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Speaker 2: All right, better late than never? Right, a little late
Speaker 2: here to get the four o'clock hour started. Apologies, clock
Speaker 2: management never a strong suit of line management. Clock management.
Speaker 2: I don't go. I don't get to break at times.
Speaker 2: I it's s story of my life, Tommy. I mean
Speaker 2: I've had I've had timing really work out well for
Speaker 2: me in a lot of ways. So maybe this is
Speaker 2: just you know what I'm what I deal with to
Speaker 2: where I just don't have the self discipline to pay
Speaker 2: attention to the clock and you know, get out of
Speaker 2: here for a break when we need to said clock right, yes,
Speaker 2: okay with an owl, yep, that's right. So again, better
Speaker 2: late than ever. It's the four o'clock hour. Coffee and Company.
Speaker 2: Feel about Thornton's A on a March Monday, beautiful beautiful day,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be sun There's gonna be sunny outside
Speaker 2: when we leave here today. That makes me happy, Austin.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be dark. In fact, it hasn't been
Speaker 2: dark when we left in a while. But at least
Speaker 2: you know, it's starting to get dark now. No, we've
Speaker 2: got we've got. We lost an hour this weekend, but
Speaker 2: it was worth it. Did that kick your ass? Has
Speaker 2: your body felt that or so? My body didn't feel
Speaker 2: it as far as like sleep, but I don't remember
Speaker 2: it being you know, two days removed, and I feel like, no,
Speaker 2: wait a second, no, Like, it's not three o'clock, it's
Speaker 2: two o'clock. You know what I mean. Like I've looked
Speaker 2: at the clock and realized, yes, I know that that
Speaker 2: technically what it shows me is the actual correct time,
Speaker 2: but like you know, I hadn't adjusted yet, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, Like I'm still I'm still right now
Speaker 2: in the mode of calling them liars by claiming that
Speaker 2: it's actually four o weight because in fact, I know
Speaker 2: it's three oight. But you guys just sped us up,
Speaker 2: and you know, it'll take me a little while to
Speaker 2: get used to it. But yeah, today went by really
Speaker 2: really fast. Therefore I'm just thinking, well, it's because you know,
Speaker 2: I started the day the same time I typically do,
Speaker 2: so therefore I've had the same amount of time. It's
Speaker 2: just yet it's uh, it's taken some getting used to it.
Speaker 2: About you did you feel like you like short weekend? Right?
Speaker 3: Yes, it felt it felt like I worked all weekend
Speaker 3: and it felt like, Thank goodness, my alarm went off
Speaker 3: very well this weekend. But I've I feel like I've
Speaker 3: just been feeling it. Dude, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Hit a wall, huh, Absolutely, But I mean, hey, hopefully, Mary,
Speaker 3: hopefully we were able to save that daylight. Everything that
Speaker 3: we've went through, you know, it was pretty crazy. And
Speaker 3: I talked about this with my pops not too long ago.
Speaker 3: Was because we have the the boat show. Remember if
Speaker 3: for the boat show, I think that's like late January,
Speaker 3: early February, and that's when you're we're we're in full swing.
Speaker 3: That's when I think when we went it was like
Speaker 3: six degrees outside where we were really into the thick
Speaker 3: of it with wintertime. But it seems like around here,
Speaker 3: once we get to the boat show, that's like a
Speaker 3: really good telling that we're just literally right around the
Speaker 3: corner from the spring. Everyone's getting out looking at all
Speaker 3: their their summer activity stuff and and you know, everything
Speaker 3: like that. So literally once we hit that, it's been
Speaker 3: all like cruising from there.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, it was great. Now this is what's
Speaker 2: crazy is that we we had a great weekend and
Speaker 2: it got warmer as the days have gone on. It
Speaker 2: was just warmer, you know, Saturday was nice, and then
Speaker 2: it got warmer yesterday, and then of course today's beautiful.
Speaker 2: We've got a high of seventy one, seventy seventy three
Speaker 2: on Saturday, so I mean it's gonna be warmer then
Speaker 2: again a week from now we've got highs in the fifties,
Speaker 2: which isn't terrible, but man, to get like a you know,
Speaker 2: to get the stretch we're about to get here, five
Speaker 2: six days straight of just really not only warm weather
Speaker 2: but sunny, yeah, and no humidity. And of course it's
Speaker 2: not going to be that cold like that. That that'll
Speaker 2: be a real tease if we do end up getting
Speaker 2: revisited by by the winter weather, because I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna get like any snow, but even
Speaker 2: if it got like cold again, like I would be like,
Speaker 2: come on, now, I thought we were older this. I
Speaker 2: thought I thought we were past this. But anyways, you
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Speaker 2: You'll have it down by the end of this week.
Speaker 2: I think so, I think I will. We were talking
Speaker 2: about the uh how I still hadn't remembered the new
Speaker 2: text line just yet. I'm having to reference my notes
Speaker 2: here every time, just because I don't want to slip
Speaker 2: up and get it wrong. But eventually, I'm sure I'll
Speaker 2: get I'll get it down. But we had somebody, well,
Speaker 2: if we started talking about phone numbers, like this day
Speaker 2: and age, you really don't need to remember a number
Speaker 2: because most people who use a phone use a cell
Speaker 2: phone and they save contacts to where you don't even
Speaker 2: see the number. We had somebody after that conversation ask
Speaker 2: if we remembered our license plate numbers. And I remember
Speaker 2: mine for a weird reason, but most people, I would
Speaker 2: assume don't. But what about this, Do you know your
Speaker 2: Social Security number off the top of your head? Austin? Oh, yes, okay,
Speaker 2: because I don't know how as an adult you wouldn't
Speaker 2: remember it. I feel like you just need it for everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean when you sign up for stuff, I mean,
Speaker 2: sports books, for It's very true, for sure. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: even like when you become an adult and you've got
Speaker 2: to start filling out all your paperwork, you do it
Speaker 2: so many times in that early stages of adulthood to
Speaker 2: where the repetition is going to make it to where
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for you to forget it. And
Speaker 2: you've and honestly, the last four is what really separates
Speaker 2: you from most and then the other numbers I guess
Speaker 2: could be it can it can be different, but you
Speaker 2: know a lot of you know, depending on your age,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. The other numbers before the last four,
Speaker 2: you know, those are usually I shouldn't say they're easy
Speaker 2: to just remember, but like that makes sense. I mean
Speaker 2: I have, like I've got repetition I can give you.
