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Speaker 8: We have we have an artist from Australia, then we
have somebody from the UK beaming in. Then we've got
somebody from Boston, which is part of the United States,
of course, and then in the third hour we have
somebody joining us live in studio. But speaking of live
streaming options, so I've just been alerted that, for whatever reason,
this happens once in a while, there is no audio
going out on the video feed. We do, of course,
also stream the show live to Facebook, for example, and
there is no audio on the Facebook feed, and that
happens occasionally. I have no idea why. Some sort of
weird software glitch. So there is no video component for
today's program. This is audio only.
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left the feed going on video, but then that's weird
because then what ends up happening if you do that
is people when they're in the chat room, instead of
talking about you know, instead of just opening up another
browser tab, for example, and listening to the audio, they
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Matt conorton dot com, slash live or wnhradio dot org
and click listen live, so you can do that. So
it's just easier to just close out the video. So
we just want to have video today. But again it
is first and foremost a radio show, so we shall
go forth and actually, with the exception of the guests
coming in in the third hour, it's gonna be all
you know, I'm all alone anyway here in the studio
at WMNH. So today is a Saturday, May seventeen, twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 6: We do have a very exciting show for you.
Speaker 8: We've got a killing flaw, a great band from Australia.
I love this band there. We're going to get them
on in just a few minutes. Actually, we're going to
play one of their tracks and then we're going to
talk to Killing Flaw Following that. In the second hour,
Ryan Redwood is going to be joining us from the UK,
and we recently did the American radio premiere of his
newest single Tomorrow on the show today we actually get
to talk to him, really looking forward to that. Our
friends at big GPR and Management over in the UK
setting that up for us, and we love them.
Speaker 6: They bring us a ton of great guests.
Speaker 8: So we'll be talking to Ryan Ren Ryan Redwood at
the top of the second hour, and then at ten
thirty am Eastern time, we're going to be speaking with
Major Moment, a great band from Boston. They were a
last minute addition to today's show, but we're going to
be talking to them. They're going to give us a
call or we're going to call them however it works,
and we'll talk to them.
Speaker 6: What a great band and they're doing some really big things.
Speaker 8: So and they've got a big show coming up a
couple of days that they're going to talk and they
have a brand new single that just came out, So
they've got a lot going on. So major moment from Boston.
They're gonna be joining us at the midway point in
the second hour and then in the third hour Moonlight Ride,
joining us live in studio. And I did see Jesse
Johnson in the I think it was in the YouTube
chat before I close that out because like I said,
there's no video.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, there's no audio on the video feed. So anyway, but.
Speaker 8: Again, it is a radio show and we shall treat
it as such going forward through this morning. This Saturday morning,
it was kind of cloudy and h when I came in.
Cloudy and h but hopefully the sun comes out. We've
had a lot of nice weather lately. One other quick
thing too, I did play a little Jerry Robinson to
open the show, a little hipster dipster and and of
course Jerry Jerry Robinson. You always hear his voice on
the intro to the show. If you like that, Well,
it's gonna be changing. And I've got a surprise but
can't can't unveil yet, but let's just say we're going
to be getting you know, we like to upgrade occasionally.
The music, and a certain individual who has contributed to
the program in the past is going to be giving
us a brand new theme song to use, which I'm
very excited about.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say who it is yet.
Speaker 8: I will tell you, of course, when the time comes,
because this person has done a lot for us, and
has done a lot for the show, and has been
a guest on the show a couple of times, and
is a very talented musician and graphic artist and so
on and so forth. So we love this person and
they do great things and love being able to work
with them.
Speaker 6: Again. I'm being a little bit vague.
Speaker 8: Because I will address all of that when it has unveiled,
when it is ready, when the finished product is ready.
Speaker 6: But it's cool to you know, every couple of years
or so kind of change things up. Let's see. Oh
one other thing too.
Speaker 8: By the way, thank you to everyone who's been checking
out the Tough Bumps podcast that I've been doing with
Eric Pilcher. Longtime listeners of this show, of course, are
familiar with Eric Pilcher. He used to do film reviews
for us, and perhaps he will again in the future
of classic film reviews, and and he's he's done a
lot of other segments with us too over the past
few years. But we've also been doing a podcast about wrestling,
uh one of one of the great passions that Eric
and I share, called tough Bumps, and it's getting a
pretty good response on you know, that's completely separate from
WM ANDH.
