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Speaker 1: What's wrong with God? Said Sion Dean.

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Speaker 2: All the kids do day off week.

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Speaker 3: They just like to call.

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Speaker 1: Me, oh parents, me bout parenting.

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Speaker 3: Why can't they be more like me? I like to

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a lot and all.

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Speaker 1: Don't you say exact thing played through day crap.

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Speaker 2: Crap, It's all the same.

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Speaker 1: It seems like kinda find no way Jamaica. N you

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say grade tagain Hester dipster doing it too, your gray

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o headstar dipster. They don't know real rocking holes, sister dipster.

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Bunch of little says making small headstar dipster or save

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me doing that's so sad, so shoot road test. They

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probably out the school's locations. Sitting in my stove Deo

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Frank Cross gummy on my phone from sun Kings down

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dot road sell a sound like Banjosy they wisty, could

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be like me.

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Speaker 4: I'll kick their ass.

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Speaker 3: With my feet.

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Speaker 2: The kids today just fucking on.

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Speaker 1: Yuppies, gummy stupid thoughts. I might just be a noppen so.

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Speaker 5: For rocking out this what I knower dipster doing into

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your ray deal Hester dipster.

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Speaker 1: They don't know real rocking rolesister dipster.

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Speaker 3: But you'll o with us baking.

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Speaker 1: Small, mister dipster, I say me doing.

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Speaker 2: That's so sad so so.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Music today isn't even why by real musicians.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna get back saying to me, baby, why

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me a solo.

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Speaker 1: Sir dipster done into your rady o his star dipster.

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They don't know real rocking holes.

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Speaker 3: Five star dipster.

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Speaker 1: B Moses Bacon Small his star dipster. Missend me don't

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meds so fat so shoe.

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Speaker 7: The Commander, don't get supreme Lina Medzo Cobby Do.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, everybody, Welcome, here we go again. It is

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that time Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from

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the studios of w M n H ninety five point

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three FM in glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, streaming everywhere.

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for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact

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Speaker 6: Et cetera, et cetera. And if you are a local.

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Speaker 8: Here in Manchester, New Hampshire, you can just turn on

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your radio dial ninety five point three FM. But and

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today's show, by the way, we'll probably be getting a

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lot more a lot of additional traffic from around the

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world because we've we've got a very international show.

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Speaker 6: Today.

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Speaker 8: We have we have an artist from Australia, then we

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have somebody from the UK beaming in. Then we've got

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somebody from Boston, which is part of the United States,

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somebody joining us live in studio. But speaking of live

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streaming options, so I've just been alerted that, for whatever reason,

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also stream the show live to Facebook, for example, and

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happens occasionally. I have no idea why. Some sort of

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weird software glitch. So there is no video component for

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today's program. This is audio only.

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Speaker 8: But you know you can still you have options if

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you want to interact and participate with the show. If

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you go to Matt connorton dot com slash live, you

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can send me an instant message there. You can chat

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there if you have anything for the program. So so

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you're not shut out from participating, but there is no

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chat because it's weird. I mean, I could have just

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left the feed going on video, but then that's weird

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because then what ends up happening if you do that

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is people when they're in the chat room, instead of

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no audio. How come I can't hear the show. You

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can hear the show. You just have to open up

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another tab and get the audio feed again. Go to

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and click listen live, so you can do that. So

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it's just easier to just close out the video. So

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at WMNH. So today is a Saturday, May seventeen, twenty

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Speaker 8: We've got a killing flaw, a great band from Australia.

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on in just a few minutes. Actually, we're going to

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play one of their tracks and then we're going to

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talk to Killing Flaw Following that. In the second hour,

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and we recently did the American radio premiere of his

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newest single Tomorrow on the show today we actually get

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to talk to him, really looking forward to that. Our

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friends at big GPR and Management over in the UK

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setting that up for us, and we love them.

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the top of the second hour, and then at ten

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Major Moment, a great band from Boston. They were a

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last minute addition to today's show, but we're going to

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the second hour and then in the third hour Moonlight Ride,

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joining us live in studio. And I did see Jesse

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, there's no audio on the video feed. So anyway, but.

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it as such going forward through this morning. This Saturday morning,

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it was kind of cloudy and h when I came in.

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had a lot of nice weather lately. One other quick

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thing too, I did play a little Jerry Robinson to

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open the show, a little hipster dipster and and of

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course Jerry Jerry Robinson. You always hear his voice on

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the intro to the show. If you like that, Well,

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it's gonna be changing. And I've got a surprise but

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because this person has done a lot for us, and

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has done a lot for the show, and has been

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out the Tough Bumps podcast that I've been doing with

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Eric Pilcher. Longtime listeners of this show, of course, are

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familiar with Eric Pilcher. He used to do film reviews

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for us, and perhaps he will again in the future

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of classic film reviews, and and he's he's done a

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lot of other segments with us too over the past

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few years. But we've also been doing a podcast about wrestling,

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uh one of one of the great passions that Eric

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pretty good response on you know, that's completely separate from

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Speaker 6: That's not a radio show.

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Speaker 8: It's strictly a podcast, and you know, we put it

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up on YouTube and all the podcasting networks and it's

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been doing well, doing well.