Speaker 2: I mean, just like you do a phone number like
Speaker 2: da Da Da da, Like you know my my social
Speaker 2: which I'm not going to give it away, but you
Speaker 2: know it's three and then the two and then I
Speaker 2: know my last four because my last four, Like there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things I feel like like even I
Speaker 2: don't have it set up that way now on our
Speaker 2: in our system, but if they were going to give
Speaker 2: you like a default password for something within like your company,
Speaker 2: and you needed to like set up your own one
Speaker 2: thing that I know a lot of places will do.
Speaker 2: That's just the last four of yours is your code
Speaker 2: until you put your own in or something like that.
Speaker 2: But what always gets me and I I've talked about
Speaker 2: this before, there's a lot of different worlds within TikTok.
Speaker 2: You can get. You can get on cooking TikTok, you know, police,
Speaker 2: body cam TikTok, dancing TikTok. I mean, there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of different worlds within that platform, and the algorithm knows
Speaker 2: you and gives you what you most likely want to
Speaker 2: watch when you watch TikTok. So I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: plan looking for this, but it somehow became part of
Speaker 2: my algorithm on TikTok long long ago, and it still is,
Speaker 2: and I still find myself not being able to just
Speaker 2: turn off a real good five part TikTok video of
Speaker 2: like a body cam camera from a cop when he
Speaker 2: pulls somebody over, Like I don't know what it like.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't watch a lot of cops when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, but like seeing these people who
Speaker 2: get like, it's really satisfying to see people get what
Speaker 2: they deserve, meaning get arrested. And it also reminded me
Speaker 2: that I'm sure, like, regardless of what you may think,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there have been some clear examples of
Speaker 2: where they didn't want their body came on because they
Speaker 2: were not being great officers. These guys gotta love the
Speaker 2: transparency they get by like, yeah, you're gonna, You're gonna.
Speaker 2: I would there should be a show. I can create
Speaker 2: a show and it would get it would get a lot,
Speaker 2: and by we wouldn't have to pay off for because
Speaker 2: all the all the body cam footage stuff is just
Speaker 2: public record, like you just put it at records request,
Speaker 2: and it's content people would want to see. But somebody
Speaker 2: in court having to watch the bodycam footage when they
Speaker 2: were lunatics and got arrested when they were drunk and
Speaker 2: got the UIs like, do you know how satisfying it
Speaker 2: would be to it, because it's the satisfaction is great
Speaker 2: to see them ultimately get arrested and you know, like
Speaker 2: you know, they get served what they deserve, but then
Speaker 2: to see them also kind of have to like view
Speaker 2: that that would be so rewarding getting their just deserves.
Speaker 2: So anyways, what I was getting at is when I
Speaker 2: watch those, you won't believe how many times people don't
Speaker 2: have an ID and then they don't know their social
Speaker 2: and about none that of every ten videos that I
Speaker 2: watch where somebody is told to identify themselves and they
Speaker 2: claim they don't have their license, they're usually lying about
Speaker 2: who they are. They have warrants and they don't want
Speaker 2: people to know. And then whenever you know, they can't
Speaker 2: pull them up because they have a generic name, they
Speaker 2: then try to get them by their social and then
Speaker 2: they say they don't know their social and again the
Speaker 2: officers now call them out, like most of them call
Speaker 2: them out and say, how do you not know your
Speaker 2: social I don't know? I no, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 2: it's always because you are hiding who you are because
Speaker 2: you either don't have a license or it's suspended, or
Speaker 2: you are wanted because you have a warrant. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I don't believe anybody who as an adult that has
Speaker 2: had you know, that has had real life experiences like
Speaker 2: you know, being an adult, like if you're thirty and
Speaker 2: older and you don't know your social I find that
Speaker 2: to be highly suspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a little side streak to go down there,
Speaker 3: and you might be a little bit more in touch
Speaker 3: with the law than I am, So this might be
Speaker 3: a stupid question.
