1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,319 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Bobby Brown and welcome to another fucking podcast. 2 00:00:03,399 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Ziema, 3 00:00:07,639 --> 00:00:10,039 hula hoops and pac Man video games. 4 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Don't you see? 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: People today have attention spans that can only be measured 6 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:20,839 in namo seconds. The old legends they just wait like 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,879 legend and an adawook from. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:41,039 Speaker 1: With a lot of like Hello Las Vegas, Hello world, Hello, 9 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:42,560 my loyal minions. It is good to see you what 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,280 it's always good to be seeing. I'm Mizzy Presley. I'm 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,399 the host of the program. It is another refering podcast 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,000 with me. Is he Presley? Mike Dawson is not here. 13 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,560 We are both currently on a boat. We are in 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 the Caribbean with the cruise to the edge, just having 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,159 a good time out there. Dawson will be back next week. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,640 I'm sure we'll be recording a podcast on the belt 17 00:01:01,679 --> 00:01:05,079 this week. Until then, set up for the Patreon. Look, 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,719 if you're on the Patreon for five dollars a month, 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,719 you're seeing this before we get on the boat. Ad free. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,439 It's that fucking simple. I mean whatever, you know, you're 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,480 hearing this ad free the day today, Friday the twenty seventh, 22 00:01:20,519 --> 00:01:24,280 of February. It's all there for you. But no, you 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,920 can wait. You can hear the ads, you can deal 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,400 with it, you can wait till later. It's up to you. 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,799 It's all good. So itway is what it is. So 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,719 we're on the Mosters of Rock Cruise. We'll be back 27 00:01:31,719 --> 00:01:35,079 at Pete. You're gonna love these, Okay. We have two 28 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:40,359 interviews coming up, two authors. The first one, you know, 29 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:42,439 we'll save that one for second because I know you're 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:49,680 gonna love these. Oh Night twenty one and Rush in 31 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,400 twenty one, twelve fifty years. It is a color hardcover book. 32 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: It is cool. 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,079 Speaker 1: Somebody that's not even a Rush fan, this is pretty 34 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:02,159 fucking cool. Sweet, and this book that is out now, 35 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:06,159 Kiss nineteen seventy. 36 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:11,479 Speaker 3: Six, Cooper, come look at that. Okay, Kiss nineteen seventy six, 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,479 that's not out yet. 38 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: This is out. 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: You can get this. 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: You can get this now. So both of those authors 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,400 will be on. And actually, the Kiss one's really cool 42 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,919 because they go by every month from nineteen seventy six 43 00:02:26,479 --> 00:02:28,759 and they tell you exactly what Kiss is doing and 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 what else is going on in entertainment in the world. 45 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:37,560 So it's pretty fucking cool. Joining me hold on I 46 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:39,800 was hammering beers during the first interview and I just 47 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:43,800 took a nap, So it's coffee time, ladies and gentlemen. 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,479 Joining me right now is an old friend, the man 49 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:50,439 that I created at a tribute to Ace Frehley with 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,400 in twenty thirteen, in March, I Believe March of twenty thirteen, 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Keller Bar. He played with Pentagram for many years. He's 52 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:00,680 been on the show before. He was on one of 53 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,840 the summits in beautiful Downtown Burbank and his current project, 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,960 which we're gonna get into right away, is called Ax 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,919 Dragger featuring Pete Pete Minnesota, Pete Campbell. Why don't you 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,840 tell us who's in Axe Dragger? 57 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Who is in ax Dragger? 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,199 Speaker 2: Well, Ax Draggers myself on drums, my man Bob Bulch 59 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:30,560 from Fu Manchu on guitar, my other buddy from Sweden, 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,639 Frederick Aikinson. He was in basically everything that's cool that's 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,159 ever came out of Sweden in the metal world. Currently 62 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:42,800 he's in Dark Funeral and like a sub sub project 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,240 of Candle Mass. Well, he was in Grave and he 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,000 was in all kinds of shit, so he's amazing. And 65 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,319 then vocals as my man Terry Glades, the original singer 66 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,199 from Pantera, and Lord Tracy that guay man, he's fine 67 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,199 wine that dude is. 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,879 Speaker 3: I'll tell you. 69 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:02,479 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. How did, I mean, how did 70 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:06,400 you get involved with this? Who? Whose idea was this project? 71 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:08,080 Who reached out to? 72 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:08,479 Speaker 2: Who? 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Who got the wheels rolling? 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,199 Speaker 3: Uh? Man? 75 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:15,199 Speaker 2: Well, me and Bob are talking forever to like this 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,600 jam maybe was like the thing. But then, uh, right 77 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:24,680 before I left Pentagram, we needed a guitar player for this, 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,079 the new record, so we keep talking. 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: We were asking. 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,079 Speaker 2: People to come or whatever. So I got ahold of 81 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Bob and said, hey, man, you want to help like 82 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:38,560 write this record, and he said, yeah, that'd be cool. 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,000 So he kept sending me riffs, uh Pentagram wise, and 84 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,319 then I'm quitting, so I was like fuck that, you know. 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,240 So then and him just kept kept throwing riffs to 86 00:04:50,319 --> 00:04:52,680 each other, and then he's like, we should do these 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,839 RIfS are too cool to like not do anything, and 88 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:57,519 he's like, well, put some drums on them. So I 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,120 put drums on a couple and he's like, kept, this 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,120 is pretty rat. So then he kept sending songs and 91 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,040 then I would do that. Then we found Frederick, and 92 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:08,399 then we ended up like sending some of the tunes 93 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,160 to just random cool singer guys. I actually asked your 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,720 boy Phil Lewis if he would be interested, and he. 95 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: Says, he just not my thing, you know. But we 96 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:20,720 had all constitutions. 