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think we're gonna be recording episode four. So so thank

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you everyone again for your support with that. Well, which

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reminds me too, I am wearing my my well. I'm

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pointing to it like the videos working. You can't see it,

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but I am wearing my bf RAID hat Boston's Final

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Raid and Bruce from bf Raid did send me an email. Bruce,

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if you're listening, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to

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you and to your friend who you sent me about

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the about the wrestling podcast, But I will, but I will,

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I promise. It's just been a very very busy week.

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All right, on that note, let's listen to some Killing Flaw.

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I'm gonna play this great track. This is called Friends,

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Killing Flaw all the way from Australia. We've had guests

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on the show before from Australia, but it's been a

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very long time, so this will be really cool.

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to these guys. So here it is. This is Friends

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and the band is Killing Flaw.

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Speaker 3: Why pay well well, pray.

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Speaker 6: So young and.

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Speaker 9: Sold must folk to the bathing nothing to.

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We'll think about it.

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Speaker 9: Say the thing Father at the time. Okay, say WoT you.

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Speaker 6: Say about fast.

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Speaker 3: Bad now older? Whow how the hell hell it to? Yaya?

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Say the thing fam the time day yay, don't get you.

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a fade out like that, you're supposed to talk, right,

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I think, uh, Rob from Killing Flaws here, Rob?

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Speaker 1: Is that you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yes, mate, awesome, awesome, it's that.

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is kind of new to us here.

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Speaker 6: But welcome to the program.

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Speaker 6: Who's with you, Nathan?

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Speaker 10: Good?

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Speaker 6: I might yeah, I'm the drum Oh, good.

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Speaker 8: Morning, Good morning guys. Hey, listen, I love that. I

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love that track so much. It's big, it's epic, it's

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I can hear. I'm really curious to know about influences

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a lot of you know, sort of like old blues

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like a sixties rock vibe in there. But it's also

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more blues based rock influence in something, but it also

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gets loud and heavy and aggressive and it you guys

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have really kind of perfected that. At least that's what

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my ears are telling me listening to a track like that.

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We just played Friends of course, uh the US release

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and uh, really really good. Can you can you guys,

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let's start there. Can you guys tell me about your

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influences with Killing Flaw?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Yes, sure, Sorry, we've got a crazy e just be

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with me coming through.

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Speaker 6: You're you're you're cutting, you're cutting in and out a

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little bit.

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Speaker 10: Rob okay.

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Speaker 11: Uh so yeah, our influences pretty much, uh you know,

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sort of the Petrios.

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Speaker 10: And Short in the nineties. Uh sound God, Alison Chains

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deaf times.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm sorry, so I heard I heard a nineties

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sound guard Alison Chains. You guys are cutting it out

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a little bit, but I'm getting some of it. But yeah,

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I can, I can definitely hear all that in there.

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And you guys are you're a trio correct power trio basically, yes.

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Speaker 6: How long have you been around?

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Speaker 8: Because you've got of very your sound is mature in

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a way that I suspect that Killing Flaw has been

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around for a bit, but but how long is how

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long has this band existed?

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Speaker 12: Then it's been around maybe yes, but have been very active,

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been playing for twenty in different bands?

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Speaker 10: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm missing a lot of what you're saying, unfortunately, guys,

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But yeah, it sounds like you've been around, been around

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around four years as h as killing flaw. I'm wondering,

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is there like, do you have any Are you having

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a slow internet connection there by any chance?

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Speaker 6: Or I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 10: That's delay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's just cutting in and out. I'm missing

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a lot of what you're saying. We can, we can,

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we can try for a few more minutes. Maybe it'll

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maybe it'll get better. But you guys, uh are you

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having a lot of success there in Australia.

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Speaker 10: Uh yeah, we're sort of. Uh we're getting out there

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in the mind and playing around as much as.

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys can hear me. I'm

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gonna actually I'm gonna play another track here. Uh, we're

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we're missing. I can't hear these guys. It's cutting out

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so much. I'm actually gonna play We'll play another track

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from these guys. And I'm gonna just send them a

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message and see if there's a way that maybe another

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way we can do this.

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Speaker 6: Let's see. Let's play this, Let's play I Am. This

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is another single from from Killing Fla.

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Speaker 4: Check this out, walk in the day, won't be friends,

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had a face.

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Speaker 1: Loves down there Goddy only men.

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Speaker 4: There a.

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Speaker 1: Time, Sun, sir.

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Speaker 2: A babe, that's things about three days day, give me

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sun till we walk watching.

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Speaker 8: Oh that riff is so good. Okay, if you're just

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joining us, we've got Killing Fly with us. Let's try again.

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, are you there?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you then?

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Speaker 8: Oh this already sounds so much better. Yes, yes, welcome,

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Oh perfect perfect. I'm so glad because I really would

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have been bummed if I didn't get to talk to

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you guys. Okay, so, if you're just joining, we have

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Killing Flaw. They are all the way from Australia. Where

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in Australia are you, guys?

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Speaker 1: Not?

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Speaker 6: Not that I know Australia that well, the geography of it,

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but I am curious.

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Speaker 10: A little place called the Blue Mountains.

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Speaker 6: The Blue Mountains, yeah and a half west of Sydney.