Speaker 6: That's not a radio show.
Speaker 8: It's strictly a podcast, and you know, we put it
up on YouTube and all the podcasting networks and it's
been doing well, doing well.
Speaker 6: We're off to a good start with it, so thank
you everyone who supports that.
Speaker 8: We're actually gonna be later this afternoon, late afternoon, I
think we're gonna be recording episode four. So so thank
you everyone again for your support with that. Well, which
reminds me too, I am wearing my my well. I'm
pointing to it like the videos working. You can't see it,
but I am wearing my bf RAID hat Boston's Final
Raid and Bruce from bf Raid did send me an email. Bruce,
if you're listening, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to
you and to your friend who you sent me about
the about the wrestling podcast, But I will, but I will,
I promise. It's just been a very very busy week.
All right, on that note, let's listen to some Killing Flaw.
I'm gonna play this great track. This is called Friends,
and we're gonna play this and then we're gonna get
Killing Flaw all the way from Australia. We've had guests
on the show before from Australia, but it's been a
very long time, so this will be really cool.
Speaker 6: And I love their sound. Really looking forward to talking
to these guys. So here it is. This is Friends
and the band is Killing Flaw.
Speaker 3: Why pay well well, pray.
Speaker 6: So young and.
Speaker 9: Sold must folk to the bathing nothing to.
Speaker 3: Long at back gasy that did nothing? Un just that down.
We'll think about it.
Speaker 9: Say the thing Father at the time. Okay, say WoT you.
Speaker 6: Say about fast.
Speaker 3: Bad now older? Whow how the hell hell it to? Yaya?
Say the thing fam the time day yay, don't get you.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that is epic. I didn't even want
to talk over the end of it.
Speaker 8: You know, on radio you're supposed to when you got
a fade out like that, you're supposed to talk, right,
But I didn't even want to talk over the end
of it.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to let the.
Speaker 8: Fade go because it's so that song is so good
and it's just it's just so big and epic.
Speaker 6: And let's see who we've got on the line here.
I think, uh, Rob from Killing Flaws here, Rob?
Speaker 1: Is that you?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yes, mate, awesome, awesome, it's that.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 8: We just recently started using WhatsApp because Skype is no more,
and uh, I'm always relieved when it works because WhatsApp
is kind of new to us here.
Speaker 6: But welcome to the program.
Speaker 10: Thanks man. I've got but Nathan with me here too.
Speaker 6: Who's with you, Nathan?
Speaker 10: Good?
Speaker 6: I might yeah, I'm the drum Oh, good.
Speaker 8: Morning, Good morning guys. Hey, listen, I love that. I
love that track so much. It's big, it's epic, it's
I can hear. I'm really curious to know about influences
because I hear a lot there obviously. You know, there's
a lot of you know, sort of like old blues
and and uh, you know, and kind of a there's
like a sixties rock vibe in there. But it's also
but it gets really heavy and uh and that's interesting
to me too. And I love stuff like that where
you can hear you can hear these sort of sixties
more blues based rock influence in something, but it also
gets loud and heavy and aggressive and it you guys
have really kind of perfected that. At least that's what
my ears are telling me listening to a track like that.
We just played Friends of course, uh the US release
and uh, really really good. Can you can you guys,
let's start there. Can you guys tell me about your
influences with Killing Flaw?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 10: Yes, sure, Sorry, we've got a crazy e just be
with me coming through.
Speaker 6: You're you're you're cutting, you're cutting in and out a
little bit.
Speaker 10: Rob okay.
Speaker 11: Uh so yeah, our influences pretty much, uh you know,
sort of the Petrios.
Speaker 10: And Short in the nineties. Uh sound God, Alison Chains
deaf times.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm sorry, so I heard I heard a nineties
sound guard Alison Chains. You guys are cutting it out
a little bit, but I'm getting some of it. But yeah,
I can, I can definitely hear all that in there.
And you guys are you're a trio correct power trio basically, yes.
Speaker 6: How long have you been around?
Speaker 8: Because you've got of very your sound is mature in
a way that I suspect that Killing Flaw has been
around for a bit, but but how long is how
long has this band existed?
Speaker 12: Then it's been around maybe yes, but have been very active,
been playing for twenty in different bands?
Speaker 10: Does that make sense?
Speaker 8: I'm I'm missing a lot of what you're saying, unfortunately, guys,
But yeah, it sounds like you've been around, been around
around four years as h as killing flaw. I'm wondering,
is there like, do you have any Are you having
a slow internet connection there by any chance?
