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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time to

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<v Speaker 1>ignition with the a W fan Hub podcast team, and

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<v Speaker 1>tonight we're gonna talk about some hot topics in the

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<v Speaker 1>a W universe or galaxy. What's the politically correct? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say galaxy. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have, we do have.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a questionable rip off, but yeah, galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>is bigger than the you no, I don't know. Galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>is smaller than the universe, right, so you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to pick that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, the a W cesspool. There you go. Multi Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have some topics we're gonna talk about tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna give our predictions on who who attacked has

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<v Speaker 1>book is going to reveal that tomorrow night. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the partnership between AW and Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Deymoores Maple Leaf Pro. We had some wrestlers over at

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<v Speaker 1>Maple Leaf Pro this past weekend. But we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>start off talking about something that Alex is going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Kelson, and this is Alex and yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 2>had some rumblings. I don't know if Jericho himself has

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it, maybe on his podcast, but he's begun

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<v Speaker 2>to put the word out there that his contract is

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<v Speaker 2>expiring in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the list of places he could go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, you know, I think it's very possible

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<v Speaker 2>that he could go back to WWE if for some

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<v Speaker 2>reason AW decides to lowball in. You know, it's I

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<v Speaker 2>think he would be welcomed back there with open arms.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, as much hate that Jericho

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<v Speaker 2>gets these days, and I've enjoyed a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>Learning Tree stuff, but admittedly it's weird the bottom rung

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<v Speaker 2>of AW. And you know, there's a place, there's a time,

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<v Speaker 2>and a place for the low card, the lowest card.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, someone needs to open the show. Not everything

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<v Speaker 2>is the main event, and that's kind of firmly where

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<v Speaker 2>Jericho is these days. But given that, you know, Jericho

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<v Speaker 2>started at the main event in year one of a

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<v Speaker 2>w and he's just slowly gone lower and lower over time.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you saying that the Ladder War match on

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<v Speaker 1>AW Dynamite between Chris Jericho and Mark Briscoe for the

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<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor World Championship is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the main event.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it will be the main event. But the

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<v Speaker 2>main event of a Dynamite is different than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>main event of Full Gear coming up. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>last pay per view, Jericho was in the death spot.

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<v Speaker 2>They put him on right before the main event.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you hit something good there. Alex Jericho is

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<v Speaker 3>a Dynamiter collision main eventor I don't think he needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be in key matches on pay per views. The

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<v Speaker 3>guy's fifty three. Even if he resigns, I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of value in having him on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>He's smart, he knows the business. I think he's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good behind the desk on commentary. But physically, I think

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<v Speaker 3>everybody sees it. He doesn't have it. Some competitors that

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<v Speaker 3>can can hold on to it into their fifties, but

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<v Speaker 3>he just doesn't anymore. And I think his value is

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<v Speaker 3>actually not wrestling.

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<v Speaker 4>I disagree. He's matches.

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<v Speaker 5>He's put on some go to matches at fifty and

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<v Speaker 5>stuff at But in the last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, like the like when he first got in though

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<v Speaker 3>you know, no, no, you're right, But who has he

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<v Speaker 3>really worked with this year that's worth it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he's worked with Hook and Hook is not

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<v Speaker 5>the best. Uh, he is declining, and I will admit that.

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<v Speaker 5>But at fifty three, I mean, look, yeah, like Shelton

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<v Speaker 5>Benjamin whose peak right now.

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<v Speaker 6>But he's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy who needs to be there. Who I think is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be Tony's Michael P.

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<v Speaker 4>S Hayes is what he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna be the guy who's gonna retire. There be

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<v Speaker 5>in his being Tony's ear all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see him.

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<v Speaker 5>Going back to WWE because of the things he said

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<v Speaker 5>and done. I would love to see him going the

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame there, but I don't think it's ever

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<v Speaker 5>gonna happen. But he's a good guy to have around

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<v Speaker 5>to bounce ideals off and creativity, and he needs to

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<v Speaker 5>be a part time if he does or announcing.

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<v Speaker 4>I love him Mama announced table. Some don't, but I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I liked him too when I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>doing rampage and stuff. I could see him as a

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<v Speaker 3>manager who bumps occasionally. You know, Like I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a problem with them doing matches, it's just every week,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like there's just better performers. There's a find

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<v Speaker 3>out about a TV time and there's just better performers.

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<v Speaker 3>They could utilize it more.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only there's not only better performers, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>younger performers who get better unless they're actually wrestling in

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. To a point, I did put a pull

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<v Speaker 1>up on the AW fan hub subreddit and on the

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling Hub discord asking when Chris Jericho's contract expires in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, should AW re sign him. The three

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<v Speaker 1>selections or choices that people had was yes, no, or yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as a wrestler. Not many people said no.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the responses were yes or yes, but not

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<v Speaker 1>as a wrestler. And it's really close. Yes but not

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<v Speaker 1>as a wrestler is slightly.

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<v Speaker 3>Ahead, but.

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<v Speaker 1>People want Chris Jericho back. Another point that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make here is that Chris Jericho, as Barry said,

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of on a decline. But here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, and this has always been this way

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Jericho. Chris Jericho as a wrestler, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand out to me as much as his character does.

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<v Speaker 1>Not saying he's a bad wrestler, I'm saying is he's

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<v Speaker 1>as good as his character is, and he evolves so

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<v Speaker 1>much throughout his career. I personally think that this particular

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he's doing right now, the Learning Tree is

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<v Speaker 1>the least engaging, the least fun that I've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>watching Chris Jericho.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's too inside baseball gamewise like to get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of his references. That won't like then another

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<v Speaker 3>thing that bugs me, the Bucks do it too. That

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<v Speaker 3>won't work for me, brother, Like, if you're a total

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<v Speaker 3>wrestling nerd like we are, you get that. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you're somebody who just tunes in casually, you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that reference. And I just the learning tree is it's

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<v Speaker 3>an inside baseball reference, get my I just I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it's as effective as some of the other stables.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, either, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Who said that quote?

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<v Speaker 3>That don't work for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a Hogan thing that that comes back to when

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<v Speaker 3>he went a job for staying at the uh what

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<v Speaker 3>was the w show? Yeah, We're sting was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>win the belt off Ogaan. He said, that doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, Okay, I thought it was from the movie Brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, but you know, I I love Jactough. I

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<v Speaker 5>think he's willing to walk with anybody. You know, he

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<v Speaker 5>can put up He even put up a Pineapple Pete

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<v Speaker 5>who was in the audience back in the day. So

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he wants to work with people. He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like John Cena back in the day. There

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<v Speaker 5>were some times he buried people. I don't see Jericho

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<v Speaker 5>doing that. And he put you know, he helped put

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<v Speaker 5>Orange Cassidy on the map. He helped mjuh get there.

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<v Speaker 5>He was already there. But the year long feud was great.

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<v Speaker 5>And I really think that he's an asset no matter

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<v Speaker 5>what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's an argument he helped elevate Garcia too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>He picked Action Andretti to put Andrettio. He picked Andretti

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<v Speaker 3>to put him over. They just didn't have plans afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>That's on Tome. Yeah, but I mean, you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>comes back. I think there's a lot of value in Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember he'd leaned out a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He had done an interview where he said he was

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<v Speaker 3>doing an Internet fasting or something that had dropped some weight.

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<v Speaker 3>The speed was there, and you're like, man, maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy could go into his fifties, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>put the weight back on injured. I mean like it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in your fifties, you know. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of value. I just I don't think it's wrestling,

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<v Speaker 3>or if it is, it's a special it's a special

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<v Speaker 3>occasion type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think it would be devastating to

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<v Speaker 2>lose Chris Jericho.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, I I don't see him sticking around

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<v Speaker 2>if he can't wrestle a little bit. But if they

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<v Speaker 2>could get him just like a part timer kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing like Sting had and down the line, give him

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<v Speaker 2>a huge send off, like yeah, they they need to

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<v Speaker 2>keep him around.

