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Speaker 3: I think we're at twenty four days until Louisville football
Speaker 3: kicks off the twenty twenty four season. Obviously there'll be
Speaker 3: some football before that, but it's getting closer and closer, folks.
Speaker 3: Another sign that we're getting closer and closer to football
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Speaker 3: State Fair honestly, from August fifteenth till August twenty fifth
Speaker 3: every day and be entertained and not be bored, because
Speaker 3: that's just there's just something about the State Fair is
Speaker 3: that is amazing. But anyways, we hope to have an
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Speaker 3: all right. So I guess we have to start with
Speaker 3: something that is in fact a big story I think
Speaker 3: kind of a big deal maybe, and that is that
Speaker 3: the coach who just won the most recent now national
Speaker 3: championship in college football, who doesn't coach in college football
Speaker 3: anymore and never will, he's been hammered by the nc
Speaker 3: double A kind of. So the NCAA announced earlier today
Speaker 3: that they've given Jim Harball a four year show cause
Speaker 3: order that also includes a one season suspension if he
Speaker 3: ever decides to come back and coach in college That
Speaker 3: is from the ncublea's Committee on Infractions that was handed
Speaker 3: down earlier today. So a lot of people without you know,
Speaker 3: if you're not plugged into this Michigan scandal stuff closely,
Speaker 3: if you know, you just know that they had some
Speaker 3: shady stuff going on with some signs stealing, some real
Speaker 3: next level college athletics espionage, you would just assume, well, okay,
Speaker 3: well that's that's that's what that's for. They finally they
Speaker 3: finally dropped the hammer on hardball for Connor. Stallion's the
Speaker 3: sign stealer and the elaborate planning and funding that went
Speaker 3: into cheating that worked. It helped him, But no, that
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with this. This punishment from ns
Speaker 3: DOUAA is due to COVID nineteen dead period recruiting violations.
Speaker 3: I mean that was four years ago.
Speaker 4: That's how long ago.
Speaker 3: That was this four years ago, and I mean he
Speaker 3: got a four year ban because he gave a couple
Speaker 3: of free meals to some recruits just a few months
Speaker 3: before it was legal to actually have the players receive
Speaker 3: millions of dollars through NIL, which we all know is
Speaker 3: not for nil, but it's just the disguise used to
Speaker 3: pay for players. So you know, this is a big story,
Speaker 3: that's but it's it's so silly because Hardball's never coming
Speaker 3: back to college again. And I don't even think this
Speaker 3: punishment is the reason he's never coming back to college again.
Speaker 4: He did what he wanted to do. He brought a.
Speaker 3: Champion ship to Michigan. He's a Michigan man. Didn't get
Speaker 3: off to a great start. But I believe that when
Speaker 3: Harpball took the job at Michigan again, that was a
Speaker 3: long time ago. Let me pull it up here, because
Speaker 3: I feel I mean, was it was that ten years ago?
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it could be a little
Speaker 3: bit longer than that. Maybe I'm just crazy here, but yeah,
Speaker 3: his first season at Michigan was in let's see here,
Speaker 3: it was in goodness, gracious, he's got a long Wikipedia
Speaker 3: page year. His first season at Michigan was in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: so nine years ago.
Speaker 4: That was when he got there.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking to myself at the time, man
Speaker 3: like this guy like, I can't remember there being a
Speaker 3: higher made where expectations were so high. And it's because
Speaker 3: it's Stanford, you know, they He was great there. I mean,
Speaker 3: he gave Stanford some life in football when Andrew luck
Speaker 3: was there, of course, and then he goes to the NFL.
Speaker 3: Does a great job with the Niners. They end up
Speaker 3: making it to making it to the Super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 3: he took it's a guy's name, who didn't Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 3: to Colin Kaepernick to the freaking Super Bowl. Soations were high,
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, because everybody was underwhelmed that, like, man,
Speaker 3: you know that just same thing with Iowa that we
Speaker 3: mentioned every now and then, right John, Like because everybody
Speaker 3: just makes fun of Io anytime Iowa was being talked
Speaker 3: about when it comes to college football in recent years,
Speaker 3: it's just them getting completely clowned for how pathetic their
Speaker 3: offense is kept me from realizing they actually went a lot,
Speaker 3: They win a lot of football games. So because Michigan
Speaker 3: never got past Ohio State in the first what eight
Speaker 3: years that Harball was there, and they never really broke
Speaker 3: through and made a playoff that everyone the Big ten, like,
Speaker 3: it made me realize that like it made me think
Speaker 3: that they were actually really struggling, when in fact they
Speaker 3: weren't elite like they want to be, but they were
Speaker 3: far better than they were before Harball. I mean he
Speaker 3: went ten and three, ten and three, eight and five,
Speaker 3: ten and three, nine and four, those were his first
Speaker 3: that was his first five seasons. Obviously during the COVID
Speaker 3: year they were terrible, but so were a lot of teams.
