Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Say, Hester and Hester got it from.
Speaker 1: Carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each other
on the air.
Speaker 2: Well, let's drop control.
Speaker 1: Live from downtown Baton Rouge. It's off the bench.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in now re number three of
OTV here on this Tuesday morning. And look we have
done I feel like a pretty good job of not
making it feel like a Tuesday, which is the worst
day of the week. I think we can all agree
to that. So the vibes have been high, really, but
now we got to talk New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep in mind Nick.
Speaker 5: Underhill, New Orleans, not football.
Speaker 3: Our guy joins us now to do so, Nicholas, what's
going on, sir? How are we doing two things? Like one?
Speaker 2: I don't believe that the vibes are gonna be high
throughout this conversation.
Speaker 4: Come on, like.
Speaker 2: Tuesday's a good day. It's Taco Tuesday. Like I don't
like the pr happening here, Like that's a good day
of the week.
Speaker 5: I know it's like Monday, though.
Speaker 3: You got like reaction to games good or bad, like Wednesday.
I don't know, it's like he kind of got hum day.
It's like you're kind of in the middle of the week.
Thursday vibes are incredible. And of course Fridays or Fridays,
I don't know, Tuesdays is kind of like, all right,
I do our review last week, do our preview this week.
You get stuck in purgatory a little bit. I don't know,
Maybe maybe you can change our minds. Taco Tuesday is
a good way to start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Taco Tuesday in AMC. Like they got cheaper
movies on Tuesdays. Like it's a good day man.
Speaker 6: Objectively, Nick, I gotta ask you a question, and we
like to ask a lot of our guests this question
when speaking about tacos. When you think of a taco,
just a generic taco, is it hard shell or is
it a soft shell?
Speaker 4: Is it just a tortilla?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for sure soft shell taco, no doubt about it.
Like like a hard shell is like it's like that's
like third grade child is grow up right? Like refined palate? Yeah,
I mean like you're just not you're just not living, right, That's.
Speaker 4: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: These animals, the soft in the room, like soft tacos.
Speaker 5: That's no, no, that's no surprise.
Speaker 4: That guy's so defensive. Naked's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I mean, it's okay that you eat
like a like a like a third grader man, Like
nobody's judging you for it, but like it's just it's
a very unrefined, undignified.
Speaker 5: Hey, you watch it.
Speaker 3: You watch a third grade football team play every single week,
So we're right on the same page.
Speaker 4: Mack.
Speaker 6: I just I love you man. That was great, great
spot because I just told him recently to grow up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Like that's that's like
what my nephew eats. And I'll be like, oh, taco's
like he's got to eat like a crunchy taco. Like,
no doubt that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Brunchy tacos are delicious. Go ahead, follow up a question there, Matt.
Speaker 4: Her I asked my follow up question. It was great.
I got the perfect answer. That's all I need.
Speaker 3: We have to we have to soft tacos. I've heard
it is so defensive right now, don't you asked that
question to everybody?
Speaker 5: Like it's like I haven't gotten a vote yet. It's
tend to nothing. So I don't know why you continue.
Speaker 3: To add.
Speaker 2: All right, soft tacos, soft coverages.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 3: All right, So the first two weeks, there's stuff that
you can take from the game, and I think you
can appreciate the effort and you can appreciate things in
the game and it's like, okay, well I can actually
point to like three or four plays that if those
plays are made, maybe even less maybe two plays in
the game, you have a chance to win. Maybe you
do win. Uh, the wheels fell off this week in Seattle.
What happened?
Speaker 5: And then? Why did it look so different?
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just it just took like a
very unprepared football team. Honestly, I think there's no way
around it. And I think just kind of the the
inexperience and the newness of the staff I think showed
up in their first road trip to a hard atmosphere.
I mean, some of the players were talking about how
they weren't like ready to time to snap count. So
it seems like maybe there wasn't enough preparation there. The
pre snap stuff was back in a big way. You know,
it looked like special teams was fully unprepared. I mean,
that was that was, you know, And I'm not trying
to be like hyperbolic or anything like that. And it's
not like I don't think it's the end of the world.