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Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, what's the music scene like there, so

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you're so you're only an hour and a half from Sydney,

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music scene in Sydney, Australia, right, A lot of bands.

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Speaker 11: Yes, it's pretty pretty average at the moment, to be honest,

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is it really?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Do you guys, Stan, do you guys kind of stand

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out because what you're doing, Like I was saying earlier,

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and I couldn't hear you guys very well before. I'm

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not sure how well you could hear me, but I

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was talking about how, you know, you guys have have

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that sort of blues based you know, there's a lot

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of sixties rock influence there, but also it gets really heavy.

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Not so much with that track I Am, but with

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that song friends, you really hear it, you know, the

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first single that we played, and I don't hear a

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lot of bands that can really kind of pull that

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off that can you know, they can put in that

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that blues rock influence but also gets so heavy and

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aggressive with it but still make it sound natural. And

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I'm wondering, I mean, do you guys really kind of

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stand out in the scene? There are there other bands

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that are able to pull off what you do. I

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suspect that there aren't many.

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Speaker 11: Uh, yeah, it's a good question. I think it kind

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of comes down to the fact that, you know, myself,

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I'm sort of come from the you know, the blues thing,

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you a, Hendrik Stevie Ray and the boys, you know,

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basically come from you know, a heavier background. Yeah, it

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kind of works, you know, I'll bring in sort of

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blues based off and then it just ends up becoming

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quite heavy, which iry and make it Yeah, yeah do.

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Speaker 8: It Do you intend to do that or does it

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just going to happen like like like yeah, that that's

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the that's the idea is to make it heavy.

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Speaker 10: One hundred percent. Well, well, if it works, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I was fifteen when the nineties hit,

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you know, so grunge is a big part of you know,

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my teenagers, so you know that leaves a real imprint

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on you.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: So I guess I just, you know, I had the

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mindset of going forward and we all kind of have

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the same idea that we we just want to keep

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it interesting.

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Speaker 10: Right right, So you know, by shifting you know, a

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few genres and.

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Speaker 11: You know, sort of win songs is kind of something

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that we seem to be doing a lot of these days. Yeah,

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you know, uh, what'd beat you a long step?

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Speaker 8: Is No, that's great, that's great. We should uh and

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and by the way too, because again we couldn't hear

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that well. Are there are there two of you joining

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us this morning? There may have been a third person

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and I just missed the missed it because again we

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couldn't hear very well.

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Speaker 10: No, it's it's uh so yeah, it's uh knife AND's

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here as.

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Speaker 8: Well, Rob and Nathan. Okay, Nathan, you're the drummer, correct, Okay,

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Just want that's what I thought. I just want to

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make sure now that I can know that I can

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hear you guys so well. Awesome, awesome. I'm curious too

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because obviously so you're a I don't know, in the US,

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we often use the term power trio. I don't know

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if you call it that there, but but for whenever

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I hear a band with three people in it that

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has a sound, I mean, you guys sound like a

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five piece band with There's a lot of textures and

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layers to what you're doing. Obviously, is that is that

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difficult to replicate live? That big sound or or does

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that also come just kind of naturally.

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Speaker 7: It seems to come naturally. I think we sort of

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a better live acts if that makes sense then.

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Speaker 6: Like on record, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, but you have

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you know, Rob has.

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Speaker 7: A great time and Dave the vice players has great

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time as well. So there's just walls of sound.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I can imagine. I can imagine.

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Speaker 8: Who are as as far as you know, we talked

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a little bit about nineties grunge. I'm curious who some

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of the influences are. I know that in the United

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States if you if you talk about grunge and you

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talk about uh, if you mentioned Australia, you know, Silverchair

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comes up as as one of the bands that people

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kind of really remember from that era.

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Speaker 6: Here are they? Are they still around? A silver Chair

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still active?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: They not?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: Okay, they had a they had a couple of big

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hits in the US.

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Speaker 8: But are but are they? Are they a big influence

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on you guys specifically? I don't think you sound I personally,

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and I'm not just saying this because you're on the show.

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I think you sound a lot better than Silverchair. You know, Silverchair,

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I could Silverchair, I could.

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Speaker 6: Kind of take them or leave them. But I I

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could listen to you guys all day long.

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Speaker 10: We could listen to you all day long too, Matte

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oh going.

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Speaker 6: Oh thank you? Yes, No, no, seriously though, I mean

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I love what you're doing. But I am curious. I mean,

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is Silverchair an influence on you guys?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 10: No, respectively?

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Speaker 5: No, no.

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Speaker 11: So you know, for me, Sound Garden was a big one.

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Alison Chains was a big one. Yeah, you know, they

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kind of really impacted me, uh sort of as a.

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Speaker 10: Fifteen year old. Yeah, and still do.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know it's uh it's caught else anniversary

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of his passing.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I believe today and yeah, so it's that's

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you know, that's a massive loss.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. What is the what is the live situation?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 6: There? Do you guys? Are are you playing a lot

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of shows? Are you touring or.

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Speaker 5: Not?

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Speaker 11: At the moment the scene, he is kind of really flaky.

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So but we are going to Japan early March next year.