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<v Speaker 4>To send off.

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<v Speaker 1>He does, he really does. You know one thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>always bothered me, and I've seen it said so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>is that Chris Jericho is a selfish, selfish wrestler and

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<v Speaker 1>he's all about himself. And as was just said, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he did it. He puts people over. He really

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<v Speaker 1>does work hard to put people.

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<v Speaker 2>And always has.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he always has. It's in the case of Action Andretti,

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<v Speaker 1>as was said, it's not Jericho's fault that Tony Kahan

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<v Speaker 1>didn't carry through with the Action Andretti story, because Action

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<v Speaker 1>Andretti was hot, and when he had that match with

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho, the crowd loved him, and Tony Kan just

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<v Speaker 1>threw him away for whatever reason. He may have had

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<v Speaker 1>good reasons to do it, but he just threw him away.

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<v Speaker 1>He tossed them aside, and he lost a momentum, meaning action.

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<v Speaker 1>Andretti lost a momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember when.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jericho don't doesn't put people over because he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, when Andretti won, it reminded me of when

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<v Speaker 3>I remember watching the Randy Orton and the John Cenas

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<v Speaker 3>first wins and they were against pretty I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>who's scena went over on her. It was either seen

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<v Speaker 3>or Randy went over somebody pretty big on a raw

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<v Speaker 3>and it launched him. And that's what I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen to Andretta. I'm like, man, he just went

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<v Speaker 3>over Jericho out of the blue. This is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>The crowd went crazy and then it just it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go anywhere. That's not on CJ. They should have had

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<v Speaker 3>a plan for him. But I think one of the

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<v Speaker 3>challenges with Chris is like the stables, each stable has

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<v Speaker 3>gotten like less and less significant, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the pull on him. People are only looking

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<v Speaker 3>at his recent track record as far as his whole body,

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<v Speaker 3>Like Chris is fantastic. He's had an amazing career and

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<v Speaker 3>he he is the reason AW is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>reasons AW is here and got founded. That proof of

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<v Speaker 3>concept match he did with Kenny in New Japan kind

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<v Speaker 1>He just needs a good gimmit, because his last two factions,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I liked the Jericho Appreciation Society.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it ended differently, And yeah, me too, I

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's time for Jericho go away for

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<v Speaker 3>Who was the one that suggested the ladder match might

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<v Speaker 3>for a bit. Do you know who was it? That

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually I think you might be onto something like

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<v Speaker 3>and you want to make a star out of somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>We've already seen that. They've started to plant the seeds

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<v Speaker 3>for a Big Bill Chris, you know, put that line.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill gave him the look Chris loses. This is another

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<v Speaker 3>lost with Bill snap and say, you know, I came

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<v Speaker 3>to be a winner. And all you're doing is losing

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<v Speaker 3>and just annihilate them. And that rockets, you know, Big

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<v Speaker 3>going to get a pop. Know he's gonna get a pop.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather see Big turn without being intellectual, just be

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what, I'm sick of your ass. We

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<v Speaker 1>just beat him.

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<v Speaker 3>Down just for someone's got to go through a table man,

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<v Speaker 3>hell you.

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<v Speaker 4>Result things or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But well that has been sitting there very silent through

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I've just been thinking and listening. God, that's all.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh God, I don't want to lose Chris Jericho. I

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<v Speaker 8>still think he has a future. I think it may

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<v Speaker 8>not be in the ring, but I think he's he's

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<v Speaker 8>great to have around. Maybe he just needs some time

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<v Speaker 8>off and time away, that's all, and come back and

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<v Speaker 8>he'll be the same old Chris Jericho that we all

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<v Speaker 8>know in the Yeah, well we.

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<v Speaker 3>All it's the same. Absence makes the heart grow fonder,

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<v Speaker 3>is that it?

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<v Speaker 6>That's it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I mean he goes away for a few months.

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<v Speaker 3>When he comes back, they'll pop for him. They can

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<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, we need Fozzy to have a huge hit

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<v Speaker 2>and then do a world to where.

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<v Speaker 1>Well did you see the video of Fozzy's latest show

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<v Speaker 1>or one of their latest shows. The place was empty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually kind of embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I don't think they do huge venues.

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<v Speaker 1>He's yeah, it was somebody on the floor, standing on

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<v Speaker 1>were not many people there. But Chris Jericho is out

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<v Speaker 1>there performing as if it was Webley Stadium sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and Fozzy, I mean, the whole group was

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<v Speaker 1>out there performing because that's what you do, treat every

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's that's why it was because it

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<v Speaker 1>did look like there was maybe a couple hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>at that show. So so anyway, it will be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see tomorrow night on the main event of aw Dynamite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead predicted now that it is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Mark Prisco and Chris Jericho in the latter war.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep coming up with new names for ladder matches.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a Ring of Honor term. They were using

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<v Speaker 2>it for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, speaking of Ring of Honor, their Instagram account for

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<v Speaker 1>Ring of Honor put up a really great graphic of

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<v Speaker 1>a batch card between the go on John Cruise and

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<v Speaker 1>basically the batch card said is probably not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They did the whole match card. I thought it was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>John Cruise was on TV recently, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going to talk about John Cruise and Serpentaco

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the show.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very good friends with Nila Rose.

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<v Speaker 3>Was was Cruse the one who did the funny when

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<v Speaker 3>Joe did his walk away spot when he was in

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<v Speaker 3>mid air and did the face with the hands up, like,

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<v Speaker 3>what the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but that's not the first time he's done that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I saw eyepops, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that is that is not the first time

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<v Speaker 1>he did that. I can't remember. He was in a

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<v Speaker 1>he was in a four way batch or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like, and the three other guys were in

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<v Speaker 1>and they all just walked away and yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Dark Order. Yeah. So anyway, let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on something that I'm actually looking forward to. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know Net's going to have something to say about this

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<v Speaker 1>because it's got conspiracy theory written all over it. But

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night Hook is supposed to show up on Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>and reveal who attacked Taz backstage? What three weeks ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Tas had what was it hip surgery or

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<v Speaker 1>was it knee surgery, hip replacement.

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<v Speaker 3>Double knee? I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Knee, I don't know, But anyway, so Hook is going

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal who attacked Taz backstage? What do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think attacked Taz and will be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hook story going forward. Let's hear let's hear

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<v Speaker 1>your theories.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like conventional wisdom. A lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it's Christian.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's Christian too, like.

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<v Speaker 1>No conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I think Christian.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think they've taken too long to reveal it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's Tony Kah. You know, why do something tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>when you can wait a.

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<v Speaker 6>Month and a half and everyone's forgotten about it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was they announced this. It wasn't on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like a Instagram video or something right

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<v Speaker 2>where yeah, where Hook announced that he's going to announce Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he found the Yeah. So that kind of feels a

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<v Speaker 2>little half asked to me, like they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that big.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a's really good at putting videos on social media Twitter, Instagram, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever that are really good. It would be more entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. And I don't know why they don't

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<v Speaker 1>put them on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Nuts. Kelson drives me nuts. They have so much good

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<v Speaker 3>back well Washington Shooks, so much good backstage stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>it never makes it on TV. And it's better than

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the prepackaged promos. I will say, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the vibe they used to have from the backstage stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing it in the Moxley stuff. We're starting to

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<v Speaker 3>see more of that get onto the on I love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can start seeing that influence. But to your point, Kelson,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been at least six or eight months or they've

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<v Speaker 3>had a lot of really good, really good stuff on

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<v Speaker 3>their social media accounts that really should be on TV.