Speaker 2: In touch with the law, what do you mean, like
Speaker 2: knowing what's legal and what's not. Yeah, okay, let's just
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 3: So, like you get pulled over by a cop, if you, like,
Speaker 3: are you in trouble if you don't have your ID,
Speaker 3: Like it's one of those.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to have it, You're supposed to have it
Speaker 2: on you. But if you just simply like forgot your wallet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're an upstanding citizen with no warrants, no traffic tickets,
Speaker 2: sure they can run your they can get they can
Speaker 2: pull your information without the ID, and then it's really
Speaker 2: the officer's discretion, I believe, as far as do they
Speaker 2: want to cite you for not having your license?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: If you just if you if you got pulled over
Speaker 2: for going seven over the speed limit and you had
Speaker 2: no record, no criminal history, no traffic tickets, nothing, I
Speaker 2: would imagine that the cop would probably run your information,
Speaker 2: see all that, and then they probably would just give
Speaker 2: you a warning about one going going seven over and
Speaker 2: also not having your license, so they could be they
Speaker 2: can be jerks if they want, as far as I
Speaker 2: think citing you for it. But you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think you'll actually get in any because it happens people
Speaker 2: forget there. I mean, heck, I've left the house without
Speaker 2: my all the time. Yeah, I mean it's you know,
Speaker 2: so uh, it's not it's not actually having a license
Speaker 2: that will get you. And there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: out there driving they don't have one, yeah, or like
Speaker 2: registration go any other legal questions. I've watched, I've watched,
Speaker 2: I've watched enough bodycam footage to uh to at least
Speaker 2: be dangerous when it comes to knowing, because what's what
Speaker 2: what is also really satisfying is the people who think
Speaker 2: they know I know my rights and and and they
Speaker 2: don't know they actually do not know at all what
Speaker 2: they are legally allowed to do, and like what right
Speaker 2: they have, Like this belief that you don't like that
Speaker 2: that the officer cannot ask you to get out of
Speaker 2: the car is a lot. They can absolutely can, and
Speaker 2: they can reference the case law. They do it all
Speaker 2: the time that says we have on a traffic stop,
Speaker 2: we have the right to request that you removed, that
Speaker 2: you you get out of the vehicle, and you know
Speaker 2: they you know, they usually don't, but like if they do,
Speaker 2: they're not they're not violating your rights. And it's pretty
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear. And yet there's so many people that
Speaker 2: think they know that in the and they're wrong. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then also once you just like all right, I
Speaker 2: need to see your sergeant because I'm not getting out.
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. Yeah, that's that's when it turns into
Speaker 2: where it becomes a whole thing and you get made
Speaker 2: an example out of because like you probably didn't do
Speaker 2: anything super legal until you started becoming a headache and
Speaker 2: refusing to obey lawful orders and then becoming you know,
Speaker 2: a jerk about it, and if you try to wait
Speaker 2: it out, they will break your window in. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean they shouldn't do that. I mean, I'm'm sure they
Speaker 2: don't want to do that. But like, I don't know
Speaker 2: why I get such satisfaction in seeing people basically get
Speaker 2: what they deserve for thinking that they know things that
Speaker 2: they don't. And really, I would have, you know, out
Speaker 2: of side, out of mind, Like I don't sit around
Speaker 2: oftentimes and think about law enforcement and how they're treated
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And clearly there's some bad apples
Speaker 2: in that bunch. We all know that. But I'm glad
Speaker 2: I at least have the trans there's transparency out there
Speaker 2: to where I can watch, you know, countless officers pulling
Speaker 2: people over or showing up to investigate something because somebody
Speaker 2: called the law, and you know, they're they're treated like
Speaker 2: garbage by people, you know, for you know, for no
Speaker 2: reason a lot. So had I never you know, fallen
Speaker 2: in this world of TikTok and seeing that, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have really known that. And again there's there's bad cops,
Speaker 2: there's good cops, but like there's so many people that
Speaker 2: end up in trouble with the law just because they
Speaker 2: don't know any better, like meaning they think that they
Speaker 2: are invincible and they don't have to listen to any authority.
Speaker 2: And really when you just push it push, like you
Speaker 2: how many times, Oh, you're gonna lose your job? I'm
Speaker 2: suing you? Oh you you? Oh your badge number better
Speaker 2: be on the report. Like they think that they have
Speaker 2: the ability to like make some calls and get a
Speaker 2: cop fired, and like sometimes people do that and they're
Speaker 2: just drunk idiots, right, But other times it's just entitled buffoons.
Speaker 2: Yeah that like you know, think that they they know.
Speaker 2: I mean, they just live in their own world.
Speaker 3: I guess about show idea cops, but just straight law
Speaker 3: abiding citizens. It's the most boring routine. Stop ever, let
Speaker 3: me get your license, let me run it all right,
Speaker 3: You're good to go, and that's the end of it.
Speaker 3: Cause I feel like I grew up my dad. We
Speaker 3: used to sit around and love watching cops tamement tonight
Speaker 3: and then like the Simpsons or however however that schedule went.
Speaker 3: But it seems like, I don't know, seven out of ten,
Speaker 3: eight out of ten times when people are in like
Speaker 3: high speed chases with the cops, or they decide to
Speaker 3: get out and like ditch somebody and run, and it
Speaker 3: turns into like jumping fences, like it's point break. It's
Speaker 3: like it all starts out with the basic like, look,
Speaker 3: I just pulled you over because you're your blinkered it.
Speaker 2: Oh, that happens all the time. Man. It turned into
Speaker 2: this like now we discovered that you have pot in
Speaker 2: your car. Now we discovered that you're drunk. All you
Speaker 2: had to do was just like you play the game Oh,
Speaker 2: there's that. There are so many videos that I that
Speaker 2: I've watched that are exactly that to where it ends
Speaker 2: up being a whole thing. And by the time they're
Speaker 2: in cuffs in the back seat, maybe they're bloody because
Speaker 2: they wrecked a car, or they ran and had to
Speaker 2: get they had to have the doll that the police
Speaker 2: cadon take them down. Once it's like all over, the
Speaker 2: cop is so like frustrated, not like, you know, feeling
Speaker 2: good that they had to do that. They're like, why
Speaker 2: do weren't you just honest with us and just tell
Speaker 2: us to you know, if you had a little bit
Speaker 2: of weed, it wasn't it wasn't gonna be a big deal.