Speaker 6: Or I'm just wondering.
Speaker 10: That's delay.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's just cutting in and out. I'm missing
a lot of what you're saying. We can, we can,
we can try for a few more minutes. Maybe it'll
maybe it'll get better. But you guys, uh are you
having a lot of success there in Australia.
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, we're sort of. Uh we're getting out there
in the mind and playing around as much as.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys can hear me. I'm
gonna actually I'm gonna play another track here. Uh, we're
we're missing. I can't hear these guys. It's cutting out
so much. I'm actually gonna play We'll play another track
from these guys. And I'm gonna just send them a
message and see if there's a way that maybe another
way we can do this.
Speaker 6: Let's see. Let's play this, Let's play I Am. This
is another single from from Killing Fla.
Speaker 4: Check this out, walk in the day, won't be friends,
had a face.
Speaker 1: Loves down there Goddy only men.
Speaker 4: There a.
Speaker 1: Time, Sun, sir.
Speaker 2: A babe, that's things about three days day, give me
sun till we walk watching.
Speaker 8: Oh that riff is so good. Okay, if you're just
joining us, we've got Killing Fly with us. Let's try again.
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, are you there?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you then?
Speaker 8: Oh this already sounds so much better. Yes, yes, welcome,
Oh perfect perfect. I'm so glad because I really would
have been bummed if I didn't get to talk to
you guys. Okay, so, if you're just joining, we have
Killing Flaw. They are all the way from Australia. Where
in Australia are you, guys?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 6: Not that I know Australia that well, the geography of it,
but I am curious.
Speaker 10: A little place called the Blue Mountains.
Speaker 6: The Blue Mountains, yeah and a half west of Sydney.
Speaker 8: Oh okay, okay, what's the music scene like there, so
you're so you're only an hour and a half from Sydney,
So I would imagine it's it's probably a pretty big
music scene in Sydney, Australia, right, A lot of bands.
Speaker 11: Yes, it's pretty pretty average at the moment, to be honest,
is it really?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Do you guys, Stan, do you guys kind of stand
out because what you're doing, Like I was saying earlier,
and I couldn't hear you guys very well before. I'm
not sure how well you could hear me, but I
was talking about how, you know, you guys have have
that sort of blues based you know, there's a lot
of sixties rock influence there, but also it gets really heavy.
Not so much with that track I Am, but with
that song friends, you really hear it, you know, the
first single that we played, and I don't hear a
lot of bands that can really kind of pull that
off that can you know, they can put in that
that blues rock influence but also gets so heavy and
aggressive with it but still make it sound natural. And
I'm wondering, I mean, do you guys really kind of
stand out in the scene? There are there other bands
that are able to pull off what you do. I
suspect that there aren't many.
Speaker 11: Uh, yeah, it's a good question. I think it kind
of comes down to the fact that, you know, myself,
I'm sort of come from the you know, the blues thing,
you a, Hendrik Stevie Ray and the boys, you know,
basically come from you know, a heavier background. Yeah, it
kind of works, you know, I'll bring in sort of
blues based off and then it just ends up becoming
quite heavy, which iry and make it Yeah, yeah do.
Speaker 8: It Do you intend to do that or does it
just going to happen like like like yeah, that that's
the that's the idea is to make it heavy.
Speaker 10: One hundred percent. Well, well, if it works, yeah yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I was fifteen when the nineties hit,
you know, so grunge is a big part of you know,
my teenagers, so you know that leaves a real imprint
on you.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 11: So I guess I just, you know, I had the
mindset of going forward and we all kind of have
the same idea that we we just want to keep
it interesting.
Speaker 10: Right right, So you know, by shifting you know, a
few genres and.
Speaker 11: You know, sort of win songs is kind of something
that we seem to be doing a lot of these days. Yeah,
you know, uh, what'd beat you a long step?
Speaker 8: Is No, that's great, that's great. We should uh and
and by the way too, because again we couldn't hear
that well. Are there are there two of you joining
us this morning? There may have been a third person
and I just missed the missed it because again we
couldn't hear very well.
Speaker 10: No, it's it's uh so yeah, it's uh knife AND's
here as.