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<v Speaker 3>And this hook one is a good example, Kelson, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you nailed it them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they end up putting some of them. They they

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<v Speaker 1>they record them after Dynamite and they end up playing

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<v Speaker 1>them on Collision. Yeah, some of them, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>already been seen, So now you're wasting time. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see what it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Bud? Who else has? Is everybody saying Christian?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it'll be Christian. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be underwhelming. I'm expecting something like Who's the Bound,

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Keith, the Bounty Hunter. It's going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>either Big Tell or somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that would be I'm not excited for Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's even more disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a feeling it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Jericho Vortex stipulation was he escapes the Jericho Vortex if

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<v Speaker 2>you win.

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<v Speaker 3>My fantasy booking, And this won't happen because I think

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky's on his way out, and really I think he

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<v Speaker 3>probably will be better off with Cody and WWE from

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<v Speaker 3>a career perspective, just with how they've never been able

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out his pushing a w and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>on Tony. But I'd love it to be Ricky, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love his promo to be like Listen, I peaked

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<v Speaker 3>when I was with Team TAZ and it's been all

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<v Speaker 3>downhill from here, and I blame you for ruining that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd love to see a long term feud with

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<v Speaker 3>him and Hook just going back and forth putting on

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<v Speaker 3>absolute bangers. I think Ricky if he had, if he

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<v Speaker 3>had the right One of the things I like what

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<v Speaker 3>AW is doing is they're starting to pair up, like

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<v Speaker 3>long term feuds of just people who hate each other

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<v Speaker 3>mm hmm. And I'd love Hook to have somebody like that,

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<v Speaker 3>or the inverse is Ricky to have somebody and that

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<v Speaker 3>would be fantasy booking why A great way to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it's going to happen. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky is not long for the aw multi verse much longer.

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<v Speaker 4>He needs to be released. Honestly, I wish they would.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, damn they're shot. They blew it. Lets somebody else, Troy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, so I have a conspiracy theory. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>even came close. I already said that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to mention this is coming to fruition. It's got a

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<v Speaker 1>twist to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the person that's gonna be shown on

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<v Speaker 1>the backstage camera as having attacked Taz is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Serpentico. No, no, the listen, you gotta let me finish. However, however,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really Serpentico.

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<v Speaker 3>It's somebody mask.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's it's somebody in the Serpentaco mask and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's going to be John Cruise.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely John Cruise is.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to Yeah, and one on our in our audience

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<v Speaker 1>here is saying that it's Samo and Joe. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think some Joe kind of he's kind of identifiable from

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<v Speaker 1>the neck down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, uh hook and it's their Pentaco math I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the mask thing though, Kelson, I hadn't even thought

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<v Speaker 3>about a way for them to draw it out another week.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you put a masked figure or something that

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<v Speaker 3>can add a little more intrigue and then give them

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<v Speaker 3>another week, give.

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<v Speaker 1>You another thought. Okay, what if it's a masked figure

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<v Speaker 1>or cloaked figure that you really don't see their faces

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<v Speaker 1>during the attack and after it's after it's done, it's

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that the attacker is Hook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's ridiculous, but I would like that. Yeah, it

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00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>would just give Hook so much heat.

425
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 4>You turn them, heel, you have to be.

426
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 3>What's the motivation there? Though? Like his dad's nothing but

427
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.640
<v Speaker 3>support him. He helped him win his belt back, he

428
00:23:57.640 --> 00:23:59.680
<v Speaker 3>helped them retire it. So like, what's the motivation on

429
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 3>that that angle though? For the turn?

430
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, when you think about it, uh, his dad took

431
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 1>his belt.

432
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he kept him in the the f t

433
00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 2>W vortex.

434
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, as a wrestler or as a personality or

435
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 1>as a man. Because of you, You're you're not very smart.

436
00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:32.440
<v Speaker 3>If it's Christian, all right, so let's fantasy book this

437
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.079
<v Speaker 3>for a bit. So let's say they go with Christian.

438
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Joe's out filming a movie and he's gonna be wrapping

439
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 3>up soon. Speaking of which, anybody see the footage of

440
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Joe in the New Yakuza game, because they all did,

441
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I with Fight Forever looked like that,

442
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like nailed it. But so Joe's off film

443
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:55.480
<v Speaker 3>in a movie and he's due back. How do you

444
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 3>bring him back in? And so you know, if you

445
00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>have yeah, yeah Joe. So so if Hook turns or not,

446
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 3>if Hook turns on, you know, and he's the one

447
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 3>that text has. But coming back to the Christian thing,

448
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 3>so so Christians want to attacks them, does Joe come

449
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 3>in as the heavy to help Hook out? And then

450
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 3>they start their you know, paulp Fiction Buddy cop stuff again,

451
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 3>which was getting over huge before Joe had to go film.

452
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, like I love that stuff, those long segments

453
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 3>where they're talking as they go through and they kick

454
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 3>open a door and they're like surprise and speak down

455
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:29.920
<v Speaker 3>people bring back in.

456
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you this related to that question,

457
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 1>is I can't remember who wasn't the k fabe injured

458
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Joe to send them on? Yeah, I think it's tops

459
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:51.279
<v Speaker 1>down that trick, the freaking learning tree and be it

460
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>over and done with gone. Maybe maybe Joe tomorrow night

461
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and throws Jeric out of the ladder into the.

462
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Alison, Yeah, but if afterwards Joe's music hits and

463
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 3>he's the one that puts Jericho away for revenge.

464
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>And then Bill goes and stands next to Joe like

465
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 1>face to face with him, and they hug and kiss,

466
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and they run off and get married.

467
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>And they turn into the Warriors tag team. I've been

468
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>talking about wanting to see that we're we're gonna get

469
00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 3>from from Brian Cage and Lance Archer.

470
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:34.720
<v Speaker 9>Instead if the team my god, I'll tell you what.

471
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but I don't. I think it's gonna

472
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 5>underwhelming having a big on Hook. I've let that be known.

473
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he's worth the time. I know people

474
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 5>love him, but I just don't see it. He reminds

475
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 5>me of Jade a lot.

476
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But but well, the thing about Hook is Hook could

477
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.079
<v Speaker 1>be good if his character ever evolved. He actually wrestled

478
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 1>different people. He's been doing the same thing for since

479
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>he started. Remember when he first started, he wasn't really wrestling.

480
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>He was just like mini muscle.

481
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it always feels like they're hiding Hook like I

482
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>know he was. He was in a collision one of

483
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>their multi min tag matches, like four on four, and

484
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>that was the first time I saw Hook like standing

485
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>next to a bunch of the normal wrestlers. I'm like, oh,

486
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>he's not as short as I assumed he was. Yeah,

487
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.240
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, he's normal size. I thought he was

488
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>like Kaz's height because they seem to always be kind

489
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>of hiding him.

490
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. He reminds me of the kid from

491
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 4>Mike Tyson's punch Out.

492
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, little Mac, right, little Mac, Little Mac, That's

493
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 3>what it was.

494
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, has been starting to talk a lot more now. Yeah,

495
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's been around for four years. We still don't

496
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>know what the hell he is.

497
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 5>Well, he has to get over the throwing and all

498
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 5>that stuff. There has to be deeper.

499
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Well, we gotta see him wrestle Moore

500
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 4>than just.

501
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Hook's move set is really similar to his pops though,

502
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 3>Like if you go back in and watch some of

503
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 3>the task stuff from E CW, like he was the

504
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 3>human soup box machine, Like that's his that's his move set.

505
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, he wasn't in there huge.