97 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: And then then Bob said, hey, what what do you 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,120 think about Terry Glaze? 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,399 Speaker 3: And I had to like kick in my brain. 100 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,319 Speaker 2: Like Terry Glaze and like like black Magic Panther, Power Metal, Pantera. 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I go, do you know him? 102 00:05:33,199 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: He's like no, When I'm friends with them on Instagram, 103 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,240 I'll send him message yep. 104 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: So we none of us have ever met. 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and so yeah, he sends me a 106 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,079 message back, he's like he's in. 107 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: He wants a song. It's like, oh shit. 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,439 Speaker 2: So then we sent him what we had for the 109 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,600 first single that came out, and we're like, man, this rule. 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,600 So then we asked him again, Hey, you want to 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 do another one. He's like yeah, so we sign another one. 112 00:05:58,199 --> 00:05:59,680 Then it finally got down, hey you want to do 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,000 a record and he's like absolutely, So okay, we're in. 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: We're done. So that's how that kind of happened. It 115 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:07,839 was more like at you know. 116 00:06:07,959 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Just me and Bob throwing riffs for a for a 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,399 pentagram basically m h and I just said. 118 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: That ship and I split. So then that's how this became. 119 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: And it started as just a little project, but so 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,759 I think it's it's a full blown band at this point. 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:28,519 Speaker 1: Did you I mean, when when you brought Terry in, Terry, 122 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,480 did I say, Terry, what's the singers? That fucking Terry? 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: Terry? 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? What what did you expect? 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 3: I mean? 126 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Was there was there? Lyrics? Was there? There was it? 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,519 Speaker 3: He had? Ye. 128 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: All we had was just like working song titles m 129 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:48,680 hm and that, and he actually used those and then 130 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,160 he just did everything himself, you know, like we had 131 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,519 no lyrics, no that we kind of just. 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,519 Speaker 3: Gave him car blanche, you know, like go do whatever 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,279 the fuck you want. Yeah, I was. 134 00:06:56,399 --> 00:07:00,319 Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting what he sent back, you know, like 135 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,120 it was instantly like goose bumpy Ship. I'm like, man, 136 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,959 we're on something here, you know, like this is brad. 137 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 But it worked because we were going for that kind 138 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,720 of old school metal. 139 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,439 Speaker 3: Thing, right. He just killed it. So yeah, he did 140 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:15,399 all the ladies and all that shit himself. 141 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: He just so you you had no melodies in your head, 142 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,319 you had nothing. You just said, just take it, let's go. 143 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: I'd hear the like I would literally wait to get 144 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,680 an email from Bob with the song with a drummers, 145 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:31,639 so I didn't even know any of the song. I 146 00:07:31,639 --> 00:07:34,079 would just play to the rips he sent you know 147 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:36,879 that time. So we never like wrote a song together, 148 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,199 which is fucking wild. 149 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:43,639 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, how long did it take for the whole 150 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,279 thing to actually come together? From from the start of saying, okay, funk, 151 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:51,600 I'm out of Pentagram, let's do this, let's do a song, 152 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:54,000 and all the way up until now where you have 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,040 an album coming out this week? Yeah, yeah, this Thursday. 154 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:00,959 This Thursday, so it'll be yesterday by the time the 155 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:06,759 non Patreon people are hearing. Yeah, so it's out now, 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,519 it comes out on. 157 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I would talk about maybe a year and a half, okay, yeah, 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:14,839 so about every other. 159 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: Month we'd get a new song. 160 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:17,959 Speaker 2: But then you know, you'd send it to me and 161 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,439 then I would do the drums, and then we send 162 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:22,920 it to Sweden and then Frederick would do the bass 163 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,480 and they mix it a little bit and then go 164 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:27,360 to Terry Terror do the vocals. Then it would come 165 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:29,480 back and then we're like, yeah, that's it, and almost 166 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:33,159 everything was It's like one take ship, you know, which. 167 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,799 Speaker 3: Was just so cool. 168 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's always great. But did you guys 169 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,960 shop it around it all? I mean, is this out? 170 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 You guys put this out on your own? How do 171 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:43,279 ar was it coming out? 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,039 Speaker 3: It's coming out on Ripple Music. 173 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:49,159 Speaker 2: Okay, the Ripples like an underground label, but they do 174 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,720 all kinds of stuff with some super cool stuff. They 175 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,600 just put out the Obsessed Record and like stuff like that, 176 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:56,639 so we were kind of looking for it. That was 177 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:58,919 our first thing, Bob, So what do you think about Rippler? 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,759 I've always wanted to Ripple Record personally, I have like 179 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:02,919 everything they've ever done. 180 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, we don't even need the shop. 181 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: But and Todd uh Severn and the owner of Ripples 182 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:11,240 just a killer dude. So it just it just made sense, 183 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,879 So like, why go anywhere when this is what we want? 184 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:14,919 Speaker 1: Right? 185 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,279 Speaker 3: Right kind of fell into place and it's fucking perfectly. 186 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: How tough is it for people that don't know and 187 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:26,080 I don't know, I mean the shopping stuff, dealing with records, 188 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,480 dealing with record labels, finding the right deal. Yeah, because 189 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:33,559 you know, it's not like the old days. It's those 190 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:36,320 days are long gone, but record labels still I mean, 191 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,440 if you get you don't if you're not careful, you 192 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,480 can still get fucked. 