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we're on the Mosters of Rock Cruise. We'll be back
at Pete. You're gonna love these, Okay. We have two
interviews coming up, two authors. The first one, you know,
we'll save that one for second because I know you're
gonna love these. Oh Night twenty one and Rush in
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Speaker 3: It is cool.
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fucking cool. Sweet, and this book that is out now,
Kiss nineteen seventy.
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that's not out yet.
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will be on. And actually, the Kiss one's really cool
because they go by every month from nineteen seventy six
and they tell you exactly what Kiss is doing and
what else is going on in entertainment in the world.
So it's pretty fucking cool. Joining me hold on I
was hammering beers during the first interview and I just
took a nap, So it's coffee time, ladies and gentlemen.
Joining me right now is an old friend, the man
that I created at a tribute to Ace Frehley with
in twenty thirteen, in March, I Believe March of twenty thirteen,
Keller Bar. He played with Pentagram for many years. He's
been on the show before. He was on one of
the summits in beautiful Downtown Burbank and his current project,
which we're gonna get into right away, is called Ax
Dragger featuring Pete Pete Minnesota, Pete Campbell. Why don't you
tell us who's in Axe Dragger?
Speaker 3: Who is in ax Dragger?
Speaker 2: Well, Ax Draggers myself on drums, my man Bob Bulch
from Fu Manchu on guitar, my other buddy from Sweden,
Frederick Aikinson. He was in basically everything that's cool that's
ever came out of Sweden in the metal world. Currently
he's in Dark Funeral and like a sub sub project
of Candle Mass. Well, he was in Grave and he
was in all kinds of shit, so he's amazing. And
then vocals as my man Terry Glades, the original singer
from Pantera, and Lord Tracy that guay man, he's fine
wine that dude is.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. How did, I mean, how did
you get involved with this? Who? Whose idea was this project?
Who reached out to?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: Who got the wheels rolling?
Speaker 3: Uh? Man?
Speaker 2: Well, me and Bob are talking forever to like this
jam maybe was like the thing. But then, uh, right
before I left Pentagram, we needed a guitar player for this,
the new record, so we keep talking.
Speaker 3: We were asking.
Speaker 2: People to come or whatever. So I got ahold of
Bob and said, hey, man, you want to help like
write this record, and he said, yeah, that'd be cool.
So he kept sending me riffs, uh Pentagram wise, and
then I'm quitting, so I was like fuck that, you know.
So then and him just kept kept throwing riffs to
each other, and then he's like, we should do these
RIfS are too cool to like not do anything, and
he's like, well, put some drums on them. So I
put drums on a couple and he's like, kept, this
is pretty rat. So then he kept sending songs and
then I would do that. Then we found Frederick, and
then we ended up like sending some of the tunes
to just random cool singer guys. I actually asked your
boy Phil Lewis if he would be interested, and he.
Speaker 3: Says, he just not my thing, you know. But we
had all constitutions.
Speaker 2: And then then Bob said, hey, what what do you
think about Terry Glaze?
Speaker 3: And I had to like kick in my brain.
Speaker 2: Like Terry Glaze and like like black Magic Panther, Power Metal, Pantera.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I go, do you know him?
Speaker 2: He's like no, When I'm friends with them on Instagram,
I'll send him message yep.
Speaker 3: So we none of us have ever met.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, and so yeah, he sends me a
message back, he's like he's in.
Speaker 3: He wants a song. It's like, oh shit.
Speaker 2: So then we sent him what we had for the
first single that came out, and we're like, man, this rule.
So then we asked him again, Hey, you want to
do another one. He's like yeah, so we sign another one.
Then it finally got down, hey you want to do
a record and he's like absolutely, So okay, we're in.
Speaker 3: We're done. So that's how that kind of happened. It
was more like at you know.
Speaker 2: Just me and Bob throwing riffs for a for a
pentagram basically m h and I just said.
Speaker 3: That ship and I split. So then that's how this became.
Speaker 2: And it started as just a little project, but so
I think it's it's a full blown band at this point.
Speaker 1: Did you I mean, when when you brought Terry in, Terry,
did I say, Terry, what's the singers? That fucking Terry?
Speaker 3: Terry?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What what did you expect?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Was there was there? Lyrics? Was there? There was it?