Speaker 3: And then in twenty twenty one, twelve and two thirteen
Speaker 3: and one in twenty twenty two, and then of course
Speaker 3: last year they went I mean, they went undefeated, won
Speaker 3: the national championship. So you know, he did what he
Speaker 3: wanted to do, and now he's back in the NFL,
Speaker 3: where he probably will reside until he doesn't want to
Speaker 3: coach anymore. So the punishment is is it is it's
Speaker 3: certainly a newsworthy trusts me, but like this is this
Speaker 3: just is another example of the n C Double A
Speaker 3: being so out of touch and delusional. And we talked
Speaker 3: yesterday a great links about how irrelevant the organization that
Speaker 3: is the NCE double A now appears to be.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'd love to be a fly on the wall when
Speaker 3: they decide to, you know, to and I'm not This
Speaker 3: is not a defensive harrorball, right, this is not. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of silly that the recruiting violations
Speaker 3: thing like to me, that to me, that sounds almost
Speaker 3: like like here, here's what I predict they're doing their
Speaker 3: investigation on the sign sealing stuff, but they're not gonna
Speaker 3: have a lot of cooperation from anybody. Therefore, they're not
Speaker 3: going to be able to really do anything. So I
Speaker 3: just assume that this heavy handed punishment from the NC
Speaker 3: double A in regards to the recruiting violations during COVID.
Speaker 3: You know that that that that's why the punishment is
Speaker 3: so severe. But they they know deep down, like they're
Speaker 3: they can't do anything, right. I mean, like suspending Jim
Speaker 3: Harball from coaching in college football right now when he's
Speaker 3: got an eighty million dollar contract with the Chargers is
Speaker 3: like suspending me from dating Margot Robbie. It's just, you know,
Speaker 3: it's useless. I mean, it would never happen, right, It's
Speaker 3: just it's it's it's nonsense. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: we're gonna get anything from the sound stealing stuff and all.
Speaker 3: And it also has me even more so curious about
Speaker 3: what Connor Stallions is going to say in this documentary
Speaker 3: that comes out in the next few weeks, because if
Speaker 3: he does, in fact, you know, open up and really
Speaker 3: tell all, I mean, I guess they could use that
Speaker 3: as evidence, But.
Speaker 4: What are they going to give him me Are they
Speaker 4: going to give him?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 3: Right? Now, you're suspended five seasons if you want to
Speaker 3: come back, I mean, like he'd never come back.
Speaker 4: It's just silly.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure Michigan fans are probably thinking to themselves like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, this is best case scenario, unless, of course,
Speaker 3: you know, they're still holding out and fearing that they're
Speaker 3: going to get hammered from the Connor stallion stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: It seems as if the NAA wanted to really drop
Speaker 3: the hammer and maybe maybe we're mid people.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're still here.
Speaker 3: We're still here, and we're not afraid to really hold
Speaker 3: somebody accountable. We're not afraid to really let everybody know that,
Speaker 3: despite the perception about this organization that is the NCAA,
Speaker 3: we still rule college athletics and we will hold those
Speaker 3: accountable who don't follow A guidelines and bylaws. But yet, like,
Speaker 3: what a swing and amiss because again, they're so out
Speaker 3: of touch and delusional if they really think that that's
Speaker 3: the message that was conveyed with their decision today. So
Speaker 3: I mean, there you have it. I think that's the
Speaker 3: biggest story in college football right now. For obvious reasons,
Speaker 3: but like it's just it seems worthless. It really does,
Speaker 3: because you know, he's he hasn't even coached a game
Speaker 3: yet at in the NFL with this new team, the Chargers.
Speaker 3: So I mean, it'd be different if you kept your
Speaker 3: findings to yourself and you knew that he was trying
Speaker 3: to get back in the game and then you put
Speaker 3: it out there. But like it just to me, I
Speaker 3: feel like they thought they were really doing something here
Speaker 3: and in the end, they just end up doing what
Speaker 3: they always do, which is make a complete fool of
Speaker 3: themselves and show the lack of awareness and then they're
Speaker 3: just delusion. And they've, if anything, they've been consistent about
Speaker 3: everything as far as you know, the perception they've they've
Speaker 3: they've not been consistent about certain punishments and things like that.
Speaker 3: They kind of just you know, they've actually been really
Speaker 3: inconsistent when it comes to that kind of stuff. However,
Speaker 3: as far as just you know, hey, this is what
Speaker 3: we're doing and these even regardless of how archaic it is,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not gonna you know, we're not gonna
Speaker 3: let these athletes make any money.
Speaker 4: There's twodent athletes and again it.
Speaker 3: They're just delusional, and we talked a lot about some
Speaker 3: of the examples of that yesterday. So there you have it,
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Speaker 3: I was trying to dig this up because the attorney
Speaker 3: for Harball has released a statement and it looks like
Speaker 3: it was created in Microsoft paint. But I guess he
Speaker 3: was trying to be cute. See here with a light
Speaker 3: blue like a teal background with bright yellow letters, because
Speaker 3: that's the color of you know, his new team that
Speaker 3: is the is the Chargers and not the you know
Speaker 3: just anyways, and by the way, this lawyer has been
Speaker 3: pretty outspoken about the n S DOUAA for quite some time.
Speaker 3: He's been defending Harball throughout you know, these n C
Speaker 3: DOUBLEA allegations, and he's, you know, he's a lawyer that
Speaker 3: doesn't just fight in court with you know, the law
Speaker 3: and good arguments and all that kind of stuff whatever
Speaker 3: legal jargon that I'm blanking on. He also does it
Speaker 3: on Twitter, which I feel like can't this doesn't benefit anybody,
Speaker 3: but it does. It does entertain me at times when
Speaker 3: you see this happen. But this is a statement in
Speaker 3: regards to the NC Doublea's the NAA Committee on Infractions decision.
