfriend and I sometimes we like to go to

804
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,360
the dollar store, and there are a number of dollar

805
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,400
stores around here that are closing in unusual hours because

806
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,840
they don't have the staff to stay open, right, I mean,

807
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,159
like three o'clock in the afternoon, they're closing, or they

808
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,280
are closed because they don't have the staff to stay open.

809
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,280
All these places you go to that are understaffed, and

810
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000
that's happening across the board.

811
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: Understaffed.

812
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: In medicine, you'd be surprised at how many people are

813
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:31,760
in medicine working on green cards. We have doctors, nurses,

814
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,039
all kinds of specialties.

815
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 4: What we don't have is a rising rank.

816
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: Of those coming up that are going to become the

817
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,599
doctors of tomorrow to take care of us.

818
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the current crop completely retires.

819
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,119
Speaker 2: Well, and if you're if you're here with a green card.

820
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,119
I mean the way they keep changing the rules now

821
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,400
to find excuses to get rid of more people, get

822
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,679
rid of more immigrants. If you're if you are a

823
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,000
green card holder, you know you got to be worried

824
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:00,639
that you're you're green car card is going to get

825
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,960
pulled early and they're not going to be all the

826
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,360
renew your status. You know, there's all kinds of shit

827
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,119
that could go wrong.

828
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 4: And this is that green this is that quota.

829
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: That's why that's why ICE is raiding Lowells is raiding

830
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,239
farms where.

831
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: People are actually working.

832
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: And they actually exactly and they actually get paychecks and

833
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,480
pay taxes and shit like right right the easy because

834
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,599
it's easy pickens. It's just like the state trooper that

835
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,119
sits at the bottom of a hill that jumps from

836
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,079
fifty miles an hour to thirty five because he knows

837
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,760
he can snag anybody right there.

838
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing.

839
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:43,039
Speaker 3: They're going to the courthouses where people who who have

840
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,679
legal documentation, they're following the rules, they've done everything right.

841
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,400
They're going in for a hearing that they're required to

842
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,840
go to, and all of a sudden, their cases are

843
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,599
being dismissed, and that enables ICE.

844
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: To pick them up. Ye see, it's a pending case.

845
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,320
Ice can't get them. Yeah, Ice is there. Yeah, we

846
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,079
want you to dismiss d D D da da.

847
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: They dismiss those cases and they pick those people up

848
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,920
easy pickens. I'm getting my three thousand a day quota. Yeah,

849
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,760
because that's the that's the quota. It's three thousand a day. Yeah.

850
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: Well, when you run out of illegals, where do you

851
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,480
go if that's your claim? Yeah, so, and they did

852
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:29,400
that a long time ago.

853
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,519
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe in the beginning, they were picking up people

854
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:34,599
who were criminalized, and occasionally they grab somebody who is

855
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,440
a criminal who has done terrible things, who doesn't have

856
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,719
a deportation order, and that's the person that absolutely, yes,

857
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,760
we don't want the Cereal rapists to be in the country.

858
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:49,760
Of course, when you go into the ice cream man

859
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,199
who's served this community for over twenty years, he's got

860
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:57,159
a green car, done everything right, pays his taxes.

861
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: And you literally take him because he's easy pickings.

862
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. And as far as the people who are here illegally,

863
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,880
because you know, there will always be people who will

864
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,719
say and you know, like I have a family member

865
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,159
who will say this, and I'll get a series of

866
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:14,119
angry text messages from them, I'm sure after today's show.

867
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:17,840
But you know, well, Matt, what about the people who

868
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:20,519
entered the country illegally? They they committed a crime, and

869
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,760
technically it's a misdemeanor.

870
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,639
Speaker 3: If you want to remember, those people want it to

871
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:27,280
be a felony.

872
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: Though, Oh I know, I know, but but you know,

873
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:34,360
the people who look in a better world, obviously I

874
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,639
would want everyone to enter the country legally. And I'm

875
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,119
not you know, I'm not for open borders there. You know,

876
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:42,559
as a sovereign nation, we have every right to protect

877
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,000
our border and control who comes in and out and

878
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,039
who knows who comes in and all of that right.