193 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, absolutely no, it's it's a pain in the ass. Luckily, 194 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:48,240 it was so easy for this, you know, simple where 195 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:50,559 you know, everything we kind of asked for we got, 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:50,960 you know. 197 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,919 Speaker 3: And we're not trying to make money. You're right, you 198 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,320 don't make money, you know. 199 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, there's. 200 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,879 Speaker 2: Everything we wanted with the artwork and and the different 201 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:04,399 colored vinyls and and ship like that, and then plus 202 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,200 you know, they popped in some money for and I 203 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:09,440 people are gonna hate me because I have brain farting 204 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,279 on these dudes' names. But the guy who mixed it 205 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,639 mixed like super Unknown from song Garden and then like 206 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:17,840 and some other stuff. 207 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: And the dude who. 208 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Mastered it did like Metallica, and so we wanted to 209 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:25,440 like get as many names as we could to make 210 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,200 it a cool thing. 211 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: And that was because those dudes are cheap. You know. 212 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: It all worked out was like that's all we want. Like, so, yeah, 213 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,799 I'm extremely happy with it. 214 00:10:36,039 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it is so you're getting like multiple colored vinyls. 215 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,799 I mean, is there a point is too much? 216 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: You know, I used to think the same thing. I 217 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,080 was like, man, this is dumb. It's it's the same ship. 218 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,159 But having records out that there is literally four different 219 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,120 variants or whatever, like, the collectors go nuts for that ship, 220 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:58,799 you know, the purple. 221 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,399 Speaker 3: Blue and red one. 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,399 Speaker 2: There's only one hundred ever, you know, so they have 223 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,879 to put you know, like and I think half of 224 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:04,480 them already. 225 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,399 Speaker 3: The pre sale is already out for half of the ship. Really, 226 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,720 and I mean it just. 227 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,519 Speaker 1: Right, dude, that's fucking wild. 228 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's gonna be nuts. 229 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:14,799 Speaker 4: Man. 230 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,919 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. 231 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,519 Speaker 2: Like it's one of those things where are right when 232 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,200 you think you're out, they'll pull you right back in. 233 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 234 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: Right. 235 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys talked about I mean, you've 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,639 never you've never been in the same room. 237 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: We've never played one together. 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,279 Speaker 1: You've all four of you have never actually physically been 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,840 in the same room, which is wild. 240 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,919 Speaker 2: I've never met Terry. I met Bob and Frederick. Bob's 241 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:41,399 never met Frederick, but met Terry. Frederick's never met Bob 242 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,480 or Terry. You know, so we've never we've never done 243 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:46,879 the ship. Well, there's some talks right now, for like 244 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:52,159 in September doing a couple a little quick run oh nice, yeah, 245 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,039 in the States, and then a bunch of europe stuff 246 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,519 next year. 247 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: So there's already, I mean, is there management? Is that 248 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:01,159 you guys doing this all on your own? How what's 249 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,600 going on? 250 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like PR stuff already and stuff and agents, 251 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,159 booking agents have already reached out. 252 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,919 Speaker 3: I mean because on paper it's cool, you know. So, 253 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,039 I mean I see that people. 254 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,639 Speaker 2: We're gonna both fucking heads off, you know, So it's 255 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,039 rolling already. 256 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:21,799 Speaker 1: Was there any thought in your head? And you know, 257 00:12:21,879 --> 00:12:26,240 obviously music fans they they have these thoughts about what 258 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:29,639 the original singer from Pantera and all the old guys, 259 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,919 I mean, what is is this real? Is this? I 260 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,639 mean is this? Is this a real thing? Is it 261 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,480 just gonna be one record? Is it just fun? 262 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:36,799 Speaker 3: I mean? 263 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,519 Speaker 1: Is there any of those thoughts in your head about 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,879 what people may think about ship like that? 265 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,519 Speaker 2: Well that I did at first, I was like, okay, 266 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,960 like what people are gonna say? But then when the 267 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,159 when the first single came out, it came out like 268 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,240 and I hate fucking hate the term supergroup. 269 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's dumb, but that's all. It says, 270 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,559 super mental supergroup, you know, blah blah blah. 271 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, then like every single has been just 272 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,200 crazy response in the in the best way possible, you know. 273 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: So I think there. 274 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,919 Speaker 2: I think when people see the names, they're like, Wow, 275 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,159 what the fuck could this be? You know, because like 276 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,759 lead Bob from fu Man Chew, he's this desert rock 277 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:19,720 stoner rock dude, you know, Frederick plays the Swedish black 278 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,440 metal you know whatever. And it's like, but holy fuck, really, 279 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,559 you know, that's the response I've been seeing, and really 280 00:13:27,399 --> 00:13:28,440 it's super rad. 281 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:29,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, speaking of the black metal guys, if 283 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:36,600 you are a fan of the meta, I'm sure if 284 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,759 you're listening to the podcast you are, especially this particular one, 285 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:41,360 make sure you get out to Vegas here and check 286 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,559 out the Metal Blade Records Museum. It is very badass. 