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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for swamp Watch. I'm a politician, which means

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we got.

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<v Speaker 3>The real problem is that our leaders are done.

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<v Speaker 2>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So now now you train the squat.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by

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<v Speaker 2>what has been. You know, Murvans have always been going

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<v Speaker 2>at President. They're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>A political plunder is what a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the people voting for you were not swamp watch?

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<v Speaker 2>They're all counterned.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump was on Capitol Hill today to try to

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<v Speaker 5>deliver a message to House Republicans ahead of the vote

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<v Speaker 5>on this massive bill for his domestic agenda. He wants

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<v Speaker 5>them to stop fighting. He wants them to get this

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<v Speaker 5>thing passed as soon as possible. In a closed door

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<v Speaker 5>meeting that took place, the President spoke afterwards. Hear from

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<v Speaker 5>him in a second The President took aim at a

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<v Speaker 5>block of Republicans who have been pushing for a higher

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<v Speaker 5>cap on the deduction that their constituents can take for

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<v Speaker 5>state and local taxes. It's known as salt. He's also

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<v Speaker 5>warning conservative hardliners against the deep cuts to Medicaid. This

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<v Speaker 5>comes as at a I guess you would argue a

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<v Speaker 5>critical time for the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,

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<v Speaker 5>who is trying to steer the party line. He's trying

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<v Speaker 5>to trying to make everybody happy here. This multi trillion

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<v Speaker 5>dollar bill would be one of the largest bills ever

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<v Speaker 5>passed by Congress, just in sheer size, in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>the money that it that it's that it deals with.

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<v Speaker 5>After the meeting, President Trump came out and said, everyone's happy.

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<v Speaker 2>No shouting.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no shouting that I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting of love. There were a couple of things that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Specifically where some people felt a little bit one way

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<v Speaker 3>or the other not a big deal, and I covered them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't so much a speech.

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<v Speaker 3>I covered certain points.

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<v Speaker 5>Car Samenez out of New York, Florida, Sorry, Florida Congressman

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<v Speaker 5>UH Republican had said that this issue of the state

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<v Speaker 5>and local taxes, which has been one of the main

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<v Speaker 5>sticking points, is going to be workout. He says, they

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<v Speaker 5>they will find some some common ground on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we will find the middle ground, uh for that

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<v Speaker 3>will satisfy those in the blue states, uh that you

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<v Speaker 3>know are asking for the an additional you know, state

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<v Speaker 3>and local tax deduction, uh, and those that want the

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<v Speaker 3>more spending cuts. Again, these are these are issues around

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<v Speaker 3>the edges.

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<v Speaker 7>UH.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not the main part of this bill.

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<v Speaker 6>And UH.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I am confident that we will find uh

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<v Speaker 3>that that sweet spot. You know, Speaker Speaker Johnson has

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<v Speaker 3>a great ability of getting people together, is well respected

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<v Speaker 3>by everybody, and you know in our conference.

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<v Speaker 5>So that issue of these state and local tax deductions

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<v Speaker 5>that right now, it would boost the salt cap up

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<v Speaker 5>to thirty thousand dollars that you can deduct from your

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<v Speaker 5>federal taxes based on the state and local taxes that

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<v Speaker 5>you pay as much up to thirty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Currently it's at ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>Pro salt Republicans say that that is way too low,

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<v Speaker 5>and Trump says, hey, you gotta let it go. He

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<v Speaker 5>specifically went after Mike Lawler, a Republican out of New York,

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<v Speaker 5>who could potentially be running for governor by the way,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, end it, Mike, just end it. According

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<v Speaker 5>to at least a couple of the lawmakers who saw this,

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<v Speaker 5>Nick Laloda, also in New York, said we need a

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<v Speaker 5>little more salt on the table to get to yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically.

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<v Speaker 5>He also Trump apparently said to Lawler, if you, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>I know your district better than you do, and if

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<v Speaker 5>you lose because of salt, you were going to lose anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the others that he's going after is Thomas Massey,

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<v Speaker 5>Republican congressman out of Kentucky, who can't be told to

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<v Speaker 5>do anything. This is a guy, I guess you would

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<v Speaker 5>say in the in the vein of the senator from

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<v Speaker 5>his state in Kentucky, of Rand Paul, who is not

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<v Speaker 5>going to toe the party line. If he doesn't, he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't tow the party line just to tow the

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<v Speaker 5>party line. Thomas Massey is a giant no on this

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<v Speaker 5>more because of the deficit spending than any other issue.