879
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,400
But here's the thing though, this is and again I

880
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,400
wish this is something I wish democrats would say when

881
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,199
having these arguments. Regardless of how you feel about people

882
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:05,239
coming into the country illegally, we built an economy that

883
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,039
depends on people coming into the country illegally to work

884
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:15,519
on these farms and in these factories and in hospitality.

885
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,480
Maybe if all of you who have such a problem,

886
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:23,440
who are so mad about these people who broke our

887
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,519
laws coming into the country illegally. Well, maybe we shouldn't

888
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:29,719
have built an economy that depends on them, and it

889
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,400
does depend on them, so but we did. We built

890
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,719
an economy that depends on these people. So now that

891
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,119
we've done that, let's acknowledge that. Let's own that and

892
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,960
now fix the system.

893
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 4: In one self, let me pay devil's advocate. Here's the

894
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,599
other side.

895
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,559
Speaker 5: Oh but see, all of the lazy Americans who are

896
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:58,519
collecting entitlements are going to take over those service industry jobs,

897
00:48:58,599 --> 00:48:59,800
in farm worker jobs.

898
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it because this is an invisible number

899
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,800
of people who don't fucking exist.

900
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,119
Speaker 4: They're gonna fill these blanks because, in case.

901
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: You hadn't noticed, the dollar store was closed in at

902
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,079
three ninety percent of the retail stores I go to.

903
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 4: Don't have enough staff.

904
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the medical industry does not have enough staff.

905
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,679
There are plenty of wonderful jobs out there that aren't staffed.

906
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,679
And it's not because of america laziest. It's because America

907
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,960
stopped having eight and ten fucking kids. Yeah, we stopped

908
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,239
having babies left, right and center.

909
00:49:35,559 --> 00:49:38,119
Speaker 4: So women couldn't have babies anymore because we didn't believe

910
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:39,159
in any kind of birth control.

911
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: That stopped, and when we stopped having supersized families, there

912
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,960
weren't people to fill the void in the holes that

913
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,239
are now occurring. I'm an only child, and I know

914
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,840
a lot of people who are only children.

915
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,599
Speaker 4: In my generation.

916
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

917
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: My dad's generation people had like four or five kids,

918
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:06,760
but my grandmother's generation they had like eight and kids,

919
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,559
and that has progressively changed generation after generation. So there

920
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:15,239
doesn't exist this invisible number of people who are going

921
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,199
to miraculously jump up out of the corn weaves.

922
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: And stop picking.

923
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen. It's just not gonna happen.

924
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: Are the number of people in the United States who

925
00:50:26,039 --> 00:50:28,519
are lazy and don't work, of course, but it makes

926
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:31,320
up about one percent. Because we have a system that

927
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,199
is so fucking hard to get into.

928
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: People don't understand.

929
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: And I challenge conservatives to go to their social departments

930
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:43,480
and find out just how hard it is to get

931
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,960
food stamps to get wick make it do They don't

932
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,920
make it easy.

933
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: And that's intentional.

934
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: That's to make sure that the people who need it

935
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,880
are getting it, and that's also to weed out people

936
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,079
who aren't allowed to get it. Which includes somebody who

937
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,599
is not in the country, who he's an undocumented soul

938
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,039
who doesn't have papers with them. That person can't get

939
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,119
them because they don't have the papers.

940
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: You have to have papers.

941
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: You have to be a documented human being in the

942
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,920
country or a citizen to even remotely come close to

943
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,719
qualifying it. People think that you just go in there

944
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,360
and go, hey, I'm hungry, here's.

945
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 4: Two hundred bucks of stamps. It doesn't work like that.

946
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't really die, no, and.