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Speaker 6: Very cool.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so we're really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 11: I think we've got a couple of blues festivals coming

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up as well, but we're just sort of waiting to

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get confirmation.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's been a lot of.

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Speaker 11: Just you know, in the studio kind of getting you know,

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our sound together on records to get it out there,

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and then now we just you know, getting out there

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and getting behind it.

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Speaker 8: It's interesting you mentioned a couple of blues festivals, and

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that's something that occurs to me about your sound, is that, yeah,

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you can kind of fit in. You can kind of

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fit in different places, right, Like you can play a

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blues festival, but you can also play, you know, a

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heavy rock festival. I don't know, maybe not metal, but

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certainly heavy rock, right, Like you've got you've got a

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sound that kind of lends itself to to you know,

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be able to fit in with some different genres and

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some different concepts. It would seem like right, And I

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don't know. I'm curious too if you do you approach it,

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like depending on the kind of show or the type

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of crowd that you're playing for, do you kind of

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adjust what you're.

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Speaker 6: Doing at all?

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Speaker 8: Like like if you play a blues festival, I assume

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if you play a song like friends, you're not getting

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super heavy with it necessarily, or maybe you are.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you are and testing the limits. I don't know,

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I'm curious about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 11: Our first show was actually at at the Portland Blues

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Festival over Heat, and were kind of spoiled because this

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is a really great gig and it you know, we

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weren't sure how the heaviest stuff was going to go,

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you know, sort of go down amongst everybody.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but it was just beyond expectation of.

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Speaker 11: The responsor you see from the crowd, Like, yeah, it

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was still kind of living off that to be honest.

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really cool. That's really cool.

479
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,559
Speaker 8: I mean that must be I mean that's very validating,

480
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:35,840
right if you're if you're in a situation you know,

481
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,960
it's one thing to go and play a show where

482
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,119
you know that people are going to be really into

483
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,400
what you're doing, and that's that's great, and that's part

484
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,159
of why you do it, right, But it's even better

485
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,519
when you're in a situation where maybe you're not sure,

486
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,920
maybe you've got a little bit of doubt, you know,

487
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,679
is this crowd going to really like what we do?

488
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,480
And then you do it and they love it, and

489
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:56,320
then it's that's very validating. And I can see why

490
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,360
that would give you a lot of kind of a

491
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239
lot of buoyancy going forward, you know, the reaffirmation that

492
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,880
comes from that.

493
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: So that's that's really cool.

494
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,159
Speaker 8: And you said you're going to be doing more of

495
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:06,800
those you've got you said you've got a couple of

496
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,360
blues festivals coming up, right.

497
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, we've got possibly the Threadbow Blues Festival, which will

498
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,559
we miss a lot of the festivals for this year,

499
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:20,039
so we're prominably from January on Woods next year.

500
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 10: It's it's really going to ramp up.

501
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

502
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, we have a real eclectic sort

503
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,599
of range of styles throughout the set.

504
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, We've got a country blues called Yesterday

505
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Blues with.

506
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,519
Speaker 10: Some great harp on there, you know, from a great

507
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:41,639
friend of our, Shane Carter.

508
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 11: We do a bluegrass number called Shame I mean, and

509
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,119
then you've got Friends, which is kind of leans towards

510
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,880
you know, the the seventies sort of rock into into

511
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,559
like a you know, a sort of a sound garden,

512
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,599
that kind of ending, you know, like yeah, so you know,

513
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:05,239
I don't know, maybe we're we've got ADHD can't we

514
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,360
can't decide on where we want to go, but I

515
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,920
think it's always going to have blues connotations just purely

516
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,119
because of my playing. Sure, you know, I grew up

517
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,880
with you know, listening to guys like Peter Green and

518
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,400
Mick Taylor and uh, you know, and then Stevie Ray

519
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:27,599
and Jimmy of course, so you know, and then you

520
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,639
throw that over, you know, some rage against the machine

521
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,480
style riffs.

522
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,679
Speaker 10: It's interesting, you know.

523
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:38,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that in there too. I heard I

524
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,559
heard a little rage against the machine in there, and oh,

525
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:42,480
just so good. Yeah, I mean that you're able to

526
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,320
take those.

527
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,159
Speaker 8: Elements and infuse them together is just really good, because

528
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,199
I you know, I've certainly met some bands that have

529
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,519
tried to do something like that and not quite pulled

530
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:51,719
it off the way that you guys are.

531
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,079
Speaker 6: Are you getting traction there? On radio?

532
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 8: I have not you know, what a chris to me

533
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,079
as I'm talking to you, because I'm such a radio nerd,

534
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,360
I have no idea what radio is like in earlier

535
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:02,519
I mean, I can tell you here in the United

536
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:04,679
States we have a lot of you know, classic rock

537
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,599
is a very dominant radio format. Country is a very

538
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:11,960
dominant radio format. Shows that play a lot of what

539
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,280
we're doing here, not not so there's not so many

540
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,440
of these, you know, of course, we do a variety

541
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,920
of genres on the show. But but what what is

542
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,239
it like in Australia? And are you on the radio

543
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,599
in Australia? You should be if you're not, But but

544
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,440
what what's it like there in terms of radio?

