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Speaker 3: show notes and let's jump right into it today. Joining
Speaker 3: us today from Canada is Dan Dan. Good morning, sir,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for taking the time to join
Speaker 3: us today.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me as a guest. I've
Speaker 4: been listening to this program since the second one dropped.
Speaker 4: Really wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's interesting to tell the folks how you
Speaker 3: came upon it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I have audio books and one day it
Speaker 4: flatters files came on. Another thing is I've only looked
Speaker 4: at one flat Earth video years ago, only once. I
Speaker 4: don't talk about it. I'm not opposed to it. I
Speaker 4: kind of believed it, but yeah, it just showed up,
Speaker 4: and I'm like audio books, first podcast ever hit play
Speaker 4: like this all makes sense. I know the players, right,
Speaker 4: i'man in conspiracy world pretty much my whole life, so
Speaker 4: it was not a stretch to believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you would go back and kind of
Speaker 3: first introduce yourself but also talk about I mean you've
Speaker 3: been awake for what forty five years or so?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, Well it all started in our farm. My
Speaker 4: dad was a baby Christian and I would have been
Speaker 4: five years old. He became a Christian when I was
Speaker 4: born in Edmonton and we just moved to this farm
Speaker 4: and he used witching so he didn't know that witching
Speaker 4: rods were. He thought this just a cool little gimmick.
Speaker 4: So we found this well and the animals would stay
Speaker 4: away from it. It was a weird thing. But then
Speaker 4: one day he's out with my brother and I was
Speaker 4: with the babysitter and our German shepherd wolf cross, so
Speaker 4: not our skittish animal comes flying into the room and
Speaker 4: we look to see what's going on and we seem
Speaker 4: literally physical manifestations of two demonics. Beans come running down
Speaker 4: our hallway, turn across the bedroom, and right from there
Speaker 4: I knew that the world definitely isn't what we're seeing.
Speaker 4: And when we told our dad, he came in, got
Speaker 4: a deacon come home, they prayed, and then that's the
Speaker 4: first time I actually seeing the power of the Word
Speaker 4: of Jesus Christ work. So right there, like my whole life,
Speaker 4: there's power in the Word. So I'm in a Christian
Speaker 4: my whole life, and a conspiracy theorism my whole life,
Speaker 4: because you can't make that stuff up. It's not fake.
Speaker 4: And let me ask you make no, No, you're good.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to inject real quick if I could
Speaker 3: ask you a question, why do you think and I
Speaker 3: believe you? I want to just say I believe you.
Speaker 3: I don't think you would come in here and make
Speaker 3: that up. But I wanted to go a step further
Speaker 3: with that and ask you, do you think you were
Speaker 3: able to see that because of your discernment or because
Speaker 3: I believe there are demons among us?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: If you read the books like we were talking about
Speaker 3: the book Reversing Herman, the Watchers, et cetera. How is
Speaker 3: it that you think that you were able to see
Speaker 3: this and others may not be able to see this?
Speaker 4: Well, this is more of my recent theory, and that
Speaker 4: is I firmly believed that every human being, well I
Speaker 4: now know everybody human being has their own frequency, and
Speaker 4: I come to the belief that if you're close to
Speaker 4: their frequencies, they could I think they can overlap. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking. It's kind of a nerdy answer, but
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's why you get some people who can
Speaker 4: see them interact them. This has been a lifetime thing
Speaker 4: for me. You've had guests. What's a lifetime thing for
Speaker 4: them and it sounds like bonkers. So I'm from this
Speaker 4: geneticist who told me a lot of stuff. That's where
Speaker 4: I get the idea that maybe we're just in a
Speaker 4: frequency that is really closer to them and the kind
Speaker 4: of cross path kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And for the listener who has maybe never looked into
Speaker 3: this before, you know, we're told that the human body
Speaker 3: vibrates and puts out these frequencies. I think it's somewhere
Speaker 3: between three and seventeen hurts. Is that basically what we're
Speaker 3: talking about? Or is there something deeper than that? You believe?
Speaker 4: Ah, you know what, I would think it's actually that
Speaker 4: the frequencies, I mean, because you got some people that
Speaker 4: are really God fearing people and they never experience this.
Speaker 4: I mean, to be quite honest, the most unbelieving people
Speaker 4: that I have ever met about spirituals and demons or angels,
Speaker 4: right are people who are at the church. They seem
Speaker 4: to not want to accept it, but you can go
Speaker 4: on the street and they'll accept it, which just makes
Speaker 4: no sense to me.
Speaker 3: And that's interesting because most of the people in the
Speaker 3: church aren't going to tolerate a flatter of conversation either, right.
Speaker 4: No, I actually was. My mom's the only one that's
Speaker 4: in the family that's gainst it. I guess my one
Speaker 4: sister is too, But the rest of them are like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it makes perfect sense. So I told her, I said,
Speaker 4: does God lie? Ever, She's like, no, does he care.
Speaker 4: God's not a respect to a person, so he doesn't
Speaker 4: care if you're offended by the truth or not. The
Speaker 4: truth is the truth. So then I brought him the
Speaker 4: verse in job. I said, this isn't him saying it's
Speaker 4: like a ring pressed down in clay. He said, it
Speaker 4: is looks like a ring press That's a literal statement,
Speaker 4: not a Oh my goodness, you know you're nervous because
Speaker 4: it's an international podcast.
Speaker 3: No, I got you. I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 4: What it's not a theoretical thing he was saying, it
Speaker 4: was a literal thing, right, And then she goes, well,
Speaker 4: I don't have that version. Yeah you do, because I
Speaker 4: bought you that Bible. It was a historic I bought
Speaker 4: our historic Bible. So you get a better understanding of
Speaker 4: what the verses should be. Because as a teenager, I
Speaker 4: believed that if you want to write a book for
Speaker 4: all time, you write it in the time you're at
Speaker 4: because people can look back, and so when I go,
Speaker 4: let's find out what they lived like, so we get
Speaker 4: a better context of what they're trying to say.
Speaker 3: That's in a statement because when I research for my
Speaker 3: other podcast, whether it's nine to eleven or Vietnam or
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, I will go back and look at the
Speaker 3: news articles during that time frame, and it's very interesting
Speaker 3: that the original statements that happen around that time versus
Speaker 3: what they tell us today, and it's astounding how different
Speaker 3: they are. It is important to go find that literature
Speaker 3: or a video from that time frame, and in many cases,
Speaker 3: if not most cases, it gives a very different story.
Speaker 4: Yep. And I'll watch a documentary or step on it.
Speaker 4: I'll watch tons because I know most of it is
Speaker 4: going to be politicized, and so I look for what
Speaker 4: I always said as a kid in school, the truth
Speaker 4: is in the footnotes, not in the big pages that
Speaker 4: you're looking at. So I look for the things that
Speaker 4: are a little off but make more sense on a
Speaker 4: bigger picture. Like pro Earl Harbor was one that was
Speaker 4: should be quite obvious. It was a con job. You
Speaker 4: knew battleships were useless, and so you line them up
Speaker 4: all pretty like, and you knew aircraft carriers are good.
Speaker 4: They just magically weren't there. And your president, which I
Speaker 4: think it was in Library of Congress a couple of
Speaker 4: months ago released, said you couldn't search that area for
Speaker 4: ten days. Yep, and you put all your old, outdated
Speaker 4: planes in little circles so they all blow up. It's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: this was I guess a false flag where people die.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This this book right here, they have de Seat
Speaker 3: by Robert stint At. Everybody should read it. They knew
Speaker 3: about FDR and everybody knew about that weeks in advance.
Speaker 4: Oh, lots of them. Like I look, Operation Overlord. They
Speaker 4: were never going on June fifth, June sixth, the sixth
Speaker 4: month of the sixth day, at the six thirty six
Speaker 4: six sixth that Operation Overlord are Overlord. Even at the
Speaker 4: invasion into I think it was Sicily they waited for
Speaker 4: what the feast of Moloch or something like that. They
Speaker 4: rushed the invasion Caltic dates both sides just a happy accident,
Speaker 4: I guess. And same with World War One, you.
Speaker 3: Know eleven eleven, eleven thirty three. Okay, sure, you're the
Speaker 3: same with JFK eleven, twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, once you start knowing their symbolisms and their numbers,
Speaker 4: that's and then looking at history Babylonian religion. This is
Speaker 4: where I have about twenty ten. I'm looking at Babylonian
Speaker 4: history and I'm like, all these symbols wind up in
Speaker 4: the Catholic Church in one form or another. And that's
Speaker 4: when I got to my road. Okay, and then I discovered,
Speaker 4: oh wait, the Catholic Church invented Islam because they hate
Speaker 4: Muslims and Arabs and they knew that would keep them down. Yep, Like,
Speaker 4: oh my goodness. And right now I'm studying the Koran,
Speaker 4: and what a Bonker's book that is. That's a great quote.
Speaker 4: He says, if you read the Koran, you're a Muslim,
Speaker 4: but if you understand it or conex Muslim.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 4: It's just ludicrous, like perfect world. Well, that would be
Speaker 4: a great piece of literature if I was hopped up
Speaker 4: EIGHTHD grade three person who wrote that. But it is
Speaker 4: just unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure is. I wanted to touch on something you
Speaker 3: included in your original email, which was I think it
Speaker 3: was your cousin who was an intercontinental pilot airline pilot.
Speaker 4: She is a captain. She flies seven forty sevens and
Speaker 4: other jumbo jets. So again I didn't really look into flatter.
Speaker 4: When I look into something started breaking it down quick,
Speaker 4: like the moon landing or anything like that. But when
Speaker 4: I'm not, it's just kind of in the background. So
Speaker 4: she had a birthday wrapped up a gift in one
Speaker 4: of her flight plans when they used to be now
Speaker 4: the year old digital. So she wraps this thing up
Speaker 4: and they're much larger than you think. They're not quite
Speaker 4: as big as the road maps that you get at
Speaker 4: the gas station member those, but there are quite large
Speaker 4: enough to wrap a gift. So she puts it out there,
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at this thing, and I'm looking at her,
Speaker 4: and I look at this again, and then the third
Speaker 4: time she gives me like that you know that tilted head.
Speaker 4: Don't say it look. I'm like, honestly, didn't clue, And
Speaker 4: I just thought, this is a weird way of laying
Speaker 4: things out right, Because you fly in from California to Australia,
Speaker 4: why are you passing, you know, Washington State, British Columbia
Speaker 4: coming down to the Alaskan coast. I'm like, this makes
Speaker 4: no sense. So I've seen this map and I look
Speaker 4: for it. I didn't know it's called the Gleason map
Speaker 4: at the time, but I seen one and it was
Speaker 4: a real deal flightplan. So she very creatively gets spaghetti
Speaker 4: sauce on it and throws it out so that does
Speaker 4: no longer have it. So I think she realized, like,
Speaker 4: I'm so used to this thing that oops off of go,
Speaker 4: so now she I think she knows I can't get
Speaker 4: more of them. I'm trying to figure out how to
Speaker 4: get somebody to get some from me.