287 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,679 And I hit up metal Blade dot com slash museum 288 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,960 and I only give that pimp because one it's awesome 289 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,080 and two I work there every once in a. 290 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: While, So there you go. 291 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,039 Speaker 1: You gotta throw it out, but you gotta throw it 292 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:58,519 out when it's reasonable and relevant, you know what. I'm saying, 293 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,759 you know, you know, if I have if I have 294 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:04,080 a porn star on, you know, talking about titties and 295 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,080 getting pump jacked. Maybe not the metal blade. Uh, let's 296 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,080 drop that one in there. But yeah, we're talking to Minnesota, 297 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,480 Pete Campbell. You were talking about ACTRAC. Let's drop the 298 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,159 metal blade in there, you know exactly. 299 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,799 Speaker 3: No, that's cool, but I think people who absolutely love that. 300 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,159 Speaker 1: No, you said that. We were talking last week, and 301 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,200 when we did our act show, by the. 302 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: Way, I want to tell you again, we kicked ass. 303 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. Thank you so good. I mean, 304 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,320 froze our ass off and rehearsal and YadA, YadA, YadA. 305 00:14:32,919 --> 00:14:37,960 So you've there's been some press for this. Yeah, did 306 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,080 you did you see some little like Rolling Stone They had. 307 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: A little blurp on their website and like Revolver and 308 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 you know rock Feed and all that ship Europe. It's crazy. 309 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:50,799 So I think that's where we're really hit first. Yeah, 310 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:52,399 it's like, I don't know why I think that's going 311 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,679 to be our audience. 312 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:55,759 Speaker 3: There. 313 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, yes they do, yes, they do be. 314 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,799 Speaker 2: The thing, but crazy like get that seeing all that ship, Wow, man, 315 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:04,399 Like that's cool. 316 00:15:04,799 --> 00:15:05,639 Speaker 3: Like some bucket list. 317 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: Ship, you know, if you've been doing it for twenty 318 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:10,919 seven years and you know, finally done, you finally get it, you. 319 00:15:10,879 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Know, right right, Pee, who's your first national gig? 320 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,399 Speaker 3: That was sixty watch Shawman on Maryland. 321 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:23,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Ship, how do you? How do you land that 322 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,480 being Minnesota Pete Campbell? 323 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: But that's how I got the name Minnesota Pete campbells Okay, 324 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,559 Well that makes sense, yep. That that was they were 325 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,519 opening up for Clutch, And we'd always every time Clutch 326 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:40,600 came through town. Excuse me, we'd always go early to 327 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:43,039 see all the opening bands, you know, because I mean 328 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,320 that's how I found Fu Manchu was opening for Clutch. 329 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:46,759 Speaker 3: I could even get about. 330 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Is that at First Avenue? 331 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 3: Sure was sure? 332 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: I think I think I might have been at that show. 333 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,919 Speaker 3: Actually today. 334 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,759 Speaker 2: In search of their record turn thirty years old, and 335 00:15:59,799 --> 00:16:01,679 they were on tour for that record, so that tells 336 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,120 you it was thirty fucking years ago. So anyway, sixty played, 337 00:16:06,759 --> 00:16:10,600 it was clutching coc and then sixty and I just 338 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:14,919 loved him. And back then they had at their merch table. 339 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,200 This was before emails and all that shit. They had 340 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,759 a mailing list that you could like you had to 341 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:20,960 write your name and shit. 342 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,519 Speaker 1: Ye yep. 343 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,919 Speaker 2: Then they'd send you like a thing or whatever. And 344 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,480 he said they're looking for a drummer and that's me 345 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,000 and my brother. 346 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, do it. 347 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:32,799 Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, they're all the way in Maryland. 348 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,360 I'm like, what the hell? So one night I just called. 349 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:38,399 It was Dan the singer, so yeah, I like to play. 350 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,279 We talked for two hours. It's like, all right, dude, 351 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,120 can you be here like tomorrow. 352 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: Or the next day. I was like no, I'm like 353 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:47,399 I'm in Minnesota. And he's like, oh shit. He's like, 354 00:16:47,399 --> 00:16:48,720 why did I fly you down here? 355 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: They went Really, He's like, well, your attitude is great 356 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,320 and I'd love to hear you play. 357 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: It's like cool. 358 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:56,279 Speaker 2: Say I went down there for like three days and 359 00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:59,080 rehearsed and then he said, you know, they said you 360 00:16:59,159 --> 00:16:59,639 want the gig. 361 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: I'm like yeah. 362 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:02,679 Speaker 2: So I flew back home and told my parents like 363 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:05,400 I'm moving man, like I'm out of here. So that 364 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,680 till that started, and that back then, I mean, we 365 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,200 had we had a our light label, Spitfire Records from 366 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:13,799 so we did like black label Society. 367 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,519 Speaker 3: That was my first tour o wow yeh yeh. 368 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: And then we did like a bunch of clutch stuff 369 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,839 uh coc and. 370 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: All kinds of ship man. It was crazy. Ray Momstein 371 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:27,400 we did like five shows with him which was nuts like. 372 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: And ironically Zach Wilde and Black Label Saiety. It would 373 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,000 be headlining the Monsters of Rock Crews next month. Cabin 374 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:37,799 still available, very few so if you want to get 375 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:39,920 on I think you can still get on Monsters Rock 376 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,839 Crews dot com and then you know, enjoy my karaoke 377 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,680 show DJ Beef Bryan Not and came out and rock 378 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,799 out and have a good time. So so where do 379 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:53,599 you go from there? How how long are you with them? 380 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,839 And then where do you go from there? I'm pete, 381 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:57,200 I'm curious because we've I've. 382 00:17:57,279 --> 00:18:02,799 Speaker 2: Never done this yeah yeah, oh for shit seven eight years. 