Speaker 3: The way I see it from Coach Harball's perspective, Today's
Speaker 3: Committee on Infractions decision is like being in college and
Speaker 3: getting a letter from your high school saying you've been
Speaker 3: suspended because you didn't sign the yearbook. If I were
Speaker 3: in Coach Harball's shoes and had an eighty million dollar
Speaker 3: contract as the head coach of the Chargers, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: pay any attention to the findings of a kangaroo court
Speaker 3: which claims to be to represent the principles of the
Speaker 3: nation's most flagrant, repeat violator of the federal antitrust laws.
Speaker 3: See again, I don't know if today's decision like does
Speaker 3: anything in regards to the future.
Speaker 4: Of the NC Double A. I mean, I don't mean
Speaker 4: I doubt it does.
Speaker 3: But it's just another pr hit for an organization that, again,
Speaker 3: I feel like, has seemingly been questioned as far as
Speaker 3: their existence, like what served like what purpose do they
Speaker 3: really serve? In high level college athletics? That's been something
Speaker 3: that's been growing, I feel like for well over a decade,
Speaker 3: but in the last like five years it's been it's
Speaker 3: been speeding up in a major major rate as far
Speaker 3: as just like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 4: Why do we need them? Get them out of the way.
Speaker 3: We all know this is pro sports now, well, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll assign a commissioner of college basketball and college football.
Speaker 3: It'll be somebody that the collective institutions vote on and
Speaker 3: approved to be the leader. That person decides punishment, that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. They build a team like, we don't
Speaker 3: need the NCAA. And again, I say that talking about
Speaker 3: the highest level that is quite clearly and very much
Speaker 3: blatantly in your face, high dollar, billion dollar business of
Speaker 3: professional sports. It's in college I mean it is, but
Speaker 3: it's not, you know what I mean. So here's the
Speaker 3: exact here's the exact wording from the COI Harball quote,
Speaker 3: violated recruiting and inducement rules, engaging in an unethical conduct,
Speaker 3: failed to promoted atmosphere of compliance, and violated head coach
Speaker 3: responsibility obligations. And there's more that I think I'm trying
Speaker 3: to want to read through it because it would be
Speaker 3: boring and nobody really cares, and it just I feel
Speaker 3: like I've already wasted sixteen seventeen minutes of the show anyways,
Speaker 3: because this is such a stupid pun that just doesn't
Speaker 3: actually serve any purpose at all. But him and his
Speaker 3: attorney refusing to even like engage in any conversation with
Speaker 3: the Committee on Infractions about all this stuff is I
Speaker 3: believe another factor in why they decided to drop the hammer.
Speaker 3: But again, did you really do anything at all here?
Speaker 3: Because the guy's not going to be coaching in college
Speaker 3: and will have no interest in doing that. Do you
Speaker 3: think if he was still at Michigan they would have
Speaker 3: done this. That's a good question, because I don't think
Speaker 3: they would have. I know, I think that's probably what
Speaker 3: they would have done. They sort of stayed quiet.
Speaker 2: And here's the only thing where this maybe would bite
Speaker 2: Michigan in the butt in the future is if Sharon
Speaker 2: Moore just sucks as a head coach and they wish
Speaker 2: they had Jim Harball back. I think Sharon Moore will
Speaker 2: do fine, But that's the only scenario where I see
Speaker 2: the NCAA getting the win from a punishment like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like if Harball was still there,
Speaker 3: he clearly if you any any I mean, he would
Speaker 3: be cooperating with the NC double A because he would
Speaker 3: have to because Michigan would I mean, I think Michigan
Speaker 3: would have to make him and and whatnot, and maybe
Speaker 3: maybe that alone would lead to where he wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been hit with this this level of a punishment. However,
Speaker 3: I just believe that the NC double A thought they
Speaker 3: really did something big here and that like they had
Speaker 3: no clue that everybody would be mocking them, as if
Speaker 3: like you really like that, that's so silly you punish
Speaker 3: somebody who like, it's not really a punishment. That's not
Speaker 3: to say that like they should have just ignored it,
Speaker 3: But I don't know, like, if he's not interested in
Speaker 3: it's pretty common. I suppose, like, for example, nobody in
Speaker 3: the world was ever going to hire Andrew McGee, but
Speaker 3: he got a show.
Speaker 4: Cause right because of obvious things. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just to me, the severity.
Speaker 3: Of it was was was there because they wanted to
Speaker 3: make it look as if hey will still drop the hammer,
Speaker 3: don't let the perception out there about our organization and
Speaker 3: fool you about what's really going on. We will hold
Speaker 3: people accountable, but you didn't because the guy doesn't. He
Speaker 3: doesn't work for you, and he's work under your umbrella anymore,
Speaker 3: and he never will. And everybody knows that, and you
Speaker 3: know that too, So you're not fooling anybody, clowns.
Speaker 4: All right, we are loaded. The rest of the way,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 3: And I mean it when I say have some fun
Speaker 3: because I found something earlier today that really fascinated me
Speaker 3: when it comes to the Olympics, and it has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with any gold medals or anything like that.