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's possible if you go on eBay
Speaker 3: to find an old pilot's what was it called a
Speaker 3: flight route book or.
Speaker 4: Something, so just flight plan that's what she called it.
Speaker 3: The flight plans.
Speaker 4: That's right, every flight plan. They have another one her.
Speaker 4: All the flights and all the planes and altitudes and
Speaker 4: the directions that they're going is on there, tons of planes,
Speaker 4: and then you just have hers and then she follows it.
Speaker 3: Well, if you have a fair forty five dollars, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of eighteen vintage aeronautical chart maps and flight
Speaker 3: plans on eBay for sale and the twelve Golden Rules.
Speaker 3: I might just get this.
Speaker 4: I actually also seen in a viet not a Vietnam,
Speaker 4: a Korean War documentary. I recorded the little clips on
Speaker 4: my phone. They showed the bombers and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's a flat earth map that they just threw on
Speaker 4: the globe because the continent's in the wrong spot.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And Netflix's newest World War two one had the very
Speaker 4: last scene of flat earth map on a ball, but
Speaker 4: that was removed. I think, of course, I got rid
Speaker 4: of Netflix, but I showed people like I know a
Speaker 4: lot of flat earthers. My friend's dad who was an
Speaker 4: airline he's on airline, but he was a mechanic, and
Speaker 4: he goes, oh, you finally figured out the world's flat. Really,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I knew for quite a while, but
Speaker 4: his son finally had the guts to talum. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, Well, when you're in the mountains, you
Speaker 4: don't see it too much, right. So it was a
Speaker 4: David Weiss video, and I knew all the players involved.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, so I got out and I'm sitting
Speaker 4: there going the mountain comes because you live in the mountains,
Speaker 4: you can't really do these measurements. I'm like, so the
Speaker 4: sun comes here. If we're a ball spinning this way,
Speaker 4: why does the sun hook so far down into the
Speaker 4: States and then come hooking all the way back up
Speaker 4: the lake? And like, well, we can't be wobbling. So
Speaker 4: I started looking into the flat earth. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you can't be wobbling and not wobbling at three different degrees.
Speaker 4: And it just became ridiculous so fast that you like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my last guest made a pretty you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: you hear these things and you're like, why can't we
Speaker 3: break it down as simple as that. If we're really
Speaker 3: hurdling through space as fast as we are, how is
Speaker 3: it that the stars aren't just right there. There's no
Speaker 3: way that we're symmetrically flying at the same speed. It's impossible.
Speaker 4: I was telling a guy that I'm trying to One
Speaker 4: guy is so deep into the matrix. I think he's
Speaker 4: got intravenous redill blue pill. But he was like, you know,
Speaker 4: the consolations move, And I said, well, it's weird because
Speaker 4: we have all these stock all right monuments, and some
Speaker 4: of them you got the holy place you stand on
Speaker 4: the wall and then you look at the wall and
Speaker 4: there's holes in the walls and the constellation still lines
Speaker 4: up three and a half thousand years later. It's like,
Speaker 4: what did he just pre guess it? Like? Hello, So
Speaker 4: there's a few guys I'm working on at work. I
Speaker 4: was like, going, they were worried about the meteor. The
Speaker 4: meteor's coming. I said, oh, you mean a media that's
Speaker 4: probably going to be conveniently out of eyesight and conveniently
Speaker 4: out of commercial grade telescope, so nobody who other than
Speaker 4: the specialist can see it. And he goes launch a
Speaker 4: nuclear missile. I go, well, nuclear missiles would need a
Speaker 4: chain reaction. If there's nothing there, what's a chain reacting
Speaker 4: on it? And I said, then you got a bigger problem.
Speaker 4: I said, go home, check out NASA's vacuum chamber tests
Speaker 4: and see that nothing can float, you can't fly, and
Speaker 4: you can't direct anything. So if nothing can float, fly
Speaker 4: or redirect, how are you getting the missile there? And
Speaker 4: then I started telling him we're going this way and
Speaker 4: the sun's going this way, and we're spinning this way
Speaker 4: and deer in the headlight kind of thing. But he
Speaker 4: did look it up and he's like huh, so it's
Speaker 4: nothing to worry about. Yeah, we got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3: But that's actually unusual because most people, when you have
Speaker 3: that conversation, will completely write it off that they won't
Speaker 3: even take the time to research it, because that's how
Speaker 3: you know. That's how deep the psychology goes on many people.
Speaker 4: I looked into that, and I think I figured it out.
Speaker 4: I was wondering, why do people go so nuts on
Speaker 4: flat earth yep, to the point of not even being
Speaker 4: friends with the persons. It's ill logical. If somebody said
Speaker 4: they've seen aliens, you wouldn't think twice of it. So
Speaker 4: I was reading or looking into dark psychology, and in
Speaker 4: there they're talking about how you can hypnotize people without
Speaker 4: their knowledge whatsoever. And it started in the twenties, tried
Speaker 4: it in the forties, and introduced it in the school
Speaker 4: system in sixty seven. And I go, okay, now things
Speaker 4: make sense. Why you got the trans why it started
Speaker 4: in universities, Why you have people with trigger words? This
Speaker 4: goes nuts because they've been doing this NLP on them forever.
Speaker 4: And then you find out ten percent of the world's
Speaker 4: population cannot be brainwashed, but thirty percent could be super brainwashed.
Speaker 4: So you're like, well, mathematically we're in a hole.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because that is also something I've been researching.
Speaker 3: But there, for me, I've had trouble finding a lot
Speaker 3: of information on dark psychology. Where did you find your information?
Speaker 4: It was a book off of audiobooks. Really yeah, crazy stuff.
Speaker 4: There's books that you can get on audio books for
Speaker 4: ten bucks, but if you go by it used seven
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. Wow. Yeah, they put some gems in there, Like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe this is here.
Speaker 3: That's crazy because dark psychology is a real thing, and
Speaker 3: I think it is similar to things we talk about,
Speaker 3: like you know, mind based or fear based mind control. Right,
Speaker 3: It's it's very manipula manipulative. It's using psychological tactics to
Speaker 3: subtly control or influence someone's thoughts, feelings, or actions, often
Speaker 3: for personal gain. And that's exactly what they do, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it makes no sense for you to react
Speaker 4: certain ways. And I think that they've been Yeah, they've
Speaker 4: been doing it for so long and I hate this
Speaker 4: cool system and it bugs me that you have to
Speaker 4: force your children in there. I don't have any kids,
Speaker 4: but my niece is my great niece, is there, and
Speaker 4: I just hate it. Love that kid to pieces, but
Speaker 4: I'm like, I wish I could just take you out
Speaker 4: teach you. Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of countries around the world you're
Speaker 3: not even allowed to homeschool. I talked to a young
Speaker 3: lady from Germany a few months back. Number one mandatory
Speaker 3: public school. There's no such thing as homeschooling and mandatory inoculations,
Speaker 3: no two ways about it. That's just evil, yeap.
Speaker 4: Especially, I've showed the aluminum and the mercury what happens
Speaker 4: when you put them together. I said, this is what
Speaker 4: they're putting in your vaccines. One has mercury, one has aluminum.
Speaker 4: When you put them together, you get, Oh, look at
Speaker 4: these white fiber blood clots. They said, there's no way
Speaker 4: on God's green Earth they didn't know that because they're chemists.
Speaker 4: It's on purpose. They look at me like, I'm the idiot.
Speaker 4: You tell me that these vaccine companies, that these chemists
Speaker 4: go to, these schools don't know this stuff. Yep, of
Speaker 4: course they know this stuff. And I was telling you
Speaker 4: about this geneticist I know went to Cornell University and
Speaker 4: Antarctica and the real North Pole doing these tests and
Speaker 4: how you contract people using cell towers if they have
Speaker 4: no electronic devices, you just need to get their radio frequencies.
Speaker 4: And now, when I was talking to how I got
Speaker 4: the idea is the Book of Enoch, and when Jesus
Speaker 4: healed the centurions servant wire like, he didn't touch them.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, there's got to be a way
Speaker 4: that they received. Now, I wasn't thinking of the Holy
Speaker 4: Spirit when I came up with this idea at that moment.
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, I said, oh, we must be radio frequencies.
Speaker 4: And in the Enoch it says, but the angels are
Speaker 4: basically in a call center listening to you, right to
Speaker 4: put it in simple terms. So I going, there got
Speaker 4: to be a way to record it. So I'm telling
Speaker 4: them this. And I said, also, when I was looking
Speaker 4: over the history of the telegraph, then you got the radio.
Speaker 4: And then these diseases seem to break out with these things.
Speaker 4: And I'm going, if cells touched and osmosis was the case,
Speaker 4: it's like plugging in your internet cord or your headphones.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be shouldn't be disrupted by a microwave or something.
Speaker 4: And I said, so I think these things are communicating
Speaker 4: wirelessly through low frequencies, and his eyes just lit ups.
Speaker 4: This is exactly what's happening. And so then he started
Speaker 4: telling me about his experiments in Antarctica. Now in Antarctica
Speaker 4: is very low Wi fi, almost no Wi fi. All
Speaker 4: that sounds broke. So he was able to get his
Speaker 4: baseline of certain cells, like he can track your heart cells,
Speaker 4: your lung cells, your arterial cells, and your nervous cells
Speaker 4: and you using these devices. And then he was telling
Speaker 4: me that he would go progressively to more and more
Speaker 4: polluted areas to see if he can still track this
Speaker 4: person through towers. And then he started telling me this
Speaker 4: is in twenty fourteen, that they're going to have to
Speaker 4: do way more towers to get the bigger band, to
Speaker 4: get all the people. And then you hear the World
Speaker 4: Economic Form says they want everybody's frequencies. So essentially, when
Speaker 4: I started putting it together, I'm going, this is dark
Speaker 4: and get it sound like. I could see it working.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you can kill millions, hundreds of millions,
Speaker 4: maybe in seconds if you have the frequency and just
Speaker 4: spam it strokes, heart attacks, pneumonias just like that. Yeah. Snap,
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there kind of going, oh, that's that's
Speaker 4: got to be our technology, Like, we have to be
Speaker 4: able to do that. And that's why I feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we've lost because if they have that, what are you
Speaker 4: going to do? But I'm a Christian, so people like
Speaker 4: your black bilt, I'm a Christian. I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 4: I worry about how I'm going to die, not that
Speaker 4: I'm going to die.
Speaker 3: And that's the mentality more people need to have. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and there is a lot of fear and yeah, if
Speaker 3: you fully accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior.
Speaker 3: What I mean, I get it. We're human, We're flawed
Speaker 3: and we have emotions, and if somebody pulls a gun
Speaker 3: on you, you're gonna be in fear. You're going to
Speaker 3: have the flight or fight reaction. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I think people worry about things they shouldn't be really
Speaker 3: concerned with or they can't control.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I love to die through carbon monoxide poisoning.
Speaker 4: That'd be the way to go. Not oh look at this,
Speaker 4: the steamroller fell and it's calling on me. You know,
Speaker 4: the worst ways to go? Yep.