Speaker 3: He had? Ye.
Speaker 2: All we had was just like working song titles m
hm and that, and he actually used those and then
he just did everything himself, you know, like we had
no lyrics, no that we kind of just.
Speaker 3: Gave him car blanche, you know, like go do whatever
the fuck you want. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting what he sent back, you know, like
it was instantly like goose bumpy Ship. I'm like, man,
we're on something here, you know, like this is brad.
But it worked because we were going for that kind
of old school metal.
Speaker 3: Thing, right. He just killed it. So yeah, he did
all the ladies and all that shit himself.
Speaker 1: He just so you you had no melodies in your head,
you had nothing. You just said, just take it, let's go.
Speaker 2: I'd hear the like I would literally wait to get
an email from Bob with the song with a drummers,
so I didn't even know any of the song. I
would just play to the rips he sent you know
that time. So we never like wrote a song together,
which is fucking wild.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, how long did it take for the whole
thing to actually come together? From from the start of saying, okay, funk,
I'm out of Pentagram, let's do this, let's do a song,
and all the way up until now where you have
an album coming out this week? Yeah, yeah, this Thursday.
This Thursday, so it'll be yesterday by the time the
non Patreon people are hearing. Yeah, so it's out now,
it comes out on.
Speaker 2: I would talk about maybe a year and a half, okay, yeah,
so about every other.
Speaker 3: Month we'd get a new song.
Speaker 2: But then you know, you'd send it to me and
then I would do the drums, and then we send
it to Sweden and then Frederick would do the bass
and they mix it a little bit and then go
to Terry Terror do the vocals. Then it would come
back and then we're like, yeah, that's it, and almost
everything was It's like one take ship, you know, which.
Speaker 3: Was just so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's always great. But did you guys
shop it around it all? I mean, is this out?
You guys put this out on your own? How do
ar was it coming out?
Speaker 3: It's coming out on Ripple Music.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Ripples like an underground label, but they do
all kinds of stuff with some super cool stuff. They
just put out the Obsessed Record and like stuff like that,
so we were kind of looking for it. That was
our first thing, Bob, So what do you think about Rippler?
I've always wanted to Ripple Record personally, I have like
everything they've ever done.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, we don't even need the shop.
Speaker 2: But and Todd uh Severn and the owner of Ripples
just a killer dude. So it just it just made sense,
So like, why go anywhere when this is what we want?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Right kind of fell into place and it's fucking perfectly.
Speaker 1: How tough is it for people that don't know and
I don't know, I mean the shopping stuff, dealing with records,
dealing with record labels, finding the right deal. Yeah, because
you know, it's not like the old days. It's those
days are long gone, but record labels still I mean,
if you get you don't if you're not careful, you
can still get fucked.
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely no, it's it's a pain in the ass. Luckily,
it was so easy for this, you know, simple where
you know, everything we kind of asked for we got,
you know.
Speaker 3: And we're not trying to make money. You're right, you
don't make money, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, there's.
Speaker 2: Everything we wanted with the artwork and and the different
colored vinyls and and ship like that, and then plus
you know, they popped in some money for and I
people are gonna hate me because I have brain farting
on these dudes' names. But the guy who mixed it
mixed like super Unknown from song Garden and then like
and some other stuff.
Speaker 3: And the dude who.
Speaker 2: Mastered it did like Metallica, and so we wanted to
like get as many names as we could to make
it a cool thing.
Speaker 3: And that was because those dudes are cheap. You know.
Speaker 2: It all worked out was like that's all we want. Like, so, yeah,
I'm extremely happy with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it is so you're getting like multiple colored vinyls.
I mean, is there a point is too much?
Speaker 2: You know, I used to think the same thing. I
was like, man, this is dumb. It's it's the same ship.
But having records out that there is literally four different
variants or whatever, like, the collectors go nuts for that ship,
you know, the purple.
Speaker 3: Blue and red one.
Speaker 2: There's only one hundred ever, you know, so they have
to put you know, like and I think half of
them already.
Speaker 3: The pre sale is already out for half of the ship. Really,
and I mean it just.
Speaker 1: Right, dude, that's fucking wild.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Like it's one of those things where are right when
you think you're out, they'll pull you right back in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys talked about I mean, you've
never you've never been in the same room.
Speaker 3: We've never played one together.