Speaker 3: It is jobs at the Olympics that I did not
Speaker 3: know existed, which kind of cool to be honest with you. Also,
Speaker 3: we've got a good old fashioned Twitter feud going on
Speaker 3: here between Colorado's social media accounts Prime essentially and Arkansas,
Speaker 3: who I think is the winner right now, And I
Speaker 3: got to ask, well, ask John of course when we
Speaker 3: get to it, and you guys can chime in as well.
Speaker 3: It's not a big deal, but Colorado did something with
Speaker 3: some social media content that I think is like the
Speaker 3: lamest thing you could do.
Speaker 4: It's just corny. But then again, like, what did what did?
Speaker 4: What did Dan Lanning say?
Speaker 3: About him, like you know, they're the the these something
Speaker 3: about yeah yeah, and this game they're gonna be played
Speaker 3: in Hollywood or something like that. Like I mean, it's
Speaker 3: really not surprising because again we're talking about about Colorado,
Speaker 3: so we can get into that. And uh, also, you know,
Speaker 3: just just.
Speaker 4: Mix it up today. It's we're gonna do We're gonna
Speaker 4: have some fun.
Speaker 2: Is Arkansas's fan base do they just get into it
Speaker 2: with everybody? Because I know they kind of have the
Speaker 2: new rivalry with Kentucky and then you got this with Colorado.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, Arkansas's fan base, uh is a lot larger
Speaker 3: than I think most people realized until Like Kentucky fans,
Speaker 3: I've always known Arkansas has a big fan base, but
Speaker 3: you you really saw a lot of them whenever Kentucky
Speaker 3: Cali Perry left Kentucky to got Arkansas, because then it
Speaker 3: became like, you know, a war between Big Blue Nation
Speaker 3: and hog Nation. And I think Kentucky fans were a
Speaker 3: little surprised at like how many they are and how
Speaker 3: ruthless they are, Like they're diehard fans, they live in Arkansas.
Speaker 4: What else do they have to do?
Speaker 3: They love their razorbacks, But this is actually from the
Speaker 3: official Arkansas Twitter account, not not their fans.
Speaker 4: So yeah, anyways, let's get to a quick break. We'll
Speaker 4: come back.
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Speaker 3: Some tough news coming out of the NFL for a
Speaker 3: former well he's from the area, played at Trinity High School,
Speaker 3: but actually from New Albany. I believe Rondel Moore also
Speaker 3: played for Jeff Brohm at Perdue. It sounds like he
Speaker 3: had what is believed to be a pretty serious injury
Speaker 3: today at the Falcons practice. So he has been taken
Speaker 3: to a hospital there in Atlanta with an air cast
Speaker 3: on his right leg. They ended up canceling the practice
Speaker 3: after the injury took place, and sounds like the whole
Speaker 3: team was huddled up praying for him. So it sounds
Speaker 3: to me pretty serious, which is which is tough, I
Speaker 3: mean for anybody. But you know, he's coming up on
Speaker 3: a big year. I mean, he's timing is not if
Speaker 3: this ends up being a serious injury that keeps him
Speaker 3: out for significant time, maybe the whole season. Timing is
Speaker 3: terrible because he's entering the final year of his rookie contract,
Speaker 3: and you know, if he's able to if he was
Speaker 3: able to be healthy and really shine with Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: there in Atlanta, that could that could give him, you
Speaker 3: know a chance of having a pretty big contract. But
Speaker 3: obviously with an injury here that would be would be
Speaker 3: tough to do if it keeps him out for a
Speaker 3: long time. So he'll always be remembered as as as
Speaker 3: at least for me as a guy that you know,
Speaker 3: got away a little bit right. So the story of
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore, he was at Trinity High School, was one
Speaker 3: of the many, many talented guys they had in whatever
Speaker 3: year he came out, I think it might have been
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen maybe, And Bobby Patrino and his staff
Speaker 3: they did recruit him, but they did not really make
Speaker 3: him priority, you know, they didn't.
Speaker 4: In fact, they had other guys at his position. I
Speaker 4: can't think of who it was.
Speaker 3: There was a receiver that they got that they really liked.
Speaker 3: Actually it might might have been might have been was
Speaker 3: it too too at well maybe I'm not sure. But
Speaker 3: they had another receiver that they really liked. But Rodnell
Speaker 3: Moore apparently just didn't feel as if like he was
Speaker 3: going to be prioritized, and you know, he just wasn't
Speaker 3: feeling as if he as if he was somebody that
Speaker 3: they really wanted, and and you know, maybe they didn't,
Speaker 3: but they did recruit him, it just wasn't to the
Speaker 3: level that other big schools were, like Texas. So he
Speaker 3: originally committed to Texas. I believe might have been when
Speaker 3: who was the coach there at the time. Wasn't Charlie Strong.
Speaker 3: I think it might have been the uh Tom Herman
Speaker 3: who was there briefly and but didn't want to didn't
Speaker 3: want to go that far away from home. He had
Speaker 3: a relationship with the Broms obviously because he played at
Speaker 3: Trinity and he was recruited by brom at Perdue ended
Speaker 3: up deciding to go to Purdue, and he was sensational
Speaker 3: that year that Jeff Brown really broke the root Purdue
Speaker 3: and they knocked off Urban Meyer in Ohio State and
Speaker 3: and blow out fashion. More was sort of their star player.