506
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>He was so thick it made sense.

507
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's that's part of the I think

508
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.000
<v Speaker 3>you're onto something, Alex, Like i'd like to see Hook integrate,

509
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>especially since he's paired with Shabbata, Like get in some

510
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 3>more of that shoot style stuff, Like you know, he

511
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 3>can do the kicks, He's got a really good physique.

512
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 3>He's he's a he's a smaller guy, but that and

513
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 3>aw doesn't that's not a detriment. You can you can

514
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.079
<v Speaker 3>work a style that makes it believable, Like I go

515
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 3>back to his match against Joe, totally believable, like he

516
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 3>was giving Everybody knew Joe was going to win, but

517
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>we believed this little guy was going to die trying.

518
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>And he had a good move set against Joe. He

519
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 3>had a good strategy, like he can work big matches

520
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 3>against big opponents in a fun style. They built to

521
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>that one supplex he got onto. Everybody went crazy. But

522
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 3>I agree, Alex, there's there's a little more dimension they

523
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 3>need to add into him. I don't know why they're

524
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of keeping him hidden a little bit. I like

525
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.480
<v Speaker 3>that he's talking more, but I feel like they've just

526
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>not reached his potential, which seems to be a reoccurring

527
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 3>theory or not theory, a reoccurring theme with a lot

528
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 3>of AW midcar.

529
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Performers with with Hook's boosa, you know where they should

530
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>put him to use him to his best ability, start them,

531
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>because that's Hook Russell. Like every single starter wrestler does

532
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the suplex German Suplex.

533
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Everyone bridging, bridging German Suplex and it's beautiful.

534
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well the bridging wan. Not everybody does the bridging,

535
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>but everybody does the German Suplex. They throw each other

536
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 1>over the over their shoulders like crazy and start them.

537
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Hook would have been in really well there and again

538
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to see Hook versus Hazuki. That's it. That's my.

539
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one Franta j Man.

540
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Hooks Hook's excursion to start on.

541
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I don't think you're too off. I'd like to

542
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 3>see Hook do a tour in Japan for six weeks,

543
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>have him out there, haven't like best of the super

544
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Juniors or something like. I'd love to see him in

545
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 3>some of the AW guys do the best of the

546
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:29.480
<v Speaker 3>super Juniors.

547
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be cool.

548
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think with Russell Dynasty coming up on January

549
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>fifth in the Tokyo Dome, I think we're going to

550
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of AW guys and a lot of

551
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>AW women doing some really surprising things. And I think

552
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really good for a W because

553
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I believe that this card is going to be The

554
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 1>word I would use is humbling to AW. I think

555
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that they are going to get out wrestled, and they

556
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>need to get out wrestled the young kids, not the

557
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>not the established veterans, but they need to get these

558
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.079
<v Speaker 1>young kids out there and can't have them out wrestled.

559
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, no, hey, I can't be complacent. I

560
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 1>got to get out there and work. So Alex, go ahead,

561
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, and net No, I was.

562
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 8>Just I was just agreeing. I was just thinking, yeah,

563
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 8>that's a really good idea. I like that idea.

564
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>That's all okay, Well Alex what well?

565
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking about Wressell Dynasty CMLL and New Japan or

566
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Partners with AEW And there was also Maple Leaf Pro

567
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Wrestling had their first show in Windsor. So it's Scott

568
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>de Moore's new company. He's I guess bought the rights

569
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 2>to the Maple Leaf Pro heritage and yeah, so they

570
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>had their first show. They had Takeshta doing dual main events.

571
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 2>He was in Yeah, he fought Mike Bailey the first

572
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 2>the second night he fought Josh Alexander, and then after

573
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the match, Takesha was beating down Josh Alexander after defending

574
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>the International title, and then Ricochet showed up. So they're

575
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of continuing a W storylines in MLP and it

576
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 2>will be interesting to see.

577
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Isn't you know? Furthering that isn't Don Kallis on commentary?

578
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 3>It was He was good too.

579
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>He was a relationship with Scott de Moray. Scott Demury

580
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 2>was like the leader of t NA. When they had

581
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Omegas the champion and Christian Cage.

582
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 8>Who else?

583
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Who else was there? I mean, I know I saw

584
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Harley Cameron was there?

585
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.079
<v Speaker 3>Was there?

586
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Q T Marshall?

587
00:32:55.319 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Marshall the who was the Stu Grayson? I know he's

588
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 3>not with a W anymore, but he was on the

589
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>show too. Yeah forgetting somebody else.

590
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe it'll come to us.

591
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They had other new japan guys like LP who

592
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 2>is part of you know, a bunch of a W

593
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>shows as well.

594
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Were there any c M people there?

595
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. There's a guy named El riverso

596
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>but I think he they American luchador yeah too.

597
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't there Who's the Who's the new japan performer that

598
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 3>does the back to the future gimmick with Martin.

599
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>M uh yeah, just the.

600
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

601
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was on the show too that was about

602
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to have.

603
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a six man. It was a

604
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of fun. Anybody else get the show because I

605
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>got the pay per views and launched them. Anybody else

606
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 3>almost did.

607
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 2>But then I was like Collisions three and I want

608
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 2>to watch the House of Black.

609
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Thirty bucks Man. It was a fun show. It was

610
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 3>a fun show, So.

611
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I grew n go ahead both nice.

612
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I enjoyed it. So I grew up. I grew

613
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 3>up in Detroit, So when I was a kid, I

614
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 3>actually watched the original Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling on TV

615
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>because in Detroit would get a bunch of the stations

616
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 3>from Windsor, Ontario, and that's where the pro went out

617
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.440
<v Speaker 3>of And if any of you guys know, the Detroit

618
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 3>territory back in the day for NWA was really big too,

619
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 3>So like my relatives and stuff, loved it. And then

620
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I tuned in right as like there in the early

621
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 3>to mid eighties, right as their relationship with WWE was

622
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 3>ending and then they folded not too long afterwards, so

623
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 3>it was interesting to see the Moore.

624
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Pick that up.

625
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 3>And the thing that I enjoyed the most was I

626
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 3>felt like Maple Leaf Crow is what they should be

627
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 3>doing with Ring of Honor the whole time I'm watching

628
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.840
<v Speaker 3>this going this should be ring them and.

629
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>If the I let me stop you there, Berry, why

630
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 1>do you say that?

631
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>So them trying to shoehorn Ring of Honor into the

632
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 3>tapings of dynamite and collision, it doesn't allow them to

633
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 3>really focus on it as a developmental territory. And regardless

634
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of the talent they send, their Ring of Honor at

635
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.639
<v Speaker 3>this point would be the equivalent of NXT for aw

636
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 3>and stop running them in arenas, get them in a

637
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 3>studio show. I watched the Maple Leaf throw Card and

638
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this would be perfect. They had about a

639
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 3>thousand people in there. It wasn't a studio they used.

640
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 3>There was a I don't remember the college in Ontario

641
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 3>where they filmed it at, but it was a very

642
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 3>intimate setting. Would have been perfect. You can bring in

643
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 3>some main roster people to spice it up, just like

644
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 3>WWE does with NXT. But I thought the production was

645
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 3>really simple, but it was effective. They had a couple

646
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 3>cameras on the floor, they had a hard cam. They

647
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 3>didn't need to go over the top. You didn't have

648
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>to deal with this huge empty arena when you've only

649
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 3>got five hundred people there for the Ring of Honor

650
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 3>tapings before hand. And I just kept thinking, like, this

651
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 3>should be how they do Ring of Honor. Yeah, and

652
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>it felt like it felt like a step up from

653
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 3>a regular indie show because of the talent they had,

654
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's really what they should look at

655
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to do for a Ring of Honor.