Speaker 2: Oh you're you're you're driving on a suspended license. You know,
Speaker 2: if it's the first time you've done that, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: do it. But what we can do is have your
Speaker 2: car towd and give you a citation and not take
Speaker 2: you to jail. And you ran and committed want endangerment
Speaker 2: and all these felonies, and it's like it's it's and
Speaker 2: it's usually I mean, it's not like a kid. It's
Speaker 2: usually an adult that does stuff like this. But even
Speaker 2: like the younger cops than the people they are arresting,
Speaker 2: are like, what are you doing? Like you didn't have
Speaker 2: to do all that? Like you made like you you
Speaker 2: clearly just decided to make a really bad decision and
Speaker 2: really ruin your life, when in a way, it could
Speaker 2: have been something much more minor. Although a lot of them,
Speaker 2: a lot of them who claim like you know, I
Speaker 2: usually if it's something real small and they end up
Speaker 2: lying and getting themselves in more trouble, it's because deep
Speaker 2: down they have more to hide. They just they just
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't do a good job of, you know,
Speaker 2: fold under pressure. I mean, you can read when somebody's nervous,
Speaker 2: I would imagine when you pull them over. And that's
Speaker 2: what that's what's always been scary to me because I've
Speaker 2: been pulled over three times in my life. I got
Speaker 2: my first speeding ticket on my way to work about
Speaker 2: year and a half ago. Oh and I I know
Speaker 2: that I don't have illegal drugs on me. I know
Speaker 2: that I'm not a criminal. I know that I have
Speaker 2: no warrants. But when the three times the officer has
Speaker 2: been walking to my door, I'm not sure I've ever
Speaker 2: been more scared in my life that heartbeat. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I got nothing. It's like my wife used to
Speaker 2: say this that we'll be going through security at the
Speaker 2: airport and she's like super nervous, and I'm like why,
Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't know, I don't know, and
Speaker 2: she's and she's like, I just have an instant panic
Speaker 2: that like who knows, maybe somebody put drugs in my bag.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like I guess, I said, I guess.
Speaker 2: It's kind of me with cops, like I know I've
Speaker 2: got nothing to hide. I know that even if I
Speaker 2: do get a ticket, like I'm not going to jail,
Speaker 2: but I just because I get nervous. I wonder if
Speaker 2: I look that nervous and then they think, Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: this guy's really got something to hide here. But then again,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not that. I mean, I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: not a super common thing, but I'm I can't be
Speaker 2: the old one that getting pulled over, even as an adult.
Speaker 2: And even though it's you know, happened to have it
Speaker 2: a few times to me, like, I still get really scared.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's.
Speaker 3: Literally like at the coming back from the Brett Michaels
Speaker 3: concert last weekend.
Speaker 2: Really bro yes with with with with Pops. The Kirkster
Speaker 2: was actually driving and.
Speaker 3: I knew we did staies you in Indiana as coming
Speaker 3: back from French Lick. It was late as like one
Speaker 3: or two o'clock. It is probably like the guy, he
Speaker 3: probably hasn't gotten anybody.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're looking for people to leave an event like
Speaker 3: that because they know, of course that's when they can
Speaker 3: get that's when they can get their things. But I know,
Speaker 3: like I see the lights flash in the rear view,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, is that for us? I know, like
Speaker 3: and you still get kind of nervous when you see
Speaker 3: those red, white blue lights flash. But like I know
Speaker 3: that there's no illegal substances in the car.
Speaker 2: I know that we didn't. I mean I drink, but
Speaker 2: I know, like my dad didn't drink, and he's the
Speaker 2: one driving. I think.
Speaker 3: It turns out we're going like eight miles over the
Speaker 3: speed limit. It is the quickest stop ever. Turns out
Speaker 3: the cop that pulled us over as like from Louisville too,
Speaker 3: and live like all over Louisville. So he was like
Speaker 3: pretty cool to see us. But it was one of
Speaker 3: those like yeah, I've been sitting here all night. I
Speaker 3: had I had to at least say I pulled over
Speaker 3: somebody kind of deal. But that was ticket or warning.
Speaker 2: No, I was just warning good, I mean irazy what
Speaker 2: happens when you comply. I feel like you would be
Speaker 2: good at talking your way out of a ticket, like
Speaker 2: with not without even like you know, you put it
Speaker 2: this way the way you are really good about not
Speaker 2: being in any way like over the top about it.
Speaker 2: But you can use the iHeart logo on a vehicle
Speaker 2: and on your on your clothing and on your badge.
Speaker 2: You can use it and get more than anybody that
Speaker 2: I've realized without being like begging, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: make sense? So like you've got that power. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got like that subtle way of kind of like
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't plan on letting you out of
Speaker 2: it with a warning, but you know what, go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, I mean it's a compliment too.
Speaker 2: By the way, Sorry, sir, I was just coming back
Speaker 2: from a concert. We were, yeah, having a good night. Officer. Yeah, sorry, officer.
Speaker 2: Did you say you wanted something to say? Something bourbon
Speaker 2: to be on tickets? It's not wrong with Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, well, yeah, I guess so, but we were kidding.
Speaker 2: We were kidding, all right, never do that, all right,
Speaker 2: So real quick, where we get to our next break.
Speaker 2: Louisville will have to wait until Thursday to play, which
Speaker 2: is a good thing. The ACC tournament will start tomorrow,
Speaker 2: but no more day is shamed for the cards. They
Speaker 2: are the number two seed. They're gonna play either Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech cal or Stanford. If it goes chalk, meaning the
Speaker 2: favorites win, then that means that they'll play Stanford for
Speaker 2: the second consecutive game. And you never know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 2: but clearly Louisville didn't have too much trouble with them
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Same thing for Kentucky. They'll play on Thursday,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna get the winner of Georgia and Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: two teams that you know dangerous enough to beat you,
Speaker 2: but also Kentucky. You know they should feel good about
Speaker 2: either of those teams. All right, quick break, We've got
Speaker 2: a lot more to get into, so stick around. The
Speaker 2: ACC is hiring basketball coaches, and I don't think so
Speaker 2: far that the hires that have been made are gonna
Speaker 2: certainly put us back in a good spot, meaning the
Speaker 2: acc no longer sucking.