Speaker 1: You've all four of you have never actually physically been
in the same room, which is wild.
Speaker 2: I've never met Terry. I met Bob and Frederick. Bob's
never met Frederick, but met Terry. Frederick's never met Bob
or Terry. You know, so we've never we've never done
the ship. Well, there's some talks right now, for like
in September doing a couple a little quick run oh nice, yeah,
in the States, and then a bunch of europe stuff
next year.
Speaker 1: So there's already, I mean, is there management? Is that
you guys doing this all on your own? How what's
going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like PR stuff already and stuff and agents,
booking agents have already reached out.
Speaker 3: I mean because on paper it's cool, you know. So,
I mean I see that people.
Speaker 2: We're gonna both fucking heads off, you know, So it's
rolling already.
Speaker 1: Was there any thought in your head? And you know,
obviously music fans they they have these thoughts about what
the original singer from Pantera and all the old guys,
I mean, what is is this real? Is this? I
mean is this? Is this a real thing? Is it
just gonna be one record? Is it just fun?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Is there any of those thoughts in your head about
what people may think about ship like that?
Speaker 2: Well that I did at first, I was like, okay,
like what people are gonna say? But then when the
when the first single came out, it came out like
and I hate fucking hate the term supergroup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's dumb, but that's all. It says,
super mental supergroup, you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, then like every single has been just
crazy response in the in the best way possible, you know.
Speaker 3: So I think there.
Speaker 2: I think when people see the names, they're like, Wow,
what the fuck could this be? You know, because like
lead Bob from fu Man Chew, he's this desert rock
stoner rock dude, you know, Frederick plays the Swedish black
metal you know whatever. And it's like, but holy fuck, really,
you know, that's the response I've been seeing, and really
it's super rad.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, speaking of the black metal guys, if
you are a fan of the meta, I'm sure if
you're listening to the podcast you are, especially this particular one,
make sure you get out to Vegas here and check
out the Metal Blade Records Museum. It is very badass.
And I hit up metal Blade dot com slash museum
and I only give that pimp because one it's awesome
and two I work there every once in a.
Speaker 3: While, So there you go.
Speaker 1: You gotta throw it out, but you gotta throw it
out when it's reasonable and relevant, you know what. I'm saying,
you know, you know, if I have if I have
a porn star on, you know, talking about titties and
getting pump jacked. Maybe not the metal blade. Uh, let's
drop that one in there. But yeah, we're talking to Minnesota,
Pete Campbell. You were talking about ACTRAC. Let's drop the
metal blade in there, you know exactly.
Speaker 3: No, that's cool, but I think people who absolutely love that.
Speaker 1: No, you said that. We were talking last week, and
when we did our act show, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, I want to tell you again, we kicked ass.
Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. Thank you so good. I mean,
froze our ass off and rehearsal and YadA, YadA, YadA.
So you've there's been some press for this. Yeah, did
you did you see some little like Rolling Stone They had.
Speaker 2: A little blurp on their website and like Revolver and
you know rock Feed and all that ship Europe. It's crazy.
So I think that's where we're really hit first. Yeah,
it's like, I don't know why I think that's going
to be our audience.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: You know, yes they do, yes, they do be.
Speaker 2: The thing, but crazy like get that seeing all that ship, Wow, man,
Like that's cool.
Speaker 3: Like some bucket list.
Speaker 2: Ship, you know, if you've been doing it for twenty
seven years and you know, finally done, you finally get it, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right right, Pee, who's your first national gig?
Speaker 3: That was sixty watch Shawman on Maryland.
Speaker 1: Okay, Ship, how do you? How do you land that
being Minnesota Pete Campbell?
Speaker 2: But that's how I got the name Minnesota Pete campbells Okay,
Well that makes sense, yep. That that was they were
opening up for Clutch, And we'd always every time Clutch
came through town. Excuse me, we'd always go early to
see all the opening bands, you know, because I mean
that's how I found Fu Manchu was opening for Clutch.
Speaker 3: I could even get about.
Speaker 1: Is that at First Avenue?
Speaker 3: Sure was sure?
Speaker 1: I think I think I might have been at that show.
Speaker 3: Actually today.