656
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 4>I agree, m M.

657
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I loved the shows. I thought they were a blast.

658
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 3>The main events both nights were just they were great.

659
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of other really good There's some

660
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 3>of the stuff felt very indie, but more than half

661
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.320
<v Speaker 3>of each night felt like any other paper view you'd watched,

662
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and it was. It was a great time.

663
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 8>If you haven't seen the Tequesta Mike Bailey match on there,

664
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 8>bind it and watch it.

665
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh good, it's so good.

666
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 8>That's one of the best I have seen. Yeah, watch

667
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 8>that match.

668
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So I'll check it out.

669
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Takashka put on a clinic both nights, like

670
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>that kid he's just so good.

671
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad he has that been y Kay, let

672
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question directly. So, we saw this

673
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 1>with Maple Leaf Pro and obviously AW had several wrestlers

674
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 1>and personalities at the show. And frankly MLP needs it

675
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have a established roster right now, I

676
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>mean not one that at least would be known. So

677
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 1>having that partnership with possible partnership with AW, do you

678
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>think that this should continue with AW sending some of

679
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>their roster guys to MLP.

680
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I can honestly help. I mean, we

681
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 5>have to do something that trained some of these guys up.

682
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 5>It's good working with Dmore because look, he's he's a

683
00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 5>great guy to work with.

684
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 4>He's been with TEENA for a long time. He knows

685
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>how to build up, build up people.

686
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Better than I think Tony does. And I really wish

687
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 5>Tony would sign this guy, but I think, but I

688
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 5>don't know if Tony's.

689
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Ego will do it or not. Uh, they need.

690
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 5>To send people like Action Andretti over there to actually

691
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 5>get a personality and uh, you know people.

692
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 4>Like that who need the boost. Heck, I see Hook over.

693
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 5>There or somebody just to just to get them exposure

694
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 5>and learn how to work outside of a.

695
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>W learn and learn how to work, not saying that

696
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't know how to work, but you can always

697
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 1>learn a bit more.

698
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

699
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would venture to say that even better than wrestlers,

700
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the more they wrestle, the more they learned.

701
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh yeah, mm hmm.

702
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

703
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't like MLP.

704
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

705
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't see it ever being like CMLL or New Japan,

706
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>like those are huge companies. But you know, Rev Pro

707
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>in England has had a great relationship with AW. They've

708
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 2>had the wrestlers show up there and it's great for

709
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Rev Pro, it's great for the fans. It makes that

710
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>company better and it's just cool and fun and good

711
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 2>buzz for AW to to have guys showing up in

712
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 2>different places than they show it on social media.

713
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

714
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 2>I think there's no there's nothing bad that can come

715
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>from it. You're not going to lose your guys to MLP.

716
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 2>It's just good for the wrestling business. And even WWE

717
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 2>is doing it more because of AW their relationship with

718
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>TNA and they're sending guys to Japan. It's just healthy

719
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>for the wrestling business as a whole You hit the

720
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>nail on that, Alex.

721
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Alex is somebody from Toronto. Yeah, do you think that

722
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>sending AW wrestlers to MLP will actually result in get

723
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 1>more viewers for AW?

724
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say. I I could see that being

725
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the case if they're running a lot of shows locally

726
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 2>and people who just want to go to a wrestling

727
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>show are going there and they're seeing AW people and

728
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>it brings interest, you know. I kind of see it

729
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 2>going more the other direction, where it's it's going to

730
00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 2>get AW fans to buy MLP tickets and watch their shows.

731
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>But there's no reason it doesn't help AW at the

732
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>same time, like like because of this relationship. Yeah, like

733
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Barry bought the show. Like how many how many non

734
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>AW companies goes to you by Barry.

735
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 3>More than I should? The problem Like, like I love wrestling,

736
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I do. I love it. I've been to an indie

737
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 3>show here at a Highlight arena in Orlando where I

738
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 3>saw I won't go into it, but like, I love

739
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 3>indie wrestling, and Alex you said something it's good for

740
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:15.320
<v Speaker 3>the business. And when you mentioned WWE, like the Stars

741
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 3>of Tomorrow they come from promotions like DeFi promotions like

742
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 3>GCW promotions like Progress, as much as WWE wants their

743
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 3>farm system to only develop talent through NXT. When Vince

744
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 3>was there, Hunter realizes that they're not going to capture everybody.

745
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 3>You're going to miss people, and having those relationships with

746
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 3>other promotions grabs those people. And to your point, you

747
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 3>look at like, I think Drew McIntyre is a prime

748
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.599
<v Speaker 3>example of this, and I know this is an AW podcast,

749
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 3>but like they let Drew go, Well what did you do?

750
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 3>He went to work the indies. Well, without indies like

751
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Progress and others out there, there isn't a place for

752
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.199
<v Speaker 3>him to turn into the Drew McIntyre that then return

753
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 3>to WWE, you know, And I think that's important. You

754
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 3>need these other outlets out out there. You need to

755
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>help support them. You know, aw's got a good relationship

756
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.320
<v Speaker 3>with the Five. They send people to Japan, They've got

757
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>people down at CMML, I mean the CMO in New

758
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Japan obviously are huge promotions. But yeah, this is where

759
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>that talent from the MARW comes from. And you never

760
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>know who you're going to hit on some hot indie

761
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 3>talent that you're like, you know what, I got a

762
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.159
<v Speaker 3>program for this guy and I can push this this

763
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 3>man or this woman to the moon. We'll pair him

764
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 3>up with X person three month, three month program and boom,

765
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 3>we got a new superstar.

766
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>You know.

767
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because before AW, there were so many

768
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>more guys out there, and AW took a lot of

769
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 2>them off the indiec and right away, and like even

770
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 2>like Nick Wayne, you know, he didn't end up to

771
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 2>even have a chance to be the indie darling guy

772
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 2>for a while because as soon as he turned eighteen

773
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and he's already signed an AW. Yeah, it's really like that.

774
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.320
<v Speaker 2>That is the lifeblood of AW. Is indie wrestling always starts.

775
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 3>As a good example too, Alex the same thing there,

776
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 3>they signed her and she was still right out of

777
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>high school, you know.

778
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Billy Starks was doing a lot of indie

779
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 1>stuff where somebody like Nick Wayne and no, he was, Hey,

780
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>look at like Anna. A good example of this is

781
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Anna j Yeah, he was, she was. She did that.

782
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she ever did an in D.

783
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Match with Julia Hart.

784
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a handful. Julia Hart did a handful of matches

785
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>before a w A couple of them were interjective matches,

786
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.599
<v Speaker 1>but she did some matchups like Anna Ja see her

787
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>first match was in a Ever was in a W.

788
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I think Harley's first match was in a W two

789
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, Okay, I'm sorry.

790
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 4>I thought Anna was in was in n x T for.

791
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>A little bit. No, M no, I don't know.

792
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>And Harley Cameron has She's looking better and better every match.

793
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny, man, She's like, I'm really high. Yeah,

794
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm really high on her just in general because of

795
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 3>the charisma she has. And I think we've seen this

796
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>with other performers that you can compensate for a mediocre

797
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:20.159
<v Speaker 3>or a slightly above average move set or talent in

798
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.239
<v Speaker 3>the ring with ridiculous charisma and timing. And like, if

799
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.800
<v Speaker 3>there's one thing she has, it's timing. You put her

800
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 3>in a segment. She knows where to hit the punchlines,

801
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 3>she knows the reactions, like the stuff she did with

802
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Bully Ray at Maple Leaf Pro that then paid off

803
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 3>in their match when she did the what's up? And

804
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.679
<v Speaker 3>actually that may fell into his crops. Like, I don't

805
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 3>know if there's another female wrestler on the AW roster

806
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 3>who could have pulled that comedic bit off, but not

807
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 3>only did she pull it off. She pulled it off lawlessly.