Speaker 3: Do you think since we're on the topic, of the
Speaker 3: World Economic Forum. I hadn't heard before you mentioned that
Speaker 3: the World Economic Forum. Once everyone's frequencies is that something
Speaker 3: It's a little.
Speaker 4: Video that they put on. They put on lots of
Speaker 4: little stuff and you catch it and you're like, I
Speaker 4: already heard that, and then you just move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Well.
Speaker 4: Tell you that something crazy. I first heard what would
Speaker 4: be in COVID, like in the year two thousand, ninety nine,
Speaker 4: two thousand from a video. You've probably seen it since
Speaker 4: with it French Grand Lodge they were talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then I did research and I'm like okay, And
Speaker 4: I was telling the guys that when I worked at
Speaker 4: the sawmill, I'm like, okay, they're gonna try to sterilize Bainley,
Speaker 4: the women, because men, it only takes one seed hyperinflation
Speaker 4: some point. Try to get you to digital cash the ESGS. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: your ESG score, And I said, Digital Angel will be
Speaker 4: the company to responsible for that. Just wait for these
Speaker 4: things to happen. Well, who got the ESG score? Digital Angel?
Speaker 4: They got the contract. Well I knew that twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: So my one buddy who's hearing this, he kind of
Speaker 4: scared me with kind of suicidal thoughts because he's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: the vaccine happened. They did what you said hyperinflation, talk
Speaker 4: about digital currency in this company you talked about that
Speaker 4: nobody ever heard about got the contract. So I actually
Speaker 4: actually lost my job because of COVID. I refuse to
Speaker 4: take the vaccine.
Speaker 3: Well, God bless you for for well standing tall.
Speaker 4: This is the crazy thing is that's the geneticist sister,
Speaker 4: and he worked with them on our night vaccines and
Speaker 4: he refused to take it too. Wow, so he's not
Speaker 4: a lot to visit. Like talk about being in the
Speaker 4: matrix when your own brother works with the stuff. Told
Speaker 4: me fifteen percent of the people who take it will
Speaker 4: die either instantaneously or within a seven year window if
Speaker 4: your DNA takes it, but most people will flush it
Speaker 4: right out. And I also heard about the vaccine passports,
Speaker 4: so I told her there will be a vaccine passports.
Speaker 4: We're going to have the first virus show up around January.
Speaker 4: Around January. This was in twenty twenty, so in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one, I'm telling her this in April. So there's
Speaker 4: going to be a war somewhere's around here, and then
Speaker 4: there's going to be I think it was. I think
Speaker 4: it's supposed seven viruses, second one in anyway, it all happens.
Speaker 4: So she's sitting there telling me that either take it,
Speaker 4: and I literally told her, I said, my DNA is
Speaker 4: God's DNA. He wants to change it. Only heat changes it.
Speaker 4: No man's going to change it because they don't know
Speaker 4: what they're doing. And then she's like, well, you know
Speaker 4: what that means. I said, yeah, you're still going to
Speaker 4: fire me? After I pre told you everything. Were you
Speaker 4: saying it's made up? I told you almost a year
Speaker 4: in advance. I'd play out and played out, Yes, it's
Speaker 4: made up. I didn't care whatever. So I lost my
Speaker 4: shirt there, I lost the roof over my head is
Speaker 4: what I did. But it's not worth it, I know.
Speaker 4: I learned in the twenties forgive everybody, yep, because how
Speaker 4: you forgive others is how you'll be forgiven. And I
Speaker 4: have sins that I want forgiven. So I forgive everybody whatever.
Speaker 4: It wasn't easy at the start, but now it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not even worth it.
Speaker 3: I think the older you get, the more you understand
Speaker 3: that concept. I was not of that mindset when I
Speaker 3: was in my twenties. And early thirties.
Speaker 4: I just hated the noddy nodded up feeling when you
Speaker 4: see somebody that you're and I'm like, this ain't worth
Speaker 4: It's not worth it at all. You you have your
Speaker 4: one sided war. I'm just gonna move on.
Speaker 3: Yep. And that's that's why everybody should should do that
Speaker 3: as well. Let's talk a little bit about flat Earth.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 3: You know, you came upon the podcast, and you're obviously
Speaker 3: a very well researched, researched individual. What would you say
Speaker 3: were some of the silver bullets if you will, that
Speaker 3: led you to believe? Yeah, the whole spinning on a
Speaker 3: ball thing.
Speaker 4: Is a lie. Ah well, just the way the sun
Speaker 4: moved moved like you if you're trying to tell me
Speaker 4: that we're wobbling, anything that wobbles as will fly out
Speaker 4: of its orbit, that's just your physics. How many tests
Speaker 4: you have to have before you like it's just ludicrous.
Speaker 4: And that was really all it took because that can't
Speaker 4: happen on the model they told me, right, So I
Speaker 4: wasn't like, oh sorry, like I didn't have the like
Speaker 4: you did. The two weeks I was like, uh, world's flat.
Speaker 4: I'm go grab a coke, you want one. It didn't
Speaker 4: bother me at all, because you know, I've already seen
Speaker 4: so many lies with nothing surprises me. But now, well,
Speaker 4: I tell somebody said, well in our lake, our lake
Speaker 4: is very long, So I said, that's about ten miles.
Speaker 4: We use kilometers. But the eight inches of drop, I said,
Speaker 4: so we can see this is a place called Peachland.
Speaker 4: So setting in Penticton, I can see the highway sell
Speaker 4: at Peachland. Well, that highway is only about eight feet
Speaker 4: above the lake, and it should be at that distance
Speaker 4: about thirty eight feet. So I'm just standing there like
Speaker 4: I can see it. You don't even need binoculars and
Speaker 4: all you need. And I'll tell somebody, you only need
Speaker 4: five inches of water one mile long, smooth. You have
Speaker 4: to have eight inches period. Actually you don't even need
Speaker 4: that long. Every what fourth of a mile there should
Speaker 4: be one inch of drop. It's not negotiable on water
Speaker 4: because it always flat. And I said, if we're shooting
Speaker 4: lasers ten feet you can't. And then I went back
Speaker 4: to World War two documentary, so like, go, wait, they
Speaker 4: were using radar for one hundred and seventy five miles
Speaker 4: on a surface ship. Well, they couldn't have seen that,
Speaker 4: so I'm just going, okay. Then they have a handheld
Speaker 4: like kind of like a toll miss so that it
Speaker 4: was one hundred miles, like you can't do that at
Speaker 4: standing height. And then you know, so you're just looking
Speaker 4: at this going that doesn't work. And this is their
Speaker 4: own words, once you apply physics to it, are not
Speaker 4: physics logic to it. And if radar can bend, it
Speaker 4: would be useless. If sonar could bend, it wouldn't be
Speaker 4: It'd be useless. It has to be straight. And then
Speaker 4: the new documentary have you seen the Boeing for the
Speaker 4: your new fighter jet? One of the promo videos that.
Speaker 3: They had, I don't think I have.
Speaker 4: It didn't say who got at that for video, but
Speaker 4: it was like we can see, oh, I think they
Speaker 4: said a couple thousand our radar bends around the curve
Speaker 4: of the Earth. What And then it also says it
Speaker 4: flies at eighty thousand feet with the small satellites.
Speaker 3: And what new plane is this?
Speaker 4: I don't know. So they're just talking. They didn't mention it.
Speaker 4: They're just saying America's new plane and it could change
Speaker 4: its structure. And I was like, okay, this sounds like
Speaker 4: a venture crap, right, But they're telling you all this stuff,
Speaker 4: like the satellites are only eight eighty thousand feet, the
Speaker 4: small ones. Like did I hear that? Silly Discovery Channel?
Speaker 4: I was watching Discovery Channel. They had JPL on there
Speaker 4: talking to the astronauts. This is on Discovery Channel.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: He goes, he has his models and he's talking about
Speaker 4: the Van Allen radiation Belt and he goes, we can't
Speaker 4: even send it through once and we got to figure
Speaker 4: out how to get it back twice. Like, did anybody
Speaker 4: hear that? They both said there's no in space. I
Speaker 4: said he had a power point, he had models, and
Speaker 4: he told you they haven't put anything up there. I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is this was edited. They're letting you know if
Speaker 4: you're listening. Never been there anyways, never been past the
Speaker 4: Van a radiation Belt. And then they started giving the
Speaker 4: temperatures of the Van Allen radiation belt. They said it's
Speaker 4: between two thousand calvins and five thousand calvins. Calvins are
Speaker 4: pretty close to celsius, so that means the coldest point
Speaker 4: in the Van Allen radiation belt would be on twenty
Speaker 4: eight degrees centigrade. I work in a foundry. That's the principle.
Speaker 4: We used to melt betal at the high end, you
Speaker 4: vaporize some of these metals. And you went there with
Speaker 4: an aluminum craft. Not a chance. So they tell you
Speaker 4: the truth. You just got to be listening. I guess
Speaker 4: that's just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, depending on where you get your information, whether it's
Speaker 3: anywhere between twenty thousand and Kelvin's or you see thirty
Speaker 3: five thousand degrees celsius, and you can basically google what
Speaker 3: the Apollo eleven was made out of and look at
Speaker 3: its smelting points and it just so you can even
Speaker 3: defeat their story with their own pseudoscience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, how do we melt our metal? We
Speaker 4: have a ceramic case, and we have electrical wires, and
Speaker 4: we shoot these fields across to each other, the same
Speaker 4: thing that would be in the van Allen ration belt.
Speaker 4: So ceramic won't protect you. Nothing will protect you. It's
Speaker 4: just like stop, stop and think that's one of the Stop. Look,
Speaker 4: think that's a good website.
Speaker 3: That's a great I think that was originally Dave's first
Speaker 3: website before he started diving into flat earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that until later, Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: been down there a few times.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And if you google the Apollo eleven command
Speaker 3: module anywhere between, I'm sorry, it's made of aluminilloy and titanium.
Speaker 3: And people say, well titanium, well, even titanium melts it
Speaker 3: about seventeen hundred degrees celsius, so the whole thing would
Speaker 3: have just dissolved just and again that's their science.
Speaker 4: And I said, the Paulo eleven video, it's they say
Speaker 4: it's two hundred and fifty degrees integrated in the sun
Speaker 4: and two hundred and fifty degrees out of the sun.
Speaker 4: I'm going and they were freezing. I could tell you've
Speaker 4: living in the Okanagan where it gets up to forty
Speaker 4: seven degrees center grade. You're not freezing in a metal box.
Speaker 3: No, you're melting hot here.
Speaker 4: It's the little sweet spot in Canada. Right, what is
Speaker 4: that one hundred and eighteen degrees Yeah, it's center right. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the hottest day ever felt was in Baghdad
Speaker 3: in July a few years well, twenty years ago, so
Speaker 3: I think it hit almost hundred and thirty. It's like
Speaker 3: one twenty eight. That was hot, yeah, so, and and
Speaker 3: that's one twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So not everywhere in Canada has egloose folks.