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<v Speaker 5>He thinks that we can't continue to spend our way

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<v Speaker 5>into oblivion. That's what Thomas Massey has said and he's

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<v Speaker 5>been a no on other bills before that have spent

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of money. Trump told reporters that Massey should

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<v Speaker 5>be voted out of office and that other reconciliation opponents

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<v Speaker 5>should be should possibly face primary challenges. Of course, Thomas

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<v Speaker 5>Massey doesn't care what the President says and is still

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<v Speaker 5>a no. He's not going to be threatened and has

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<v Speaker 5>stood up to Trump before, so that's not a giant surprise.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>Coming up at noon, President Trump is also expected to

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<v Speaker 5>unveil plans for an iron dome system here in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>He would call it.

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<v Speaker 5>The Golden Dome in order to protect the United States

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<v Speaker 5>from any threat of missiles coming in from North Korea

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<v Speaker 5>or elsewhere. It's very similar to if you're old enough

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<v Speaker 5>to remember, the Star Wars program. Experts say it could

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<v Speaker 5>cost The Golden Dome program could cost anywhere from tens

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<v Speaker 5>of billions to hundreds of billions, depending on how it

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<v Speaker 5>is set up, how thorough it is. Trump's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be joined by the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and

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<v Speaker 5>General Michael Goutline, the vice chair a vice chief of

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<v Speaker 5>Space Operations for the Pentagon. He is the one that's

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<v Speaker 5>being asked to lead the Golden Dome project, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>coming up at noon today. Up next, we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 5>about what your brain does in those AHA moments. But

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<v Speaker 5>a quick question. There's a study that came out. We're

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk about it more tomorrow when we get

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<v Speaker 5>into parenting issues with Justin Warsham when he comes along.

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<v Speaker 5>But children and teenagers of any age who sip or

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<v Speaker 5>taste alcohol with their parents' permission, that's a key, are

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<v Speaker 5>more likely to engage in risky drinking in young adulthood.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you did you drink with your parents' permission when

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<v Speaker 5>you were underage? Or do you allow your kids to

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<v Speaker 5>drink if they're not twenty one? And what impact do

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<v Speaker 5>you think that made on your kids? Leave us a

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<v Speaker 5>the app and send us a quick message. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>drink underage? Did you drink underage? Do you allow your

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<v Speaker 5>kids to drink underage? And what's you're thinking behind that?

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll talk about that a little bit later and

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<v Speaker 5>then rejoin it revisit it tomorrow as well. The AHA

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<v Speaker 5>moments look different in your brain. We'll talk about those

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<v Speaker 5>aha moments we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>You ever have one of those moments when you are

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<v Speaker 5>trying to solve a puzzle, or maybe something as simple

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<v Speaker 5>as watching a TV show a murder mystery, and you

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<v Speaker 5>figure out who did it before they tell you who

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<v Speaker 5>did it. There was a study that came out of

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<v Speaker 5>Duke University in the University of Berlin that talked about

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<v Speaker 5>these light bulb moments, these Aha moments when a solution

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<v Speaker 5>suddenly clicks in your head and it shows it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just it's just not just satisfying that you solved this puzzle,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it was, that there's an actual physical change that

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<v Speaker 5>goes on in your brain and how it processes that

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<v Speaker 5>information and then stores that information and makes that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of an Aha moment that solution so much more memorable

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<v Speaker 5>than something that you just learn over time that's repeated,

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<v Speaker 5>they said. They the researchers referred to these as Eureka

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<v Speaker 5>moments and why we tend to remember the solutions that

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<v Speaker 5>we came to through sudden insight as opposed to stuff

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<v Speaker 5>that we learned through routine methods. New study Nature communications.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get your local checkout after you're done looking

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<v Speaker 5>at the classifieds. It came out this week's Nature Just Communications.

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<v Speaker 5>During this experiment, they participants tried to identify objects in

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<v Speaker 5>abstract black and white images they're called mooney images while

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<v Speaker 5>they were inside and MRI scanner. And after they identified

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<v Speaker 5>each job object, they rated how suddenly the solution came

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<v Speaker 5>to them, how certain they felt about their answer, and

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<v Speaker 5>about how positive they felt about solving it. And then

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<v Speaker 5>about five days later they would ask participants to remember

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<v Speaker 5>those solutions, and they said that those solutions discovered with

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<v Speaker 5>the high level of insight AHA, that kind of insight

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<v Speaker 5>were remembered about twice as well as those that found

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<v Speaker 5>through gradual recognition. Something in there triggers your brain to

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<v Speaker 5>store it in a specific area that gives it more

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<v Speaker 5>importance than something you would learn over a routine, certain

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<v Speaker 5>routine in your life. The brain scans revealed that during

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<v Speaker 5>those moments, visual processing areas showed mark changes in how