Speaker 8: Well, Rob and Nathan. Okay, Nathan, you're the drummer, correct, Okay,
Just want that's what I thought. I just want to
make sure now that I can know that I can
hear you guys so well. Awesome, awesome. I'm curious too
because obviously so you're a I don't know, in the US,
we often use the term power trio. I don't know
if you call it that there, but but for whenever
I hear a band with three people in it that
has a sound, I mean, you guys sound like a
five piece band with There's a lot of textures and
layers to what you're doing. Obviously, is that is that
difficult to replicate live? That big sound or or does
that also come just kind of naturally.
Speaker 7: It seems to come naturally. I think we sort of
a better live acts if that makes sense then.
Speaker 6: Like on record, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, but you have
you know, Rob has.
Speaker 7: A great time and Dave the vice players has great
time as well. So there's just walls of sound.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I can imagine. I can imagine.
Speaker 8: Who are as as far as you know, we talked
a little bit about nineties grunge. I'm curious who some
of the influences are. I know that in the United
States if you if you talk about grunge and you
talk about uh, if you mentioned Australia, you know, Silverchair
comes up as as one of the bands that people
kind of really remember from that era.
Speaker 6: Here are they? Are they still around? A silver Chair
still active?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: They not?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: Okay, they had a they had a couple of big
hits in the US.
Speaker 8: But are but are they? Are they a big influence
on you guys specifically? I don't think you sound I personally,
and I'm not just saying this because you're on the show.
I think you sound a lot better than Silverchair. You know, Silverchair,
I could Silverchair, I could.
Speaker 6: Kind of take them or leave them. But I I
could listen to you guys all day long.
Speaker 10: We could listen to you all day long too, Matte
oh going.
Speaker 6: Oh thank you? Yes, No, no, seriously though, I mean
I love what you're doing. But I am curious. I mean,
is Silverchair an influence on you guys?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 10: No, respectively?
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 11: So you know, for me, Sound Garden was a big one.
Alison Chains was a big one. Yeah, you know, they
kind of really impacted me, uh sort of as a.
Speaker 10: Fifteen year old. Yeah, and still do.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know it's uh it's caught else anniversary
of his passing.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I believe today and yeah, so it's that's
you know, that's a massive loss.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. What is the what is the live situation?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 6: There? Do you guys? Are are you playing a lot
of shows? Are you touring or.
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 11: At the moment the scene, he is kind of really flaky.
So but we are going to Japan early March next year.
Speaker 6: Very cool.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we're really looking forward to that.
Speaker 11: I think we've got a couple of blues festivals coming
up as well, but we're just sort of waiting to
get confirmation.
Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's been a lot of.
Speaker 11: Just you know, in the studio kind of getting you know,
our sound together on records to get it out there,
and then now we just you know, getting out there
and getting behind it.
Speaker 8: It's interesting you mentioned a couple of blues festivals, and
that's something that occurs to me about your sound, is that, yeah,
you can kind of fit in. You can kind of
fit in different places, right, Like you can play a
blues festival, but you can also play, you know, a
heavy rock festival. I don't know, maybe not metal, but
certainly heavy rock, right, Like you've got you've got a
sound that kind of lends itself to to you know,
be able to fit in with some different genres and
some different concepts. It would seem like right, And I
don't know. I'm curious too if you do you approach it,
like depending on the kind of show or the type
of crowd that you're playing for, do you kind of
adjust what you're.
Speaker 6: Doing at all?
Speaker 8: Like like if you play a blues festival, I assume
if you play a song like friends, you're not getting
super heavy with it necessarily, or maybe you are.
Speaker 6: Maybe you are and testing the limits. I don't know,
I'm curious about that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 11: Our first show was actually at at the Portland Blues
Festival over Heat, and were kind of spoiled because this
is a really great gig and it you know, we
weren't sure how the heaviest stuff was going to go,
you know, sort of go down amongst everybody.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but it was just beyond expectation of.
Speaker 11: The responsor you see from the crowd, Like, yeah, it
was still kind of living off that to be honest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really cool. That's really cool.
Speaker 8: I mean that must be I mean that's very validating,
right if you're if you're in a situation you know,
it's one thing to go and play a show where
you know that people are going to be really into
what you're doing, and that's that's great, and that's part
of why you do it, right, But it's even better
when you're in a situation where maybe you're not sure,
maybe you've got a little bit of doubt, you know,
is this crowd going to really like what we do?
And then you do it and they love it, and
then it's that's very validating. And I can see why
that would give you a lot of kind of a
lot of buoyancy going forward, you know, the reaffirmation that
comes from that.