Speaker 2: In search of their record turn thirty years old, and
they were on tour for that record, so that tells
you it was thirty fucking years ago. So anyway, sixty played,
it was clutching coc and then sixty and I just
loved him. And back then they had at their merch table.
This was before emails and all that shit. They had
a mailing list that you could like you had to
write your name and shit.
Speaker 1: Ye yep.
Speaker 2: Then they'd send you like a thing or whatever. And
he said they're looking for a drummer and that's me
and my brother.
Speaker 3: And he's like, dude, do it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, they're all the way in Maryland.
I'm like, what the hell? So one night I just called.
It was Dan the singer, so yeah, I like to play.
We talked for two hours. It's like, all right, dude,
can you be here like tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Or the next day. I was like no, I'm like
I'm in Minnesota. And he's like, oh shit. He's like,
why did I fly you down here?
Speaker 2: They went Really, He's like, well, your attitude is great
and I'd love to hear you play.
Speaker 3: It's like cool.
Speaker 2: Say I went down there for like three days and
rehearsed and then he said, you know, they said you
want the gig.
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2: So I flew back home and told my parents like
I'm moving man, like I'm out of here. So that
till that started, and that back then, I mean, we
had we had a our light label, Spitfire Records from
so we did like black label Society.
Speaker 3: That was my first tour o wow yeh yeh.
Speaker 2: And then we did like a bunch of clutch stuff
uh coc and.
Speaker 3: All kinds of ship man. It was crazy. Ray Momstein
we did like five shows with him which was nuts like.
Speaker 1: And ironically Zach Wilde and Black Label Saiety. It would
be headlining the Monsters of Rock Crews next month. Cabin
still available, very few so if you want to get
on I think you can still get on Monsters Rock
Crews dot com and then you know, enjoy my karaoke
show DJ Beef Bryan Not and came out and rock
out and have a good time. So so where do
you go from there? How how long are you with them?
And then where do you go from there? I'm pete,
I'm curious because we've I've.
Speaker 2: Never done this yeah yeah, oh for shit seven eight years.
And then I actually met Victor Griffin, guitar player Pentagram.
We uh because when I actually during sixty Watt, I
started another band called the Mighty Nimbus and that me
and Dan from sixty Watch Shaman, so it was like
a side project. And then we had Eric Larson from
Alabama thunder Pussy and right now he's in a veil
like he was on guitar. So we kind of we
did a tour and we ended up playing a couple
of shows with Places of Skulls and that's Victor Friends band.
So I met him and we kind of just hooked
at like we're friends instantly.
Speaker 3: And then Place of Skulls needed a.
Speaker 2: Drummer for a European tour and he called me and
asked me if I would be interested.
Speaker 3: I said yeah.
Speaker 2: So then I was in Place of Skulls for ten
fucking years after that, just like off and on and
then yeah yeah. Then he called me and asked me
if I would do the paragram thing. I was like, oh, sure,
you know, so that's how it all just started. It's like,
you know, that is not what you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah no, but Peter, and this is you know,
this is like the this is this is honest truth.
My first memory of you, which and I'm a drinker,
so I forget a lot of ship, but I think
my first memory of you was at No, it was
before that because I had no it was my my
graduate How did I can't remember how the funk were?
I know we did we meet because Nick, because I
had the I had my graduation party when I was
still working at the Press.
Speaker 3: I knew you when you were at the Press as
the bartender, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you brought you supplied the drums for that show.
I just I don't remember. Did I meet you through
the press.
Speaker 3: That the press or my brother, yeah, or what it
was with guys or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly maybe, I don't fucking know. Honestly, I don't know.
It's just Pete. He's always been around, right, you know,
because I had this thought in my head that, well,
just fuck, did I meet him at the Benton County
Fair when I was with one oh one with that
that Battle of the bands?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That my band Buzzard won that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's right. That's why I remember you from there.
I do. I just, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know me Jean and and Travis Colgrove. Yeah,
we're at and we won that Battle of the bands.
So that was twenty fucking plus years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was twenty twelve, something like eleven, Yeah, because
it was right, it was after I got back from
from my four months Stanton Florida. It's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 1: So did did you when you God asked to join Pentagram.
Were you familiar, I mean, because obviously you love the metal,
but did you how the lord did you know the music?