I think they can learn from it and grow from
it and come back. And I think, you know, the
perspective of it being a new staff and all that stuff.
I'm not defining anything that that happens right now. You know,
I don't think it's going to be what happened in
Week three is going to be what it is at
the end of the season. But I mean, I honestly
believe that was maybe the worst start to a game
I've seen in my TI years covering the Saints. The
Lions game, I think that was last year, right, I
think that's on the list, or was that two years ago?
But those are the two games. But this this was bad.
And then at least in that Lions game, like they
fought back, this one was just an ass kicking from
start to finish. And I mean, I think there's a
lot they got to figure out and a lot they
got to learn from this, you know. I think it's
kind of a little bit of a wake up call.
Like we talked a bunch of times about how they
were taking a lot of days off during camp in
ninety minute practices and there weren't a lot of long
special teams periods like there used to be, and it's like, oh, well,
that's that's why Sean Payton did special teams for twenty
five minutes every day. And I'm sure like the players
love it, you know, on August thirteenth, when they're not
standing out there in one hundred and twenty five degree
heat for twenty five minutes watching you know, JT. Gray
cover punts and they're just standing there sweat and wasting time.
Like I'm sure it's it's an amazing atmosphere. But then
when you get into September and you lock Hunt Hunt
return for touchdown in a like a literal six minute,
like real life six minute period of time, you know,
I think I think it feels a little bit different.
So I think it was just a game that you know,
I think this is this is one where you if
you treat it like the smell insalts came out and
you kind of you know, got to reevaluate and you're
honest about it, I think it can be probably a
good thing in the early tenure of a coach, you know,
it can be you know and twenty years if he
has a successful career. You know, this might be the
thing they put in his episode of a of a
Football Life of you know, the turning point or something.
But like you got to treat it like that, you
got to let it become that. And uh, I think
that there's a lot they got to fix in a hurry.
And uh I think that you know, it's different than
last year, Like there's like mutiny feeling after like losses.
Like I think you feel the disappointment around the team
though right now where you know, up until that game,
it was kind of just you know, happy and all
that stuff. I think now people are looking around a
little bit like whoa, what the hell? Like we weren't
we weren't ready for this one. And I think they
just got to change it in our.
Speaker 6: Optically, like what so Saints fans watching every single week
and following following the team. I think everybody is smart
enough to understand the roster restrictions that we have. We
understand that there is a new coach, and I think
that everybody can be okay with the Saints not being
as good as every opponent every single week, not being
as good playing, you know, being being bad every now
and then. But I don't think what people can live
with is being undisciplined and being bad.
Speaker 4: And so that is what we saw.
Speaker 6: We're talking about eleven penalties, We're talking about special teams,
like just terrible mistakes. So they how do how do
they fix that? Is that a Kellen Moore issue? Is
it a culture issue? Is it a leadership issue?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's the exact story I wrote after
the game. So I mean we're just you know, to
two geniuses here talking about this. But I mean that's
the thing, like if you're getting smoked throwing down the
field because your cornerbacks aren't good enough, I get that,
Like I under stint if you can't block because you
have awesome Richards and porst Celly Simpkins out there, I'm
not sweating that. I'm not killing them for for you know,
giving up pressures like awesome Richards gave up I think
eight pressures in that game. Like that's that's what you expect.
Like that that isn't that isn't you know, that isn't coaching.
That's just like, hey, they aren't good enough and that
that's what happens in a rebuild, Like you you tear
it down to the studs and now all of a
sudden you're finding like the black mold that was behind
the uh, the drywall. Like that's just what it is.
Like people expect it. Everybody understands that. But yeah, it's
it's this stuff that is preventable where you know, And
and I think it's just spending more time on it, honestly,
Like I know they they've they've done a lot, They've
had officials around in that, but like this is two
out of three games, and then week one when it happened,
it was kind of like, all right, well, hey, look,
new coach will learn from it. And it felt like
he did a little bit in week two and then
you right back to it in week three. So I
think it's something with their their process, you know. Like
the thing with these practices is I used to see
in it and it was it was so like frustrating
to watch sometimes, like how often Sean Payton would stop
a play and like he would just stop at deadness tracks,
Hey you're splits off, And like sometimes you would see
people like these new receivers coming and that they wouldn't
even understand like where they were supposed to line up.