Speaker 3: Another another common misconception. By the way, I'm glad you
Speaker 3: brought that up. The World Economic Forum go to go
Speaker 3: to their YouTube channel, click on videos and then click
Speaker 3: on popular. You'll see number two. Uh, and we forget
Speaker 3: about this. Number two is the Great Reset And again
Speaker 3: you can't rebuild unless you destroy first. And their fourth
Speaker 3: or fifth most popular video, uh is what is the
Speaker 3: Fourth Industrial Revolution?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ie, isn't it Ai?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the truth is in plain sight.
Speaker 4: Or eleven ab and one and you could just say
Speaker 4: take it as one if you want. They push I'm
Speaker 4: starting to lean towards that whole Nephilum spirit ais those
Speaker 4: that's interesting. Yeah, i mean I'm not sold on it,
Speaker 4: but I'm leaning towards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impossible.
Speaker 4: Well, there's so many things like when we look at
Speaker 4: the Bible, you have post trib pre trib, no trib rapture,
Speaker 4: no rapture, no millennium. These are all guys a PhD.
Speaker 4: So like, it's obviously not so clear cut and dry
Speaker 4: some things, right, like that's life, looking deep into it
Speaker 4: and come with your own conclusions. Actually, one of the
Speaker 4: craziest things is when I was looking at if you
Speaker 4: want to get, like, you know, the French Revolution, the
Speaker 4: really base of it started in the thirteen hundreds, and
Speaker 4: you really want to get the kind of the roots
Speaker 4: of it that happened in England, that right uprising that
Speaker 4: happened in England, I think in thirteen eighty or something
Speaker 4: like that sounds right, So as why geene a documentary
Speaker 4: on that? And that's when they're talking about the Freemasons
Speaker 4: converting the Bible and seminary school. I'm like, this is weird,
Speaker 4: because what does that have to do with this? And
Speaker 4: then they brought in one of the Bible verses that
Speaker 4: is often quoted for the end times happening in seventy AD,
Speaker 4: and they said they took that and added it in
Speaker 4: for this this They have a belief called the They
Speaker 4: call it the wandering Jew now, but it's a lizard person,
Speaker 4: they claim, and every time he turns, they turn one
Speaker 4: hundred years old, they shed their skin and become a
Speaker 4: thirty year old again. And they said that was their
Speaker 4: adding into it. So when I look at that Bible
Speaker 4: verse now, I'm like, oh, did they? So I'm trying
Speaker 4: to find a really really really really ancient the oldest
Speaker 4: translation I can find to see if it's just a
Speaker 4: story making or not, what you will do that changes things.
Speaker 3: The Wandering Jew story came about in the I think
Speaker 3: it was the mid to late twelve hundred, so right
Speaker 3: around that time period.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: What was the verse you were talking about? Do you
Speaker 3: remember the verse?
Speaker 4: I think it's Matthew six sixteen or something where Jesus
Speaker 4: says one that some of you here won't see uh,
Speaker 4: won't see death before I ascend or the kingdom comes
Speaker 4: down or something like that. I don't have my Bible ready.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That so why I suggest with a lot of
Speaker 4: people to don't just stick with one translation of a book.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Like I have a word for word Bible, I have
Speaker 4: the Geneva Bible. I have the King James Bible, both versions,
Speaker 4: the International or the NIVS. So you sorry, you know,
Speaker 4: you cross reference if you want to check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: It's clearly a difficult thing. But yeah, I get surprised.
Speaker 4: But then I looked at that and I'm going, well, like,
Speaker 4: I'm I believe that our timeline is right, but what
Speaker 4: was happened in it is wrong.
Speaker 3: So you think they altered history, but we're in this
Speaker 3: time correct timeline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that because when I was reading the Bible,
Speaker 4: Israel has to pay for four hundred and thirty years
Speaker 4: of sin. That's what Yahweis said. They're going to be
Speaker 4: paying for four hundred and thirty years of sin, but
Speaker 4: they only paid for the seventy. The first part where
Speaker 4: I get this stuff is I was looking at it
Speaker 4: and Revelations is written in bad grammatical Greek, and it's
Speaker 4: an ancient ploy to show you what Old Testament books
Speaker 4: you just for what books you're supposed to be looking at.
Speaker 4: So making that looking at all the other verses you're
Speaker 4: supposed to be it starts going over this, and so
Speaker 4: Israel still had three hundred and ninety years of sin
Speaker 4: to pay for. Now I believe it's Isaiah eleven twelve
Speaker 4: or eleven eleven. It says once again for the second time,
Speaker 4: I'll bring back my nation, Israel back. But an Amos,
Speaker 4: when he was talking about the second return of Israel,
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm not doing this because you earned it. Basically,
Speaker 4: I'm doing it because there's a timeline and we're almost out,
Speaker 4: so you're I mean he doesn't like the second Israel
Speaker 4: would not be godly, and that's what we're seeing, right.
Speaker 3: Some people point to Revelation two nine and three nine
Speaker 3: as well, the books that were written or the letters
Speaker 3: written to Smyrna in Philadelphia, that the they say they
Speaker 3: are Jewish, the Jews, but they are not. And if
Speaker 3: you go back and research people like sabotaized Zev I
Speaker 3: think his name was, and the whole seventeen changeover, and
Speaker 3: then you had Schofield and Darby kind of changed the
Speaker 3: Bible in the late eighteen hundreds, that the timelines all
Speaker 3: kind of match up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he takes what a Darby took those letters
Speaker 4: to the churches and he creates dispensationalism or time frames
Speaker 4: and like maybe, but I doubt it. And Scholfield should
Speaker 4: have been outright, people should have just called them out
Speaker 4: on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a bad guy before he even got
Speaker 3: into the Bible business. He was a bad dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I was going back, well when it's said that,
Speaker 4: so they still had three hundred and ninety years of
Speaker 4: sin to pay for and Gahway said if they didn't repent,
Speaker 4: they would here times at by seven and the clock
Speaker 4: would start on the time of going forth, so I
Speaker 4: think that was August five point thirty seven BC, so
Speaker 4: a few times their years. I wrote this down, you
Speaker 4: had nine hundred thousand, seven hundred seven, nine hundred and
Speaker 4: seven thousand, two hundred days that they still had to
Speaker 4: pay for. So if you add that on August third,
Speaker 4: when the going forth back, because remember they first built
Speaker 4: the temple, then they built the wall, then they were
Speaker 4: allowed back. You add that up and in a lunar calendar,
Speaker 4: I mean a solar calendar, it does come up to
Speaker 4: May fourteenth, nineteen forty eight. Really, yeah, And that's kind
Speaker 4: of what Barnabas wrote in his treatises that he figured
Speaker 4: the end time. And I think it was Hippoalais in
Speaker 4: the two thousands, which is also in the Book of
Speaker 4: Enoch two thousand and thirty to sixty, is what he
Speaker 4: guessed it was, because they say, you know, no man
Speaker 4: knows the day of the hour. But if Yahweh made
Speaker 4: it clear that it won't be before these events that happened,
Speaker 4: because I think if it happened in seventy a d
Speaker 4: it should have happened the way Yahweh said it would happen.
Speaker 4: They should have their own should happen in the day.
Speaker 4: They should be independent, they should have a flagg. He
Speaker 4: never said it'd be a good symbol, just said it
Speaker 4: would be a symbol and to be from the root
Speaker 4: of Jesse. Didn't say who. And it talks about Dick Garma,
Speaker 4: which is Germany and all its bands had to be together,
Speaker 4: Ethiopia had to be split into two. Like none of
Speaker 4: these things happened. I'm not saying it's one hundred percent
Speaker 4: because I'm a human being. I could be wrong. I mean,
Speaker 4: you have guys a post trip tribulation, raptures. No, you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot to it. And also I don't recall
Speaker 4: him saying Antichrist. Doesn't he just say the man of pradition.
Speaker 3: Well, there's the man of perdition and the anti Christ.
Speaker 4: That's why people I think Paul discussed that you'd be
Speaker 4: harpotzoed raptured before you know who the man of tradition is. Well,
Speaker 4: that's a big difference between the Antichrist and if they're
Speaker 4: two different people. Absolutely, O yea one hundred percent, they're
Speaker 4: two different people. Yeah, Like my theory is what the
Speaker 4: other one? I think it might be Nimrod.
Speaker 3: Now you wouldn't be alone in that thinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he said he was once what he was,
Speaker 4: he was not and was again I'm like, well he
Speaker 4: seems to fit that bill yep. And that's because what
Speaker 4: you heard, what you said, what I got from you,
Speaker 4: and beg dad, what is the first thing they went
Speaker 4: to the museum?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 4: And whether they take out these few sarcophagus again, I'm
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent, but could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was May two thousand and three when they
Speaker 3: got there, I remember correctly, it was like May third,
Speaker 3: two thousand and three. And yeah, there's many people who
Speaker 3: do think that. The first, whether you want to call
Speaker 3: him the actual first globalist ruler or the person who
Speaker 3: uh you know, strive to be the first global leader,
Speaker 3: was Nimrod, the builder of the Tower of Bebel.
Speaker 4: Bobbel, which the European Union, what is it? They're Congress
Speaker 4: and not Congress a capital thing that looks like trying
Speaker 4: to make it the that painting of the Tower of Babel, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Nimrod or not Nimrod. Nasa is just a
Speaker 3: continuation of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the serpent's tongue and it's crazy. They don't even
Speaker 4: hide that. And people think I'm crazy. I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: they don't hide it. They are a bunch of Filima
Speaker 4: Satanists occultists. The FBI says, who's the guy did Filima
Speaker 4: was was feeding his tiger with human sacrifices that he
Speaker 4: killed Aleister Crawley.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about him an hour ago. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is your guy. This is your guy. This is
Speaker 3: the guy who inspired Jack Parsons and al Ron Hubbard
Speaker 3: and the founders of the OTO who started JPL back
Speaker 3: then it was Jack Parson's Lab became Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was based on Satan worship and Alistair Crawley,
Speaker 3: who was a thirty third degree Freemason also by the way, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just crazy. And I've been trying to tell people
Speaker 4: like why you again in the Freemasons, Like I was
Speaker 4: telling them what the American flag said. The American flag
Speaker 4: has nine eleven thirteen, which is thirty three. It's right there.
Speaker 4: Canadian flag has the eight points, so you know that's
Speaker 4: eight points means something that's your allegiance to, Like our
Speaker 4: Capitol building. You look into it and goes those deers,
Speaker 4: look at the antlers. Now go look at what Odin
Speaker 4: Rode and then you start getting a different picture. That's
Speaker 4: who our allegiance is to as.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's why everything in NASA is named after
Speaker 3: Greek mythology, right, Apollo, Artemis, all of those. And the
Speaker 3: Greek word pharmakia is sorcery witchcraft, which means drugs or potions,
Speaker 3: which what are pharmacies?
Speaker 4: Right? Oh, I just started listening to about the electricity,
Speaker 4: like the invention. What's the book called? I just got it.