Speaker 3: And I remember being in Orlando for the Louisville Alabama
Speaker 3: game and it might have been one of the first
Speaker 3: games of the season, but Purdue and somebody played on
Speaker 3: a Thursday night. I'm not sure who it was, and
Speaker 3: Rondell Moore was a superstar first ever college game he played,
Speaker 3: and you know, the story always was, man, this kid's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 4: Why didn't we prioritize him?
Speaker 3: Why didn't Bobby make sure this kid didn't go anywhere
Speaker 3: other than Louisville? And you know, he ended up having
Speaker 3: a a great season. Bobby had an awful season, won
Speaker 3: two games, and was fired before the season ended. And
Speaker 3: then Rondel Moore of course came back for another season
Speaker 3: at Purdue, and I think he had some injury issues,
Speaker 3: didn't finish like the last eight games or whatnot, and
Speaker 3: then gets drafted and has not really had a huge
Speaker 3: impact since being in the league. But talent is certainly
Speaker 3: not a problem for him. So hopefully this injury is
Speaker 3: not too severe, but it certainly does not sound good
Speaker 3: at this point. All right, it's coffee and company. We
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Speaker 4: Lance.
Speaker 5: How are you hey, Nick? How you doing today?
Speaker 4: Not too bad?
Speaker 5: Well? And just on the the Jim Harball stuff, Uh
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, it's it's no big secret. Everybody
Speaker 5: knows Michigan cheated beginning to end last season to win
Speaker 5: that title, and that title should be taken away. And
Speaker 5: it looks like the NCOA is gonna get scared and
Speaker 5: not do it. But with the punishment that Louisville got
Speaker 5: in basketball a few years ago and now the punishment
Speaker 5: with Kentucky, which both of those punishments were far worse
Speaker 5: than what Michigan got with the four year show calls
Speaker 5: on h with Jim Harball, Like this is the moment
Speaker 5: that the twoses need to come together and have the
Speaker 5: state Attorney General file lawsuit against the nc double A
Speaker 5: and Mitch Barnhart because he's part of it, foul lawsuit
Speaker 5: against them to get those wins back, and especially I
Speaker 5: mean Kentucky. It's not a big deal, it's not going
Speaker 5: to affect it. But the stuff with Louisville back in
Speaker 5: thirteen and with fourteen or fifteen, I would definitely be
Speaker 5: pushing for a lawsuit. If they're gonna let North Carolina
Speaker 5: have thirteen hundred people take fake classes and then protect
Speaker 5: them because the acc half the people that run the
Speaker 5: NC doulway come out of the acc or if they're
Speaker 5: going to protect Jim Harball, then why don't we file
Speaker 5: lawsuit against them to get the wins back to appeal
Speaker 5: the decisions they made.
Speaker 4: Lance, I appreciate the phone call, brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be clear that the punishment that was
Speaker 3: handed out today is just for Jim Harball, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, unless I'm missing something, it's just
Speaker 3: for him specifically, and that's a good thing for Michigan. Now,
Speaker 3: if they end up, you know, getting in trouble with
Speaker 3: the science stealing stuff, that'll be something that I would
Speaker 3: assume that they as a program get hit with. But
Speaker 3: that's you know, they haven't even actually gotten a notice
Speaker 3: of allegations for that just yet. There was just a
Speaker 3: diraft that was put together that one of the reporters
Speaker 3: for ESPN got a hold of. But you know, with
Speaker 3: the lawsuit stuff, you know, I think the University of Louisville.
Speaker 3: I believe that they feel is if they waited out
Speaker 3: and continue to not have any other further issues with
Speaker 3: compliance and rules being broken and all that, as well
Speaker 3: as the landscape of college sports changing so much to
Speaker 3: where like guys are clearly getting paid now, the schools
Speaker 3: are going to be paying these players themselves moving forward.
Speaker 4: So I think they hope that just with.
Speaker 3: Due time, wins will be reinstated, They'll be able to
Speaker 3: hold up their banner once again, and everything will be okay.
Speaker 3: Like I think they believe that. However, the lawsuit that
Speaker 3: was filed, if this has been some it's been some
Speaker 3: time since this happened, but if you remember, Louisville had
Speaker 3: a few players from that team in twenty thirteen that
Speaker 3: sued and won against the NC DOUBLEA to an extent.
Speaker 3: So it was Luke Hancock, Gorgy Jang, Stephen Venturies, Tim Henderson,
Speaker 3: and Mike Mara who agreed to a settlement with the
Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA in a lawsuit that of course centered around
Speaker 3: them vacating the twenty thirteen title. So U of L
Speaker 3: at that time did not join them in legal action,
Speaker 3: which I can't speak for any of those guys. But
Speaker 3: I do know that at least a couple of them,
Speaker 3: and I don't think they've been super shy about it.
Speaker 3: That really bothered them that the school didn't sort of
Speaker 3: join forces with them to say, hey, look, this isn't
Speaker 3: right what you're doing. We're going to take legal action.
Speaker 3: But in order for the national title to no longer
Speaker 3: be vacanted through a lawsuit, Luke Hancock and his crew,
Speaker 3: those guys, they can't file that lawsuit. The university has
Speaker 3: to do that. They chose not to file any legal action.