Speaker 2: Well kind of sort of only from working with Victor
for for so long before that. Yeah, but in sixty one,
I mean, I mean, this is the Maryland d C
doom metal thing, you know. And when I was in
sixty one, it was the Pentagram was That's all it was,
you know, Pentagram, the obsessed, like and I didn't know
anything about Pentagram, you know, And.
Speaker 3: Then I heard him for the first time, going this
is just black, said.
Speaker 2: This is dumb, you know, Like, but then once I
got met Victor and me and him started jamming together,
that obviously plays the Skulls plays a couple of Pentagram songs,
you know, because he wrote those tunes.
Speaker 3: And I started getting into it, and I was like, yeah,
this is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But I think it's subconsciously got into it because I
love Victor, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. So it was like, Wow, I love
this guy. He wrote this song to the band's gotta
be cool.
Speaker 2: But then once I joined the band that it then
I started to appreciate it more.
Speaker 3: Just the player into it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it's it's for drumming, it's it's tough shit, you know,
just could I try to play it as perfect as
the guy who did it before me, but still add
a little something to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make it your own, but still not naked your
own exactly.
Speaker 2: And Jeff o'keef, the original drummer from the seventies, it's
some of that dude's licks are just insane, like in theever,
So I tried to do that. I remember playing a
show with him sitting right up front, and I was
so fucking nervous because we were probably we're doing a
whole seventies set, so all every song he played it
was his babies, and I played it.
Speaker 3: He gave me a big ass hug afterwards, and he's like, dude, nice.
I'm like, well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that what I did? And you know,
and star ladies like, yeah, he nailed it. He's like that,
but that was my lick. I was like, yeah, but
now it's mine, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: How long were you How long were you with Pentagram?
Speaker 3: Eleven years?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: And no, I mean so what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: My math was twenty eleven. Excuse me, no, fourteen fourteen
got my.
Speaker 1: Brother h and you left. I mean pretty much the
whole band left right for a.
Speaker 2: Minute, yep, But then he hired scabs and now they're
doing whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, what was it? Just time? I mean,
was it.
Speaker 2: Dealing with all the bullshit and the stress at the
same time.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see this little thing
over here, yeah, the little Yeah. I left because I
wanted to just be a dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I dreaded leaving because at the time, she was,
you know, two or three years old, and like every time,
and we were touring non stop, and it was just
like I was basically doing it for the money at
that point, and that's like just time. But I just
I couldn't leave her anymore because I'm a firm believer
that like rock and roll of beer forever obviously it
still is. But being a dad to a toddler that
won't that's time you can never get back, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I retired from touring and and that's I just told
the boys. I'm like, I just can't do this anymore. Man, Like,
I just I'd rather be a dad than than to
be a dad to a fucking seventy some year old man,
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yeah, yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 2: And then when I split the Greg quit, you know,
because I'm not pities now here, I'm not doing blah
blah blah. Yeah left, So it was just like it
was just time, you know, everybody just kind of had enough.
Speaker 3: So this is what it is. I wish that is
where it is.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you'll still go on small runs. It's
you're just still on touring for a living.
Speaker 3: Now, you know.
Speaker 2: Now she's seven, Yeah she's a rocker, and then she
gets it, you know, but we were out two and
a half three weeks at a time, you know, you know,
and so I just I can't do that. I'll do
a week or something, you know, something like that, because
she's old enough and understands.
Speaker 1: That right right time.
Speaker 3: It was just terrible, like I dreaded it, like just
you know, so that's why.
Speaker 1: Well, but you know, it's good to know that. Like
if if an act run comes up by accident that
pds there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there there will be talks, my friend.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see if the fingers across that we
get something worked out. That would be that would be
a bad ass do you remember your your kiss moment?
What got you into.
Speaker 3: Kiss my kiss moment? YEP.
Speaker 2: I remember opening up my brother Nick's bedroom door because
he was across the street doing BMX stuff.
Speaker 3: And I opened the door and I see.
Speaker 2: He had this big ass poster Geene Simmons, the one
where he's playing bass and he's got blood all over,
like yeah, like the dressed to.
Speaker 3: Kill costume, like whatever it was. I just looked at
it with what are you? Like, what is that?
Speaker 2: And then then I looked over and then there was
more kiss and more kiss, and then we went to
my aunt's house and I picked up Destroyer. She she
had Destroyer, and I remember looking at it and just going,
this is that guy from Nick's room, Like what is this?