But I talked to tray Quan Smith about it at
one time in his rookie year. It's probably why he
didn't work out here. He's like, man, like I'll just
like pick up my foot and move it until Sean
tells me it's okay. Like I don't even know what
he wants me to do, but like it's like the
attention to detail was like so precise, and I think
when you're you're holding that standard every single day, every
single moment on the smallest of details, like it just
becomes a thing. And I think they've gotten away from
that the last few years. I mean, like under Pete Carmichael,
you know, the players openly talked about how they had
to like go back and like start like you know,
applying that stuff themselves because it wasn't getting applied from
the top. I think Kellen's trying to, like he has
the officials in there and that, but like I just
think that maybe there's an assumption that, like, you know,
I think he's the guy that wants to it's the
classic like hey, like players coach, He's letting people stay out.
He's treating them like men, He's trusting them to do it.
And sometimes I think that works with certain teams. And
I think when you have a team with like a
lot of young guys that are learning how to play
like I think that maybe you got to be a
little bit more of an enforcer on some of those
details and not expect them all to carry themselves like
Tomrio Davis and not expect them all to be doing
the right things all the time, like like Cam Jordan
probably is, like these are younger guys. I think you
kind of got to put a little bit of a
foot on the net right now. You know, it's sixty
six percent of the games. It's early in the season obviously,
but two out of three where you can't get lined up.
I mean, I think that's that's a big problem. And
something about the process I think they got to figure out.
And again, young staff, I think they can figure it out.
I think they will, but I think you got to
be really honest about it and and admit that something's
a little bit broken right now.
Speaker 4: Nick is, is there a vocal leader on the offense.
Speaker 2: On the offense, I would say it's probably Eric McCoy
is probably the guy that has the most cache in
that room. I don't, you know, I know Alvin will
speak up sometimes, but I just don't think that that's
necessarily his personality to be the like, you know, the
the raw ra let's go get it guy, like I
think he'll he'll coach people quietly off to the side
and like stand up and lead the room. I think
it's probably I think it's probably Eric mcguie. No, Caesar
Ruiz is doing a lot more of that with the
offensive line. Yeah, he's he's kind of like a bet
in that room, and they they the young guys bring
him up all the time. But I think I think
it's those uh. I think it's those two guys, Like
I think they're kind of the bets on the team.
Right now.
Speaker 5: I can't I can't say this.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter how many years you've played in
the league, and Nick, you know that you've been around
the NFL long enough. When you're veteran players that aren't
playing well, speak up. If all's on deaf ears, that's
the problem. That's a big problem because you're like, wait
a minute, hold up, I'm back here and I'm playing
running back and I'm you know whoever, Kendre Miller and
I saw you miss those three blocks when you reguard,
So why am I to listen to you? And you
don't even try to do it? It just organically kind
of happens and comes into your mindset.
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping on Brandon Coach too. He's another one that,
like everybody kind of points out to is like being
like an important culture guy and all that, but again
and not a guy that's making a ton of plays
right now.
Speaker 3: Somebody on that offense needs to be an asshole? Can
can Spencer? Like I want Spencer to be that, but
he's not right now. And it's like, can he be?
Because I understand where he's at.
Speaker 6: He's just got him. But you're like, you have to
earn that right, but nobody is right now. Nobody's earned
that right. Somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 2: That's a great point. Yeah, I mean Spencer definitely has
the personality to be that type of guy, but yeah,
I think he probably has to earn a little bit
more cachet in the room. Yeah, I don't. I don't
know where it would come from. It's a lot of
it's a lot of very very nice people.
Speaker 6: And sometimes a vocal leader and an offense as a coach.
Sometimes it's a hard nos offensive line coach that's the
vocal leader that's going to push everybody put the fear
of God in people. Like there always has to be somebody.