Speaker 4: And you know, one of the things he was telling
Speaker 4: me about when he was in Antarctica that there's no frequencies,
Speaker 4: very little of it. So when I was reading this,
Speaker 4: I got this book. Okay, should have thought of this before.
Speaker 4: But it's the history of electricity and the healing properties
Speaker 4: of it. But you have to have basically no pollution,
Speaker 4: no electrical pollution, and which would they would have the
Speaker 4: invisible rainbow. So, as you're describing, the healing property is
Speaker 4: of very low frequencies that we cannot get in the
Speaker 4: cities because we're blasted with way too much stuff. That's right,
Speaker 4: I'm going Okay, So the elites go down get the
Speaker 4: proper healing properties of these things, because when they're not
Speaker 4: blasted by Wi Fi. They're not blasted by Mike ol
Speaker 4: is it anything? Like I could see that happening. Why
Speaker 4: you want to keep it clean down there and not
Speaker 4: have people down.
Speaker 3: That's a great point too, just like and when you
Speaker 3: live in the city, you don't see the stars at night,
Speaker 3: you barely see them. And then you move out to
Speaker 3: the country like my daughter did a month ago, she's like,
Speaker 3: my goodness, you can see everything. And I imagine it's
Speaker 3: the same with the vibrations or the frequencies, things of
Speaker 3: that nature. It's so remote, there's no interference, and I
Speaker 3: think maybe they are able to communicate with insert watchers Nephilom.
Speaker 4: I usually go with watchers because angels from a lock
Speaker 4: meets messenger. I just usually the as watchers, because it
Speaker 4: could be both sides of the fence. Like I tell people, like,
Speaker 4: if you believe in the spirit realm, they're here, we
Speaker 4: just don't see them. Like they're just as much as
Speaker 4: we are. Like they're probably just as populated in a
Speaker 4: way in the spirit realm on this realm as we are.
Speaker 4: And there's probably billions of them too, we just don't
Speaker 4: see them. It makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: Yep one hundred percent, and you were on point with
Speaker 3: the technology after the telegram, once they started using radio.
Speaker 3: If if you look at the the new inventions or
Speaker 3: not inventions so much as improvements and technology, you will
Speaker 3: find that that the illness rates align with iteen sixteen
Speaker 3: or seventeen eighteen around there is when they introduced radio
Speaker 3: basically you know, radio for America to listen. And that's
Speaker 3: when the first real quote unquote pandemic happened. And if
Speaker 3: you look at all the technology historically, every time it advances.
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty eight you had the what was that flu
Speaker 3: called the one not Korea but Asian flu? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's what it was called. And similar things. Some
Speaker 3: people's bodies take and some people's don't.
Speaker 4: Like I go a terrain theory. I put that in practice.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've only been sick once in eighteen years,
Speaker 4: and that's because it couldn't sleep for like three days.
Speaker 3: And your bodies was in a week in state. So
Speaker 3: what didn't have the strength to fight whatever? You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Agree, Usually as soon as something just hits, just anything,
Speaker 4: I stop eating, I take supplements and I just fast
Speaker 4: and let my body just deal with it. And I yeah,
Speaker 4: I only made me feel somewhat off for an hour
Speaker 4: and a half, two hours, and then I'm off. Way
Speaker 4: do I go? However, that time I was sick. Oh
Speaker 4: my goodness, I even passed out. Oh wow, bod he
Speaker 4: was not used to like, maybe I need to get
Speaker 4: myself sick more often. Just keep me in the game.
Speaker 3: Here a bit, there you go.
Speaker 4: They passed out, cut my eye, bent the bathroom door
Speaker 4: handle on the cover. Goodness, it's just like, whoa, that's
Speaker 4: not good.
Speaker 3: You know, if you look at all of these like
Speaker 3: the American Philosophical Society, all of these people who claim
Speaker 3: to be you know, the sciences and humanities, they're all
Speaker 3: the same people, and they're all the same people who
Speaker 3: they put up as our heroes, whether it's been Franklin,
Speaker 3: George Washington, Darwin right, Louis Pasture. And Louis Pasture is
Speaker 3: someone who I like to like if I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get people to push them into the truth door. There's
Speaker 3: been so many books written, even back in the early
Speaker 3: nineteen hundreds because you had mentioned terrain theory, understanding that,
Speaker 3: you know, Antoine b. Champ really understood how the body worked,
Speaker 3: and they chose, of course past Yeer and his theory
Speaker 3: to make people sick, right, they kill all the good
Speaker 3: stuff that is in milk right before they ship it off.
Speaker 3: And not speaking of train theory, many of the chickens
Speaker 3: we eat that you get from the grocery store, the
Speaker 3: produce the milk, it's not from your local area. And
Speaker 3: that's why they tell you when you get sick. What
Speaker 3: did they tell you, well, find local honey. Well why
Speaker 3: did they stress local? Because that's that's terrain, That's what
Speaker 3: your body is used to. That's why it's so important. Fine,
Speaker 3: try to you know, as much farmed a table as
Speaker 3: you can in your area. Just something like that will
Speaker 3: significantly improve your health.
Speaker 4: That's what I've been doing. Like with this whole tariff thing,
Speaker 4: people are waking up to how I've been living forever.
Speaker 4: I said, you buy local, buy your country, and then
Speaker 4: I always go to the first best first world nation, right,
Speaker 4: support people who treat people well, which was you know,
Speaker 4: the States, to try to get those things first before
Speaker 4: I go to China and stuff. Now more people for
Speaker 4: negative reasons, unfortunately, or seeing it that way, but it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: That's how it had to be done. To wake some
Speaker 4: people up, like yeah, no, support your locals first, right.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad you mentioned that, you know, talking about
Speaker 3: our friendly states, et cetera. So many people that have
Speaker 3: come on the podcast. Now, I know you've been awake
Speaker 3: for a long time, but I'd like to spend a
Speaker 3: few minutes on COVID and how it affected you personally,
Speaker 3: which you did kind of touch on already, but your area,
Speaker 3: what you saw. The one thing I'll always remember is
Speaker 3: the truckers up there back I think it was either
Speaker 3: late twenty twenty or early twenty twenty one who rallied
Speaker 3: and then eventually, as we know, man, they had their
Speaker 3: funds taken away from them. Some of the folks had
Speaker 3: their banks taken away. Is that something you ever saw
Speaker 3: coming in your home country?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, because Canadians are usually just write them a letter.
Speaker 4: All they didn't read it. We're done, right. That's basically
Speaker 4: how it is. You know, letters, that's it. But where
Speaker 4: I lived in this part of the southern Okanagan was beautiful,
Speaker 4: and COVID really came down to it. The RCMP literally said,
Speaker 4: we're not here to arrest people for hugging their grandmothers.
Speaker 4: This is by law's problem. By law deal with it.
Speaker 4: And so when little Smama Pop stores opened up, police
Speaker 4: did not show up.
Speaker 3: Well that's great to take.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just let them police themselves. And if you
Speaker 4: kept too many people, yeah they do something. But yeah,
Speaker 4: for the most part, that wasn't too bad. It was
Speaker 4: just wearing a mask. As I was a government worker,
Speaker 4: was in house, I was taking care of special needs,
Speaker 4: and then whilso with the fire department. You know, you
Speaker 4: go out, you have to wear a mask, and I
Speaker 4: it hated it because I knew it was not necessary.
Speaker 4: But you know, as a government job, you could get fired,
Speaker 4: but I could. At the end, I just couldn't do
Speaker 4: it anymore. The last couple of months, it's just like you, No,
Speaker 4: I just can't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: And I know this, but the people who wear glasses.
Speaker 3: My glasses would constantly fog up, you know. When it
Speaker 3: first started, if I had to get groceries or something.
Speaker 3: You know, the first few times I did, and then
Speaker 3: everybody got tired of it, and we just wouldn't go
Speaker 3: to a place. If you told me to leave, I
Speaker 3: would happily leave. I wouldn't cause a scene.
Speaker 4: But you know, we had the ninety five, so I
Speaker 4: poked the holes in all the little traphics so it
Speaker 4: wouldn't seem and I put it upside down and then
Speaker 4: I was once I wasn't covering my nose, was in costco,
Speaker 4: wasn't covering my nose, and so they're like, you have
Speaker 4: to cover your nose. I kid you not. So I
Speaker 4: put on the chin one and they were fine, that's
Speaker 4: the little chin shield. Oh now you're well, how is
Speaker 4: this any better?
Speaker 3: Man? Twice a year on my other podcast, I'll play
Speaker 3: audio from back then and it's just I can't still
Speaker 3: to this day believe the psychology, the mentality of everything.
Speaker 3: It was just bizarro world. It really was.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I caught myself a few times and I kind
Speaker 4: of feel like a jerk for doing it. I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I see Bill Goods point, that's funny. I shouldn't. But
Speaker 4: you know, you're like, yeah, there's too many. So I
Speaker 4: always get this, why does it matter? What's it matter?
Speaker 4: What's the matter? I said, Well, because I'm on the
Speaker 4: beach and I see it's afternoon, it's free and after
Speaker 4: and the water goes way out into the ocean. I
Speaker 4: know what I have to do. And then I turned around.
Speaker 4: I got a bunch of lemmings coming down to go clamming.
Speaker 4: Now I'm stuck with you guys. Clearly you don't see
Speaker 4: the danger and you're taking me with you. So yeah.
Speaker 4: Another thing, when I was talking to one of the guys,
Speaker 4: explaining to him how nothing works in the vacuum, so
Speaker 4: there's no way there's a satellite in space. There's no
Speaker 4: way they took pictures of Earth, and there's no way
Speaker 4: that's in the moon. So what does it matter? I said, Uh,
Speaker 4: you're paying tons of taxes to something. I said, you
Speaker 4: know how much Canada spent on that Avengers suit? For
Speaker 4: I'm nuts over there? A billion dollars? One billion dollars? Like,
Speaker 4: you tell me, what do you think we could have
Speaker 4: done with that?
Speaker 3: A billion dollars?
Speaker 4: Yeah, say, clearly we're throwing money out the door. I've just.
Speaker 3: Wow, that was was that? No, that's for I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of something else. Well, when you say the Alpha suit,
Speaker 3: all right, which one are you talking about?
Speaker 4: I didn't probably see the suit. I just heard they
Speaker 4: said the spacesuit cost out billion dollars each. Like you
Speaker 4: have got to be kiddied me.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because if you look at the Lunar
Speaker 3: Lander or the rover whatever it's called. If you look
Speaker 3: at the price at the time of its construction back
Speaker 3: and I think sixty eight into sixty nine, and how
Speaker 3: much it is today in present dollars, and when you
Speaker 3: look at it, it just looks like the chassis of like
Speaker 3: a jeep, four wheels, a launch air that strapped to
Speaker 3: a pole, and the amount of money that they paid
Speaker 3: for that, it's just a ludicrous.