947
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: It never has. It never has, I can remember. I'll

948
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,320
tell you a quick story. When I was very very young,

949
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:43,360
when I was twenty two going right twenty to twenty

950
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,440
three years old, I was told I could not have children,

951
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and then suddenly I got pregnant. I had been married

952
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:53,760
for a couple of years and my husband, who's passed

953
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,920
away at the time at the time, got appendicitis right

954
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,199
after I got let go for my job because me

955
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,599
being young, stupid, and naive, I had a job that

956
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:07,000
I was within ninety days. I hadn't passed my ninety

957
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,480
days yet and I was working with chemicals, and shit,

958
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,800
I'm all excited and I say, hey, I'm pregnant.

959
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,199
Speaker 4: Well, the next day they fired me. Now I filed

960
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:19,800
for unemployment. I won. They lied.

961
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: They provided my time cards and it showed that I

962
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:27,280
never missed time. So I actually collected unemployment because they

963
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:32,880
illegally fired me. That said, he was out of work

964
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,400
with appendicitist emergency surgery and I was out of work.

965
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So we had an entire month of no income and

966
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:44,360
it was and we were only allowed to get emergency

967
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,239
food stamps.

968
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: I remember this for It was two hundred bucks.

969
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: It was emergency, one time allotment only, and that was it. It

970
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:56,880
didn't matter that I was now unemployed, even though he

971
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,480
was going back to work. He was going back to work,

972
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,840
so that was that was fine, that's enough. You got

973
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,119
it for the one month for emergency.

974
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: And that was it.

975
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

976
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: Now these programs aren't handouts, Nope, they're very difficult to get,

977
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:19,239
and they are things that we pay for because we

978
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,440
don't want people to die and starve in our society

979
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:26,199
like they do in other countries. Right apparently that's changing now,

980
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Apparently we'd rather let people starve to death. We want

981
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,639
children to go hungry in schools like I've got. It's

982
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,480
kind of does it surprise you? Like how vigorously and

983
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,960
aggressive they are to take away school lunch.

984
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:44,159
Speaker 2: Oh no, nothing, nothing surprises me anymore. I mean, you

985
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:46,639
know G's Nazis and conquered. Didn't even surprise me. No,

986
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,199
nothing surprises me anymore.

987
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean, why why are we trying to not feed children?

988
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
What happened to you Christian values? It is scouting.

989
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 4: We're ch right.

990
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: If I wake up tomorrow to martial law having been declared,

991
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it won't.

992
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: Be surprised to see them when their elections get suspended

993
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:06,800
so there's no midterm.

994
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're already trying to jerry me into that. Yeah.

995
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: How long is it before two states goes into nineteen

996
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,119
states goes into all fifty fucking states that we now

997
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:22,639
have National Guard and appointed law enforcement officers over the

998
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,880
law enforcement officers that were elected.

999
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:29,559
Speaker 4: Or in or appointed by our own state. States rights

1000
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:30,199
be damned.

1001
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, they like to talk about

1002
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:35,480
states rights. But again, it's only it's like I said,

1003
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,079
whether it's that or fiscal policy or you know, it's

1004
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,800
only you know, it's only when.

1005
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 4: When it's convenient to their convenience, when.

1006
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,599
Speaker 2: It's convenient for them, they'll they'll they'll flip on anything that,

1007
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:50,360
you know, if they can, if they can find a

1008
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,519
way to hurt people. I mean, that's that's a big,

1009
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:53,320
big part of it.

1010
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:57,079
Speaker 3: Military in the streets. And they did just change it

1011
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,679
now too that now they're going to carry arms. Of course,

1012
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:05,039
they weren't carrying guns. They were just there supposedly to assist.

1013
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:08,559
But now they're current carrying ak's down the street and

1014
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:13,119
patrolling the street, you know, like we're living in fucking China.

1015
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:14,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

1016
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: No just And then they had the right to just

1017
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,320
simply pick somebody up off and take them off, yeah,

1018
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,440
and take off with them.

1019
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1020
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:29,679
Speaker 3: No, due process when you throw in that, people are

1021
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,320
so quick to throw away due process rights to so

1022
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,400
called undocumented people. Do they not understand they're doing that.

1023
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,880
They're opening that for us, for the rest of America,

1024
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,639
for other America. It's not It doesn't just stop with one.

1025
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:47,800
It never does. The proverbial nose under the camel's tent.