Speaker 6: So that's that's really cool.
Speaker 8: And you said you're going to be doing more of
those you've got you said you've got a couple of
blues festivals coming up, right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we've got possibly the Threadbow Blues Festival, which will
we miss a lot of the festivals for this year,
so we're prominably from January on Woods next year.
Speaker 10: It's it's really going to ramp up.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, we have a real eclectic sort
of range of styles throughout the set.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, We've got a country blues called Yesterday
Blues with.
Speaker 10: Some great harp on there, you know, from a great
friend of our, Shane Carter.
Speaker 11: We do a bluegrass number called Shame I mean, and
then you've got Friends, which is kind of leans towards
you know, the the seventies sort of rock into into
like a you know, a sort of a sound garden,
that kind of ending, you know, like yeah, so you know,
I don't know, maybe we're we've got ADHD can't we
can't decide on where we want to go, but I
think it's always going to have blues connotations just purely
because of my playing. Sure, you know, I grew up
with you know, listening to guys like Peter Green and
Mick Taylor and uh, you know, and then Stevie Ray
and Jimmy of course, so you know, and then you
throw that over, you know, some rage against the machine
style riffs.
Speaker 10: It's interesting, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that in there too. I heard I
heard a little rage against the machine in there, and oh,
just so good. Yeah, I mean that you're able to
take those.
Speaker 8: Elements and infuse them together is just really good, because
I you know, I've certainly met some bands that have
tried to do something like that and not quite pulled
it off the way that you guys are.
Speaker 6: Are you getting traction there? On radio?
Speaker 8: I have not you know, what a chris to me
as I'm talking to you, because I'm such a radio nerd,
I have no idea what radio is like in earlier
I mean, I can tell you here in the United
States we have a lot of you know, classic rock
is a very dominant radio format. Country is a very
dominant radio format. Shows that play a lot of what
we're doing here, not not so there's not so many
of these, you know, of course, we do a variety
of genres on the show. But but what what is
it like in Australia? And are you on the radio
in Australia? You should be if you're not, But but
what what's it like there in terms of radio?
Speaker 10: Uh, it's no, we don't, we haven't sort of.
Speaker 11: It's it's really hard to to break through you know,
commercial radio because it's pretty much classic.
Speaker 10: Rock here too.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so yeah, it's it's kind of one of those
things like, uh, you know, if if it goes underground,
I think that's the best, the best way for it,
you know, because.
Speaker 10: Then it'll gain traction and and uh and and get
some legs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that it sounds like the state of
radio is similar to the way it is here, and
I think that, uh, you know, fortunately with the Internet,
there are other ways to uh to you know, build
build a following outside of you know, It's what you said,
it's true here too. You know, it's very hard to
crack uh commercial radio, especially if you're a you know,
a new band and you're and you're doing something that
doesn't necessarily fit with what what people are used to hearing,
especially and but that's that's that's been true.
Speaker 6: I mean that's been true for decades.
Speaker 8: You know, people get that's why certain genres obviously rise up,
like when grunge, you know, really got popular, for example,
because we were talking about grunge earlier. Although grunge and
and you know, the Seattle Era and all of that,
what was interesting about that is you had a lot
of these bands that were sort of put into that category,
but who actually had very different sounds like Alison Chains
and Pearl Jam for example, really don't don't sound anything alike.
But you know, you just label it all all grunge.
But I think that, But yeah, it is very difficult
that commercial radio here in the United States. Uh, college
radio is thriving, and that's a great way to get
your music out there. I don't know if it's the
same in Australia. If college radio is really vibrant therein
it even exists.
Speaker 6: No, no kidding, I've never had it. Yeah, Oh that's
all that breaks my heart.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I think that you know, the equivalent uh
you know to that here for US community radio, which
is and we've had some success there, but.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we've we've we've had.
Speaker 11: More success actually outside of Australia airplay was than what
we've had here.
Speaker 8: Oh that's interesting, okay, yeah, but again that's validating too, right.
I mean, if you can get if you can get
airplay outside of your home base, that's awesome.
Speaker 10: The fact that anyone wants to listen to these fantastic.
Speaker 6: Very nice and and uh, you guys started in twenty eighteen,
is that correct? Is that what the band started?
Speaker 11: Yes, so Nathan, Yeah, it was around then. Yeah, Nathan
and I were playing in a in a in a.