Speaker 3: They complied with the NC double A. I mean they
Speaker 3: disassociated guys who didn't cooperate. I mean they at that
Speaker 3: point made it quite I mean again Louisville, I mean
Speaker 3: they they cooperated and thought it was going to help
Speaker 3: him out and it didn't at all at all when
Speaker 3: it comes to the punishment that was handed out from
Speaker 3: the Minoriti Hall stuff. And then after the fact they
Speaker 3: still and again I'm not saying they were wrong for
Speaker 3: doing that. I mean, I think you have to be
Speaker 3: pretty brazen to just decide, okay, we cooperated it it
Speaker 3: didn't help. Now it's double birds to the NC double A.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do whatever we want and sue you if
Speaker 3: you try to. If you try to, you know, hold
Speaker 3: us accountable for anything.
Speaker 4: So you know, I.
Speaker 3: For any any wins to be reinstated for schools and whatnot,
Speaker 3: and you know, titles, the school would have to do that,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure, and they just they have and they
Speaker 3: haven't chose to do that. And when it comes to
Speaker 3: the Kentucky situation where they had, I mean I think
Speaker 3: that they I mean, I don't know, I'd be just
Speaker 3: making stuff up to say they got off light and
Speaker 3: they avoided an even more severe penalty than having an
Speaker 3: entire season vacated. But you know, it was something they
Speaker 3: agreed to with the n C DOUAA as far as
Speaker 3: you know, here's what we're going to do so which
Speaker 3: we'll get into that a little bit later on, because
Speaker 3: you know, I became pretty numb to scandals being a
Speaker 3: part of the conversation with shows like this that I host.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been doing this for gosh, almost ten
Speaker 3: years now, and unfortunately, for you know, a decent chunk
Speaker 3: of that time, there's been scandals either breaking that we
Speaker 3: have to talk about, or there's been a an extremely
Speaker 3: long period of time while we wait to figure out
Speaker 3: what the punishment is for said scandal.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 3: Been, it's just been, it's just been kind of a mess.
Speaker 3: So again, I don't know what the norm is elsewhere,
Speaker 3: but like it is wild to me. And you're starting
Speaker 3: to see some more coverageure locally from those in you
Speaker 3: know that work for the local news stations kind of
Speaker 3: asking like, hey, that's a pretty big deal in regards
Speaker 3: to what happened with Kentucky last week. Losing an entire season,
Speaker 3: one of the best seasons in school history, and not
Speaker 3: a peep from their athletic director or their football coach.
Speaker 4: Like that's a little odd.
Speaker 3: So maybe they're staying quiet because you know, they don't
Speaker 3: agree with it, and they feel like maybe they would
Speaker 3: they would say something that they later regret.
Speaker 4: But who's I mean again, like what do I know.
Speaker 3: I'm not somebody that works within college athletics, but I
Speaker 3: just get the I get the sense right now that
Speaker 3: nobody really has the fear of the NCAA and their
Speaker 3: punishment like they did years ago, because in recent years
Speaker 3: when they've tried, I mean, if you remember the Tennessee
Speaker 3: situation right where they got in trouble and they got
Speaker 3: hit with some notice about NIL violations in Virginia and
Speaker 3: in Florida State, like they just hired a lot lawsuit.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think Florida State actually fell on the
Speaker 3: sword and just decided to cooperate. But had they filed
Speaker 3: a lawsuit like Tennessee, did you know, it probably would
Speaker 3: have beat the NCAA in court. Because all the NUAA
Speaker 3: is doing when it comes to legal process right now
Speaker 3: is taking fat ls.
Speaker 4: That's all they're doing. All right. Uh, let's see here.
Speaker 3: I was gonna go to the text line, and we've
Speaker 3: got some good text coming in, but if I if
Speaker 3: I dive in, I feel like it's going to mess
Speaker 3: up the clock management, which I got.
Speaker 4: To to my own horn a little bit.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 4: It's our it's off to a decent start today.
Speaker 2: I think you've been doing good all week.
Speaker 4: So far with the clock management.
Speaker 3: Happy to hear that, you know, it's always good to
Speaker 3: hear that encouragement as I try to fix the uh.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I probably have a lot of
Speaker 3: issues as an on air host, but one of that
Speaker 3: that's probably the one that's just been the uh, the
Speaker 3: one that's lingered the longest, is I just never can
Speaker 3: can balance the clock very well.
Speaker 2: But we've gotten better at knowing it's the clock management.
Speaker 2: You gotta makeure you get there, Ellen there. Yeah, don't
Speaker 2: leave it.
Speaker 3: Very true, very true. But one of the first texts
Speaker 3: that came in earlier today that you know, I'm just
Speaker 3: I'm I'm visualizing the scenario they've presented that you know,
Speaker 3: I I don't know the answer who would win in
Speaker 3: a tag team matchup if the tag teams were Mark
Speaker 3: Pope and Mark Stoops versus Pat Kelsey and Jeff Bron.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've got to start off with
Speaker 2: what would their tag team like name be.
Speaker 4: It's a good question, let's get creative.
Speaker 2: Mark Squared is pretty lame, but that's for some reason
Speaker 2: what popped in my head for Mark and Mark or
Speaker 2: maybe you can just call it Marky.
Speaker 3: Mark Ye and the like Marky Mark something Marky Mark right,
Speaker 3: because they're both Marks.
Speaker 4: But what like it would just be.
Speaker 3: Clearly one of them is nearly seven feet tall, so
Speaker 3: like and I don't know how tall. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean. Let's be honest, I don't find like
Speaker 3: as much as I'm sure these guys would, you know,
Speaker 3: what would beat me up because I'm not a fighter.