It might be a head coach, might be a quarterbacks coach,
offensive corner, it could be a player. It's got to
come from somewhere. And again, I think on the offensive
side of the ball, you've got a lot of really
good offensive minds.
Speaker 4: But it seems like, just like you said, everyone's really.
Speaker 2: Nice, Nut's definitely has that they'll put a little bit
of they'll put a little bit of fear, and you like,
he's one of those guys too. Yeah, he's one of
those guys who even like in it in a press conference,
there's sometimes someone you're like, man, I got to think
about how I asked this, because like you can bite
my head off, like he kind of has that energy.
Speaker 3: Nick, how do you go to Buffalo right now you're
a three score doll and create any positive momentum? Like
what's the messaging you just got house on the road
forty four to thirteen, you were up in the Pacific Northwest.
Now you got to go across the country to Buffalo,
New York, a good football team, and Vegas is saying
you're gonna lose by three scores.
Speaker 5: How do you create any positive momentum.
Speaker 2: It's it's really tough, and you know, I think this
is this is the danger right now, is that you
get you get drilled in Seattle. If you get drilled
up here, like I think, I think quickly, that puts
a test to just kind of where your your team's
at and where your locker room's at. And I think
it's gonna be very important. You know, they to a
to a comical degree. They they put a lot into
like harboring a and cultivating a culture with these like
field trips and all that stuff. But it you know,
that's going to be put to the test. Like maybe
that's why you did it because you maybe foresaw this,
but like that that's really going to be put to
the test. And I don't think it's gonna be enough.
You know, I think you gotta, you gotta, you gotta
look better than this, Like you can go up there
and you can get beat. But I think I think
the players got to know that they were prepared to
get beat and not sent on a dummy mission. And
I really think that's the best you can kind of
hope for this week. Miami played Buffalo tough on Thursday night.
That kind of scares me. That kind of scares me
a little bit though, like because that was probably the
wake up call for Buffalo. I don't think you catch
him sleeping again. And then they get a ten day break,
but they did. I don't know. They got a weird roster, man,
Like you look at it and there's like not a
ton of great playmakers, Like there's Josh Allen and you
know they got a good tight end. The receivers are
just average. James Cook is obviously really good, but it
isn't like a super loaded team. But like they're just
like so much better. They're just so well coached. Man,
they're so well put together, and you know that that
guy is just an absolute So I was looking at
the stats, like outside of the pocket by by three
to four yards, like if you just let him get up,
like he always wants to go to the right, weirdly enough,
he never wants to go left. But like the numbers
on those shows are just like unbelievable. It's like seventeen
yards average depth of target on him, like he's just
gonna go down the field. Like they didn't do a
good job of covering guys late in the place last week.
There was a scrambled drill on one Alante got beat
on it. Like if you're asking these guys to cover
for three and a half four and a half five seconds,
I just don't I don't know. I just don't know
if they have the talent to do it. But that
goes back to what Plum was saying before, like did
you get beat on some of those? I think you
can still hang your head, but like it's like if
you go out there and you're just shooting yourself in
the foot over and over and over, I don't know.
I think that. I think it's I think it's a
mission critical this week just for them to be cleaned
up and playing well. And you know, people talk about
Seattle being a top atmosphere. I'm sure you guys have
been the Buffalo before. Like that to me, that that's
that's the toughest atmosphere in the world. Like you're literally
seeing like townspeople setting themselves on fire in the parking
lot on the way to the stadium like literally on fire,
like this it's the biggest thing in the world, and
like that atmosphere is unbelievable. I mean, this is going
to be a very very tough game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would definitely put it in top three. Unfortunately,
Kansas City, Seattle, Buffalo probably my top three. And the
Saints are playing back to back in Seattle and Buffalo,
so that's good news.
Speaker 6: That the last week was the Saints wake up call one.
Speaker 5: All right, hmm, it's going to go along.
Speaker 3: And I apologize last question for you, Nick, so much
online of tank for this player, tank for that player,
tank for the quarterback. And my message has been this
team is not a quarterback issue right now.
Speaker 5: It is a team issue. And there's some things that.