Speaker 4: And somehow they rolled it into their spot took a picture,
Speaker 4: but there's no tire tracks in between the chassis. It
Speaker 4: was like, shouldn't there be tire tracks there? He just
Speaker 4: dropped it. Oh, man, I know, that's just you know,
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, I never seen it. I
Speaker 4: just heard mad Moon and I believed it, and I
Speaker 4: went to Edmonton Space Science Center and they said, oh,
Speaker 4: the Moon's gravity is sixty percent of Earth. Okay. Then
Speaker 4: I watched the video once, like, okay, this is fake
Speaker 4: if this is sixty percent of the Earth's gravity and
Speaker 4: what we had to do to break this and then
Speaker 4: it just floats away like a balloon. You're just like, yead, Nope,
Speaker 4: that was fake.
Speaker 3: By the way, NASA awarded contracts worth up to three
Speaker 3: point five billion dollars to Axiom Space and Colin Zero
Speaker 3: Space to develop and supply next generation space suits for
Speaker 3: the ISS.
Speaker 4: This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I mean, my gosh.
Speaker 4: The other thing I pointed out with the space walk
Speaker 4: and go, aren't those pressureized suits? Why are they wrinkled?
Speaker 4: You should look like the Michelin man up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of it makes sense. And three point five
Speaker 3: billion dollars, and we have been so inundated every week
Speaker 3: you just hear these numbers. We hear trillions, billions, and
Speaker 3: people just get so numb to the effect that they
Speaker 3: don't look around and understand how life changing three point
Speaker 3: five billion dollars would be to their community.
Speaker 4: I've had guys said, you know, the money's fake. I said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, the money's FIA currency and fake. But they're
Speaker 4: taking my real money to pay the fake stuff off. Yep.
Speaker 4: That's my problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's infuriating. It is, and especially during the time
Speaker 3: when people are paying taxes and the people they're paying
Speaker 3: taxes to are are are not just governing them, they're
Speaker 3: ruling them. They're telling them what they have to do
Speaker 3: if they want to keep their job. And that's just
Speaker 3: next level evil. There's an article. I think it was
Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal from September fifteenth, twenty twenty, and
Speaker 3: it said, and again, think about that, that's just six
Speaker 3: months after they declared the pandemic. Here, just here in
Speaker 3: the United States, over one hundred thousand small businesses that
Speaker 3: had closed brarely do the pan to the pandemic went
Speaker 3: bankrupt closed permanently. That's just in six months. Think about
Speaker 3: how many small businesses were decimated just in that six months.
Speaker 4: I personally believe this whole terror thing is just that
Speaker 4: their version of COVID for industry. Yep, yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: going to swoop in and kill it. Because I read
Speaker 4: something was two days ago America lost one point four
Speaker 4: trillion dollars in business after they lost two trillion. But
Speaker 4: they say, oh, we game six hundred billion. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: you're still net loss of one point four trillion. I
Speaker 4: don't see how this is going to help. But if
Speaker 4: you're trying to take out small industry now you're bang on.
Speaker 4: You're doing a good job. That's the way I see it.
Speaker 4: I mean, we could be wrong. What only time will tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very few small businesses are We'll be around by
Speaker 3: twenty thirty. And I think that is the next big date.
Speaker 3: You know that. That's why you know Donald Trump said
Speaker 3: he was going to be the last president. I think
Speaker 3: there's some legitimacy to that. I think that's some foretelling.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, also when you look at this date, if
Speaker 4: Israel came in nineteen forty forty eight, yeah, and a
Speaker 4: generation according to God was one hundred and twenty years,
Speaker 4: well that puts you, well, one sixty eight or twenty
Speaker 4: sixty eight, but you know the seven years has to happen,
Speaker 4: So that puts you it has to start toward twenty
Speaker 4: twenty sixty one, but it doesn't. I guess that kind
Speaker 4: of messed that one up, didn't I. But anyway, oh
Speaker 4: my god, Well, definitely know it's going to happen between that.
Speaker 4: So when between that, I don't know. But the signs
Speaker 4: that you're looking and that's why, I mean, I've looked
Speaker 4: at all of them, and they all have kind of
Speaker 4: a merit, right, So I don't just just span this
Speaker 4: throw at anything out. I lean towards this being the
Speaker 4: legit part, Like this is legitimately the timeline and was
Speaker 4: supposed to be happening. And I could honestly see three
Speaker 4: raptures I'm like, who's to tell God what he can't do?
Speaker 4: Not me? And I go because the reason why I
Speaker 4: came to that conclusion is because I don't find the
Speaker 4: Bible God punishing anybody who is obedient. So if this
Speaker 4: is his punishment, He's always removed people from his punishment
Speaker 4: before he dials it out, So I kind of lean
Speaker 4: to that being possible, but I'm not hanging my hat
Speaker 4: on it if that makes any sense. Like I think
Speaker 4: if there is a rapture, I don't really see a
Speaker 4: pre I think a mid would be more logical because
Speaker 4: that's what the earliest of the church fathers believed, like
Speaker 4: the disciples of the Disciples believe that it would be
Speaker 4: the late part. But again, he didn't tell you when.
Speaker 3: So do you think do you expect there to be
Speaker 3: a transition to like a central bank digital coin in
Speaker 3: the near future, and do you think there will be
Speaker 3: a significant event to collapse the old system in order
Speaker 3: to bring in the new.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're working on the event right now,
Speaker 4: trade wars and then trying. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 4: Trump really really really really really wants a real war.
Speaker 4: That could be the hide businesses collapsing, say well, you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't my tariffs, it was you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like who knows. But I see digital currencies for sure
Speaker 4: because in the Bible I didn't look at it as
Speaker 4: so much as super hyperinflation, although that is the case
Speaker 4: now that at the at first I didn't see it
Speaker 4: that way. Now I do because when it says a
Speaker 4: day's wages only gets one day of food for a family, right,
Speaker 4: But if there's still oil and wine, that's not a drought,
Speaker 4: right because those things wouldn't grow either there is drought,
Speaker 4: So I don't see it as a drought. So I
Speaker 4: see as hyperinflation and or digital cash controlling what you
Speaker 4: can do with the wheel barrel of wheel barrel of
Speaker 4: money being worthless. Yeah, and I also the reason why
Speaker 4: I think they'll go digital cash is because let's say
Speaker 4: you bought gold and silver, Well, I don't accept that.
Speaker 4: What are you going to do with it? Like it
Speaker 4: screws you really really every which way you can think of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get you coming in gooing because yeah, the
Speaker 3: people who have tried to get around that system, like
Speaker 3: myself has you know, invested in mineral resources. But if
Speaker 3: they make a digital coin, the only means of you know, transactions,
Speaker 3: Then what good does that do? And then they may
Speaker 3: even and for the people who don't know, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: be the first if they told you to turn it over,
Speaker 3: We'll give you a great deal for it. We'll give
Speaker 3: you all these digital credits. You know, back in nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty one or thirty two, every American was told to
Speaker 3: turn in their gold and if you were caught with it,
Speaker 3: I don't remember the repercussions if it was a finer
Speaker 3: jail time. But people turn in.
Speaker 4: Their cold I could see them saying, if you don't
Speaker 4: go digital cash, your debt's not forgiven, you can't buy
Speaker 4: stop or if you'll eventually have to be doing it.
Speaker 4: But the first people who willingly do it, I think
Speaker 4: they might just forgive their debts. And you know, most
Speaker 4: people will be all over that.
Speaker 3: And that goes back to the understanding that money isn't real.
Speaker 3: They can just hit a button and it disappears.
Speaker 4: Not realizing you just signed up for the worst in
Speaker 4: slavery ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why people really have to be cognizant
Speaker 3: of where they're at, not just the timeline, but they
Speaker 3: need to be very familiar with the Bible and understanding
Speaker 3: that our trip here around the sun, just kidding, is
Speaker 3: just a blink of an eye compared to eternity.
Speaker 4: Right yeah, And that's why I sound black pailed when
Speaker 4: I advice. This is what I tell people. Well, you
Speaker 4: cannot fix a problem with a lie. Yep, right so,
Speaker 4: and it's dark unfortunately, but that's what you need to
Speaker 4: know to fix it. You need to get as many
Speaker 4: people as you know in there to fix it. Although
Speaker 4: I think there's a point of no return, and only
Speaker 4: because I get that from the Bible, and they're like
Speaker 4: some guys who will say, oh, you're just throwing in
Speaker 4: a towel. No, God's history is our future, and if
Speaker 4: it's written down, I'm not being defeatist. We can't change it.
Speaker 4: But I don't know who's going to be saved. So
Speaker 4: that's why I still go do and find out who
Speaker 4: they are. Right, It's not my job to decide who
Speaker 4: makes it who doesn't make it. So those people who
Speaker 4: believe in the raft, a lot of people say they
Speaker 4: just sit around and they just wait. I don't know
Speaker 4: anybody but one who sits around and wait. Most of
Speaker 4: them like, we have no more time. We got to
Speaker 4: get out there and go, go, go. So, yeah, the
Speaker 4: Bible's truth, and that's where I look for the timeline.
Speaker 4: And also when I looked at a lot of people
Speaker 4: went to the seventy a d because of Tartaria. But
Speaker 4: if you studied these Babylonian religious and occults, you start
Speaker 4: to see in these Tartaria buildings the sacred geometry, well
Speaker 4: there's no and lots of statues to the Greek gods
Speaker 4: and gargles, like, there's no way you'd need that on
Speaker 4: the church. So my whole thing is is if Jesus
Speaker 4: rules with an iron rod, why is there rampant Satan worship?
Speaker 4: So to me, I kind of came up years ago
Speaker 4: with the same idea that Gary Wayne came with the Giants,
Speaker 4: because a lot of these royal families and bloodlines, they
Speaker 4: all claim Canaanite bloodlines. And when you follow it, I'm going, uh, Like,
Speaker 4: if you've read in the Temple of Fiebes, they talk
Speaker 4: about the white people, like white, redheaded people, and that
Speaker 4: was in Canaan. Canaanites were horrible people. Even the Egyptians
Speaker 4: try to wipe them out. And you got the Hittites,
Speaker 4: they were not liked, and you got because they're the
Speaker 4: ones that the living blood sacrifices. They're the ones with
Speaker 4: you cut the hat off, you sacrifice your children, you
Speaker 4: do all these things. It was crazy in Canaan, and
Speaker 4: you watch it and you kind of see that behavior
Speaker 4: goes all the way to Ireland, like the Picks. But
Speaker 4: then you find out in Florida they have similar to
Speaker 4: to Hebrew writing. Well that's ugarritic type writing ugur. It
Speaker 4: is really close to Hebrew and that's from Canaan. So
Speaker 4: I think they just migrated and since they're with the
Speaker 4: dark forces, they just moved to North America, a safe place.
Speaker 4: There's giants. And that's the other thing is the serpency
Speaker 4: wore giants don't make it into the millennial, So why
Speaker 4: are we having buildings for them?