383 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:11,039 And then I actually met Victor Griffin, guitar player Pentagram. 384 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:17,359 We uh because when I actually during sixty Watt, I 385 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,160 started another band called the Mighty Nimbus and that me 386 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:23,839 and Dan from sixty Watch Shaman, so it was like 387 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,359 a side project. And then we had Eric Larson from 388 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,160 Alabama thunder Pussy and right now he's in a veil 389 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,160 like he was on guitar. So we kind of we 390 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,279 did a tour and we ended up playing a couple 391 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,599 of shows with Places of Skulls and that's Victor Friends band. 392 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,160 So I met him and we kind of just hooked 393 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,519 at like we're friends instantly. 394 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: And then Place of Skulls needed a. 395 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,039 Speaker 2: Drummer for a European tour and he called me and 396 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:50,279 asked me if I would be interested. 397 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,279 Speaker 3: I said yeah. 398 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: So then I was in Place of Skulls for ten 399 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,480 fucking years after that, just like off and on and 400 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,200 then yeah yeah. Then he called me and asked me 401 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,279 if I would do the paragram thing. I was like, oh, sure, 402 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:06,359 you know, so that's how it all just started. It's like, 403 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:07,920 you know, that is not what you know? 404 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:11,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah no, but Peter, and this is you know, 405 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,680 this is like the this is this is honest truth. 406 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,880 My first memory of you, which and I'm a drinker, 407 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,160 so I forget a lot of ship, but I think 408 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,640 my first memory of you was at No, it was 409 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:32,000 before that because I had no it was my my 410 00:19:32,079 --> 00:19:34,240 graduate How did I can't remember how the funk were? 411 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:38,079 I know we did we meet because Nick, because I 412 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,759 had the I had my graduation party when I was 413 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:41,880 still working at the Press. 414 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:44,559 Speaker 3: I knew you when you were at the Press as 415 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,160 the bartender, Yeah. 416 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: Because you brought you supplied the drums for that show. 417 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,640 I just I don't remember. Did I meet you through 418 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,680 the press. 419 00:19:55,319 --> 00:20:00,079 Speaker 3: That the press or my brother, yeah, or what it 420 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,480 was with guys or something? 421 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly maybe, I don't fucking know. Honestly, I don't know. 422 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:12,720 It's just Pete. He's always been around, right, you know, 423 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:15,640 because I had this thought in my head that, well, 424 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,319 just fuck, did I meet him at the Benton County 425 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Fair when I was with one oh one with that 426 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,240 that Battle of the bands? 427 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? That my band Buzzard won that. 428 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,319 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's right. That's why I remember you from there. 429 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,599 I do. I just, I just I don't know. 430 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,759 Speaker 2: I don't know me Jean and and Travis Colgrove. Yeah, 431 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,119 we're at and we won that Battle of the bands. 432 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,160 So that was twenty fucking plus years ago. 433 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:47,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was twenty twelve, something like eleven, Yeah, because 434 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:48,839 it was right, it was after I got back from 435 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,960 from my four months Stanton Florida. It's just weird. 436 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:55,319 Speaker 3: It's weird. 437 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: So did did you when you God asked to join Pentagram. 438 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:05,799 Were you familiar, I mean, because obviously you love the metal, 439 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:08,759 but did you how the lord did you know the music? 440 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: Well kind of sort of only from working with Victor 441 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,519 for for so long before that. Yeah, but in sixty one, 442 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:17,240 I mean, I mean, this is the Maryland d C 443 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200 doom metal thing, you know. And when I was in 444 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,880 sixty one, it was the Pentagram was That's all it was, 445 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,680 you know, Pentagram, the obsessed, like and I didn't know 446 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:28,720 anything about Pentagram, you know, And. 447 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,559 Speaker 3: Then I heard him for the first time, going this 448 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:31,559 is just black, said. 449 00:21:31,559 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: This is dumb, you know, Like, but then once I 450 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,799 got met Victor and me and him started jamming together, 451 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:41,720 that obviously plays the Skulls plays a couple of Pentagram songs, 452 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,039 you know, because he wrote those tunes. 453 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,759 Speaker 3: And I started getting into it, and I was like, yeah, 454 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:47,480 this is pretty cool. 455 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,079 Speaker 2: But I think it's subconsciously got into it because I 456 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,559 love Victor, you. 457 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:52,799 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So it was like, Wow, I love 458 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,759 this guy. He wrote this song to the band's gotta 459 00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:55,119 be cool. 460 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:57,599 Speaker 2: But then once I joined the band that it then 461 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,200 I started to appreciate it more. 462 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,759 Speaker 3: Just the player into it, you know what I mean. 463 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,799 Speaker 2: And it's it's for drumming, it's it's tough shit, you know, 464 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,359 just could I try to play it as perfect as 465 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,000 the guy who did it before me, but still add 466 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,880 a little something to it. 467 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, make it your own, but still not naked your 468 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,079 own exactly. 