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler I think is done that have proven that
he can be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Just
from my perspective. It's short sample size, we know that.
But it's not just a tank for player X. This
player is way farther away I think than player X.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. There there are multiple players away.
They need they need everything, man like put in Calvin
Banks aside. I am not sure that the Saints have
a player on their roster right now that you could
trade for a first round pick, and I think that's
that's a very very hard thing to do.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at the whole league, but I feel
like there's a lot of guys on other teams that
you're like, oh, yeah, I give up a first round
Like I don't know that they have that guy, and
that's a that's a tough place to be. Yeah, it's
probably not a quarterback, issued you know. I think if
you do end up with the first pick, though, like
you're evaluating, you know, against Matier, Mendoza sellers all these
guys for me, Like, give me Baine right now. That's
that's probably the guy that I would want to draft
for the Saints. But I haven't seen enough of the
quarterbacks to know. But that pass rusher man like that,
that's a desperate take. I don't think they had an
edge player get a pressure in this last game. And
that's another thing that's that's really really hard to do. Yes,
not one guy away, you know, one option hopefully like
get to end up with the number one pick, maybe
you try to. Man, it's week three of the season
already talking about this. It's crazy, but like maybe maybe
you're trying to get Cleveland to give you both of
their first to come up and get whoever who's the
number one quarterback right now? Like it's probably sellers, right, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I think that changes on a week to week base.
I think the cat from Indiana is man.
Speaker 2: He looked he looked awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Running all the r p O s like that fits
like right in the Collen's offense too, Like he looks
he looked amazing in that game. I think that offense
is really well put together too, like they look great.
Speaker 6: I think if you had the number one pick and
you go quarterback, it would be you're not. I don't
know if you're going to improve, Like I think you
gotta get as much draft capital as you can.
Speaker 5: And then hope that Mickey drafts better.
Speaker 3: Yeah well yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's depression.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 5: We love you, thank you for coming on every single Tuesday.
We appreciate.
Speaker 2: Told you we'd get the low vibes by the end
of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, task, yeah, well done, well done, all right. Nick Underhill,
New Orleans Dot.
Speaker 6: Football confirmed the Saints are guaranteed to beat the Bills
this week.
Speaker 5: Hmm mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Edge Rusher, great one hurry game.
Speaker 5: That's not good. That's not good.
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Speaker 1: When we come back off the bench, up from the
locker room to the airwaves, gets off the bench with
Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: Mm this makes me want to put a log on
the back of my shoulders and run up a mountain
snowy mountain fighter Russian. Damn right.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is a song about It sounds not,
but it makes me want.
Speaker 1: To do that. Uh.
Speaker 3: Anybody knows the lead singer of the current lead singer
of Journey.
Speaker 7: I know it was the last name, isn't it, Uh.
Speaker 3: Steve Perry for me, sir, Well, of course it's Steve Ferry.
So I don't recognize any other lead singers.
Speaker 4: I don't even if they're still band.
Speaker 3: But who Journey? Yeah, he just played at the Houston Rodeo.
Speaker 4: I believe they should have.
Speaker 3: They should have at some point in their career played
the Super Bowl halftime and they never selected them.
Speaker 5: They got the catalog to do it.
Speaker 4: They should do it this year.
Speaker 3: Oh. I mean it is from the Philippines. His name
is Arnel Pineda.
Speaker 7: I was gonna Panata was the name I was thinking of.
Speaker 6: When I think this was like real early on the
internet video days, it might have been like E Bombs
World or something like that.
Speaker 4: There was a anyone to remember that website?
Speaker 6: Anybody Jake Aisha, Okay, Uh, there was a video of
this guy singing cover band like to zero Crowd in
the Philippines and it was Arnel, Panada, and he sounded
incredible and they flew him out to America auditioned him. Yeah,
Boom got the job, played Demi in a couple of
years later.
Speaker 7: Queen still does stuff with Adam Lambert. Yeah he's really
good too, Yep. American Idol, Yeah, America.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is an incredible song.
Speaker 3: Does anybody remember the Ayisha video from Ebomb's World.