Speaker 3: That's a great point. That is a great pace. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Canaanites were They were evil corrupt in certain uh
Speaker 3: you know adjective there. They were bad, bad people. They
Speaker 3: were uh big on the you know, the physical ritual
Speaker 3: of worship and child sacrifice and molock, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Uh, quarterly ordery rapes that they had very districsual behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing is, because I have all the
Speaker 4: pseudo pigerphot books. All the are are the books removed
Speaker 4: from the Bible, the apocryphy, have all those Enoch, Enoch,
Speaker 4: who was one of the first non biblical books I read,
Speaker 4: and honestly you can't. When you read Enoch, the New
Speaker 4: Testament makes sense. So Jesus could have easily discredited that book.
Speaker 4: I mean, his brother quotes it. He could have told
Speaker 4: his brother it's false. He could have told Peter it's false.
Speaker 4: He could have told anybody that it's false. But he didn't.
Speaker 4: He confirms it at a ridiculous rate. So one of
Speaker 4: the interesting things that's actually in your scriptures. Remember Jesus says,
Speaker 4: if you do something wrong and you didn't know, do
Speaker 4: you get punished fully? And his answer was no, But
Speaker 4: you don't get full reward either. So he says is
Speaker 4: a middle way, and then you go back into revelations.
Speaker 4: And when he brings down the city, well, outside the
Speaker 4: city gates is where the sinner's murderers and adulters are. Well,
Speaker 4: you didn't put the kingdom or the city in hell,
Speaker 4: and we can't leave, and why do we have guards?
Speaker 4: Who are we preventing to come in? So I think
Speaker 4: what they call the Land of the Reprieve, which is
Speaker 4: an enoch. He's like, who are these people? Well, they
Speaker 4: didn't do well enough to get into heaven, but they
Speaker 4: don't go to Hell. They paid the price already, so
Speaker 4: they get I guess the land of the Reprieve, that's
Speaker 4: what I call it. I don't know what to call it,
Speaker 4: but it's in your Bible. And I remember telling a
Speaker 4: guy that, and he said he looked, he read it,
Speaker 4: read and read it, read, and then when we finally
Speaker 4: seen it, he threw it. He couldn't believe it that
Speaker 4: it just popped out of nowhere, like in his eyes.
Speaker 4: So I think that's why it's pretty thing. When Jesus
Speaker 4: said they'll be grinding a national teeth, I think that
Speaker 4: sounds like bitterness.
Speaker 3: Good point.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could be wrong, let's face it, but
Speaker 4: I think it makes more sense. Why would you put
Speaker 4: a city, have guards, and have the murders and adulters
Speaker 4: there We can leave, well, if it's hell, we can't.
Speaker 4: And why would you put it there? Why would you
Speaker 4: breke a whole earth?
Speaker 3: It also reminds me of the Great Wall of China.
Speaker 3: What is it protecting? What does it keeping away?
Speaker 4: I said, you know, the openings are on the other
Speaker 4: side of the wall.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 4: They're letting the wrong people in. So there's more to it,
Speaker 4: and it's not cut and dry, and I think the
Speaker 4: Church has to stop lying to protect people. Right, what
Speaker 4: is used to say anything more than a yes or
Speaker 4: no is from the evil one? And what did the
Speaker 4: church do force you to sign a legal document for marriage?
Speaker 4: It's not for me to judge if they're legit or
Speaker 4: not right. Because legalism, as he read an Enoch, is
Speaker 4: a sin that was one of the sins of the watchers.
Speaker 4: Say that one more time, legalism lawssom is one of
Speaker 4: the sins that the watchers brought down. That God does
Speaker 4: not like your words should be everything.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. And you know I often state
Speaker 3: which it's it's not all the way to what that says.
Speaker 3: But there are so many laws that man creates that
Speaker 3: overstep God's law.
Speaker 4: By miles, I just said, yeah, Christianity is a control mechanism.
Speaker 4: I said, if you really look at it, there's only
Speaker 4: ten rules. Jesus said, love God or with all your
Speaker 4: heart and mind, and then the second one was to
Speaker 4: under others you'd have done to you. And then there's
Speaker 4: a ten lifestyles we're not allowed to live? How is
Speaker 4: twelve rules a control mechanism when you have over three
Speaker 4: hundred thousand and your freedom doesn't sound like freedom to me?
Speaker 4: Three hundred thousand laws give me. Christianity is free. And
Speaker 4: you know, you're not allowed to have slaves, you're not
Speaker 4: allowed to have usury, you're not allowed to mistreat yourself
Speaker 4: or others. You're you know, it's your body. Nobody else
Speaker 4: can take it. Like, where is this prison that you're describing.
Speaker 3: That's so great?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: I'm actually writing a I wish I could find it
Speaker 3: real quick, writing a substack. I've been working on it
Speaker 3: for a while. But it's called the war against you.
Speaker 3: And if you read Proverbs twenty nine, verse two, it says,
Speaker 3: when the righteous thrive, the people rejoice, when the when
Speaker 3: the wicked rule, the people grown. And you know, I
Speaker 3: cover many of the things that we're talking about, and
Speaker 3: how the matrix was smartly created by those who want
Speaker 3: to enslave us, you know, and that does include usury,
Speaker 3: debt based monetary systems, the hyper inflation. But a big
Speaker 3: thing to me, which I don't think we talk about enough,
Speaker 3: is how they disguise once as needs. Like, I think
Speaker 3: the younger generation many of us right don't know the
Speaker 3: true definition between a want and a need.
Speaker 4: No, oh, here's something you know the final ex Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: So I heard a stat and it was mentioned on
Speaker 4: your show before recently. So it was said one third
Speaker 4: of people between eighteen and twenty five believe the world's flat.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, Q, Candice Owens to put a
Speaker 4: stop to this, get the famous part people to squash
Speaker 4: it for us.
Speaker 3: Somebody will, And you know, it's interesting. I had a listener.
Speaker 3: I wish I had his name here. I want to
Speaker 3: give him a shout out real quick, but he emailed
Speaker 3: me and I think it was was it Nathan? Yeah, Nathan,
Speaker 3: shout out to Nathan. We'll just keep your first name there.
Speaker 3: And we talked about how difficult it is to you know,
Speaker 3: who do you trust, right, especially when people bought into
Speaker 3: Austin Witsitt and jaronism which who personally I never trusted him.
Speaker 3: He was more about his cryptone everything. But I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm not telling anybody not to listen to him or
Speaker 3: anything like that. I'm just telling you my what I think.
Speaker 3: But by the way, Austin wits. It's been going for
Speaker 3: a month. I hope he's okay. The guy who was
Speaker 3: behind it, the financier behind it, the pastor it was,
Speaker 3: you're all over. I think his name was Will Duffy, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's pastor and said what it was at
Speaker 4: twenty four people at thirty six thousand dollars apiece.
Speaker 3: Yes, And you know he's facing serious allegations, you know,
Speaker 3: causing investors to suffer up over a million dollars in damages,
Speaker 3: you know, So you know he's got a lot of problems.
Speaker 4: Well, if what's it was legit, right, you should know
Speaker 4: that you shouldn't have done the checkerboard thing where the
Speaker 4: guy had his shirt off and one dark, one off
Speaker 4: white and then hide a hand that's the hidden hand.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's like you should have known him better.
Speaker 4: And the other thing. I grew up as a child
Speaker 4: piled in northern Alberta. Okay, I have experienced minus fifty
Speaker 4: degrees centigrade weather. I can tell you right now, before
Speaker 4: your lungs hurt, your ears feel like there's razor blades
Speaker 4: cutting them home. So here's a guy complaining about his
Speaker 4: lungs hurting, and he's not wearing a tu that hurts
Speaker 4: way more before it ever hurts your lungs. And a
Speaker 4: lot of our guys who were working north up north
Speaker 4: right now, they're like when I was talking to they're
Speaker 4: all the same. Your ears feel like razor blades. You
Speaker 4: have to cover them. That happens way before your breath hurts.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my goodness. Anyway, I just heard about it,
Speaker 4: didn't see the video. I'm like, yeah, well, because I
Speaker 4: didn't see the point of it. If we could fake
Speaker 4: a sun, even if there was legitimate twenty four hours
Speaker 4: sun or not, it's now compromised and it's irrelevant. Anyway.
Speaker 4: I said, you don't judge the floor by those said,
Speaker 4: I don't walk into the sixteenth Chapel and expect a
Speaker 4: big dip in the floor.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not the same.
Speaker 3: And that's what I've responded to people with the emails
Speaker 3: was that still doesn't explain the fallacies of gravity, A
Speaker 3: spinning ball, water on a ball, people upside down right imagine?
Speaker 3: I said, how does how does you know? For the
Speaker 3: for the Australian military, how do you parachute in Australia?
Speaker 3: How does that work?
Speaker 4: What's going up what's going down reverse Bungie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just come on, let's just God gave us
Speaker 3: our senses, let's use them, right.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I noticed. Like, that's why I think
Speaker 4: the dark psychology you put in a school, because now
Speaker 4: you deny your senses, your eyes, your ears, your smell,
Speaker 4: your touch, you deny your senses for a guy in
Speaker 4: a white coat. Listen to that guy. He's got a PhD.
Speaker 4: And one of the guys I was talking to at work,
Speaker 4: trying to get him to go, I said, you don't
Speaker 4: the difference, why, I say, you're being Discovery channeled and
Speaker 4: he looks at me. I said, well, Discovery channel they
Speaker 4: have a guy with the PhD. Just tell you the
Speaker 4: stuff where the Independent tells you where to find it,
Speaker 4: how to look for it. So they're not afraid of
Speaker 4: the truth. The truth doesn't worry about being questioned. They're
Speaker 4: telling you where to find it. This one is just
Speaker 4: babbling at you. So, yeah, you're being Discovery channeled right now.
Speaker 3: Buddy, you're being Disneyed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Disney there's a Oh my goodness is
Speaker 4: a sick, twisted company.
Speaker 3: That as a rabbit hole in itself.
Speaker 4: But flat Earth didn't destroy my love for Star Wars
Speaker 4: and stuff, because to me it's fantasy. But exactly sports
Speaker 4: was killed because I was an oiler fan as you
Speaker 4: can see. Yeah, and I got the centerized package. This
Speaker 4: will be about two thousand and four, and my brother
Speaker 4: and I we'd watch it all the time. And then
Speaker 4: we started realizing that because you're here and all around
Speaker 4: the places and they're like, well this team, TV revenues
Speaker 4: and you start to be able to pick out who
Speaker 4: who's going to win what, And then we discovered this,
Speaker 4: this is a scam. So we stopped watching hockey because
Speaker 4: we said, Canadian teams used to win the Cup regularly, right.
Speaker 3: And now you got Florida teams winning the Cup.