545
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 10: Uh, it's no, we don't, we haven't sort of.

546
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 11: It's it's really hard to to break through you know,

547
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:38,920
commercial radio because it's pretty much classic.

548
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:39,199
Speaker 10: Rock here too.

549
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's kind of one of those

550
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,960
things like, uh, you know, if if it goes underground,

551
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,039
I think that's the best, the best way for it,

552
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:50,800
you know, because.

553
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 10: Then it'll gain traction and and uh and and get

554
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:55,039
some legs.

555
00:37:56,559 --> 00:37:59,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that it sounds like the state of

556
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:00,840
radio is similar to the way it is here, and

557
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,280
I think that, uh, you know, fortunately with the Internet,

558
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,320
there are other ways to uh to you know, build

559
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,320
build a following outside of you know, It's what you said,

560
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,880
it's true here too. You know, it's very hard to

561
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,559
crack uh commercial radio, especially if you're a you know,

562
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,039
a new band and you're and you're doing something that

563
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:24,079
doesn't necessarily fit with what what people are used to hearing,

564
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,480
especially and but that's that's that's been true.

565
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 6: I mean that's been true for decades.

566
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 8: You know, people get that's why certain genres obviously rise up,

567
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,800
like when grunge, you know, really got popular, for example,

568
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,239
because we were talking about grunge earlier. Although grunge and

569
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,960
and you know, the Seattle Era and all of that,

570
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:43,639
what was interesting about that is you had a lot

571
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:47,000
of these bands that were sort of put into that category,

572
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,840
but who actually had very different sounds like Alison Chains

573
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,639
and Pearl Jam for example, really don't don't sound anything alike.

574
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,280
But you know, you just label it all all grunge.

575
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,239
But I think that, But yeah, it is very difficult

576
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,840
that commercial radio here in the United States. Uh, college

577
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,559
radio is thriving, and that's a great way to get

578
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:07,960
your music out there. I don't know if it's the

579
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,480
same in Australia. If college radio is really vibrant therein

580
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:14,719
it even exists.

581
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:18,159
Speaker 6: No, no kidding, I've never had it. Yeah, Oh that's

582
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,360
all that breaks my heart.

583
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I think that you know, the equivalent uh

584
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,760
you know to that here for US community radio, which

585
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,079
is and we've had some success there, but.

586
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,199
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we've we've we've had.

587
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 11: More success actually outside of Australia airplay was than what

588
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,000
we've had here.

589
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 8: Oh that's interesting, okay, yeah, but again that's validating too, right.

590
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,920
I mean, if you can get if you can get

591
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,159
airplay outside of your home base, that's awesome.

592
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,559
Speaker 10: The fact that anyone wants to listen to these fantastic.

593
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 6: Very nice and and uh, you guys started in twenty eighteen,

594
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:00,960
is that correct? Is that what the band started?

595
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,679
Speaker 11: Yes, so Nathan, Yeah, it was around then. Yeah, Nathan

596
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,280
and I were playing in a in a in a.

597
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 10: Blues band, and.

598
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,039
Speaker 11: I'd written some songs I've written, come up with some

599
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,559
ideas and it just kind of didn't fit what we

600
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:19,800
were doing in this particular blues band. It was a

601
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,199
straight ahead sort of you know, boogie blues band, and

602
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,880
so Nathan and I started jamming and and then Dave

603
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:30,039
we brought Date or Dave came in and then yeah,

604
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:31,960
like literally the first.

605
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,039
Speaker 10: Jam we had we wrote some songs.

606
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you did.

607
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:40,039
Speaker 11: We just knew straight away that the chemistry was there,

608
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:43,719
and we were all, you know, brothers before that. We're

609
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,519
all friends and and sort of known each other through

610
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:51,079
the scene. So you know, it's it's great to get

611
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,800
to do this, but it's even better to get to

612
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,719
do it with your mates.

613
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, absolutely. So much of what makes a band

614
00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,000
works is obviously the music itself, but so much of

615
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:04,960
it too, is just the interpersonal relationships involved and how

616
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,320
do you get along and and you know, are you

617
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,400
all in the same page? And when when you get

618
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,360
together and it comes together quickly like that, then you

619
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,519
know you've really got something, you know. I mean, you know,

620
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,000
I've been in a lot of bands, and you know

621
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,880
pretty quickly you know whether it's gonna work or not

622
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,800
work creatively, because if it doesn't work personally, it's not

623
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,519
likely to work creatively. And you know, sometimes bands have

624
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,599
a lot of success and a lot of notoriety, and

625
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,360
then you know, things start to break down on an

626
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,760
interpersonal relationship within the band, and then they'll talk about how,

627
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,360
oh that that creative tension actually works for us, and

628
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,480
it's like, eh, does it really?

629
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,559
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you know, I think it's better.

630
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,679
It's it's just better when everyone's getting along, right, Yeah,

631
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,280
that's right.

632
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:53,079
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're all about just hominy and uh yeah, and

633
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,079
and just you know, everything kind of just.

634
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 10: Things crusy and easy, because.

635
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, I just think that you know, that that tends

636
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:05,960
to you know, have can have a negative effect on

637
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,440
the music.

638
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:11,199
Speaker 10: You know, everyone's got to be sync. It's very easy band.