808
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 3>She's absurdly talented, so charismatic, she has superstar written all

809
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.320
<v Speaker 3>over it. If they do it right, and that's my worry.

810
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't, and then she goes somewhere else and becomes

811
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 3>a superstar.

812
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 5>You know.

813
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that can very well happen. But something tells

814
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>me that she is very happy with AW because she

815
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.559
<v Speaker 1>is all over social media hype it up AW. If

816
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>if every wrestler did with what Harley Cameron does and

817
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>hyping up aw AW be the most annoying promotion on

818
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the planet by far, that'd be like, I can't go

819
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 1>on social media a where it's all aw. Well, let's

820
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>move on because we've actually kind of started getting into it.

821
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go do our pot Prix section now. And

822
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 1>what pot Pourrie is is that we will all have

823
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to talk about whatever we want to bring up,

824
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a topic such as the rise of Harley Cameron. So

825
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>who wants to go first? Who has an idea of

826
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>what they want to talk about? If nobody wants to

827
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.800
<v Speaker 1>go first, I have something that I can talk about,

828
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Well for it, all right, Well I will go for it.

829
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Something interesting that I saw the other day actually posted

830
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 1>it on the AW fan hub subreddit, is that it

831
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 1>has now been over two months since Tony Storm has

832
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 1>been victorious in a singles match. She's wrestled in CMLL,

833
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 1>she's wrestled in Stardom, she's wrestled in AW and she's

834
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 1>not want to say she's won in in a tag

835
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 1>team competition, but she's not won a singles competition in

836
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>over two months. She lost the World Championship in England

837
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 1>to mariahm A. She lost it in Mayuebatani in Japan.

838
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 1>She just lost to La Catalina in Mexico. So not

839
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 1>only is she on a losing streak, she's losing all

840
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 1>over the world. And she after her most recent loss

841
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico to La Catalina, she said, where do I

842
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 1>go now? And then she just walked off into the

843
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, black and white. I guess she's going to

844
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>come back to AW obviously, but what do we think?

845
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean? I don't know, is Tony Storm's absence helped

846
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Tony Storm helped Mariah may Or? Is all the shit

847
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna hit the fan when she comes back?

848
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I got an idea, so putting the fantasy booking had

849
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 3>on for a second here Tony. Tony needs a bit

850
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 3>of a change for her character. The All about Eve

851
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 3>story has reached its peak and Mariah is done, and

852
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 3>so that movie's done. And if she's going to stick

853
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 3>with the timeless gimmick and as an homage to the

854
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 3>nineteen forties and fifties golden era of Hollywood, I think

855
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 3>her pivot, especially after all these leaving is this losing,

856
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 3>is to come back hair dyed black with a femme

857
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 3>fatale type of approach because she's lost. So she's got

858
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to find herself and she's got to dig deep and

859
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 3>get a little darker because her little comedy shtick it's

860
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 3>not working. She lost to Mariah. She's lost three times

861
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 3>internationally now and to see her come back, she's going

862
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 3>to get a huge pop when she returns. I think

863
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.760
<v Speaker 3>it's good she's spin off TV because it lets Mariah

864
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>shine a little bit and get a couple couple wins.

865
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's waiting for Tony to come back. But when she

866
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 3>comes back, she needs that. She needs that character change

867
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 3>to be effective. And I think pivoting a little away

868
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 3>from some of the getting inspiration from some other aspects

869
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 3>of classic Hollywood is the way to go.

870
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me ask you a question without getting

871
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 1>into a big dialogue about it. All about Eve is over?

872
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 1>What's her next starring role? What movie is she going

873
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to emulate next?

874
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a tough one. I don't think they do.

875
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they do like an homage to a

876
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.480
<v Speaker 3>movie though. I think she just takes inspiration from other characters.

877
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, it was pretty damn obvious she

878
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was doing all about Eve. Everybody knew she was doing

879
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.559
<v Speaker 1>all about Eve. That whole story was all about I

880
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of like to see her come back and do

881
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>mommy dearest, just start poking people with Hanny too.

882
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I go.

883
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>There, you go?

884
00:49:58.119 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh my god?

885
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Who has a polt purri that they want to talk about?

886
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 3>They could do Double Indemnity too, that would be a

887
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 3>good one. But I mean we're gonna get into Malti's falcon.

888
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of

889
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 3>different stuff they can pull from. Pulzman always rings twice,

890
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 3>just a ton of stuff.

891
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

892
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh, all right, So let's get off this topic. Who

893
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 1>has a pot pourri that they want to talk about?

894
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 4>So I want to get props to r J City.

895
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:29.119
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

896
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I just read that he is helping along this. Uh.

897
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 5>I guess their new name is Death Writers, I guess now.

898
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 5>And and he's really helping that story along. And what

899
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 5>they're doing with the promos, they're they're hints, They're awesome.

900
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 5>I love what he did with Mariah May and Tony

901
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 5>Storm and his hey w things are on point every week.

902
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:57.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you picked him up because didn't know who

903
00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 5>he was. That he used to be an old wrestler,

904
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 5>I guess. And now he's went in a comedy bit

905
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:03.840
<v Speaker 5>and I love it everything about him.

906
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I love. Let me interrupt you because you lost me.

907
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Who are death Writers?

908
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 4>That's the new group, that's right.

909
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they obviously are not doing a great job of

910
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>it because I run a podcast here.

911
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they used it once. Yeah, they used

912
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it once on Collision. I think Collision.

913
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, but yeah, he's.

914
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but it's but he's doing great and Mosley dropped

915
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 5>as really.

916
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Drew me in with these brother what he's going to do.

917
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if he's actually it's something behind

918
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 5>it or not. I don't know, but I'm loving it

919
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 5>and loving what he's doing and he and we're getting attention.

920
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 5>I've seen all positive things in all the separators.

921
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let me ask you a specific question, MKA,

922
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 1>since you brought it up the death writers John Moxley,

923
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you're impressed by what's going on with our Ja City

924
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 1>and John Moxley whatever, Are you going to feel the

925
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>same way when we're still doing the same thing six

926
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 1>months from now?

927
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:27.400
<v Speaker 4>That's it depends out booked h I hope that doesn't.

928
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 5>The nWo style and last forever and everybody in the

929
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.320
<v Speaker 5>world was joining, you know, we don't. We don't need

930
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.920
<v Speaker 5>hooking there, we don't need everybody in there. But I

931
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 5>mutually where it goes, and I hope it ends with

932
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 5>Darby you know around I don't. I don't know, give

933
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 5>it at least six months. For three or four months,

934
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm good, but I don't. I don't want to see

935
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:50.119
<v Speaker 5>a year long with this.

936
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Well. My thing is is that my fear with this

937
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 1>whole John Moxley BCC thing is that based on past

938
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 1>looking from Tony Kahan, six months from now and we're

939
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna head into forbidden door and we're gonna be like,

940
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>what did this start? You know? That's a good thing

941
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>about RJ City and what he did with Mariah May

942
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and Tony Storm and Mina Shirakawa kept it moving along.

943
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 1>But if this is a RJ City thing, I have

944
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>faith in it. If it's a Tony Khan thing, we

945
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 1>may get Miirer in the mud. Like the elite are

946
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm sorry, but they are. They've not done

947
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>anything they agree with me or not.

948
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I have no issues with the elite. I

949
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 2>think they just stopped doing anything because of the death

950
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Rider's story that they were just like, ah, this is

951
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 2>more interesting. But I mean they still seem like they

952
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 2>might have a role to play because they it felt

953
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>like they were almost hinting at them maybe joining forces

954
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 2>against the death Riders at some point. Maybe not Jack Perry, but.