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Speaker 2: ever there's ever a time to play this song. It's
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Speaker 2: And by the way this is is is there's still
Speaker 2: this thing in movies and TV where you have to
Speaker 2: give a number that starts with five to five to five,
Speaker 2: just because like it's you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: it was a known thing that those weren't real numbers, right,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know Mike Jones gave us his real
Speaker 2: number two A one three three eight zero zero four, right,
Speaker 2: And that song there, I mean, like there's I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: I'm not thinking of that that had a phone number
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Speaker 2: have asked about the field of sixty eight giving Shire
Speaker 2: the National Coach of the Year award, Like if I
Speaker 2: you know, my thoughts on it and whatnot? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean he's hardly Yeah, I mean, well, my mind went
Speaker 2: in a different direction. I need to get back on track.
Speaker 2: We do that here. Yeah, it's it's part of it.
Speaker 2: But you know, John Shire was was deserving of all
Speaker 2: the praise that he's getting because Duke had a really
Speaker 2: good season. He did a good job with this scriup. Like,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that he's not a good coach
Speaker 2: and that he didn't do a good job this year.
Speaker 2: I just think as much as he coached a really
Speaker 2: good team and deserves credit, I kind of feel like,
Speaker 2: even though it's been inconsistent at times, as far as
Speaker 2: really what the criteria is for a Coach of the Year, right,
Speaker 2: is it a guy who's coaching the best team or
Speaker 2: the guy who you know was overachieving the most, Like
Speaker 2: it really is. It's it's not been consistent. However, more
Speaker 2: often than not, it does go to somebody who did
Speaker 2: a lot more than people expected. Maybe you see a
Speaker 2: team's results and feel like, man, I'm not sure another
Speaker 2: coach would have been able to get these results. So
Speaker 2: that's more often than not, that's been the ultimate factor.
Speaker 2: That that that that that determines who wins this award.
Speaker 2: Like Rick Patino never won big He's Coach of the Year,
Speaker 2: never won acc Coach of the Year. You know why
Speaker 2: because when he was really, really good and even you know,
Speaker 2: when he had the best teams in those leagues, at times,
Speaker 2: it was what he was supposed to do, doesn't It's
Speaker 2: not it's not a discredit, it's just it's it doesn't
Speaker 2: stand out as you know, I don't know. You gotta
Speaker 2: balance it, right. It doesn't mean that their coaching wasn't
Speaker 2: a factor in their team being good, but also like
Speaker 2: they put together a really good team. Therefore, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe not it should have been the expectation they were
Speaker 2: as good as they are. But I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it. It's already happened. I kind of
Speaker 2: talked myself through the realization last week when we talked
Speaker 2: about these Coach of the Year awards, because I don't
Speaker 2: want to get worked up about it. I don't know
Speaker 2: why I care. I don't need any kind of validation
Speaker 2: for pack for you know, as far as Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: getting a trophy or getting some hardware for me to
Speaker 2: know that he did a great job and Louisville was
Speaker 2: lucky to have him, and that the future seems to
Speaker 2: be really bright here. But just because of how impressive
Speaker 2: he's been this year and why, I just think, man, Louisville,
Speaker 2: There's a lot of factors in why things have played
Speaker 2: out the way they have for us, but him being
Speaker 2: a great coach and great leader is certainly to me
Speaker 2: the biggest one. And he's injected so much new life
Speaker 2: and I think he's clearly been able to get a
Speaker 2: lot out of this group, not only with a team
Speaker 2: built from scratch, but also again a team that lost
Speaker 2: two players. So I think it's gonna sound crazy, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to sound like such a homer and when
Speaker 2: I say this, but I feel like if you're going
Speaker 2: out of your if you're giving the award to somebody
Speaker 2: like Bruce Pearl or John Shire, when you've got really
Speaker 2: like something you never see at all happening, Like what's
Speaker 2: happening at Louisville and you choose to not give it
Speaker 2: to Kelsey and give it to one of those guys.
Speaker 2: It's like you're going out of your way to not
Speaker 2: disrespect Pat Kelsey, but almost like you're just wanting to
Speaker 2: go against the grain. You're wanting to, you know, just
Speaker 2: not fall to what is such an obvious decision here,
Speaker 2: which again it's by the way, for those already mentioning,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Like these are regular season awards, folks,
Speaker 2: Like they mean, even if the award isn't given out
Speaker 2: until like next week, whatever Coach of the Year award
Speaker 2: we're talking about, like because there's a lot of them,
Speaker 2: they still take your vote during the regular season to
Speaker 2: or where you cannot factor in what happens in the postseason.
Speaker 2: So it's a regular season award. The regular season's over,
Speaker 2: and when you look at what Pat Kelsey's been able
Speaker 2: to do, I really just don't know how he can't
Speaker 2: be the obvious winner. It'd be different if you know
Speaker 2: Louisville was a bubble team, because even at that point
Speaker 2: he'd be deserving of a lot of credit. Let's be real,
Speaker 2: but Louisville went twenty five and six and is a
Speaker 2: top fifteen team in the country, and it put themselves
Speaker 2: in a position to clearly be in the tournament. They're
Speaker 2: safely in and I just you know, again, I'm biased.
Speaker 2: I get it. I'm sure there's other coaches that feel
Speaker 2: like they've got just this deserving of an argument, and
Speaker 2: maybe they do, but that doesn't discredit or change anything
Speaker 2: about Pat Kelsey. We're talking facts here, not opinion. When
Speaker 2: you look at all he's done, I mean, he's again
Speaker 2: who gets it is going to be based off someone's opinion.
Speaker 2: Who votes right, many people who have a vote, whatever
Speaker 2: the ward is, that's how you determine a winner. But
Speaker 2: with Kelsey, it's fact not opinion when you look at
Speaker 2: just numbers and what he's been able to do, not
Speaker 2: only just winning. But this is a new one for you.