1026
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. They'll also try to rationalize it by saying, well,

1027
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,719
the Constitution only applies to Americans, which is not true. No,

1028
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,559
that's a misunderstanding. It applies to anyone in the country. Yeah,

1029
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,840
it applies to anyone within our borders. Yeah.

1030
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Uh, we are militarizing of our country. Yeah, and

1031
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,079
they're gonna make it they want And what is it

1032
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,480
we used to say all the time back in the day.

1033
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,400
They want you to get used to seeing that. They

1034
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,639
want to become normalized, for you to see military walking

1035
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,000
down the street carrying ak's military gear.

1036
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: They want you to be that. Yes, they want you

1037
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:28,840
in fear of it.

1038
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: Yes, they want you to mind your p's and q's

1039
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,239
and not speak poorly of them out of fear of

1040
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,079
being arrested.

1041
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: That's right, absolutely, that is what they want. All right. Well,

1042
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,960
I think on that note, was there anything else you

1043
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:53,159
wanted to mention or talk about. I don't think so, Okay,

1044
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,920
all right very much, Yeah, yeah, no, we can we

1045
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,800
can stop on that and I'll get this into the Yeah.

1046
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: I think this is a good place to stop.

1047
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I hope that people will stand up, speak up.

1048
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,719
You have to get up, and you have to get active.

1049
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,320
This isn't politics as usual. Right in the old days,

1050
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:16,880
Democrats and Republicans worked across party lines came to agreements

1051
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,519
that were suitable for most. Now it's this right, extreme

1052
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:26,920
right ring rule and a regime that is militarizing our

1053
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,360
country and this cannot be the America that you want.

1054
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:33,960
So you've got to get active. And if you're not

1055
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,559
sure how to do that, reach out. Be happy to

1056
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:39,159
bring you in and show you what we're doing and

1057
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:42,119
what other people are doing, and hopefully bring in your

1058
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:46,639
ideas to combat this because we have got to or

1059
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:48,880
democracy is dead. And I don't say that to just

1060
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,119
throw that out there, but for real, if there's if

1061
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:57,280
there's military in the streets and there's no there's nobody

1062
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:03,599
holding anybody accountable, this isn't democracy, this is fascism.

1063
00:58:04,519 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. All right, Jenny, you want to

1064
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280
mention your website for people to keep up with everything

1065
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:10,840
that you're doing.

1066
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, come check out what I'm doing.

1067
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,719
Speaker 3: Actually, it just got my first byline on Common Dreams.

1068
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,639
I'm super proud of that. Read all about it in

1069
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:21,159
my blog and other things coming up at Gencoffee dot com.

1070
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,440
J E N n c O F f e y

1071
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dot com.

1072
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:27,119
Speaker 2: And you can learn more about me at Matt Connorton

1073
00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,800
dot com and all my various podcasting and radio endeavors. Also,

1074
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,920
if you'd like to book or learn about having a

1075
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,400
hypnotherapy session, we can do that too, so you can

1076
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,559
reach me that way. And of course go to ipmnation

1077
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:44,360
dot com for services if you need digital marketing services

1078
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,679
or promotional services for your music or any other type

1079
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:51,079
of venture podcast or whatever it may be ipmnation dot com.

1080
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And if you are streaming this live on Sunday, just

1081
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,639
a quick reminder. On Monday, which will be the twenty fifth,

1082
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,960
at I believe, at five pm, we're going to do

1083
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,679
a stream with Vices Inc. About vices Fest which is

1084
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:10,440
coming up next weekend Labor Day weekend at the Strand

1085
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:13,679
and Dover. It is an amazing three day festival and

1086
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000
looking forward to learning more about that. There's gonna be

1087
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:17,400
a lot of great bands. There are many of whom

1088
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,639
who have been on the show over the past couple

1089
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:22,360
of years. So all right, that's it for us for now,

1090
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,679
Thanks Jenny, and we'll talk to you a little bit later.

1091
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:30,440
Bye everybody, Bye bye Commander.

1092
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Speaker 1: Don't get Supremelna megxill coming.

1093
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: I st