955
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 3>So Alex, Yeah, something was interesting on the last show

956
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 3>because like one of the things that Adow gets a

957
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 3>lot of great poor and I think rightfully so is

958
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.199
<v Speaker 3>just how some of the reactions to stuff is just

959
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 3>not realistic, Like they're not going to authority. There's ridiculous

960
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:27.559
<v Speaker 3>things going on. Nobody's doing anything. So here we have

961
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 3>John Moxley coming out to like kill people, right, and

962
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 3>in real life you would go to your executives and

963
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 3>be like, what do you How can you let this happen?

964
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 3>And that's what we saw backstage. They want to the

965
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 3>elite and they're like, you guys are EVPs, Like do something,

966
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and they were complete cowards and like you could see

967
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 3>some fear and that to me gives me some hope

968
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 3>that they're gonna start doing something with the elite now,

969
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 3>because like in real life, that's what would happen. You

970
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 3>would expect your executives to put a stop to a

971
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.440
<v Speaker 3>rogue employee like this. Yeah, yeah, I just tried to

972
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 3>kill somebody for crying out lout, go ahead.

973
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's just interesting to have the elite involved, Like

974
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 2>whatever they do, however they react. It's just interesting to

975
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:21.440
<v Speaker 2>show different groups of characters reacting to these big things.

976
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

977
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And it gives makes the elite more interesting rather than

978
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>them just doing their own thing in a in a

979
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 2>pocket universe that's not involved with other big things happening

980
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:39.519
<v Speaker 2>in aw And I really think that like Okata could

981
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 2>be a big baby face and probably the young Bucks

982
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 2>could turn as well. I think Jack Perry's too far gone, but.

983
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Jack Perry's a sweet kid exactly now that Broma.

984
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.360
<v Speaker 4>With the birthday gig.

985
00:55:54.400 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Well it's a good cap.

986
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 1>That was a pretty cake.

987
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:08.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, too bad they gruned it with their crankiness.

988
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I prefer pie. Anybody else have a potpourri?

989
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about the to go ahead?

990
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 8>Oh sorry, well I have one. My potpourri is that

991
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:29.280
<v Speaker 8>I'm having trouble keeping up with everything that is going

992
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 8>on in aw There seemed to be a lot of

993
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 8>uh stories left unfinished, and like we were talking a

994
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 8>little while ago about the whole thing with Hook and

995
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 8>the video footage, it takes too long to explain what's

996
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.519
<v Speaker 8>going on, and by the time they explain it, everyone

997
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 8>has lost interest or injured or they're yeah, or they're injured.

998
00:56:58.360 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, it's the.

999
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.199
<v Speaker 8>Same with with Chris Jericho. There's there's a lot of

1000
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:05.239
<v Speaker 8>potential with Chris Jericho.

1001
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 6>He's gonna be what is he on the number nine now?

1002
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:14.320
<v Speaker 8>That has a whole lot of momentum behind it if

1003
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 8>they want the momentum there. And it's just kind of like, Okay,

1004
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.159
<v Speaker 8>I guess that's the thing now. And like we were

1005
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 8>just saying, the young Bucks not doing anything, what are

1006
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 8>they going to do? By the time they do anything,

1007
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 8>we'll have forgotten that anything needed.

1008
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 6>To be done.

1009
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:38.159
<v Speaker 8>Uh, every two seconds, they're hinting at Kenny Omega coming back,

1010
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 8>but he's never back. They got Christopher Daniels to be

1011
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 8>Tony Kahan's voice, and he's jumping out backstage or running

1012
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 8>to the ring after everything has already happened. So it

1013
00:57:56.280 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 8>just it seems very separate, like nothing is fitting together,

1014
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:09.519
<v Speaker 8>nothing is finishing. They're not finishing these stories, and it's

1015
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:14.000
<v Speaker 8>getting hard for me to pay attention. So I don't

1016
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.360
<v Speaker 8>I can't be the only one who feels that way,

1017
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:19.880
<v Speaker 8>And I wish they would kind of tie up some

1018
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:25.519
<v Speaker 8>loose ends and finish some people's stories and keep the

1019
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 8>momentum going behind the people that really do have issues

1020
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 8>with one another so to speak, really get that going

1021
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 8>and you.

1022
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 6>Know, let's see the finish line. So that's that's my take.

1023
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.960
<v Speaker 3>No, can I ask you a question about your perspective

1024
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 3>on this?

1025
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

1026
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.519
<v Speaker 3>So one of the things that I felt that AW

1027
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is really bad at its pivoting And I don't remember

1028
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.559
<v Speaker 3>who just a second ago mentioned injuries, but that's going

1029
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to key problem with their stories, and it's something WWE

1030
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 3>excels at is when they've got a story if somebody

1031
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.079
<v Speaker 3>gets hurt or injury, they can pivot off of it

1032
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 3>and they keep things moving. What would you like to

1033
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:10.559
<v Speaker 3>see in instances where an injury does hurt a storyline?

1034
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.519
<v Speaker 3>So case in point, I think that the good case

1035
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 3>study for this is MJF and Adam Cole, Like, I

1036
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 3>don't care about tying this up. They got hurt, It

1037
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 3>totally derailed the storyline. Just move on, but they're coming

1038
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.400
<v Speaker 3>back through it. And Tony seems to do that a lot,

1039
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 3>like he has an idea what he wants to do.

1040
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Somebody gets hurt, and he just puts another back burner

1041
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and then comes back when they're ready and picks it

1042
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 3>back up. And that doesn't work anymore, you know, Like

1043
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:33.440
<v Speaker 3>you said, it's six months ago, I don't care anymore.

1044
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 3>So what would you like to see? Like, what do

1045
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you what would get those juices going for you and

1046
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 3>make it easier for you to watch.

1047
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 8>One of the big things that would make it easier

1048
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 8>for me to watch, honestly, is And I know it's

1049
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.559
<v Speaker 8>been a long time and it's long term storytelling, but

1050
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 8>I still feel that Hangman's story is not finished. With

1051
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 8>the bucks or are esteemed EVPs I don't think Kenny

1052
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 8>Omega's story is finished. And if you don't finish them,

1053
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:18.719
<v Speaker 8>they're always there in the background haunting. Those two stick

1054
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 8>out because they started way at the beginning of a

1055
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 8>w Hangman dabbles back and forth with the Dark Order,

1056
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 8>and it's like, finish something there and get those out

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01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.639
<v Speaker 8>of the way so we can start doing something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And but no, like Barry was saying, if you can't

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01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 1>finish it, you can't finish Kenny Omega story with the

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01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>EVPs because Kenny Omega's injured.

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01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 8>VOT, then stop talking about Kenny every week exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because what's happening is that Tony Kahan is

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01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 1>waiting for Kenny Omega to come back in order to

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01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.440
<v Speaker 1>do something with the with the Elite. That's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's coming back soon because they haven't mentioned

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01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 2>him by name until.

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<v Speaker 8>Recently, like media with them dropping hints about him. They've

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01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 8>said little things here and there about Kenny Omega, and

1069
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 8>I've picked up on so they they are sneaky and

1070
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.039
<v Speaker 8>mentioning him here and there, and and he's doing it

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01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 8>right back, so you know it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's true, that was Kenny.

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01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:48.320
<v Speaker 8>Then a bush's on on talking about how he's he's

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01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.679
<v Speaker 8>you know, he's ready to come back any moment, you know,

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01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:52.400
<v Speaker 8>and and.

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01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 6>Just knock it off.