Speaker 2: So Evan Mayakawa, who is one of the college basketball
Speaker 2: analytic guys that I really really enjoys work, it's Evan
Speaker 2: m i ya dot com or you can get a
Speaker 2: lot of different metrics, and he's got a great breakdown
Speaker 2: here that again this is not a surprise, but it
Speaker 2: really puts even more so in perspective as to how
Speaker 2: phenomenal of a job Pat Kelsey's done given a lot
Speaker 2: of factors working against him, including injuries. So when it
Speaker 2: comes to production missing per game due to injuries for
Speaker 2: top one hundred teams, so again production lost based off
Speaker 2: of you know, guys being injured, Louisville was second. Only
Speaker 2: one team had more production missing per game due to injuries,
Speaker 2: and that was West Virginia, who, by the way, louis
Speaker 2: beat them, but they beat them when they were full strength.
Speaker 2: West Virginia got hurt, they had some guys get hurt.
Speaker 2: In fact, their best player missed the entire missed the
Speaker 2: miss the rest of the season at about January on,
Speaker 2: I think. But other than that, there was nobody else
Speaker 2: that that you know, came close to having more injuries
Speaker 2: than Louisville. And again, what they're basing that off of is,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to keep in mind, this isn't
Speaker 2: just this isn't just the two guys that got hurt
Speaker 2: earlier this year, right, I mean, korn Johnson he did play,
Speaker 2: but they're also basing it off like cor Johnson was
Speaker 2: one of the most proven guys you had on the
Speaker 2: roster because you know, he was the sixth Man of
Speaker 2: the Year in the PAC twelve, like he wasn't coming.
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't guarantee that he'd been great, but
Speaker 2: clearly there wasn't as much of a question mark like
Speaker 2: could he compete at this level, because again he came
Speaker 2: from a level, to be honest, was better than the
Speaker 2: ACC this year. But you also have to keep in
Speaker 2: mind Chucky he missed three halves. Rain has now missed
Speaker 2: three halves essentially, I mean Rain has missed about seventy
Speaker 2: seven minutes of the eighty minutes in the last two games,
Speaker 2: so that factor's in too, and yet they're still winning.
Speaker 2: So like that's just Again that's another example of even
Speaker 2: if everybody was healthy and Louisville wasn't as good as
Speaker 2: they are, I think Pat Kelsey would still be deserving
Speaker 2: of a lot of praise and would be in the
Speaker 2: conversation for every Coach of the Year award out there.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing he's been. He's not just you know,
Speaker 2: getting by. He's got a team that won twenty five
Speaker 2: games and safely in the tournament. And again, the injuries,
Speaker 2: like I forget that the injuries even happened, because this
Speaker 2: team did right, Like they didn't become victims. They didn't
Speaker 2: feel sorry for themselves. They they just you know, next
Speaker 2: they truly adopted the next man up, and everybody who
Speaker 2: was already part of the rotation had to kind of
Speaker 2: absorb a bigger role. I was gonna need to play
Speaker 2: more minutes because you know, you don't have as many
Speaker 2: players to use. I mean, also Trey Oray. It's a
Speaker 2: guy who you know, he's not been one of your
Speaker 2: best players, but he's off coming off the bench since
Speaker 2: he's healthy and he's he's been good for you. He's
Speaker 2: been valuable at times. You know, maybe if he's not
Speaker 2: scoring double figures, he might have seven, seven rebounds and
Speaker 2: four assists and a couple of steals. So like you
Speaker 2: got to keep in mind, he's he's a guy that
Speaker 2: produces for you really at every level. Not he's not
Speaker 2: your leading guy really at any stab, but he's pretty
Speaker 2: active as far as stuff in the stat sheet. He
Speaker 2: missed thirty five percent of the season, so you know
Speaker 2: that's a factor as well. I'll quit talking about it
Speaker 2: because again, like it's a broken record, Like, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna irritate me and it shouldn't. It'll probably bother me
Speaker 2: more than it'll bother Pat Kelsey if he doesn't win.
Speaker 2: God to the Year. And I don't know why I care.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't get worked up about it, but I am.
Speaker 2: And it's because you know, I'm alive again. We are
Speaker 2: back alive as Louisville basketball fans, all thanks to this
Speaker 2: team and what they've given us. And we did talk
Speaker 2: a lot about it, as you could expect in the
Speaker 2: three o'clock hour. As far as to send off for
Speaker 2: these guys on Senior Day, I mean, other than rain
Speaker 2: not being able to play, I'm not sure it could
Speaker 2: have gone much better. I mean a blowout victory. Wasn't
Speaker 2: like you had to sweat it out. Obviously, good games
Speaker 2: from guys who played their last at the Young Center.
Speaker 2: Sixteen apiece for Chucky and Terrence, eleven for Hadley. Noah
Speaker 2: Waterman knocked down a couple of threes. I mean, if
Speaker 2: he's going two to five from three point range, that's
Speaker 2: a game changer for Louisvie. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: because no is one of those guys that let's be
Speaker 2: honest moving forward, like really, since he came back from
Speaker 2: the issue with his hand his thumb, I mean, anything
Speaker 2: you got from him, You felt like it was just
Speaker 2: an added bonus, right because one he hadn't played very
Speaker 2: well this year because of his injury, and also he
Speaker 2: missed games because of the injury. So again, a good,
Speaker 2: good game overall, sixty eight to four. He ate a
Speaker 2: twenty point victory. You know, that's kind of what you're
Speaker 2: supposed to do in those kind of it gets those
Speaker 2: kind of teams. But to see these guys get the
Speaker 2: send off, Chucky kissing the floor, him and Terrence hugging
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey and Pat Kelsey, getting everybody, getting everybody on
Speaker 2: their feet, just losing it, just being the hype man
Speaker 2: for these guys as they walk off the court for
Speaker 2: the last time. Like that's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 2: just hits you in your feels as a fan. And
Speaker 2: I think we were so caught up. We've just been
Speaker 2: so caught up in the moment, right and just enjoying
Speaker 2: this ride because it doesn't seem real at times that
Speaker 2: you can go from being as bad as you were
Speaker 2: the previous few seasons to being here, like again, pinch me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it doesn't seem real. So because of that, like
Speaker 2: I think there were people that didn't realize that like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, here we go. You knew it was senior Day,
Speaker 2: you knew they were going to have the senior day's bestivities.