Speaker 10: Blues band, and.
Speaker 11: I'd written some songs I've written, come up with some
ideas and it just kind of didn't fit what we
were doing in this particular blues band. It was a
straight ahead sort of you know, boogie blues band, and
so Nathan and I started jamming and and then Dave
we brought Date or Dave came in and then yeah,
like literally the first.
Speaker 10: Jam we had we wrote some songs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you did.
Speaker 11: We just knew straight away that the chemistry was there,
and we were all, you know, brothers before that. We're
all friends and and sort of known each other through
the scene. So you know, it's it's great to get
to do this, but it's even better to get to
do it with your mates.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, absolutely. So much of what makes a band
works is obviously the music itself, but so much of
it too, is just the interpersonal relationships involved and how
do you get along and and you know, are you
all in the same page? And when when you get
together and it comes together quickly like that, then you
know you've really got something, you know. I mean, you know,
I've been in a lot of bands, and you know
pretty quickly you know whether it's gonna work or not
work creatively, because if it doesn't work personally, it's not
likely to work creatively. And you know, sometimes bands have
a lot of success and a lot of notoriety, and
then you know, things start to break down on an
interpersonal relationship within the band, and then they'll talk about how,
oh that that creative tension actually works for us, and
it's like, eh, does it really?
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you know, I think it's better.
It's it's just better when everyone's getting along, right, Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're all about just hominy and uh yeah, and
and just you know, everything kind of just.
Speaker 10: Things crusy and easy, because.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I just think that you know, that that tends
to you know, have can have a negative effect on
the music.
Speaker 10: You know, everyone's got to be sync. It's very easy band.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 8: And when you're when there's only three of you, that
makes it easier too, right, because the more, yeah, the
more people in the band, it's like, uh, the more
you got to work around everyone's schedules and whatnot, and
uh yeah, it's just uh, you know, less, less is
more sometimes. But like I said, you guys have such
a big sound. It's it's great. By the way, So
circling back to Japan, you mentioned going to Japan. How
did that come about?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 10: Uh, friends of ours did the tour.
Speaker 11: Us mid last year and they just had such a
great experience. So yeah, we they put us in touch
with the guys who booked the tours. So yeah, it's
just a club tour there through Tokyo and a song
and a few other places.
Speaker 6: Very cool.
Speaker 10: We're really looking forward to just getting out of the
country and you know, just just doing it somewhere else.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you never know what can come from that too.
There's a lot of I mean, I can tell you
you know, there's definitely some American bands that uh that
actually well, I think the classic example, of course that
everyone knows is Cheap Trick, you know, live at Buddhican.
I mean that was kind of there. You know, they
got big in Japan first and then really broke in
the US. And then there's even I forget who it
is now there's a band that has a song called
big in Japan. That's about that, but I forget everyone
now who the band is, but maybe you guys remember,
but now, but.
Speaker 6: That's really cool. That's that's really cool. Good for you guys.
And then uh, now, oh, by the way, so these
songs that we've been playing here today, are these part
of an album or have you just been releasing a
series of singles?
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we've really we've released a uh, you know,
five singles so far.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 11: But what we're sort of in the process of doing
is we're back in the studio in a couple of
weeks to cut the rest of the tracks to just
kind of put an album together to drop before we
go to Japan, okay, and just to kind of round out,
you know, and finish off this sort of era of songs.
And because I feel like, you know, we you know,
the direction starting to shift, even though you know it'll
you know, it's going slightly heavier, I think, but it's
still you know, it has the blues elements and pretty
much whatever we decided to deviate you know at the
time genre wise.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that makes sense. Well, great, well I look
forward to that. By the way, So when you release
the album, this is another thing I'm curious about in
terms of how this works in Australia. So in the
United States, over the past few years, physical media has.
Speaker 6: Really made a comeback.
Speaker 8: Well, Vinyl of course never went away, but a lot
of the guests that we have on the show are
releasing CDs again, and five years ago, six years ago,
that wasn't necessarily the case. What's it like there, and
do you plan to release when when you put the
album out, well that will you have a physical CD
release for that or will it just be streaming or
maybe you don't even know yet. I don't know, but uh,
but but I'm curious the state of things there in
terms of that physical media.
Speaker 7: Yeah, seems like way fog Ye is behind then, because
I don't there's not really people putting the state's out.
But yeah, vinyl for sure, So yeah, our plan was
just to go strike to vinyl.