639
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well that's good.

640
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,519
Speaker 8: And when you're when there's only three of you, that

641
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,039
makes it easier too, right, because the more, yeah, the

642
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,800
more people in the band, it's like, uh, the more

643
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,880
you got to work around everyone's schedules and whatnot, and

644
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,599
uh yeah, it's just uh, you know, less, less is

645
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,239
more sometimes. But like I said, you guys have such

646
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,400
a big sound. It's it's great. By the way, So

647
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:36,480
circling back to Japan, you mentioned going to Japan. How

648
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:37,239
did that come about?

649
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:39,639
Speaker 3: Uh?

650
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 10: Uh, friends of ours did the tour.

651
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 11: Us mid last year and they just had such a

652
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,800
great experience. So yeah, we they put us in touch

653
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,320
with the guys who booked the tours. So yeah, it's

654
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,440
just a club tour there through Tokyo and a song

655
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,000
and a few other places.

656
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 6: Very cool.

657
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 10: We're really looking forward to just getting out of the

658
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,559
country and you know, just just doing it somewhere else.

659
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

660
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you never know what can come from that too.

661
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,280
There's a lot of I mean, I can tell you

662
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,519
you know, there's definitely some American bands that uh that

663
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,559
actually well, I think the classic example, of course that

664
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,360
everyone knows is Cheap Trick, you know, live at Buddhican.

665
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,000
I mean that was kind of there. You know, they

666
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:31,880
got big in Japan first and then really broke in

667
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,519
the US. And then there's even I forget who it

668
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,320
is now there's a band that has a song called

669
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,400
big in Japan. That's about that, but I forget everyone

670
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,239
now who the band is, but maybe you guys remember,

671
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,920
but now, but.

672
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 6: That's really cool. That's that's really cool. Good for you guys.

673
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,719
And then uh, now, oh, by the way, so these

674
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,159
songs that we've been playing here today, are these part

675
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,199
of an album or have you just been releasing a

676
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,199
series of singles?

677
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:58,079
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we've really we've released a uh, you know,

678
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,400
five singles so far.

679
00:43:59,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

680
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,599
Speaker 11: But what we're sort of in the process of doing

681
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,199
is we're back in the studio in a couple of

682
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,159
weeks to cut the rest of the tracks to just

683
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,000
kind of put an album together to drop before we

684
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,119
go to Japan, okay, and just to kind of round out,

685
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,239
you know, and finish off this sort of era of songs.

686
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,079
And because I feel like, you know, we you know,

687
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,320
the direction starting to shift, even though you know it'll

688
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:37,960
you know, it's going slightly heavier, I think, but it's

689
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,400
still you know, it has the blues elements and pretty

690
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,719
much whatever we decided to deviate you know at the

691
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,920
time genre wise.

692
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Well, great, well I look

693
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,920
forward to that. By the way, So when you release

694
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,280
the album, this is another thing I'm curious about in

695
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,559
terms of how this works in Australia. So in the

696
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:03,480
United States, over the past few years, physical media has.

697
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:04,519
Speaker 6: Really made a comeback.

698
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,159
Speaker 8: Well, Vinyl of course never went away, but a lot

699
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,599
of the guests that we have on the show are

700
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,000
releasing CDs again, and five years ago, six years ago,

701
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,480
that wasn't necessarily the case. What's it like there, and

702
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:19,000
do you plan to release when when you put the

703
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,639
album out, well that will you have a physical CD

704
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,920
release for that or will it just be streaming or

705
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,599
maybe you don't even know yet. I don't know, but uh,

706
00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:28,960
but but I'm curious the state of things there in

707
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:30,480
terms of that physical media.

708
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, seems like way fog Ye is behind then, because

709
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:38,440
I don't there's not really people putting the state's out.

710
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,159
But yeah, vinyl for sure, So yeah, our plan was

711
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,000
just to go strike to vinyl.

712
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 6: Oh, then go straight to vinyl on.

713
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,079
Speaker 10: Spotify and what you know streaming.

714
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 6: Oh oh cool. Okay, so you may not do a CD,

715
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,719
but you're going to do a vinyl that's cool.

716
00:45:56,679 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, because really liked the idea of an album and

717
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:03,119
it's just I don't know, you go to gigs now

718
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:08,920
and no one's even selling CDs, so it just seems

719
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:12,800
kind of like we'll just end up with a thousand

720
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,039
CDs in our garage.

721
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

722
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: The records people are a fan that, like real fans

723
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,920
will buy a record, spending a bit more and it's.

724
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 10: A nice thing to have.

725
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,599
Speaker 6: Absolutely and nothing.

726
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:30,039
Speaker 11: So the mindset to with the singles is it is

727
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,960
a bit of a singles market at the moment, you know,

728
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,880
just for bands that are kind of you know, sort

729
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,599
of at this sort of level just trying to keep relevant,

730
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,519
you know, with their play and just keeping your name

731
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,760
out there. So I mean, if you drop a whole album,

732
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
you know, you drop a single and then you drop

733
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,480
the whole album, well that's kind of you know, twelve

734
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:56,360
months work. They're kind of laid out, you know, sort

735
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,360
of in one sitting. Whereas the way we've done it.