469 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: And Jeff o'keef, the original drummer from the seventies, it's 470 00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:25,160 some of that dude's licks are just insane, like in theever, 471 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,279 So I tried to do that. I remember playing a 472 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,000 show with him sitting right up front, and I was 473 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,359 so fucking nervous because we were probably we're doing a 474 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,799 whole seventies set, so all every song he played it 475 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:38,960 was his babies, and I played it. 476 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,039 Speaker 3: He gave me a big ass hug afterwards, and he's like, dude, nice. 477 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,400 I'm like, well, thank you. 478 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: Did you hear that what I did? And you know, 479 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:49,599 and star ladies like, yeah, he nailed it. He's like that, 480 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,519 but that was my lick. I was like, yeah, but 481 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:52,880 now it's mine, motherfucker. 482 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,799 Speaker 1: How long were you How long were you with Pentagram? 483 00:22:57,839 --> 00:22:58,839 Speaker 3: Eleven years? 484 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:00,079 Speaker 1: Okay? 485 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,079 Speaker 3: And no, I mean so what is that? Yeah? 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: My math was twenty eleven. Excuse me, no, fourteen fourteen 487 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:11,240 got my. 488 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,079 Speaker 1: Brother h and you left. I mean pretty much the 489 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,519 whole band left right for a. 490 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,799 Speaker 2: Minute, yep, But then he hired scabs and now they're 491 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:20,400 doing whatever. 492 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what was it? Just time? I mean, 493 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:25,079 was it. 494 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: Dealing with all the bullshit and the stress at the 495 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,240 same time. 496 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,039 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see this little thing 497 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:37,440 over here, yeah, the little Yeah. I left because I 498 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,839 wanted to just be a dad. 499 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I dreaded leaving because at the time, she was, 500 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:47,799 you know, two or three years old, and like every time, 501 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:49,960 and we were touring non stop, and it was just 502 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,680 like I was basically doing it for the money at 503 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,160 that point, and that's like just time. But I just 504 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:58,920 I couldn't leave her anymore because I'm a firm believer 505 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:02,119 that like rock and roll of beer forever obviously it 506 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:04,920 still is. But being a dad to a toddler that 507 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,599 won't that's time you can never get back, you know, absolutely. 508 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: You know. 509 00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: I retired from touring and and that's I just told 510 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480 the boys. I'm like, I just can't do this anymore. Man, Like, 511 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,039 I just I'd rather be a dad than than to 512 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,680 be a dad to a fucking seventy some year old man, 513 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,160 you know, you know what I mean. 514 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: So I'm like, yeah, yeah, so that's why. 515 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: And then when I split the Greg quit, you know, 516 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,559 because I'm not pities now here, I'm not doing blah 517 00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,359 blah blah. Yeah left, So it was just like it 518 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,000 was just time, you know, everybody just kind of had enough. 519 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: So this is what it is. I wish that is 520 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:40,720 where it is. 521 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: But I mean, you'll still go on small runs. It's 522 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,720 you're just still on touring for a living. 523 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: Now, you know. 524 00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: Now she's seven, Yeah she's a rocker, and then she 525 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,680 gets it, you know, but we were out two and 526 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,920 a half three weeks at a time, you know, you know, 527 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:56,839 and so I just I can't do that. I'll do 528 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,759 a week or something, you know, something like that, because 529 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,680 she's old enough and understands. 530 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: That right right time. 531 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: It was just terrible, like I dreaded it, like just 532 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,559 you know, so that's why. 533 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: Well, but you know, it's good to know that. Like 534 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,039 if if an act run comes up by accident that 535 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:15,839 pds there. 536 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there there will be talks, my friend. 537 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see if the fingers across that we 538 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:26,039 get something worked out. That would be that would be 539 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:29,359 a bad ass do you remember your your kiss moment? 540 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,480 What got you into. 541 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: Kiss my kiss moment? YEP. 542 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: I remember opening up my brother Nick's bedroom door because 543 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,119 he was across the street doing BMX stuff. 544 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: And I opened the door and I see. 545 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: He had this big ass poster Geene Simmons, the one 546 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,920 where he's playing bass and he's got blood all over, 547 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,759 like yeah, like the dressed to. 548 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: Kill costume, like whatever it was. I just looked at 549 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,759 it with what are you? Like, what is that? 550 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:02,839 Speaker 2: And then then I looked over and then there was 551 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,839 more kiss and more kiss, and then we went to 552 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,559 my aunt's house and I picked up Destroyer. She she 553 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,359 had Destroyer, and I remember looking at it and just going, 554 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,599 this is that guy from Nick's room, Like what is this? 555 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,400 Like I didn't even know it was music, right, I 556 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240 thought they were like comic book dudes, you know. And 557 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,160 then hearing it for the first time like got a 558 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,519 thunder like all that, it was like that was my like, oh, 559 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,359 I want to do this now for the rest of 560 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,279 my life, like I. 561 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 3: Want to beat this, you know. So that was it. 562 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:33,839 My brother Nick was the guy. Just his room was 563 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,880 all kiss. 564 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: Pete. You know, Nick might still be out on that 565 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:42,039 BMX track. He just didn't just want to still be 566 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:42,440 out there. 