Speaker 6: Oh, then go straight to vinyl on.
Speaker 10: Spotify and what you know streaming.
Speaker 6: Oh oh cool. Okay, so you may not do a CD,
but you're going to do a vinyl that's cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because really liked the idea of an album and
it's just I don't know, you go to gigs now
and no one's even selling CDs, so it just seems
kind of like we'll just end up with a thousand
CDs in our garage.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The records people are a fan that, like real fans
will buy a record, spending a bit more and it's.
Speaker 10: A nice thing to have.
Speaker 6: Absolutely and nothing.
Speaker 11: So the mindset to with the singles is it is
a bit of a singles market at the moment, you know,
just for bands that are kind of you know, sort
of at this sort of level just trying to keep relevant,
you know, with their play and just keeping your name
out there. So I mean, if you drop a whole album,
you know, you drop a single and then you drop
the whole album, well that's kind of you know, twelve
months work. They're kind of laid out, you know, sort
of in one sitting. Whereas the way we've done it.
We've we've been able to count it just drip fade.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a great.
Speaker 6: Way to put it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and a very uh common strategy used now or
I've heard of referred to to as the waterfall effect,
where because it's really the inverse of what it used
to be. You know, and I'm an industry guy, so
you know, it used to be obviously, album comes out
and then singles or well actually first single would come
out six to eight weeks before the album, but then
the second, third, fourth, you know, if you're that lucky,
the rest of the singles come out after the album,
Whereas now it's kind of the inverse where a lot
of artists will release a series of singles ahead of
the album, like all the singles come out, and then
those singles eventually form an album or an EP. So
it's kind of the you know, the Internet and social
media and everything, because you've got to constantly feed that machine, uh,
to stay as you put it, you know, to stay relevant.
So now it's kind of the you know what's nice
about that though, too, is so if you're in a
situation where if you're putting out singles and you haven't
decided yet about it album. If the singles aren't doing anything,
if you're not getting anything on Spotify or anything.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 6: And when I say get anything, I mean plays. I
don't mean money, because there's no money.
Speaker 10: But if.
Speaker 8: You're if you're not getting any traction, then you know, okay,
well maybe maybe we need to change things up. Maybe
we won't put out an entire album of singles in
this style if if this isn't working, you know, depending
on what your goals are and and whatnot. So I
kind of I kind of like the new model that
that we have now, where it's singles first and then
they ultimately become an album or maybe not, and it
kind of gives you more flexibility long term.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're really adamant, Nathan and I are very adamant
about you know, putting them.
Speaker 10: You know, in an album format.
Speaker 11: You know, that's how we grew up listening to albums, uh,
you know, from start to Phoenish and and you know,
they tell a story, uh, you know, and you know
it's a journey. So yeah, that's definitely a goal that
we said that we would get to a certain point
and then we would go, Okay, let's let's put these
together and see what the you know what they.
Speaker 6: Say, yep, yep.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It is interesting because in the past, it's true that
we would have made the album and then released, like
you said, like maybe one single and then the album,
whereas now we haven't even finished the album, but we're
able to release songs. Yeah, so it's kind of works
in our favor because we're a bit lazy, no.
Speaker 8: But it also it also helps to right in terms
of you get the you know, because I know just
from my own experience as a musician, when you create something,
when you record something that you're really happy with, you
want to share it with the world, and this way
you get to do that instead of having to wait
for however long.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, because that's hard.
Speaker 8: It's hard to sit on something, something that you're proud
of and something that you want to share with people.
It's hard to just sit on that, you know. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,
in a moment, we're gonna play when we when we
wrap up the conversation, I'm going to end the segment
with this track, storm Walker, And this is the brand
new single.
Speaker 6: Correct, this is the newest one?
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yeah, this is our latest release.
Speaker 6: Did this just come out like like yesterday or something
or this.
Speaker 10: Week or no sorry, November November.
Speaker 8: November okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, another great. I love
all the all the tracks you sent us. These are
all really good. But anything we should know about this
before we play it.
Speaker 10: We're really proud of it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's definitely you know that the further
we go into this process recording, the more we're sort
of really finding ourselves sound wise, you know. And this
was also a dedication to a friend of mine who passed,
you know, during COVID in another state.
Speaker 10: We had lockdown laws here. You know, I couldn't kind of.