Speaker 2: You knew you were gonna stick around because you love
Speaker 2: these guys. But you probably got some emotion that you
Speaker 2: didn't expect because you know, you wouldn't have challenged anybody
Speaker 2: who said you loved these guys and knew they were
Speaker 2: a special team. But I mean, I can't remember a
Speaker 2: senior day that that was that was like that, and
Speaker 2: I mean that in a good way. All right, quick break.
Speaker 2: A lot more to get into. I haven't talked about
Speaker 2: it just yet, but Scott Davenport has announced he is
Speaker 2: gonna step down at Bellerman and he's gonna retire, leaving
Speaker 2: it to his son, who, of course, Doug Davenport coaching waiting.
Speaker 2: And I'm sad for Scott Davenport. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he's going out on his own terms and he's got
Speaker 2: nothing to prove. But man, when I think of of
Speaker 2: a of a ball coach in every way, I think
Speaker 2: it's Sott Davenport, And I mean that is a big
Speaker 2: compliment because hell of a coach, hell of a guy,
Speaker 2: hell of a leader, hell of a hell of a
Speaker 2: Louisville you know, role model. I mean, he's a guy
Speaker 2: who you know, I'm proud to say that guy's a
Speaker 2: proud lo Avillion. And the fact that he's ending his
Speaker 2: career a little bittersweet because again, I'm sure he wants
Speaker 2: to retire and have fun, bet on horses, maybe do
Speaker 2: more radio. But he's a legend, and I hate the
Speaker 2: season that he just had was as bad as it was.
Speaker 2: But shout out Scotty D. Quick break will come back,
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Speaker 2: If you're a college basketball sicko like myself, tonight's actually
Speaker 2: an awesome night because you've got some conference championship games
Speaker 2: and usually, you know, you probably don't care about teams
Speaker 2: that play in you know, the the Horizon or the
Speaker 2: so Con. But when you get to this late, especially me,
Speaker 2: even if it's just the Semis, you're gonna usually see
Speaker 2: some good basketball, right teams that don't have you know,
Speaker 2: all Americans or lottery picks, but you know, if they're
Speaker 2: playing late in their tournament. They're pretty good for who
Speaker 2: they are, which could be pretty competitive games, which for me,
Speaker 2: I like betting on them. So tonight, again, I can't
Speaker 2: tell you there's anybody that you're probably interested in watching
Speaker 2: unless you know you're a sicko like me, which is
Speaker 2: why I said for college basketball sickos like myself, it's
Speaker 2: kind of a it's kind of a nice night tonight
Speaker 2: on the on the on the docket here, all right.
Speaker 2: Thank you to somebody who pointed out that despite not
Speaker 2: giving Pat Kelsey the National Coach of the Year, the
Speaker 2: field of sixty eight did put Chucky Hepburn as a
Speaker 2: first team All American, which I don't know if he'll
Speaker 2: get another, you know, another honor like that elsewhere. I
Speaker 2: don't think AP's going to give it to him honor,
Speaker 2: but you know, we'll see. I mean, he's had a
Speaker 2: really good year, and I do think the the issue
Speaker 2: and I shouldn't say it's an issues if I know
Speaker 2: that for a fact, but I believe him getting like
Speaker 2: left off the Bob Coosey Award watch list was just
Speaker 2: a mistake that they didn't like. They I don't want
Speaker 2: to say they forgot about him, like didn't know he existed,
Speaker 2: but like they just overlooked how productive he'd been because
Speaker 2: around the time that that finalist list was put together,
Speaker 2: you know, Chucky was clearly having a good year and
Speaker 2: people knew that. But the story and still is today
Speaker 2: mostly about Pat Kelsey and and that's that's not a surprise.
Speaker 2: But like, Chucky has been the heart and soul of
Speaker 2: this team, and you know, I don't know if he'll
Speaker 2: get another honor, meaning First Team All American. I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody's gonna gonna vote him that as far
Speaker 2: as AP or like ESPN or anything like that, but
Speaker 2: if they do, I'm not gonna be like totally stunned.
Speaker 2: But the other first rounders firms are the other first
Speaker 2: teamers Braden Smith, Walter Clayton, Junior Chucky, have burn Cut,
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg, and Jenni Broom. So you know, when it
Speaker 2: comes to other names that a lot of folks are,
Speaker 2: you know, you've got there's a handful of guys that
Speaker 2: are worthy of of all kinds of praise, and if
Speaker 2: they get named First Team All American, I won't be shocked.
Speaker 2: But I also think that some of these some of
Speaker 2: these fans that are complaining about chucky making that are
Speaker 2: complaining about others making it over their guy. You have
Speaker 2: to keep in mind, you got to be a part
Speaker 2: of a good team. And some of these guys are
Speaker 2: like in the tournament, but like you know, they're bubble,
Speaker 2: And I just feel like to be a first team
Speaker 2: All American, you have to have an insane year statistically
Speaker 2: to make first team All American because it just I mean,
Speaker 2: you you putting up big numbers again to you know,
Speaker 2: for a team that doesn't win. I mean, you're doing
Speaker 2: all you can. Clearly you're the best part of that
Speaker 2: team that's not that good. But it just I can't
Speaker 2: I when the last time somebody was a first team
Speaker 2: All American that played for like a subpar team, Like
Speaker 2: even when when Jahn Morant makes first team All American
Speaker 2: at Murray State. Murray State's got like thirty wins. Now,
Speaker 2: they're not elite, but you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: they're good. It's just hard to do that. And yet
Speaker 2: there's many people complaining about guys being left off that
Speaker 2: some of these guys don't even play for tournament teams.