Like I didn't even know it was music, right, I
thought they were like comic book dudes, you know. And
then hearing it for the first time like got a
thunder like all that, it was like that was my like, oh,
I want to do this now for the rest of
my life, like I.
Speaker 3: Want to beat this, you know. So that was it.
My brother Nick was the guy. Just his room was
all kiss.
Speaker 1: Pete. You know, Nick might still be out on that
BMX track. He just didn't just want to still be
out there.
Speaker 3: But now your eyes, she's all in the kiss. I mean,
it's so cool.
Speaker 2: Like today we went the goat to the records or
the label or whatever. Radio station here had a little
pop up record thing at Beaver Island Brewering today.
Speaker 3: Oh cool, just so we popped in.
Speaker 2: And because she wants rock and roll over. You know,
it's like seven year old daughter, don't you want to
go find rock and roll over? So we went no
dice couldn't find it, So.
Speaker 1: Don't don't tell her. There's a there's a misprint with
a tear drop on Paul Stanley's space that I have.
Speaker 3: Uh you have that one?
Speaker 1: That one along with the non makeup Creatures of the Night.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I got that a cassette.
Speaker 1: Nice yea. All right, you're okay. So you're a drummer,
Peter Chris, Eric Carr, Eric Singer.
Speaker 2: Well, actually it's funny because me and I mean the
little one here had this conversation too.
Speaker 3: They're all different and they all brought different things to
the band.
Speaker 2: I personally enjoy our car, but if it wasn't for
Peter Chris, I would not be a drummer, right, singer
smokes them all and everything technically wise, and you know,
but I think he's a combination of them both.
Speaker 3: He's like the super morph.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But uh, I like Eric Carr's drumming, especially like look
it Up and you know night and shit like that.
But you can't beat Peter Chris, you know at all.
It wasn't for him, I wouldn't be here today.
Speaker 1: Well, dude, Peter had that swing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: There there was a feel. Same with Steven Adler. There's
there's just a feel. I remember when I saw an
interview with uh, who's the guy that replaced Matt'sorm, Yeah,
Matt's Orm. They said, I can't play those songs like that. Yeah,
I can't play the song. I can play the songs,
but I can't play the songs like that exactly. It's
just there's just a looseness.
Speaker 3: Sure, is that right?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not a drummer. I mean I could
barely play guitar.
Speaker 2: No. Just like if you think of Sabbath, even like
when bill Ward left, they had to start over because
Vinnie as cannot when bill wardo to complete, yeah, you know,
and and Vinnie can't do that, so they almost had
to like.
Speaker 3: Go to the deal Era more for on the floor. Ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that because you know Bill
Ward's a jazz drummer, Yes it is. You know, so
you hear Vinnie play like war Pigs and Ship. It's
not the same. It's like a metal versus war. You know,
there's no swing, there's no nothing to it, right, But
it was progressed the band too.
Speaker 1: Well. I think it's look, I mean you look at
the guys in my ear. You just got to look
what they came up on. Well, they know they they
learned playing jazz and big band and they were Yeah,
and because that's I'm sure even Bottom that's what he learned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in Mitch Mitchell ginger Baker, you know, Keith
moved all those dudes from that Charlie Wattson even for
Christ's sake, you know, like all those dudes and what's
the Clyde Bunker. He's one of my most underrated drummers.
Jethro tell Clide bonker Man that that dude's something like
no one talks about. They're all just like, oh the
oh listening to the fucking drums.
Speaker 3: Good lord. You know, back then there's all the swing.
Speaker 2: It was all big band swing, and you know that's
what the because you got to think about when those
dudes were ten and twelve, that's what's the music, especially
in Europe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's funny you bring up Jethro Tall so
over the pandemic when when I really got to know Dawson,
we did what we were told to do, which was
go to his garage and get hammered every single night.
And so we did that because we couldn't fucking do
anything else. I mean, it was the pandemic, pandemic whatever,
and it was just us and a couple other dudes
or sometimes just us or whatever, just getting hammered and
listening to Casey Kasem's Okay channel, right, And this one time,
this hippie guy comes over and he brings two hippie girls.