Speaker 11: Get there to sort of to see him before he passed,
and so you know, this was kind of you know
that this is dedicated to him. So okay, and I
know wherever, wherever he is, he'd be loving it. So yeah,
so it was there was you know, it was a
great you know, it was a great song to sort
of get out there. And so Dave, Dave, the bass
player in the band, he basically recorded everything we've done
so far because he's he's he's got a studio down
there and in the Hawksbury studio Blues and yeah, he's.
Speaker 10: You know he's done all the production, mixed, master produced.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
Speaker 10: You know, and then you know, comes in and lays
down some killer bass, so in five minutes. Yeah, he's
an asshole.
Speaker 11: So but but yeah, I mean, you know, the great
thing is about you know, you know, I'll bring in
an idea and then between the three of us, you know,
we turn them into songs. So you know, and that's
why I think the sound is is so three dimensional
if I could.
Speaker 6: Say that, Yeah, that's a good way of putting yeah.
Speaker 10: Because everyone's bringing their own you know, flavor to it.
Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, So we're gonna play that in a moment.
And by the way, guys, what should people know about
where to keep up with everything that you're doing. Where's
the best place to go online so that our listeners
can keep up with Killen Fly?
Speaker 11: Yeah, sure, we are on We're on Facebook and Instagram,
We're on YouTube. We have a couple of clips up
on YouTube, but yeah, that's pretty much where we're most active. Okay,
you know all our releases are on or streaming platforms.
So yeah, to you guys listening, dig it, shoot us
a shoot us a follow, follow and a lock and
and and shoot us a message.
Speaker 8: And let us know you're digging it absolutely absolutely well, guys,
Rob and Nathan, thank you so much for joining us
this morning on the program. In a moment, we're going
to hit that track and uh, but I appreciate and
I'm glad we were able to work through the technical issue.
And we just recently started using what'sapp here. We used
to use Skype, but Skype apparently is no more, so
we're but what's happen.
Speaker 6: What's app is a.
Speaker 8: Little little wonky, but we figured it out and it's working.
So so I appreciate, Uh, I appreciate getting to talk
to you. I would have been really disappointed if I
didn't get to talk to you guys and have a
full conversation because I love your sound, love what you
guys are doing.
Speaker 10: And uh, and I thanks Matt.
Speaker 11: It's it's look, it's uh, it's it's it's almost to
be not he So we would have been really disappointed
we hadn't got to talk to you.
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for
having us on the show.
Speaker 8: And yeah, really absolutely absolutely friend absolutely you as well,
and we will do it again in the future.
Speaker 6: We're gonna hit that track, but I'll let you guys go.
Thanks guys, look for it.
Speaker 10: Thanks Maddy, thank you, you got it.
Speaker 6: Bye bye. All right.
Speaker 8: That was Rob and Nathan from the band Killing Flaw.
We're gonna play that track storm Walker in just a moment.
And if you are listening live on Saturday morning, uh,
don't go away. We have plenty more to come coming up.
In just a few minutes. We're gonna be talking with
Ryan Redwood all the way from the UK. We'll see
how Skype works with a UK guest, I mean, not Skype.
I'm sorry, I'm living in the past. Uh, WhatsApp. We'll
see how that works. I'm sure it'll be fine. And
then uh, and then of course, also in the second
hour after we after we talked to Ryan, we're gonna
be talking with Major moment from Boston.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: They well, uh, we're gonna use what's app for that too. Actually,
we'll see how how that works. That should be really easy.
And then uh, and then in the third hour, moonlight
Ride will be with us. But right now, now, let's
play this. This is storm Walker. The band is Killing
Flaw all the way from Australia.
Speaker 6: This is so good. I love these guys. Check this out.
Speaker 2: M h, it's mm hm.
Speaker 9: You feel like yet day I heard say, when I
heard to say, brother.
Speaker 3: Seize.
Speaker 1: Foot in the kings.
Speaker 3: And now.
Speaker 12: If you do.
Speaker 1: For the king.
Speaker 3: All the call.
Speaker 5: Well h.
Speaker 3: Will and let me crack.
Speaker 9: You can say goodbye and say goodbye.
Speaker 1: My brother, and never old. You'll never old.
Speaker 5: You go.
Speaker 3: Or in the kingdom the name for in the king and.
Speaker 1: Not to go.
Speaker 2: The twin.
Speaker 10: Ballman who.
Speaker 3: When he thought.
Speaker 1: That you don't recurred in the