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<v Speaker 5>they represented information. And at the same time you get

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<v Speaker 5>emotional about it, your emotional center in the amygdala and

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<v Speaker 5>the hippocampus become more active and better synchronized with that

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<v Speaker 5>visual area that you're in and that when we experience

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<v Speaker 5>the high levels of insight again the aha, the Eureka moments,

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<v Speaker 5>there are stronger shifts in the activation patterns within the

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<v Speaker 5>brain regions that process solution relevant information, particularly the visual

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<v Speaker 5>cortext for visual problems. These areas work very closely in

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<v Speaker 5>the brain's emotional and memory systems and that form that

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<v Speaker 5>interconnected network. I know it's not Thursday, it's not strange science,

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<v Speaker 5>but this is an important thing, and they said it

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<v Speaker 5>is very important for low earning as well, because outside

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<v Speaker 5>of just the you know, the rote practice. Think I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, multiplication tables when you're in elementary school. If

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<v Speaker 5>you can find a way to teach a kid an

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<v Speaker 5>elementary school a way to work out the mathematical problems

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<v Speaker 5>to an AHA moment as opposed to just practicing them,

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<v Speaker 5>then sometimes those will stick better than the regular routine

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<v Speaker 5>practice of here you go, this is what your times

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<v Speaker 5>tables are going to be, and this is how you

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<v Speaker 5>memorize them. So that's that's good. You can always leave

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<v Speaker 5>us a talk back message. Just sit that little microphone

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<v Speaker 5>button while you're listening on the iHeart app. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>my wife did it, so I guess everybody gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim, I'm just trying to follow your instructions.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you want beef or salmon tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Jim, I said beef.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, hey, Gary, you know the Boles man of secrets.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought maybe you were coming over to my house.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight forploy.

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<v Speaker 2>And a hot dog?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, don't play that.

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<v Speaker 3>That was horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>That was really a joke just for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now you shared it with everybody, Gary bro Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that message from your wife wasn't hey, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want for dinners?

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<v Speaker 4>More like?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>And I am the show? And Shannon's out there? Because

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<v Speaker 2>their two days when you guys are by yourself, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of hard to listen. You guys are too newsy,

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<v Speaker 5>All right, a whole series of Tearing the Sky stories

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand KFI.

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<v Speaker 5>The FAA confirmed that yet another system outage occurred at

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<v Speaker 5>Liberty International Airport. And why not that's where we begin

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<v Speaker 5>our Terror in the Skies.

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<v Speaker 4>Flights to zero niner orlayer for day off, Roger, get

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<v Speaker 4>off my plane, Roderick Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>What's our Victor?

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<v Speaker 4>Victor?

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<v Speaker 2>En is enough?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a hand to put these munkey fight and

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<v Speaker 1>snakes on this money. It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in

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<v Speaker 5>So the FAA is investigating a brief radio system outage

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<v Speaker 2>There in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not good. It doesn't get much better when

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<v Speaker 5>I play the sound for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought United had cleared well before that. Stare for

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<v Speaker 2>Why does he have to get the other United out

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<v Speaker 2>of the way? Oh, I don't know. Because the radio

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<v Speaker 2>went out.

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<v Speaker 5>Lost the radar frequency again.

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<v Speaker 5>The FAA said the control tower lost radio frequencies for

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<v Speaker 5>two seconds yesterday morning at about eleven thirty New Jersey time.

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<v Speaker 5>Despite that, everything remained safely separated.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is the fourth time since April twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth time that there has been a system outage

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<v Speaker 5>that's responding for these responsible for these flights to come

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<v Speaker 5>There were more flight disruptions. There was a third outage

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<v Speaker 5>two days after that which halted flights. Staffing shortages linked

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<v Speaker 5>He said earlier this month that we are in the

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars. Right now, we know that the FAA system

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<v Speaker 5>relies on technology that was outdated before I graduated from

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<v Speaker 5>that same outdated equipment. Obviously, there are problems with the

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<v Speaker 5>shortage of air traffic controllers in the US. More than

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<v Speaker 5>be inadequately staffed. They fall short of standards that were

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<v Speaker 5>Controllers Union that put them together. So no word today

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<v Speaker 5>continue at Newark for some time. Nearby up in that

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<v Speaker 5>same area, there was a close call at LaGuardia Airport

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<v Speaker 5>and NTSP. This is one of many of the close calls,

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<v Speaker 5>the go arounds, and the accidents that has prompted calls

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<v Speaker 5>So this happened right about twelve thirty in the morning

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<v Speaker 5>on May sixth, and air traffic controller canceled the takeoff

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<v Speaker 5>clearance for American Eagle flight forty seven thirty six because

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<v Speaker 5>he had to yell. The controller had to yell brickyard

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<v Speaker 5>carrying one hundred and seven passenger six crew members, the

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<v Speaker 5>at Newark. These close calls like this, yeah, they happen.