Speaker 5: I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3: I was actually like at that age, I was doing
more rocky stuff than on the internet, like lifting logs. Yeah,
I tell somewhere out of time on thirty one thirty
two in Shreeport Terry Bradshaw Passway. My dad used to
wrap a chain around my waist and my little brother
would be in a tire behind the chain, sit in
it and I have to run up and down the
Interstate hills.
Speaker 5: And I liked it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't like had to like. He gave us the option.
My older brother didn't like it.
Speaker 5: I did. I loved it. We used to go run
Independent Stadium. We used to do.
Speaker 3: You know, you had to do singles. You had to
skip a step, you had to do bunny hops. So
that's what I was doing.
Speaker 7: Did you get to do any punching in the meat
lockers like Rocky?
Speaker 3: Uh No, Now we were balling on a budget. We
didn't have any meat lockers. We didn't have all the
meat hanging around.
Speaker 4: You're saying Rocky wasn't on a pretty tight budget.
Speaker 5: Well, he was working there. I couldn't work, Wouldn'tah, that's true.
Speaker 3: He did have an advantage of meat advantage.
Speaker 7: Jake was like thirty five at this point.
Speaker 4: They had a lot more meat.
Speaker 3: Nothing makes you feel worse than when you ask someone
who covers the New Orleans Saints as well as anybody
who were some voices, who were some leaders on the
offensive side of the football, And that man said Caesar
ruiz Ye.
Speaker 4: And it's not like, as soon.
Speaker 3: As he said it, it all made sense to me.
Everything made since the picture became crystal clear. It became
four k HD whatever, that's what it was. I don't
care how long you've played in the league. It could
be fourteen years, fifteen years. If you're playing poorly and
you're trying to tell me what we should do or
shouldn't do. I'm not listening to you. I'm not even
trying to be disrespectful to you, my guy. I'm just
not listening because I remember that block you missed when
we were trying to run power. You were pulling around
and you threw a no hitter. I remember on that
zone run when you were trying to reach the three
technique and you couldn't and he hit me in the backfield.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 3: I remember when I had pass protection. My guy didn't come,
so I was going to try to get out on
an underneath route because your guy was free, I had
to block him and I didn't get in my route. Hey,
it all made sense as soon as he said it.
There has to be somebody that people listen to. And
if it happens that that somebody is not playing well
in playing like historically bad as well, like that, that
ain't it, he said McCoy. Okay, he's the eighty sixth
ranked guard out of eighty eight potential.
Speaker 4: Guard Brandon Cooks. I can see that him bringing a
little juice.
Speaker 3: But like and Brandon Cooks is the third fourth receiver
on this team, Lieman aren't gonna listen to you know, branding,
I mean.
Speaker 4: Not in the room.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but nobody's listened to something to whoever
it is. Some's got to change the ooh. And also
Nick said, not one person. Can I see anybody trading
a first round or for which you know? I first
round is a hard trade to make. But everybody you
can look for every roster, there's somebody, there's somebody. No,
it's not production too, it's a lot of eight. It's
probably all age. Considering I'm trading Eric McCoy for a
first round pick if I needed a center. I think
Ericoy is really good.
Speaker 5: So you wouldn't trade a first round pick for a center.
Speaker 4: It's a tough trade. It's a tough as I say,
I would have to like need one need.
Speaker 3: And you traded a third the fourth in the next
round probably get him. I love, I love a center
like I think it is crucial to your success. But
I'm just telling you what. You know, the high models
think of the center position. It's like a running back
kind of you need one, very important, but you're not
going to pay one or highlight one that when he
said that, not not a guy, maybe one.
Speaker 5: Maybe Calvin Banks, who you just took in the first round.
Speaker 6: No good, No, it's good, no good, right, absolutely a
lot of draft capital. And again, like we said, even
if you get the first round pick, one player at
number one overall is not going to help you. You
got to try to get as many draft.
Speaker 4: Picks as you can. You have to hit on them.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Saints fans, I'm sorry, this next statement is
not going to make you any happier or feel any better.