Speaker 4: Trust me.
Speaker 3: This isn't like I'm challenging anybody to a fight. But
Speaker 3: despite him being a giant, I actually feel like Mark
Speaker 3: Stoops would be more of a physical threat than Mark
Speaker 3: Pope just because of you know what, I what I
Speaker 3: sense from personality. And again I've not watched Mark Pope
Speaker 3: coach a whole lot, but he just seems like a
Speaker 3: pretty like he doesn't seem like a super high energy
Speaker 3: intensity in your face. You know, I'll body slam you
Speaker 3: kind of guy.
Speaker 2: He brings cookies to the press.
Speaker 4: Comp Yeah, I'd say everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's well said John. All right, quick break,
Speaker 3: we'll come back on the other side. Maybe we'll figure
Speaker 3: out what these tag team duos would be named. Look,
Speaker 3: I mean Jeff Brahm and Pat Kelsey. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think they're kind of psycho They're kind of psychopathic when
Speaker 3: it comes to like battle and competition. So I'm clearly
Speaker 3: taking those guys. All right, stick around coffee and company.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the text line five
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Speaker 3: I hate to hear that about Rondell Moore, but have
Speaker 3: you heard if there's any truth to Jeff Brohm wanting
Speaker 3: to utilize Colin Lacy the same way he did more
Speaker 3: at Purdue. I haven't heard anything as far as you know,
Speaker 3: like Jeff Brohm telling people that's what he's going to do.
Speaker 3: But yes, people have made some comparisons there because Colin
Speaker 3: Lacey's a guy who really I mean, his numbers last
Speaker 3: year at South Alabama were really impressive. I'm gonna pull
Speaker 3: him up here just so I make sure I have
Speaker 3: him have the right numbers here. But yeah, he Let's
Speaker 3: see last year at at South Alabama he had one
Speaker 3: and sixteen yards seven touchdowns averaged. Let's see, this doesn't
Speaker 3: show his average, but yeah, I mean he's a guy.
Speaker 3: Yards after catch is certainly something he excels with. And
Speaker 3: the same thing with Rondel Moore. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: try to tell you that Colin Lacy's going to be
Speaker 3: the next Rondel Moore. But as far as just a shifty,
Speaker 3: smaller receiver five ten, two hundred pounds, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I could absolutely see him being a similar type of weapon.
Speaker 4: But as far as you know.
Speaker 3: Having that type of upside and overall talent that you know,
Speaker 3: I just I think they'd be putting a lot on
Speaker 3: Colin Lacy, who's transferring in from South Alabama. That's not
Speaker 3: to say that because he's from South Alabama you shouldn't
Speaker 3: be excited and you know, and that you you should
Speaker 3: expect him to take a huge step back. I mean,
Speaker 3: the reality is, we don't know for sure, but Rondill
Speaker 3: Moore is a guy who, I mean, at times he
Speaker 3: was one of the most explosive and you know, talented
Speaker 3: players in college football. I mean, he was pretty damn
Speaker 3: good at Purdue prior to injuries. And he was also
Speaker 3: a guy who ended up being taken in the second
Speaker 3: round of the NFL Draft. So I'm not gonna say
Speaker 3: that he's going to be calling the Colin Lacey's going
Speaker 3: to be Rondell Moore for Louisville this year. But I
Speaker 3: certainly could see why folks would say, hey, that's the
Speaker 3: kind of piece as far as just the way he's
Speaker 3: going to be utilized, just because the similarities. In fact,
Speaker 3: Colin Lacey's a little bit bigger than Rondel Moore is
Speaker 3: and of all the transfers that Louisville has landed. I mean, again,
Speaker 3: maybe this is part of me just doing what I do.
Speaker 3: As we get closer to the season, I'm getting more
Speaker 3: and more eager and you know, excited and trying to
Speaker 3: trying to manufacture some disrespect out there about Louisville even
Speaker 3: when it doesn't exist. But you know, Louisville's transfer portal class,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of noise during during his post
Speaker 3: spring about the guys leaving that Louisville's checks were bouncing,
Speaker 3: and I think it might have created or might have
Speaker 3: just made people assume that they lost dudes that were
Speaker 3: so good that there's no way Louisville's transfer class can
Speaker 3: really make that big of an impact. They still have
Speaker 3: some dudes that are talented. Lacey's one of them. But
Speaker 3: you know Jacry Brooks at Alabama, I mean, that's a
Speaker 3: guy who last year, you know, was not super productive.
Speaker 4: But it's because he was injured.
Speaker 3: I mean, he missed a ton of time last year
Speaker 3: with an injury, and that is why he was not
Speaker 3: as impactful for Alabama last year.
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you know, life.
Speaker 3: Was a little bit easier for Jacory Brooks when he
Speaker 3: was catching passes from Bryce Young and not Jalen Milroe,
Speaker 3: who was, you know, a guy who a lot of
Speaker 3: people debated it was he even good enough to be
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback at Alabama. So, you know, I I
Speaker 3: think Jacory Brooks and Colin Lacy, along with Chris Bell,
Speaker 3: who I hope has a real big breakthrough season this year,
Speaker 3: like I think Louisville could have some pretty damn good receivers.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: Not to say people aren't talking about that or that
Speaker 3: it's being ignored, but you know, I still look at
Speaker 3: the portal class that was brought in this year and
Speaker 3: it's I mean, it's it's better than last year's portal
Speaker 3: class that made a huge impact. And that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's knowing that he brought in Grinda, who ended up
Speaker 3: being a great addition, but he wasn't even looked at
Speaker 3: as somebody that was supposed to he just really never know.