736
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,679
We've we've been able to count it just drip fade.

737
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a great.

738
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 6: Way to put it.

739
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, and a very uh common strategy used now or

740
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,599
I've heard of referred to to as the waterfall effect,

741
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:15,119
where because it's really the inverse of what it used

742
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:16,840
to be. You know, and I'm an industry guy, so

743
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,079
you know, it used to be obviously, album comes out

744
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,400
and then singles or well actually first single would come

745
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,360
out six to eight weeks before the album, but then

746
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:28,760
the second, third, fourth, you know, if you're that lucky,

747
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,159
the rest of the singles come out after the album,

748
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:33,280
Whereas now it's kind of the inverse where a lot

749
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,159
of artists will release a series of singles ahead of

750
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:38,159
the album, like all the singles come out, and then

751
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:41,559
those singles eventually form an album or an EP. So

752
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,599
it's kind of the you know, the Internet and social

753
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:46,880
media and everything, because you've got to constantly feed that machine, uh,

754
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,639
to stay as you put it, you know, to stay relevant.

755
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,599
So now it's kind of the you know what's nice

756
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,239
about that though, too, is so if you're in a

757
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,960
situation where if you're putting out singles and you haven't

758
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,519
decided yet about it album. If the singles aren't doing anything,

759
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,239
if you're not getting anything on Spotify or anything.

760
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:05,679
Speaker 9: Uh.

761
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,679
Speaker 6: And when I say get anything, I mean plays. I

762
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,239
don't mean money, because there's no money.

763
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 10: But if.

764
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 8: You're if you're not getting any traction, then you know, okay,

765
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,239
well maybe maybe we need to change things up. Maybe

766
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,199
we won't put out an entire album of singles in

767
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,880
this style if if this isn't working, you know, depending

768
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,159
on what your goals are and and whatnot. So I

769
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,840
kind of I kind of like the new model that

770
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,239
that we have now, where it's singles first and then

771
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,239
they ultimately become an album or maybe not, and it

772
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,199
kind of gives you more flexibility long term.

773
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're really adamant, Nathan and I are very adamant

774
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,480
about you know, putting them.

775
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 10: You know, in an album format.

776
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,599
Speaker 11: You know, that's how we grew up listening to albums, uh,

777
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,840
you know, from start to Phoenish and and you know,

778
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,519
they tell a story, uh, you know, and you know

779
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:03,800
it's a journey. So yeah, that's definitely a goal that

780
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,400
we said that we would get to a certain point

781
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,719
and then we would go, Okay, let's let's put these

782
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,920
together and see what the you know what they.

783
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 6: Say, yep, yep.

784
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,119
Speaker 10: Yeah.

785
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,599
Speaker 7: It is interesting because in the past, it's true that

786
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:22,760
we would have made the album and then released, like

787
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,960
you said, like maybe one single and then the album,

788
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,320
whereas now we haven't even finished the album, but we're

789
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,760
able to release songs. Yeah, so it's kind of works

790
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:35,159
in our favor because we're a bit lazy, no.

791
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,679
Speaker 8: But it also it also helps to right in terms

792
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,599
of you get the you know, because I know just

793
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:43,239
from my own experience as a musician, when you create something,

794
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,400
when you record something that you're really happy with, you

795
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,880
want to share it with the world, and this way

796
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,119
you get to do that instead of having to wait

797
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,840
for however long.

798
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because that's hard.

799
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 8: It's hard to sit on something, something that you're proud

800
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,199
of and something that you want to share with people.

801
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:05,480
It's hard to just sit on that, you know. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,

802
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:07,960
in a moment, we're gonna play when we when we

803
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,840
wrap up the conversation, I'm going to end the segment

804
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,679
with this track, storm Walker, And this is the brand

805
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,199
new single.

806
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,519
Speaker 6: Correct, this is the newest one?

807
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yeah, this is our latest release.

808
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,599
Speaker 6: Did this just come out like like yesterday or something

809
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:25,920
or this.

810
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,679
Speaker 10: Week or no sorry, November November.

811
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:35,119
Speaker 8: November okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, another great. I love

812
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:36,800
all the all the tracks you sent us. These are

813
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,119
all really good. But anything we should know about this

814
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:39,960
before we play it.

815
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 10: We're really proud of it.

816
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's definitely you know that the further

817
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,559
we go into this process recording, the more we're sort

818
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,760
of really finding ourselves sound wise, you know. And this

819
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,320
was also a dedication to a friend of mine who passed,

820
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,880
you know, during COVID in another state.

821
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 10: We had lockdown laws here. You know, I couldn't kind of.

822
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,679
Speaker 11: Get there to sort of to see him before he passed,

823
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,440
and so you know, this was kind of you know

824
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:17,599
that this is dedicated to him. So okay, and I

825
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,079
know wherever, wherever he is, he'd be loving it. So yeah,

826
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:23,760
so it was there was you know, it was a

827
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,679
great you know, it was a great song to sort

828
00:51:26,679 --> 00:51:30,920
of get out there. And so Dave, Dave, the bass

829
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,920
player in the band, he basically recorded everything we've done

830
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,199
so far because he's he's he's got a studio down

831
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,519
there and in the Hawksbury studio Blues and yeah, he's.