It's like, holy shit, there's girls talk to girls. This
is cool. So we're listening to Casey and it was
the seventies and Casey. Yeah, there are this Jethreell Tall
guy there. I don't know why my Casey sounds like
nor McDonald, but yeah, there's uh Jethrow Tall right here
at number thirty nine on the UH the top forty
countdown and awkwa long is what it is. And one
of the girls this is a true story stands up
in yells Jethrow Tull is the reason that women are
held back in society. Now I look at her and
I'm like, okay, I like being informed, I like learning
new things we can learn involve and getting hell off
this planet. What do you mean he Jethrow Tall is
the reason helped women are held back in society. She goes, well,
he invented the plow. Like, okay, information, I didn't the
guy named Jethrow Tall invented the plows. Yeah, who invented
the plow was named Jethrow Tall? New information? Like, well,
how did that hold women back in society?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: True story? He made it too heavy? I mean it's
too heavy for women to push, so they had to
they had to stay in the kitchen, in the house,
watching the kids, doing the dishes, doing the laundry, yeah, cleaning.
Wait a minute, hold on, you mean to tell me
if Jethrow Tall had not invented the plow, Metallica would
have won the Grammy in nineteen eighty nine. Right, that's
a true story. I mean the bit is more condensed
when I do it. No, but that's that's true. That's
exactly what I said. That's how good my timing is.
What can I say?
Speaker 3: That's classic, That's what I know. I know it was
that I and Anderson, but that yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually I told that story to one of the because
one of the guys from Jethro Tall not Ian, I
think one of the guitar players was on the on
the Blue Cruise and I told him that story and
he fucking lost his ship. He thought it was that's
crazy stuff. That's good stuff. Favorite a song to play me?
Oh man, you know what it's breakout now, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, as of Saturday, it's now
breakout as a drummer. Absolutely, I will say that is
either that or snow Blind is still one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, snow Blind is always fun.
Speaker 3: Breakout was that was fun? That was fun.
Speaker 1: And you were not scared of it, and I'm proud
of you. I feel like a like a proud weird uncle, right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I just remember like looking up and you're just like
you're good man, everything's cool? Like fuck. Like then I
had to go in my brain and go how does
this start again?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I even said, I feel like a
really terrible Ace Freely fan because I haven't heard that
song until you sent it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, how the fuck do I not know this song? Oh?
Speaker 2: This is car Jamie, That's what I thought it was
when I first heard. I'm like, oh, okay, so there's
no lyrics or nothing. This is just that and the
drum solo because you kept saying good.
Speaker 3: Luck Beautie, Like, what does it mean?
Speaker 2: This is a fucking drum solo? And then listen to like,
this is not card Jmatie one. There is lyrics, there
is a chorus, and there's this fucking weird shit in them.
What you know, Well, I think we nailed that, motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was great.
Uh Pete, I'm gonna hit the outro music here and
uh tell us. Now, where can they get the record?
Speaker 3: Well, probably a Ripple dot com or basically anywhere I
would assume. I know it'll be l digitally and CD's.
Speaker 2: As well, but the vinyls is gonna be probably just
check the Act Trager Facebook page.
Speaker 4: Oh Ripple, do I know they have a bank camp
and all that shit, too, so probably vi of them
would be bad or up you know, or live you
know sometimes too.
Speaker 1: I love If people want to find you online, where
can they find your pet?
Speaker 3: They can find that's just that actpres on Facebook. Yeah's
looking up. You'll see our our face and the ship
and there we are.
Speaker 1: Have a say, all those links will beat down here
that thing, that thing that you can't see right now,
but right next to the right below that subscribe button
that you have to hit to, you know, keep following
the show, Minnesota, Pete Campbell, Dude, this is fun.
Speaker 3: It is very fun.
Speaker 2: I love you and I've missed you already.
Speaker 1: And if you warn out that smoke and kills record yet.
Speaker 3: Not yet getting there though, We're yeah, we're jaming, we're
jailing it. You're right.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Hey, guys, hit up
patri patrion dot com slash real Lizzie Presley is he
president dot com? Find all my information. If you're coming
to Vegas getting married, hit me up. I can do
that as well. On the behalf of Minnesota. Pete Campbell,
I'm Missy Presley. Don't forget what I lacking talent make
up for the cock.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: We're a little late. Just say good night, Racie, good night,
good night.