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<v Speaker 5>One way I heard it to describe today is they

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<v Speaker 5>it sound like they were separated. But if you called it,

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<v Speaker 2>The situation is.

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<v Speaker 5>When it comes to the tens of thousands of flights

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<v Speaker 5>that operate throughout the United just the United States, the

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<v Speaker 5>States each and every day, how many of these close

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<v Speaker 5>calls are there? I'm surprised there are not more. But again,

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<v Speaker 5>some instances like this one, today's the ninth, today's the twentieth,

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<v Speaker 5>Unless you were the pilot or the air traffic controller,

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<v Speaker 5>this stuff isn't advertised very often. So that's just a

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<v Speaker 5>and one is a door dash story, which doesn't make

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll tell you more about that coming up. Also,

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<v Speaker 5>taking your talkbacks, did you drink as a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean.

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<v Speaker 5>That to be flippant, but there's a study out that

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<v Speaker 5>talks about how it is people respond when they're allowed

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, guys, I've got six kids and I've always let

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<v Speaker 4>them taste alcoholic beverages. We've never been big alcohol drinkers

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<v Speaker 4>in my household, although you know, I ran the when

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's experienced for a lot of people. Some people

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<v Speaker 5>had said that their parents were teetotalers and they never drank.

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<v Speaker 5>Others said that they grew up in an alcoholic family,

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<v Speaker 5>leave us your talk back. If you're listening on the app,

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<v Speaker 5>hit that little microphone button. And if you were allowed

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<v Speaker 5>the way that you handled alcohol in the future or

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<v Speaker 5>do you allow your kids to do it? You allow

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<v Speaker 5>your kids to drink alcohol with permission. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 5>all of that later on in the show. We'll also

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<v Speaker 5>revisit it tomorrow with Justin Warsham. We do our parenting

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<v Speaker 5>segment more in the skies though. Right around the corner you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 5>We were asking for talkbacks of your experience. Did you

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<v Speaker 5>allow your kids to drink when they were teenagers or

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<v Speaker 5>did you drink as a teenager and how it affected

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<v Speaker 5>how you looked at alcohol for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 7>I have to assume Child Protective Services is listening to

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<v Speaker 7>these phone calls. No, that's what I'm going to refrain

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<v Speaker 7>from talking about my alcoholic tendencies in my childhood.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, have a good one, Gary, Well, if it was

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<v Speaker 5>your childhood, there's not much they're going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>So the other thing is, no, they're not, No, they

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<v Speaker 5>We're in the midst of an extended terror in the

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<v Speaker 5>skies segment today, we talked about so those near misses

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<v Speaker 5>that had happened, one of them at LaGuardia just a

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<v Speaker 6>What's up, Gary, justin here from Riverside, a former flight

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<v Speaker 6>instructor and was just listening to terror in the skies

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<v Speaker 6>or talking about that near miss on the runway, And

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<v Speaker 6>we call those runway incursions and they do, indeed have

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<v Speaker 6>severity A which is like a near myst that was

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<v Speaker 6>actually narrowly avoided, to D, which was just there was

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<v Speaker 6>like you said, would be helpful to categorize those customer

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<v Speaker 6>severe and some are not, but they all have been

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<v Speaker 2>Justin thank you for that. Appreciated.

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<v Speaker 5>But speaking of here's an incursion a car where it

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<v Speaker 5>shouldn't have been On Saturday, a door Dash driver made

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<v Speaker 5>his way onto Chicago O'Hare International Airport grounds. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not talking about driving through the terminal. I mean through

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<v Speaker 5>a restricted area, and they said may have accidentally driven

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<v Speaker 5>over taxiways while trying to find his way back out

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<v Speaker 5>of the airport. Thirty six year old driver making a delivery,

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<v Speaker 5>he accessed the airside areas, how they referred to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who caught him or you know who

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<v Speaker 2>noticed him.

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<v Speaker 5>The air traffic controllers in the tower saw this unauthorized

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<v Speaker 5>vehicle making its way through secured parts of the airport.

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<v Speaker 5>They may have crossed multiple internal roads and potentially even

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<v Speaker 5>taxiways before they were noticed by the air traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 5>Airport authorities were able to intercept this guy. They questioned him.