Speaker 4: I said, then they changed from a sport to sports
Speaker 4: entertainment and they've never seen it since. I said, that's
Speaker 4: the day. I'm like, oh, you're just being miserable. No, no,
Speaker 4: that's and the NFL is worst. The NFL is just entertainment. Yep,
Speaker 4: it's it's not even sports entertainment. I'm like, how can
Speaker 4: people watch this stuff? I like to play it, I
Speaker 4: love playing it. I just I don't watch it anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got awakened. I was never a huge basketball fan,
Speaker 3: but the two thousand and two NBA Finals Sacramento Kings
Speaker 3: or I think it was the Western Conference Finals. And
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything so rigged in my life. And
Speaker 3: now there's so many YouTube channels dedicated to exposing how
Speaker 3: fake sports are. And listen that now, the fact that
Speaker 3: every major sport has betting on it, and if you
Speaker 3: go to MLB or NFL's website, they have their draft
Speaker 3: kings and all these other things involved in it, and
Speaker 3: that there's a reason why the casinos are so nice
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. They weren't built on losing.
Speaker 4: Let let me know, Well, you could just look at
Speaker 4: the last Stanley Cup final. I was looking at this all.
Speaker 4: This is just a show being put on. Florida was
Speaker 4: always going to win because I picked Florida before it started.
Speaker 4: The guy goes, why do you think Florida, Well, because
Speaker 4: they've got the fastest growing population in the States right now.
Speaker 4: They don't want a winner, That's right.
Speaker 3: So I never You rarely see a small market team win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's no money, especially in Canada, they watch
Speaker 4: whether they lose or not. Yes, you're sixty percent of
Speaker 4: the league's revenue, but you will watch when every team's out.
Speaker 4: If you want to fix it, stop watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Toronto will sell out always, no matter. And they
Speaker 3: haven't had a championship since what sixty four?
Speaker 4: I think yeah sixty four.
Speaker 3: Y'all broke our hearts in nineteen eighty seven, my favorite
Speaker 3: flyer sports team. We had Ron Heckstall, all those tough guys,
Speaker 3: and I think we lost in Game seven.
Speaker 4: I remember a Boston guy was Buggy Red and he
Speaker 4: because you you must hate the Boston Bruins, said why
Speaker 4: I want to hate the Boston Bruins. It gave us
Speaker 4: two Stanley Cups.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: I like those guys. Nice, But I don't watch sports.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the same once you wake up. But
Speaker 3: that's okay. I mean, I'll go to a game once
Speaker 3: a year. We'll me and my friend will go down
Speaker 3: to either Baltimore, Philly and we'll visit normany Land and
Speaker 3: spend you know, ten dollars for pepsi and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: eight dollars for hot Dog and twenty five dollars to
Speaker 3: park our car and that we'll call it a year.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the prices of used vehicles right now?
Speaker 3: Yes. As a matter of fact, the new car sales
Speaker 3: are so bad. My wife and I were driving to
Speaker 3: the Sam's Club, I think, and we got a phone call.
Speaker 3: It was local, so I answered it and it was
Speaker 3: some lady from the Ford dealership and she says, Hey,
Speaker 3: if you'd like to trade in your truck right now,
Speaker 3: on top of the trade value, we will give you
Speaker 3: an additional two thousand dollars toward the trade of a
Speaker 3: new vehicle. And I'm like, my truck's paid off and
Speaker 3: it's only got sixty seven douns. I don't drive it much.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not trading it in. They're hurting
Speaker 3: that the vehicle industry is in big trouble because the
Speaker 3: used car value is going up, I think eighty percent
Speaker 3: in the last two years.
Speaker 4: I think. I saw, we'll see my truck's at twenty fifth,
Speaker 4: twenty ten, and I have to do cam facers. This
Speaker 4: in the shop right now, getting that done, And so
Speaker 4: I go, maybe I have to look at used vehicles.
Speaker 4: My truck with one hundred and eighty thousand k was
Speaker 4: worked between twenty five and thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I was blown away. I'm like, that's almost what
Speaker 4: I paid for it. When I bought it years ago.
Speaker 4: So they said, yeah, just put Uh, well they fixed it,
Speaker 4: they're fixing it. But one guy said, you could put
Speaker 4: a new engine and transmission in here. It'd be way
Speaker 4: cheaper than even buying a used vehicle. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to run mine to the ground until
Speaker 3: the wheels fall off.
Speaker 4: As they say, well, mine has three hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: three k.
Speaker 3: That's insane, still going. That means you took care of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well when you pay those prices. One guy
Speaker 4: just bought his truck one hundred and it's a duly,
Speaker 4: but it was one hundred and eighty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: What Yeah, I'm like my house was like four thousand
Speaker 4: dollars less than your truck. Life first, goodness, it's crazy,
Speaker 4: what a world we live in.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what. We're just about out of
Speaker 3: time and we've covered so many subjects today, but as always,
Speaker 3: before we go, I'd like to give you the last word.
Speaker 3: If there was any last thing you wanted to cover,
Speaker 3: or the floor's yours.
Speaker 4: Well, if I would have had my notes, we could
Speaker 4: have went for hours. I'm just done the uh, the
Speaker 4: Birth of Jesus and September eleventh, Oh, the September eleventh, Right,
Speaker 4: Remember the video I showed you. That was Michael Hensarkins video.
Speaker 4: I've seen three of them. Were you anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: All I could say is that once you have Jesus
Speaker 4: in your heart and you truly understand he's the Lord
Speaker 4: and Savior, it doesn't matter how black it gets. It's
Speaker 4: black for them, not for me. You know, I could
Speaker 4: tell you right now. Worldly things just went out the
Speaker 4: door many years ago. I don't need it, you know. Money.
Speaker 4: To me, money is easiest thing to replace. He may
Speaker 4: not have as much, but there's no point in losing
Speaker 4: a friend over it. Ever, a lot of these things,
Speaker 4: there's no point and question everything. Well unless you get
Speaker 4: a trust your source like you've. You've convinced be enough
Speaker 4: that I don't always have to, you know, dig deep
Speaker 4: into your stuff. When somebody earns their their mark, but
Speaker 4: they got to earn it, don't give it away.
Speaker 3: I agree that that's one hundred percent spot on. By
Speaker 3: the way, I did find that article. It's entitled September eleventh,
Speaker 3: Happy Birthday to Jesus from September eleventh, twenty sixteen by
Speaker 3: Mike Heiser. I'll put that in the show notes, and
Speaker 3: there's a YouTube link as well if you'd like to
Speaker 3: check it out. And of course, from his eschatological point
Speaker 3: of view is that's the reason obviously why they did
Speaker 3: nine eleven. Right, Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 4: Remember that three thousand people were saved by the gift
Speaker 4: of the Holy Spirit from Jesus kind of a birthday.
Speaker 4: Give three thousand people died conveniently on that day. And
Speaker 4: then I said, the new tower it's built on the
Speaker 4: foundation of building six, which was the first to go down.
Speaker 4: It's actually caught. It was caught on Fox. It blew
Speaker 4: up just before the other one did. They said it
Speaker 4: was a fire, But I'm like, I'm not captain of
Speaker 4: a fire department. There is no melted wires, there's no
Speaker 4: charring on your drop t roof, your dry wall, still light.
Speaker 4: That was not a fire that brought that building down.
Speaker 4: And then they built the new tower one hundred and
Speaker 4: four stories one four six. There's your final eleven.
Speaker 3: That's what you mentioned. That's what you mentioned the other day.
Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, yeah, that's just like.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the King James Bible, which is Acts two,
Speaker 3: verse forty one. Then they that gladly received his word,
Speaker 3: were baptized, and the same day they were added unto
Speaker 3: them about three thousand souls.
Speaker 4: Yep. That's the other thing i'd say that people get.
Speaker 4: Don't just stick to one version of a Bible. Get
Speaker 4: a lo It's especially when you can get digital downloads
Speaker 4: for free. And I would suggest having a word for
Speaker 4: word where it's not any not a word for thought,
Speaker 4: which most Bibles are, but a direct word for word
Speaker 4: that's don't go from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree that that that's I find so interesting.
Speaker 3: Then only my my thing with the what's the Bible
Speaker 3: from fifteen sixty? The uh thank you is the one
Speaker 3: that you get from Amazon. The print is so small
Speaker 3: and it's like it's not even it's hard for me
Speaker 3: to read. I'm trying to find one that has the
Speaker 3: side notes but bigger that you can see because I
Speaker 3: struggle with my vision here in my old age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're getting old. Yeah, I'm fifty one.
Speaker 3: I'll be.
Speaker 1: Worse.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Wow, Well I learned your history, yes, because that helps
Speaker 4: you understand the Bible better. Culture.
Speaker 3: Ye, well, brother, it's been so it's been such a
Speaker 3: great conversation. Maybe you can join us again down the road.
Speaker 3: There's there's much more to talk about, but thank you
Speaker 3: so much for your time today, and God bless you
Speaker 3: and yours, and to all our listeners, thank you so
Speaker 3: much for your continued support of the Flat Earth Files
Speaker 3: podcast and for for Dan. I'm George. God bless everyone.
Speaker 3: Have a great week and keep your head on a swivel.
Speaker 3: And until we meet again, my friends, we will see.
Speaker 5: I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you've
Speaker 5: had spin. I know you feeling tied, hell down by
Speaker 5: all the way? Yeah, I know you feeling.
Speaker 4: Are you smile?
Speaker 6: Ain't the same?
Speaker 5: I s w go from you.
Speaker 6: She like you've lost your way. Don't give it, No,
Speaker 6: don't give it and nevers home. Don't let call the primise.
Speaker 4: It ain't done yet.
Speaker 3: He's got a plaid. Why it's a way?
Speaker 1: Time got up? May we come? Why it's a right
Speaker 1: God up to recall.
Speaker 5: I can see the straight beside you. Child's are putting
Speaker 5: up five.
Speaker 7: Oh, you're stronger than anything you Yeah, you're gonna be
Speaker 7: all right. You're accepting a dead body. Beautiful, you're shoving ride.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you live and breathing.
Speaker 3: Move you can hold what you had.
Speaker 8: Don't give up? No, don't give in, never loves home?
Speaker 8: Don't they gone on the primies It ain't Dounion's god,
Speaker 8: I clai why some waintail the god of mabe come,
Speaker 8: don't give up? No, don't give in you never love home?
Speaker 8: Don't let go on the primis. It ain't don of life.
Speaker 8: It's worth live me? Why's a plaintwn?
Speaker 6: The god up?
Speaker 8: Babe cold?
Speaker 3: Why sur pace down?
Speaker 7: Got up?
Speaker 6: Stay cold? Oh?
Speaker 8: Yes, what's a pray down?
Speaker 6: The god say? Come?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got up?
Speaker 7: Be called?
Speaker 8: Don't give up?
Speaker 5: No, don't give in? Never the soul do they go
Speaker 5: of the primise?
Speaker 4: I mean and done?
Speaker 5: Ye's got a plan?
Speaker 3: Whats the god of if it comes?
Speaker 6: And don't give up?
Speaker 5: No dog give in? Never the soul don't. The goal
Speaker 5: of the primis get ain't done? Others what living in?
Speaker 5: What's died? The God of ever records Ah, the god
Speaker 5: of need cos what's done?
Speaker 4: The God of in coach.
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Speaker 4: Just the facts, ma'am