The guy drafting doesn't draft real well, no, and he
hardly ever trades back to get hard up. He'll keep
because you've never seen pigs trade up and then make
bad draft picks. Maybe it's just lack, he's just unlucky,
but we're cheering for him. I hope, I hope he
turned around big than Yeah, that's the other I'm trying.
Speaker 4: I'm trying really hard.
Speaker 5: You're not You're not one. You're just not.
Speaker 3: You're not one player away. You're not you're multiple, multiple
players away.
Speaker 4: I would say, like, realistically, you got to hit on
at least whatever.
Speaker 6: You gotta hit at least like four draft people in
the draft that can contribute immediately, and then you got
to hit on about eight to ten free agents that
contribute immediately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's big free agents too.
Speaker 6: Maybe not eight big ones, but like, hey, you gotta
have you gotta two big you gotta have a.
Speaker 4: Couple of big ones, so you gotta in the off season.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're talking about at least twelve instant contributors.
Speaker 3: Probably, I would say to turn and turn it around
to a respectable point. Let's see moonfish in the bayeu
Ford Chat says, literally, who is the voice in the
locker room? When to Mario and Cam are gone and
we're you know, we're asking the question on offense. Obviously,
those guys, they have the ear of the defense, and
sometimes a defensive guy can find his way into the offensive.
Speaker 5: Inner circle.
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen very often, maybe Cam, but like, yeah,
you're right, once they're gone. But well, we tell this
story often, like once Jimbo left, Like Jimbo's a big voice, obviously,
and Jimbo likes to talk, and Jimbo had the respect
of the offense. Now, when Gary Croton came in, Gary
Gary was a quiet guy.
Speaker 4: Gary didn't nicest human probably on earth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he didn't captivate a room like just at
least he didn't for me.
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for Matt. He just didn't
for me, Like he would get up there and you know,
it's basically like a let's win one for the giver,
like you know, it's let's go when it's like that
doesn't do a whole lot for it me, and you know,
coach Miles would get to go in a little bit
and it starts strong and they kind of fade off
a little bit, and so like offensively, like we didn't
really have that coach that was like Jimbo that we
were so used to and and Bo Polini took notice
of that, and somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 5: Of the season, like he picked up on it.
Speaker 3: And so like we would be watching him give his
speech to the defense and we'd all be turned around like, oh,
that's awesome. He's not talking to us, that's awesome. In
one game he kind of, like I said, he picked
up on it, and he turns around, he's like, let
me tell you one thing offense and just goes in
on all the offensive like to get us fired up,
and like smashed a whiteboard and it was incredible.
Speaker 5: It was exactly what we needed.
Speaker 3: And he picked up on that, and we like listened
to him and every word that he said he was
that juice that we needed. So sometimes it can happen.
But I still just don't know if this team has
something like that, because we're talking about college football and
pro football. It's a little bit different. But we didn't
have that voice, and bo knew that we needed something
like that and he gave it to us.
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, I don't know how it was
after we left college, but from two thousand and three
to two thousand and seven, in the ready room is
which we called it before we went out Tiger on
the Field and Tiger Stadium. It was a ready room
where they give the speeches, where all the team was.
We had chairs the four games. That was a bad
day to be a whiteboard. Every single game there was
so many whiteboards smashed and if a coach wouldn't do it,
moffittt was coming in behind it and kicking it, drop
kicking it, punching it, throwing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bad day to be a whiteboard right there in
the ready room.
Speaker 5: Get your bizard.
Speaker 4: What I don't know.
Speaker 6: If the Saints, and this is a problem, I don't
know if the Saints have broken one.
Speaker 3: Whiteboard this year. It's true.
Speaker 4: You better start breaking some whiteboards, so.
Speaker 5: We'll hope I'll fix it, all right, I don't think
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Speaker 3: And nothing cans.
Speaker 5: I've seen the Tomas six.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, Yeah, otb here on this Tuesday morning.
Try to bring the Tuesday vibe back that we had
before we started talking about Caesar Luiz and the New
Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: L Sizar.