832
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 10: You know he's done all the production, mixed, master produced.

833
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

834
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 10: You know, and then you know, comes in and lays

835
00:51:54,519 --> 00:52:00,440
down some killer bass, so in five minutes. Yeah, he's

836
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:00,960
an asshole.

837
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:06,159
Speaker 11: So but but yeah, I mean, you know, the great

838
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:08,199
thing is about you know, you know, I'll bring in

839
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,559
an idea and then between the three of us, you know,

840
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,199
we turn them into songs. So you know, and that's

841
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,239
why I think the sound is is so three dimensional

842
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,400
if I could.

843
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,199
Speaker 6: Say that, Yeah, that's a good way of putting yeah.

844
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:29,639
Speaker 10: Because everyone's bringing their own you know, flavor to it.

845
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, So we're gonna play that in a moment.

846
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,880
And by the way, guys, what should people know about

847
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,679
where to keep up with everything that you're doing. Where's

848
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,519
the best place to go online so that our listeners

849
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:41,760
can keep up with Killen Fly?

850
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, sure, we are on We're on Facebook and Instagram,

851
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,639
We're on YouTube. We have a couple of clips up

852
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:55,920
on YouTube, but yeah, that's pretty much where we're most active. Okay,

853
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:58,800
you know all our releases are on or streaming platforms.

854
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,920
So yeah, to you guys listening, dig it, shoot us

855
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,519
a shoot us a follow, follow and a lock and

856
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,199
and and shoot us a message.

857
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 8: And let us know you're digging it absolutely absolutely well, guys,

858
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,400
Rob and Nathan, thank you so much for joining us

859
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:17,440
this morning on the program. In a moment, we're going

860
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,559
to hit that track and uh, but I appreciate and

861
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,960
I'm glad we were able to work through the technical issue.

862
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,719
And we just recently started using what'sapp here. We used

863
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,480
to use Skype, but Skype apparently is no more, so

864
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:30,519
we're but what's happen.

865
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 6: What's app is a.

866
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 8: Little little wonky, but we figured it out and it's working.

867
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,079
So so I appreciate, Uh, I appreciate getting to talk

868
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:40,679
to you. I would have been really disappointed if I

869
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,000
didn't get to talk to you guys and have a

870
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:45,119
full conversation because I love your sound, love what you

871
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:45,760
guys are doing.

872
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 10: And uh, and I thanks Matt.

873
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,039
Speaker 11: It's it's look, it's uh, it's it's it's almost to

874
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,320
be not he So we would have been really disappointed

875
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,360
we hadn't got to talk to you.

876
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for

877
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,760
having us on the show.

878
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 8: And yeah, really absolutely absolutely friend absolutely you as well,

879
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,159
and we will do it again in the future.

880
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 6: We're gonna hit that track, but I'll let you guys go.

881
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,440
Thanks guys, look for it.

882
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 10: Thanks Maddy, thank you, you got it.

883
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 6: Bye bye. All right.

884
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:18,559
Speaker 8: That was Rob and Nathan from the band Killing Flaw.

885
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,920
We're gonna play that track storm Walker in just a moment.

886
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,920
And if you are listening live on Saturday morning, uh,

887
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
don't go away. We have plenty more to come coming up.

888
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:29,320
In just a few minutes. We're gonna be talking with

889
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,519
Ryan Redwood all the way from the UK. We'll see

890
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,079
how Skype works with a UK guest, I mean, not Skype.

891
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,440
I'm sorry, I'm living in the past. Uh, WhatsApp. We'll

892
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,559
see how that works. I'm sure it'll be fine. And

893
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:42,639
then uh, and then of course, also in the second

894
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:44,719
hour after we after we talked to Ryan, we're gonna

895
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,679
be talking with Major moment from Boston.

896
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

897
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 8: They well, uh, we're gonna use what's app for that too. Actually,

898
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,039
we'll see how how that works. That should be really easy.

899
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,039
And then uh, and then in the third hour, moonlight

900
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:00,679
Ride will be with us. But right now, now, let's

901
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,239
play this. This is storm Walker. The band is Killing

902
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Flaw all the way from Australia.

903
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,079
Speaker 6: This is so good. I love these guys. Check this out.

904
00:55:12,599 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: M h, it's mm hm.

905
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 9: You feel like yet day I heard say, when I

906
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:16,239
heard to say, brother.

907
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 3: Seize.

908
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,079
Speaker 1: Foot in the kings.

909
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:38,639
Speaker 3: And now.

910
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 12: If you do.

911
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: For the king.

912
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:51,519
Speaker 3: All the call.

913
00:56:53,960 --> 00:57:15,639
Speaker 5: Well h.

914
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: Will and let me crack.

915
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 9: You can say goodbye and say goodbye.

916
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: My brother, and never old. You'll never old.

917
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 5: You go.

918
00:57:57,239 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Or in the kingdom the name for in the king and.

919
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,119
Speaker 1: Not to go.

920
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,519
Speaker 2: The twin.

921
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,639
Speaker 10: Ballman who.

922
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: When he thought.

923
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:38,719
Speaker 1: That you don't recurred in the