Speaker 2: All right, real quick, I'm sure many of you listening,
Speaker 2: we're not watching one of these random conference tournament games
Speaker 2: the other night. But if you were, you were in
Speaker 2: for a real treat because Brian Barone, he's the coach
Speaker 2: of s i u E. Anybody know what that stands for?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I bet on them a lot. What's it stand for, sue, Yeah,
Speaker 2: something Edwardsville. I know that, right, Southern Illinois University Edwardsville.
Speaker 2: I think that's it. I'm guessing. I'm here, I am
Speaker 2: acting like I know it, thinking I know it, and
Speaker 2: now I'm kind of second guessing. I just always see
Speaker 2: s i U Edwardsville, so that's how I know. So
Speaker 2: s i u E. They ended up punching their ticket,
Speaker 2: and yes it's Southern Southern Illinois University Eversville. They ended
Speaker 2: up punching their ticket because they won their They won
Speaker 2: their conference tournament, the OVC, and in fact, it's their
Speaker 2: first ever trip to the UH to the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: So congratulations to them. But this is kind of like
Speaker 2: low key a badass move by a coach that I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if this guy's got a bright future. I mean,
Speaker 2: props to him, he's just won his conference tournament, but like,
Speaker 2: this story puts me on this guy telling the story
Speaker 2: on ESPN after he wins. It puts him on my
Speaker 2: radar to where like, yeah, if this guy ends up
Speaker 2: being a bad ass, I'm not gonna be surprised. But
Speaker 2: listen to what he did years ago, kind of building
Speaker 2: up to this moment where they end up being able
Speaker 2: to win their conference first first in school history. We've
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 4: We've been doing historical things the less several years. That
Speaker 4: team right there, we talked about trust, we talked about
Speaker 4: playing for one another, and that's what those guys just did.
Speaker 4: It feels amazing, all right, because I love those guys
Speaker 4: right there, and it's amazing. I'm about to go get
Speaker 4: a pair of scissors that I hung up.
Speaker 2: What amazing? Come on, right, I love you man, so
Speaker 2: proud of you.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you, so proud of you.
Speaker 2: I'm about at all right, Hey, come on, I got it.
Speaker 2: He's having his guys go. He's having his guys go
Speaker 2: grab scissors and listen to the story about the scissors.
Speaker 2: He's getting the scissors. He's six years ago. Ready, six
Speaker 2: years ago. I've put this above our locker room door,
Speaker 2: six years ago, six years ago.
Speaker 1: So proud of you, man.
Speaker 4: We did that six years ago. It's been hanging.
Speaker 2: Above our locker room door.
Speaker 4: People didn't think we're gonna be able to do it,
Speaker 4: but that dude did right there. That dude right there
Speaker 4: believe that we talked about filling the corners in.
Speaker 2: Our six years ago. This guy took a hair of
Speaker 2: old scissors and put them in a glass case, almost
Speaker 2: as if like they're honored, like their famous scissors, and
Speaker 2: hung them above the locker room door. And they weren't
Speaker 2: gonna be able to take down the encasing and open
Speaker 2: and break it open. That's what they did so they
Speaker 2: could use those scissors to cut down the nets because
Speaker 2: they've made the NAA tournament. It's it's sick to do
Speaker 2: it in general, as far as just like having hey,
Speaker 2: those scissors are up there because we're cutting down some nets. Dammit,
Speaker 2: Let's keep believing in the process. Let's establish the culture.
Speaker 2: You know, all that stuff that you say that, you
Speaker 2: know it does mean a lot, but man, just to
Speaker 2: have that payoff and actually, you know six years ago,
Speaker 2: you hang those scissors up there when you get hired,
Speaker 2: and now you've won your league, like that's cool. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's corny. I'm sure to some, but like it's
Speaker 2: what makes sports awesome.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this was a really badass move in theory.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out. But Joe Morehead he got the job
Speaker 2: at Mississippi State. I don't remember where he was as
Speaker 2: an assistant, but he got hired at Mississippi State. And
Speaker 2: he's walking off the bus and you know, holding court
Speaker 2: essentially like waving. They got TV cameras he's getting off
Speaker 2: the bus or maybe he's getting off the plane. But
Speaker 2: players are walking up to greet him, you know, meet
Speaker 2: their new coach, right and each player who who stops
Speaker 2: to shake his hand, he doesn't let their hand go,
Speaker 2: and he points to their ring finger and says, you
Speaker 2: know what size that is. We need to get your
Speaker 2: ring size. We're gonna get some rings around here pretty soon.
Speaker 2: That hits, doesn't it. Now he's stunk and got fired
Speaker 2: after two years and lost the sadder field of the
Speaker 2: Music City Bowl. But like in theory, that was a
Speaker 2: badass move, Like imagine, like that's how you're like you're
Speaker 2: getting to know your coach first impression. He doesn't let
Speaker 2: your hand go because he tells you you need to
Speaker 2: get your ring size figured out. Because that's the kind
Speaker 2: of success we're gonna have around here. Again, it didn't happen,
Speaker 2: but like, isn't that badass? The effort was there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: no doubt. All right, we got another hour. We're gonna
Speaker 2: give you our best effort. That's all we can do.
Speaker 2: That's all we can do a lot to get to here.
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