Speaker 3: All right, LSU and ole Miss this weekend, ole Miss
seventy three point three percent chance according to the ESPN
Matchup Predictor.
Speaker 4: How about that, boys, what you can bring the vibes up?
Speaker 5: No? Well, yeah, I mean I think it's nothing's unreliable.
Speaker 3: Say we got twenty seven percent chance of winning?
Speaker 5: Neither vibes right, because I don't agree they have.
Speaker 7: That ESPN Matchup Indicator has Vanderbilt with a fifty four
percent champs of beating LSU, which I also don't agree with.
Speaker 3: It's pretty inaccurate.
Speaker 5: They are not the FBI. I think it's the Earth,
the S and P plus.
Speaker 3: Either way, ESPN like it doesn't favor LSU this year,
so it's no real surprise. That number still is shocking
to me. Ole Miss right now is a small one
and a half point favorite. It did open up in
favor of LSU minus one and a half. It has
gone to the ReBs minus one and a half. The
total on this game which Lane Kiffen did tell you
to take the over, it was fifty.
Speaker 5: Five and a half.
Speaker 4: Sure, why did you do that?
Speaker 5: Because his daughter is apparently dating what weeks.
Speaker 3: Who's going to play quarterback for the old miss Land Sharks.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be Simmons.
Speaker 6: So we got Austin Simmons, we got Trinidad Chambliss. Yeah.
I did see an article that came out yesterday Jambliss
that Lane Kiffen made the quote at one hundred percent,
Austin Simmons is our starting quarter now.
Speaker 3: He didn't say that he is one hundred percent. But
that's why I think Turniette has played better. He's nearly
almost seventy percent completion, seven hundred nineteen four touchdown, He's
got a bunch of rushing yards. That's why I think
it's going to be him, because I think the last
thing that you want right now is a quarterback with
a bum ankle against this LSU defense attacking, putting pressure
on you, making you get outside the pocket, have to
throw on the run. So this isn't even an indictment
on Simmons and who's going to be the starter for
that team moving forward. I just don't think right now
that you can have a quarterback with any kind of
ankle issue going against this LSU defense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and what a change of pace that Blake Baker
has to think about on how he's going to game
plan because you're either going to God that's got a
you know, one flat tire, or you're going a guy
against that can run a little bit and do some
things outside the pocket. So the game plan is different
like that. I mean, obviously we're playing a lot lot
of mobile quarterbacks that can create outside the pocket and
create different issues and matchup issues with their legs. But
it's a lot different game plan than if it's somebody
that I can't do that. I mean, we know what
we can do with Harold Perkins with spying the quarterback
and being kind of that rover that gets out there.
I didn't call it a star that kind of star
mindset out there that can attack the quarterback. It's just
a different game plan that you put together. So a
little bit of a challenge there for Blake Baker to me,
and I wouldn't assume that Lane's going to give them
any indication until the last possible second on who that
quarterback is going to be.
Speaker 5: I don't know that the game plan changes too much.
Speaker 3: I totally understand what I'm saying, like as far as
like the initial just because I feel like LSU's identity
is like know thyself, sure, but but like and within
the the in game adjustments and the in game stuff
that certainly will right, it's it's it's basically maybe it's
not like the adjustment on the X as a no's
it's the mindset of what you're telling your guys to do.
Like in against Clemson, Harold Perkins would have the curl
flat yeah, right, or he'd be a post defender, right,
And you could tell he had the green light as
soon as he even thought club Nick was getting out
of the pocket to abandon his defensive assignment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, abandon his own to attack the quarterback. It's a
different mindset. It's a different teaching that you give depending
on the quarterback. Right, if you're not threatened by his legs,
you tell Hale Perkins to stay back in your zone.
Speaker 4: Yep. Okay, just could not figure it out.
Speaker 5: Oops, I think Trinidad starts.
Speaker 3: Yeah they should.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the quote yesterday was like at one hundred percent,
Austin Simmons is our starter even though Trinidad has played.
Speaker 3: I think if you LSU you want a quarterback with
a bomb ankle, then I mean with how you've gotten
after the quarterback. So yeah, something certainly to pay attention to,
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