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<v Speaker 5>He said he was completely there by mistake, no big deal,

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<v Speaker 5>accidentally drove to within that secured area, no malicious intent,

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<v Speaker 5>no charges, no citations anything. Door Dash also had to

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<v Speaker 5>come out. They acknowledged the event. They're actively reviewing the

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<v Speaker 5>details around exactly what happened. This is not the first

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<v Speaker 5>time that this has happened. Amazingly, you drive around Lax,

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<v Speaker 5>you drive around Burbank, It's hard to find a place

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<v Speaker 5>to get in that even looks like you could get

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<v Speaker 5>in if you're unless you're going through the normal concourse

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<v Speaker 5>in front of the airport. A former air traffic controller

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<v Speaker 5>said that this was pretty frightening. This guy also flew

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<v Speaker 5>business jets. Emphasized how dangerous it could have been because

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<v Speaker 5>he says, imagine if this had been at night. Imagine

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<v Speaker 5>if this was harder for air traffic controllers to identify

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<v Speaker 5>that as an unauthorized vehicle. Yeah, you got headlines rolling around,

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<v Speaker 5>but you got headlights for other vehicles that are traveling

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<v Speaker 5>within that airside portion of the airport that are fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Headlights all look the same in the dark, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>And it could have been really, really bad. Chicago's major

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<v Speaker 5>airports experienced several similar breaches. In April of last year,

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<v Speaker 5>a city owned vehicle went on an active taxiway at

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<v Speaker 5>O'Hare without prior clearance that prompted a near miss, if

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<v Speaker 5>you want to call it that an incursion with a

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<v Speaker 5>regional aircraft. That was one of at least three runway

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<v Speaker 5>or taxiway access violations involving ground vehicles at O'Hare during

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<v Speaker 5>that year. Chicago Midway there was just in February Chicago midway,

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<v Speaker 5>there was a flex Jet Challenger three point fifty business

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<v Speaker 5>jet that crossed an active runway without authorization and if

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<v Speaker 5>you remember that, that forced a Southwest flight to abort

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<v Speaker 5>its landing just a few seconds before a touchdown. But okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let's send the terrans in the skies with a positive story. Shally,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a woman from Ohio who's.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a chance encounter with a handsome pilot.

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<v Speaker 5>If you will, Tanya is her name, not even going

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<v Speaker 5>to try her last name because it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a bunch of letters, she says. Every time

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<v Speaker 5>I tell the story, people think I'm making it up.

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<v Speaker 5>She's flying home with her family to Cleveland. She catches

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<v Speaker 5>this guy checking her out while she's at the airport

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<v Speaker 5>in Charlotte, North Carolina. Sees that this guy has a

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<v Speaker 5>pilot's uniform on Hello, and that he's a head taller

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<v Speaker 5>than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 5>She didn't think anything of it until she gets onto

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<v Speaker 5>her flight Frontier and sees that this guy, Wesley, was

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<v Speaker 5>on the same plane as he was in uniform. She

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<v Speaker 5>initially thought, oh, that's our pilot, realized he was actually

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<v Speaker 5>off duty. He's just deadheading to a different flight headed

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<v Speaker 5>to Ohio. He gave Tanya's nephew a wave as she

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<v Speaker 5>was carrying the kid down the aisle to her seat

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<v Speaker 5>toward the back of the plane. She then didn't interact

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<v Speaker 5>with him for the rest of the flight until they land,

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<v Speaker 5>when he approaches her with a note, She said, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sitting in a row towards the back. About twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 5>before landing. I got a tap on my shoulder and

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<v Speaker 5>it's that guy handing me a napkin.

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<v Speaker 2>I made my mom and my sister read. At first,

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<v Speaker 2>I was freaking out.

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<v Speaker 5>This message read again, written on a napkin of a

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<v Speaker 5>Frontier airline's flight. Hi, I'm sure you get notes like

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<v Speaker 5>this all the time, but I would love to take

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<v Speaker 5>you out to dinner and get to know you.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's something you'd be up for, let me know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he dropped his digits.

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<v Speaker 5>She later learned the pilot had never asked out anyone before,

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<v Speaker 5>let alone somebody on a plane, and had to be

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<v Speaker 5>hyped up by one of the flight attendants who helped

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<v Speaker 5>him right on the napkin.

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<v Speaker 2>She said.

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<v Speaker 5>She texted the guy the next day and they have

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<v Speaker 5>been together ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Since so.

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<v Speaker 5>You can find love in the air twelve o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 5>when we come back, not only have we got more

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<v Speaker 5>information about the trending stories, we have a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>true crime stories to get to, including how the crypto

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<v Speaker 5>bros Are going after each other. Nothing like a little

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<v Speaker 5>physical assault to make you feel better about your crypto farming.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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