567 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: But now your eyes, she's all in the kiss. I mean, 568 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,640 it's so cool. 569 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,559 Speaker 2: Like today we went the goat to the records or 570 00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:53,880 the label or whatever. Radio station here had a little 571 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,480 pop up record thing at Beaver Island Brewering today. 572 00:26:57,599 --> 00:26:59,799 Speaker 3: Oh cool, just so we popped in. 573 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:02,839 Speaker 2: And because she wants rock and roll over. You know, 574 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,039 it's like seven year old daughter, don't you want to 575 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,480 go find rock and roll over? So we went no 576 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:08,759 dice couldn't find it, So. 577 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,079 Speaker 1: Don't don't tell her. There's a there's a misprint with 578 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,160 a tear drop on Paul Stanley's space that I have. 579 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: Uh you have that one? 580 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: That one along with the non makeup Creatures of the Night. 581 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got that a cassette. 582 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Nice yea. All right, you're okay. So you're a drummer, 583 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Peter Chris, Eric Carr, Eric Singer. 584 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,559 Speaker 2: Well, actually it's funny because me and I mean the 585 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:35,880 little one here had this conversation too. 586 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: They're all different and they all brought different things to 587 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,640 the band. 588 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:46,759 Speaker 2: I personally enjoy our car, but if it wasn't for 589 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,920 Peter Chris, I would not be a drummer, right, singer 590 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,880 smokes them all and everything technically wise, and you know, 591 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,839 but I think he's a combination of them both. 592 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,039 Speaker 3: He's like the super morph. 593 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 594 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: But uh, I like Eric Carr's drumming, especially like look 595 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,200 it Up and you know night and shit like that. 596 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,720 But you can't beat Peter Chris, you know at all. 597 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,880 It wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here today. 598 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,839 Speaker 1: Well, dude, Peter had that swing. 599 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:15,759 Speaker 2: You know. 600 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,599 Speaker 1: There there was a feel. Same with Steven Adler. There's 601 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,640 there's just a feel. I remember when I saw an 602 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:30,759 interview with uh, who's the guy that replaced Matt'sorm, Yeah, 603 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:34,160 Matt's Orm. They said, I can't play those songs like that. Yeah, 604 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,279 I can't play the song. I can play the songs, 605 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,240 but I can't play the songs like that exactly. It's 606 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,400 just there's just a looseness. 607 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: Sure, is that right? 608 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,799 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a drummer. I mean I could 609 00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:47,880 barely play guitar. 610 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: No. Just like if you think of Sabbath, even like 611 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:54,880 when bill Ward left, they had to start over because 612 00:28:55,359 --> 00:29:01,799 Vinnie as cannot when bill wardo to complete, yeah, you know, 613 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,880 and and Vinnie can't do that, so they almost had 614 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,319 to like. 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Go to the deal Era more for on the floor. Ship. 616 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,599 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that because you know Bill 617 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,559 Ward's a jazz drummer, Yes it is. You know, so 618 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:18,359 you hear Vinnie play like war Pigs and Ship. It's 619 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,079 not the same. It's like a metal versus war. You know, 620 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,039 there's no swing, there's no nothing to it, right, But 621 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,240 it was progressed the band too. 622 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,759 Speaker 1: Well. I think it's look, I mean you look at 623 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:30,319 the guys in my ear. You just got to look 624 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,039 what they came up on. Well, they know they they 625 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,000 learned playing jazz and big band and they were Yeah, 626 00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:40,640 and because that's I'm sure even Bottom that's what he learned. 627 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but in Mitch Mitchell ginger Baker, you know, Keith 628 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,960 moved all those dudes from that Charlie Wattson even for 629 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,319 Christ's sake, you know, like all those dudes and what's 630 00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,640 the Clyde Bunker. He's one of my most underrated drummers. 631 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,960 Jethro tell Clide bonker Man that that dude's something like 632 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,759 no one talks about. They're all just like, oh the 633 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,440 oh listening to the fucking drums. 634 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,279 Speaker 3: Good lord. You know, back then there's all the swing. 635 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,079 Speaker 2: It was all big band swing, and you know that's 636 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:12,839 what the because you got to think about when those 637 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,359 dudes were ten and twelve, that's what's the music, especially 638 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:16,960 in Europe. 639 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's funny you bring up Jethro Tall so 640 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,559 over the pandemic when when I really got to know Dawson, 641 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,079 we did what we were told to do, which was 642 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:32,200 go to his garage and get hammered every single night. 643 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:35,680 And so we did that because we couldn't fucking do 644 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,319 anything else. I mean, it was the pandemic, pandemic whatever, 645 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,759 and it was just us and a couple other dudes 646 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,640 or sometimes just us or whatever, just getting hammered and 647 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,960 listening to Casey Kasem's Okay channel, right, And this one time, 648 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,160 this hippie guy comes over and he brings two hippie girls. 