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01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 8>Either come back or don't come back. You don't see

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01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:01.039
<v Speaker 8>any Kingston every day talking about how he's coming back,

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01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 8>so you know, and if anybody's angry, it's Eddie Kingston.

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01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:15.239
<v Speaker 8>So and we all know Kelson wants him to come back,

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01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 8>most of them all.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm interested to see you, Kenny. You know, honestly

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01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 1>with with Eddie Kingston, who couldn't wrestle for ship to

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01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 1>begin with. Now that he's been out with injuries, and

1085
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's gonna be even shitt the wrestler if

1086
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it's possible. I mean, the guy has he's again, He's

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01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:40.199
<v Speaker 1>great on Mike. Absolutely the worst wrestler in a w

1088
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.360
<v Speaker 1>by far. Nobody will do you really think he's the

1089
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 1>worst by far? I will put it this way. I

1090
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 1>can't think of a woman on the woman's division who

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01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:52.360
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to beat Eddie Kingston.

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01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 3>You think a better wrestler than Eddie Kingston.

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01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd let me say this again, there is nobody on

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01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the aw roster who is as poor as a wrestler

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01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:14.039
<v Speaker 1>as Eddie Kingston period. That's my opinion. You can name

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01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Sir Petico, John Cruise, Tykante, whoever you want.

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01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.639
<v Speaker 3>I said, I said, Eddie Kingston is if a guy

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01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:25.679
<v Speaker 3>at an indie show sat in the front row and

1099
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 3>said this isn't so tough, I could do that, and

1100
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:29.760
<v Speaker 3>then the wrestler invited him in there, and he did it,

1101
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and that's what he does from that point going.

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01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Forward, when Eddie comes back, it's going to be a.

1103
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Huge It's going to get a huge pot man, so Calson.

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I have a soft spot for Eddie because I'm a

1105
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 3>huge fan of nineties All Japan and then early two

1106
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 3>thousands pro wrestling Noah, which I also know, as you

1107
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 3>guys know from the Discord. I pop in a lot

1108
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 3>of classic wrestling stuff from that era, and I know

1109
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.920
<v Speaker 3>all of the spots that he's doing and what wrestler

1110
01:03:57.920 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 3>he's doing, so I have an appreciation for him. But

1111
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I can also understand why some people watching them are like,

1112
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 3>this guy does nothing for me.

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01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I mean people always say that he's

1114
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>an indie guy, that he's doing homages to all these

1115
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 1>indie wrestlers. I, however, am a fan of wrestling and

1116
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 1>eddie indie wrestlers.

1117
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeahs are the biggest start in Japan for twenty years.

1118
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Man Cordy, anybody from Dow, Japan is an indie wrestler.

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01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 4>He's a machine gun.

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01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Much I'm sorry, Yeah, I don't even bring up the

1121
01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:43.920
<v Speaker 1>machine gun chops. Okay almost. I threw up a little.

1122
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Someone did the machine gun chops recently and they looked

1123
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty good.

1124
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 1>They're not that bad when they're done right. But Eddie

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01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.880
<v Speaker 1>kicks and beats the crap out of himself. He doesn't

1126
01:04:53.880 --> 01:05:03.360
<v Speaker 1>even hit the guy that he's.

1127
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Hit the chest.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I feel that one video that

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01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 1>they keep showing of Eddie Kingston giving the machine gun

1130
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.960
<v Speaker 1>chops to Claudio casting Noli and Claudio is sitting there

1131
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 1>for like it seems like seven or eight minutes. I

1132
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 1>know it's only about twenty seconds, but it seemed like forever,

1133
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:21.639
<v Speaker 1>and he's trying to sell it's the dumbest looking move ever.

1134
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:22.679
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1135
01:05:22.800 --> 01:05:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston reminds me of Abdula, the bitch of Bitcher

1136
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the Butchers complains a lot fucking look a little long. Everybody,

1137
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a potpourri? Uh? Or do you want to

1138
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.320
<v Speaker 1>just call it a night until.

1139
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<v Speaker 2>I got one thing to say. I'm just very excited

1140
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 2>for House of Black to be on Dynamite and I

1141
01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.119
<v Speaker 2>hope they're doing something with them, you know.

1142
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:57.880
<v Speaker 3>So I got porpor to did you guys? One of

1143
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the things that I felt this week was Yna might

1144
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 3>float into Collision really really well. For the first time

1145
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:09.280
<v Speaker 3>that I can remember. It felt felt like an A show,

1146
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 3>like right off Battle of the Belts. I know the

1147
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:14.000
<v Speaker 3>ratings were crappy whatever. I thought that that hour was fine,

1148
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 3>but Collisions felt like an A show for the first time.

1149
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 3>And I thought the flow from Dynamite into Collision was

1150
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.880
<v Speaker 3>really good. And I'm hoping that that flow continues because

1151
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.440
<v Speaker 3>that's what they need if people are going to start

1152
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 3>watching Collision again on a regular basis.

1153
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.000
<v Speaker 2>No disagree. It felt like they had more story things

1154
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:37.119
<v Speaker 2>going on, and then House the Black was on, and

1155
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 2>then they're like, House the Black is going to be

1156
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.440
<v Speaker 2>on Dynamite as well, So give you that reason to

1157
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.360
<v Speaker 2>keep watching the next episode.

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01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.360
<v Speaker 1>So, Calvin, why do you disagree the outrunners were on it?

1159
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 3>But I think some of it is they're just different,

1160
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, like they're they're nostalgia is fun, but it

1161
01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 3>has a short shelf life. So that's why, like, if

1162
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna, if you're gonna strap the Outrunners up, especially

1163
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.559
<v Speaker 3>if this is their gonna make long term, and I

1164
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:10.719
<v Speaker 3>have no reason to believe it's it's not going to be.

1165
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 3>You got to take advantage of it while it's there

1166
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 3>so that you can then use that to get somebody

1167
01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 3>else over, whether that's not slight or get the belts

1168
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:23.360
<v Speaker 3>back on FTR or whatever is going to be short. Yeah,

1169
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be to take advantage of.

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01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Will Fully admit that I may be speaking out of

1171
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:33.119
<v Speaker 1>my ass a little bit because for the last three

1172
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:36.519
<v Speaker 1>months I haven't watched the Outrunners. As soon as they

1173
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.480
<v Speaker 1>music hits or whatever, I change the channel. So you know,

1174
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it's as simple as that. They may be godly now

1175
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I don't care, but I don't know.

1176
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.440
<v Speaker 3>They're fine in the ring. I mean, I don't think

1177
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 3>there's anything. They're very charismatic, they got a fun vibe,

1178
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:56.519
<v Speaker 3>and like I said, it's it's a gimmick that I

1179
01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 3>think will eventually tire out, much like the plane pass,

1180
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.119
<v Speaker 3>and they need to be refreshed. But if you're gonna

1181
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 3>if You're gonna strap them and take advantage of it.

1182
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:06.920
<v Speaker 3>You got to strike by the iron top.

1183
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to stop the show right here because

1184
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you are running really long and I'm getting We will

1185
01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow right after Dynamite for all the talk,

1186
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.359
<v Speaker 1>so join us then. Everybody's welcome to join us on

1187
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the Wrestling Up Discord. The link will be in the

1188
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 1>description of this podcast, so be sure to read the description.

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01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 1>You will see the link in the Wrestling Up Discord.

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01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Join us, come into the audience and chat with us

1191
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.960
<v Speaker 1>as we're talking, and give us some ideas and what

1192
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:47.399
<v Speaker 1>have your thoughts on AW Dynamite tomorrow night, So see

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01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you then for the AW fanhob podcast Team Missus Kelson,

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01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Alex good night, everybody. Good night,