Speaker 3: But Grida wasn't wasn't hyped as a guy that was
Speaker 3: going to come in and really be such a big
Speaker 3: difference maker for for Bram. But he did, you know,
Speaker 3: him and him and Jordan together, they were they were
Speaker 3: since and then I mean Plumber. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: think there was any buzz about Plumber. And to be clear,
Speaker 3: he didn't light the world on fire, but he was
Speaker 3: good enough to where you could have him as your
Speaker 3: starting quarterback and you could put together a pretty special season.
Speaker 3: So yeah, answer your question. I hope we see some
Speaker 3: flashes of of the way Rondell Moore was used at
Speaker 3: Perdue just and I hope we see that with Colin
Speaker 3: Lacey here, just like Jeff used Rondell back at Purdue.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's been that long since he played
Speaker 3: it Purdue. Where's time gone? It's crazy, all right. So
Speaker 3: we've got some people sharing their thoughts on the potential
Speaker 3: tag team matchup if it was Mark Stoops and Mark
Speaker 3: Pope taking on Jeff Brahm and Pat Kelsey. And this
Speaker 3: is not a topic I thought of. This isn't content
Speaker 3: that I can claim I came up with. It's just
Speaker 3: somebody on the text line, which I'll give him credit.
Speaker 3: Like it's got me thinking, we'll never know. It's a
Speaker 3: silly hypothetical, But isn't that what radio is in August
Speaker 3: around here?
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: Silly hypotheticals. A lot of people in the text line
Speaker 3: that are Kentucky fans are making making reference to Pat
Speaker 3: Kelsey's stature because you know, he's not a very tall guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, you ever heard of Raymisterio.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, sweep the legs, Mark Pope don't stand
Speaker 2: a chance like Jeff Brom.
Speaker 4: I mean that's a guy. I mean, Jeff Brom's not
Speaker 4: a small guy.
Speaker 3: I mean Jeff Brom six ' one two fifteen probably
Speaker 3: guessing like he played, and he's an NFL quarterback for
Speaker 3: crying out loud, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, like Jeff Brom. The XFL clip from many many.
Speaker 3: Years ago is viral for obvious reasons because it's he's
Speaker 3: one tough son of a bitch. So you know, I like,
Speaker 3: I like my chances and Pat Kelsey. He may not
Speaker 3: be big in stature. I don't know how tall he is,
Speaker 3: but you know he's he's feisty, he's wiry, he's intense.
Speaker 4: He might bite. He might bite your leg and.
Speaker 2: Stoops were just whine about not being paid enough to
Speaker 2: do the fight.
Speaker 3: Well done. Yeah, he might he might do that. He
Speaker 3: might just you know, he didn't know how much longer
Speaker 3: he done much more of this he can take.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, honestly, Brom could carry well. He could
Speaker 2: probably be both of them. And this is coming from
Speaker 2: Sony is not a Louisville dude.
Speaker 3: Jeff Brom isn't is in the heat of battle, I mean,
Speaker 3: he is as intense as anybody you'll find.
Speaker 4: I mean that doesn't mean I.
Speaker 3: Think he's a really good coach, but like take away
Speaker 3: like the fact that he's a pretty good coach that
Speaker 3: has that has that has proven to be a pretty
Speaker 3: a pretty consistent winner. But like I'm just talking about
Speaker 3: him in in you know, in the heat of it,
Speaker 3: like he's he's intense as can be.
Speaker 4: With with Pope, I.
Speaker 3: Don't really know a lot about Mark Pope, like other
Speaker 3: than he played at Kentucky and then was at Utah
Speaker 3: Valley b YU and now he's back at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Like he seems he wouldn't want to fight, He would
Speaker 2: just want to talk it out, Yes, And that's that.
Speaker 2: That's the dead honest truth.
Speaker 3: I feel like somebody on the text und said he's
Speaker 3: a male. Karen would just complain enough. I mean, I
Speaker 3: need something from Mark Pope to like give me some
Speaker 3: kind of energy towards him as the head coach of
Speaker 3: the rival program that I hate because I'm not saying
Speaker 3: I like him, but like, I can't really find anything
Speaker 3: about him that makes me say all that's somesh you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like Cal was the perfect villain
Speaker 3: for this rivalry, and so is Rick to be honest
Speaker 3: with you for them for obvious reasons. So I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure once Pope starts coaching games, instincts will just
Speaker 3: kick in, But honestly, I can't with Mark Stoops, Like
Speaker 3: I don't mean, he's the Kentucky coach, and I hope
Speaker 3: he loses every game and when they do struggle or
Speaker 3: he says something foolish like he has here lately about
Speaker 3: just not being able to do his job anymore despite
Speaker 3: making a gazillion dollars a year. It seems like I'll
Speaker 3: poke fun at him, but I don't really find him
Speaker 3: to be like unlikable.
Speaker 4: And he beats us a lot now and I don't
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: We'll come up with some good names for these tech
Speaker 3: team dues a little bit later on, among other things too.
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