649 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:01,359 It's like, holy shit, there's girls talk to girls. This 650 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,400 is cool. So we're listening to Casey and it was 651 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,680 the seventies and Casey. Yeah, there are this Jethreell Tall 652 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,680 guy there. I don't know why my Casey sounds like 653 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,039 nor McDonald, but yeah, there's uh Jethrow Tall right here 654 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,799 at number thirty nine on the UH the top forty 655 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,359 countdown and awkwa long is what it is. And one 656 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,839 of the girls this is a true story stands up 657 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,160 in yells Jethrow Tull is the reason that women are 658 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400 held back in society. Now I look at her and 659 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,359 I'm like, okay, I like being informed, I like learning 660 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000 new things we can learn involve and getting hell off 661 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:44,079 this planet. What do you mean he Jethrow Tall is 662 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,319 the reason helped women are held back in society. She goes, well, 663 00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:51,640 he invented the plow. Like, okay, information, I didn't the 664 00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:57,160 guy named Jethrow Tall invented the plows. Yeah, who invented 665 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,680 the plow was named Jethrow Tall? New information? Like, well, 666 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,079 how did that hold women back in society? 667 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:06,359 Speaker 2: Like? 668 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: True story? He made it too heavy? I mean it's 669 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,640 too heavy for women to push, so they had to 670 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,039 they had to stay in the kitchen, in the house, 671 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:21,240 watching the kids, doing the dishes, doing the laundry, yeah, cleaning. 672 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,599 Wait a minute, hold on, you mean to tell me 673 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,759 if Jethrow Tall had not invented the plow, Metallica would 674 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:41,319 have won the Grammy in nineteen eighty nine. Right, that's 675 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,640 a true story. I mean the bit is more condensed 676 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:47,880 when I do it. No, but that's that's true. That's 677 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 exactly what I said. That's how good my timing is. 678 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:50,640 What can I say? 679 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:59,079 Speaker 3: That's classic, That's what I know. I know it was 680 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,119 that I and Anderson, but that yeah. 681 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,519 Speaker 1: Actually I told that story to one of the because 682 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,640 one of the guys from Jethro Tall not Ian, I 683 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,680 think one of the guitar players was on the on 684 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,799 the Blue Cruise and I told him that story and 685 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,880 he fucking lost his ship. He thought it was that's 686 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,799 crazy stuff. That's good stuff. Favorite a song to play me? 687 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Oh man, you know what it's breakout now, isn't it. 688 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,119 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, as of Saturday, it's now 689 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,720 breakout as a drummer. Absolutely, I will say that is 690 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,640 either that or snow Blind is still one of my favorites. 691 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, snow Blind is always fun. 692 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,039 Speaker 3: Breakout was that was fun? That was fun. 693 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,559 Speaker 1: And you were not scared of it, and I'm proud 694 00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:49,680 of you. I feel like a like a proud weird uncle, right. 695 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: You know. 696 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,519 Speaker 3: I just remember like looking up and you're just like 697 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,240 you're good man, everything's cool? Like fuck. Like then I 698 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,599 had to go in my brain and go how does 699 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,400 this start again? 700 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I even said, I feel like a 701 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,319 really terrible Ace Freely fan because I haven't heard that 702 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,519 song until you sent it, you know. 703 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, how the fuck do I not know this song? Oh? 704 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,079 Speaker 2: This is car Jamie, That's what I thought it was 705 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,800 when I first heard. I'm like, oh, okay, so there's 706 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,559 no lyrics or nothing. This is just that and the 707 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,559 drum solo because you kept saying good. 708 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,079 Speaker 3: Luck Beautie, Like, what does it mean? 709 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,559 Speaker 2: This is a fucking drum solo? And then listen to like, 710 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,280 this is not card Jmatie one. There is lyrics, there 711 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,719 is a chorus, and there's this fucking weird shit in them. 712 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,639 What you know, Well, I think we nailed that, motherfucker. 713 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: Man. 714 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was great. 715 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,480 Uh Pete, I'm gonna hit the outro music here and 716 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,079 uh tell us. Now, where can they get the record? 717 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: Well, probably a Ripple dot com or basically anywhere I 718 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,079 would assume. I know it'll be l digitally and CD's. 719 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,599 Speaker 2: As well, but the vinyls is gonna be probably just 720 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,320 check the Act Trager Facebook page. 721 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: Oh Ripple, do I know they have a bank camp 722 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:05,320 and all that shit, too, so probably vi of them 723 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,360 would be bad or up you know, or live you 724 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,239 know sometimes too. 725 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,599 Speaker 1: I love If people want to find you online, where 726 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:14,480 can they find your pet? 727 00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: They can find that's just that actpres on Facebook. Yeah's 728 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,480 looking up. You'll see our our face and the ship 729 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,639 and there we are. 730 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: Have a say, all those links will beat down here 731 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,519 that thing, that thing that you can't see right now, 732 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:35,440 but right next to the right below that subscribe button 733 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840 that you have to hit to, you know, keep following 734 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,920 the show, Minnesota, Pete Campbell, Dude, this is fun. 735 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: It is very fun. 736 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: I love you and I've missed you already. 737 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: And if you warn out that smoke and kills record yet. 738 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,639 Speaker 3: Not yet getting there though, We're yeah, we're jaming, we're 739 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,559 jailing it. You're right. 740 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Hey, guys, hit up 741 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,440 patri patrion dot com slash real Lizzie Presley is he 742 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,440 president dot com? Find all my information. If you're coming 743 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239 to Vegas getting married, hit me up. I can do 744 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,920 that as well. On the behalf of Minnesota. Pete Campbell, 745 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,599 I'm Missy Presley. Don't forget what I lacking talent make 746 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:06,400 up for the cock. 747 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,599 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. 748 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,079 Speaker 3: We're a little late. Just say good night, Racie, good night, 749 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,679 good night.